1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Europe looks in full melt down after jd Vance rolls 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: into town, told them the issue was not the Chinese 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: or the Russians, but the locals who were sick of 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: not being heard. And oh, by the way, Ukraine can 5 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: be at the peace talks, but Europe can't. Emmanuel Macaren 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: at this point apoplectic cause an emergency summit that's teed 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: up for tomorrow. Poland's TVP World Chief political correspondent Aaron 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Darmond's with us are in very good morning to you. 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Good morning mate, you were in the room. 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: Did it feel as dramatic as it felt from the 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: side of the world. 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Let me tell you a pen could drop in that 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: room as Jodie Vance gave that address. I mean European leaders, 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: it would be fair to say they didn't expect an 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: easy ride, but boy, oh boy, I think they were 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: shocked by the fact that he didn't focus on Ukraine, 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: he didn't mention defense spending, all the things that the 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 3: Munich Security Conference has been renowned for. Instead, he obviously 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: lambastad the continent's democracies, and given the tone and tenor 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: of what he told leaders in Munich, well we're in 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: Paris now because they're convening an emergency sum It's fair 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: to say Europe feels like. 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: It's been slapped in the face. 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: And do they have and what are they going to 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: achieve at this emergency some of the next twenty four hours, 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: apart from a lot of hot air and talk. 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Well, I think the difference here with this meeting, and 28 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: have covered many a political summit, is that these politicians 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: they genuinely don't know what they're going to do next. 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: They have to figure something out. I mean President Emanuel 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: mccahey was the one to now convene this summit in Paris. 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: He wanted to play kingmaker when it comes to Ukraine. 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: I was here in Paris and December when he got 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: Trump and Zelenski in the same room a house, and 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: that is a real opportunity to test his political muscle. 36 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: Has diplomatic muscle, even as his own government falls apart 37 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: around him. But forget that, I mean America, they've torn 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: up the rue books, they're phoned in Potin, they're now 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: talking about meetings directly with Russia in Saudi Arabia. So 40 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: this meeting they will need to come up with some 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: ideas and we'll get some answers well tomorrow night. 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: We will stay in touch. Aaron appreciator very much, Aaron Darmond, 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: who these days is Poland's TVP World Chief Political respond 44 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 45 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: News Talk SETB from six am weekdays, or follow the 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio