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Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens

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Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your Property search simple,

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Speaker 2: At B it's goodbining to you. Congratulations, you made it.

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Speaker 2: It is Friday, at the end of the working week.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in the next sixty minutes. Well look, it's

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Speaker 2: all about resignations and sackings. This morning. In five minutes,

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Speaker 2: we talked to the head of politics at Otaga University

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Speaker 2: all about what Phil Goff got up to in London.

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Speaker 2: Before six we talked to an aviation expert about the

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Speaker 2: departure of Greg Fouran from Air New Zealand. We're going

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Speaker 2: to cross to Australia for the very latest on cyclone Alfred,

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Speaker 2: which has slowed down which might make it more powerful.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to say goodbye to Sheha. The Wellington

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Speaker 2: Metal Machine will have correspondence from right around New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and the world. Will have news as at breaks and

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Speaker 2: It's Dickens at Newstalks atb dot co dot and Z

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Speaker 2: it's seven after the agenda, so that's Friday, the seventh

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Speaker 2: of March, and we will start in Brussels. Ukraine's president

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Speaker 2: do I have to say his name, We all know

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Speaker 2: his name, President Zelenski. He's been at an emergency European

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Speaker 2: Union summit. He he arrived there just hours after a

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Speaker 2: Russian missile hit a hotel in his hometown Akiev.

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Speaker 3: During all this period and last week, you stay with us,

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Speaker 3: and of course from all the Ukrainians, from all our nations,

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Speaker 3: big appreciation, were very spiteful that we are not alone,

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Speaker 3: and these are not just words, we feel it.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, UK officials say around twenty countries are interested in

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Speaker 2: joining a coalition of the willing to help Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: Europe faces a clear and present danger, and therefore Europe

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Speaker 4: has to be able to protect itself, to defend itself,

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Speaker 4: as we have to put Ukraine in a position to

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we'll go to Gaza. Remember Gaza, how quickly it

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Speaker 2: got pushed off the front pages. But anyway, President Trump

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Speaker 2: has issued what he calls a final warning to Hamas

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Speaker 2: to release hostages being held in Gaza. He posted to

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Speaker 2: his social truth platform, and here's the quote, I am

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Speaker 2: sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job. Not

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Speaker 2: a single har Mass member will be safe if you

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Speaker 5: We've had Hamas coming out with a response, with officials

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Speaker 5: saying that these repeated threats from President Trump are encouraging

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Speaker 5: Israel to back out of the Gaza ceasefire deal, and

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Speaker 5: they reiterate that in order for these captives to be freed,

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Speaker 5: what is needed is for Israel to enter into the

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Speaker 2: And finally, parts of Australia are bracing for tropical Cyclone

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Speaker 2: Around four million people are in the firing line. Major

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Speaker 2: impact zones include the Gold Coast and the Sunshine Coast.

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Speaker 2: And here's the New South Wales premiere Chris Minds.

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Speaker 6: If they remain in the area, they become trapped. They

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Speaker 7: We're forecasting very.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about councils for a bit and

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Speaker 2: first to Wellington and the water this week. Earlier this week,

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Speaker 2: we spoke to the PLODA due Mayor Anita Baker, and

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Speaker 2: I asked her if the Wellington Water chair Nick Leggett,

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Speaker 2: financial incompetence. Now, she didn't think so. She said Nick

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Speaker 2: also asked for a refund for rate players from contractors. Well,

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Speaker 2: I could name the head of Water Compliance Wellington Water,

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Speaker 2: But obviously she wasn't looking at the compliance during her job.

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Speaker 2: Then there are all the counselors who've been part of

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Speaker 2: But you know that turkeys don't vote for Christmas. But look,

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Speaker 2: make no mistake. While the Wellington Water Committee feel there

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Speaker 2: does not need to be sackings, I think they'll find

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Speaker 2: the rape payers demand it because in this world it's

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Speaker 2: about actions and consequences, and if there are no consequences,

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Speaker 2: there are no lessons learned, Andrew Dickens. So it's twelve

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Speaker 2: after five and let's moved to Totonga. The great Todunger

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Speaker 2: Waterfront Playground battle has just flared up. This is a

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Speaker 2: playground that cost five million dollars. That's right, five million

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Speaker 2: dollars for some swings, slides, roundabouts. Now the taxpayer union

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Speaker 2: look at it and frankly, it's awesome. It's part of

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Speaker 2: Locals love it, tourists love it, downtown business people like

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Speaker 2: the buzz it's created. Apart from one grumpy old guy

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Speaker 2: twenty years time, the five million dollars will be nothing

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Speaker 2: and the playground will be part of a whole generations

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Speaker 2: money can't buy. And yes, it could have been cheaper,

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Speaker 2: so I'd ask construction firms around the country to sharpen

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Speaker 2: your pencils when you get a public job. It is

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Speaker 2: not a money tree. And it was also going with

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Speaker 2: A little bit of double dipping there they charged themselves fees,

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Speaker 2: need to spend. Spending has to continue, but not carelessly.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday. Now as five fourteen, Phil Goff was sacked yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that Winston and Peter says

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Speaker 2: because they're mates. As Winston said, I made this man

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Speaker 2: and why he had to go in just a few moments.

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen after five.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on a filly edition with one roof. Make

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Speaker 2: Right the time. It's now seventeen minutes after five. Phil

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Speaker 2: Goff has gone from London. Winston Peters has sacked the

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Speaker 9: President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the

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Speaker 2: And that's what was all it took for him to

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Speaker 2: very disappointing, in fact, deeply disappointing. The head of politics

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 8: To you, Morning morning, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: So was that really a seckable offense?

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Speaker 8: I think usually it wouldn't be, but it was aware

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Speaker 2: Many people have said. The thing is, if you'd said

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Speaker 8: which normally means that you can say what you're reckoned,

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Speaker 8: it can't be printed or broadcast. But this was actually

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Speaker 8: that as a politician he would have been quite free

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Speaker 8: I think he did step out of his role there.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It's a time and place thing, isn't it. And that

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean what we have to do is distinguished

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Speaker 8: it as High commission in this sensitive time. I mean

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Speaker 8: I agree with what he said, and I think many

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Speaker 8: you said, the time, all the sensitivity, and we saw

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Speaker 8: publicly how President Trump even humiliates those who seemed to

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Speaker 8: challenge him over Ukraine. So I think Whenston Peters felt

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Speaker 8: for New Zealand's interests, had to do a public act

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Speaker 8: in response.

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Speaker 2: All right, well let's move on, and who and what

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Speaker 2: do we need out of the next High commissioner?

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Speaker 8: Well, possibly a career diplomat, because I think this is

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Speaker 8: the challenge when you have somebody who as a former politician,

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Speaker 2: All right, James, enjoy your weekend. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 2: us early this morning. That is James Hidley, who is

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Speaker 2: the head of politics at the Otaga University. More on

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Speaker 2: Phil Goff's superpower and other people's superpowers later in the program.

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Speaker 2: It's five twenty. Next we're off to Australia as Psycho

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Speaker 2: and Alfred makes wind landfall should I say well windfall

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Speaker 2: It's five twenty So Australia is bracing for tropical Cyclone

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Speaker 10: These are tough times, but Australian's a tough people and

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Speaker 11: Yes, the latest report from the Bureau of Meteorology has

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Speaker 2: So what's going to happen? I mean, I'm reading that

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Speaker 2: News Talks a B. What an incredible week. What's with

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Speaker 2: all these sackings and surprise resignations? Phil Goff? Yesterday, Adrian

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Speaker 2: When things start getting all hot and sticky in their jobs,

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Speaker 2: next on the New Storks he'll be I'm Andrew Dickinson

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 7: You talk to me, well, that's the way I wait.

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Speaker 2: You have at five to thirty five of the morning.

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Speaker 2: Good boarding to see you. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ron Bridge.

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Speaker 2: And that is Shee Hard and home again the Wellington

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Speaker 2: They're coming to the end of their final tour this week.

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Speaker 2: This band announced that they've sold out spark A, Rita

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Speaker 2: final Hurrah. Tickets are going to fly out quickly because

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Speaker 2: And the very very very final chance to see she

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the country right now, and first to Dunedin.

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Speaker 2: Luckel and ready, welcome to the program. So there's a

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Speaker 12: No, so, seventy year old Steve Prescott's aiming to be

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Speaker 2: What's this feller's name again, Steve Prescott? Steve Prescott Mark,

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Speaker 2: that one done very good? And I thank you, Claire?

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Speaker 2: Sure what joins you? From CHRISTI to tell Claire good morning?

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Speaker 2: So significant milestone for christ Church Chummeley Children's Center spelt

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Speaker 13: Chol Manderley it's spelt, but it's always said Chumley. That's

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Speaker 13: one that always trips up New reporters Andrew so good

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Speaker 13: It is a big day for Chumley here in christ Church.

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Speaker 13: They're celebrating one hundred years since opening. There's a special

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 13: Chumley, if you don't know, is a place that provides

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Speaker 2: How's your weather?

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Speaker 13: Fine day today if you scattered chowers? But not until

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Speaker 2: To Wellington we go. Max told good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. We're aready spoken about this before it turns

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Speaker 2: out that Tory Fano and the council don't want Nick

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Speaker 15: Yeah, let me give you a summation of what's happened

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Speaker 15: this week, it's all been a big mess. The chief executive,

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Speaker 15: he's all right at Wellington Water. He was only appointed

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Speaker 15: when this report came out scathing of Wellington Water, we

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Speaker 15: You're right, Tory Fano yesterday, joining Upper Huts Wayne Guppy

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Speaker 15: at this as the city's pipes deteriorate. Poly doers Anita

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Speaker 15: Now they say way, our rates have been fair and

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Speaker 15: if anything, they've been low, pointing the finger back at

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Speaker 15: all a mess. Rate payers, we're caught in the middle.

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Speaker 15: If Leggott is to step down, likely at a major

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Speaker 7: How's your party?

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Speaker 15: Cloudy Southerly's nineteen the High Central.

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Speaker 2: Niva Richard Wada was an Awkland.

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Speaker 16: Gosh, it's been a busy news week, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely Goodness is Friday resignations and sacking. That's right, I resign.

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Speaker 2: I've had enough. I'm going Thank goodness, we're still here.

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Speaker 16: That's right, We're still here though.

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Speaker 2: PACIFICA Festival is coming back.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I thought I'd end today on a happier note,

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Speaker 16: and that's right. So for the next couple of days,

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Speaker 16: this is Western Springs. It's going to play host of

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Speaker 16: the Pacific Music, Dance, Arts Food that whole weekend. They're

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Speaker 16: expecting about forty thousand people, so that's quite good. The

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Speaker 16: event organizer, JYPSU Vullies is that Auckland is home to

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Speaker 16: more than four hundred thousand Pacific of people. So it's

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Speaker 16: great people can get out there. They've got all the

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Speaker 16: stall holders. He's also saying that all the stallholders are

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Speaker 16: from the community. But there's a lot happening in Auckland

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Speaker 16: this weekend. You know, we've got the You're going to

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Speaker 16: a lot of the Auckland Arts festivals stuff, aren't you.

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Speaker 16: And we've got the boat show, the races. Everything is

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Speaker 16: on and the weather's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be good for that.

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Speaker 16: Fine today, fine over the weekend. Auckland is high of twenty.

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Speaker 2: Two on Friday and needn written Ona and I thank you.

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Speaker 2: And earlier this in the program, I talked about the

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Speaker 2: epic turtlong A playground that costs five million dollars, which

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Speaker 2: is super popular. Taxpayers Union said that's wildly expensive. What's

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Speaker 2: it made of? Shreded ratepayers dollars? I've cut a text

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Speaker 2: in no Station, an email actually from Katherine who says,

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Speaker 2: why don't you ask to totaling a council how much

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Speaker 2: they spend on the skatepark among the NEWI road. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they've got much change from ten million dollars.

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Speaker 2: But insane, that says Katherine. It is used all the time,

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Speaker 2: so many kids love it and all the old kids,

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Speaker 2: so that brings out the child and them. So that's

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Speaker 2: the thing. These things are good, but not when they're

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Speaker 2: too expensive. Seventeen minutes to six. Denmark has done something

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Speaker 2: leading in Europe. They're getting rid of snail mail. They're

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Speaker 2: ripping out the letterboxes. There will be no mail. If

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Speaker 2: you've got a friend in Denmark, post a letter now

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Speaker 2: because in a few months time you won't be able

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Speaker 2: to details with this story and Ukraine with Vincent macavenni Inemo.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: The time is now fourteen to six. I'm Andrew Dickinson

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Speaker 2: for Ryan Bridge. Let's go to Europe. Vincent mcavenny, good

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Speaker 2: morning to you. Good morning. We'll go straight to Ukraine

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Speaker 2: with Prison Macron giving a TV adris.

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Speaker 17: Yes, a remarkable address by President macroan of France last night,

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Speaker 17: announcing that France would boost its defense spending, that the

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Speaker 17: heads of the of the European militaries were invited to

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Speaker 17: a special summits in France next week to talk about

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Speaker 17: greater cooperation, and indeed that France might extend its nuclear

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Speaker 17: deterrant umbrella across all of Europe, still keeping it in

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Speaker 17: control of the French president. But that was in response

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Speaker 17: to a call from incoming German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz that

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Speaker 17: France's nuclear deterrent may now be needed with the uncertainty

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Speaker 17: on the US's position on NATO's ars call five, that

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Speaker 17: that now might be something that we need in order

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Speaker 17: to fend off Russia, thinking it might be able to

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Speaker 17: invade other countries given how much leniency it's been shown

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Speaker 17: by the Trumpet minister.

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Speaker 2: It's the extension of the nuclear deterrent umbrella that gives

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Speaker 2: us all the wibblewobbles.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, usually.

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Speaker 17: I mean, France is one of two nuclear powers in Europe,

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Speaker 17: the UK being the other. They have slightly different capabilities.

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Speaker 17: The UK system is submarine based, but we know that

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Speaker 17: this is something that's the UK after the sort of

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Speaker 17: the tumult of the Brexit years, that we are sort

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Speaker 17: of keen to do better military and security deals with

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Speaker 17: the EU. We are sort of at the forefront of those,

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Speaker 17: alongside France. So this is something that I think is

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Speaker 17: going to be discussed, potentially even discussion for the EU

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Speaker 17: countries of forming some kind of unified army This has

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Speaker 17: been an idea that's been kicked around for decades, but

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Speaker 17: how you would sort of do the command structure has

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Speaker 17: never quite been made clear.

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Speaker 2: All right, interesting days. Meanwhile, you can't post a letter

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Speaker 2: to Dimmark in the future.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 17: After four hundred years, Denmark is ending its public backed

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Speaker 17: postal service. This is called post Nord. They say they've

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Speaker 17: seen a ninety percent decline in letters since the turn

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Speaker 17: of the century, and so the fifteen hundred post boxes

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Speaker 17: around the country will start disappearing by June. They say

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Speaker 17: that there are commercial providers who can do letters, but

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Speaker 17: that it is no longer cost effective for the state

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Speaker 17: to be running such a public service.

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Speaker 2: Well, all right, the times they are at changing. Vincent

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Speaker 2: mcavenni enjoying a weekend news talks here b it's now

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Speaker 2: twelve to six.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens.

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Speaker 2: In a week of resignations and sackings, we had another

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Speaker 2: and this was a shock. This came out of the

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Speaker 2: Blue Air New Zealand boss Greg Faran is a calling

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Speaker 2: at quits. Remember he came to us just before the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: He used to work out to Walmart, used to run Walmart.

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Speaker 2: So the airline's chair believes the airline is well up

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Speaker 2: to well set up to continue its growth without Greg Forum.

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Speaker 2: But the Governments of course is a majors majority shareholder

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Speaker 2: at fifty one percent. So we are wondering how this

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Speaker 2: will impact the economy. Obviously it's a big deal in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. I've got an aviation commentator with me right

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Speaker 2: now who joins me from India because she's traveling, Irene King,

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning? Is it hot?

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Speaker 14: Now? I'll make surely in your deli at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Nice. Now here's the question of the week with all

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Speaker 2: these resignations and these seconds, was he did he quit

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Speaker 2: or was he pushed?

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Speaker 7: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 14: I think it's it's voluntary. Yeah, I had a tip

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Speaker 14: off about three or four weeks ago he was considering

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Speaker 14: it and yeah he's had a challenging time and what

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Speaker 14: a rollercoaster of five years. And I think you need

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Speaker 14: any human lists would say, yep, you know, let's have

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Speaker 14: a break from this in at the moment, it's just relentless.

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Speaker 2: It is relentless. What are the challenges facing in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand right now that the new chief executive will have

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Speaker 2: to face up to.

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Speaker 14: Well, we you know, the engine issues are well documentine,

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Speaker 14: but there's big supply chain problems in terms of new aircraft,

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Speaker 14: so you know that's constraining growth right around the world.

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Speaker 14: And the New Zealand economy, you know, it's it's pretty well,

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Speaker 14: it's an economy that's underperforming relatives the rest of the world,

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Speaker 14: and so that's seriously impacting EMU Zellen's profitability. He's got

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Speaker 14: some some major major misalignments for the domestic market to address,

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Speaker 14: and you know that those are not easy either. And

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Speaker 14: I guess the last point I would make is, you know,

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Speaker 14: we're all having to severely address our costs, and I

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Speaker 14: don't really see any great evidence of a New Zealant

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Speaker 14: during the present time.

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Speaker 2: How could they.

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Speaker 14: Well, you can always address your costs, you know, you

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Speaker 14: just have to really think about how smart your organization

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Speaker 14: has function being relative to know what the customers value.

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Speaker 2: So Dame Trees Walsh, who is the chair, says that

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Speaker 2: the airline is well set up to continue its trajectory

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Speaker 2: of growth and innovation. Are you as confident as she is?

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Speaker 14: Well, you know, I think they're in the nose. They

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Speaker 14: see the numbers. But you know, you've got to be

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Speaker 14: really really focused back on the New Zealand domestic market.

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Speaker 14: Customers are unhappy they perceive they're not being value for money.

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Speaker 14: The regional New Zealand is particularly unhappy with high seas,

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Speaker 14: being that there are watering nieces for the ordinary person.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I really enjoin you, Delly, and I

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us as Irene King

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Speaker 2: and she is an aviation commentator. And yes New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: like to travel with the New Zealand. It makes absolutely

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Speaker 2: no sense when you want to travel somewhere and discover

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Speaker 2: that it's cheaper in fact to go to Australia. There

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Speaker 2: should be some sort of equivalents. And if there was

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Speaker 2: some sort of equivalence, if you had a cheaper price point,

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Speaker 2: and then you'd end out with more people taking the flights.

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Speaker 2: And I know I used to go down to Wellington

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Speaker 2: all the time when my boy was at university there.

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Speaker 2: But would I do it now? No, I would not,

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Speaker 2: because frankly it's just too expensive. Not like the glory

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Speaker 2: days when I used to go down to wang Mui

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Speaker 2: all the time because I worked down there and it

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Speaker 2: was like ninety bucks on a focker friendship and it

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Speaker 2: was one of the great flights of all time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so it's coming up seven minutes to six. It's news

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Speaker 2: talks at.

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Speaker 1: B Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew

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Speaker 1: Dickens and One Room to Make Your Property Search Simple.

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Speaker 2: News Talks at be so Wik of sacking and resignations,

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Speaker 2: and yet my Hoskin's still here.

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Speaker 18: Which it's amazing, isn't it. The the Room's been flying

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Speaker 18: for years, and yet still I turn off.

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Speaker 2: I was just saying earlier that the over sixties have

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Speaker 2: a superpower, and that superpower is that they don't give

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Speaker 2: a flying figure.

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Speaker 18: I've never felt more comfortable. You just the summing.

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Speaker 2: No one can tell you what to do.

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Speaker 18: I thought that with Winston Peters earlier on this week

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Speaker 18: when we were chatting with him. He's got that, He's

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Speaker 18: got that. Really, I'm affable, likable, I'm enjoying my life.

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Speaker 18: And you saw it yesterday when he sacked Golf. He

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Speaker 18: seemed genuinely for a guy who's pretty cantankerous at the

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Speaker 18: best of times, he seemed genuinely disappointed and upset that,

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Speaker 18: you know, a guy he had known for a very

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Speaker 18: long time. Unfortunately, I wish I could have done your

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Speaker 18: favor Phil, but you know you can't do this right now.

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Speaker 18: It does tell you how sensitive we are at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But I'm in my sixties now. Do I have you?

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Speaker 18: Well, that's incredible. I would I still had you in

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Speaker 18: the late forties and sick.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's because you're looking like a thirty year old,

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Speaker 2: that is true. Have you got grandkids?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 7: I do?

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Speaker 14: Not?

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Speaker 18: You want no?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, No, some people do.

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Speaker 2: I Richard's just had a grandkid.

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Speaker 18: He's one hundred, and you.

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Speaker 2: Know what his grandkids called el Elvis els of Keith

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Speaker 2: as Elvis. Do you know?

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Speaker 18: I saw a video of Keith Richards this week and

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Speaker 18: he was in Soho in New York and he was

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Speaker 18: about to get in his car and some woman randomly

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Speaker 18: comes up to him on the street and goes, you'r

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Speaker 18: Keith Ritch. And he just stopped and he talked and

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Speaker 18: he put his arm around her and he smiled for

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Speaker 18: the camera. But the funny thing was his hat which

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Speaker 18: he was wearing, was barely on his head. And he

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Speaker 18: was wearing a bandanna like he wears his bandanna, but

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Speaker 18: his hat was barely on his head and he just

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Speaker 18: looked like a complain I thought there's a guy's happy

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Speaker 18: that is a very damaged head, though very damaged here.

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Speaker 18: In fact, I could tell you a story about his

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Speaker 18: head in his house and where he stayed and all

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Speaker 18: that sort of stuff in Auckland. In fact, when I

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Speaker 18: last interviewed Keith Richards, see we go, I've got time

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Speaker 18: for it. When I last interviewed Keith Richards, he went

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Speaker 18: down the track the doctor who looked after Andrew Law. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: he spoke. He almost burst into tears for the story,

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Speaker 18: just like the what that doctor did for him. He

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Speaker 18: has never forgotten.

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Speaker 2: So Andrew operated on my boy. Oh when he fall

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Speaker 2: out of a tree. No no, no, no, he had

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Speaker 2: didn't fland for two years. So he had a big

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Speaker 2: old operation with Andrew Law. Saved his life. And so

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Speaker 2: we go and see it and Andrew Law. And every

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Speaker 2: time I go and see Andrew Law, we just go,

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Speaker 2: what's Keith up to you? Keith will fly Andrew all

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Speaker 2: around the world to go to gigs and and he

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Speaker 2: stays in touch. And I thought that that's a genuine relationship.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go. Yeah, No, I don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: about the news. That's Friday, We're too much Fun. See

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Speaker 2: you on Monday. I'm Andrew Dickens and my thanks for

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Speaker 2: producer ken z My Husking.

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