1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Sport with the tab app download and get your bed 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: on our eighteen bit Responsibly. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: We have Elliott Smith's sports talk host with us. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Hello Elliott, Hello Heather. 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So Grace Weirkere has doubled down on her support 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: for Dame Noles, Has. 7 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: She she has? Yeah. I thought that maybe she might 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: have had a moment's regrets. Well, no she hasn't, because 9 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: she's been asked at the airport as they fly out 10 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: for the Constellation Cup first game on Friday, whether she 11 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: regretted this stand that she made postgame after the last 12 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: series against South Africa, where basically she backed Noline total 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: to the hilts and basically stood and said, if you're listening, 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: we love you, we miss you, we want you back 15 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: in charge of the team. She fronted media today and 16 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: was asked whether she stood by those words and basically said, yes, 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: I do so quite remarkable stuff. 18 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Let's have a listen. 19 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: I think if I had to do it over, I 20 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: would took my worries a bit more relatively. But but thing, 21 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: I do regret what I said, and I am confident 22 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 3: to feel strongly about my position but also fully back 23 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: the team and the girls there and the job to do. 24 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: So I wonder if what she would have said, with 25 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: which words she would have been more selective about, is 26 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: we love. 27 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: You, possibly more I want you back, or being more 28 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: about myself rather than speaking on behalf of the team. 29 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Her senior colleagues may not necessarily be aligned, and the 30 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: alignment so I back her. I think it's a good 31 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: stance to have. We want players to be speaking out. 32 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: This whole thing is an absolute shamozzle and it's you know, 33 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: it's not Grace Week's fault. It's not Anyone's fault that 34 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: it's got to this point. 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: So I think it's some people's fault. 36 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: Peo really badly handled by Its bad, but it's not 37 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: it's not great. It's not Grace Week's fault. It's got 38 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: to this point. And so her speaking out, I think 39 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: good on it. 40 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: Can I ask you something though, I was I was 41 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: having a chat to one of your your contemporaries out 42 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: there in the sports department, and Clay, who has you know, 43 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: is on the show from time to time and has 44 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: got some very clear mind about this and the conclusion 45 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: that I can't speak for him, but that I certainly 46 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: came to is there is a path back for Dame Knowles, 47 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: but Jenny Wiley's got to go. 48 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: Someone has got someone's got to go. I think there's 49 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: got to be someone that falls on their sword. And 50 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: whether it's ordered for Dame to exactly and it's And 51 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: if Dame Nolin Todd he's not going back with then 52 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: she's the one that goes. Yes, So I don't think 53 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: the status quo can remain. 54 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: But do you agree with me that she can come 55 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: back if Jenny. 56 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Goes potentially yes, but I think there needs to be 57 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: some change that happening, though pretty slim, also giving slimmer 58 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: as time goes on. If you are the consolation cut 59 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: this is the biggest series of the year, starting tomorrow Friday. 60 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: Night, Play the four D Chess. Here you are, Matt Winner, Ay, 61 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: you're the chair. You have to decide who is more 62 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: important to you. Is it Jenny Wiley the CEO, or 63 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: is it Dame Knowles who has the public support by 64 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: the looks of things, and as a legendary coach. 65 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: I think Nipple needs the public support. So this has 66 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: some Basically, their broadcast has been cut down in their prime. 67 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: The sport's clearly not being run that well at the moment. 68 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: So go with the part that is doing well, and 69 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: that is Dame No Loyd for a diamond doesn't That's right, 70 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: you can go fine, So chances still slim. 71 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make this thing happen. I don't know 72 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: that it can. All right, So if you go to 73 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: if you're a rugby league player and you go to 74 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: the Saudis, you're banned from playing rugby league for ten years. 75 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: This is just chumm in the last five minutes or so, 76 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: NRL saying that any player that goes to quote unquote 77 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: unrecognized football competitions, we know what those are, it's R 78 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: three sixty will be banned for ten years. That means 79 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: if you sign a player of a letter of intent, 80 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: a playing contract, or any other form of agreement with 81 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: R three sixty, you will not be welcomed in rugby 82 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: league for ten years. Wow. 83 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: Ten years from the point of signing or the point wow. 84 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: But if you're Ryan Pappenhausen, you're Roger T. E varsishit going, yeah, 85 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: might go to R three sixty for a couple of years, 86 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: then come back and play a bit of NRAL to 87 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: finish up my career. Your banned for ten years. That's 88 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: your career done. 89 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: Would you do that or would you actually end your 90 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: career at the. 91 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Well you quae Possibly would't, But if you're a player 92 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: in your prime as well going yeah, okay, I've got 93 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: AR three sixty for two years, then my options are open. 94 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: You can't go play rugby anymore, you can't go play 95 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: rugby league. They're closing the doors. 96 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: This all this is going to do is it's going 97 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: to drive up your contract with R three sixty and 98 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: linth in your contract right, So you're not going to 99 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: take a two year contract from the soudis. 100 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: Now you you're going to go I want five year contracts. 101 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're going to want a lot more money possible. 102 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 2: And they've got a lot of money. 103 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of money, but they're basically been 104 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: painted as a rebel league. No one wants to deal 105 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: with them, and they've got to get no engagement from 106 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: World Rugby. They've got nothing from NRL. So I don't 107 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: see how they can go forward now because they're just 108 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna be painted as a rebel competition. You need they're 109 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: pitched has been it can come play for R three sixty. 110 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: You can still play test rugby well, all those unions 111 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: have gone no, you can't. They've gone play for You 112 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: can still play for you know, the Kiwi's coress. 113 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: Although, isn't it, Elliott, because there will be a whole 114 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: lot of players who are at the tail end of 115 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: their career who will go, well, do I go to 116 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: Japan like I think Aaron Smith? 117 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: Right? 118 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: Do I go to Japan and get so many million? 119 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: Or do I go to the Saudis and ask for 120 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: three times as much? 121 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: It might well happen, but is that going to be 122 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: a viable competition over a long period of time. I 123 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I hope that that. 124 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: I would love to see this thing. 125 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: To see three sixty happen. 126 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: Why not? 127 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: Why what interest have you got in the Madrid Magicians 128 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: playing with three all blacks a couple of. 129 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: It's not like you do not want more sport. 130 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: I want the right sport here. I just want to I. 131 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: Want something to give world rugby a shakeup. 132 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: But no one watches. No one in New Zealand watches 133 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: the URC as it happens. No one watches the French 134 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: Top fourteen, No one watches japan Top League. We only 135 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: watch the NPC. We don't even barely watch Super Rugby, 136 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: so what is another rugby competition. I'm not saying we're 137 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: going to watch it, you just want to. I just 138 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: want world rugby to get a shakeup. Elliott, Thank you 139 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: very much. 140 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in a trouble making move today 141 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: Elliott Smith's sports stalk. 142 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Hoast For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live 143 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: to news talks. 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