1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Tributes have continued to flow in following the passing of 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Nicky Kay, the former Minister and All Consensual MP, died 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: over the weekend at just forty four years old after 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: a long battle with cancer. She's been remembered as an 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: advocate for the rainbow community and a well respected MP 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: across all of Parliament. Michael Barnett is the former chief 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: executive of the Auckland Business Chamber and is with me 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: this morning. Michael, good morning, Brian, good morning. It's great 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: to have you on the show. This is obviously some 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: very very sad news. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: It is. It's such a shame that people like NICKI 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: need to go for us to remember the impact that 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: they made and the things that they did. But she's 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: certainly somebody that I worked with and somebody that I 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: remember and remember what she did. 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: What did you work with her on and what was 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: sort of some of the passions that came through when 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: you worked with her. 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: I think the use the word passion is a good one. 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: I mean she was passionate, she was a lesson and 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: of activity, she was an advocate. But for me, you know, 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: it's easy to talk fairness and equity in a community, 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: but it's harder to give the LGBTQ community a voice, 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: but she did that. It was easy for me to talk, 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: you know, the benefits of cruise ships coming to our city. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: It was harder for somebody to talk about the damage 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: to the environment from new ways, So it was easy 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: for me to talk about congestion and congestion charging in Auckland. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: It was harder to have a conversation about the benefits 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: of cycle waste, but she did. She was able to 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: give a voice to those who didn't have one, and 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: that was the Seme community in central Auckland. So those 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: are the things that I will remember her for. 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: She was a bit of a fish out of water 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: in that sense in the national caucus at the time, 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: and I guess part of the part of her appeal 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: to Auckland Central that she was able to take that seat. 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: If you have, you know, back into two thousand and 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: ate a labor stronghold for so many years, and she 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: took it, and she took it as a young liberal. 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: She took it as a fresh new face, passionate, tons 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: of energy, and she came in and she was quite 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: happy to have a different opinion around transport or around 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: where a port should be or as I said before, 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: the LGBTQ community, same sex marriage. You know, these these 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: were tough things that you needed to have a conversation about, 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: and she was happy to have that conversation. 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: Were you surprised at her passing. I mean I didn't. 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: I didn't realize personally how unwell she was. 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: I was aware, and I have to say I've done 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: a similar pathway, you know, with that cancer, and I 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: had throt cancer and you know, for so many years 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: it takes its toll, and you know, for those that 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: have been down there, you understand the pain and the 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: despair and the sense of futility. For her, it's been 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: something that she's carried for so many years bad She's 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: done it with huge amounts of support, huge amounts of hope, 58 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: and a huge amount of bled from herself. So I think, 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: you know, as she's someone as I say, it's a 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: shame when people like net to go that it takes 61 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: their parting for us to remember the goods she did. 62 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Michael, thank you very much for being with us 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: this morning. Really appreciate your time. 64 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: Thanks Ryan. 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: It's Michael Barnett, Formative executive of the Auckland Business Chamber. 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: to news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio