1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: EWE leaders are holding off on their position on a 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: long term rahui at Mount Munganui Following the deadly landslide. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Some comatua have called for permanent closure of the mountain, 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: saying it needs to heal before it can be used again. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: The leaders of Knight Ungy, Nati Rangi Nui and Nati 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Pu Kinger say, I we want to support the effort 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: to recover bodies and then long term decisions can be made. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: We haven't had agree as we haven't had agree with 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: our co martor to discuss what are the long term 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: plan for mowawas. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Buddy Makaidi is a historian from Nati Pou Kinger and 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Nati Rangi Nui and he's with us this evening. Elder buddy, 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Can you talk us 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: through this decision making process? 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Well, Mama was handed back to the Ewi. There's another 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Uien role which is Whitta as part of the treaty 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: settlement and so this when the trust was first established. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: And it's well. While the the mona is owned by 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: the Eui, it's a joint arrangement with the Tonia City 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: Council to have it as a public reserve, and so 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: there's a joint committee between the Trust and all the 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 3: other organizations that have interests on the mona, and that's 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: the body which in the end makes those decisions. But 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: certainly the EWE voice is an important one. 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And obviously the priority right now for 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: the EUI and for everyone involved is the immediate recovery 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: that I think we would all agree has to be 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: the priority at the stage. But as this protest process continues, 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: some e WE have called for a permanent closure in 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the past, So is that likely to be something that 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: will be considered. 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure there'll be consideration. Yes, it has. It 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: did come up in my time on the Trust as well. 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: It's a difficult one. I mean, there's obviously a respect 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: for Rahu that should be placed on it now, which 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: is what happening. I just can't believe reports that people 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: are trying to get through the barriers for goodness sake. 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: But anyway, apart from that, yes, there needs to be 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: a rest and I think during we should take advantage 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: of that time to have a proper review of the 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: entire mona, the track system, to see where likely hazards 42 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: might be and to note those and put in place, 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: you know, actions that might prevent this from happening again 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: in the future. I'm pretty sure that's a very vital 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: exercise that needs to happen. We need to review, i 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: think our planting plan for the mona where we're gradually 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 3: working around to the eastern southeastern side of the Mona, 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: which is that's been kept clear in the path through 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: sheep grazing and that kind of thing. But probably the 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: time it's come to make sure the manga is probably 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: quote I think as some people describe it with native vegetation, 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: and so that's an ongoing project as well. Yeah, so, yeah, 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: a number of things that could take place during that 54 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: pause in the in the use of the mona. But 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: you know, some being someone who's been there many, many, 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: many times, I wouldn't like to see other people denied 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: the opportunity to just view the Bay Bay applay from 58 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: the top of the Mona going forward into the future. 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time, Buddy, Thanks so much, Kelder. That is 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Buddy Machaidy, Nati Pooking and Nati Rangi Nui Historian. For 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News Talks. 62 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 63 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio