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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen Drey with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else said, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Seven after for Simeon Brown and why he doesn't smoke,

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Speaker 2: new rules for Kiwi terrorists, Jetstar and its baggage, Murray

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Speaker 2: Olds and Australia and the Brady in the UK, and

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Speaker 2: we have plans for local water done well. We also

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Speaker 2: have the bill, and you're not going to like the bill.

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Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge nine the number to text. Donald Trump has

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Speaker 2: every writer, as every president does, to crack down on

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Speaker 2: the American border. There are problems there that we down

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Speaker 2: here in safe little old New Zealand just do not understand.

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Speaker 2: Illegal migration sounds to us like a far away and

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Speaker 2: non threatening concept, because well it is. Thank you, ocean.

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Speaker 2: If you believe everything that the liberal international media serves

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Speaker 2: up on a silver platter for you, and that this

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Speaker 2: is an issue invented by tyrants like Trump to retain

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Speaker 2: their grip on power, explain Starmer, the lovely lefty Labour

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Speaker 2: leader of Great Britain. In case you missed it. Starmer

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Speaker 2: this week has signed a piece of paper asking Europe

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Speaker 2: to kindly redefine human rights because the current definition is

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Speaker 2: well a little too generous, thank you very much. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Labour's man at number ten wants to narrow human rights.

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Speaker 2: He wants to be able to kick more asylum seekers

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Speaker 2: out of Britain because the cost, the burden, the daily

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Speaker 2: arrivals of boats simply unsustainable and the British public had

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Speaker 2: enough of it ages ago. Enter Farage right. So this

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Speaker 2: is not a figment of a dictator's imagination, but a

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Speaker 2: genuine political problem. Back to Trump, He's cracking down at

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Speaker 2: the border friend or foe, and new rules are coming

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Speaker 2: for us Keiweks and other visa waiver countries. These apply

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Speaker 2: to tourists, so a visit to Hawaii is all it's

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Speaker 2: going to take for you. In order to gain entry,

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Speaker 2: you will have to hand over five years of your

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Speaker 2: social media activity. It's mandatory, by the way. You're going

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Speaker 2: to have to do this, this is their intention. You'll

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Speaker 2: you've used in the past five years. Can you even

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Speaker 2: remember every email address that you have used for the

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Speaker 2: past decade. How many jobs have you had in that time?

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Speaker 2: How many work email addresses have you had in that time?

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Speaker 2: Can you remember them all? Now? I'm no terrorist, but

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Speaker 2: this sounds like a lot, doesn't it. So I probably

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Speaker 2: won't be visiting America anytime soon. If you had to

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Speaker 2: I'd probably, on balance just go to Mexico, Ryan Bridge,

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Speaker 2: You're trying to get over a bureaucratic wall to the

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Speaker 2: minutes after four, let's go now to hemp the Regulation Ministry.

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Speaker 2: David Seymour's on the charge here. Regulation Ministry cutting red

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Speaker 2: tape for hemp growers. Growers will need to notify MPI

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Speaker 2: and police, but will no longer need a license to

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Speaker 2: grow and handle it for legal purposes. The change is

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Speaker 2: expected to bring in an extra forty million bucks in

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Speaker 2: the first two decades. Brad Lakes, co founder of The Brothers,

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Speaker 2: Green with me this afternoon. Hey Brad, Hi, Ryan, good

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Speaker 2: to have you on the show. What are you doing

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Speaker 3: We are basically taking the raw seed and we've got

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Speaker 2: And so what are the regulations that have been cut

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Speaker 2: that will benefit you? Well, how are they strangling you

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, first of all, really you know the

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Speaker 2: What's the big deal? Why is everyone so worried about him?

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Speaker 2: Is it because it just sort of looks a little

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Speaker 2: can you? So what's the problem?

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Speaker 3: No, And then I mean most people have probably driven

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Speaker 3: It should be with sitting with MPI and every part

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Speaker 2: Can you sell the seeds? Are you going to sell

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it would be interesting to see what

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Speaker 2: Brad Bradlake, co founder of The Brothers Green, talking about

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Speaker 2: the deregulation of the hemp industry. I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: It's the Heather Do for Sea Allan Drive full show.

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Speaker 1: Podcast on Iheard Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks B. It is seventeen minutes after four. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: my wife went to the States and Mexico in September

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Speaker 2: and part of the entry v he's required us to

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Speaker 2: for him is is this Will they make you sign

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Speaker 2: five years or is it just stuff that you've made public?

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Speaker 2: And if it's not public, are they going to make

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Speaker 4: Sport with tab bedlve with in play are eighteen They're.

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Speaker 2: Responsibly Darcy's here with us, Darcy, how things tracking at

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Speaker 5: I think the stage a couple of years ago. I

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Speaker 6: Be walked in there.

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Speaker 2: It all is the savest thing to do.

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Speaker 5: Criick at New Zealand tonit of nine to four, the

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Speaker 5: And before we do that, let's talk about how I'm

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Speaker 5: going to play with the tab Remember eighteen bet responsibly.

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Speaker 5: I've got a couple of different angles on this one.

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Speaker 5: I've decided that multi's are the biggest fun I have

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Speaker 5: when it comes to going to the tob It's. It's

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Speaker 5: tomorrow morning, New Zealand time the PDC Darts Championship. So

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Speaker 5: He does it says a lot about the culture of

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Speaker 5: Says a lot about the culture. But then midway through

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. The head of the ICC, the chair

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Speaker 2: Brilliant Darcy then, thank you, that's Darcy with Sports. It

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Speaker 2: Four twenty four on News TALKSB. So the councils, you know,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Now to this debate between Nicola and Ruth, which I'm

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Speaker 2: Later, the whole thing has become fascical. It was interesting yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Today's Newsmakers talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on Hither

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk, richest man in the world. You know him

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Speaker 2: Apparently it was helping terrorists now staying in the US.

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Speaker 11: The fed friend's read is now within.

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Speaker 2: And finally, King Jack.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to show you how eat a Oreo.

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Speaker 2: Sugar free Oreo cookies are on the way. It's iconic

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Speaker 1: International corresponds with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 2: Murray Olds out of Australia. Murray, Good afternoon, Murray, you're there,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Hi there, Ryan, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Now you've a former pilot who was convicted of murdering

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Speaker 2: Now, it sounds very twisty. Now the social media history

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Speaker 12: Authorities in the United States have planning to collect very

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Speaker 2: to go there your work conference or I don't know, funeral, fine,

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Speaker 2: But if you're tossing up between London, New York London.

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Speaker 12: You know about Italy.

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Speaker 4: I love Italy.

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Speaker 2: It is lovely very quickly on social media, has your

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Speaker 2: band going right?

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Speaker 13: Twenty four hours in and a lot of young people

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Speaker 13: are saying, oh, albow, get up my page, Get out

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Speaker 13: that elbow for his point, saying, listen, this is a

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Speaker 13: very tough decision, but it's necessary. He gave us some

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Speaker 13: quotes this morning. Seventy percent of the kids have been

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Speaker 13: exposed to harmful content online. One and three say their

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Speaker 13: most recent experience of cyber bullying occurred on a social

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Speaker 13: media platform. Three in five kids ryan say they've been

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Speaker 13: groomed online. Alban Easy says this is the new rule.

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Speaker 13: No way we're going back, and ninety nine nine pairents

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Speaker 13: are saying you, beauty.

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Speaker 2: Mark, appreciate your time. Marie Old's our Australia correspondent. It

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Speaker 2: is eighteen minutes away from five. I was driving to

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Speaker 2: work this morning actually, and I saw a bunch of

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Speaker 2: kids on a scooter, on of those lime scooters. And

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Speaker 2: it's always freaky watching them do this because they are

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Speaker 2: two on us or sometimes I've seen once seen three

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Speaker 2: on a single scooter and there were two on the

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Speaker 2: scooter and one of them fell off and he was

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Speaker 2: carrying a fishing rode And thought, actually, you know, that's

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Speaker 2: not something you probably want to complain about, because at

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Speaker 2: least they're out there doing something. You know, it might

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Speaker 2: be an electric scooter they might not be getting the

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Speaker 2: physical exercise, but they're out in the sunshine. They've got

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Speaker 2: a fishing rod. Who cares. They're better out than inside,

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Speaker 2: aren't they? Seventeen to five Barri Sooper.

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Speaker 1: Next the politics was centric credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payment certainty.

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Speaker 2: It is fourteen minutes away from five Barry Soapers here

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Speaker 2: politics bears good afternoon afternoon own debates on next week

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Speaker 2: will be on next week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. It's really interesting though why Nikola Willis is quite

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Speaker 6: keen on this debate because she is a debating champion.

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Speaker 6: She was at the Victoria University debating team when she

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Speaker 6: was studying there and took part in international competitions. She also,

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Speaker 6: in the run up to the two thousand and eight

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Speaker 6: election was working for John Key and she coached him

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Speaker 6: but also stood in as Helen Klass for debate. So look,

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Speaker 6: she's got plenty of experience and I really think that

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Speaker 6: Ruth Richison given her. She's been really pushing for it.

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Speaker 6: Today they gave Nichola Willis a five pm deadline to

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Speaker 6: agree to a debate next week. She said, anytime, any place,

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Speaker 6: take it or leave it, Minister, is.

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Speaker 2: This getting fasticle?

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Speaker 6: I love it? I think it's great. Are we watching?

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Speaker 6: So she of of course to remind your listeners Ruth

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Speaker 6: Richardson was the mother of all budgets. But she's also

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Speaker 6: the chair of the Taxpayers Union, which is out to

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Speaker 6: discredit Nichola Willis. Nicola Willis would argue, and I was

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Speaker 6: looking today at what she would be saying, Probably last year,

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Speaker 6: debt as a percentage of GDP remained level for the

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Speaker 6: first time, she would say in six years, spending as

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Speaker 6: a percentage of GDP foul. As she said, their physical

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Speaker 6: policy is to return the books to surplus and bend

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Speaker 6: the debt curved down. Well, that's what you'll be saying,

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Speaker 6: no doubt, promoting that next week. So that is her argument.

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Speaker 6: But she's more than happy to have Ruth Richardson debate

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Speaker 6: it with her.

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Speaker 7: She's looking in the shadows behind this campaign and what

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Speaker 7: she needs to desfront up. She needs to put her

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Speaker 7: face to the arguments. She needs to have the debate

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Speaker 7: with me. But what I want is a straight up,

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Speaker 7: honest debate to really analyze some of the claims that

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Speaker 7: she and her associates are making, to argue about actually

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Speaker 7: what the impact of some of the things that she

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Speaker 7: is calling for would be on everyday New Zealanders and

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Speaker 7: their families to test what her tolerance for human misery is.

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Speaker 6: See so you can see what the way this is

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Speaker 6: going to shape harp and one is going to be kind,

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Speaker 6: the other is cruel. The cruel one is Ruth Richardson.

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Speaker 6: And I was messaging Nikola Willis today and she said

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Speaker 6: she's so keen on doing it next week, and she'll

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Speaker 6: do it on Thursday after the half year fiscal update.

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Speaker 6: Now you know that could not be that great for

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Speaker 6: the government.

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Speaker 2: Nevertheless, she'll push again, Yes, exactly great for Ruth. And

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Speaker 2: there was talk she wanted to push the debate out

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Speaker 2: till next year. I said to you, I said, this

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Speaker 2: is getting ridiculous, honestly that no one's that interesting like it.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, it's interesting. I will be watching.

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Speaker 6: Yes, of course we.

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Speaker 2: Are tragic, but I mean it's not. And also PM

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Speaker 2: wants a clear runway for it, you know, don't kick

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Speaker 2: the year off. Doesn't want Ruth and Nickler going hammer

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Speaker 2: and tongs. No, anyway, what's happening in the Parliament.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Electoral Changes Bill, it's before the House under

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Speaker 6: urgency that basically it sets a much earlier deadline for

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Speaker 6: enrolling to vote thirteen days before the election next year,

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Speaker 6: and also disqualified disqualifies all sentenced prisoners. Before the Labor

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Speaker 6: Party introduced three years, if you're three years in under

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Speaker 6: in prison, you could vote. Well, this bill will do

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Speaker 6: away with that. The Maldi Party's new MP your one,

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Speaker 6: your mate. She hasn't been expelled yet, incidentally, or any.

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Speaker 2: One of the few left.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. She didn't make much headway with

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Speaker 6: her argument in Parliament this afternoon that it's unfair to

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Speaker 6: make people in roll thirteen days before the election, and

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Speaker 6: she was also upset that prisoners will be prevented from voting.

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Speaker 14: Does the Minister dispute evidence that shows that to nying

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Speaker 14: prisoners the right to vote undermines rehabilitation goals, increases social

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Speaker 14: exclusion and ultimately increases the risk of offending.

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Speaker 15: Well, of course, I tend to think more about the

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Speaker 15: needs of the victims of crime. Currently, it is the

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Speaker 15: law that if you're in prison for three years or more,

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Speaker 15: you lose your vote, and we are extending that earlier,

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Speaker 15: and we think that's fully justified.

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Speaker 9: David Simol does he believe that new Zealanders of all

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Speaker 9: races are equally capable of fulfilling this basic requirement.

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Speaker 15: Yes, and I have always been troubled by a particular

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Speaker 15: party claiming that their voters are disadvantaged by any changes

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Speaker 15: which would imply that their voters are less capable than

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Speaker 15: other voters of getting themselves enrolled, which is a strange

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Speaker 15: way to talk about your voters.

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Speaker 6: So with that already, didn't ask anymore interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, you say, she's my friend, and she is,

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Speaker 2: and she was, but I have I tell you what

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Speaker 2: tried to get her on the show a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Very just silence.

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Speaker 6: So much for friendship radio silence.

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Speaker 2: Normally when you go into politics, you're chomping at the

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Speaker 2: bit to talk.

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Speaker 6: Totally part of the marketing part. You never know whether

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Speaker 6: you're Arthur or Martha, or whether you've got a seat or.

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Speaker 2: Not exactly and who's pulling the strings now very quickly

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Speaker 2: has new visa policy. This is paying dividends.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's just it's a good you know, to me,

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Speaker 6: it makes sense that if you've got a visa and

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Speaker 6: you come from China or the Pacific to visit Australia

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Speaker 6: and their visa requirements are quite strict. Then the new

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Speaker 6: visa requirement will to allow them to come on to

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Speaker 6: New Zealand without having to go through the paperwork. Again, well,

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Speaker 6: that's seen in the past month ten thousand people coming

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Speaker 6: into the country and we're going to see many, many more. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: the point that the Immigration Minister made was that the

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Speaker 6: strong interest in the South Island in particular for three

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Speaker 6: percent of Chinese and Pacific visitors are going to christ

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Speaker 6: Church and onto Queenstown. So it's a very good policy

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Speaker 6: of the.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely why not just piggyback hole exactly, very good to

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Speaker 2: see your Barry Soaper Politics eight minutes to five News

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Speaker 2: Talk ZBB, Simmy and Brown. After five, by the way,

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Speaker 2: on this new cancer report out today, basically not more

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Speaker 2: of us will get cancer, but there will be a

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Speaker 2: lot more cancer in New Zealand, I'll explain that after five.

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Speaker 1: Your home for the big names in sport. It's the

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 16: Mark Cuban, the US billionaire businessman has his hands in

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Speaker 16: all sorts of pies, tech, media, health, insurance, the NBA

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Speaker 16: and Mark Cubans does Mike great to have.

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Speaker 4: You on the show.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, my pleasure, Heather, But I got to show you

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Speaker 17: what I'm wearing.

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Speaker 4: Go to represent lovely all Blacks Jersey.

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Speaker 17: I've been a rugby player fan since I've been eighteen

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Speaker 17: years old, so I've got a little collection.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I need to borrow your brain for this

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Speaker 2: because you famously turned around the Dallas Mavericks when you

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Speaker 2: bought it, right, So Rudby's in a really difficult position

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Speaker 2: where it's just not making money.

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Speaker 4: What would you do to say this?

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Speaker 17: It's hard, right, but you've got to make it more

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Speaker 17: fun in the stands because it's not as much a

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Speaker 17: spectacle when you go to a match.

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Speaker 1: Hither Dup c Ellen on the mic Hosking Breakfast Back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at six am with Bailey's Real Estate on News

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Speaker 1: Talks Dead.

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Speaker 2: B jeez, we've been doing a lot of news five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from five on the Caribbean, on South America,

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Speaker 2: Central America, of Late Heaven. We thanks to Trump and

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Speaker 2: where he's facing putting his international eye is basically and

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Speaker 2: is going backyard at the moment. In Mexico, there was

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Speaker 2: a great story out of Mexico yesterday which was Shinbaum,

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Speaker 2: who's the president elected last year. You'll know her anyway,

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Speaker 2: Gang violence is a big problem in Mexico. Homicide rate,

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Speaker 2: it's been going up for years. Anyway, she comes out

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Speaker 2: and says, I've got the homicide rate down almost forty percent.

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Speaker 2: I know, incredible, A thirty seven percent reduction in daily killings.

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Speaker 2: They reckon fifty five per day in November. That is

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Speaker 2: down from eighty seven last September, which was the average

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Speaker 2: for that time period. Puts out a press release, you know,

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Speaker 2: has a press conference. Everybody's happy, and then actually they

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Speaker 2: come out and say, yes, the murders are down. But actually,

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Speaker 2: and here's the trick with statistics, people being disappeared has

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Speaker 2: gone up, so they may you know, people may be

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Speaker 2: still being killed, but they're just hiding the bodies better.

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Speaker 2: That's what the critics are saying. To Venezuela. The President,

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Maduro, has taken to singing when it comes to

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Speaker 2: diplomacy with America. He was at a rally when he

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Speaker 2: said to American citizens who are against the war, I

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Speaker 2: respond with a very famous song.

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Speaker 9: Dong worry, be happy, Lola la la.

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Speaker 6: Long worry be happy loa.

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Speaker 8: Jess.

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Speaker 2: Not one now you would vote that guy out, except,

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Speaker 2: of course you can't, can you? These Talks. He'd be

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Speaker 2: Simeon Brown NIXT.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find the facts.

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Speaker 4: And give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: Good Thanks seven half the Fire. The new report from

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Speaker 2: the Cancer Control Agency reckons the number of people diagnosed

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Speaker 2: in this country with cancer is going to double in

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Speaker 2: the next two decades. More than half of these cases,

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Speaker 2: more than half completely preventable if people would just eat healthier,

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Speaker 2: exercise more, stop drinking and put down the fags. Health Minister,

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Speaker 2: Simeon Brown is with me now evening, Minister good evening.

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Speaker 2: So in terms of the increase, is this because we're

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Speaker 2: going to have more people therefore we'll have more people

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Speaker 2: being diagnosed, or is the rate actually going to increase.

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Speaker 18: So if you look at the incident's incident rate, it's

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Speaker 18: effectively that has flatlined over the last twenty years. If

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Speaker 18: you look at the report and actually slightly decreased. What

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Speaker 18: we've got, though, is we've got an aging population and

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Speaker 18: a growing population. So this increase in the number of

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Speaker 18: cancer diagnoses is primarily being driven by a growing elderly

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Speaker 18: population and also a growing population. That's what's driving the increase,

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Speaker 18: and that's why we have to continue to invest to

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Speaker 18: ensure that we have more access to cancer treatments, cancer medicines, diagnoses,

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Speaker 18: and all of the things that this report is highlighted.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's not like there's a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: new scary cancers on the horizon around the corner.

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Speaker 18: No, not at all. That's not what that report is saying.

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Speaker 18: Report is very clearly saying that as we have an

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Speaker 18: aging population in a growing popular there's going to be

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Speaker 18: more people getting More people are getting cancer, but the

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Speaker 18: actual incident rate isn't what's driving that increase. And so

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Speaker 18: as government, we're very focused on making sure expanding access

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Speaker 18: to cancer medicines, expanding access to testing, diagnoses, and all

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Speaker 18: of those treatments that are required so that people can

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Speaker 18: get that access that they need.

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Speaker 2: Half the cases are preventable smoking, eating badly, not exercising,

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Speaker 2: drinking booze, and yet we still do it.

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Speaker 18: Well, look, at the end of the day, people make choices.

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Speaker 18: But I think what this report highlights is the impact

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Speaker 18: of people's choices, and people do need to take element

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Speaker 18: of personal responsibility, and so I think it does highlight

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Speaker 18: the importance of you know, of all of those factors

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Speaker 18: and the importance and moderation. But look, ultimately people people

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Speaker 18: do make choices in their day to day lives. So

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Speaker 18: I'm not here to judge people's individual choices, but it's

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Speaker 18: also really important that we do highlight that people are

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Speaker 18: aware of that and obviously they can then decisions as

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Speaker 18: to how they live their lives in order to live

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Speaker 18: a healthier life and to produce their own risk of

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Speaker 18: contracting cancer.

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Speaker 2: Do you have it? Do you personally think about do

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Speaker 2: you worry about getting cancer? I mean, you're not a

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Speaker 2: big drinker, a smoker, or you know you're not going

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Speaker 2: through CAFC drive through every second day, are you, Minister?

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Speaker 18: No, not at all, not at all. But look, I mean,

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Speaker 18: as the Minister of Health, I've been in the role

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Speaker 18: now for you know, ten to eleven months. I must

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Speaker 18: say my own mortality is something I think a lot

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Speaker 18: more about them than I did in previous roles because

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Speaker 18: of obviously the topics. But look, cancer is a really

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Speaker 18: important issue for so many New Zealanders. Everyone knows someone

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Speaker 18: who's either been diagnosed with they've lost a loved one

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Speaker 18: or they maybe may going through that journey themselves. What's

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Speaker 18: important is the government is that we are really focused

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Speaker 18: on improving cancer outcomes. The report does highlight that we

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Speaker 18: are seeing improved outcomes here in New Zealand. Though we

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Speaker 18: have a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Work to do, we certainly do. Minister, appreciate your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Seeing Brown. The Health Minister time is ten

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Speaker 2: after five. If you head into the US next year

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Speaker 2: for a holiday, you might have to give border officials

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Speaker 2: there your social media details first. So the Americans, the

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Speaker 2: White House wants people from visa waiver countries like ours

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Speaker 2: to disclose five years of social media history. This is

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Speaker 2: part of getting your STRA application. So it's just tourism.

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Speaker 2: You're not moving there, it's tourism. Brian Hunt is a

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Speaker 2: US immigration lawyer, formerly with Homeland Security. Brian, Hello, good day, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Do they want in terms of

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Speaker 2: what they want from my social media account? Will they

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Speaker 2: want passwords? Or is this all just public page information?

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Speaker 19: Well, what they're asking for is disclosure of the identifiers

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Speaker 19: for social media and it doesn't go into the kind

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Speaker 19: of detail to say whether the or looking for anything

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Speaker 19: anything that has passwords. But if we look at what's

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Speaker 19: been happening with social media at other US agencies. For example,

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Speaker 19: when students are applying for a student visa to come

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Speaker 19: to the United States, they're requiring disclosure of the social

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Speaker 19: media identifiers and that they make those accounts public so

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Speaker 19: they can go look at them if they choose to.

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Speaker 2: So if my account right now, like an Instagram account

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Speaker 2: or a TikTok account, is private, they might ask that

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Speaker 2: it's made public so that they can search it.

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Speaker 19: That's what I expect, And the reason the reason they

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Speaker 19: don't know the details is just to clarify. This is

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Speaker 19: a notice of an intent to collect this information. So

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Speaker 19: under US law, federal agencies that they have forms, and

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Speaker 19: this ester program is considered a form for purposes of

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Speaker 19: this law. But anytime an agency makes changes to a form,

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Speaker 19: they have to provide a notice and an ability for

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Speaker 19: anyone who wants to send in comments. So what published

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Speaker 19: today was their intent too within in sixty days or

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Speaker 19: more to begin this collection?

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Speaker 2: Brian, What do they look at? What are they looking for? Specifically?

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Speaker 2: I love isis or something?

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Speaker 19: Presumably well, and this is another situation where we can

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Speaker 19: kind of look at the clues to predict what what

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Speaker 19: they're looking for. But what this announcement actually says is

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Speaker 19: simply that they're adding social media is a mandatory data

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Speaker 19: element on the collection. Now it does say in order

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Speaker 19: to comply with Executtive Order one for one six one.

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Speaker 19: And we know that there's two other agencies here, the

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Speaker 19: State Department and the US Citizenship and Immigration Services, who

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Speaker 19: are also implementing that same executive order and asking for

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Speaker 19: social media and they have given more details. So I think,

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Speaker 19: you know, at least I'm assuming they're going to follow

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Speaker 19: what the other agencies are doing when they collected more

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Speaker 19: social media information and it's under that same executive order, Bryant,

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Speaker 19: and with that go ahead.

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Speaker 2: No, I just want to know, from your perspective generally

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Speaker 2: to people in New Zealand who might be thinking of

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Speaker 2: going to America, is it a dumb idea to write

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Speaker 2: negative things about Donald Trump?

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Speaker 11: You know, it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 19: I really don't expect that's going to be an issue.

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Speaker 19: What they say they're looking for is with the other

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Speaker 19: agencies of they're looking for is anti Semitic. They talk

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Speaker 19: about saying anti Semitic things on social media, but in

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Speaker 19: the same language. They use the word extremists and terrorists,

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Speaker 19: so I think they're looking for pretty extreme language when

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Speaker 19: it comes to anti Semitism. And then they also said

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Speaker 19: they're vetting for anti American activity. But if we look

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Speaker 19: at what they're looking for with anti semitism again, I

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Speaker 19: think they're looking for some pretty pretty extreme kind of

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Speaker 19: statements that involve terrorism or violence.

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Speaker 2: All right, and so good to know, Brian. I really

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Brian Hunt. He's US

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Speaker 2: immigration lawyer formerly with Homeland Security. Times called to past five.

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Speaker 2: Now I've been talking about the cancer situation.

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Speaker 19: So it is.

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Speaker 2: The cancer pool came out just back to some brown

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Speaker 2: about it, and the number of people who will be

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Speaker 2: diagnosed with cancer in the next ten to twenty years

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Speaker 2: is going to go up, but mainly because we're getting older. Now.

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Speaker 2: Dick Van Dyke, who you will know from Mary Poppins.

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Speaker 1: Jim Jimmy Jim Jim Cherry us we bet as lucky

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Speaker 1: as lucky, come being Jim Jimminy, Jim Jimminy.

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Speaker 2: To the titty Bang Bang as well. I mean, we'll

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Speaker 2: rap sheet as long as you're umed. He's come out

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Speaker 2: and done an interview. So he's turning one hundred on

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Speaker 2: December thirteen, So in a couple of days, he turns

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Speaker 2: one hundred, and he's doing interviews and he looks great

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Speaker 2: and he's talking. He's got all his marbles, everything's good.

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Speaker 2: And his secret, he says to getting to one hundred,

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Speaker 2: is getting rid of a couple of vices booze and cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: And so I thought I would share that with you

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Speaker 2: because it ties in quite nicely with the thing we're

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Speaker 2: talking about with cancer. But then you read further down.

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Speaker 2: This is a transcript transcript of his interview, and he says, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I smoked a lot, and he smoked well into his fifties.

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Speaker 2: So what is the lesson? What is the moral of

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Speaker 2: the story? Do you stop?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: Is it just when you stop? The other thing about

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Speaker 2: him is he was an alcoholic, like full blown alcoholic,

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Speaker 2: and went to rehab in nineteen seventy two. So I

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Speaker 2: guess the moral of the story is you shouldn't drink

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Speaker 2: and you shouldn't smoke, But if you do, then you

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Speaker 2: need to quit, you know, you need to quit. Sort

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Speaker 2: have you done? Naughty? Naughty? Jet Star been pulled up

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Speaker 2: by mb for a couple of dodgy sets of scales

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Speaker 2: at Wellington Airport. These are the portable ones that you

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Speaker 2: put your bag on to see if you are under

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Speaker 2: the weight limit. Following a public complaint in September, Jetstar

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Speaker 2: were told to stop using these two particular sets of

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Speaker 2: scales because they failed to meet the legal accuracy requirements. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: Jessica Walker from Consumers will be now, hey, jess good evening,

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Speaker 2: right and this is naughty? How important is it that

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Speaker 2: it gets at scales right?

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Speaker 20: They should definitely be right. There shouldn't be any question.

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Speaker 20: So under the Contumer Guarantees Act, the business needs to

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Speaker 20: execute its services of reasonable care and skill. In this instance,

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Speaker 20: that would mean when you buy your bags, they're going

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Speaker 20: to be weighed correctly. So yeah, they shouldn't be There

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Speaker 20: shouldn't be any concern when you wear your bags that

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Speaker 20: they're going to be massively out of whack.

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Speaker 2: Are they missing? I mean? The airline says that the

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Speaker 2: scales would not have resulted in higher white readings. You know,

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Speaker 2: does it make it any better?

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Speaker 20: That's this is something that's really surprised me. So I

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Speaker 20: understand this afternoon that jet Star statement has been that

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Speaker 20: was it that the wheel alignment was slightly off, but

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Speaker 20: the measurement or the weight of the bags would have

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Speaker 20: been correct. So that makes it really tricky for a consumer.

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Speaker 20: So if Envy's investigation is questioning the accuracy or saying

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Speaker 20: that that it was inaccurate, and our jet Star is

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Speaker 20: saying that the weight would have been correct, as the

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Speaker 20: consumer potentially stuck in the middle of this, it's a

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Speaker 20: really horrible situation to be in because who do you trust?

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Speaker 2: Well? Isn't the message to consumers just if it's jit

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Speaker 2: Star then you need to be careful? And why are

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Speaker 2: your stuff at home?

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Speaker 20: I think that's good advice regardless of who you're flying with.

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Speaker 20: So I reckon having an idea of the weight of

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Speaker 20: your bag before you get to the airport and certainly

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Speaker 20: before you get to the gate where you're almost at

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Speaker 20: the point of no return. That's in everybody's best interests.

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Speaker 20: I mean, having said that, I don't know how many

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Speaker 20: people have got scales at home. I know, for example,

869
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Speaker 20: that I certainly don't have, But I reckon when you

870
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Speaker 20: get to the airport and there are so many scales

871
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Speaker 20: around and about just chuck it on there and see

872
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Speaker 20: what it weighs out before you get to the gate,

873
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Speaker 20: and then find yourself in that situation we're going to

874
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Speaker 20: have to potentially pay out money.

875
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Speaker 2: Is anyone going to get a refund for this? Do

876
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: you reckon?

877
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 20: It's all going to come down to proving it. So

878
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 20: the fact that the end the investigation has found what

879
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Speaker 20: it has and that Jetstar has been directed to stop

880
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Speaker 20: using these scales for the time being, I think that

881
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 20: standard pretty good. Stead If you were to try and

882
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 20: make a claim, ideally would like jet Star to pay

883
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 20: people back if they've been reimbursed. If they can prove

884
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Speaker 20: that they were overcharged, then that would be ideal. But

885
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 20: the fact that Jetstar is saying that people won't overcharged

886
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 20: absolutely makes this trickier. So for people who feel really

887
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Speaker 20: strongly about this, and I understand a lot of people will,

888
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Speaker 20: then you can always go to the dispute tribunal. But

889
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Speaker 20: the thing with that is currently there's a non refundable

890
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 20: failing fee of sixty one dollars, So do you want

891
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Speaker 20: to throw more money at this that's the question.

892
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Speaker 2: No you don't. It's the price of a jet Star fee.

893
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Speaker 2: To begin with, Jessica, thank you just could walk out.

894
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Speaker 2: Consumer in ZID time is twenty three minutes after five.

895
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Speaker 2: Now the earline for its part, this is what they

896
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Speaker 2: said about the scales they see. The two scales at

897
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Speaker 2: Wellington Airport had minor wheel misalignments that caused the scale

898
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Speaker 2: plates to sit unevenly. Very technical. This affected the stability

899
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Speaker 2: of the units, but not they're weighing accuracy, so in

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Speaker 2: other words, they might have looked a bit skill if

901
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Speaker 2: but it was weighing properly, so there was actually no

902
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Speaker 2: reading that was wrong, even though this one person complained

903
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Speaker 2: and it's gone to MB and mvy's given them a

904
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Speaker 2: bit of a warning. Anyway, they've thrown them out or

905
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Speaker 2: they're not using them anymore, these two particular scales at

906
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Speaker 2: Wellington Airport. But I don't know as a consumer. You know,

907
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Speaker 2: with Jetstar they're going to weigh your stuff, so you

908
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Speaker 2: should weigh it at home. And I was talking to Jessica,

909
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Speaker 2: since you didn't have scales at home, doesn't everyone have

910
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Speaker 2: a set of scales at home? No LRD is shaking

911
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Speaker 2: her head. And so you've got scales at home two

912
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Speaker 2: for years? I do, Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 9: I don't really like the numbers that come up on

914
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Speaker 9: them though, I think they might be faulty too.

915
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Speaker 2: Hence there's nothing to you.

916
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Speaker 9: I mean, honestly, you get on the exactly, So why

917
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Speaker 9: does the scales say seventy five? I don't get it.

918
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Speaker 2: You get on the scales and it would just be

919
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: a question mark, is you know? Is there anything there? No, Yeah,

920
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Speaker 2: everyone has scales at home, So just weigh your stuff

921
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Speaker 2: before you go to the airport. Quite easy. Twenty five

922
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Speaker 2: minutes after five News Talks MB can you.

923
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Speaker 4: Trust to get the answers you need?

924
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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen Drive with one

925
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Speaker 1: New Zealand coverage like no one else News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It is five twenty seven. This whole Nicola roof debate

927
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Speaker 2: thing has very quickly become a little bit fascical, I think,

928
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Speaker 2: just a little over the top for this time of year.

929
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Speaker 2: It went from zero to ridiculous in twenty four hours.

930
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Speaker 2: It was a fight started, for goodness sakes, over some

931
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Speaker 2: chocolate fudge, some rather bad tasting chocolate fudge, might add,

932
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Speaker 2: and this debate I thought was just going to be

933
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Speaker 2: a bit of fun, but a Christmas fun, a bit

934
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Speaker 2: of a laugh, a couple of serious jabs about the deficit,

935
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Speaker 2: but sort of a bit of lighthearted banter between a

936
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Speaker 2: current and a former Minister of Finance. But interstage left

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Speaker 2: the rather dramatic debate organizing committee featuring Nikola Willis playing

938
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Speaker 2: herself as Nikola Willis and appearing in the debate as

939
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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis. First I heard that her office was telling

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Speaker 2: media it would be next year, which is outrageous because

941
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Speaker 2: no one's going to care about this next year. We've

942
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Speaker 2: got some of barbecues to get to. It's not like

943
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Speaker 2: you're delaying an all blacks test match, which people might

944
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Speaker 2: care more about. She said she wants all media broadcasting

945
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Speaker 2: the event invited, which is fair. It's good to be

946
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Speaker 2: fair to everybody, and I do like that about what

947
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Speaker 2: she's saying. But she is running around choreographing this thing

948
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Speaker 2: like mister g from Summer Heights High. Honestly, it's outrageous. Anyway,

949
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Speaker 2: I'll still be watching it's happening next week. I am

950
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Speaker 2: told it will be happening out of Wellington, happening out

951
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Speaker 2: of Parliament and everyone will have a chance to be

952
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Speaker 2: able to watch it somehow I'm not quite sure at

953
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Speaker 2: this point just how, but we will be there. We

954
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Speaker 2: will be watching. Did it need all the fuss? In

955
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Speaker 2: the meantime, raym Bridge. After five, I will get to

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Speaker 2: the panel the huddle, I should say very shortly. You're

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Speaker 2: on newstalks in'b.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home it's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 1: hither duplessy Ellen drive with one New zealand tens of

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Speaker 1: power of satellite mobile News TALKSBB.

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Speaker 2: Beginning to look a lot like Smart twenty three away

963
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Speaker 2: from six year on News Talks MB for your Thursday evening.

964
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Speaker 2: Great to have your company. We'll get to the huddle

965
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Speaker 2: in just the second Big Stories of the day with

966
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Speaker 2: Bridget Morton and Allie Jones. And after six, well after six,

967
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Speaker 2: we'll talk more about the FED, because the FED has

968
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Speaker 2: come out today and they have cut by a quarter

969
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Speaker 2: of a percent. They're expected to do this. This is

970
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Speaker 2: over in the US, lowest level now in three years.

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Speaker 2: Over there the ranges three and a half to three

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Speaker 2: point seventy five percent. Hard job that they have got

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Speaker 2: on their hands because you've got jobs week, but you've

974
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Speaker 2: got prices rising. So this will probably be their final

975
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Speaker 2: it's their third and probably final cutting of the cycle.

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Speaker 2: We'll have more on the Business Hour after six this

977
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Speaker 2: evening bread staying in the US just for a second.

978
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Speaker 2: So the Trump administration has brought its war on DEI

979
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Speaker 2: to a kind of unexpected battlefront FOMPS, I know, sounds weird.

980
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Speaker 2: US diplomats switched from using Times New Roman to Calibri

981
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Speaker 2: under the Biden administration, and so now Marco Rubio comes out.

982
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Speaker 2: He says this was a wasteful diversity initiative and it's

983
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Speaker 2: told diplomats to switch back to using Times New Roman.

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Speaker 2: Alistair McCready is a typeface designer at Monolith and joins

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Speaker 2: me now, good evening, Sure how you doing very well?

986
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Alistair, thanks for being on the show. Did

987
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Speaker 2: the did the Biden administration do this for a particular reason?

988
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Speaker 2: Apparently it was something to do with people who've got

989
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Speaker 2: visual disabilities? Is that is that an actual thing?

990
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Speaker 4: Oh?

991
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Speaker 2: Certainly.

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Speaker 21: Yeah. Typeface is a kind of a technology. I mean,

993
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Speaker 21: so it was lettering in type If you think of

994
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Speaker 21: any letter ever interpreted or read had to be created

995
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Speaker 21: in some way, shape or form. So yeaheople are always

996
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 21: pushing that industry further. And the font they chose to

997
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Speaker 21: switch to, Calibri outdates times in New Roman by about

998
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Speaker 21: I don't know, maybe seventy years, seventy five years or so.

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Speaker 21: So it's a lot more contemporary, a lot more clearer.

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Speaker 21: It was built for a different context, in a different time,

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Speaker 21: and therefore it's just it's more suited to, Yeah, a

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Speaker 21: wider range of I guess readers of different visual impairments.

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Speaker 2: So if you're not visually impaired, is that is it

1004
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: harder for those people to read it? Or is it

1005
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Speaker 2: just you wouldn't notice.

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Speaker 21: I think that's probably a bit relative to the individual.

1007
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Speaker 21: I mean, there's all sorts of things that go into reading,

1008
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Speaker 21: not just the way you see or how clearly you

1009
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Speaker 21: can see. It's how you interpret letters and their shapes

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Speaker 21: and times in New Roman was created in the thirties

1011
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Speaker 21: for a newspaper. It was meant to be printed, and

1012
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Speaker 21: over the years it's been reconstructed in various forms, and

1013
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Speaker 21: now it's what we know is digital. And now you've

1014
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Speaker 21: got Calibri, which was created by Microsoft for Windows Vista.

1015
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Speaker 21: It must have been early two thousands as part of

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Speaker 21: a group of typefaces they made and it kind of

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Speaker 21: became the default, actually replaced Times New Roman and Microsoft Word.

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Speaker 21: So you know for that big time gap that was

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Speaker 21: back in two thousand and say, two thousand and six. Yeah,

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Speaker 21: and now it's nowadays what we know is today. But

1021
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Speaker 21: the reason they probably chose either or of the typefaces

1022
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Speaker 21: just because there are most OS platforms now on computers worldwide.

1023
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Speaker 21: You don't have to buy them and install them yourselves,

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Speaker 21: so they're very accessible elistair in.

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Speaker 2: Terms of I mean, then the thirties Times New Roman

1026
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Speaker 2: came about in terms of print, was that that was

1027
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Speaker 2: everyone using Times New Roman or were there other ones

1028
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Speaker 2: out there?

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Speaker 11: There's there's a lot out there.

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Speaker 21: There was an enormous industry, you know, huge factories casting

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Speaker 21: things physically, you know, they're called foundriies because they're literally

1032
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Speaker 21: casted hot metal or carved wood, and it was it

1033
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Speaker 21: was all printing. We didn't have screens, we didn't have

1034
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Speaker 21: digital So Times New Roman called Times because it was

1035
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Speaker 21: created for the Times newspaper in London specifically, and then

1036
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Speaker 21: over the years it sort of evolved into what we

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Speaker 21: know of it now. So you know, you can imagine

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Speaker 21: they're two different fonts in regards to you know, times

1039
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Speaker 21: New Roman has what we have serif versions. So serifs

1040
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Speaker 21: are basically the little feet at the bottom of the letters,

1041
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Speaker 21: and then you've got kaliviri, which is a Sands serif,

1042
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Speaker 21: which just basically means without and they're a lot more contemporary, considered, cleaner,

1043
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Speaker 21: more legible.

1044
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your favorite alistair? What do you use?

1045
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Speaker 21: I draw my own, so I don't really Uh, you

1046
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Speaker 21: pick your kids, you know.

1047
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: If you write an email, you use something that you've designed,

1048
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Speaker 2: that you've come up with.

1049
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Speaker 21: Not specifically. So the fonts are essentially software. So you

1050
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Speaker 21: have the typeface, which is a design, and then a

1051
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Speaker 21: font is the software that drives that design. So the

1052
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Speaker 21: fonts are what we have on our computers. And if

1053
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Speaker 21: a computer doesn't have a font installed, then it won't

1054
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Speaker 21: recognize it unless it's on say a.

1055
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Speaker 11: Website or something.

1056
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Speaker 2: Yeah, first, notting elis.

1057
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Speaker 21: I can't send it in a font I want and

1058
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Speaker 21: expect him to see it as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of it. Ah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, very very okay, Alis, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Alison mccredia, who's a typeface designer at Monolith. It is

1062
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Speaker 2: eighteen minutes away from six The Huddle.

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Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name you can

1064
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Speaker 1: trust locally and.

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Speaker 2: Globally, joining me the sevening Bridget Morton, who is a

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Speaker 2: lawyer with Frank's Ogilvy and Ellie Jones read pr good evening, gay,

1067
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Speaker 2: how I am a good thank you. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: a taxpayers Union fudge stunt, the false flag event if

1069
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Speaker 2: that's what if you want to listen to the unions,

1070
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: what do we think? Bridget has all gotten a bit

1071
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Speaker 2: weird in my mind, but it's happening next week apparently.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's a classic pre Christmas you know,

1073
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Speaker 16: a bit of noise to go around. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 16: sort of in the middle of here, stuck in the

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Speaker 16: fudge Taxpas Union as a client of mine, whereas Nichola

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Speaker 16: Willis have been campaigned chair for the last couple of elections,

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Speaker 16: so you know, probably could have lined down the middle.

1078
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Speaker 16: But I do think this budge stunt actually benefits them both,

1079
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Speaker 16: you know, for the tax those Union, that's really talking

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Speaker 16: to their base about holding the government to account. And

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Speaker 16: what's been spend, debt levels and all of that sort

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Speaker 16: of thing, because they do want lower taxes, and for

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Speaker 16: Nicola Willis, it gives her a chance to sort of

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Speaker 16: differentiate herself from that mother ll budget which is not

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Speaker 16: going to be as tough as national wars in the nineties,

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Speaker 16: and allows her to sort of show them modern faith

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Speaker 16: of the national partting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yesterday I said it was a win win,

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Speaker 2: like she even if she loses, she wins because she

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Speaker 2: looks well, not as radical as with Richardson.

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Speaker 22: Right, Ellie, Yeah, and also well, the only thing is

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Speaker 22: I want to start off by saying I.

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Speaker 23: Don't have a conflict.

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Speaker 22: I am feeling quite nauseous from having eaten several pieces

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Speaker 22: of Nicholas fudge, which arrived today from Jordan Williams. So

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Speaker 22: thank you for that.

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Speaker 12: I listen.

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Speaker 22: I hear what Bridget's saying, and I agree from a

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Speaker 22: political perspective, and she's far more qualified to talk on that.

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Speaker 22: I wanted to talk about the marketing. I think it's

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Speaker 22: absolutely outstanding. It's really witty, funny, clever. I mean, on

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Speaker 22: the lid of the box that says the aroma will

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Speaker 22: hit you first, a warm lend of heroic assumptions and

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Speaker 22: overconfidence whiped together with more debt and denial than ever before.

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Speaker 22: And I mean the whole thing. It's I think it's

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Speaker 22: a masterclass in marketing, and I'm really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 12: I heard what you.

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Speaker 22: Said earlier, Ryan, I love this stuff and I get

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00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 22: really sick and tired of she said, she said stuff

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Speaker 22: in the news, and it runs for two or three days,

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Speaker 22: and you never get a conversation where someone puts something

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Speaker 22: to someone, they respond to it, and then someone else

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Speaker 22: responds again. This means that they can actually have a

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Speaker 22: conversation and when one of them calls BS, the other

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Speaker 22: one can say why and this is how? And so

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Speaker 22: I'm really looking forward. I heard you say, you know,

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Speaker 22: you think it's a bit of BS, but I'll be watching.

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Speaker 2: No exactly, but I think I'm What I mean by

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Speaker 2: that is it's about It might be more of a

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Speaker 2: Beltway thing, this particular debate than you might expect from

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Speaker 2: a you know, a labor on national one. But on

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Speaker 2: the I agree with you on the marketing. Fantastic marketing, Ellie,

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Speaker 2: and done because I haven't eaten any of the chocolate

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Speaker 2: myself yet. But I've saved all the whole thing, the box,

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Speaker 2: the whole kitten kaboodle, and I'm giving it to my

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Speaker 2: mother in law for Christmas because she loves politics. He's

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Speaker 2: really into this kind of thing, so I think she's

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Speaker 2: going to absolutely love it. Like it's quite well done

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Speaker 2: or the whole thing.

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Speaker 22: It's absolutely stunning.

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Speaker 12: We've seen a video.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know it was a video.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, there's an AI created video.

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Speaker 16: Have you seen a Bridget Yeah, yeah I have.

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Speaker 12: Do you have created?

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Speaker 9: Probably anyway, but.

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Speaker 22: No, I have a look because it's actually a bit scary,

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Speaker 22: the only thing I'll say about that. And with the videos,

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Speaker 22: we do need to talk about these issues seriously, and

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Speaker 22: I'd hate this to turn into a you know, a

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Speaker 22: sort of.

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Speaker 16: A cat fight.

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Speaker 22: Silly you know, the marketing and the fun of it

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Speaker 22: overwhelms some of the really serious issues.

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Speaker 18: I hope that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Alien Bridge it back in the second on the Huddle.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, the only

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Speaker 1: truly global brand.

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Speaker 2: Bridget more than Ellie Jones on the Huddle tonight, Hey,

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Speaker 2: how do we feel Bridge about going to the US

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Speaker 2: If you're going to have to hand over your social

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Speaker 2: media handle for the last five years, and apparently we

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Speaker 2: spoke to a lawyer. If your profile is currently private,

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Speaker 2: they might ask you to make it public so that

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Speaker 2: they can scan it what you've posted, and then you

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Speaker 2: can make it private again after that. Does it How

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Speaker 2: would you feel going to the US under those circumstances.

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Speaker 16: Oh, it's completely off putting. I think a lot of

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Speaker 16: people wouldn't want to do that. I think it's not

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Speaker 16: just the fact of the privacy element and the concern

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Speaker 16: that you may have inevnently said something in the last

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Speaker 16: five years that they're going to take an issue with.

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Speaker 16: There's also just the mechanics of it. Most of us

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Speaker 16: when we travel want to have it as easy as possible.

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Speaker 16: If you think that you're going to be caught up

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Speaker 16: because somebody's going to be scrolling all the ways back,

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Speaker 16: you know, through your Instagram, was sitting in LA, it's

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Speaker 16: probably not going to go through the US, or you're

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Speaker 16: going to choose to go somewhere else. If you've got

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Speaker 16: to live in an amount of time for holiday, it

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Speaker 16: just seems completely ridiculous. And you look at the justification

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Speaker 16: for it is you know that there's been a foreign

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Speaker 16: person who you know, has called time in the USC

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Speaker 16: for with suddenly our social media accounts need to be

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Speaker 16: open to access. I just don't think that they're interested

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Speaker 16: in my tramping photo. That's complete other range.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, but totally puts me off

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Speaker 2: the idea of even transitting through the Alliah.

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Speaker 22: Well, if we wanted another reason, or even needed another

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Speaker 22: reason not to go to the US, this is it.

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Speaker 22: Surely I totally agree with what you're saying. I mean,

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Speaker 22: just the thought of it. It feels quite violating really,

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Speaker 22: And you know, I know people don't want to see

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Speaker 22: me singing karaoke at last year's Christmas party, but you know,

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Speaker 22: there's a lot of stuff in there about friends that

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Speaker 22: we've lost, and just a lot of really personal stuff.

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Speaker 22: I just think it's absolutely outrageous. Oh, I wouldn't go

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Speaker 22: to the States. Don't need to go to the States,

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Speaker 22: so certainly wouldn't. This is another reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree with you, right this cancer

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Speaker 2: diagnosis story. So over the next twenty years, we will

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Speaker 2: see a fifty percent increase in cancer diagnoses, and half

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Speaker 2: will be because of preventable, preventable cancers. I we're drinking

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Speaker 2: we're smoking, we're eating the wrong foods, bridget Do we

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Speaker 2: I mean we know this, Like people say, do we

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Speaker 2: need an education campaign? Do we need an education campaign?

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Speaker 2: Or do we already know what's bad for us? And

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Speaker 2: we do it anyway because that's just part of living well.

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Speaker 16: I think there's an element of sort of self responsibility.

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Speaker 16: But if you actually look at some of those education

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Speaker 16: campaigns we've had previously, they have led to change. You know,

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Speaker 16: smoking rates are very very low compared to what they

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Speaker 16: used to be. Also, look at the beach this summer.

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Speaker 16: You know, every kid will be wearing a rash shirt.

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Speaker 16: Will we have a hat on? Have suns going on?

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Speaker 16: We've completely changed our attitude to sort of sun and

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Speaker 16: I think we are changing our attitudes and learning more

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Speaker 16: and more about you know, the difference is sometimes of

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Speaker 16: processed meats or you know, excess alcohol. I think those

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Speaker 16: things are changing, but they do require a bit of

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Speaker 16: cultural change, and so I don't think it's necessarily fair

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Speaker 16: to say that, you know, we all know this, we

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Speaker 16: do need sometimes those reminders to kind of go, is

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Speaker 16: this actually the right thing for you to do in

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Speaker 16: the long term, Ellie.

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Speaker 22: I think it's a combination of things. I think, yes,

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Speaker 22: it's certainly self responsibility, but I think, as some of

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Speaker 22: the media coverage around this has said, prevention is the

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Speaker 22: key here, and in fact the story I was reading

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Speaker 22: says improved prevention efforts could see between eighty and fourteen

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Speaker 22: thousand fure cancer diagnoses each year. And I think the

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01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 22: other thing with prevention to remember is that prevention is

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Speaker 22: all about catching something.

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Speaker 9: Early as well.

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Speaker 22: You know, we've all heard the saying and an ounce

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01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 22: of prevention is worse. I think it's a pound of cure,

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Speaker 22: and we really need to shore up our frontline primary

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Speaker 22: health services. That's where this prevention and nipping these things

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Speaker 22: in the bud happens. So I agree that we've got

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Speaker 22: to be more responsible, but it's actually more than that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys tonight. Thank you Bridget Morton, lawyer

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Speaker 2: at Frank's Ogilvy, and Ellie Jones from red PR on

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Speaker 2: the huddle. It is eight minutes away from six. We've

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Speaker 2: had loads of texts come in thank you, but nice

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Speaker 2: to have you both on the show. We had loads

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Speaker 2: of texts coming on the Jet Star situation and the

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Speaker 2: scales and how much does your bag weigh? Ryan it's

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: not about weighing. This is from James. I thought it

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: was an interesting one. Not about weighing at home. This

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Speaker 2: is the way you bags at home before you go

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Speaker 2: to the airport, or even at the airport. It's the

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01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: gate scales that are the issue. Even if every other

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01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: set up until now says it's underweight. If those say

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01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: it's over, you either pay a bunch of money or

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Speaker 2: you don't fly. I've been caught an arguments far too

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01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: often to ever trust them again. Back to in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand for me, says James. James. The thing is in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's flights are so much more expensive than Jet Stars.

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Speaker 2: You'll probably better to get a jet Star flight and

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Speaker 2: then just add extra baggage, you know, if you're on

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Speaker 2: the if you're on the CUSP add extra baggage. Is

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Speaker 2: it that hard? I don't know. I don't understand. Like

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Speaker 2: they tell you very clearly that they are very strict

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Speaker 2: on this, and it's like timings. You know, you've got

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Speaker 2: to get there bang on time or early if it's

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Speaker 2: a Jet Star flight, because they've just closed the door

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Speaker 2: in your face. They don't really care. It's not that

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Speaker 2: kind of airline so I don't know. And also, why

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Speaker 2: are we so consumed with weighing bags when we don't

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Speaker 2: weigh people. I mean the difference in size between you know,

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Speaker 2: you get on a plane, you get on the bus,

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: you walk around the street. You can see it. Some

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01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: people are huge, some people aren't. And how do they

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Speaker 2: know how big? You know? They've got no idea how

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: big you are when you turn up, and yet they

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Speaker 2: want to charge you sixty dollars if you're half a

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Speaker 2: kilo over on your bag. Rubbish.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 2: Four to six News talks It. Mike says Ryan, I

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Speaker 2: have an idea, what about a total weight allowance if

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Speaker 2: you're getting on a plane ninety kilos for you and

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Speaker 2: your bag. Well, we're getting a bit ridiculous now, aren't we.

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Speaker 2: Another person here says the Taxpayers Union never gets a

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: donation from me. Again, I'm not wasting money on fudge,

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: especially not for journal Chris. It's a good point. If

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Speaker 2: you are, I mean to be fair, it's meant to

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01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: be a stunt. It's a publicity stunt, and to get publicity,

1279
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: you need to give the journalist something to talk about.

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Speaker 2: They've given the journal somebody to talk about. It's work,

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01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: hasn't it. Is that not a measure of success. You

1282
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: could argue that they deserve more of your money. Chris, anyway,

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01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: you're on newspaper.

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Speaker 9: Can I assure you that none of the fudge that

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Speaker 9: were sent to us went to waste? This is why

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Speaker 9: I'm having so many issues with the scales myself at

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Speaker 9: the leaven Ah.

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Speaker 2: There's a problem with you or with your gut. I

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Speaker 2: haven't eaten it yet. Is it good? I mean it

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Speaker 2: was fine, ungrateful, ungrateful for the state. Anyway. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Jamie McCAT host of the Country on the Fonterra Payout.

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Speaker 24: Next where Business com meets Insight the Business Hour with

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Speaker 24: Ryan Breach and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance.

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Speaker 4: Your futures in good hands, News.

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Speaker 2: Talks at be.

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Speaker 12: Good evening.

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Speaker 2: It is seven after six. Great to have your company.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to end of Brady out of the UK

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Speaker 2: before seven o'clock. We'll get to Jamie mckaye, host of

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Speaker 2: the Country on Fonterra. They've had their annual meeting in

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Speaker 2: christ Church today. A bit of an outlook on the

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Speaker 2: milk supply both from here and also around the world.

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Speaker 2: And what does it mean for prices, What does it

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Speaker 2: mean importantly for that midpoint of the price range. First though,

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Speaker 2: this is an interesting one. This is about fractional leadership.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of this? Chances are you probably haven't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear about this until for the first time

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Speaker 2: until yesterday. But a key we company that specializes in

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Speaker 2: this new way of company leadership has just landed a

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Speaker 2: pretty big contract with the Singapore government. The company is

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Speaker 2: called Fractional Directory. The CEO is Michelle Aubon and she

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Speaker 2: is with me now, good evening, Yes, hell, oh great

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Speaker 2: to have you on the show. Michelle. First of all,

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Speaker 2: you need to explain us, explain to us what fractional

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Speaker 2: leadership is.

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Speaker 25: Absolutely, it's really something that before about six months ago,

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Speaker 25: most people were asking that constantly, and now we're starting

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Speaker 25: to hear it more and more. And what it really

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Speaker 25: is is it's just using a full time.

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Speaker 16: Leader at a fraction of their capacity.

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Speaker 25: So maybe that's two days a month, four days a week.

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Speaker 25: It's just more or less part time senior leadership.

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Speaker 2: Who are these people? Why are they part time? Why

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Speaker 2: aren't they full time jobs. And are we talking like

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01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: CEOs and CFOs stuff like that.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, so the word part time gets a bit of

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Speaker 25: a bad rap, doesn't it. But the truth is is

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Speaker 25: that actually this is a completely different model. So what

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Speaker 25: happens is that we actually we've been watching this in

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Speaker 25: our directory over the last two years, and two years

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Speaker 25: ago there was forty three publicly operating people and that

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Speaker 25: has fourteen x in two years. And these are these

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Speaker 25: senior most kind of top executives in the company or

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Speaker 25: excuse me, the country who are untethering from the five

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Speaker 25: day work week and going back into companies you know

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Speaker 25: as one or a couple days a week and as

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Speaker 25: kind of senior leaders working just in their expertise is by.

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Speaker 2: Not just consultants business consultants.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, And the common question because everyone's familiar with consulting,

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Speaker 25: but the difference between consulting and fractional is that a

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Speaker 25: fractional leader is fully embedded. So I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 25: A company who's hired a fractional chief marketing officer. Everyone

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Speaker 25: understands the kind of outcomes you'd want, but a fractional

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Speaker 25: chief marketing officer pretty much does the same thing. It's

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Speaker 25: just almost like they're not in the company two days

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Speaker 25: a week, but there were really specific outcome that they

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Speaker 25: only need that kind of reduced time to hit. So

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Speaker 25: we're seeing this be really really effective, and it's not

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Speaker 25: just giving them advice and you know, throwing a PowerPoint

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Speaker 25: over the wall. It's actually being in with the leadership

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Speaker 25: team alongside them, and it's really amazing kind of the

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Speaker 25: effect that we're starting to see this have in New

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Speaker 25: Zealand and around the world.

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Speaker 2: So what's the deal, Michelle, You've got with the Singapore government,

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Speaker 2: what are you actually doing for them?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, so this sup poor government started to see a

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Speaker 25: bit of traction in this model as quite a lot

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Speaker 25: of senior leaders there are either approaching this as a

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Speaker 25: result of mass layoffs, people are going, I want to

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Speaker 25: work in a different model, and we're seeing some of

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Speaker 25: the top talent you know, no longer go back into

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Speaker 25: full time jobs but actually just emerge as fractional leaders.

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Speaker 25: And then the other thing that we're seeing, which is

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Speaker 25: our deal with the government, is we're seeing that when

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Speaker 25: four Singaporeans are actually going to be a retirement age

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Speaker 25: in ten years, and there's these senior leaders who have

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Speaker 25: these big playbooks that have kind of proven out their

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Speaker 25: expertise over their career, and they're going, how can I

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Speaker 25: still you know, be be relevant and be impactful in

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Speaker 25: a company without having to retire. And so the government

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Speaker 25: is basically piloting the model and we're helping them to

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Speaker 25: take fifteen companies through a full placement to actually show

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Speaker 25: the impact that fractional can make instead of have full

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Speaker 25: timely embedded in the company.

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Speaker 2: Michelle, you're the CEO of the Fractional Directory. Are you

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Speaker 2: a fractional CEO? Are you like a full time CEO?

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Speaker 2: And is there not a contradiction if you are?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, you know, it's actually it's a really relevant question

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Speaker 25: because I started as the fractional CEO of our startup

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Speaker 25: and then as we've moved into you know, out of

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Speaker 25: New Zealand and into other countries, we go one full time.

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Speaker 25: But it's true, you actually you can work in either.

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Speaker 2: No fair enough, I didn't wasn't being serious, Michelle. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Michelle Auborne with our CEO of the Fractional Directory. It's

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes.

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Speaker 4: Lapter six Brian Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, this is news out of out of Space and

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Speaker 2: NASA has lost contact with a spacecraft that has orbited

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Speaker 2: Mars from more than a decade. It's called the Maven,

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Speaker 2: and I've always wondered how they do the communications. Well,

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Speaker 2: the Maven apparently quite an important part of this. So

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Speaker 2: if you are communicating between Earth and a something that's

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Speaker 2: orbiting or going around the Red planet, then you would

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Speaker 2: usually do that communication through Maven. And so Maven's just

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Speaker 2: chugging along through space doing her thing, working fine before

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Speaker 2: it went behind Mars. Then it pops out the other

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Speaker 2: side radio silence, and they're not really sure why. So

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Speaker 2: they're trying to figure this out. Yeah, So basically when

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Speaker 2: they put the two Mars rovers up their curiosity and perseverance,

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Speaker 2: the Maven was the communication relay for NASA. So Maven's

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Speaker 2: gone gone quiet, gone dark. The good news is that

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Speaker 2: they do have two other spacecraft around Mars. They've got

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Speaker 2: Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and they've got Mars Odyssey. Those were

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Speaker 2: launched in two thousand and one and two thousand and

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Speaker 2: five respectively, and they will do the communication relay, so

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Speaker 2: we can still communicate with things that are going around Mars,

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Speaker 2: even if Maven for the meantime is a bit quiet.

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Speaker 2: Jamie mckaiye hosted the Country on FONTIRA six thirteen.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupasic Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk z EBB News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: It is caught a past six Now after six thirty,

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Speaker 2: will speak to Simon Watt's local government minister. We basically

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Speaker 2: now have all of the councils coming in. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: my microphone has just done a weird thing. We basically

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Speaker 2: now have all of the councils coming in and saying

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Speaker 2: this is our plan for water, local water done well

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Speaker 2: and we now also know how much it's likely to

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Speaker 2: cost us. So we'll talk to Simon Wat's about that.

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Speaker 2: It is sixteen halfter six.

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Speaker 4: The Rural Report on Heather Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 2: Drive, Jamie McKay's with us host of the Country, Jamie

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Speaker 2: good Evening. Gooday, Ryan, So is a nine dollars milk

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Speaker 2: price on the cards for twenty five twenty six? What

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Speaker 2: do we think?

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Speaker 23: Well, it's not I think or you really, Ryan, it's

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Speaker 23: probably what the experts think. And having just read and

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Speaker 23: reviewed the Rabobank Q four Global Dairy Quarterly Report, a

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Speaker 23: one sentence hit me right between the eyes. This was authored,

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Speaker 23: by the way, by Emma Higgins, who's their senior ag analyst.

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Speaker 23: She wrote, there is elevated risk that the farm gate

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Speaker 23: milk price moves lower across the course of the season,

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Speaker 23: which would mean that the final season payout lands around

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Speaker 23: the nine dollars per kilogram of milk solid mark. So

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Speaker 23: that's not a great number when we started the season

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Speaker 23: with a ten dollar fore cast. Of course, Fonterra has

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Speaker 23: since trimmed that to nine dollars fifty. But if it

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Speaker 23: gets down to nine dollars, well, you know, the margins

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Speaker 23: are getting a bit skinnier there. Because yesterday Dairy and

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Speaker 23: Z came out with their econ tracker, which is their

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Speaker 23: tool for working out how much it costs to produce milk,

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Speaker 23: and they're saying the break even price is eight fifty.

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Speaker 23: So you know, look, ten dollars is great. Nine dollars

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Speaker 23: fifty is okay. Nine dollars jury's out a wee bit

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Speaker 23: on that one. We've still got a long way to go.

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Speaker 23: But the reason all this has happened, Ryan, and this

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Speaker 23: is in the Global Dairy quarterly report as well, is

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Speaker 23: because of stunning. That's the word they've used stunning global

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Speaker 23: milk production growth across the second half of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 23: Right around the world, the EU and E K and

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Speaker 23: UK should I say, have posted their strongest growth since

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Speaker 23: twenty seventeen. For the month of October, US milk flows

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Speaker 23: posted their fifth consecutive month of growth rates over three percent.

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Speaker 23: Here in New Zealand, we're tacking along at about three

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Speaker 23: point four percent ahead of where we were last year.

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Speaker 23: The Big Seven, that's the EU, the US, US, Australia, Brazil,

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Speaker 23: Argentina and Uruguay forecast to finish twenty twenty five up

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Speaker 23: two point two percent year on here. So the guts

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Speaker 23: of it all, Ryan, is, you know, the milk price

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Speaker 23: has gone up. People are around the world, especially in

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Speaker 23: places like the States where grain prices are low, have

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Speaker 23: just moved their production from feeding stuff to feeding other stuff,

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Speaker 23: basically dairy cows, and therein lies the.

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Speaker 2: Problem and then all the milk comes on tap. Now

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Speaker 2: our national lamb crop for the season is up a

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Speaker 2: bit on the previous.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, this is sort of a this is a really

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Speaker 23: good news story, to be honest, Ryan. If you remember

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Speaker 23: back and you're far too young to remember, back to

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Speaker 23: the nineteen eighties. But when Rob Muldoon was in power

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Speaker 23: and we had farming subsidies on a national sheep flock

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Speaker 23: peaked at about over seventy million. Now we've got about

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Speaker 23: twenty three million, twenty three or twenty four million, so

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Speaker 23: we're well more than half. But the national lamb crop

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Speaker 23: is going to be nineteen point sixty six million according

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Speaker 23: to the Beef and Lamb New Zealand latest Lamb Crop Report.

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Speaker 23: That's up about two hundred thousand lambs on last season.

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Speaker 23: But the good news part of the story is a

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Speaker 23: the lambing percentage has improved a whole lot one hundred

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Speaker 23: and thirty one point one percent average across the country.

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Speaker 23: That's amazing when you consider some of the land that

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Speaker 23: they're farming on with these sheep sheep farms, and that's

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Speaker 23: off the back of one point nine percent reduction and

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Speaker 23: breeding you numbers. So the number of lambs processed is

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Speaker 23: probably going to be in line with last year, which

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Speaker 23: was down a million on the year before. And part

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Speaker 23: of the reason for that is even though we've got

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Speaker 23: more lambs, we're only going to process about the same amount.

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Speaker 23: That's because some of those lambs born are going to

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Speaker 23: be retained as you lambs to rebuild the breeding flock.

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Speaker 23: Global lamb supply remains constrained. They're supported by an expected

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Speaker 23: five point eight percent reduction and Australian lamb export availability

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Speaker 23: and continued low New Zealand supply. The guts of all

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Speaker 23: this is that farm gate prices are at historically high

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Speaker 23: levels and probably will remain there at least for this season.

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Speaker 23: Here's the final number for you, Ryan, Lamb is now

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Speaker 23: eleven dollars a kilo milk, or the milk price could

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Speaker 23: be as low as nine dollars a kilo. It's not

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Speaker 23: often that lamb exceedstary. It's a while since we've seen that,

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Speaker 23: So watch the space.

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Speaker 2: Certainly will Jamie thank you for that. Jamie McKay, host

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Speaker 2: of the country. Here on News Talks, Hedb. It is

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Speaker 2: six twenty on your Thursday evening. Great to have your

1503
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 2: company or get to some of your tech's next and

1504
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: a bit of show biz.

1505
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics. It's all

1506
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: on the business hours with Ryan Bridge and Ma's Motor

1507
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance.

1508
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 4: Your futures in good hands. News Talks.

1509
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: That'd be twenty three after six, So the hero's got

1510
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: a story from an OAA that they've done to police.

1511
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: The police when they were looking for Tom Phillips set

1512
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 2: up cameras in the bush to try and find and

1513
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: try and catch them. And they were motion sensor cameras,

1514
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: so if things moved, presumably you'd pick up a possum

1515
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 2: or something, but obviously you'd pick up Tom Phillips and

1516
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: the kids as well if they were in the bush

1517
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: and on the move. So they twenty eight motion sensor

1518
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 2: cameras in the bush. We know that much. They won't

1519
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: tell us where they were because there's obviously ongoing investigation

1520
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: and stuff like that going on, So those things we

1521
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 2: don't know, but we do know there were cameras. We

1522
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: do know they were motion sens and we do actually

1523
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: know that they did pick up Tom and potentially the

1524
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 2: kids at some point, but they just weren't in an

1525
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: area where police could get too easily. So I suppose

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01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 2: you've got this footage, But what I mean, it's not

1527
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 2: like you can send the troops the cavalry in and

1528
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 2: swoop on them quick smart, So wasn't actually very effective

1529
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: obviously in catching them. In fact, nothing they did was

1530
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: very effective in catching them. At all until the fourth

1531
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: year of it was it If we're being honest, twenty

1532
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 2: four minutes after six.

1533
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 4: There's no business like show business.

1534
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: Fucking Rolling Stone magazine has crowned the best Australian and

1535
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: New Zealand songs at the twenty first century so far,

1536
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: settled on the best three hundred songs. G says, who

1537
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: did this? Took them a while? This here is number three,

1538
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: Walking on a Dream by Empire of the Sun. Came

1539
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: out in two thousand and eight, and this is an

1540
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: Australian band for those who aren't familiar, banger of the song.

1541
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: Second spot also a banger. And are we going to

1542
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: win any of these? It's going to be a full

1543
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: Australian street Kylie Bano. This one came out all the

1544
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: way back in two thousand and one. You'll know this one,

1545
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone says. Here's here she is serving sharpened club

1546
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 2: beats that wouldn't have sounded out of place in a

1547
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: German electro cup from the eighties, a style so ahead

1548
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: of its time it seems futuristic now, and doesn't it?

1549
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: Number one, the number one the top song of the

1550
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,879
Speaker 2: last quarter of a century from Australia and New Zealand

1551
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 2: as us.

1552
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 20: Out that kind of loves just a for us, we

1553
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 20: create a different kind of bout Let me be.

1554
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 19: So.

1555
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: Lord's debut song came out in twenty thirteen, Rolling Stone

1556
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: describing it as a zeitgeist grabbing history making hit. The

1557
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: magazine says no other track has reshaped pop music quite

1558
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 2: like Royals.

1559
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 8: I was cractical.

1560
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 17: We count our.

1561
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,480
Speaker 4: Dollars on chain.

1562
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: To the party and there it is a twenty six

1563
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: minutes up six So does that when we took out

1564
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: number one ants, they might have got come for two

1565
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: and three. I'm actually a little bit surprised by walking

1566
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: on a dream by Empire of the Sun, to be

1567
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: honest with you at number three, three hundred songs to

1568
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 2: rank twenty first center. I suppose, yeah, maybe maybe we.

1569
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 9: Don't really who really likes it. It's a personal taste thing.

1570
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 9: But I remember a Vice article from a few years

1571
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 9: ago where they to people who were at an Empire

1572
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 9: of the Sun set at a festival and just interviewed

1573
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 9: them more on why on earth they were there, like.

1574
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: Just and what did they say?

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01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 9: Well, they were all like, yeah, they're great advice. It's like, well,

1576
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 9: are they like, are they really that good? Clearly very divisive.

1577
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: Well, Rolling Stone would be the authority, wouldn't that both

1578
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 2: they know what they're talking about. Twenty seven after six now,

1579
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 2: Simon Watts, the local government minister.

1580
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 7: Next, you can call me creepy.

1581
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: Let me live that fantasy.

1582
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1583
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance, your futures

1584
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: in goodheads used talks.

1585
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 24: It'd be we could be last, last.

1586
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: Nasty twenty five away from the talks. People get you

1587
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: in the radio UK correspondent shortly. First though, the bills

1588
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: in for all that water infrastructure that we need to

1589
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: build so desperately, and it's nine billion dollars more expensive

1590
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: than previously thought. Councils have now all submitted their local

1591
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: water done Well plans to the government. They're expected to

1592
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 2: spend forty eight billion dollars on water. Simon Watt, says

1593
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: the local government minister, and joins me Tonight, good evening,

1594
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,799
Speaker 2: Minister Earding Ryan Seasons Gruden Season's greetings. So what's happening

1595
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: with this? The extra nine billion than we thought? Is

1596
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:33,480
Speaker 2: that because something has changed or is the estimated cost change.

1597
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 26: No, it's basically the councils have done a review and

1598
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 26: a forecast of what they believe they need to spend

1599
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 26: over the next decade, and that is up on where

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01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 26: they before had their plans.

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01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 11: Only it's going to be clear, this is what.

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01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 26: They believe they need. Then you've got to work out

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 26: what their capacity is to actually undertake the work and

1604
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 26: what they can spend and invest. But the highlight is

1605
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 26: we've got an infrastructure deficit.

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 11: We all know that we need to get more.

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01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 26: Money going into pipes in the infrastructure and we've now

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01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 26: got entities that can deliver that change and over the

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01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 26: next decade that means more jobs for kiwis.

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: So this is what they believe they will need. Can

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01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 2: they afford it?

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01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,799
Speaker 26: They can based on the assessment that the independent regulator,

1613
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 26: the Commerce Commission have done. That process is now complete.

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01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 26: They reviewed all sixty eight of councils and with the

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01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 26: exception of one which has got a facilitator in place,

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01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 26: the rest have been signed off. So we're in a

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01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 26: really good spot. And you know that's pretty good within

1618
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 26: in effect twelve months from when the legislation got passed.

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01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 2: Is it cheaper them under what three waters would have

1620
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: cost us?

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01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 6: Well?

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01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 26: Ryan I mean, as you know, that's a hypothetical because

1623
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 26: those guys got voted out and they never put that

1624
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 26: policy into practice. We are of the view, compared to

1625
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 26: the status quo, this is going to be a better

1626
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 26: deal for rate payers. And why I say that is

1627
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 26: because you know, we've got financially sustainable entities who are

1628
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 26: going to be undertaking this infrastructure investment. It's a big

1629
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 26: pot of money, right, No one's arguing about that. And

1630
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 26: I think we do need to acknowledge the capacity of

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01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,440
Speaker 26: the system, but I think what we need is consistent

1632
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 26: and stable investment over decades, not that lumpiness. And you

1633
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 26: know that's something that we're now.

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01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 11: Set up to deliver.

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01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 2: Okay, so they can afford to do it. It means

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01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of money they can afford

1637
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 2: to do it. That's been signed off. We're given them

1638
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: the tick tick for that. When will people actually start

1639
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: to see their pipes or not actually more to the point,

1640
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 2: not see their pipes.

1641
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 5: Well, that work's already started.

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01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 26: And if you're living in Auckland, for example, water care,

1643
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 26: we're first out of the gates and are undertaking that work.

1644
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 26: You know, at pace there's a lot of build up

1645
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 26: of capability. We need more water engineers, we need more

1646
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 26: people in that neck of the woods, and that's good

1647
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 26: as well in terms of capability.

1648
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,520
Speaker 6: But this work has already started.

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 26: And you're really going to see the industry build up

1650
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 26: to what I would expect peak delivery over the next

1651
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 26: two to three years.

1652
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: Two to three years. So like you know Wellington, we

1653
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: see those stories every second week of pipes bursting and

1654
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: water going all over the street and stuff. When will

1655
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 2: that not happen well Ryn.

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01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 26: You know, that's a challenging one because there's a lot

1657
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 26: of pipes in Wellington. But what I can be clear

1658
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 26: about is now they've got a stable entity to deliver

1659
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 26: that infrastructure. It's been reviewed by the ComCom. So we're

1660
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 26: getting out of the planning and these guys can start

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01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 26: doing the doing. And I think that's what rate payers

1662
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 26: have been calling for. They want this stuff to get

1663
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 26: on and be done. But you've got to acknowledge when

1664
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 26: you build infrastructure, you've got to do that over a

1665
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 26: long period of time, in consistent program to do that.

1666
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 26: So that's underway now and that's going to be good

1667
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 26: for our communities.

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01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: How were you in the house today? Apparently it was

1669
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: all getting but instead of that end of year rightist

1670
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: thing seems to be seems to be coming into play

1671
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 2: in the house. What was it like there tonight.

1672
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's pretty pretty jovial and everyone's fired up. I mean,

1673
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 26: I'm in the chair till when Parliament goes to midnight tonight,

1674
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 26: and I've got my bills going through all stages, so

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 26: I'll be don't you when you're ake at midnight doing

1676
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 26: whatever you do, you can think of me. I'll be

1677
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 26: still sitting in a chair in Parliament doing the good

1678
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 26: work for the.

1679
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: Public I'm doing on this drive show at the moment,

1680
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 2: So I'm happily. I will be happily sleeping tonight Simon,

1681
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: while you're working, which would be a nice chair.

1682
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 26: I might give you a shout out at midnight.

1683
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 11: There you go, Okay, all.

1684
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 2: Right, hey, appreciate your time. That Simon Watt's Local government

1685
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 2: minister is twenty one minutes away from seven News to Rainbridge.

1686
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: We'll get to get end of Brady, who's our UK

1687
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 2: correspondent in just a second. Do you really if you're

1688
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 2: living in Wellington and you have seen the flood, you

1689
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: know the streets flood, you've seen your been walking to

1690
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: work and you've seen your morning's breakfast following you down

1691
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: the street. Do you when do you realistically think that

1692
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: will be fixed? Because, like he's right, Simon Whatt, it's

1693
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: not going to happen overnight. But realistically, how long is

1694
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: it going to take to fix one hundred year old

1695
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: pipes that are not just in one street or two

1696
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: streets or the city center, but everywhere in town. It's

1697
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: going to be a lot to be whild, isn't it?

1698
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: Like I think, because we've got the legislation passing, because

1699
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 2: we've got the water done well thing happening, I think

1700
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: there's probably an expectation that we click our fingers and

1701
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 2: things will be done. But this is this is decades

1702
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: of not investing. It's going to mean probably decades of

1703
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: now investing and god knows how long before we actually

1704
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: see our streets not flooding whenever there are pipe bursts.

1705
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 2: Twenty to seven.

1706
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Eff, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1707
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance,

1708
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: your futures in good hands. News talks 'B.

1709
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: Seventeen to seven. On News TALKSB, we were just talking

1710
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 2: about infrastructure and water and all that stuff. And Gale

1711
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 2: is sent in a really interesting text. Who's listening into

1712
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: the program? Gale, good evening, Nice to have you listening.

1713
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 2: I'm just driving through an area of west Auckland that

1714
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 2: was hit hard by the floods of two or three

1715
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,799
Speaker 2: years ago. This is Gale's area. Every drain I walked past,

1716
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: or drive past, I should say, is blocked with leaves.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why the people who live in those

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01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: houses can't get out with a rubbish bag every now

1719
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: and then and sweep up a few leaves, put them

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01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: in a bag. I keep our drains absolutely clear because

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01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't want my house to flood. I just don't

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01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: understand why people think it's always somebody else's job. Gail,

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01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 2: great text, Thank you and good point. And I think

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01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 2: because we pay rates, because we pay such exorbitant amounts,

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01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 2: I think people just do it's someone else's it's the

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01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: council's job or problem. But you're right, before councils, what

1727
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: did we have? We had each other? Didn't we we

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01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: had like communities, we would one, we would talk to

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01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: each other. People barely do that to their neighbors these days.

1730
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,919
Speaker 2: But also you would organize jobs. You are on Saturday.

1731
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 2: We're all gonna get together and we're gonna do this.

1732
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna, you know, lay that concrete. We're gonna build

1733
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,759
Speaker 2: this road, We're gonna do something. We're gonna mow the berm,

1734
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: mow the berm. Now it's everything is the council's problem

1735
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: and the council's fault, and they do make a bit

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01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: of a rod for their own beck because when you

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01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 2: try and do something, they say no, you can't do

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01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 2: that because you'll get in trouble, and then there's health

1739
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 2: and safety and someone's toe gets run over. Then you

1740
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 2: know you'll go to jail. So there is that problem.

1741
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: But the sentiment, gal I completely agree with, get out

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01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: there and do your own stuff. New Zealand quarter to seven,

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01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge getting in the Brady a UK correspondent. Good evening,

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01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 2: Good morning to you in.

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01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 11: The well, said Ryan. Love that attitude.

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01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 2: Now, the doctor's strike, this could all be called off

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01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 2: at the last minute.

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01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 11: So yes, I think a combination of factors here, they're

1749
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 11: reading the room. For a start, we've got this strain

1750
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 11: of a so called superflu which is predicted to get

1751
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 11: to a tidal wave level next week. It's bad. I

1752
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 11: mean the government and medical leaders are saying to people that,

1753
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 11: you know, if you're on public transports, if you're out

1754
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 11: on the boat, start wearing face masks again. And I've

1755
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 11: noticed this the last couple of weeks on the tube

1756
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 11: in London. Initially I was thinking, okay, these visitors, and

1757
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 11: then it was happening at six am when I was

1758
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 11: on the tube sitting with Ukrainian builders going to work.

1759
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 11: A lot of people are now wearing face masks because

1760
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 11: they don't want to get this superflu before Christmas. So

1761
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 11: junior doctors are unhappy about money again, pay and working

1762
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 11: conditions and lack of training opportunities in the UK. They've

1763
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 11: threatened a five day strike starting December seventeenth. So what's

1764
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 11: that next Wednesday? For five days? And they've got the

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01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 11: government over a barrel. And what's happened now? I think

1766
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 11: the combination of the superflu and the junior doctors basically

1767
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 11: not having a huge amount of public support, the government

1768
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 11: has reached out and just said let's talk. So there's

1769
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 11: some sort of an offer in the pipeline. Will it

1770
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 11: be enough to call off a strike at the last minute?

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01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Let's see now, they're dropping like flyers from Eurovision. This

1772
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 2: is a bit of a crisis for them. Now, which

1773
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 2: country is the lightest to pull out?

1774
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,839
Speaker 11: Iceland? So that is now five countries in the space

1775
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 11: of forty eight hours have said they will not perform

1776
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 11: next year in May at Eurovision if Israel is allowed

1777
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 11: to participate. Now the organizers, the European Broadcasting Union, they

1778
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 11: are adamant that Israel will be allowed to sing. And

1779
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 11: what's happened now this week Ireland, Spain, Slovenia, the Netherlands

1780
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 11: and now last night Iceland. Five countries have all come

1781
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 11: out and said Okay, if they're in, we're out. And

1782
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 11: I think it's just real anger over the impunity with

1783
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 11: which Israel seems to be allowed to play soccer continuing

1784
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 11: cultural events like Eurovision, despite seventy thousand civilians dead in

1785
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 11: Gaza in two years. So all these countries are making

1786
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,520
Speaker 11: a stand, putting pressure on the organizers who are unflinching

1787
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 11: so far.

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01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about that. I love a good local

1789
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: council local baro story in London in the UK more generally,

1790
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 2: but this one in London, and it's a five hundred

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01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 2: thousand dollars rolls Royce on the pavement.

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01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 11: Yes, so there is one of the plushes squares in

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01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 11: London if you want to buy a little property there,

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01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 11: and I'm talking not a massive one. Twelve million dollars

1795
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 11: is the average starting price for a property on Grosvenor

1796
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 11: Square in central London. So you can imagine the people

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01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 11: who can afford that kind of money. They want to

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01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 11: be able to walk the pavements without having to go

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01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 11: out into the road because someone from Saudi Arabia has

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01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 11: parked a half a million dollars Rolls Royce and if

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01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 11: you see pictures online of this vehicle, it doesn't it's

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01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 11: not a classy looking vehicle. It's just like a huge, big,

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01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 11: blocky chunk of metal blocking the pavement. So they've been

1804
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 11: inundated with complaints from local residents saying we can't walk

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01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 11: on the pavement because of all these supercars everywhere. So

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01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,759
Speaker 11: the council turned up with a tow truck and it's gone.

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01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 11: They realize that, you know, one hundred and twenty dollars

1808
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 11: fine for illegal parking ain't gonna touch the sides. If

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01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 11: you can afford half a mil for a Rolls Royce

1810
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 11: and you live in Saudi Arabia, so they forgot about

1811
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 11: just basically thought, let's just not issue a fixed penalty

1812
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 11: was on the windscreen here, just get the toll truck out.

1813
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 11: So they're starting to move them. And funnily enough, this

1814
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 11: morning we're hearing this Grosvenor Square and other parts of

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01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 11: Belgravia and really wealthy bits of central London there's no

1816
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 11: illegal parking today.

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01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 2: Great, well that's the out coming on. That's the counsel

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01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: I suppose doing its job. And thank you and Brady

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01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 2: a UK correspondent, eleven away from seven. Now some of

1820
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 2: your texts on the working bee is the word yes,

1821
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: thank you for that text. That's the word I was

1822
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: searching for but couldn't quite grasp. This is on from

1823
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: Gail who's in West Auckland, says people should just clear

1824
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 2: their own drains. Why are you waiting for the council

1825
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 2: to do it? Next time it rains the whole suburb

1826
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: is going to flood again. Another says Ryan Gale is right.

1827
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Worse still, I saw a guy tipping his burm lawn

1828
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 2: clippings into a drain. Cardinal sin Ryan about the leaves

1829
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 2: and the drains. How about those people that blow all

1830
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 2: of their leaves from their property into the road in

1831
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: the first place, which end up in the drains. We

1832
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 2: have these people on our lovely street and they're very annoying.

1833
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 2: That's from Karen. Thank you, Karen Ryan. Our Residents Association

1834
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 2: and Grafton regularly organizes drain and gut to clean up.

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01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: Some more communities should do the same. I think they

1836
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 2: should too. But what do you do when you've got

1837
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 2: half the street blowing stuff down a drain and then

1838
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: you what are you gonna have the other half cleaning

1839
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 2: it up? No? One's sort of and we need to

1840
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 2: be a bit more combine. We need to be in

1841
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 2: cahoots on this, don't we, rather than sort of going

1842
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 2: in our own directions. It is ten away from seven

1843
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 2: News Talks EBB.

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01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: It's the Heather too for see All and Drive full

1845
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:39,639
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1846
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 2: Eight minutes away from seven. The court documents have come

1847
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: out for departu Marti Man. It just does never gets

1848
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 2: better for them, does it it. The hole just keeps

1849
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 2: digging and digging and digging, getting deeper and deeper and deeper.

1850
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 2: They'll reach China soon, So what's happened is that emails

1851
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 2: between marium and a KAPAKINGI and a guy who you

1852
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 2: probably haven't heard of, called Lance Norman. He's the party secretary.

1853
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: And so Mariiameno and Lance are emailing back and forth,

1854
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 2: and in one of the and they're referencing a meeting

1855
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: which was held like a hue to try and calm

1856
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:16,480
Speaker 2: things down, which involved the co letters JT and Mariameno

1857
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 2: CUPAKINGI right, and it's in reference to when JT called

1858
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: Mariameno's son, I said, I'm going to get utu on him.

1859
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: You know that's quite an offensive thing to say. So anyway,

1860
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 2: Then in this email, Norman goes back to Mariiomeno cuppa

1861
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 2: King and says, in conclusion, I was in attendance at

1862
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 2: this meeting where you alleged mister Tumberhead. He made a

1863
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 2: statement about your Fano and you will recall that you

1864
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 2: called him an effing seaward. This is all in the documents,

1865
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: the court documents. This is a party that will get

1866
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 2: and should get nowhere near the treasury benches, nowhere near

1867
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: a cabinet table. Lord help us. This is an absolute

1868
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 2: mess of proportions. I don't think we've seen in recent

1869
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 2: political history. That's easy to say, coming up at seven

1870
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 2: o'clock and so what are we going out to tonight?

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01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 9: Teenage dirt bag by Wheatis to take us out tonight, Ryan,

1872
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 9: this is actually quite a nice story. Wheatis are coming

1873
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 9: to New Zealand in January. We knew that. But they're

1874
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 9: going to be playing one show in Napier. So they're

1875
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 9: doing Auckland, Wellington and Napier. Why Napier Well Basically, the

1876
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 9: bloke at the Rob Franks, at the Napier Music Academy,

1877
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 9: saw that they were going to play Auckland Wellington and

1878
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 9: he was like, hey, we could do a show here,

1879
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 9: So he reached out to them, booked a venue, the

1880
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 9: Paisley Stage, and it's happening. It's a two hundred capacity

1881
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 9: venue and Rob says that he really thinks that wind

1882
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 9: bands of a smaller size or a large size when

1883
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 9: they come to New Zealand, it's always Auckland, Wellington or

1884
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 9: christ Church. And he says there's more to New Zealand

1885
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 9: and that let's try get them to other places. And

1886
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 9: he's gone out and done it, so good on them.

1887
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: Fantastic.

1888
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, the Wellington shows at San fran That one's sold out,

1889
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 9: but you can still get tickets for the Napier show

1890
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 9: and the Auckland one if you're interested.

1891
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 2: Great. This song was in the American pie kind of era,

1892
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 2: wasn't it.

1893
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, early early naughties. Yeah, probably the only one from

1894
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 9: whaitis that most of us will know.

1895
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 2: I would say, I actually confused yesterday when you told

1896
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: me about this confused Wheatus with Weezer, very different bands, which.

1897
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, to be well, Weser was across that whole error

1898
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 9: as well. And this music video as well had an

1899
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 9: actress and at Mina Savaria. Then event she was also

1900
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 9: in American beauty movies about there as well.

1901
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 2: That's true. All right, very good. We'll leave you with

1902
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 2: some Wheatus this evening and see tomorrow on your Friday.

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01:38:28,320 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 8: ANGI she's mist.

1904
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 10: She man, I feel like more.

1905
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 8: It's for a night and night and lonely alone, behome.

1906
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,560
Speaker 8: She's walking over to me.

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01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 2: This must be fake.

1908
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 8: My lip starts to shake. How does she know who

1909
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 8: I am?

1910
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 4: And why does she give a damn bad I've got

1911
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 4: to duck.

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01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:52,959
Speaker 8: It's deal on, my lady, come with me from Monday

1913
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 8: and don't say just the temp.

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