WEBVTT - The Epstein Files: What's behind the latest US political controversy? 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:07.040 Kiota. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.600 I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:20.720 daily podcast presented by The New Zealand Herald. You may 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:25.640 have heard something recently about the Epstein files. Nearly six 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:30.240 years after the disgraced financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.200 died in prison, he has once again become the center 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.640 of political controversy in the United States. It's after the 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.440 Justice Department decided not to release more detailed records from 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:49.080 the Epstein investigation, with Attorney General Pam Bondie concluding he 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.800 did not leave behind a so called client list. But 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.960 that hasn't stopped the avalanche of speculation and major MAGA 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:05.080 infighting over the apparent lack of transparency. So has that 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.840 been a major cover up or have we succumbed to 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.800 another kennedyesque conspiracy and there's actually nothing to see here. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:19.240 Today on the Front Page, Associated Press Washington correspondent Eric 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.360 Tucker will take us through the latest in the Epstein saga. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.880 First off, Eric, are you able to give us a 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.880 little bit of background on this Epstein scandal? 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:36.600 Sure so. Jeffrey Epstein was a very wealthy New York 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:42.319 financer who had connections with really significant powerful people in 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.840 the United States, both political figures and celebrities, and he 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:50.320 was arrested in twenty nineteen on sex trafficking charges. He 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:55.720 was basically accused of having sexual relationships with underage girls 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.640 at different properties. And one of the things that I 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.480 think is really captured the public's attention is that weeks 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.480 after his arrests, he was found dead in his New 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.640 York jail cell, and the authorities quickly determined that that 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.680 was a suicide. But there have been in the ensuing 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.600 years all sorts of theories and questions as to whether 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.840 or not in fact, it was a suicide, and conspiracy 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.400 theorists sprout around that, and then there have been questions 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.280 about who exactly his friends were, and who might have 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.280 traveled with him, and who might have engaged in any 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.120 kind of similar activity with this miss Epstein. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.280 What was promised earlier this year by the Trump administration, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:37.480 so the. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.920 Justice Department and the FBI had committed to releasing the 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.760 investigative file from the Epstein case. This is actually something 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.320 that Donald Trump, who is himself an associate of Jeffrey Epstein, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.400 had talked about on the campaign trail, and this was 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.600 a pledge that we had heard repeatedly from Attorney General 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.880 Pam Bondi. In February, she was asked in a Fox 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.639 News interview whether it was true that she was going 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.959 to release the quote unquote client list, and she nodded 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.519 her head and said that was sitting on her desk. 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.440 Pleasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:10.520 Well, that really happen. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.520 It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.639 been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:22.000 reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.080 of being reviewed because that was done at the directive 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.080 of the president from all of these agencies. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.000 She has since said that she was referring to the 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.280 entire Epstein case file as being on her desk, and 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.720 so the public over the course of several months began 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.760 to anticipate that there was likely going to be significant 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.400 revelations that were going to be released by the federal government. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.880 Right now. A lot of names in this case household 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:50.280 names in New Zealand. So can you tell me who 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.600 the main characters are in this case? 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.640 So, Pam Bondi is someone who had been the attorney 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.320 General of the state of Florida. She is a Trump loyalist. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.640 She'd actually defended Donald Trump in one of his impeachment 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.400 cases here in the United States, and she's very close 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.840 to the president. Cash Battel is somebody who is a 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:17.039 sort of bombastic podcast presidence, former federal prosecutor. And Dan 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.640 Bongino is a former Secret Service agent who came as 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.080 a deputy director. Now to understand the anger that's happened 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.279 in certain conservative circles and supporters of Donald Trump, is 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.000 important to note what these three people had said in 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:34.120 the past prior in some cases to them joining the government. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.839 So Hash Battel and Dan Bongino, the two leaders of 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.120 the FBI, are two people who had openly promoted some 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.960 of the conspiracy theories that are really driving the narrative. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.880 They had openly questioned the idea about whether Jeffrey Epstein 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.600 had been in fact murdered instead of committed suicide. They 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.800 had talked about a cover up in the government. So 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.839 these are people who, prior to joining the FBI, had 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.200 talked about and sort of raised the hope expectation that 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.920 they were going to release and going to be able 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.080 to make public all sorts of documents, and they contributed 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.080 I believe to the public anticipation that perhaps there had 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.800 been a cover of perhaps there were documents that had 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.400 not been yet seen, and I think the anger of 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.719 some of Donald Trump's face has to be sort of 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.040 recognized against that. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.000 Fact, right, So were there some was where the file 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.360 was released recently. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.479 So the only thing that was released, the only thing 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.440 sort of fairly new was a recording of Jeffrey Epstein's 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.920 jail cell, and the recording was meant to definitively put 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.880 to rest any suspicion about the circumstance of his death. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.640 But even that contained a missing minute that fueled conspiracy 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.680 theorists that perhaps the JUST perm was still holding on 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.479 to something that it should have released. But beyond that, though, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.800 the JUST Department, in a two page memo last week 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.120 that's caused a lot of consternation, said it had concluded 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.919 that it wasn't going to release any other information because 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.400 he said the materials that didn't reviewed were pornographic in 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.760 nature and not fit for public consumption. There was no 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.800 public value, so they didn't release anything. And they also 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.760 said that there was no client list, so that he 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.960 didn't maintain a list of clients that didn't come upon it. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.520 And again, this is something that when you think about 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.480 the Attorney General Pambondi's earlier comments back in February, she 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.640 had sort of promoted the idea that such a client 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.520 list existed. So again we saw lots of anger after 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.080 that revelation. Right, So we. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.039 Don't know whether there is or isn't a client list. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.240 Everyone says that there isn't, but there may be. I mean, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:34.760 what do you reckon, Eric. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.719 So we're still trying to report out exactly what happened. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.279 One thing I should note is that FBI and just 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.200 department investigators, many of them were pulled off of their 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:47.240 day jobs during the last several months to review all 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.720 sorts of records of related to the Epstein case file. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.279 So there's no question there's a lot of documentation, There's 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.640 a lot of paperwork. There are a lot of documents 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.400 and records and information that the public is not seeing, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.960 separate apart from whatever pornographic information the Attorney General is 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.839 talking about, and we're not seeing any of that. Now. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.960 Is it possible as something could be released later? I 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:15.760 suppose that's possible. But President Trump has taken a really 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.200 specific stance on this. He has really sort of come 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.320 out in support of the Justice Department and their decision, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.960 and he has shut off questions about Jeffrey Epstein said 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.720 it's time to move on, time to turn the page. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.880 He's thrown his support fully behind Attorney General Bondie, So 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.320 he's made it clear he's done talking about as has 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.440 the Attorney General. So clearly the Just Department is really 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.000 trying to move forward away from this. How big of 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.680 a blowback is there right now in MAGA world specifically. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.560 It's pretty big. I have to be honest. It's just 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.440 a red line that it crosses for many people. Jeffrey 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.480 Epstein is literally the most well known convicted pedophile and 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.760 modern day history. This is something that's been talked about 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.679 by many people serving in the administration, myself and many 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.680 others on the right and the left, of their needing 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.960 to be transparency of the rich and powerful elites that 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:10.080 were in his circle while he was just one of 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:15.000 the worst serial abusers of young women. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.840 I see political figures from both sides of the aisle 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:23.040 demanding more transparency. That seems a bit unusual on this 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.080 side of the world. The likes of Marjorie Taylor Green 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.400 and House Democrats agreeing on something. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:30.640 Does that happen often? 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.120 It does not happen often, not in this polarized climate 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.560 in Washington at all. And it's sort of hard, you'll explain, 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.440 you know, It's easier to understand a little bit the 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.400 perspective of the Trump supporters who believed and sort of 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:48.640 had held the expectation that their own Justice Department, the 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.880 people who they had supported, were going to release this 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.760 information they had wanted. I think Democrats now are suspicious 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:59.080 as to what is in these files that the Trump 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:03.080 White House and the Trump US Department isn't allowing into 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.960 into the spotlight. You know. One of the things that's 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.560 worth noting is that this just department had talked a 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.840 lot of this FBI in particular, had talked a lot 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.679 about transparency and accountability. That's been sort of those are 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.840 buzzwords from cash Hotel and Dan Bung Gino, And so 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.000 there are people who feel sort of let down that 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:25.239 this does not an example of transparency or accountability in terms. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.400 Of releasing the files, Like how hard would it be 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.520 for them to release them? I understand that there will 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.160 be sensitive information in but for example, here, you'd ask 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.000 the government for something and if they don't or can't 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.240 legally tell you something, then they just black it out. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.000 Is that something similar that happens in the US, or 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.520 if they release something that has to be full transparency. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.040 No, that's an outstanding question, and I think it is 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.240 certainly the norm, just as you mentioned here in the 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.559 Justice Department, that people who are not charged, who are 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.640 not accused of wrongdoing, but whose names might surface an investigation, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.400 it is not the custom to release their names into 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.280 the wild, and so there should presumably be a mechanism 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.839 to redact it. And again that it's a great question. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.000 We don't know why in this case they made a 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:15.760 decision not to release the information with black doubt or redacted, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.880 you know, big black lines through them. I suspect though, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.640 that that would not have satiated the public desire for 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.840 more transparency and information to a release records, but not 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.560 have given the names. I think part of what's really 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.280 driving this is there's this sense and the suspicion that 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.840 there are all sorts of big, powerful names here, and 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.680 part of that is in fact based in the fact 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.640 that you know, celebrities and big political figures did in 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.640 fact fly on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. He was really well 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.800 known to people who are, you know, former presidents. But 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.920 again there's been no public allegation, no suspicion that anybody 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.640 other than Jeffrey Epstein and another person who was charged 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.240 a law with him, a former British socialite girlfriend named 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.720 Glene Maxwell. Well they're the only two have ever been 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.240 accused of any sexual wrongdoings. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:15.000 People are saying that the magabase mad at Trump, but 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.240 is that actually the case or is that kind of 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:22.360 I suppose the mainstream media finding something controversial to talk about. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.400 I think that the brunt of the anger is falling 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.920 on the leaders of the FBI and the Just Department. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.200 I do think there's anger at Trump, and sort of 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.000 confusion as to why Trump, who had promised on the 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.680 campaign trail to promote the release of this information, suddenly 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.960 not releasing it. So yeah, there is anger, but I 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.800 do think we're hearing more anger directed at Cash Betel 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.079 and Dan Bongino and Pambondi. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.240 Mister resident, I know you've urged people to move on, 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.679 but I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.319 particular have been so interested in the Epstein story and 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.839 so upset about how it's been handled. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.040 Do you think that is why they would be so interested? 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.800 And he's dead for a long time. He was never 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:11.280 a big factor in terms of life. I don't understand 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.920 what the interest or what the fascination is. I really 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:19.080 don't have the credible information has been given. Don't forget 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.720 we went through years of the follow which hunted all 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.920 of the different things, the Steele dossier, which was all faked. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.679 All that information is made. But I don't understand why 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.000 the Jeffrey Epste case would be of interest to anybody. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:34.720 It's pretty boring stuff. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.560 Do you think that this will have a lasting effect 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.840 on Trump's legacy? I suppose, But he is quite quick 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.400 to sweep things under the carpet, isn't he. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:48.040 It's hard to say, you know, the news cycle in 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:52.319 the United States moves very quickly these days. I think 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.800 there's no question that the Epstein story has had staying power, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:02.560 though it's captured the public's attention for years in some ways, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.280 and this is sort of an example of what has 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.760 happened when people who have promoted kind of frankly conspiracy 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:17.040 theories and uncorroborated thoughts prior to arrival, and government are 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.120 now suddenly in the positions of power where they can 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.160 deliver on those pledges to you know, dismantle the deep 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.400 state or unlock the secrets of the deep state, And 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.640 so that anger has sort of built up in surfaced, 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.560 and the story has had legs. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.600 I suppose it has all of the makings of a 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.080 really good conspiracy theory, doesn't it. It's got famous names, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.439 it's got you know, as soon as all those flight 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.719 logs came out, people were searching the Internet for photos 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.120 of them at parties. And it's got all of that. 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.679 It's got the secrecy, it's got the mysteriousness. And like 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.319 you said as well, those people who were pushing that 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.160 conspiracy theory now actually getting into power. Do you think 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.440 it's now been a case that they've gotten in to 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.120 the FBI, I say, and realized that it's not as 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.960 easy as to release information as one may have thought legally. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.120 That's absolutely true. I think there's there's no question about that. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.280 And one of the things that I think we haven't 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.840 talked about this's worth noting, is that the two leaders 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.960 of the FBI were very quick, I think, being able 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:26.000 to correctly see around the corner. They use different interview appearances, 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.200 you know, over the course of really frankly weeks to 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.280 tell people, Hey, I know you may think that Jeffrey 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.360 Epstein was murdered, but we've seen the video ourselves. He 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.720 committed suicide. There's no doubt. And so I think that 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.720 was their early signal of sort of frankly a recognition 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.640 that some of the things they had said or sort 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.280 of foreshadowed or forecasts weren't going to come to pass. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.800 But there's no question, as you said, that it's proven 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.280 difficult for people who are now empowered to make good 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:56.240 on some of those pledges. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:00.960 Absolutely, what should the public expect next? 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.520 We're all sort of waiting to see. There was a 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.280 blow up at the White House last week between Pambondi, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.200 the Attorney General, and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino. He 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.880 actually was reported to have not come to work on 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.560 Friday to sort of contemplate his fate, and people close 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:23.280 to him said that he was considering resigning. But he's 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.160 apparently back at work, so we're waiting to see how 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.240 that shakes out. But obviously this has delta blood of 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.600 the relationship that he has had with his boss. Pam Bondi. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.120 So that's gonna be one dynamic to watch. There are 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.960 other people on sort of far right conservative internet personalities 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.320 and public figures who have posted online without any corroboration. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.480 They have spoken to their sources who say the Justice 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.520 Department is poised to rethink its position and that more 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.360 information could be disclosed in the coming weeks. We have 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.240 no indication that's true, though, and the Just Department is 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.720 preparing to walk to go back on his earlier position. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.800 We have no reason to think that that's true. But 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.200 it's again anticipated, building anticipation. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:06.680 It's been six years since Jeffrey Epstein died. Do you 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.760 reckon this will be the last that we hear about him? 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.160 Or is this turning into a kind of JFK? Is 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.200 the moon landing real situation? Are we still going to 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.400 be talking about this in like five decades time? 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:24.000 Only that Trump administration hopes that this story's over. The 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.040 Attorney General appear in an unrelated news conference today she 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.560 want to take any questions about her that I'm not talking 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.000 about Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump has said we're done talking 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.640 about him. Died six years ago, as you mentioned, so 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:37.960 you know it's hard to say whether this will have 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.040 that same kind of staying power, but there's no question 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.480 that Trump administration is really working hard to turn the 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.040 page and I don't want to face any more questions 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.520 about this. Thanks for joining us, Eric, Oh, thank you, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.760 great conversation. Appreciate it. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.880 That's it for this episode of the Front Page. You 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.920 can read more about today's stories and extensive news coverage 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.920 at enzidherld dot co dot nz. The Front Page is 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.719 produced by Ethan Siles and Richard Martin, who is also 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:12.359 our editor. I'm Chelsea Daniels. 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