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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Welcome in to the Sunday edition of Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport on News Talks EDB, March nine. I'm Jason Pine.

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Speaker 3: Show producer is Any McDonald. We are here talking sport

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Speaker 3: with you until three o'clock this afternoon. Question Could the

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Speaker 3: thirty eighth America's Cup be sailed on Waitemata Harbor? Those

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Speaker 3: conversations have started between some of the key parties. If

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Speaker 3: it is to return, though, it'll need significant investment from

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Speaker 3: local and central government. Minister for Sport and Recreation Mark

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Speaker 3: Mitchell is on the show with us. I'm very very

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Speaker 3: keen after that to read your pulse on this, to

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Speaker 3: gauge your interest in your money, taxpayer and ratepayer going

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Speaker 3: towards getting the America's Cup back to New Zealand. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk that this hour. Other matters around today, quite a few,

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Speaker 3: Another drama packed weekend of Super Rugby, the Fiji and

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Speaker 3: Drewer beating the Chiefs in Lautoka, the previously unbeaten Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: Mina Pacifica beating the Hurricanes at Albany last night, their

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Speaker 3: first win of the season, their first winover in New

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Speaker 3: Patrick Palergreni superb last night, he's along for a chat

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Speaker 3: with us after one o'clock and Australian sides currently occupy

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Speaker 3: four of the top six places on the table. Are

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Speaker 3: we seeing a resurgence of Australian sides and Super Rugby

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Speaker 3: It is such a tight tape, so much so that

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Speaker 3: to chat about this afternoon. To the black Caps chase

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Speaker 3: in Zubai. Coach Gary Stead with us ahead of that.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of cricket, Central Stags batted Tom Bruce also along

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Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon as well, but a live sport while we're

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Speaker 3: New Zealand lead the series one now. The first game

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Speaker 3: out there with Georgia Plummer. They're eighty six without loss,

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Speaker 3: eighty seven without loss now after eighteen overs, so a

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Speaker 3: very solid start for Susie Baits and for New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Will keep eyes on that for you. Super rugby Opicky

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Speaker 3: Matatu against the Hurricanes Poer in christ Church from twelve

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Speaker 3: thirty five this afternoon. We'll keep tabs on that for

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Speaker 3: you and the New Zealand Track and Field Championships continue

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. This is your show though, to contribute to

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Speaker 3: Could the next America's Cut be held back in Auckland's.

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Speaker 2: It's history.

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Speaker 4: I'm the waters of the whole wrecky golf set against

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Speaker 3: That was twenty twenty one, of course, before Team New

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us on your Sunday afternoon. Mark, How

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Speaker 5: I'm a huge fan of the America's Cup. I mean,

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Speaker 3: What does he need from you?

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: Get into the numbers because that's for them, So I'm

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Speaker 3: How do you do that, mark, how do you calculate

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Speaker 6: Well, And that's a big part of the work that's

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Speaker 5: To actually try and identify that and see exactly, you know,

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Speaker 3: The economic impact report, as I mentioned before, revel Barcelona

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's for the experts to do and

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Speaker 3: On that as you look to get to ASM numbers,

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Speaker 5: you know, it'd be fantastic. We want to try and

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Speaker 5: it comes down to again making responsible decisions around where

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Speaker 3: Who do you have to convince, Well, it's a lot

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Speaker 6: Me having to convinced anyone.

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Speaker 5: It's a matter of us being convinced as a government,

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Speaker 3: Do you take into account the intangible benefits to New

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's important. I do think that's important

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Speaker 3: Now alklan Mea. Wayne Brown has said he wants a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he spoke to me about that also. And look,

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Speaker 5: And she's doing. But she's the one responsible doing the

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Speaker 3: So there's a few moving parts here. The clock is

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Speaker 5: know that they are. You know, we want to host

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Speaker 3: All right, So you're keen to do it if the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm very keen to do it.

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Speaker 5: I think that like I said to you, and I

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on mate. Have a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesse, Sorry mate, we just can't. We can't hear you. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 9: Grant, Hi, Yes, yes, yes, can I be more specific?

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Speaker 8: Profit if we want to call it.

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Speaker 9: To the New Zealand economy, the souper yacht owners, the

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Speaker 9: Right, And they're certainly going to make much much more

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Grant. We'll put you down as a Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'll put a tick beside your name. Jesse. We've got

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Speaker 3: Right, So you're going to tip one hundred and fifty million,

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Speaker 12: Because I mean, I mean, I've watched tenior Zilla and

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Speaker 7: Here's my phone number, call me.

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Speaker 3: To one am I Jesse. We won't put your number

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Speaker 13: No, Well, he's answering our question.

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Speaker 1: The biggest things in sport are on Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 3: Be Bang on twelve thirty talking America's Cup and getting

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Speaker 8: Hey Mike, Hey, fine, you know worried about hurricanes.

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Speaker 8: the right mire and the right government. I think Brad

435
00:22:00,747 --> 00:22:03,067
Speaker 8: Dalton's obviously in the right heat space to bring it

436
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Speaker 8: back here. And I just think, you know, we spend

437
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Speaker 8: hundreds of millions of dollars on Hollywood movies. We never

438
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Speaker 8: get to see the profits of so in the economic

439
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Speaker 8: arguments are bit eerie fiery. But you know, as far

440
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Speaker 8: as the sporting events goes, we don't really get to

441
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Speaker 8: host world class events very often, do we.

442
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Speaker 3: No, we don't. Well there, I mean, what is there

443
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Speaker 3: annually that we host? You know, even sale GP they're

444
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Speaker 3: looking at making that annual and that will be one.

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Speaker 3: I know that Sir Russell Kirtz has got a five

446
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Speaker 3: year plan ordeal certainly in front of Auckland, and I

447
00:22:36,267 --> 00:22:39,667
Speaker 3: hope they take it. But yeah, and you're right, and

448
00:22:39,707 --> 00:22:41,587
Speaker 3: it's not really Yes, we can all watch it. We can,

449
00:22:41,667 --> 00:22:43,427
Speaker 3: we can for free. Yeah, turn up on the shore

450
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Speaker 3: and watch it. But it's it's the benefit of all

451
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Speaker 3: of those visitors coming in. Barcelona had huge visitor numbers,

452
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Speaker 3: and visitor numbers not just people like you and I

453
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Speaker 3: Mark who turn up to watch, but those who come

454
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Speaker 3: in on their super yachts and watch and pump tens

455
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Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars into the local economy while they're there.

456
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Speaker 3: You get enough of those and straight away, you know,

457
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Speaker 3: you get your return on investment.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think the only thing we've got to do this time,

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Speaker 8: Piney that they didn't do last time. It's bacon. If

461
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Speaker 8: we were it gets to say.

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Speaker 3: So there have to be a guarantee. Yeah, if they

463
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Speaker 3: won it here, if they went it here, then then

464
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Speaker 3: it stays here. Yeah. You know, look, the Barcelona thing

465
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Speaker 3: obviously left a bit of a bad taste in people's mouths.

466
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Speaker 3: But you've got to give it to Grant Dalton. You know,

467
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Speaker 3: he's he hasn't said, Okay, well you know we've we've

468
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Speaker 3: defended it off shore, so that's now what we're looking at. Yes,

469
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Speaker 3: there are other suitors. I note, interestingly enough, that Barcelona

470
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Speaker 3: haven't put their hand up again. They're one and done.

471
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Speaker 3: But yeah, but you know, Grant Dalton even I don't

472
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Speaker 3: think he's I didn't think he's waving a carrot in

473
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Speaker 3: front of us that isn't edible. I think he actually

474
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Speaker 3: wants to bring it back.

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Speaker 8: I think he does too, and I think he probably

476
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Speaker 8: feels a little bit bad that he took it away,

477
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Speaker 8: because he's got one hell of a lot of bad

478
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Speaker 8: pr about it. But you know, Barcelona's saying they made

479
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Speaker 8: two billion dollars out of it, it seems a bit extreme.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I watching it on TV. That didn't even

481
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Speaker 8: look like they were that many people there. They'd be honest.

482
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Speaker 8: And I think the event in Auckland, I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: they as I said, the money is an eerie theory,

484
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Speaker 8: but man, it's a pretty good Eventicey go. It creates

485
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Speaker 8: a whole vibe in the city. And you know, I

486
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Speaker 8: just hope, I just personally, I hope it ends up

487
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Speaker 8: being an Auckland I think it'll be great.

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Speaker 3: I hope so too much. Don't worry about the Canes, Mate,

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Speaker 3: we'll come right, he said, hopefully we'll talk superb next hour.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, those those economic impact reports

492
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Speaker 3: are always a little bit like I say, you got

493
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Speaker 3: to take them with a grain of salt, because often

494
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Speaker 3: they're put together by consultants or by bodies who are

495
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Speaker 3: told what should be in there, you know, because every

496
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Speaker 3: economic impact report you wanted to be a favorable one,

497
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Speaker 3: don't you. But the fact remains that that it's a

498
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Speaker 3: smaller number. It's look, if it's one fifty half of

499
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Speaker 3: one fifty seventy five across local and central month seventy

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Speaker 3: five million, you know, if we can get anywhere near

501
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Speaker 3: the one point eight billion that was estimated to be

502
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Speaker 3: pumped into the Barcelona economy last month, then, at the

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Speaker 3: risk of repeating myself, it is a no brainer. Marty. Hi,

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Speaker 3: you know, man, how are you very good money?

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Speaker 15: But look, I've actually got a bit of a foot

506
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Speaker 15: in the tourism drive. I've got a motor home which

507
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Speaker 15: I read out, and then I also have a I

508
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Speaker 15: work for two companies, one with a where I pick

509
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Speaker 15: people in the forty nine cedicach and also then also

510
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Speaker 15: have an work for a guy who's we do specialists

511
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Speaker 15: to us. Now you hear these people and I've heard

512
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Speaker 15: them say, oh it amly benefits aalkman. Well, you know,

513
00:25:55,187 --> 00:25:58,707
Speaker 15: I just took a group from off the Viking ship

514
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Speaker 15: a couple of days ago that I looked at two

515
00:26:00,547 --> 00:26:03,627
Speaker 15: people don't have to look at the two were just

516
00:26:03,667 --> 00:26:08,027
Speaker 15: out of Medicana. Now the benefit forgetting saying when people

517
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:12,307
Speaker 15: say it's only benefiting Auckland, all the tour companies are

518
00:26:12,307 --> 00:26:14,267
Speaker 15: going to benefit. For the people who are saying in

519
00:26:15,227 --> 00:26:20,227
Speaker 15: the hotels were saying about the bed Tex, well, they

520
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Speaker 15: are going to benefit because okay, these people will be

521
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Speaker 15: coming in longer term going onto my motor home, okay,

522
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Speaker 15: spending it for the whole summer, right and you know

523
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Speaker 15: the many many other moto homes out there, so it's

524
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Speaker 15: kind of extend that range the people like Hobbs and

525
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Speaker 15: White Tamer and there again their numbers will increase free

526
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Speaker 15: the America's Cup because it's such a big thing. And

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Speaker 15: they okay, the people who in that company which I

528
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Speaker 15: deal with, my small little company, must want my company,

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Speaker 15: a small little company. Again, we will benefit enormously because okay,

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Speaker 15: A we do partake tours. B B. That they tell

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Speaker 15: you that the people that won't be just coming to

532
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Speaker 15: sit in because Cup, they will extend their day to

533
00:27:01,227 --> 00:27:04,227
Speaker 15: say that. So the people who say that, okay, that

534
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Speaker 15: the investment and it is only in news in Auckland.

535
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Speaker 15: I'm sorry to carry it's total rubbish because as I say,

536
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Speaker 15: and I come back from a fact as I've got

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Speaker 15: a motor home, which OK, and I know a lot

538
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Speaker 15: of other people who've got motor homes during the summer

539
00:27:20,467 --> 00:27:23,707
Speaker 15: we rented. Now ako, We've had good years and bad years.

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Speaker 15: But again that's just going to be the icing on

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Speaker 15: the cake for people to come out. And so that's

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Speaker 15: you know, that's the way I look at it, like,

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Speaker 15: as I say, so yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: Good on your money's so yeah, I totally agree. There's

545
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Speaker 3: no way, there's no way that people are coming. If

546
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Speaker 3: people come to the America's Cup which goes for a

547
00:27:39,587 --> 00:27:41,547
Speaker 3: couple of months, there's no way they're staying in Auckland

548
00:27:41,587 --> 00:27:43,947
Speaker 3: the whole time. You know, they're hopping in a motorhome

549
00:27:44,027 --> 00:27:46,867
Speaker 3: and exploring either north of Auckland or down through the

550
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Speaker 3: North Island. They're flying down to the South Island. They're

551
00:27:49,307 --> 00:27:51,787
Speaker 3: going to Queenstown, They're going to the West Coast, they're

552
00:27:51,787 --> 00:27:55,387
Speaker 3: going to Nelson, Marlborough, to christ Do anywhere. Really, you

553
00:27:55,427 --> 00:28:00,587
Speaker 3: know you've come this far then you're carrying on. Twelve

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Speaker 3: thirty seven. James Dolan is from the Hotel Council ol

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Speaker 3: deal Alla Strategic Director. Thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 16: James, Hey, Piney, how are you very good?

557
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Speaker 2: Very good?

558
00:28:12,147 --> 00:28:14,027
Speaker 3: You've got a view on I presume your ringing about

559
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Speaker 3: the bid techs.

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Speaker 16: Oh look, I'm an Auckland born and raised a huge

561
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Speaker 16: sports fan. Yes, I am with Hotel Council out here

562
00:28:23,347 --> 00:28:26,107
Speaker 16: are so been listening intently and I thought i'd give

563
00:28:26,147 --> 00:28:28,827
Speaker 16: you a buzz, give you a different perspective, and perhaps

564
00:28:28,827 --> 00:28:30,867
Speaker 16: give you a few more facts and stats to help

565
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Speaker 16: you your listeners understand some of the other parts of

566
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Speaker 16: the question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wonderful. What have you got for us?

568
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Speaker 16: Well, you know one number I think is really key,

569
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Speaker 16: or two numbers that are really key, pretty COVID tourism

570
00:28:43,787 --> 00:28:48,227
Speaker 16: in New Zealand. CHST generated three point nine billion dollars

571
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Speaker 16: tourism in New Zealand. So it's a huge number, right,

572
00:28:51,347 --> 00:28:55,427
Speaker 16: what tourism generates around the New Zealand economy. But what

573
00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:59,467
Speaker 16: we spend on tourism New Zealand. That's the marketing agency

574
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Speaker 16: that does one hundred percent pure and promotes New Zealand

575
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Speaker 16: around the world. What we spend is one hundred and

576
00:29:04,667 --> 00:29:07,827
Speaker 16: ten million. So two two key numbers, right, now the

577
00:29:07,867 --> 00:29:11,907
Speaker 16: America's Cup is a pretty big number what's being talked

578
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Speaker 16: about to get the hosting rights and the final stat

579
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Speaker 16: To put into.

580
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Speaker 17: Perspective for you, five.

581
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Speaker 16: Or six years ago, Auckland used to spend thirty million

582
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Speaker 16: on event attraction and destination marketing and nowadays it spends

583
00:29:26,107 --> 00:29:30,227
Speaker 16: about seven million. So there's been a real loss of

584
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Speaker 16: investment in all sorts of events, not just the America's Cup,

585
00:29:33,627 --> 00:29:38,907
Speaker 16: but business events, cultural events, music events, and that's all

586
00:29:38,987 --> 00:29:42,147
Speaker 16: kind of faded away. So I got to say, I'm

587
00:29:42,187 --> 00:29:46,267
Speaker 16: not super excited about the America's Cup until we solve

588
00:29:46,307 --> 00:29:47,587
Speaker 16: the overall problem.

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00:29:47,867 --> 00:29:51,467
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the reason that that Auckland Council is investing

590
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Speaker 3: less is obviously because of the economic situation that we

591
00:29:56,467 --> 00:30:00,627
Speaker 3: find ourselves in, right, James, That's correct.

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Speaker 16: We've got the lowest rates rise in the whole country.

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Speaker 16: I mean, Mayor Brown is proud of what he's delivered

594
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Speaker 16: for all Akland is in good honor. I mean he's

595
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Speaker 16: proud that it's a what is a five point three

596
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Speaker 16: percent rates increase. I'm a rate payer, I'm happy about that.

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Speaker 16: But just so your listeners understand, we could properly fund

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Speaker 16: events in Auckland if the increase was six point three percent,

599
00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:25,427
Speaker 16: but Wayne Brown doesn't want to do that right. Other

600
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Speaker 16: parts of the country are putting in ten percent rates rises,

601
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Speaker 16: twelve percent rates rises. And when Wayne Brown is saying

602
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Speaker 16: there's no money, there's no way of getting the money.

603
00:30:35,347 --> 00:30:37,307
Speaker 16: But there's a pretty obvious way of getting the money

604
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Speaker 16: raise rates.

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Speaker 3: There's another obvious way of getting it, and that's a

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Speaker 3: bid tex.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's not a bad solution, and it's a solution.

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Speaker 16: The Hotel Council and other people in industry have been

609
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Speaker 16: talking about trying to talk to Auckland Council about but

610
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Speaker 16: Auckland Council doesn't want to listen to the bit of

611
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Speaker 16: the argument they don't like. So the bit they don't like.

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Speaker 16: All listeners have been talking about how when people come

613
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Speaker 16: to Auckland, they travel up and down the country. Auckland's

614
00:31:12,267 --> 00:31:15,467
Speaker 16: not the only reason people come to New Zealand. But

615
00:31:15,587 --> 00:31:18,307
Speaker 16: what Wayne Brown doesn't want to do is he doesn't

616
00:31:18,347 --> 00:31:22,147
Speaker 16: want to do at ax across the entire country, doing

617
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Speaker 16: it once, doing it right. He wants to race ahead

618
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Speaker 16: and do Auckland first. And you know, the industry has

619
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Speaker 16: been telling him all the reasons we want to do

620
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Speaker 16: it properly in New Zealand, because you know, tourism isn't

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Speaker 16: just about New Zealand, and isn't Auckland, and it isn't

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Speaker 16: just about the America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: So you're not against a bed tax per se. You

624
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Speaker 3: would just rather see it applied across the entire country

625
00:31:46,907 --> 00:31:48,547
Speaker 3: rather than just in the Auckland region. Is that what

626
00:31:48,587 --> 00:31:48,987
Speaker 3: I'm hearing?

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Speaker 16: That's correct? You know Auckland. Auckland Council had one disastrous

628
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Speaker 16: attempt to create a new tourism attack and they almost

629
00:31:58,987 --> 00:32:01,907
Speaker 16: bankrupted a whole bunch of hotels and motels during COVID

630
00:32:01,947 --> 00:32:05,267
Speaker 16: because of it. And now we've got Auckland Council coming

631
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Speaker 16: in and saying, let us as own another tourism tax.

632
00:32:08,067 --> 00:32:11,547
Speaker 16: No thanks, Let's do this nationally in New Zealand. Let's

633
00:32:11,587 --> 00:32:14,907
Speaker 16: do it properly across the entire country rather than this

634
00:32:15,067 --> 00:32:18,907
Speaker 16: kind of Auckland first thing driven by legacy projects like

635
00:32:18,947 --> 00:32:21,347
Speaker 16: the America's Cup. You know, I love the America's Cup,

636
00:32:21,587 --> 00:32:24,907
Speaker 16: but you know there's plenty of other events that also

637
00:32:24,987 --> 00:32:29,787
Speaker 16: need funding, like business events, cultural events, singing, and some

638
00:32:29,827 --> 00:32:32,427
Speaker 16: of these things need a lot smaller amounts of money

639
00:32:32,827 --> 00:32:35,827
Speaker 16: to help drive people into our Auckland CBD and make

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Speaker 16: it active again.

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Speaker 3: Do you just want to go Do you reckon that

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00:32:39,747 --> 00:32:43,587
Speaker 3: central government should be it should be like you've obviously

643
00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:46,027
Speaker 3: listened to Mark Mitchell. Do you feel as though they

644
00:32:46,067 --> 00:32:48,867
Speaker 3: should be contributing their share of this? Are you in

645
00:32:48,947 --> 00:32:51,627
Speaker 3: favor of central government investments in this?

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00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:55,667
Speaker 16: Goet one hundred percent as a starting point. You know,

647
00:32:55,747 --> 00:33:00,187
Speaker 16: let's start with the basic economic facts. Tourism delivers much

648
00:33:00,227 --> 00:33:03,507
Speaker 16: more tax payer money to central government than it takes

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Speaker 16: back in reinvestment. So tourism for your hospitals, your schools,

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Speaker 16: your welfare programs and all sorts, you know, but tourism

651
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Speaker 16: doesn't get the benefit for that. That's the big argument

652
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Speaker 16: from industry. Industries had in Marth of local council who's

653
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Speaker 16: deciding they want to take a clip the ticket and

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Speaker 16: have a local bed tax here and another charge there.

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Speaker 16: Tourism saying enough is enough. If we need to create

656
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Speaker 16: more revenue, if we need a bed tax, please, let's

657
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Speaker 16: design a modern bed tax for the entire country that

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Speaker 16: works well. And unfortunately that's not what Wayne Brown wants

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Speaker 16: to do. He wants an old fashioned bed tax where

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Speaker 16: every hotel has to hire an accountant and tell Auckland

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Speaker 16: Council every month what their results were, and that's that's rubbish.

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Speaker 16: It's not going to work that way.

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate your perspective, James. Thanks for calling him mate.

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Speaker 3: It's been Yeah, it's been enlightening. I'm sure foot well

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Speaker 3: for me and for our listeners too.

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Speaker 16: Brilliant. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye, Thanks James, bubbye James Dallon there he has

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Speaker 3: was just a caller to the show, just like any

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Speaker 3: other involved as rategic director of Hotel Council alt Piadora

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Speaker 3: seventeen to one I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: If you want to jump aboard, just a few more

672
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Speaker 3: minutes of this before we get to one o'clock, we'll

673
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Speaker 3: flick across the super Rugby. But if you've got a view,

674
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Speaker 3: there is a spear line there for the first time

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Speaker 3: this hour, America's Cup to Auckland. Are you a fan?

676
00:34:23,187 --> 00:34:26,027
Speaker 3: Is it something that should be funded by central and

677
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Speaker 3: or local government? Like an earlier caller, do you have

678
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Speaker 3: some private money to tip in or anything else in

679
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Speaker 3: terms of your yanis or nayanus around getting the America's

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Speaker 3: Cup back to wat Mata Harbor back with more of

681
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Speaker 3: your calls after this or Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught offside call eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sports with Jason Paine and GJ. Garvnoes, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks.

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Speaker 3: NB thirteen Away from one speed line. If you want

686
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Speaker 3: to jump aboard our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: A ton of texts which I can get to, but

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Speaker 3: keen to hear your views, You've got a few more

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Speaker 3: minutes to jump on the phone. In basic terms, are

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Speaker 3: you in favor of a pitch to get the America's

691
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Speaker 3: Cup back to Auckland, back to the White to Matar Harbor?

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Speaker 3: Grant Salton seems keen on making it happen. Making it happen.

693
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Speaker 3: How would you feel about about central government money and

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Speaker 3: local government money going towards a pitch of the sort,

695
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Speaker 3: Because that's the way it's going to have to work.

696
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Speaker 3: Half of it will come from private investment, the other

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Speaker 3: half around seventy five million will have to come from

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Speaker 3: local and central government. Allen says, I'm not anti America's Cup,

699
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Speaker 3: but as an Auckland rate payer, I totally agree with

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Speaker 3: James to increase our rates by a mere one percent

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Speaker 3: to fund it. Yeah, I think that was the that's

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Speaker 3: you know, and James makes a good point. You know,

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Speaker 3: there are other ways to raise funds. If you are

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Speaker 3: a local council can you can raise the rates And

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Speaker 3: Wayne Brown, I think, to the delight of a lot

706
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Speaker 3: of people, hasn't done that. I'm not from Auckland, but

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Speaker 3: I can imagine that that no rates rise would be

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Speaker 3: a popular thing. But his bed tax hasn't landed well

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Speaker 3: with the likes of James there, who we just heard from,

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Speaker 3: in terms of just being an Auckland thing. Look, I

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Speaker 3: think it feels to me like a bed tax is

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Speaker 3: a good idea. And I guess when I said before

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Speaker 3: that it was a no brainer for Auckland by extension,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a no brainer for our country. If

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Speaker 3: we're looking for ways to help fund our pitchres for

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Speaker 3: big events, then it seems like a fairly sensible economic plan.

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Speaker 3: If you're putting two and a half three percent on

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Speaker 3: top of the room rate and that money goes into

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Speaker 3: a fund at local council level to help, you know,

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Speaker 3: pitch for big events, I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: James said, you have to hire an accountant. I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure that's true. Pretty sure you just take two and

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Speaker 3: a half three percent off the top. You just pass

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Speaker 3: it on, don't you. If you're charging three hundred a room,

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Speaker 3: you charge three h nine a room, and you pass

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Speaker 3: the nine dollars on. Seems to make you an makes

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Speaker 3: sense to me, Arthur High, Yes.

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Speaker 18: Good morning. If Donald Trump and Millennia Trump can create

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Speaker 18: a crypto token and sell them, then my suggestion is

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Speaker 18: that we we fire our up a token for the

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Speaker 18: America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: I've got no idea what you're talking about, Arthur.

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Speaker 18: Crypto, crypto, cryptocurrency, cryptocurrency, cryptotokens, you can fire up a

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Speaker 18: token that's all ready to do it.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 18: It was just an idea.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like we're just magicing money out of thin air. Look,

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether Look I think it would be.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's an oppiction. I don't know. It feels to

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Speaker 3: me as though we should be looking a bit closer

741
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Speaker 3: to home and starting up our own cryptocurrency. Author But

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your enthusiasm of it. John says on text,

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Speaker 3: No more funding the America's Cup. We shall put our

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Speaker 3: money towards grassroots sport in New Zealand. Thank you John. Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Jason just had a quick look in my wallet. I've

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Speaker 3: got thirty seven dollars and fifty five cents that'd be

747
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Speaker 3: happy to tip in the America's Cup. But seriously, we

748
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Speaker 3: undervalue our tourism. Just look how cheap we sell our

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Speaker 3: great walks for says Brian. Look people coming and if

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Speaker 3: we go back to the bed tax and I want

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Speaker 3: to lay to that point, but people aren't going to

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Speaker 3: ball cat it. It's not something that is uncommon around

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Speaker 3: the world. Anyone who's traveled internationally knows that this is

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Speaker 3: a common practice, and not just on on a bed

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Speaker 3: levy or a night levy, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, paying for attractions, paying to do things that

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Speaker 3: attract tourists to that country, It's not unusual, Joanne, says Jason,

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Speaker 3: America's Cup should be in New Zealand. The obvious benefits

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Speaker 3: to the economy aside, it is a fantastic New Zealand

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Speaker 3: branding opportunity. New Zealand wins rugby, rowing and sailing. Surely

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Speaker 3: we should invest in this in the same way we

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Speaker 3: promote New Zealand beef and lamb. New Zealand's reputation would

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Speaker 3: be enhanced for sure by hosting the America's Cup. Ian

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Speaker 3: says the local boat builders alone would probably pay that

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Speaker 3: seventy odd million back in tax. Another one here. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand is in a massive economic slump. We need to

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Speaker 3: get our mojo back in a massive event like the

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Speaker 3: America's Cup is a no brainer, Michael says Jason, good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: For a man who has a transatlantic crossing, sailed the

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Speaker 3: Mediterranean and the Caribbean, I don't actually care about the

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Speaker 3: America's Cup. It's too boring. First across the start line

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Speaker 3: usually wins. That's the way it works, Michael. And racing.

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Speaker 3: Go back to the traditional racing and you might change

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Speaker 3: my mind. Sale GP is far superior. Thank you, Michael,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. In the cricket in Nelson, New Zealand

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty eight for two batting first against

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Speaker 3: Ri Lanka. This is the third and final women's international.

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Speaker 3: First game was reigned out in Napier. New Zealand won

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Speaker 3: the second one on Friday in Nelson, one twenty eight

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Speaker 3: for two batting first In the third and final one

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Speaker 3: Day International. That is in the thirty first over Georgia

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Speaker 3: Plumber sixty five not out, Susie Bates out for fifty three.

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Speaker 3: Brook Halladay is out there with Georgia Plumber at the moment,

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Speaker 3: So in the thirty first over New Zealand one twenty

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Speaker 3: eight for two. Just on seven and a half away

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Speaker 3: from one News Talk.

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Speaker 1: SEB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

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Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Pie They call oh,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: News Talk z NB and coming up four to one.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for all your cause and correspondence about the America's Cup.

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00:40:46,467 --> 00:40:47,987
Speaker 3: More to come on this. There is a bit of

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Speaker 3: time pressure here Team New Zealand Grant Dalton has said

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Speaker 3: that they will announce the next venue by June twenty

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Speaker 3: so that's what three months away, So there is a

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Speaker 3: little bit of time of the essence pressure here and

797
00:41:04,187 --> 00:41:08,707
Speaker 3: quite a few moving parts to to work our way through.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see it back, but there's a bit

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Speaker 3: of water to flow under the bridge across White to

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Speaker 3: Mata Harbor perhaps before it can happen. After one o'clock

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Speaker 3: Super rugk be just updating our Super Rugby opick you

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Speaker 3: Mutta to lead the Hurricanes bo tennil after nineteen minutes

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Speaker 3: in christ Church. That's the early game in christ Church.

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Speaker 3: But later on this afternoon the crusaded up against the Reds.

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Speaker 3: But what did you make of the Super rugby action yesterday?

806
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Speaker 3: And hear me out here? Should we have a super

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Speaker 3: round in Fiji?

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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

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Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on Wi Jam Sport

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Speaker 1: with Jason Taine on your home of sport us talk.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't Sevan welcome this weekend sport till three.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald's a long site as show producer.

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Speaker 3: In general, dog's body, that's a terrible thing to say.

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Speaker 3: As I was starting that sentence, I thought, how am

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Speaker 3: I going to get out of the sentence generally executive producer?

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Speaker 3: That's better, isn't it? Or do you prefer dog's body?

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Speaker 3: I know some people say I'm in charge of the show, poney,

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Speaker 3: so I might turn your mic off after that comment.

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Speaker 3: Who are these people who say that? Are they management?

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Speaker 3: Are they in management? My friends? Yere management? Let's just

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Speaker 3: say they're in management. Allegiacly, let's say it. It's great

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Speaker 3: to have you along. It's great to have you along too.

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Speaker 3: Listening in rugby, this out quite a bit of super rak.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk about what happened yesterday, Mars say

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Speaker 3: is on text Pony, what's happening in Wellington? Your Phoenix

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Speaker 3: and Hurricanes are bloody awful. Thank you mus for pointing

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Speaker 3: that out. Yeah, the Phoenix were very very average last

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Speaker 3: night and therefore one lost to Western United. The Hurricanes

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Speaker 3: going down to more Onner Pacifica. I would prefer us

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Speaker 3: to praise more Onner Pacifica for a great performance, and

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Speaker 3: in fact we're going to get inside their camp in

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Speaker 3: just a moment. I am taking heart from the fact

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Speaker 3: that Georgia Plummer another welling TONI and is currently batting

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Speaker 3: very well for the White Ferns and Nelson, So I'll

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Speaker 3: take that. The Hurricanes, poet. The women's side are losing

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Speaker 3: currently twenty four nil to Mutatio, so that just adds

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Speaker 3: to the salt you're rubbing into my wound. Thirty one

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Speaker 3: minutes gone there in christ dude, you can hear commentary

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Speaker 3: that game. Incidentally, if you're a fan of super rugby,

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Speaker 3: O Picky on gold Sport and iHeartRadio Mutta to twenty

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Speaker 3: four hurricanes poem noell after thirty one minutes and just

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Speaker 3: on the cricket, I'll just I should probably update you

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Speaker 3: on what the actual scor is rather than just sort

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Speaker 3: of talk about how well Georgia blimmers going one hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty six for two New Zealand one forty six

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Speaker 3: for two having decided to bat upon the winning of

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Speaker 3: the toss one forty eight for two. Bitters Now and

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Speaker 3: we are through. How many overs? Are we through? Thirty four?

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Speaker 3: Thirty four overs? Georgia plumber seventy one not out Brook

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Speaker 3: heller Day on seventeen. Well, let's talk super rugby. What

851
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Speaker 3: a Saturday it was?

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Speaker 19: First this, that is the Fiji and Drawer who knock

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Speaker 19: off the unbeaten Chiefs twenty eight, twenty four in lovetalka.

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Speaker 2: What a performance?

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Speaker 3: And then this or have attacks contacts. Mowanna've got the ball, Mowanna,

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Speaker 3: I gotta chog it over the touchline.

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Speaker 19: While I call this competition super rugby Pacific. The power

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Speaker 19: of the Pacific has been felt today. First the drawer.

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Speaker 19: Now Maawana pacifica knockover Kiwi teams in succession. Mawana Pacificer

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00:44:47,147 --> 00:44:49,547
Speaker 19: forty the Hurricane's thirty one.

861
00:44:50,027 --> 00:44:54,787
Speaker 3: Great calls from Nathan and Elliott on those games. So

862
00:44:54,907 --> 00:44:57,187
Speaker 3: Nathan m Elliot Smith part of our commentary team on

863
00:44:57,267 --> 00:45:01,187
Speaker 3: Gold Sport and iHeartRadio ONEA Pacifica snapping a twenty match

864
00:45:01,747 --> 00:45:05,667
Speaker 3: Super Rugby losing streak against New Zealand sides beating the

865
00:45:05,787 --> 00:45:10,347
Speaker 3: Hurricanes thirty one in Albany last night. First five. Patrick

866
00:45:10,427 --> 00:45:14,787
Speaker 3: Palegrini had an absolutely superb game in the number ten

867
00:45:14,867 --> 00:45:17,187
Speaker 3: jersey for More One. He joins us. Now, I'm sure

868
00:45:17,227 --> 00:45:19,947
Speaker 3: you slept pretty well after that, Patrick, thanks for joining

869
00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:23,267
Speaker 3: us this afternoon. How significant a result is this for

870
00:45:23,667 --> 00:45:26,427
Speaker 3: you and your More one apecificate teammates.

871
00:45:27,267 --> 00:45:28,187
Speaker 7: Yeah, big a.

872
00:45:28,227 --> 00:45:31,187
Speaker 20: Tholt, definitely, especially going into the buy, you know, getting

873
00:45:31,227 --> 00:45:35,307
Speaker 20: a win under the belt, big, big, big win back

874
00:45:35,467 --> 00:45:38,747
Speaker 20: at home. So yeah, good, good to get the good

875
00:45:38,787 --> 00:45:40,987
Speaker 20: to get that under the belt going into the bye week.

876
00:45:41,347 --> 00:45:44,187
Speaker 3: Did it feel like this win was coming after your

877
00:45:44,267 --> 00:45:46,387
Speaker 3: performances in the first three games?

878
00:45:47,947 --> 00:45:52,147
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely, No, two of those games we could have

879
00:45:52,187 --> 00:45:55,107
Speaker 20: won easily, just got away from us in the end,

880
00:45:55,187 --> 00:45:57,227
Speaker 20: So definitely felt like it was coming.

881
00:45:57,307 --> 00:46:00,227
Speaker 7: And yeah, so it's good. Good to get that one

882
00:46:00,707 --> 00:46:01,067
Speaker 7: for sure.

883
00:46:01,667 --> 00:46:03,947
Speaker 3: You came off the bench last weekend against the Highlanders

884
00:46:03,987 --> 00:46:07,667
Speaker 3: and nearly drove your side the victory there, handed the

885
00:46:07,707 --> 00:46:10,987
Speaker 3: starting first five role for the first time last night.

886
00:46:11,187 --> 00:46:14,187
Speaker 3: What was your approach to the game in general terms

887
00:46:14,227 --> 00:46:15,347
Speaker 3: and the starting teen jumper?

888
00:46:17,587 --> 00:46:20,427
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, just to me, nothing really changes, to be honest,

889
00:46:21,067 --> 00:46:25,467
Speaker 20: just prepw how I normally would prep. Obviously getting the

890
00:46:25,547 --> 00:46:29,347
Speaker 20: start it was big, but yeah, just kind of just

891
00:46:29,467 --> 00:46:31,587
Speaker 20: go about my week as I normally would any any

892
00:46:31,627 --> 00:46:32,387
Speaker 20: other game weeks.

893
00:46:33,427 --> 00:46:34,707
Speaker 3: I just want to ask you about a couple of

894
00:46:34,947 --> 00:46:38,107
Speaker 3: features of your game. You're kicking and play terrific last night,

895
00:46:38,307 --> 00:46:40,667
Speaker 3: big chunks of territory carved off of fifty twenty two

896
00:46:40,667 --> 00:46:43,627
Speaker 3: at one stage and on attack, you know, sit out

897
00:46:43,747 --> 00:46:46,987
Speaker 3: up a triffic Karen Tomoy for lal. How big a

898
00:46:47,027 --> 00:46:48,427
Speaker 3: part of your game and how hard do you work

899
00:46:48,507 --> 00:46:49,747
Speaker 3: on your kicking in play?

900
00:46:51,947 --> 00:46:55,427
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely, Like I definitely working out a lot. You know,

901
00:46:55,427 --> 00:46:56,947
Speaker 20: I pride myself for a lot of my kicking, and

902
00:46:57,027 --> 00:47:00,387
Speaker 20: so I was my attacking as well. So I think

903
00:47:01,067 --> 00:47:02,947
Speaker 20: we knew if we could get the ball in front

904
00:47:02,947 --> 00:47:06,747
Speaker 20: of the boys with our kicking game, those the big

905
00:47:06,787 --> 00:47:09,067
Speaker 20: boys up front could get the job done for us,

906
00:47:09,147 --> 00:47:11,307
Speaker 20: So you know, I just had to had to keep

907
00:47:11,347 --> 00:47:15,627
Speaker 20: them all in front of them, and yeah, just get

908
00:47:15,667 --> 00:47:16,547
Speaker 20: the job done after that.

909
00:47:16,867 --> 00:47:18,347
Speaker 3: And I know you probably don't want to talk about

910
00:47:18,387 --> 00:47:20,067
Speaker 3: yourself too much, so I'll move on in a moment.

911
00:47:20,107 --> 00:47:22,867
Speaker 3: But you can run as well. It led to another

912
00:47:22,947 --> 00:47:25,907
Speaker 3: try the triple thread of kick pass Run. Is that

913
00:47:26,027 --> 00:47:27,347
Speaker 3: something you also pride yourself on?

914
00:47:28,947 --> 00:47:32,107
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. You know, I love love my running game.

915
00:47:32,147 --> 00:47:32,667
Speaker 14: You know, I'm.

916
00:47:34,187 --> 00:47:36,067
Speaker 7: Kind of Yeah, just one one of my things that

917
00:47:36,867 --> 00:47:38,987
Speaker 7: you know, I've worked on throughout my career.

918
00:47:39,107 --> 00:47:43,027
Speaker 20: So definitely trying to trying to incorporate all of it,

919
00:47:43,107 --> 00:47:46,187
Speaker 20: you know, now the kid game, running game and yeah,

920
00:47:46,267 --> 00:47:49,627
Speaker 20: all that, so yeah, definitely working working on all of

921
00:47:49,667 --> 00:47:50,747
Speaker 20: that and trying trying.

922
00:47:50,587 --> 00:47:51,307
Speaker 7: To bring it all together.

923
00:47:52,467 --> 00:47:53,907
Speaker 3: A lot of the narrative and the lead up to

924
00:47:54,027 --> 00:47:56,907
Speaker 3: last night was about Ardie Savia facing his former side.

925
00:47:57,307 --> 00:47:59,707
Speaker 3: Of course, you lost him for the second half with

926
00:47:59,827 --> 00:48:03,187
Speaker 3: a tight hamstring. How did your rise above what could

927
00:48:03,187 --> 00:48:06,467
Speaker 3: have been a big psychological blow in losing Art for

928
00:48:06,547 --> 00:48:07,107
Speaker 3: the second half.

929
00:48:08,787 --> 00:48:12,267
Speaker 20: Yeah, sure, you can't can't play Sarty, you know, the

930
00:48:12,347 --> 00:48:15,227
Speaker 20: best player in the world. But you know, we've got

931
00:48:15,267 --> 00:48:17,747
Speaker 20: a got a good, good bench, got a lot of

932
00:48:17,787 --> 00:48:19,907
Speaker 20: depth in the squad, so we near the boys on

933
00:48:19,947 --> 00:48:22,467
Speaker 20: the bench could come and bring that energy, you know,

934
00:48:22,747 --> 00:48:25,747
Speaker 20: and just finish the job for us. So you know,

935
00:48:26,067 --> 00:48:28,227
Speaker 20: we knew, we knew we had that, just just had

936
00:48:28,267 --> 00:48:28,987
Speaker 20: to finish the job.

937
00:48:29,067 --> 00:48:29,347
Speaker 7: We've got.

938
00:48:29,427 --> 00:48:32,027
Speaker 20: We've got ourselves in a good position in that first half.

939
00:48:32,107 --> 00:48:34,787
Speaker 20: So yeah, the bottom on the bench.

940
00:48:34,747 --> 00:48:37,267
Speaker 3: Is come in and get the job done in the end,

941
00:48:37,667 --> 00:48:39,707
Speaker 3: as atis save the best player in the world. I

942
00:48:39,747 --> 00:48:42,027
Speaker 3: don't think you get too many arguments. Can you tell

943
00:48:42,107 --> 00:48:46,067
Speaker 3: us about his influence inside the Mona Pacific a playing group.

944
00:48:48,747 --> 00:48:51,307
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I can see on TV and that knows.

945
00:48:52,107 --> 00:48:54,187
Speaker 20: Very humble guy, very easy to get on with, and

946
00:48:54,987 --> 00:48:59,827
Speaker 20: just leads by example, you know, trained hard and then

947
00:49:00,667 --> 00:49:01,147
Speaker 20: shows up.

948
00:49:01,467 --> 00:49:02,467
Speaker 7: You can see it in the game.

949
00:49:02,587 --> 00:49:05,507
Speaker 20: So yeah, just I think that's the biggest thing from

950
00:49:05,587 --> 00:49:08,307
Speaker 20: him is won't ask you to do anything that he

951
00:49:08,387 --> 00:49:11,467
Speaker 20: won't do, so just leads from the front and lead

952
00:49:11,547 --> 00:49:13,107
Speaker 20: by example to these actions.

953
00:49:13,747 --> 00:49:16,147
Speaker 3: And another one of your loose forwards a youngster miracle

954
00:49:16,267 --> 00:49:18,507
Speaker 3: for a lungy scoring a het trick, the first hat

955
00:49:18,547 --> 00:49:21,187
Speaker 3: trick in mo Onea Pacific history. Actually, how do you

956
00:49:21,507 --> 00:49:24,387
Speaker 3: assess Simon rate them among the other young players? You've

957
00:49:24,387 --> 00:49:26,827
Speaker 3: had the chance to play alongside and against.

958
00:49:28,107 --> 00:49:31,987
Speaker 20: Yeah, he's a beast back, you know, a whole forward

959
00:49:32,027 --> 00:49:37,107
Speaker 20: packed unreal, but our loose forwards as well, then they're stacked,

960
00:49:37,147 --> 00:49:41,947
Speaker 20: and he's been on fire this year. He's strange power. Ye,

961
00:49:42,707 --> 00:49:46,387
Speaker 20: he's a free cathlete, and yeah, he was unreal yesterday

962
00:49:46,427 --> 00:49:49,587
Speaker 20: as well. Again, you know, like he has a north season.

963
00:49:50,587 --> 00:49:52,347
Speaker 3: The Hurricanes came out, You're pretty hard in the last

964
00:49:52,387 --> 00:49:54,547
Speaker 3: ten minutes, didn't They got a couple of tries to

965
00:49:54,667 --> 00:49:58,027
Speaker 3: reduce the margin. What sort of conversations were going on

966
00:49:58,187 --> 00:50:01,067
Speaker 3: out there as you defended your lead and defended your

967
00:50:01,147 --> 00:50:02,587
Speaker 3: line late in the game.

968
00:50:04,947 --> 00:50:08,507
Speaker 7: Yeah, gave us a bit of a scare. We're kind

969
00:50:08,547 --> 00:50:11,027
Speaker 7: of just you know, we had a good lead, just

970
00:50:11,107 --> 00:50:14,427
Speaker 7: kind of just need to do our jobs.

971
00:50:14,507 --> 00:50:16,307
Speaker 20: You know, a couple of miss tackles here and there,

972
00:50:16,707 --> 00:50:18,227
Speaker 20: we kind of we knew what they were going out

973
00:50:18,227 --> 00:50:19,907
Speaker 20: of but yeah, we just kind of slipped off a

974
00:50:19,947 --> 00:50:20,307
Speaker 20: bit there.

975
00:50:21,307 --> 00:50:24,387
Speaker 7: But yeah, luckily, luckily we just held on at the end.

976
00:50:25,427 --> 00:50:27,507
Speaker 3: And scoring points hasn't been a problem for you. One

977
00:50:27,627 --> 00:50:29,867
Speaker 3: hundred and forty nine across your four games, So that's

978
00:50:30,427 --> 00:50:32,907
Speaker 3: that's going well. Is defense? Do you think one of

979
00:50:32,987 --> 00:50:35,187
Speaker 3: your your bigger work ons as you move forward.

980
00:50:38,107 --> 00:50:40,387
Speaker 20: Really, I think our defense is really solid, you know,

981
00:50:40,787 --> 00:50:43,827
Speaker 20: it's just I think in moments were kind of it's

982
00:50:43,867 --> 00:50:46,547
Speaker 20: just kind of putting a putting together eighty minute performance.

983
00:50:46,627 --> 00:50:49,427
Speaker 20: You know, we sometimes we kind of just switch off

984
00:50:49,467 --> 00:50:53,827
Speaker 20: in moments and you know, lose momentum for a blocker period.

985
00:50:53,987 --> 00:50:57,067
Speaker 20: Because our defense, Yeah, it's solid and we can we

986
00:50:57,147 --> 00:51:00,387
Speaker 20: can stop teams pretty pretty pretty well. So I think

987
00:51:00,427 --> 00:51:03,787
Speaker 20: it's just kind of putting together an eighty minute performance

988
00:51:04,147 --> 00:51:07,667
Speaker 20: and just not switching off for for big blocks of

989
00:51:08,067 --> 00:51:08,467
Speaker 20: blocks of.

990
00:51:08,467 --> 00:51:10,827
Speaker 3: The game and just just back to you to finish.

991
00:51:11,107 --> 00:51:14,787
Speaker 3: You're coming off too terrific seasons with Coventry. But was

992
00:51:14,827 --> 00:51:18,107
Speaker 3: it a pretty easy yes when you offer the chance

993
00:51:18,147 --> 00:51:21,267
Speaker 3: to play super rugby for more one, Yeah.

994
00:51:21,187 --> 00:51:21,547
Speaker 9: For sure.

995
00:51:21,947 --> 00:51:25,587
Speaker 20: I think you know, it's a dream to play super

996
00:51:25,667 --> 00:51:28,427
Speaker 20: rugby since I was a kid, and you know, I

997
00:51:28,507 --> 00:51:30,427
Speaker 20: wanted to kind of move back closer to home and

998
00:51:31,307 --> 00:51:36,907
Speaker 20: closet opportunity to play for more on closer closer to

999
00:51:37,067 --> 00:51:39,747
Speaker 20: my home and also closer to my roots, you know,

1000
00:51:39,987 --> 00:51:43,947
Speaker 20: in terms of my culture and all that. So yeah,

1001
00:51:43,987 --> 00:51:46,707
Speaker 20: it was pretty pretty easy, yes, when when that came through.

1002
00:51:46,907 --> 00:51:49,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I bet the your teammates were pretty happy.

1003
00:51:49,947 --> 00:51:52,347
Speaker 3: How about that crowd last night. You're starting to build

1004
00:51:52,387 --> 00:51:55,387
Speaker 3: quite a quite a cool base of supporters at at Albany,

1005
00:51:55,387 --> 00:51:55,667
Speaker 3: aren't you.

1006
00:51:56,947 --> 00:52:01,107
Speaker 20: Yeah, fans are unreal, you know, Pacific specific fans all

1007
00:52:01,147 --> 00:52:05,627
Speaker 20: around the world, you know, you know all of them

1008
00:52:05,867 --> 00:52:09,827
Speaker 20: they are. Yeah, Yeah, They're huge and very loud, very vocal,

1009
00:52:09,987 --> 00:52:12,987
Speaker 20: so been behind us. Definitely definitely helped to get us

1010
00:52:13,027 --> 00:52:15,107
Speaker 20: over the finish line yesterday.

1011
00:52:15,787 --> 00:52:18,387
Speaker 3: Congrats on the win, Patrick, first of many. I'm sure

1012
00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:21,307
Speaker 3: this season terrific performance from you personally as well.

1013
00:52:21,347 --> 00:52:21,507
Speaker 8: Mate.

1014
00:52:21,507 --> 00:52:22,827
Speaker 3: Thanks for taking the time for a chat and all

1015
00:52:22,867 --> 00:52:23,107
Speaker 3: the best.

1016
00:52:24,147 --> 00:52:25,827
Speaker 7: Oh good, thank you, Jason, appreciate it now.

1017
00:52:25,907 --> 00:52:28,947
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time, Patrick, Patrick Palegrini there and

1018
00:52:29,027 --> 00:52:30,947
Speaker 3: the first five jumper for more onea Pacific. I had

1019
00:52:30,987 --> 00:52:33,227
Speaker 3: to wait for a bit, Jackson Garden. Bishop wore the

1020
00:52:33,307 --> 00:52:36,307
Speaker 3: ten jumper in the first three games. Patrick Pellegrini off

1021
00:52:36,347 --> 00:52:38,067
Speaker 3: the bench last week and almost got them home against

1022
00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:41,627
Speaker 3: the Highlanders. Started there last night and one from one

1023
00:52:42,227 --> 00:52:45,107
Speaker 3: the Villing. He'll take ownership of that jersey for the

1024
00:52:45,227 --> 00:52:47,467
Speaker 3: next little while. Let's talk some super rugby, oh, eight

1025
00:52:47,627 --> 00:52:49,627
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty anything you want to pick

1026
00:52:49,707 --> 00:52:54,947
Speaker 3: up on. I loved that last night from Mowana Pacifica,

1027
00:52:57,267 --> 00:53:00,347
Speaker 3: and that is taking into account the fact that it

1028
00:53:00,467 --> 00:53:02,907
Speaker 3: was against the team that I followed, the Hurricanes. But

1029
00:53:02,987 --> 00:53:06,987
Speaker 3: they deserved that win. They absolutely deserved it. And if

1030
00:53:07,027 --> 00:53:09,827
Speaker 3: you said before the game, okay, Ardie Savi is only

1031
00:53:09,867 --> 00:53:12,787
Speaker 3: going to play forty minutes, you would have worried about

1032
00:53:12,827 --> 00:53:15,707
Speaker 3: the impact that that might have had. As they walked

1033
00:53:15,707 --> 00:53:18,507
Speaker 3: out in the second half, WAA Pacifica without Ardie Savier

1034
00:53:18,827 --> 00:53:20,507
Speaker 3: could easily have thought, man, this is going to be

1035
00:53:20,587 --> 00:53:24,347
Speaker 3: tough without our talisman, without our skipper, without as Patrick

1036
00:53:24,387 --> 00:53:26,427
Speaker 3: Pellegrine he said, the best player in the world, but

1037
00:53:26,547 --> 00:53:32,027
Speaker 3: Mana Pacifica stepped up in his absence. Miracle fight yar langy.

1038
00:53:32,787 --> 00:53:36,827
Speaker 3: What a player. What a magnificent prospect. I say prospect.

1039
00:53:36,867 --> 00:53:40,387
Speaker 3: He's twenty five, but he's only really been I guess

1040
00:53:40,467 --> 00:53:43,027
Speaker 3: around the Super Rugby scene for a couple of years.

1041
00:53:43,067 --> 00:53:47,067
Speaker 3: I think he debuted in twenty twenty three. What a player.

1042
00:53:48,187 --> 00:53:50,307
Speaker 3: It's only one game. I know it's only one game,

1043
00:53:50,347 --> 00:53:54,187
Speaker 3: but if they keep playing like that, Mina Pacifica will

1044
00:53:54,227 --> 00:53:57,227
Speaker 3: have their best ever Super Rugby season and then you're

1045
00:53:57,227 --> 00:54:01,547
Speaker 3: add in the Fiji and Drewer winners in Lautoka against

1046
00:54:01,587 --> 00:54:05,667
Speaker 3: the previously unbeaten Chiefs at home. The Fijian Drewer are

1047
00:54:05,787 --> 00:54:10,787
Speaker 3: formidable and as Elliot Smith said in his final whistle

1048
00:54:10,867 --> 00:54:15,267
Speaker 3: commentary there last night, it's called super rakby Pacific and

1049
00:54:16,267 --> 00:54:19,787
Speaker 3: the Fiji and Drewer and Mowana Pacifica are well and

1050
00:54:19,867 --> 00:54:23,347
Speaker 3: truly in the game. Losses for the Blues, the Chiefs

1051
00:54:23,547 --> 00:54:26,627
Speaker 3: and the Hurricanes so far this weekend. No game for

1052
00:54:26,667 --> 00:54:29,827
Speaker 3: the Highlanders. They've got the buye. But if the Reds

1053
00:54:30,427 --> 00:54:32,987
Speaker 3: were to tip up the Crusaders this afternoon in christ Church,

1054
00:54:33,027 --> 00:54:36,147
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't beyond the realms of possibility. They've won

1055
00:54:36,227 --> 00:54:39,747
Speaker 3: their first two matches. They're two from two. If the

1056
00:54:39,787 --> 00:54:41,987
Speaker 3: Reds were to win this afternoon, it would be the

1057
00:54:42,107 --> 00:54:48,107
Speaker 3: first time since Round four in twenty thirteen that four

1058
00:54:48,187 --> 00:54:51,467
Speaker 3: New Zealand teams have all lost on the same weekend.

1059
00:54:53,547 --> 00:54:56,107
Speaker 3: Regardless of what happens this afternoon in christ Church, the

1060
00:54:56,227 --> 00:54:59,107
Speaker 3: Hurricanes and the Blues will end the weekend in the

1061
00:54:59,187 --> 00:55:05,787
Speaker 3: bottom three, probably the two best sides last season in

1062
00:55:05,907 --> 00:55:10,027
Speaker 3: terms of the the regular season. At the moment, all

1063
00:55:10,147 --> 00:55:14,267
Speaker 3: four Australian sides are in the top six. But the

1064
00:55:14,387 --> 00:55:18,227
Speaker 3: table is so tight that if the Crusaders were to

1065
00:55:18,307 --> 00:55:21,347
Speaker 3: beat the Reds this afternoon with a bonus points and

1066
00:55:21,587 --> 00:55:25,187
Speaker 3: by a margin of twenty seven points or more, they

1067
00:55:25,227 --> 00:55:29,307
Speaker 3: would jump from eleventh to third on the table. In

1068
00:55:29,387 --> 00:55:32,267
Speaker 3: the space of eighty minutes, they'll jump up eight places.

1069
00:55:32,467 --> 00:55:37,067
Speaker 3: Isn't this what we've wanted for so long? A competitive

1070
00:55:37,307 --> 00:55:41,947
Speaker 3: Super rugby competition where the Australian sides are strong, Mina

1071
00:55:41,987 --> 00:55:47,027
Speaker 3: Pacifica are strong, the Fiji and Dreuer are strong, when

1072
00:55:47,147 --> 00:55:49,547
Speaker 3: from week to week, from game to game, you simply

1073
00:55:49,627 --> 00:55:53,507
Speaker 3: don't know who's going to win. Isn't that the bedrock

1074
00:55:53,587 --> 00:55:58,547
Speaker 3: of any attractive sporting competition that on their day anybody

1075
00:55:58,667 --> 00:56:01,027
Speaker 3: can beat anybody. And in amongst all of this, we're

1076
00:56:01,067 --> 00:56:07,307
Speaker 3: still getting lots of tries, high scoring games. Jack Newsley

1077
00:56:07,387 --> 00:56:09,907
Speaker 3: was on the show yesterday he must have been again

1078
00:56:10,107 --> 00:56:14,787
Speaker 3: delighted with what has played out over the weekend. The

1079
00:56:14,827 --> 00:56:17,107
Speaker 3: Brumbi is getting home against the Blues twenty one to twenty,

1080
00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,067
Speaker 3: the Fiji and Drewer beating the Chiefs twenty eight twenty four,

1081
00:56:20,147 --> 00:56:23,627
Speaker 3: Minor Pacifica as mentioned, forty thirty one winners over the Hurricanes,

1082
00:56:23,667 --> 00:56:26,747
Speaker 3: the outlier was the Waratas comfortably beating the force last

1083
00:56:26,827 --> 00:56:29,667
Speaker 3: night by thirty four points to ten. Crusaders reads to

1084
00:56:29,947 --> 00:56:33,467
Speaker 3: finish things this afternoon. This is what we've wanted. So

1085
00:56:33,547 --> 00:56:35,987
Speaker 3: what are you seeing? And I mentioned just before the

1086
00:56:36,067 --> 00:56:39,107
Speaker 3: one o'clock news as I watched those scenes from Lao

1087
00:56:39,187 --> 00:56:45,467
Speaker 3: Tooky yesterday and the utter fanaticism of the Fijian rugby

1088
00:56:45,587 --> 00:56:48,987
Speaker 3: crowd and the occasion that has created whenever the Fiji

1089
00:56:49,187 --> 00:56:52,427
Speaker 3: drew play Super Rugby at home. I got a message

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00:56:52,427 --> 00:56:56,667
Speaker 3: from Andy actually and he said, surely we take Super

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00:56:56,787 --> 00:57:03,267
Speaker 3: Round two Fiji Super Round in Fiji. All teams, well

1092
00:57:03,347 --> 00:57:07,187
Speaker 3: ten of them anyway, under the current structure, ten teams

1093
00:57:07,947 --> 00:57:12,707
Speaker 3: all up in Fiji for a weekend. And I you know,

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00:57:12,827 --> 00:57:14,147
Speaker 3: I know what people are going to say, Oh, I no,

1095
00:57:14,267 --> 00:57:16,147
Speaker 3: you couldn't have Yeah, I know, you couldn't have five

1096
00:57:16,187 --> 00:57:17,747
Speaker 3: games on one perchin and what if it rains and

1097
00:57:17,747 --> 00:57:19,947
Speaker 3: all that sort of thing. All the yeah butt merchants

1098
00:57:19,987 --> 00:57:23,107
Speaker 3: will come out, but it wouldn't have to play them

1099
00:57:23,107 --> 00:57:25,387
Speaker 3: all than Tokyo. You could have a couple of games there,

1100
00:57:25,387 --> 00:57:29,667
Speaker 3: a couple of games in Suva. You just work it out.

1101
00:57:30,627 --> 00:57:35,787
Speaker 3: But Super Round in Fiji? What about it Oh eight

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00:57:35,907 --> 00:57:38,707
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two on text.

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00:57:38,787 --> 00:57:40,507
Speaker 3: Heaps of texts coming through, but I'm keen to hear

1104
00:57:40,947 --> 00:57:43,347
Speaker 3: your overall summation as we're nearing the end of round

1105
00:57:43,467 --> 00:57:46,427
Speaker 3: four of Super Rugby where we have the Chiefs still

1106
00:57:46,427 --> 00:57:48,747
Speaker 3: at the top of the table on fourteen points, the

1107
00:57:48,827 --> 00:57:52,787
Speaker 3: Warrtars on thirteen after another one last night. We'd actually

1108
00:57:52,787 --> 00:57:54,787
Speaker 3: I should have mentioned, has them of with one hundred

1109
00:57:54,787 --> 00:57:57,907
Speaker 3: percent record. The only team who have played three games

1110
00:57:58,307 --> 00:58:01,227
Speaker 3: and won all three one of the Reds or the Crusaders.

1111
00:58:01,267 --> 00:58:02,907
Speaker 3: We know the Crusaders seven won both games that they

1112
00:58:02,947 --> 00:58:04,867
Speaker 3: have the Reads win this afternoon they'll be three from three,

1113
00:58:06,627 --> 00:58:10,227
Speaker 3: but this table can change in the space of a

1114
00:58:10,267 --> 00:58:14,707
Speaker 3: game or two. Again, this is what we've wanted. Super

1115
00:58:14,787 --> 00:58:19,507
Speaker 3: Rugby Pacific is getting it right. Oh eight hundred and

1116
00:58:19,547 --> 00:58:21,387
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty nineteen nine to two one text one

1117
00:58:21,467 --> 00:58:23,427
Speaker 3: twenty three. Back with your calls on the rugby after.

1118
00:58:23,347 --> 00:58:27,187
Speaker 1: This the Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport

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00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:31,467
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vyn and GJ. Gunner Homes New

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00:58:31,547 --> 00:58:33,627
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted oh Builder News.

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00:58:33,507 --> 00:58:37,307
Speaker 3: TALKSB one twenty six on News talks NB. Joe says,

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00:58:37,387 --> 00:58:38,627
Speaker 3: I may be off the mart, but I feel the

1123
00:58:38,667 --> 00:58:41,547
Speaker 3: refereeing in this year's Super Rugby season has contributed to

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00:58:41,627 --> 00:58:43,947
Speaker 3: the comp being a lot more enjoyable. It appears that

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00:58:44,027 --> 00:58:45,987
Speaker 3: the on field ref has been given full control of

1126
00:58:46,027 --> 00:58:49,787
Speaker 3: the game, with the TMO only intervening when requested and required.

1127
00:58:49,827 --> 00:58:52,347
Speaker 3: Games are flowing and the players appear to be enjoying it.

1128
00:58:52,507 --> 00:58:54,667
Speaker 3: It makes for a great watch, with the added excitement

1129
00:58:54,667 --> 00:58:57,187
Speaker 3: of perhaps any team being able to beat any other

1130
00:58:57,547 --> 00:59:00,387
Speaker 3: on any particular day. More of the same place, Joe,

1131
00:59:00,427 --> 00:59:03,547
Speaker 3: I think you bang on, absolutely bang on. The less

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00:59:03,587 --> 00:59:04,947
Speaker 3: TMO involvement.

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00:59:04,547 --> 00:59:05,107
Speaker 2: The better.

1134
00:59:06,787 --> 00:59:08,987
Speaker 3: I think. I don't think you'll get an argument from anybody.

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00:59:09,027 --> 00:59:13,027
Speaker 3: Probably not even the TMOS would disagree, can I? Phil?

1136
00:59:14,347 --> 00:59:15,107
Speaker 21: Okay, Finny?

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00:59:15,147 --> 00:59:16,187
Speaker 16: How are you great?

1138
00:59:16,227 --> 00:59:16,427
Speaker 8: Phil?

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00:59:16,747 --> 00:59:18,827
Speaker 21: You not too bad?

1140
00:59:19,027 --> 00:59:19,547
Speaker 7: Not too bad?

1141
00:59:19,667 --> 00:59:19,907
Speaker 6: Next?

1142
00:59:20,307 --> 00:59:22,987
Speaker 22: But yeah, no, that's good with Joe text in it,

1143
00:59:23,147 --> 00:59:26,707
Speaker 22: because I hadn't thought of that, But as soon as

1144
00:59:26,747 --> 00:59:29,107
Speaker 22: you read it out, I thought, yeah, that's being on

1145
00:59:29,187 --> 00:59:33,227
Speaker 22: the money. That's another thing that seems to be It

1146
00:59:33,267 --> 00:59:37,547
Speaker 22: seems to be good as well with less TMO, less TMO,

1147
00:59:39,427 --> 00:59:42,187
Speaker 22: less TMOS being involved, you know, and stowing the game

1148
00:59:42,267 --> 00:59:45,027
Speaker 22: and stopping the game and going back ten faders, you know,

1149
00:59:45,147 --> 00:59:49,867
Speaker 22: to see something that happened and then yeah, yeah.

1150
00:59:49,667 --> 00:59:52,547
Speaker 3: We'll want to We'll want accuracy. We'll want accuracy and

1151
00:59:52,587 --> 00:59:54,947
Speaker 3: decision making, Phil, don't we But not at the expenses

1152
00:59:55,027 --> 00:59:59,507
Speaker 3: you say of, you know, interminably long delays and play.

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01:00:00,787 --> 01:00:00,987
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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01:00:01,227 --> 01:00:03,427
Speaker 22: Yeah, because that's what puts people off, you know, And

1155
01:00:03,467 --> 01:00:05,867
Speaker 22: I think that was the trouble. Part of the trouble

1156
01:00:05,947 --> 01:00:08,907
Speaker 22: last year. Yeah, you know that the involvement of is

1157
01:00:08,987 --> 01:00:12,827
Speaker 22: becoming excessive and getting over the top and it draw Yeah,

1158
01:00:12,907 --> 01:00:14,947
Speaker 22: that just draws people away from the game, puts them

1159
01:00:14,987 --> 01:00:17,547
Speaker 22: off and I'll go and watch the league or something

1160
01:00:17,747 --> 01:00:19,987
Speaker 22: like that. But yeah, it was a good point that

1161
01:00:20,107 --> 01:00:22,467
Speaker 22: Joe texts through there. But I think these new rule

1162
01:00:22,627 --> 01:00:26,307
Speaker 22: changes and that have really made an impact and sped

1163
01:00:26,347 --> 01:00:28,707
Speaker 22: the game up and made it a lot better.

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01:00:28,827 --> 01:00:28,987
Speaker 23: You know.

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01:00:30,107 --> 01:00:32,067
Speaker 22: I don't know all the ins and outs and the rules.

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01:00:32,107 --> 01:00:35,747
Speaker 22: Andy mentioned a couple, but I noticed, especially with the scrums.

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01:00:35,787 --> 01:00:38,347
Speaker 22: Now now you're not mucking around and it's not stopping

1168
01:00:38,427 --> 01:00:40,347
Speaker 22: and starting so much, and it's get the ball and

1169
01:00:40,507 --> 01:00:42,387
Speaker 22: get it out. And if it goes down a couple

1170
01:00:42,467 --> 01:00:45,027
Speaker 22: of times and it's a penalty instead of resetting three

1171
01:00:45,147 --> 01:00:47,867
Speaker 22: or four or five times, and then there was one

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01:00:47,907 --> 01:00:49,827
Speaker 22: where it took if you take too long to throw

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01:00:49,907 --> 01:00:52,067
Speaker 22: the ball in the line out and the tap and

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01:00:52,187 --> 01:00:55,427
Speaker 22: go option as well. So yeah, and I thought too,

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01:00:55,587 --> 01:00:59,947
Speaker 22: like I watched all the games last night, and I

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01:01:00,067 --> 01:01:04,667
Speaker 22: watched the drawer first half last week and they impressed me.

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01:01:05,027 --> 01:01:07,227
Speaker 22: And I don't think they went on to win, but

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01:01:07,907 --> 01:01:11,027
Speaker 22: for the first half, I thought, these boys are looking good,

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01:01:11,107 --> 01:01:13,587
Speaker 22: the old Fiji duo. So I'll be watching out for them.

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01:01:14,067 --> 01:01:15,747
Speaker 22: They'll get a few wins under the belt. And I

1181
01:01:15,827 --> 01:01:20,267
Speaker 22: always thought, uh, Moana specific, we're going to win. It

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01:01:20,427 --> 01:01:23,307
Speaker 22: was just a matter of win. And they'll win more

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01:01:23,347 --> 01:01:26,147
Speaker 22: as well. I think, you know, they'll be another one

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01:01:26,227 --> 01:01:29,667
Speaker 22: to watch because they just had those once they put

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01:01:29,747 --> 01:01:33,667
Speaker 22: those moments of sort of lapses that I think they

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01:01:33,747 --> 01:01:35,867
Speaker 22: called them one percent is you know that in the

1187
01:01:36,027 --> 01:01:38,067
Speaker 22: rugby terms they use now and that sort of thing.

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01:01:38,147 --> 01:01:40,147
Speaker 22: But when they had that sort of little moments of

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01:01:40,227 --> 01:01:42,307
Speaker 22: lack of defense, like the the guy that you were

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01:01:42,387 --> 01:01:45,827
Speaker 22: interviewing was saying, like at the end of the Hurricanes game,

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01:01:45,907 --> 01:01:49,107
Speaker 22: even though they won, gee, if that game had gone

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01:01:49,187 --> 01:01:52,427
Speaker 22: on another five minutes and that last ten the way

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01:01:52,467 --> 01:01:55,187
Speaker 22: the Hurricanes got those tries and they started dropping off

1194
01:01:55,227 --> 01:01:57,107
Speaker 22: a couple of tackles. I don't know whether they just

1195
01:01:57,187 --> 01:01:59,907
Speaker 22: kind of relaxed a bit or what happened. So once

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01:01:59,987 --> 01:02:04,267
Speaker 22: they get nailed that down as well, yeah, they're gonna

1197
01:02:04,307 --> 01:02:06,907
Speaker 22: be They're gonna have quite a few wins, I imagine.

1198
01:02:06,947 --> 01:02:09,707
Speaker 22: But looking forward to the Crusaders today.

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01:02:09,867 --> 01:02:11,267
Speaker 11: But yeah, the whole.

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01:02:11,107 --> 01:02:14,067
Speaker 22: Competition I think is really good. I'm really liking it.

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01:02:14,547 --> 01:02:17,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, Phil, I'm exactly the same. You've summed it up beautifully.

1202
01:02:18,747 --> 01:02:20,907
Speaker 3: The Fiji Andrew. If the Fiji and Drewer can find

1203
01:02:20,947 --> 01:02:24,347
Speaker 3: a way to win away from home, they will be

1204
01:02:24,387 --> 01:02:28,547
Speaker 3: an absolute force because they are so so difficult to

1205
01:02:28,587 --> 01:02:31,627
Speaker 3: beat at home. In fact, it's now at the point

1206
01:02:31,667 --> 01:02:36,667
Speaker 3: where if they win in Lovetoker or Suva or at

1207
01:02:36,707 --> 01:02:39,227
Speaker 3: home at all, it's not a surprise anymore. Someone's made

1208
01:02:39,227 --> 01:02:43,107
Speaker 3: the point. It wasn't a surprise to see the Fiji

1209
01:02:43,147 --> 01:02:46,547
Speaker 3: Andrew beat the Chiefs yesterday. In Fiji. It's no longer

1210
01:02:46,627 --> 01:02:48,627
Speaker 3: a surprise. In fact, the biggest surprise was when they

1211
01:02:48,747 --> 01:02:51,947
Speaker 3: lost to the Brumbies at home in round one in Suva.

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01:02:52,387 --> 01:02:56,427
Speaker 3: That was the biggest surprise. Winda pacifica Yeah, there's still

1213
01:02:56,467 --> 01:02:58,747
Speaker 3: some way to go, but last night we'll give them

1214
01:02:58,827 --> 01:03:02,507
Speaker 3: huge confidence and looking at their players. And I've had

1215
01:03:02,547 --> 01:03:04,827
Speaker 3: a message here that David Natha, who we had on

1216
01:03:04,907 --> 01:03:07,147
Speaker 3: the show back in a line next year from memory

1217
01:03:07,547 --> 01:03:11,067
Speaker 3: or sort of midway through last year mental skills coach,

1218
01:03:11,187 --> 01:03:13,627
Speaker 3: is now one of Pacific as mental skills coach. I

1219
01:03:13,667 --> 01:03:16,187
Speaker 3: didn't know that, but I was impressed by David Nitha

1220
01:03:16,227 --> 01:03:18,227
Speaker 3: when he came in to talk about his book last year.

1221
01:03:18,747 --> 01:03:23,027
Speaker 3: So lookase he's involved in a sporting organization, then that

1222
01:03:23,107 --> 01:03:25,867
Speaker 3: will only be to the improvement of that organization, Mike

1223
01:03:25,907 --> 01:03:28,867
Speaker 3: says on email. So far Super Rugby has been terrific,

1224
01:03:28,987 --> 01:03:33,027
Speaker 3: fast and thrilling, heaps of tries, lots of running. The

1225
01:03:33,147 --> 01:03:35,747
Speaker 3: attempt by rugby Union boss to speed up the game

1226
01:03:36,107 --> 01:03:39,507
Speaker 3: and make it more like the NRL, which has huge support,

1227
01:03:40,027 --> 01:03:43,427
Speaker 3: is though going to backfire badly when it comes to

1228
01:03:43,547 --> 01:03:47,947
Speaker 3: international test matches. Right now, any of the six Nations

1229
01:03:48,027 --> 01:03:50,787
Speaker 3: teams would be a match for the All Blacks and Australia,

1230
01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:53,627
Speaker 3: says Mike. Mike, I have to disagree with that. I

1231
01:03:53,667 --> 01:03:55,907
Speaker 3: don't think Italy would be and I don't think Wales

1232
01:03:55,947 --> 01:03:58,707
Speaker 3: would be. I think you can chalk those two off

1233
01:03:58,787 --> 01:04:02,307
Speaker 3: straight away as not not being a match for us.

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01:04:02,547 --> 01:04:05,067
Speaker 3: But your point is valid, And Mike goes on to

1235
01:04:05,107 --> 01:04:07,947
Speaker 3: say comparing Super rugby Test rugby is like comparing T

1236
01:04:08,107 --> 01:04:10,347
Speaker 3: twenty to Test cricket, and I guess that would be

1237
01:04:10,387 --> 01:04:16,667
Speaker 3: the collateral damage. And it's another interesting little conversation point

1238
01:04:17,747 --> 01:04:20,107
Speaker 3: text here on the same issue. Super rugby is amazing,

1239
01:04:20,187 --> 01:04:22,507
Speaker 3: but the rest of the world don't play touch and giggle.

1240
01:04:23,227 --> 01:04:26,187
Speaker 3: This texter has called it. Well, I guess we'll wait

1241
01:04:26,227 --> 01:04:28,307
Speaker 3: and find out, won't we. I guess we'll wait and

1242
01:04:28,347 --> 01:04:33,107
Speaker 3: see when the international season rolls around whether it has

1243
01:04:33,227 --> 01:04:35,267
Speaker 3: been something that will be to the detriment of the

1244
01:04:35,307 --> 01:04:38,147
Speaker 3: All Blacks. As I've said often on the show, though

1245
01:04:38,187 --> 01:04:41,507
Speaker 3: it's not up to Super Rugby bosses, coaches, those involved

1246
01:04:41,547 --> 01:04:45,107
Speaker 3: in Super Rugby too to just do the bidding of

1247
01:04:45,187 --> 01:04:48,987
Speaker 3: the All Blacks. Scott Robertson can't go into any of

1248
01:04:49,027 --> 01:04:52,467
Speaker 3: the New Zealand franchises and say, hey, tone it down

1249
01:04:52,507 --> 01:04:54,507
Speaker 3: a bit, I'd prefer you play this way, or hey,

1250
01:04:54,547 --> 01:04:56,107
Speaker 3: I need you to play that bloke at that position.

1251
01:04:56,507 --> 01:04:59,187
Speaker 3: He can't do it. He could suggest it. They've got

1252
01:04:59,267 --> 01:05:02,747
Speaker 3: no obligation to listen at all, it's those coaches responsibility

1253
01:05:02,827 --> 01:05:05,267
Speaker 3: to win Super Rugby games for their teams.

1254
01:05:05,427 --> 01:05:08,547
Speaker 16: Richard, Hi, Yeah, Hi, good morning, afternoon.

1255
01:05:08,667 --> 01:05:08,827
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1256
01:05:08,827 --> 01:05:11,787
Speaker 17: I just wanted to bring up regarding the well, I

1257
01:05:11,907 --> 01:05:15,187
Speaker 17: think high probability of no New Zealand teams winning this weekend.

1258
01:05:17,467 --> 01:05:17,507
Speaker 11: Me.

1259
01:05:17,627 --> 01:05:20,027
Speaker 17: I don't think any of the losses have been surprises.

1260
01:05:20,307 --> 01:05:25,307
Speaker 17: I think all the teams Pasifuka, Fiji and even the

1261
01:05:25,347 --> 01:05:29,107
Speaker 17: Brumbies all deserved to win. And I think that I

1262
01:05:29,147 --> 01:05:30,947
Speaker 17: think it's going to show them the Zealand teams they

1263
01:05:30,987 --> 01:05:33,987
Speaker 17: can't take any team lightly and they've got to be

1264
01:05:34,107 --> 01:05:36,947
Speaker 17: on their game each weekend. It's sort of I like it.

1265
01:05:37,107 --> 01:05:40,467
Speaker 17: It's much better. I like the referee much much better,

1266
01:05:40,587 --> 01:05:43,747
Speaker 17: trying to get rid of all the time wasting and

1267
01:05:43,827 --> 01:05:47,067
Speaker 17: getting the game flowing. So it's become a full squad

1268
01:05:47,187 --> 01:05:50,067
Speaker 17: game and that helps because you know, if teams aren't

1269
01:05:50,067 --> 01:05:54,507
Speaker 17: fit enough, they'll get found out and so they should be. Yeah,

1270
01:05:54,587 --> 01:05:57,627
Speaker 17: that's pretty much where I'm at. But yeah, in terms

1271
01:05:57,667 --> 01:05:59,707
Speaker 17: of all these Isling teams, I think I think the

1272
01:05:59,947 --> 01:06:02,387
Speaker 17: Cleans and read is what they're playing is ridiculous. And

1273
01:06:02,467 --> 01:06:05,427
Speaker 17: I think even though the Crusaders have a top team

1274
01:06:05,507 --> 01:06:08,267
Speaker 17: on probably for the long while on the field this week,

1275
01:06:08,387 --> 01:06:10,627
Speaker 17: I just got a funny feeling that the Reds will

1276
01:06:10,747 --> 01:06:11,227
Speaker 17: took them up.

1277
01:06:12,107 --> 01:06:13,827
Speaker 3: You think the Reds will, But yeah, did you just

1278
01:06:13,867 --> 01:06:15,387
Speaker 3: mention the odds there, I've just looked at them. Now,

1279
01:06:15,467 --> 01:06:18,907
Speaker 3: Crusader's a dollar twenty reads for twenty. You're on the

1280
01:06:18,907 --> 01:06:20,467
Speaker 3: back of the Reds. You should get on that.

1281
01:06:21,507 --> 01:06:22,307
Speaker 6: I have been already.

1282
01:06:22,467 --> 01:06:26,627
Speaker 17: Just keep calling you know what, you know, that's what

1283
01:06:26,747 --> 01:06:28,707
Speaker 17: beating it. You can take your position and you go

1284
01:06:28,867 --> 01:06:30,507
Speaker 17: for and if it works out, it works. Out of

1285
01:06:30,547 --> 01:06:33,067
Speaker 17: a dozen it doesn't. But so far I've done all

1286
01:06:33,107 --> 01:06:37,347
Speaker 17: right on the drew in Pacifica so quite heavy.

1287
01:06:38,067 --> 01:06:41,707
Speaker 3: Nice. I wonder at what point, Richard, they'll start like

1288
01:06:42,027 --> 01:06:44,067
Speaker 3: those who sit the odds at the tab will start

1289
01:06:44,107 --> 01:06:46,747
Speaker 3: thinking along the same lines you are, and that actually

1290
01:06:47,027 --> 01:06:49,187
Speaker 3: we can't make the drawer or more on the Pacifica

1291
01:06:49,387 --> 01:06:52,307
Speaker 3: or any of the Australian teams rank outside as anymore.

1292
01:06:52,467 --> 01:06:54,307
Speaker 3: Is it going to continue to bite us? I mean,

1293
01:06:54,507 --> 01:06:56,107
Speaker 3: you know, it's all driven, of course, as you know,

1294
01:06:56,227 --> 01:06:58,147
Speaker 3: by the amount of money that comes in. And I'm

1295
01:06:58,147 --> 01:07:00,147
Speaker 3: sure there's a lot of money on the Crusaders this afternoon.

1296
01:07:00,267 --> 01:07:01,987
Speaker 3: But you're right, the reads could easily win that game.

1297
01:07:02,947 --> 01:07:05,587
Speaker 17: But I was just surprised when I heard how many

1298
01:07:05,667 --> 01:07:08,027
Speaker 17: players of the Hellen players were injured. They mentioned a

1299
01:07:08,067 --> 01:07:11,627
Speaker 17: figure of fifty players. They're basically king in pro team,

1300
01:07:11,707 --> 01:07:14,147
Speaker 17: isn't it. Obviously some teams have got more or less,

1301
01:07:14,227 --> 01:07:17,107
Speaker 17: but I just think that's such a high attrition rate already.

1302
01:07:17,827 --> 01:07:19,227
Speaker 8: And that's the big thing.

1303
01:07:19,307 --> 01:07:23,427
Speaker 17: It's teams being able to keep their top players playing

1304
01:07:23,867 --> 01:07:26,787
Speaker 17: but in keep them in a good enough shape for

1305
01:07:26,947 --> 01:07:29,587
Speaker 17: the towards the end of the season when the playoffs come,

1306
01:07:29,827 --> 01:07:33,467
Speaker 17: and also for what the international coaches want. And that's

1307
01:07:33,507 --> 01:07:34,907
Speaker 17: where a lot of pressure I think are where you

1308
01:07:35,027 --> 01:07:38,027
Speaker 17: fight on the Hellens because they tend to get a

1309
01:07:38,107 --> 01:07:40,307
Speaker 17: lot of pressure put on them, more than what people

1310
01:07:40,427 --> 01:07:43,947
Speaker 17: realize from the all black hierarchies, so they can have

1311
01:07:45,387 --> 01:07:50,147
Speaker 17: the players ready for all the all black jersey. I

1312
01:07:50,187 --> 01:07:52,827
Speaker 17: don't know there's a few players injured, because I really

1313
01:07:52,827 --> 01:07:54,547
Speaker 17: want them to play a lot a lot of new

1314
01:07:54,627 --> 01:07:56,787
Speaker 17: players when the French beating comes down.

1315
01:07:57,147 --> 01:07:57,467
Speaker 16: Why not?

1316
01:07:58,147 --> 01:08:00,067
Speaker 3: Yeah, well why not? Yeah? I don't think they will

1317
01:08:00,107 --> 01:08:01,907
Speaker 3: rich but I hear you, mate, and I've heard it

1318
01:08:01,987 --> 01:08:03,587
Speaker 3: suggested by a lot of people. If they're not going

1319
01:08:03,627 --> 01:08:05,107
Speaker 3: to send a decent team down. Why don't we just

1320
01:08:05,147 --> 01:08:07,667
Speaker 3: treat it as a bit of a development exercise as well.

1321
01:08:08,467 --> 01:08:10,147
Speaker 3: I don't think Scott Roberts is going to do that.

1322
01:08:10,347 --> 01:08:11,867
Speaker 3: I get the feeling at the back end of Super

1323
01:08:11,947 --> 01:08:15,307
Speaker 3: Rugby will pick the strongest possible all Black squad and

1324
01:08:15,467 --> 01:08:19,787
Speaker 3: they will do everything they can to win comfortably in

1325
01:08:19,827 --> 01:08:22,747
Speaker 3: all three Test matches against France. Thanks for your call, Richard.

1326
01:08:23,507 --> 01:08:26,187
Speaker 3: I hope that hope that your besting continues to go

1327
01:08:26,307 --> 01:08:28,707
Speaker 3: well for you. I think that is actually long for

1328
01:08:28,827 --> 01:08:33,667
Speaker 3: the very very long for the Reds. Yeah, the Crusaders

1329
01:08:33,707 --> 01:08:37,747
Speaker 3: I think can rightfully expect to be favorites at home.

1330
01:08:39,227 --> 01:08:41,347
Speaker 3: But let's not forget the last time out, which was

1331
01:08:41,627 --> 01:08:43,427
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. They were fresh off the buy.

1332
01:08:43,867 --> 01:08:46,387
Speaker 3: They were beaten forty nine to twenty four by the Chiefs,

1333
01:08:46,867 --> 01:08:50,787
Speaker 3: their biggest ever loss in terms of points margin to

1334
01:08:50,987 --> 01:08:54,667
Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Super Rugby history. In the first game

1335
01:08:54,787 --> 01:08:56,347
Speaker 3: they had a good one over the Hurricanes. They had

1336
01:08:56,387 --> 01:09:00,147
Speaker 3: the buye of course, as far as the Reds are concerned, well,

1337
01:09:00,147 --> 01:09:02,987
Speaker 3: the Reds had the buy to start. Then they came

1338
01:09:03,027 --> 01:09:05,707
Speaker 3: out and put fifty six on ma WAA Pacifica in

1339
01:09:05,787 --> 01:09:09,307
Speaker 3: a fifty thirty six win, and then last week they

1340
01:09:09,347 --> 01:09:12,227
Speaker 3: went all the way over to Western Australia and beat

1341
01:09:12,267 --> 01:09:14,267
Speaker 3: the Force twenty eight twenty four, and the Force had

1342
01:09:14,307 --> 01:09:16,827
Speaker 3: started really well. So I think the Reds will turn

1343
01:09:16,947 --> 01:09:21,827
Speaker 3: up in christ Church with a high degree of confidence.

1344
01:09:22,507 --> 01:09:25,107
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that their favorites by any stretching their imagination,

1345
01:09:25,147 --> 01:09:27,507
Speaker 3: of course they're not. But the Reds could win. And

1346
01:09:27,787 --> 01:09:30,867
Speaker 3: look after the weekend we've had, could you say that,

1347
01:09:31,147 --> 01:09:33,147
Speaker 3: you know, it's beyond the realms of possibility.

1348
01:09:33,547 --> 01:09:34,147
Speaker 2: Of course not.

1349
01:09:34,827 --> 01:09:37,627
Speaker 3: The Reds could easily come over to christ Church and win.

1350
01:09:37,947 --> 01:09:39,947
Speaker 3: In about an hour or so we'll get to christ Church. Actually,

1351
01:09:40,027 --> 01:09:42,707
Speaker 3: Nick Buy, the hardest working man in our organization, has

1352
01:09:42,747 --> 01:09:45,227
Speaker 3: come from the New Zealand Track and Field Champs back

1353
01:09:45,267 --> 01:09:47,507
Speaker 3: to christ Church to call a couple of games of rugby,

1354
01:09:47,547 --> 01:09:50,787
Speaker 3: including this one this afternoon. Mass Is. I'm putting the

1355
01:09:50,827 --> 01:09:54,427
Speaker 3: improvement of super rugby teams in Australia down to the

1356
01:09:54,547 --> 01:09:57,547
Speaker 3: Lions Tour this year. They all seem fitter, better skills,

1357
01:09:57,587 --> 01:10:01,907
Speaker 3: greater intensity, a once in a lifetime event, as a

1358
01:10:01,947 --> 01:10:03,667
Speaker 3: lot of great players never get the chance to play

1359
01:10:03,707 --> 01:10:05,227
Speaker 3: against the line. Yeah, it's got to be a carrot

1360
01:10:05,307 --> 01:10:07,667
Speaker 3: for the must, doesn't it. It has to be a

1361
01:10:07,747 --> 01:10:11,227
Speaker 3: carrot for them to, you know, to have the possibility

1362
01:10:11,267 --> 01:10:14,587
Speaker 3: of being selected in Joe Schmidt's squad to take on

1363
01:10:14,667 --> 01:10:16,907
Speaker 3: the British and Irish lines mid year. Why wouldn't you

1364
01:10:16,947 --> 01:10:19,467
Speaker 3: want to put your best foot forward? Bang On Owen says,

1365
01:10:20,067 --> 01:10:23,467
Speaker 3: gives me goosebumps thinking about super Round and Fiji be amazing.

1366
01:10:24,787 --> 01:10:26,987
Speaker 3: The Drewer have never lost a game in Loutoka, so

1367
01:10:27,387 --> 01:10:29,227
Speaker 3: we do need to take them seriously. It's not an

1368
01:10:29,347 --> 01:10:32,827
Speaker 3: upset that they beat the Chiefs, and Dennis says great.

1369
01:10:33,067 --> 01:10:37,147
Speaker 3: Best referee performance the weekend was Angus Gardner referering France

1370
01:10:37,147 --> 01:10:41,907
Speaker 3: against Ireland. Great game as well, Scott. He says, of

1371
01:10:41,947 --> 01:10:44,227
Speaker 3: the French or any team sends a B team to

1372
01:10:44,267 --> 01:10:47,627
Speaker 3: New Zealand, we should always feel the strongest team and

1373
01:10:47,787 --> 01:10:50,987
Speaker 3: send them home embarrassed so they never ever do it again.

1374
01:10:51,627 --> 01:10:53,867
Speaker 3: Bang On, Well, we can't control who France are going

1375
01:10:53,907 --> 01:10:55,747
Speaker 3: to send down, right, They'll send down who they want

1376
01:10:55,747 --> 01:10:57,427
Speaker 3: to send down, and I see we're not. I mean

1377
01:10:57,467 --> 01:11:01,667
Speaker 3: there was talk that they might change their stance and

1378
01:11:01,827 --> 01:11:06,507
Speaker 3: we might see perhaps that you know, Antoine to pont Light,

1379
01:11:07,187 --> 01:11:11,027
Speaker 3: you know deem it something that he would do. But

1380
01:11:11,307 --> 01:11:13,067
Speaker 3: I see he was helped off in this morning sixth

1381
01:11:13,147 --> 01:11:16,627
Speaker 3: Nations game, fell on his leg, causing it to buck

1382
01:11:16,667 --> 01:11:19,507
Speaker 3: all Planet Rugby as saying that they think he suffered

1383
01:11:19,507 --> 01:11:23,507
Speaker 3: an ACL rupture. Goodness me, he was highly unlikely to

1384
01:11:23,587 --> 01:11:27,707
Speaker 3: come anyway, but you'd have to imagine that at the

1385
01:11:27,907 --> 01:11:31,307
Speaker 3: very least he'll need six months recovery time. So now

1386
01:11:31,347 --> 01:11:33,467
Speaker 3: I think you can take him out of any possible

1387
01:11:34,347 --> 01:11:36,587
Speaker 3: equation to come down here with France in the middle

1388
01:11:36,587 --> 01:11:39,827
Speaker 3: of the year. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine,

1389
01:11:39,867 --> 01:11:42,027
Speaker 3: two ninety two is our text line twenty one away

1390
01:11:42,107 --> 01:11:44,707
Speaker 3: from two. Quick update on the cricket Georgia plumbers into

1391
01:11:44,707 --> 01:11:49,387
Speaker 3: the nineties unbeaten on ninety one New Zealander one hundred

1392
01:11:49,427 --> 01:11:52,427
Speaker 3: and ninety seven for three. And just as I say

1393
01:11:52,467 --> 01:11:54,587
Speaker 3: that she's gone down the ground as that six, it

1394
01:11:54,747 --> 01:11:58,907
Speaker 3: is ninety seven not out Georgia Plumber approaching her first

1395
01:11:58,987 --> 01:12:02,947
Speaker 3: ever One Day International century the Wellington opener who's had

1396
01:12:02,987 --> 01:12:07,587
Speaker 3: a long period on the sidelines with injury, and she's

1397
01:12:07,707 --> 01:12:10,427
Speaker 3: just bashed one down the ground for six. Great stuff.

1398
01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:13,707
Speaker 3: I'll update the score for you when they put it

1399
01:12:13,827 --> 01:12:16,147
Speaker 3: back up on the screen, which they haven't at the moment.

1400
01:12:16,187 --> 01:12:17,867
Speaker 3: Let's get a breakaway at twenty to two when we

1401
01:12:17,947 --> 01:12:20,707
Speaker 3: come back. James mccaroney part of our Sundays here on

1402
01:12:20,787 --> 01:12:21,787
Speaker 3: Weekend Sports.

1403
01:12:22,747 --> 01:12:26,147
Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call Oh eight

1404
01:12:26,267 --> 01:12:29,227
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1405
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1406
01:12:30,187 --> 01:12:33,267
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1407
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1408
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1409
01:12:40,747 --> 01:12:44,387
Speaker 3: Alternative Commentary Collective, Crowd goes Wild all across your socials.

1410
01:12:44,507 --> 01:12:45,187
Speaker 3: How are you mate?

1411
01:12:46,107 --> 01:12:46,227
Speaker 17: Oh?

1412
01:12:46,307 --> 01:12:48,707
Speaker 6: Great, thanks Piney and great to see that you've been

1413
01:12:48,787 --> 01:12:52,027
Speaker 6: listening to the Alternative Commentary Collective because you've got Patrick

1414
01:12:52,107 --> 01:12:55,667
Speaker 6: Kurlagreenie on your show and we were singing as praise

1415
01:12:55,667 --> 01:12:59,787
Speaker 6: as last night, literally singing songs included the song song

1416
01:13:00,027 --> 01:13:03,427
Speaker 6: and Perfect Gentlemen by Wycliff John. I don't know if

1417
01:13:03,467 --> 01:13:06,587
Speaker 6: you know it, but anyway, yeah, he was out player

1418
01:13:06,627 --> 01:13:07,547
Speaker 6: of the day of the match.

1419
01:13:08,147 --> 01:13:10,547
Speaker 3: He was excellent. He was excellent and I must say,

1420
01:13:10,627 --> 01:13:13,627
Speaker 3: in one of your other capacities on the Crowd Goes Wild,

1421
01:13:13,747 --> 01:13:16,787
Speaker 3: I loved your chat with Kiren to Moi Filal. This

1422
01:13:16,947 --> 01:13:17,787
Speaker 3: kid can play too.

1423
01:13:18,867 --> 01:13:21,947
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's got one more year until he qualifies

1424
01:13:21,987 --> 01:13:24,467
Speaker 6: for the All Blacks. I'm sure he's on Razors radar.

1425
01:13:24,827 --> 01:13:28,467
Speaker 6: He's just so talented. He saw it a couple of

1426
01:13:28,547 --> 01:13:30,547
Speaker 6: times last night. He did bomb a try in the

1427
01:13:30,667 --> 01:13:33,947
Speaker 6: first half though, so obviously there's little canks to iron out.

1428
01:13:34,027 --> 01:13:37,907
Speaker 6: But yeah, he's just rapid and the appeals because he's

1429
01:13:38,027 --> 01:13:41,227
Speaker 6: just got that elite speed, which you know, if you've

1430
01:13:41,227 --> 01:13:45,467
Speaker 6: been watching Six Nations be Albury, the French wing, just

1431
01:13:45,547 --> 01:13:48,587
Speaker 6: having the fastest man on the field often helps out.

1432
01:13:50,227 --> 01:13:52,507
Speaker 3: I just look at Mina Pacifica. Now they've got the buy.

1433
01:13:52,827 --> 01:13:56,827
Speaker 3: And then their next two matches are against the Chiefs

1434
01:13:56,947 --> 01:13:59,427
Speaker 3: at home on the twenty first of March. In fact,

1435
01:13:59,467 --> 01:14:01,787
Speaker 3: that's meant to be Oh no, that's been moved, hasn't

1436
01:14:01,827 --> 01:14:03,907
Speaker 3: it from nukwalaw for They won't play it up there, now,

1437
01:14:03,987 --> 01:14:06,827
Speaker 3: will they. And then it's the Crusaders down in christ

1438
01:14:06,907 --> 01:14:09,747
Speaker 3: Church last night. You know when they beat the Hurricanes,

1439
01:14:09,787 --> 01:14:11,947
Speaker 3: did it feel to you like a pivotal moment? Do

1440
01:14:11,987 --> 01:14:15,827
Speaker 3: you think it's something they can launch from it?

1441
01:14:15,947 --> 01:14:16,067
Speaker 10: Did?

1442
01:14:16,187 --> 01:14:19,147
Speaker 6: Actually it felt like a massive turning point. I think

1443
01:14:19,707 --> 01:14:22,507
Speaker 6: Callegreen he made a big difference. At ten, they sorted

1444
01:14:22,547 --> 01:14:24,827
Speaker 6: out their line out, they had their two big parlang

1445
01:14:24,867 --> 01:14:29,187
Speaker 6: Ey locks in there, one of whom Tom Savage got

1446
01:14:30,227 --> 01:14:33,387
Speaker 6: yellow carded. So you know, it wasn't smooth sailing, but

1447
01:14:33,547 --> 01:14:37,147
Speaker 6: the dominance of that second half performance, especially against a

1448
01:14:37,307 --> 01:14:41,627
Speaker 6: stacked Hurricanes bench. We're talking cam Roy Guard all black

1449
01:14:41,747 --> 01:14:45,787
Speaker 6: number one half back, now dupless kid Efi all coming

1450
01:14:45,867 --> 01:14:49,827
Speaker 6: off the bench and trying to make a big impact

1451
01:14:49,867 --> 01:14:53,107
Speaker 6: for the Canes, which I think they did, especially said Efi,

1452
01:14:53,227 --> 01:14:57,067
Speaker 6: but seeing the way that the one of pacifica a

1453
01:14:57,147 --> 01:15:02,307
Speaker 6: dominated territory position, are really creative, they sort of won

1454
01:15:02,387 --> 01:15:05,707
Speaker 6: that upfront battle as well. And to be honest, a

1455
01:15:05,787 --> 01:15:08,987
Speaker 6: player like Miracle file on you is a bona fide

1456
01:15:09,067 --> 01:15:14,627
Speaker 6: superstar blindside flank for Mowana and for Manu Sama, and

1457
01:15:14,987 --> 01:15:17,787
Speaker 6: it's it's actually great to see a player who's you know,

1458
01:15:18,027 --> 01:15:20,827
Speaker 6: come from the Island's place for the Islands and there's

1459
01:15:20,907 --> 01:15:24,507
Speaker 6: going to be I reckon you know, world Fistan material.

1460
01:15:25,107 --> 01:15:27,747
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh look, it's it's awesome to watch them play.

1461
01:15:27,787 --> 01:15:29,867
Speaker 3: And I look, I hope that they that they do

1462
01:15:30,027 --> 01:15:32,707
Speaker 3: launch from this. Hey, if the Reds beat the Crusaders

1463
01:15:32,747 --> 01:15:36,667
Speaker 3: this afternoon. There'll be three wins from three, the war

1464
01:15:36,747 --> 01:15:40,147
Speaker 3: Atars three wins from three. So after a month of

1465
01:15:40,267 --> 01:15:42,867
Speaker 3: Super Rugby, we could have the Wartars and the Reds

1466
01:15:42,867 --> 01:15:45,547
Speaker 3: as the two teams with a one hundred percent record.

1467
01:15:45,587 --> 01:15:46,667
Speaker 3: Did anybody pick that?

1468
01:15:48,787 --> 01:15:48,827
Speaker 10: Not?

1469
01:15:48,987 --> 01:15:54,387
Speaker 6: This correspondent Pony. I didn't think the Tars were going

1470
01:15:54,427 --> 01:15:56,547
Speaker 6: to be good though. I just thought they seem to

1471
01:15:56,667 --> 01:15:59,067
Speaker 6: get the best cast offs from the Rebels and they

1472
01:15:59,107 --> 01:16:02,547
Speaker 6: picked up Joseph Sueliki and tane Ed Med was really

1473
01:16:02,587 --> 01:16:05,627
Speaker 6: good for North Harbor at first five in the NBC.

1474
01:16:05,827 --> 01:16:09,467
Speaker 6: So really I saw the improvement coming from the Tars

1475
01:16:09,547 --> 01:16:13,027
Speaker 6: and that's it's great that they're doing that because even

1476
01:16:13,067 --> 01:16:16,187
Speaker 6: the crowd seem pretty pumped over there in Sydney, and

1477
01:16:16,267 --> 01:16:19,907
Speaker 6: it's important given it's a traditional powerhouse of the game

1478
01:16:20,387 --> 01:16:24,107
Speaker 6: and how dominant league is in that city. But then look,

1479
01:16:24,307 --> 01:16:28,547
Speaker 6: I think the competition is incredible. Just so many games

1480
01:16:28,667 --> 01:16:32,067
Speaker 6: decided by you know, one score games they call them,

1481
01:16:32,147 --> 01:16:36,907
Speaker 6: so just you know, seven points are under those fans

1482
01:16:36,987 --> 01:16:39,467
Speaker 6: want to see. The biggest concern for me in this

1483
01:16:39,667 --> 01:16:43,867
Speaker 6: latest round is that Friday night with the Blues against

1484
01:16:43,907 --> 01:16:47,387
Speaker 6: the Bumbees, small crowd just didn't feel like there was

1485
01:16:47,547 --> 01:16:51,027
Speaker 6: much energy. You can't exactly call yourself have a home

1486
01:16:51,107 --> 01:16:54,987
Speaker 6: crowd advantage if you haven't got any people there or energy.

1487
01:16:55,987 --> 01:16:57,707
Speaker 3: That's a good point. It's a really good point.

1488
01:16:57,787 --> 01:16:57,987
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1489
01:16:58,067 --> 01:17:00,467
Speaker 3: They It's a big arena to fill, isn't it?

1490
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Speaker 11: Though?

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01:17:00,707 --> 01:17:02,707
Speaker 3: You know, even if you get twenty thousand in there,

1492
01:17:03,107 --> 01:17:05,147
Speaker 3: it's still not half full, is it. Look I'm not

1493
01:17:05,227 --> 01:17:07,947
Speaker 3: suggesting they move somewhere else, but we all know what

1494
01:17:08,987 --> 01:17:13,147
Speaker 3: a good sized medium like. I'm going to call Mount

1495
01:17:13,187 --> 01:17:15,267
Speaker 3: Smart a boutique stadium. You look at Mount Smart when

1496
01:17:15,267 --> 01:17:17,307
Speaker 3: the Warriors are there or when Auckland FC are there,

1497
01:17:17,947 --> 01:17:20,587
Speaker 3: you know it's probably twenty thousand and there, the place

1498
01:17:20,707 --> 01:17:21,107
Speaker 3: just rocking.

1499
01:17:22,147 --> 01:17:24,787
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing that I know that Andrew Wore,

1500
01:17:24,827 --> 01:17:27,627
Speaker 6: the CEO of the of the Blues, is looking down

1501
01:17:27,667 --> 01:17:30,147
Speaker 6: the road and seeing what's happened at Mount Smart and

1502
01:17:30,307 --> 01:17:34,227
Speaker 6: the groundswell. It's just basically become, you know, such a

1503
01:17:34,387 --> 01:17:39,067
Speaker 6: massive social phenomenon really of watching people go up the

1504
01:17:39,147 --> 01:17:42,107
Speaker 6: wars and the Blues don't have that they've won a title,

1505
01:17:42,147 --> 01:17:42,907
Speaker 6: what else can they do?

1506
01:17:43,587 --> 01:17:44,027
Speaker 14: This is the thing.

1507
01:17:44,107 --> 01:17:46,747
Speaker 6: They've got superstars playing out there that you know, Boden

1508
01:17:46,787 --> 01:17:50,227
Speaker 6: Barrett's out on the field with Caleb Clark and Mark Talia.

1509
01:17:50,307 --> 01:17:53,427
Speaker 6: You can't say they're not exciting an exciting team to watch.

1510
01:17:53,947 --> 01:17:55,987
Speaker 6: But the one thing that did let them now know

1511
01:17:56,267 --> 01:17:58,307
Speaker 6: was not taking the kick it goal. And I think

1512
01:17:58,347 --> 01:18:01,067
Speaker 6: it's about time that maybe the kickers just like the

1513
01:18:01,107 --> 01:18:03,707
Speaker 6: old days when you play club rugby, quite often the

1514
01:18:03,747 --> 01:18:06,267
Speaker 6: kicker would tell the captain what we're going to happen next.

1515
01:18:06,987 --> 01:18:09,387
Speaker 6: You didn't live it up to the forward. He's put

1516
01:18:09,467 --> 01:18:12,587
Speaker 6: his head in fifty rucks. You just said a week year,

1517
01:18:12,587 --> 01:18:14,347
Speaker 6: we're actually kicking for goali mate, you know.

1518
01:18:14,587 --> 01:18:18,187
Speaker 3: And that was what decisions made. Yeah, Hay six Nations

1519
01:18:18,227 --> 01:18:21,627
Speaker 3: this morning, and halftime between Ireland and France it was

1520
01:18:21,787 --> 01:18:24,867
Speaker 3: eight six to France over Ireland. So we're talking about

1521
01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:27,907
Speaker 3: a goalkickers game there. At full time it's forty to

1522
01:18:28,627 --> 01:18:31,147
Speaker 3: twenty seven. Defense optional in the second half.

1523
01:18:32,147 --> 01:18:35,907
Speaker 6: Well, there's several things that play here. One is the

1524
01:18:36,027 --> 01:18:39,787
Speaker 6: French just getting a smiff of blood really over in

1525
01:18:39,867 --> 01:18:45,187
Speaker 6: Dublin and just starting to cut loose. And the new

1526
01:18:45,307 --> 01:18:47,867
Speaker 6: rules don't favor some of those big let's call them

1527
01:18:47,907 --> 01:18:52,787
Speaker 6: plotting teams, and so the game speeds up. Ireland can't

1528
01:18:52,827 --> 01:18:55,467
Speaker 6: slow it down the way they like and can't control it,

1529
01:18:55,627 --> 01:18:58,027
Speaker 6: and the frenchire game this is perfect for us. So

1530
01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:01,027
Speaker 6: that was one fact that I think when I look

1531
01:19:01,067 --> 01:19:03,747
Speaker 6: at that Ireland team, man, it was strong. There weren't

1532
01:19:03,787 --> 01:19:07,587
Speaker 6: too many key players missing. However, was James Low missing

1533
01:19:08,307 --> 01:19:11,267
Speaker 6: the Tasman wing. So you lose the kiwi with only

1534
01:19:11,347 --> 01:19:14,507
Speaker 6: two kiwis out there, it can be catastrophic. All hell

1535
01:19:14,587 --> 01:19:17,227
Speaker 6: breaks loose pony. It's like a clover. If you've got

1536
01:19:17,347 --> 01:19:20,787
Speaker 6: four leaves, it's good luck three leaves, just any normal clover.

1537
01:19:21,547 --> 01:19:24,187
Speaker 3: And did anybody ever look for a two leaf clover?

1538
01:19:24,547 --> 01:19:26,827
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so.

1539
01:19:27,627 --> 01:19:28,627
Speaker 8: Clover come on now.

1540
01:19:29,227 --> 01:19:31,747
Speaker 6: So I mean that was a big factor for me.

1541
01:19:31,907 --> 01:19:35,187
Speaker 6: But even losing DuPont early and I just want to

1542
01:19:35,307 --> 01:19:37,347
Speaker 6: come back to that if I may. But even losing

1543
01:19:37,427 --> 01:19:39,827
Speaker 6: DuPont earlier, it just showed the depth that France had.

1544
01:19:39,907 --> 01:19:43,227
Speaker 6: That people who follow that that team will notice that

1545
01:19:43,387 --> 01:19:45,947
Speaker 6: even the bench there were new players. So the depth

1546
01:19:46,027 --> 01:19:48,867
Speaker 6: there is crazy. But just Onto Pont, who got taken

1547
01:19:48,907 --> 01:19:52,707
Speaker 6: out in the ruck and has a potential acl knee injury,

1548
01:19:53,947 --> 01:19:56,547
Speaker 6: I think the cleanout is still a debacle and they

1549
01:19:56,667 --> 01:19:59,027
Speaker 6: might I think rugby the next move, the next big

1550
01:19:59,147 --> 01:20:01,667
Speaker 6: move will be sorting out to clean out, and we

1551
01:20:01,787 --> 01:20:04,147
Speaker 6: could end up going to a place where you can't

1552
01:20:04,227 --> 01:20:06,587
Speaker 6: leave with his shoulder on someone who's just standing their

1553
01:20:06,627 --> 01:20:11,787
Speaker 6: praying and trapped in a rut, because that's how people,

1554
01:20:13,347 --> 01:20:15,747
Speaker 6: you know, basically get injured out of World Cups, like

1555
01:20:15,827 --> 01:20:18,387
Speaker 6: Quinty Pyre and other things. And now you see DuPont,

1556
01:20:18,507 --> 01:20:21,707
Speaker 6: I think maybe it's going to be more like American

1557
01:20:21,747 --> 01:20:24,187
Speaker 6: football where you have to push, you know, use your hands,

1558
01:20:24,307 --> 01:20:27,107
Speaker 6: maybe your arms as well, but definitely not leading them

1559
01:20:27,107 --> 01:20:27,667
Speaker 6: with the shoulder.

1560
01:20:27,947 --> 01:20:28,107
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1561
01:20:28,147 --> 01:20:30,707
Speaker 3: I totally agree. I totally totally agree. How do you

1562
01:20:30,787 --> 01:20:33,427
Speaker 3: reckon the black Caps can do it tonight? I've got

1563
01:20:33,467 --> 01:20:36,467
Speaker 3: Gary Stead on the radio after two you reckon they

1564
01:20:36,507 --> 01:20:36,867
Speaker 3: can do it?

1565
01:20:38,027 --> 01:20:38,227
Speaker 8: Well?

1566
01:20:38,947 --> 01:20:41,307
Speaker 6: How much do you pay for a commentator's curse pony?

1567
01:20:41,387 --> 01:20:46,547
Speaker 6: Because I think we can totally do it. I love

1568
01:20:46,587 --> 01:20:48,867
Speaker 6: the look of the black Caps. I have said that

1569
01:20:48,987 --> 01:20:51,867
Speaker 6: we shouldn't be playing ratchan Avenger as an opener, we

1570
01:20:51,907 --> 01:20:54,107
Speaker 6: should protect them from the new ball, and of course

1571
01:20:54,227 --> 01:20:57,347
Speaker 6: that opinion was uta bollocks because he scored a ton

1572
01:20:57,467 --> 01:21:02,187
Speaker 6: in the semi final and looked fantastic and maybe that's

1573
01:21:02,267 --> 01:21:04,507
Speaker 6: the genius of it. That's the roll of the dice.

1574
01:21:04,627 --> 01:21:07,387
Speaker 6: We can only really score over three point fifty if

1575
01:21:07,427 --> 01:21:10,507
Speaker 6: you do have someone like Ratchan who is a budding

1576
01:21:10,587 --> 01:21:14,987
Speaker 6: superstar opening the batting. I would still protect them, I

1577
01:21:15,027 --> 01:21:18,307
Speaker 6: would still beat them at four. But then I'm not

1578
01:21:19,107 --> 01:21:22,227
Speaker 6: the coach that's made taking the team to several finals

1579
01:21:22,427 --> 01:21:25,427
Speaker 6: and one at least one of them and drew another.

1580
01:21:26,867 --> 01:21:31,027
Speaker 6: Don't forget that Piney this time though, I think we've

1581
01:21:31,067 --> 01:21:36,907
Speaker 6: got a really strong attack, that bowling attack, with our

1582
01:21:36,987 --> 01:21:40,947
Speaker 6: spinners working really nicely. The other day, Santa just looks

1583
01:21:40,987 --> 01:21:43,787
Speaker 6: to be in great form taking He's taken that captain

1584
01:21:43,827 --> 01:21:47,347
Speaker 6: see like a duck to water. And then even bracewoman

1585
01:21:47,427 --> 01:21:52,947
Speaker 6: Ratchen Revender himself looking really handy tying down in South African.

1586
01:21:53,027 --> 01:21:54,227
Speaker 6: So hopefully that can happen again.

1587
01:21:54,787 --> 01:21:57,387
Speaker 3: I hope. So great to chat as always James Good

1588
01:21:57,427 --> 01:21:59,707
Speaker 3: and O. We're on the same wave length around our

1589
01:21:59,787 --> 01:22:03,147
Speaker 3: friend mister Palla GREENI let's chat again next Sunday, shall we?

1590
01:22:03,787 --> 01:22:04,667
Speaker 11: Let's do that, And I do.

1591
01:22:04,747 --> 01:22:07,027
Speaker 6: Agree with you about the super round ship be in Fiji.

1592
01:22:07,267 --> 01:22:09,987
Speaker 6: Let's make it happen speak less existence.

1593
01:22:10,507 --> 01:22:14,307
Speaker 3: Yeah here, let's just imagine it into fact. I'm not

1594
01:22:14,387 --> 01:22:16,947
Speaker 3: sure whether that's actually a thing. Good to talk to you, James,

1595
01:22:16,987 --> 01:22:19,107
Speaker 3: as always, mate, James mcconey big part of our Sundays

1596
01:22:19,227 --> 01:22:20,427
Speaker 3: seven to two news talks.

1597
01:22:21,387 --> 01:22:26,347
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails. Weekend

1598
01:22:26,427 --> 01:22:29,627
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pine News Talk ZENB.

1599
01:22:30,027 --> 01:22:31,947
Speaker 3: Four to two. Georgia Plummer has been dismissed for one

1600
01:22:32,067 --> 01:22:35,027
Speaker 3: hundred and twelve her first ever One Day International century

1601
01:22:35,627 --> 01:22:38,427
Speaker 3: New Zealander two hundred and thirty three for four and

1602
01:22:38,507 --> 01:22:40,227
Speaker 3: the forty fifth over. This is the third and final

1603
01:22:40,307 --> 01:22:43,107
Speaker 3: One Day International between the White Ferns and Sri Lanka

1604
01:22:43,267 --> 01:22:46,907
Speaker 3: in Nelson. Speaking of cricket, Gary Stead leads us off

1605
01:22:47,027 --> 01:22:48,987
Speaker 3: after two o'clock coach of the black Caps ahead of

1606
01:22:49,027 --> 01:22:53,867
Speaker 3: the Champions Trophy final against India tonight starting at ten

1607
01:22:53,867 --> 01:22:56,747
Speaker 3: o'clock New Zealand time in Dubai. How are they feeling?

1608
01:22:56,827 --> 01:23:00,107
Speaker 3: And Tom Bruce score of three hundred and forty five.

1609
01:23:00,467 --> 01:23:01,267
Speaker 3: During the week.

1610
01:23:02,867 --> 01:23:07,267
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest fours issues on afterfield,

1611
01:23:07,827 --> 01:23:11,467
Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Dayne on your

1612
01:23:11,587 --> 01:23:14,427
Speaker 1: home of Sport, U York.

1613
01:23:15,747 --> 01:23:15,867
Speaker 12: Hi.

1614
01:23:15,987 --> 01:23:18,387
Speaker 3: There seven past two. This is weekend sport for another

1615
01:23:18,467 --> 01:23:20,187
Speaker 3: hour or so and then Tim Beverage in the chair

1616
01:23:20,227 --> 01:23:27,587
Speaker 3: for the weekend collective Cricket. I'm just stealing myself for

1617
01:23:27,747 --> 01:23:31,187
Speaker 3: a through the night's viewing experienced tonight ten o'clock start

1618
01:23:31,707 --> 01:23:35,907
Speaker 3: Champions Trophy Final Black Camps by India. Du Buy coach

1619
01:23:35,987 --> 01:23:39,187
Speaker 3: Gary Stead is with us very shortly. Speaking of cricket,

1620
01:23:40,227 --> 01:23:42,867
Speaker 3: Tom Bruce did something pretty special during the week. He

1621
01:23:42,947 --> 01:23:48,147
Speaker 3: scored three hundred and forty five, the third highest score

1622
01:23:48,507 --> 01:23:52,387
Speaker 3: in New Zealand first class history three hundred and forty

1623
01:23:52,507 --> 01:23:56,627
Speaker 3: five for CD against Auckland and they got sent in

1624
01:23:56,747 --> 01:24:00,707
Speaker 3: as well. Tom Bruce with us this hour. Nick Biorli

1625
01:24:00,707 --> 01:24:04,427
Speaker 3: out of christ Church. He's been busy Dunedin for the

1626
01:24:04,667 --> 01:24:07,347
Speaker 3: National Track and Field Champs yesterday. Back in christ Juge

1627
01:24:07,427 --> 01:24:11,027
Speaker 3: to commentate a couple of rugby games. Hee is just

1628
01:24:11,147 --> 01:24:14,707
Speaker 3: finishing off the Super Rugby Opicky game, which I can

1629
01:24:14,827 --> 01:24:19,107
Speaker 3: update you on if you give me a second. Last

1630
01:24:19,147 --> 01:24:21,947
Speaker 3: time we checked Marta two were comfortably ahead twenty nine

1631
01:24:21,947 --> 01:24:24,387
Speaker 3: to seven. They lead the Hurricanes poer with ten minutes

1632
01:24:24,427 --> 01:24:26,347
Speaker 3: to go there. Then Nike'll have a quick break and

1633
01:24:26,387 --> 01:24:29,667
Speaker 3: at about half past three he'll call the Crusaders against

1634
01:24:29,707 --> 01:24:31,387
Speaker 3: the Reds. In between times they'll have a chat to

1635
01:24:31,507 --> 01:24:33,907
Speaker 3: us a bit about the track and Field Champs, but

1636
01:24:34,027 --> 01:24:38,227
Speaker 3: also previewing the Crusaders game. Lots of other Bitston pieces

1637
01:24:38,427 --> 01:24:41,347
Speaker 3: and our lines of communication, as always are open. Oh

1638
01:24:41,427 --> 01:24:44,187
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty ninety two nine two

1639
01:24:44,267 --> 01:24:47,027
Speaker 3: is our text line or an email to Jason ATNEWSTALKSDB

1640
01:24:47,147 --> 01:24:49,587
Speaker 3: dot co dot NZ eight pass two. Though, as we

1641
01:24:49,707 --> 01:24:52,707
Speaker 3: always do at around about this time on weekend Sport,

1642
01:24:53,107 --> 01:24:56,787
Speaker 3: we bring you up to date. We put the spotlight

1643
01:24:56,867 --> 01:24:58,547
Speaker 3: on a couple of things which have happened in the

1644
01:24:58,667 --> 01:25:01,427
Speaker 3: last few hours or so that you might have missed.

1645
01:25:01,787 --> 01:25:03,947
Speaker 3: In case you missed it, we start in the Premier

1646
01:25:04,027 --> 01:25:08,627
Speaker 3: League Chris Wood and not Nottingham Forest with a significant

1647
01:25:08,707 --> 01:25:10,587
Speaker 3: win over Manchester City.

1648
01:25:11,227 --> 01:25:14,747
Speaker 2: For jicks like to hutch to Joy try to open City.

1649
01:25:14,547 --> 01:25:18,427
Speaker 3: Out Jicksono scores.

1650
01:25:20,107 --> 01:25:24,347
Speaker 23: The Forests the City crown Eruptor's run.

1651
01:25:24,747 --> 01:25:27,787
Speaker 3: An eighty third minute winner from Mcallum Hudson a toy

1652
01:25:27,947 --> 01:25:31,507
Speaker 3: keeping Nottingham Forest in third place, four points clear of

1653
01:25:31,707 --> 01:25:35,387
Speaker 3: Manchester City with ten games to go. Would himself not

1654
01:25:35,547 --> 01:25:38,267
Speaker 3: troubling the scorers. I'm sure he won't mind one. They'll

1655
01:25:38,307 --> 01:25:40,907
Speaker 3: over City well in some Phoenix fans, though I'm sure

1656
01:25:41,027 --> 01:25:45,587
Speaker 3: will mind the amount that Western United troubled the scorers

1657
01:25:45,707 --> 01:25:48,947
Speaker 3: last night. Can't hold on my attention, Danzacky link up

1658
01:25:48,987 --> 01:25:50,547
Speaker 3: and down Grimaldi, look at your choo.

1659
01:25:51,307 --> 01:25:55,667
Speaker 23: He will get to Matthew Grimaldi win a beautiful first

1660
01:25:55,787 --> 01:26:00,667
Speaker 23: chants track DANSACKI involved in the build up again, but

1661
01:26:00,867 --> 01:26:02,187
Speaker 23: Gramaldi gets a double.

1662
01:26:02,867 --> 01:26:06,827
Speaker 3: Western United had four for one the final score a

1663
01:26:06,947 --> 01:26:10,667
Speaker 3: fourth straight loss for the Wellington Phoenix men's side to

1664
01:26:10,747 --> 01:26:14,267
Speaker 3: the NRL. The Bulldogs too strong for the Dragons twenty

1665
01:26:14,307 --> 01:26:17,267
Speaker 3: two six The dogs, Oh, I started again.

1666
01:26:17,547 --> 01:26:21,867
Speaker 19: It's a figure beauty so Tilly tipa oh.

1667
01:26:21,827 --> 01:26:25,667
Speaker 16: He's going to be a cold figure at belmore, judging.

1668
01:26:25,387 --> 01:26:28,507
Speaker 3: By the way he has started his doggie's career. Twenty

1669
01:26:28,547 --> 01:26:30,787
Speaker 3: eight twenty to the Bulldogs there and the Manly Sea

1670
01:26:30,867 --> 01:26:34,507
Speaker 3: Eagles relentless and they're hammering of the Cowboys and now

1671
01:26:34,827 --> 01:26:35,707
Speaker 3: down the short.

1672
01:26:35,547 --> 01:26:41,587
Speaker 19: Side again Pigo sub mainly mainly Sun.

1673
01:26:43,067 --> 01:26:50,907
Speaker 3: They're unstoppable. It's it's another lens of points of brook

1674
01:26:50,987 --> 01:26:53,987
Speaker 3: five a forty two twelve when for the Manly Sea

1675
01:26:54,027 --> 01:26:57,067
Speaker 3: Eagles to start there NRL season and to rugby union

1676
01:26:57,107 --> 01:27:00,307
Speaker 3: the war Tars moving into second as in Super Rugby

1677
01:27:00,547 --> 01:27:04,187
Speaker 3: are convincing win over the Western Force Bran Why is

1678
01:27:04,227 --> 01:27:07,507
Speaker 3: it white out? They've got a slight hard here hellaway

1679
01:27:07,587 --> 01:27:12,707
Speaker 3: in the park, there's the icing. Then Ner sup Wells

1680
01:27:13,347 --> 01:27:16,587
Speaker 3: thirty fourteen to the wars House there in France, despite

1681
01:27:16,667 --> 01:27:20,947
Speaker 3: losing their talisman, Antoine du Pont running riot over Ireland

1682
01:27:20,987 --> 01:27:23,387
Speaker 3: to reignite their six Nations opes, and then.

1683
01:27:23,387 --> 01:27:29,187
Speaker 23: Pictor Ernie row Is a land gun, the Nippy's Eyes shower.

1684
01:27:29,827 --> 01:27:35,307
Speaker 23: Dunnim Kenno at the river breaking monumental moments.

1685
01:27:38,267 --> 01:27:42,067
Speaker 4: Is all tiny equals Systo Dunim.

1686
01:27:41,787 --> 01:27:46,707
Speaker 1: Kenno analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

1687
01:27:46,907 --> 01:27:49,787
Speaker 1: Weekends for It with Jason Vye nicoll.

1688
01:27:51,227 --> 01:27:55,707
Speaker 3: Us Talk ZB eleven minutes past two tonight in Dubai

1689
01:27:55,827 --> 01:27:58,707
Speaker 3: from ten o'clock New Zealand time, the black Caps take

1690
01:27:58,787 --> 01:28:03,587
Speaker 3: on India in the ICC Champions Trophy Final. Black Caps

1691
01:28:03,667 --> 01:28:06,067
Speaker 3: coach Gary Stead is with us out of Dubai. Gary,

1692
01:28:06,107 --> 01:28:08,467
Speaker 3: thanks for taking the time for a chat. Let's start

1693
01:28:08,507 --> 01:28:11,627
Speaker 3: with personnel. What's the latest you can tell us about

1694
01:28:11,707 --> 01:28:14,827
Speaker 3: the likely involvement or not of Matt Henry.

1695
01:28:15,667 --> 01:28:18,147
Speaker 24: Yeah, look, I mean Matt obviously landed on the shoulder

1696
01:28:18,787 --> 01:28:20,907
Speaker 24: and was in a little bit of pain. So we're

1697
01:28:20,947 --> 01:28:24,027
Speaker 24: going to give him every opportunity. He'll have a fitness

1698
01:28:24,067 --> 01:28:27,787
Speaker 24: test tonight just to see how he's tracking and we'll

1699
01:28:27,827 --> 01:28:30,547
Speaker 24: make a call after that whether he plays tomorrow or not.

1700
01:28:30,747 --> 01:28:33,787
Speaker 14: So until we have that he.

1701
01:28:34,107 --> 01:28:36,547
Speaker 24: Has that bowl this evening, there's just a little bit

1702
01:28:36,587 --> 01:28:38,987
Speaker 24: of unknown around his readiness or not.

1703
01:28:39,587 --> 01:28:42,347
Speaker 3: Is it his bowling shoulder that is the problem.

1704
01:28:43,027 --> 01:28:46,907
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's his right right shoulder, so yeah, it's obviously

1705
01:28:46,947 --> 01:28:51,427
Speaker 24: important to him. So yeah, it's it's not ideal, but

1706
01:28:52,227 --> 01:28:55,027
Speaker 24: unfortunately those things come with playing sport at times.

1707
01:28:55,387 --> 01:28:57,987
Speaker 3: So if he is ruled out of the final, is

1708
01:28:58,067 --> 01:29:00,787
Speaker 3: it most likely Gary you'll go like the like and

1709
01:29:00,987 --> 01:29:01,907
Speaker 3: select another semen.

1710
01:29:02,787 --> 01:29:05,267
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think the different options we have, it's either

1711
01:29:05,387 --> 01:29:08,707
Speaker 24: that and we've got I guess two other seamas in

1712
01:29:08,747 --> 01:29:12,507
Speaker 24: the squad and JKB Duffy and Nathan Smith, or if

1713
01:29:12,547 --> 01:29:17,387
Speaker 24: we think the pitch will turn appreciatively, then we'd consider

1714
01:29:17,427 --> 01:29:18,587
Speaker 24: another batsman as well.

1715
01:29:18,867 --> 01:29:21,067
Speaker 3: All right, we'll keep our eyes on that and keep

1716
01:29:21,067 --> 01:29:23,147
Speaker 3: our fingers crossed for Matt Henry. If you look at

1717
01:29:23,147 --> 01:29:26,387
Speaker 3: the pool game you played against India, thirty seven of

1718
01:29:26,627 --> 01:29:29,507
Speaker 3: the forty five overs India bowl at you in that

1719
01:29:29,627 --> 01:29:32,747
Speaker 3: game Will Spinovers. Is that what you're expecting again from

1720
01:29:32,787 --> 01:29:33,427
Speaker 3: them in the final?

1721
01:29:34,387 --> 01:29:38,507
Speaker 24: Yeah, to be honest, we're not sure, just because we

1722
01:29:38,587 --> 01:29:40,467
Speaker 24: haven't been down to the stadium yet to have a

1723
01:29:40,507 --> 01:29:43,267
Speaker 24: look at the pitch, and that will have a big bearing.

1724
01:29:43,347 --> 01:29:45,987
Speaker 24: I think on a the makeup of our side, but

1725
01:29:46,107 --> 01:29:48,267
Speaker 24: equally I think the makeup of their side as well.

1726
01:29:48,387 --> 01:29:51,947
Speaker 24: But I'm not expecting India to have too many changes.

1727
01:29:52,347 --> 01:29:55,827
Speaker 24: I'm sure that Chack Bravardi will play against us, considering

1728
01:29:55,867 --> 01:29:58,947
Speaker 24: he got five wickets last time, which probably means they

1729
01:29:59,027 --> 01:30:00,347
Speaker 24: may only have two seamas.

1730
01:30:00,427 --> 01:30:02,867
Speaker 14: So we're certainly planning around that.

1731
01:30:03,107 --> 01:30:05,867
Speaker 24: But we have noticed early in the tournament that they

1732
01:30:05,947 --> 01:30:07,787
Speaker 24: did do it slightly differently though as well.

1733
01:30:08,387 --> 01:30:11,467
Speaker 3: In your eleven you've got four spinners as well, Mitchell Santa,

1734
01:30:11,507 --> 01:30:16,387
Speaker 3: Michael Bricewell, Richen Revendra, Glenn Phillips. Could you foresee a

1735
01:30:16,467 --> 01:30:19,947
Speaker 3: scenario under which you might get thirty five to even

1736
01:30:20,027 --> 01:30:22,427
Speaker 3: forty overs from your spinners in the final?

1737
01:30:23,987 --> 01:30:26,467
Speaker 24: Yeah, just it depends on how it's going in the

1738
01:30:26,547 --> 01:30:29,787
Speaker 24: game and how much it does turn. I think you're

1739
01:30:29,787 --> 01:30:31,427
Speaker 24: sort of the flip side of that. I think our

1740
01:30:31,507 --> 01:30:34,987
Speaker 24: seam bowlers have been really outstanding through this tournament for

1741
01:30:35,147 --> 01:30:38,467
Speaker 24: us as well, and Matt Henry's obviously leading wicket taker

1742
01:30:38,547 --> 01:30:41,587
Speaker 24: at the moment, but Kyle Jamison and Willow Rourke have

1743
01:30:41,907 --> 01:30:44,467
Speaker 24: chipped in with key spells and key wickets at times.

1744
01:30:44,547 --> 01:30:48,387
Speaker 24: So it would really really depend on just the nature

1745
01:30:48,427 --> 01:30:51,587
Speaker 24: of the wicket and whether we do deem it to

1746
01:30:51,707 --> 01:30:55,587
Speaker 24: be more tougher against spinners than pace bowlers. But until

1747
01:30:55,627 --> 01:30:57,707
Speaker 24: you get into the match, it's sometimes hard.

1748
01:30:57,907 --> 01:30:58,347
Speaker 2: To know that.

1749
01:30:58,547 --> 01:31:00,907
Speaker 24: But the good thing is, as you alluded to, we

1750
01:31:01,027 --> 01:31:03,707
Speaker 24: have got I guess forty oervers of spin available to

1751
01:31:03,867 --> 01:31:04,707
Speaker 24: us there if we want it.

1752
01:31:05,067 --> 01:31:07,147
Speaker 3: When you look at the success of seam bowlers and

1753
01:31:07,187 --> 01:31:09,907
Speaker 3: in fact all the same bowlers at this tournament is

1754
01:31:09,947 --> 01:31:14,027
Speaker 3: the ability to vary pace and in fact to take

1755
01:31:14,147 --> 01:31:17,187
Speaker 3: pace off key to bowling well at this tournament in

1756
01:31:17,307 --> 01:31:19,387
Speaker 3: terms of taking wickets and keeping the runs down.

1757
01:31:20,427 --> 01:31:20,627
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1758
01:31:20,707 --> 01:31:24,947
Speaker 24: Look, we've talked about our seams of trying to keep

1759
01:31:25,307 --> 01:31:27,427
Speaker 24: the stumps and players often as we can. Is the

1760
01:31:27,467 --> 01:31:30,027
Speaker 24: wickets are a wee bit up and down in terms

1761
01:31:30,067 --> 01:31:33,067
Speaker 24: of very ability of bounce, so that's been important to us.

1762
01:31:33,147 --> 01:31:35,667
Speaker 24: But you're right, it's also about when you get to

1763
01:31:35,787 --> 01:31:38,267
Speaker 24: those I guess death stages of the innings of not

1764
01:31:38,387 --> 01:31:43,147
Speaker 24: being too predictable. I mean, the players these days have

1765
01:31:44,027 --> 01:31:46,747
Speaker 24: a great ability to clear the boundary and hit the

1766
01:31:46,787 --> 01:31:48,307
Speaker 24: ball out of the park. So I think one of

1767
01:31:48,347 --> 01:31:52,227
Speaker 24: the key things is your own predictability and setting fields

1768
01:31:52,267 --> 01:31:54,907
Speaker 24: that you do have options for them to be able

1769
01:31:54,947 --> 01:31:57,707
Speaker 24: to either go straight or a little bit wider if

1770
01:31:57,747 --> 01:31:58,867
Speaker 24: that's the right option as well.

1771
01:31:59,347 --> 01:32:01,867
Speaker 3: You have of course played in there already in Paul play.

1772
01:32:02,307 --> 01:32:04,947
Speaker 3: It was really the outlier in terms of the Black

1773
01:32:04,987 --> 01:32:07,427
Speaker 3: Apps performances at this tournament. Are you able just to

1774
01:32:07,467 --> 01:32:09,467
Speaker 3: write that game off as a bad day out or

1775
01:32:09,947 --> 01:32:12,427
Speaker 3: can you take things of value from it that will

1776
01:32:12,467 --> 01:32:13,387
Speaker 3: be useful in the final.

1777
01:32:14,227 --> 01:32:15,907
Speaker 14: To be honest, we weren't that bad that day.

1778
01:32:16,867 --> 01:32:20,227
Speaker 24: I thought we bowled really well to restrict India to

1779
01:32:20,467 --> 01:32:22,507
Speaker 24: I think it was two forty five or somewhere around

1780
01:32:22,547 --> 01:32:25,787
Speaker 24: there was good. We just struggled to get partnerships together

1781
01:32:25,907 --> 01:32:29,627
Speaker 24: that day. Other than I guess Caine's eighty odd that

1782
01:32:29,707 --> 01:32:33,787
Speaker 24: he scored, we just struggled to I guess, yeah, get

1783
01:32:33,827 --> 01:32:36,867
Speaker 24: those partnerships and probably slipped a little bit behind the

1784
01:32:36,947 --> 01:32:39,907
Speaker 24: run rates. So it's certainly something that we've been talking

1785
01:32:39,987 --> 01:32:43,027
Speaker 24: about and if we are in a run chase, how

1786
01:32:43,067 --> 01:32:45,147
Speaker 24: we put them under pressure a little bit more, and

1787
01:32:45,587 --> 01:32:49,427
Speaker 24: that may mean some slight jigs in batting orders as well,

1788
01:32:49,627 --> 01:32:52,627
Speaker 24: just to I guess, try and nullify their strengths as well.

1789
01:32:53,187 --> 01:32:55,547
Speaker 3: The batting innings in the semi final against South Africa

1790
01:32:55,707 --> 01:32:59,107
Speaker 3: three sixty two for six batting first centuries to write

1791
01:32:59,147 --> 01:33:02,547
Speaker 3: and revenge Racame Williamson, good knocks from Daryl Mitchell and

1792
01:33:02,627 --> 01:33:05,747
Speaker 3: Glenn Phillips, with strike rates right out there right through

1793
01:33:05,787 --> 01:33:09,467
Speaker 3: the innings. Where does that innings rate among the fifty

1794
01:33:09,507 --> 01:33:11,427
Speaker 3: overrunnings you've ever seen as Black Caps coach?

1795
01:33:12,227 --> 01:33:13,787
Speaker 14: Yeah, it was obviously very good.

1796
01:33:15,987 --> 01:33:17,907
Speaker 24: The nice thing for us is we have all of

1797
01:33:17,947 --> 01:33:20,867
Speaker 24: our batsmen are and some really good form at the moment,

1798
01:33:21,227 --> 01:33:23,427
Speaker 24: and that's always important in the short tournament like this.

1799
01:33:23,667 --> 01:33:26,667
Speaker 24: So I think the build up with the try series

1800
01:33:27,787 --> 01:33:31,827
Speaker 24: against South Africa and Pakistan were important and now it's

1801
01:33:31,947 --> 01:33:35,147
Speaker 24: just around I think us trusting the way that we're playing.

1802
01:33:35,187 --> 01:33:38,427
Speaker 24: I think the template, the blueprint that we're trying to

1803
01:33:38,507 --> 01:33:41,827
Speaker 24: play has obviously been successful and I think the only

1804
01:33:41,907 --> 01:33:44,827
Speaker 24: thing to really remember is the conditions we've come from

1805
01:33:45,027 --> 01:33:49,027
Speaker 24: in Pakistan to UAE here are quite different, so it's

1806
01:33:49,027 --> 01:33:53,387
Speaker 24: about adapting and adapting fast to the conditions tomorrow when

1807
01:33:53,387 --> 01:33:54,267
Speaker 24: we do face India.

1808
01:33:54,387 --> 01:33:56,587
Speaker 3: Yeahhaw was a bit of a road, wasn't it. Dubai

1809
01:33:56,987 --> 01:33:59,027
Speaker 3: not likely to be quite the same, Is it more

1810
01:33:59,347 --> 01:34:01,427
Speaker 3: two fifty to sixty pascol batting first?

1811
01:34:02,267 --> 01:34:05,987
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think the only real difference to that as

1812
01:34:06,027 --> 01:34:08,707
Speaker 24: you saw as you scored to eighty odd and India

1813
01:34:08,787 --> 01:34:10,987
Speaker 24: chase that down and it looked like it was a

1814
01:34:11,107 --> 01:34:14,747
Speaker 24: better wicket than the one we were on. They can

1815
01:34:14,827 --> 01:34:18,667
Speaker 24: sometimes be tricky to read here the wickets. They sometimes

1816
01:34:18,747 --> 01:34:20,907
Speaker 24: look a little bit dull and gray, and sometimes they've

1817
01:34:20,947 --> 01:34:23,507
Speaker 24: got a shiny sheen on them. So it's really been

1818
01:34:23,587 --> 01:34:26,867
Speaker 24: able to read what's what's right right out there. But

1819
01:34:27,347 --> 01:34:31,107
Speaker 24: you're right, the wickets in Pakistan are definitely more batter friendly.

1820
01:34:32,107 --> 01:34:34,787
Speaker 24: The three sixty we scored, I think was probably forty

1821
01:34:34,867 --> 01:34:38,867
Speaker 24: or fifty runs above par, which does augur well with

1822
01:34:39,027 --> 01:34:41,347
Speaker 24: the form of our batsman Gary.

1823
01:34:41,107 --> 01:34:43,507
Speaker 3: With the ball in the fifty over game. We know

1824
01:34:43,587 --> 01:34:46,267
Speaker 3: it's about, you know, economy and keeping the runs down,

1825
01:34:46,387 --> 01:34:50,627
Speaker 3: but how important is taking wickets at regular intervals during

1826
01:34:50,667 --> 01:34:51,587
Speaker 3: a fifty over innings.

1827
01:34:52,507 --> 01:34:54,707
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think the more you can take wickets, the more.

1828
01:34:56,187 --> 01:34:58,507
Speaker 24: One pressure you put on the opposition, but too, you

1829
01:34:58,587 --> 01:35:02,787
Speaker 24: make it harder for them to get a really competitive

1830
01:35:02,987 --> 01:35:05,307
Speaker 24: sort of death stage at the innings at the ends,

1831
01:35:05,347 --> 01:35:07,467
Speaker 24: because you're asking them lin laya order to do that

1832
01:35:07,627 --> 01:35:10,347
Speaker 24: rather than top order batsmen that are in. So one

1833
01:35:10,387 --> 01:35:14,267
Speaker 24: of our key strategies is around continually taking wickets and

1834
01:35:14,347 --> 01:35:15,987
Speaker 24: if it does mean that we go, we leak a

1835
01:35:16,027 --> 01:35:20,267
Speaker 24: few more runs earlier in that knowledge that we are

1836
01:35:20,427 --> 01:35:22,547
Speaker 24: trying to take wickets, then we're prepared to do that

1837
01:35:22,827 --> 01:35:25,947
Speaker 24: because we've seen that if you can take early wickets,

1838
01:35:25,987 --> 01:35:28,067
Speaker 24: it certainly puts more pressure on the opposition.

1839
01:35:28,587 --> 01:35:30,867
Speaker 3: One of your most effective bowlers at this tournament has

1840
01:35:30,947 --> 01:35:33,827
Speaker 3: been Michael Brace. While he's your most economic, always going

1841
01:35:33,827 --> 01:35:35,147
Speaker 3: for less than four and a half and over, his

1842
01:35:35,227 --> 01:35:38,227
Speaker 3: bowled is full compliments in pretty much every game he's

1843
01:35:38,227 --> 01:35:41,627
Speaker 3: picked up wickets as well, including four against Bangladesh. This

1844
01:35:41,707 --> 01:35:44,347
Speaker 3: is a bloke who really only started taking spin bowling

1845
01:35:44,427 --> 01:35:47,067
Speaker 3: seriously a few years ago. What have you made of

1846
01:35:47,307 --> 01:35:50,747
Speaker 3: Michael Brace was emergence as a white ball spinner for

1847
01:35:50,867 --> 01:35:51,707
Speaker 3: you in recent years.

1848
01:35:52,427 --> 01:35:54,227
Speaker 24: He's done it the last couple of years for us

1849
01:35:54,387 --> 01:35:57,307
Speaker 24: and probably more in T twenty cricket where at times

1850
01:35:57,707 --> 01:35:59,667
Speaker 24: he's opened the bowling for us as well and been

1851
01:35:59,707 --> 01:36:03,187
Speaker 24: a real strength. But I think one of Michael's great

1852
01:36:03,347 --> 01:36:07,227
Speaker 24: great strengths is his accuracy. He's not and tall, he

1853
01:36:07,307 --> 01:36:11,987
Speaker 24: gets bounced as well. The Indian players are probably more

1854
01:36:12,027 --> 01:36:14,427
Speaker 24: a debt than others in playing offspin and we did

1855
01:36:14,507 --> 01:36:17,707
Speaker 24: see that last time, although he went for fifty five

1856
01:36:17,827 --> 01:36:19,907
Speaker 24: or something like that off his ten, but still bold

1857
01:36:19,947 --> 01:36:20,547
Speaker 24: pretty well we.

1858
01:36:20,627 --> 01:36:21,227
Speaker 14: Thought as well.

1859
01:36:21,347 --> 01:36:25,987
Speaker 24: So there's really five margins, I guess in having success

1860
01:36:26,067 --> 01:36:29,987
Speaker 24: and not having success at times. But he's been really instrumental,

1861
01:36:30,067 --> 01:36:32,067
Speaker 24: I think in some of the successes that we've had

1862
01:36:32,147 --> 01:36:32,987
Speaker 24: throughout this tournament.

1863
01:36:33,427 --> 01:36:35,627
Speaker 3: Garry, you've been around the game for a long time

1864
01:36:35,667 --> 01:36:39,107
Speaker 3: as a player and as a coach. You've played alongside

1865
01:36:39,147 --> 01:36:42,427
Speaker 3: and with many players. You've coached many many players. Where

1866
01:36:42,427 --> 01:36:45,987
Speaker 3: does rich and Ravendra writ among the New Zealand players

1867
01:36:46,027 --> 01:36:47,787
Speaker 3: you've seen at his age.

1868
01:36:49,067 --> 01:36:49,627
Speaker 14: Right up there?

1869
01:36:49,787 --> 01:36:53,227
Speaker 24: Yeah, there's no doubt he's a very very special talent

1870
01:36:53,387 --> 01:36:57,707
Speaker 24: and has the ability to with the bat anyway to

1871
01:36:58,387 --> 01:37:00,427
Speaker 24: score it or run a ball without looking like he's

1872
01:37:00,467 --> 01:37:02,787
Speaker 24: taking too much risk. And I think when you can

1873
01:37:02,867 --> 01:37:07,067
Speaker 24: do that, he certainly shows the skill sets that he's

1874
01:37:07,107 --> 01:37:09,467
Speaker 24: got in his ability to hit all around the ground

1875
01:37:10,107 --> 01:37:12,587
Speaker 24: can definitely change a game. But you couple that then

1876
01:37:12,627 --> 01:37:15,867
Speaker 24: with his ability to bowl left arms spin, and I

1877
01:37:15,947 --> 01:37:20,587
Speaker 24: think in these conditions there's every chance he could well

1878
01:37:20,667 --> 01:37:23,107
Speaker 24: take a very big part in the game that's coming

1879
01:37:23,187 --> 01:37:23,667
Speaker 24: up tomorrow.

1880
01:37:24,387 --> 01:37:27,267
Speaker 3: And as black Caps coach, you've overseen New Zealand at

1881
01:37:27,267 --> 01:37:29,387
Speaker 3: a World Cup final, the fifty over World Cup Final

1882
01:37:29,427 --> 01:37:33,467
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, a Test Championship final, a T twenty World

1883
01:37:33,507 --> 01:37:36,427
Speaker 3: Cup final. How do you feel ahead of this game

1884
01:37:36,547 --> 01:37:39,387
Speaker 3: compared to how you remember feeling ahead of those matches.

1885
01:37:40,707 --> 01:37:43,587
Speaker 24: I think the more you have those experiences, the more

1886
01:37:43,667 --> 01:37:47,787
Speaker 24: you learn that once it gets into the match, there's

1887
01:37:47,867 --> 01:37:50,147
Speaker 24: not actually too much you can control. It's rarely up

1888
01:37:50,227 --> 01:37:53,627
Speaker 24: to the preparation and making sure you've got guys in

1889
01:37:53,787 --> 01:37:55,227
Speaker 24: good headspace and there's.

1890
01:37:55,347 --> 01:37:57,547
Speaker 14: A real belief in what we're doing. And I think

1891
01:37:57,627 --> 01:37:59,707
Speaker 14: throughout this tournament you have seen that.

1892
01:37:59,907 --> 01:38:04,587
Speaker 24: So look, we'll I guess dot our eyes and cross

1893
01:38:04,627 --> 01:38:07,027
Speaker 24: our teas tonight at training and make sure everyone's nice

1894
01:38:07,027 --> 01:38:09,147
Speaker 24: and clear on the role and what we're asking them

1895
01:38:09,187 --> 01:38:12,827
Speaker 24: to do, and will complete our scouting today of India

1896
01:38:12,867 --> 01:38:14,627
Speaker 24: and make sure we've got our plans and action of

1897
01:38:14,707 --> 01:38:17,147
Speaker 24: how we want to play. But once the game starts,

1898
01:38:17,707 --> 01:38:21,467
Speaker 24: it's really over to the players then, And yeah, you

1899
01:38:21,627 --> 01:38:24,907
Speaker 24: cross your fingers and hope that everything you've done has

1900
01:38:25,387 --> 01:38:27,907
Speaker 24: put them in the right frame of mind to go

1901
01:38:28,027 --> 01:38:31,147
Speaker 24: out and compete and perform and hopefully get the one

1902
01:38:31,227 --> 01:38:31,867
Speaker 24: that we're all after.

1903
01:38:32,307 --> 01:38:33,787
Speaker 3: Well, I won't surprise you to know that there are

1904
01:38:33,787 --> 01:38:36,267
Speaker 3: a lot of people back here stocking up on coffee

1905
01:38:36,347 --> 01:38:38,787
Speaker 3: and red ball and whatever it is that keeps them awake,

1906
01:38:38,827 --> 01:38:41,387
Speaker 3: getting ready for a ten o'clock start tonight to watch

1907
01:38:41,867 --> 01:38:44,107
Speaker 3: the black Caps and action against India competing for the

1908
01:38:44,307 --> 01:38:46,867
Speaker 3: ICC Champions Trophy. Gary, from all of us, all the

1909
01:38:46,947 --> 01:38:50,187
Speaker 3: best to you and the team will be watching through

1910
01:38:50,267 --> 01:38:51,907
Speaker 3: the night and wish you all the best. Thanks for

1911
01:38:51,947 --> 01:38:52,787
Speaker 3: taking the time for a chat.

1912
01:38:53,027 --> 01:38:54,987
Speaker 14: Thanks Bunny Chairs, Thanks Gary, Gary.

1913
01:38:54,827 --> 01:38:58,347
Speaker 3: Stead, coach of the black Caps, keeping it keeping it

1914
01:38:58,467 --> 01:39:01,467
Speaker 3: cool and karm as usual. You never get too many

1915
01:39:02,627 --> 01:39:05,987
Speaker 3: highs and lows from Gary Stead, do you. He's fairly

1916
01:39:06,067 --> 01:39:11,547
Speaker 3: con in his comments and his analysis ten o'clock tonight. Look,

1917
01:39:11,587 --> 01:39:17,107
Speaker 3: I think if Matt Henry plays that really really tips

1918
01:39:17,147 --> 01:39:21,027
Speaker 3: the balance back towards the middle. I think we can

1919
01:39:21,107 --> 01:39:24,107
Speaker 3: all accept that India are favorite, right, I don't think

1920
01:39:24,107 --> 01:39:27,867
Speaker 3: there's any you know, there's no downside and saying yeah,

1921
01:39:27,867 --> 01:39:32,027
Speaker 3: their favorite, their favorite. Tab agree. They haven't had to

1922
01:39:32,147 --> 01:39:35,387
Speaker 3: leave Dubai by the quirk of this draw. They decided no, no,

1923
01:39:35,467 --> 01:39:37,467
Speaker 3: we're not going to play in Pakistan. The rest of

1924
01:39:37,507 --> 01:39:39,587
Speaker 3: you can. We'll stay put in Dubai, thanks very much.

1925
01:39:40,067 --> 01:39:44,067
Speaker 3: And they have. But you know we knew that going

1926
01:39:44,107 --> 01:39:47,467
Speaker 3: in In New Zealand, they've had the chance to travel

1927
01:39:47,507 --> 01:39:49,867
Speaker 3: around and plany on different kinds of surfaces. This won't

1928
01:39:49,947 --> 01:39:52,947
Speaker 3: be like Lahore for the semi final, where it was

1929
01:39:52,987 --> 01:39:55,747
Speaker 3: a batsman's paradise. Whether they get three sixty three sixty

1930
01:39:55,827 --> 01:40:00,867
Speaker 3: two for six batting first. But almost everybody in this

1931
01:40:00,987 --> 01:40:04,587
Speaker 3: New Zealand team with bat ball and in the field

1932
01:40:04,827 --> 01:40:08,507
Speaker 3: is in form. Look at rach And Revender. He's got

1933
01:40:08,947 --> 01:40:13,067
Speaker 3: two hundreds and three innings at this tournament, striking it

1934
01:40:13,147 --> 01:40:15,867
Speaker 3: over a runner ball. Will Young got one hundred in

1935
01:40:15,907 --> 01:40:19,667
Speaker 3: the first game against Pakistan. Came Williamson got one hundred

1936
01:40:19,667 --> 01:40:21,307
Speaker 3: the last time out of the back of eighty one

1937
01:40:21,827 --> 01:40:24,267
Speaker 3: on a very difficult pitch, the same one or close

1938
01:40:24,347 --> 01:40:29,627
Speaker 3: to it against India in the last pull match. Tom

1939
01:40:29,707 --> 01:40:32,907
Speaker 3: Latham got one hundred in the first game, Darryl Mitchell

1940
01:40:33,187 --> 01:40:35,947
Speaker 3: with some handy runs last time out. Glenn Phillips as

1941
01:40:35,987 --> 01:40:38,387
Speaker 3: well was Glen Phillips got one hundred and forty odd

1942
01:40:38,507 --> 01:40:40,707
Speaker 3: runs at seventy in this tournament. He's striking at one

1943
01:40:40,787 --> 01:40:44,867
Speaker 3: hundred and forty and bowling wise, Matt Henry ten wickets

1944
01:40:44,947 --> 01:40:46,987
Speaker 3: leading wicket take him the whole tournament. Like I say, key,

1945
01:40:47,467 --> 01:40:51,387
Speaker 3: but then Bracewell and Santna putting the screws on through

1946
01:40:51,427 --> 01:40:54,107
Speaker 3: those middle overs, both going for less than five and over.

1947
01:40:55,467 --> 01:41:00,667
Speaker 3: Handy contributions from the likes of Will O'Rourke and if

1948
01:41:00,707 --> 01:41:03,227
Speaker 3: you need them rch and Revenger and Glen Phillips can

1949
01:41:03,267 --> 01:41:05,347
Speaker 3: bowl and in the field will Glen Phillips as the

1950
01:41:05,427 --> 01:41:10,627
Speaker 3: flag bearer there We could win this game. It's worth

1951
01:41:10,707 --> 01:41:13,427
Speaker 3: staying up for, as Mitchell Santana said in his pregame

1952
01:41:13,467 --> 01:41:16,747
Speaker 3: press conference, is worth making your excuses for not being

1953
01:41:16,787 --> 01:41:22,147
Speaker 3: at work tomorrow. I'll be up ten o'clock tonight and

1954
01:41:22,307 --> 01:41:24,427
Speaker 3: through the night. Two twenty five news talks A B.

1955
01:41:24,507 --> 01:41:26,667
Speaker 3: We'll take a break when we come back, we will

1956
01:41:27,107 --> 01:41:30,947
Speaker 3: we'll talk domestic cricket. A former international cricketer Tom Bruce,

1957
01:41:31,227 --> 01:41:34,507
Speaker 3: who this week did something pretty special batting for c

1958
01:41:34,667 --> 01:41:37,747
Speaker 3: D against Auckland. He scored three hundred and forty five.

1959
01:41:38,907 --> 01:41:39,907
Speaker 3: Tom Bruce after.

1960
01:41:39,787 --> 01:41:45,387
Speaker 1: This one crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sport with Jason Pain

1961
01:41:45,547 --> 01:41:49,387
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gubbos, new Zealand's first trusted o builder News

1962
01:41:49,467 --> 01:41:51,107
Speaker 1: Talk to Baby two.

1963
01:41:51,027 --> 01:41:53,467
Speaker 3: Twenty eight on Weekend Sport. The White Ferans have posted

1964
01:41:53,507 --> 01:41:56,347
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty for six and their fifty overs

1965
01:41:56,347 --> 01:41:58,427
Speaker 3: batting first against Sri Lanka and Nelson. This is the

1966
01:41:58,467 --> 01:42:01,387
Speaker 3: third and final one day between these two sides. Georgia

1967
01:42:01,427 --> 01:42:04,227
Speaker 3: plummer a first ever One Day International one hundred, one

1968
01:42:04,347 --> 01:42:06,427
Speaker 3: hundred and twelve for the Wellington opener off one one

1969
01:42:06,507 --> 01:42:09,867
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty balls on Tex Pinty. Surely they'll just

1970
01:42:09,947 --> 01:42:12,907
Speaker 3: give Matt Henry a needle in the shoulder. It's the final,

1971
01:42:12,987 --> 01:42:15,747
Speaker 3: for God's sake. They may well do. They may well do.

1972
01:42:16,307 --> 01:42:19,787
Speaker 3: During the week past, Central Stags cricket captain Tom Bruce

1973
01:42:19,907 --> 01:42:23,787
Speaker 3: posted the third highest score in New Zealand first class

1974
01:42:23,867 --> 01:42:28,507
Speaker 3: cricket history three hundred and forty five against Auckland at

1975
01:42:28,627 --> 01:42:31,467
Speaker 3: Eden Park's Outer Oval, the highest first class score in

1976
01:42:31,547 --> 01:42:35,387
Speaker 3: New Zealand since nineteen fifty two, when the late great

1977
01:42:35,547 --> 01:42:39,267
Speaker 3: Bert Sutcliffe produced his national record of three hundred and

1978
01:42:39,307 --> 01:42:41,947
Speaker 3: eighty five. In fact, Burt Sutcliffe is the only person

1979
01:42:42,027 --> 01:42:43,987
Speaker 3: to score more runs in an innings than Tom Bruce.

1980
01:42:44,427 --> 01:42:46,907
Speaker 3: He also scored three hundred and fifty five in a

1981
01:42:46,947 --> 01:42:50,627
Speaker 3: planket shield match in nineteen fifty. Tom Bruce batted for

1982
01:42:50,667 --> 01:42:53,267
Speaker 3: almost nine and a half hours, his three hundred and

1983
01:42:53,347 --> 01:42:55,907
Speaker 3: forty five coming off just four hundred and one balls,

1984
01:42:56,347 --> 01:43:00,467
Speaker 3: thirty six fours and six six's. Tom Bruce's with us.

1985
01:43:00,467 --> 01:43:03,307
Speaker 3: Congratulations mate, With the benefit of a couple of days hindsight,

1986
01:43:03,827 --> 01:43:06,307
Speaker 3: how do you reflect back on this remarkable innings?

1987
01:43:07,787 --> 01:43:12,587
Speaker 21: Thanks having me. Yeah, yeah, it's all all a bit surrelative. Yeah,

1988
01:43:12,587 --> 01:43:16,067
Speaker 21: it probably still isn't sunk in. I think maybe, yeah,

1989
01:43:16,107 --> 01:43:18,787
Speaker 21: maybe once a career is done or end of the season,

1990
01:43:18,827 --> 01:43:21,107
Speaker 21: I look back and yeah, I'll sort of put it

1991
01:43:21,147 --> 01:43:24,267
Speaker 21: into context, and I'm obviously pretty proud of the achievement.

1992
01:43:24,307 --> 01:43:26,027
Speaker 8: I'm proud of the.

1993
01:43:26,067 --> 01:43:30,387
Speaker 21: Now scored that many runs. So yeah, that's all feeling

1994
01:43:30,387 --> 01:43:31,267
Speaker 21: a bit surreal at the moment.

1995
01:43:31,707 --> 01:43:33,747
Speaker 3: I bet you came into what twenty nine for two

1996
01:43:34,347 --> 01:43:37,027
Speaker 3: then that became seventy five for three? Was your early

1997
01:43:37,107 --> 01:43:39,907
Speaker 3: intention really just to kind of steady the ship a bit.

1998
01:43:41,267 --> 01:43:43,547
Speaker 21: Yeah, we obviously we wanted a bowl first as well,

1999
01:43:44,667 --> 01:43:47,267
Speaker 21: so it was a good toss to lose in the

2000
01:43:47,387 --> 01:43:49,947
Speaker 21: end there. But yeah, we knew it was a green

2001
01:43:49,987 --> 01:43:51,587
Speaker 21: wick at and we wanted to make first use of it,

2002
01:43:51,627 --> 01:43:53,347
Speaker 21: and so we sort of knew as a betting group

2003
01:43:53,427 --> 01:43:55,587
Speaker 21: that you know, Alkan Bols are going to put it

2004
01:43:55,627 --> 01:43:58,427
Speaker 21: in some pretty testing areas and test us out there.

2005
01:43:58,507 --> 01:44:00,867
Speaker 21: Don Yeah, fortunately I was able to get through that

2006
01:44:01,027 --> 01:44:04,027
Speaker 21: and sort of new once got through my first twenty

2007
01:44:04,107 --> 01:44:06,987
Speaker 21: thirty balls, and yeah, was seen it and was feeling

2008
01:44:06,987 --> 01:44:09,827
Speaker 21: pretty good. It was just about making sure, you know,

2009
01:44:09,907 --> 01:44:11,947
Speaker 21: you can stick to your game plan for the long

2010
01:44:11,947 --> 01:44:14,907
Speaker 21: periods of time and show that discipline, and yeah, fortunately

2011
01:44:15,747 --> 01:44:18,907
Speaker 21: it Yeah, I was able to do that and tomorrow Earth.

2012
01:44:19,067 --> 01:44:22,587
Speaker 21: You know, a school like that was just really pleasing,

2013
01:44:23,147 --> 01:44:23,387
Speaker 21: and you.

2014
01:44:23,427 --> 01:44:25,467
Speaker 3: Got together with a couple of your teammates for really

2015
01:44:25,467 --> 01:44:27,507
Speaker 3: good partnerships. She had a two hundred and ninety two

2016
01:44:27,547 --> 01:44:30,347
Speaker 3: with Dane Cleaver for the fourth wicket three hundred and

2017
01:44:30,427 --> 01:44:33,307
Speaker 3: three with Josh Clarkson for the fifth, both new records

2018
01:44:33,347 --> 01:44:37,027
Speaker 3: incidentally for the Central Stags. As far as partnerships, are concerned.

2019
01:44:37,307 --> 01:44:39,347
Speaker 3: How helpful was it to you to be involved in

2020
01:44:39,707 --> 01:44:43,747
Speaker 3: in such significant long partnerships during your own innings.

2021
01:44:44,707 --> 01:44:47,347
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, the better unit. You always talk about, you know,

2022
01:44:47,387 --> 01:44:50,867
Speaker 21: building partnerships, you know, with a couple of guys, and

2023
01:44:51,667 --> 01:44:52,987
Speaker 21: it was awesome to be out a bet with Dane

2024
01:44:53,027 --> 01:44:56,147
Speaker 21: and Josh for that long and build those partnerships.

2025
01:44:56,187 --> 01:44:56,267
Speaker 20: You know.

2026
01:44:56,267 --> 01:44:59,067
Speaker 21: Obviously without those guys there and you know, there's there's

2027
01:44:59,067 --> 01:45:01,187
Speaker 21: selling no way a bit of betle to make three

2028
01:45:01,267 --> 01:45:04,507
Speaker 21: forty five, so it was really crucial that those guys

2029
01:45:04,547 --> 01:45:07,347
Speaker 21: got going as well. It just really pleased for them.

2030
01:45:07,747 --> 01:45:11,107
Speaker 21: Obviously Dane had been the form better for us in

2031
01:45:11,187 --> 01:45:13,427
Speaker 21: the four days before Christmas, and it was just awesome

2032
01:45:13,467 --> 01:45:15,987
Speaker 21: that he carried that form on. And obviously Josh had

2033
01:45:16,107 --> 01:45:17,667
Speaker 21: hadn't played a whole lot of for De Criget before

2034
01:45:17,707 --> 01:45:20,467
Speaker 21: Christmas year was injured, so really stoked for him to

2035
01:45:20,787 --> 01:45:22,907
Speaker 21: get some quality time in the middle, and both of

2036
01:45:22,947 --> 01:45:25,787
Speaker 21: them played really mature knocks and it was just awesome

2037
01:45:25,827 --> 01:45:28,227
Speaker 21: to sort of bounce off them and feed off there

2038
01:45:29,427 --> 01:45:30,947
Speaker 21: the sort of energy as well in the middle, so

2039
01:45:31,147 --> 01:45:33,027
Speaker 21: it was awesome. You know, a couple of my good

2040
01:45:33,107 --> 01:45:35,387
Speaker 21: mates as well, So just really stoked for them to

2041
01:45:35,667 --> 01:45:37,107
Speaker 21: both be able to get three figures as well.

2042
01:45:37,627 --> 01:45:39,947
Speaker 3: You're right there for nine and a half hours. Did

2043
01:45:40,067 --> 01:45:42,867
Speaker 3: fatigue start to become a factor at any stage?

2044
01:45:45,467 --> 01:45:47,507
Speaker 21: Not really, No, I think you sort of you just

2045
01:45:47,547 --> 01:45:49,147
Speaker 21: become accustomed to it. Maybe if it was at the

2046
01:45:49,187 --> 01:45:51,347
Speaker 21: start of the season and the body is not used

2047
01:45:51,347 --> 01:45:54,467
Speaker 21: to betting so so long out in the middle, But yeah,

2048
01:45:54,507 --> 01:45:56,227
Speaker 21: I think once we're in the crux of the season, Yeah,

2049
01:45:56,387 --> 01:46:00,187
Speaker 21: your body just becomes accustomed to betting. And you know,

2050
01:46:00,387 --> 01:46:03,467
Speaker 21: fortunately we went running too many tight singles or anything

2051
01:46:03,547 --> 01:46:07,907
Speaker 21: like that, so there's a few boundaries in between. And yeah,

2052
01:46:07,987 --> 01:46:12,427
Speaker 21: certainly we were able to not become fatigued or give

2053
01:46:12,747 --> 01:46:13,507
Speaker 21: too many chances.

2054
01:46:14,547 --> 01:46:18,147
Speaker 3: I've heard that you gave just two chances in the

2055
01:46:18,347 --> 01:46:22,267
Speaker 3: entire runnings. I certainly hope for the sake of whoever

2056
01:46:22,347 --> 01:46:24,187
Speaker 3: dropped them that it wasn't. When you're on about fourteen

2057
01:46:24,347 --> 01:46:27,107
Speaker 3: or something. What at what stage of the links did

2058
01:46:27,107 --> 01:46:29,227
Speaker 3: you offer up a couple of you know, a little

2059
01:46:29,267 --> 01:46:31,427
Speaker 3: snippets of hope to the Auckland side.

2060
01:46:31,947 --> 01:46:34,947
Speaker 21: Yeah, to be fair, they were pretty tough ones. There

2061
01:46:35,067 --> 01:46:39,427
Speaker 21: was a leg side stumping off the spinner. I just

2062
01:46:39,467 --> 01:46:41,467
Speaker 21: sort of lost balance. I was on about forty seven,

2063
01:46:41,507 --> 01:46:44,547
Speaker 21: I think then, and then there was one when I

2064
01:46:44,587 --> 01:46:50,067
Speaker 21: was like, I think like a one handed diving the tenth,

2065
01:46:50,187 --> 01:46:55,907
Speaker 21: so a couple of really tough chances. But yeah, certainly, yeah, yes,

2066
01:46:56,027 --> 01:47:01,067
Speaker 21: I've taken those. Obviously we were having this conversation and yeah,

2067
01:47:01,347 --> 01:47:04,107
Speaker 21: it wouldn't be wouldn't be where we are now.

2068
01:47:04,627 --> 01:47:06,987
Speaker 3: It's funny get a week ago, you probably didn't think

2069
01:47:06,987 --> 01:47:08,507
Speaker 3: you'd be saying the scene until I gave a chance

2070
01:47:08,547 --> 01:47:11,827
Speaker 3: when I was on two ninety aclearly not.

2071
01:47:11,987 --> 01:47:12,427
Speaker 11: Certainly not.

2072
01:47:13,387 --> 01:47:15,707
Speaker 21: I didn't score too many runs in the first four

2073
01:47:16,147 --> 01:47:20,387
Speaker 21: four day games before Christmas, so yeah, even even to

2074
01:47:20,467 --> 01:47:23,547
Speaker 21: be saying I've scored over probably forty, you know, it

2075
01:47:23,587 --> 01:47:24,547
Speaker 21: would have been really good.

2076
01:47:25,627 --> 01:47:26,707
Speaker 7: Yeah, very very heavy.

2077
01:47:27,467 --> 01:47:29,987
Speaker 3: Were you aware of the records you were breaking along

2078
01:47:30,067 --> 01:47:30,347
Speaker 3: the way?

2079
01:47:32,747 --> 01:47:37,067
Speaker 21: The only one I knew of was the Central Stags

2080
01:47:37,107 --> 01:47:39,427
Speaker 21: one the top top run score for them. I knew

2081
01:47:39,987 --> 01:47:43,147
Speaker 21: Peter Ingram had to record at two forty seven a

2082
01:47:43,227 --> 01:47:46,307
Speaker 21: few years ago. Ben Smith I was playing for them,

2083
01:47:46,587 --> 01:47:48,547
Speaker 21: he made two hundred and forty four, and obviously the

2084
01:47:48,587 --> 01:47:50,187
Speaker 21: guys were talking about how he just missed out on

2085
01:47:50,227 --> 01:47:53,227
Speaker 21: the record. So I knew that one, but I didn't

2086
01:47:53,267 --> 01:47:57,387
Speaker 21: know anything else of the sorts or any of the

2087
01:47:57,427 --> 01:48:00,307
Speaker 21: partnership records until the end of the day. So it's

2088
01:48:00,307 --> 01:48:02,867
Speaker 21: one of those ones you don't really look too much

2089
01:48:02,867 --> 01:48:07,467
Speaker 21: into those. It sort of just probably happens afterwards. But yeah,

2090
01:48:07,587 --> 01:48:10,747
Speaker 21: you're pretty cool to be up there. It was the

2091
01:48:10,787 --> 01:48:13,387
Speaker 21: third third highest and I'm playing at Shield and well

2092
01:48:13,427 --> 01:48:16,267
Speaker 21: first class and New Zeland behind, you know, the legion

2093
01:48:16,307 --> 01:48:17,187
Speaker 21: that was Bert Cyclist.

2094
01:48:19,107 --> 01:48:21,147
Speaker 3: When you get to three hundred and forty odd, do

2095
01:48:21,467 --> 01:48:23,587
Speaker 3: you start to think about getting four hundred.

2096
01:48:26,387 --> 01:48:26,907
Speaker 16: Like I was.

2097
01:48:27,987 --> 01:48:29,987
Speaker 21: I had a few people sort of messaging and saying, no,

2098
01:48:30,187 --> 01:48:32,027
Speaker 21: you know, you should just keep adding and keep adding

2099
01:48:32,067 --> 01:48:35,547
Speaker 21: and don't worry about declaring. But we, yeah, you know,

2100
01:48:35,627 --> 01:48:37,907
Speaker 21: trying to get to four hundred and like, look break

2101
01:48:37,987 --> 01:48:40,347
Speaker 21: Brian Lar's record or something like that. But no, it

2102
01:48:40,427 --> 01:48:42,587
Speaker 21: was one of those ones when we were bat in

2103
01:48:42,707 --> 01:48:44,587
Speaker 21: first we we didn't have a number in mind when

2104
01:48:44,587 --> 01:48:47,707
Speaker 21: we wanted to declare. But it was probably helpful that

2105
01:48:48,067 --> 01:48:50,187
Speaker 21: I did get out when I did, and we were

2106
01:48:50,227 --> 01:48:52,507
Speaker 21: just able to clear soon after that, and once Clark

2107
01:48:52,547 --> 01:48:55,587
Speaker 21: he had got us the seven hundred, So yeah, it

2108
01:48:55,667 --> 01:48:57,787
Speaker 21: was just fortunately we went from six hundred to seven

2109
01:48:57,867 --> 01:49:00,987
Speaker 21: hundred pretty quickly, so we were able to get going

2110
01:49:01,027 --> 01:49:04,907
Speaker 21: and it just sort of and just once we got

2111
01:49:04,947 --> 01:49:08,147
Speaker 21: seven hundred was yeah the pool plans. So I was

2112
01:49:08,187 --> 01:49:10,427
Speaker 21: always going to be declaring once I got a number,

2113
01:49:10,467 --> 01:49:13,787
Speaker 21: regardless of what if I was still betting or Clarkey

2114
01:49:13,907 --> 01:49:14,427
Speaker 21: was still betting.

2115
01:49:14,507 --> 01:49:18,587
Speaker 3: So yeah, you mentioned before about the early part of

2116
01:49:18,627 --> 01:49:21,627
Speaker 3: the season. Yeah, four planket shield matches. He had six

2117
01:49:21,747 --> 01:49:25,547
Speaker 3: beats for seventy nine runs total. Why was former but

2118
01:49:25,667 --> 01:49:27,747
Speaker 3: hard to come by with the red ball early in

2119
01:49:27,787 --> 01:49:28,667
Speaker 3: the in the season.

2120
01:49:29,587 --> 01:49:32,387
Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, I had just struggled that first part. I

2121
01:49:32,467 --> 01:49:34,987
Speaker 21: think I was put too much expectations on myself, to

2122
01:49:35,027 --> 01:49:38,787
Speaker 21: be honest, which then probably hampered Yeah, just my clarity

2123
01:49:38,827 --> 01:49:42,467
Speaker 21: and decision making out in the middle. So yeah, certainly

2124
01:49:42,507 --> 01:49:44,387
Speaker 21: I played for a bit more freedom this last innings

2125
01:49:44,387 --> 01:49:47,867
Speaker 21: and just went back to basics really. So I've got

2126
01:49:47,867 --> 01:49:50,227
Speaker 21: a pretty simple game turn and a pretty simple technique.

2127
01:49:50,267 --> 01:49:52,947
Speaker 21: So once I sort of stick with that and like

2128
01:49:53,027 --> 01:49:56,227
Speaker 21: I said, just show discipline and my decision making over

2129
01:49:56,747 --> 01:49:58,267
Speaker 21: a long periods of time. You know, I know I

2130
01:49:58,307 --> 01:50:02,027
Speaker 21: can score runs and school and quickly. So yeah, just

2131
01:50:02,067 --> 01:50:05,427
Speaker 21: back to basics really, But yes, certainly certainly struggled those

2132
01:50:05,427 --> 01:50:07,427
Speaker 21: first four games, and then it felt like I owed

2133
01:50:08,307 --> 01:50:10,547
Speaker 21: the team of fifty runs. So like you said, there's

2134
01:50:10,867 --> 01:50:13,987
Speaker 21: seven year runs and six innings, yeah, one and two flash,

2135
01:50:14,067 --> 01:50:16,907
Speaker 21: So definitely, oh the boys for your runs out.

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01:50:16,747 --> 01:50:19,667
Speaker 3: There, But then went into the white ball stuff terrific

2137
01:50:19,747 --> 01:50:22,347
Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty nine runs at fifty six and

2138
01:50:22,507 --> 01:50:24,627
Speaker 3: striking at one point fifty seven and the super smash

2139
01:50:24,627 --> 01:50:27,707
Speaker 3: four hundred and thirty four Trophy runs and ten inning striking.

2140
01:50:27,747 --> 01:50:29,427
Speaker 3: It better than a run a ball. So clearly it's

2141
01:50:29,467 --> 01:50:32,307
Speaker 3: possible to play yourself into red ball form with the

2142
01:50:32,387 --> 01:50:33,267
Speaker 3: white ball, is it.

2143
01:50:34,427 --> 01:50:34,627
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2144
01:50:34,667 --> 01:50:37,787
Speaker 21: Absolutely, I think you know, guys sort of chop and

2145
01:50:37,867 --> 01:50:40,387
Speaker 21: change between white ball and red bull pretty quickly now,

2146
01:50:40,467 --> 01:50:43,347
Speaker 21: and you have to adapt pretty quickly. So I think

2147
01:50:43,347 --> 01:50:44,987
Speaker 21: the white ball is really good for the red bull game.

2148
01:50:45,707 --> 01:50:47,307
Speaker 21: You know, you can get in some really good positions

2149
01:50:47,347 --> 01:50:50,227
Speaker 21: and play some strong shots, and it's just about doing that,

2150
01:50:50,507 --> 01:50:52,827
Speaker 21: like I said, for long periods of time the Red Bulls.

2151
01:50:52,867 --> 01:50:57,307
Speaker 21: So yeah, that's one of the things. I've felt like

2152
01:50:57,347 --> 01:50:59,627
Speaker 21: They've been sparting really well and had a good season

2153
01:50:59,707 --> 01:51:02,307
Speaker 21: so far other than those first four four day games,

2154
01:51:02,347 --> 01:51:05,787
Speaker 21: So it's just nice to get out of there. Spin spin,

2155
01:51:05,867 --> 01:51:09,747
Speaker 21: a real long and long time out there, and yeah,

2156
01:51:10,027 --> 01:51:12,147
Speaker 21: so it was nice being able to go straight from

2157
01:51:12,187 --> 01:51:14,467
Speaker 21: white ball straight into red bull and that certainly helped

2158
01:51:14,507 --> 01:51:15,587
Speaker 21: me the other day.

2159
01:51:16,347 --> 01:51:17,867
Speaker 3: It certainly did well. No one can ever take it

2160
01:51:17,907 --> 01:51:19,667
Speaker 3: away from him, mate, three hundred and forty five. What

2161
01:51:19,787 --> 01:51:21,787
Speaker 3: in an an xete you do at some stage get

2162
01:51:21,867 --> 01:51:23,747
Speaker 3: the chance to move out of the surreal stage and

2163
01:51:23,827 --> 01:51:27,147
Speaker 3: into accepting exactly what you've done, because it's an absolutely

2164
01:51:27,187 --> 01:51:28,627
Speaker 3: outstanding piece of cricket history.

2165
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Speaker 17: Time.

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01:51:28,907 --> 01:51:31,587
Speaker 3: Congratulations mate, and thanks for taking the time for a chat.

2167
01:51:31,627 --> 01:51:32,747
Speaker 3: All the best for the rest of the summer.

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01:51:33,867 --> 01:51:35,427
Speaker 21: Thanks very much for having me. Much appreciate it.

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01:51:35,747 --> 01:51:37,627
Speaker 3: No great to have you on, Tom Things. Indeed Tom Bruce,

2170
01:51:38,107 --> 01:51:40,427
Speaker 3: captain of the Central Stags and owner now of the

2171
01:51:40,547 --> 01:51:43,587
Speaker 3: third highest score in first class cricket in New Zealand history,

2172
01:51:43,707 --> 01:51:46,867
Speaker 3: three hundred and forty five of just four hundred and

2173
01:51:46,907 --> 01:51:49,307
Speaker 3: one balls across nine and a half hours betting for

2174
01:51:49,347 --> 01:51:52,027
Speaker 3: the Central Stags against the Auckland Aces at Eden Park's

2175
01:51:52,067 --> 01:51:56,467
Speaker 3: Outer Oval during this week past twenty two away from three.

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01:51:56,627 --> 01:51:58,467
Speaker 3: Let's get another breakaway. When we come back, we'll get

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01:51:58,467 --> 01:52:02,987
Speaker 3: to christ Church and preview the Crusaders against the Reds

2178
01:52:03,347 --> 01:52:06,547
Speaker 3: this afternoon to wrap the Super Rugby round. It's a

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01:52:06,627 --> 01:52:09,987
Speaker 3: rare three thirty five Sunday kickoff to look forward to.

2180
01:52:10,267 --> 01:52:12,107
Speaker 3: Nick Bill is going to join us to preview this

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01:52:12,187 --> 01:52:14,067
Speaker 3: one when we come back here on weekends sporot.

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01:52:15,067 --> 01:52:17,987
Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have yours say on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pin and GJ. Guvnerholmes,

2184
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Speaker 3: They'd be just on eighteen away from three on text

2186
01:52:28,267 --> 01:52:31,267
Speaker 3: from Tim. If Henry is out, I would play Nathan

2187
01:52:31,347 --> 01:52:34,747
Speaker 3: Smith and I would drop O'Rourke and play Conway. That

2188
01:52:34,787 --> 01:52:37,507
Speaker 3: will be a strong batting lineup, thanks Timmy. I've heard

2189
01:52:37,547 --> 01:52:41,107
Speaker 3: it suggested that they may bring Mark Chapman and as

2190
01:52:41,147 --> 01:52:44,027
Speaker 3: an extra batter. I think would be him rather than Conway.

2191
01:52:44,347 --> 01:52:46,267
Speaker 3: You know, Chapman might be have a bit more about

2192
01:52:46,307 --> 01:52:49,947
Speaker 3: him in the middle order. I think they'll be absolutely

2193
01:52:49,987 --> 01:52:52,347
Speaker 3: hoping that Matt Henry is still okay to play. I

2194
01:52:52,427 --> 01:52:54,627
Speaker 3: guess we'll find out a little bit later on. Let's

2195
01:52:54,667 --> 01:52:57,267
Speaker 3: get you to christ Church, where the hardest working man

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01:52:57,347 --> 01:53:01,787
Speaker 3: in broadcasting is joining us. Look don't laugh, mate, of

2197
01:53:01,947 --> 01:53:05,227
Speaker 3: look I everywhere I turn and look and listen this weekend,

2198
01:53:05,667 --> 01:53:07,667
Speaker 3: I hear the voice of Nick Beuley. How are you?

2199
01:53:08,467 --> 01:53:11,307
Speaker 2: Oh you poor thing? Yeah, No, I'm going okay, mate,

2200
01:53:11,307 --> 01:53:11,947
Speaker 2: I'm going okay.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm back back where I belong in an authoritati

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01:53:15,507 --> 01:53:18,267
Speaker 10: christ Church. And yeah, there's a great couple of days

2203
01:53:18,307 --> 01:53:21,267
Speaker 10: down there and Anita know the Track and Field National Championships.

2204
01:53:21,267 --> 01:53:23,387
Speaker 10: As you know, Piney still on going last day today,

2205
01:53:23,467 --> 01:53:29,227
Speaker 10: but I've relinquished my athletics duties and have assumed my

2206
01:53:29,667 --> 01:53:32,547
Speaker 10: well customary position out Apollo Projects, saying him in christ Church.

2207
01:53:32,667 --> 01:53:35,467
Speaker 10: We don't get much Sunday afternoon footing down these parts,

2208
01:53:35,507 --> 01:53:38,067
Speaker 10: so it's pretty exciting. We've just come off the back

2209
01:53:38,107 --> 01:53:40,787
Speaker 10: of a very good Mutt to two when over your

2210
01:53:40,867 --> 01:53:44,707
Speaker 10: Hurricanes power twenty nine points to seven to set the tone,

2211
01:53:44,787 --> 01:53:46,627
Speaker 10: and yeah, now built towards.

2212
01:53:46,667 --> 01:53:48,987
Speaker 2: Crusader's Reds to close out what's just.

2213
01:53:49,067 --> 01:53:52,787
Speaker 10: Been a remarkable another remarkable week of Super Rugby Pacific.

2214
01:53:52,867 --> 01:53:55,787
Speaker 10: When you think the Blues losing the Chiefs the Canes.

2215
01:53:56,347 --> 01:53:58,267
Speaker 10: Did I mentioned the Canes lost, Piney.

2216
01:53:58,067 --> 01:54:00,067
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say I was hoping to gloss over

2217
01:54:00,147 --> 01:54:03,947
Speaker 3: the Hurricanes and the Hurricanes power actually, but then I'm

2218
01:54:03,947 --> 01:54:06,107
Speaker 3: actually a little bit worried that you'll mention the phoenix,

2219
01:54:06,387 --> 01:54:08,347
Speaker 3: but we can maybe leave that off to one side

2220
01:54:08,347 --> 01:54:10,867
Speaker 3: as well. You're right though, it has been a terrific

2221
01:54:10,947 --> 01:54:13,907
Speaker 3: weekend of Super Rugby with upsets along the way. What

2222
01:54:14,187 --> 01:54:17,467
Speaker 3: chance another one this afternoon? The Reds they could beat

2223
01:54:17,507 --> 01:54:18,547
Speaker 3: the Crusaders, couldn't they.

2224
01:54:18,787 --> 01:54:21,347
Speaker 10: Well, I'll put that back to you. What would you

2225
01:54:21,427 --> 01:54:24,267
Speaker 10: consider an ups yet? Because this is a Reds team

2226
01:54:24,587 --> 01:54:27,827
Speaker 10: brimming with confidence. They've won their opening two fixtures. They

2227
01:54:27,987 --> 01:54:30,907
Speaker 10: know what it takes to win here at this very venue.

2228
01:54:30,987 --> 01:54:33,267
Speaker 10: They did it in May of last year, albeit that

2229
01:54:33,427 --> 01:54:36,787
Speaker 10: was the first time in quarter of a century. And

2230
01:54:36,907 --> 01:54:40,827
Speaker 10: this is a Crusaders team that haven't played for sixteen

2231
01:54:40,987 --> 01:54:43,427
Speaker 10: days and the last time they played they were belted,

2232
01:54:43,747 --> 01:54:46,147
Speaker 10: you know, they shipped forty nine points by you know,

2233
01:54:46,387 --> 01:54:47,627
Speaker 10: a very good Chiefs team.

2234
01:54:47,747 --> 01:54:50,187
Speaker 2: So I actually did glance at the tab.

2235
01:54:49,947 --> 01:54:51,747
Speaker 10: Odds before and I saw that the Reds are out

2236
01:54:51,787 --> 01:54:54,347
Speaker 10: to three dollars Eightien thought, gee, is if you're looking

2237
01:54:54,387 --> 01:54:57,387
Speaker 10: for a bit of value on a Sunday afternoon, gamble responsibly.

2238
01:54:57,427 --> 01:54:59,307
Speaker 2: But look, it is a fascinating contest.

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01:54:59,907 --> 01:55:02,347
Speaker 10: I think I don't think the Crusader's are runaway favorites

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Speaker 10: and we might have a situation. I think I saw

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01:55:05,307 --> 01:55:07,587
Speaker 10: it was at Rugby Data, but the great guys there

2242
01:55:07,667 --> 01:55:10,947
Speaker 10: do that work on social media saying it might be

2243
01:55:11,027 --> 01:55:13,347
Speaker 10: the first time and well over a decade that the

2244
01:55:13,427 --> 01:55:16,947
Speaker 10: Foundation New Zealand side's involved in a round of Super Rugby.

2245
01:55:16,987 --> 01:55:19,667
Speaker 10: If the Crusaders do lose, you know, it hasn't happened

2246
01:55:19,707 --> 01:55:21,027
Speaker 10: for over a decade that none of.

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01:55:21,027 --> 01:55:21,507
Speaker 2: Them have won.

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01:55:22,227 --> 01:55:25,227
Speaker 10: Yes, incredibly staggering, but look, I am intrigued to see

2249
01:55:25,227 --> 01:55:27,627
Speaker 10: how the Crusaders bounced back your You know, it is curious,

2250
01:55:27,627 --> 01:55:30,507
Speaker 10: particularly after a bye so long to think about that

2251
01:55:30,667 --> 01:55:33,747
Speaker 10: loss against the Chiefs. They are restored by one of

2252
01:55:33,787 --> 01:55:36,947
Speaker 10: their best with Cody Taylor at hooker and a change

2253
01:55:36,947 --> 01:55:38,507
Speaker 10: there in the midfield too, which I feel like did

2254
01:55:38,587 --> 01:55:41,467
Speaker 10: have to be made with Dallas McLeod now starting Levi L.

2255
01:55:41,547 --> 01:55:43,627
Speaker 10: Miller can bring a bit of and packed off the bench.

2256
01:55:43,707 --> 01:55:46,107
Speaker 10: So look, I think they'll be itching to go. Crusaders

2257
01:55:46,187 --> 01:55:48,587
Speaker 10: need to sort their starts. It's been another r Kelles Hill.

2258
01:55:48,667 --> 01:55:52,027
Speaker 10: But look as a beautiful date out here Piney, no

2259
01:55:52,187 --> 01:55:55,787
Speaker 10: excuses in terms of conditions, should be perfect for running rugby.

2260
01:55:55,867 --> 01:55:57,107
Speaker 10: Between two very good teams.

2261
01:55:57,747 --> 01:56:00,267
Speaker 3: Just in your first five position there, Taher Kamada has

2262
01:56:00,307 --> 01:56:02,707
Speaker 3: been given the keys to the car in the teen

2263
01:56:02,787 --> 01:56:05,547
Speaker 3: jumper and will again this afternoon. Do you think there's

2264
01:56:05,627 --> 01:56:09,387
Speaker 3: any temtion for James O'Connor to at some stage get

2265
01:56:09,427 --> 01:56:10,307
Speaker 3: a start at ten?

2266
01:56:11,587 --> 01:56:12,307
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

2267
01:56:12,387 --> 01:56:14,347
Speaker 10: And I put that question to James O'Connor earlier in

2268
01:56:14,387 --> 01:56:15,867
Speaker 10: the week. You know, this is a guy who's been

2269
01:56:15,907 --> 01:56:19,347
Speaker 10: around for well half his life. He's played professional rugby,

2270
01:56:19,667 --> 01:56:22,467
Speaker 10: including against this team he goes up against this afternoon

2271
01:56:22,507 --> 01:56:25,307
Speaker 10: of the Queensland Reds, but he doesn't want to consider

2272
01:56:25,387 --> 01:56:28,227
Speaker 10: himself as a closer. Yes he can do it, but

2273
01:56:28,387 --> 01:56:31,787
Speaker 10: he's putting a lot of pressure on young Tahakim at

2274
01:56:31,827 --> 01:56:36,107
Speaker 10: a good pressure, you know, good competitive pressure in and

2275
01:56:36,187 --> 01:56:38,707
Speaker 10: around the training during the week, as is Rivers. Rahana

2276
01:56:38,787 --> 01:56:42,587
Speaker 10: too's just coming back from an injury and allowing the

2277
01:56:42,707 --> 01:56:45,267
Speaker 10: Rob Pennies and the James Marshalls to make the decision

2278
01:56:45,267 --> 01:56:46,387
Speaker 10: about their best balance.

2279
01:56:46,427 --> 01:56:48,947
Speaker 2: But as we're seeing so much piney, particularly this season,

2280
01:56:49,747 --> 01:56:49,987
Speaker 2: it is.

2281
01:56:49,987 --> 01:56:51,947
Speaker 10: A twenty three und game and look at the Chiefs,

2282
01:56:52,067 --> 01:56:54,267
Speaker 10: you know, all going down to the drawer in love

2283
01:56:54,347 --> 01:56:57,707
Speaker 10: Tokyo yesterday. But their use of the bench, particularly against

2284
01:56:57,747 --> 01:56:59,027
Speaker 10: the Crusaders.

2285
01:56:58,467 --> 01:56:59,187
Speaker 2: A fortnight ago.

2286
01:56:59,747 --> 01:57:04,507
Speaker 10: You know they've got that balance bang on and so O'Connor, Yep,

2287
01:57:04,547 --> 01:57:06,387
Speaker 10: he'll come off the bench today. Will be interesting to

2288
01:57:06,467 --> 01:57:08,267
Speaker 10: see when he's introduced, because he came in and around

2289
01:57:08,307 --> 01:57:10,947
Speaker 10: that fifty minute mark against the Chiefs and try to

2290
01:57:10,987 --> 01:57:12,547
Speaker 10: force it a little bit too much and that's when

2291
01:57:12,587 --> 01:57:15,267
Speaker 10: it went all pear shapes. But I can see a

2292
01:57:15,307 --> 01:57:18,667
Speaker 10: scenario to answer your question, particularly if the results start

2293
01:57:18,747 --> 01:57:21,627
Speaker 10: to go not the way that the Crusaders want, that

2294
01:57:21,867 --> 01:57:24,387
Speaker 10: they'll turn to O'Connor and the ten jumper.

2295
01:57:24,987 --> 01:57:27,027
Speaker 3: You talked about the change in midfield as well, where

2296
01:57:27,067 --> 01:57:30,107
Speaker 3: Dallas McLeod's come into the thirteen jumper. Levi ol Moore

2297
01:57:30,107 --> 01:57:32,427
Speaker 3: has dropped down to the bench and our more played

2298
01:57:32,547 --> 01:57:35,747
Speaker 3: well most games at center last year for the Crusaders.

2299
01:57:36,067 --> 01:57:38,387
Speaker 3: I think when he arrived, everybody was talking about how

2300
01:57:38,427 --> 01:57:41,067
Speaker 3: this would be the step towards a black jersey for

2301
01:57:41,187 --> 01:57:44,427
Speaker 3: Levi Almoor. It hasn't happened at all in the way

2302
01:57:44,467 --> 01:57:46,827
Speaker 3: I'm sure he or the Crusaders would have hoped. What

2303
01:57:46,947 --> 01:57:49,067
Speaker 3: have you made of his time at the Crusaders and

2304
01:57:49,307 --> 01:57:51,627
Speaker 3: can he get back to that more on a pacifica

2305
01:57:51,747 --> 01:57:54,067
Speaker 3: form which had him been talked about as a potential

2306
01:57:54,107 --> 01:57:54,467
Speaker 3: All Black.

2307
01:57:55,667 --> 01:57:58,187
Speaker 2: To be honest, probably I can't see it. I can't

2308
01:57:58,227 --> 01:57:58,747
Speaker 2: see it now.

2309
01:57:58,947 --> 01:58:01,667
Speaker 10: And one of the other reasons too, is that the

2310
01:58:01,747 --> 01:58:03,907
Speaker 10: strength and depth in the Crusader's midfield is not an

2311
01:58:03,907 --> 01:58:06,627
Speaker 10: issue at all. Brandon in or did it play any

2312
01:58:06,707 --> 01:58:09,467
Speaker 10: rugby for the Crusaders last year due to an acel injury,

2313
01:58:09,547 --> 01:58:12,947
Speaker 10: also picked up a broken wrist in the preseason this year.

2314
01:58:12,987 --> 01:58:14,027
Speaker 2: He's now declared fit.

2315
01:58:14,107 --> 01:58:16,667
Speaker 10: They've decided to give him one more week, But all

2316
01:58:17,387 --> 01:58:20,867
Speaker 10: being equal, Brandon l will be the starting outside center

2317
01:58:21,907 --> 01:58:25,587
Speaker 10: from perhaps next week onwards, unless Dallas McLeod or Levi

2318
01:58:25,867 --> 01:58:29,067
Speaker 10: Miller have a big game here this afternoon. So for

2319
01:58:29,507 --> 01:58:31,987
Speaker 10: whatever reason, and of course it wasn't just Levi O.

2320
01:58:32,107 --> 01:58:34,347
Speaker 10: Millow had a bad year in twenty twenty four. The

2321
01:58:34,387 --> 01:58:38,987
Speaker 10: wheels well and truly fell off the Crusaders the season

2322
01:58:39,227 --> 01:58:41,467
Speaker 10: just being and not making the finals. But it just

2323
01:58:41,667 --> 01:58:44,587
Speaker 10: hasn't clicked. And I'm not sure if that's solely on

2324
01:58:44,707 --> 01:58:47,027
Speaker 10: the way he's been used. They tried to use him

2325
01:58:47,027 --> 01:58:49,587
Speaker 10: as a battering ram. They're unable to get that go forward.

2326
01:58:50,267 --> 01:58:52,907
Speaker 10: He does tend to tire and get that fatiguing around

2327
01:58:53,107 --> 01:58:54,547
Speaker 10: the fifty minute to our mark.

2328
01:58:54,627 --> 01:58:57,147
Speaker 2: So for whatever reason, it just hasn't clicked for Levi.

2329
01:58:57,347 --> 01:58:59,627
Speaker 10: Now he's got a new role, maybe he can recreate

2330
01:58:59,707 --> 01:59:02,387
Speaker 10: himself as a knowing that all you know, if there's

2331
01:59:02,387 --> 01:59:04,507
Speaker 10: no injuries in the midfield, he comes on with twenty

2332
01:59:04,547 --> 01:59:06,787
Speaker 10: to go, you know, a full tank, and he can

2333
01:59:06,907 --> 01:59:08,987
Speaker 10: just go full steam ahead. I personally hope. So I

2334
01:59:09,147 --> 01:59:11,227
Speaker 10: like what level can do. We've seen it for Tasman,

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Speaker 10: seen it from Oner Pacific and there's a very good

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Speaker 10: rugby player there. But it's just about unlocking that in

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Speaker 10: a Crusader's jumper, because if it doesn't happen, there's certainly

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Speaker 10: a scenario Pinety that he doesn't make it twenty three

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Speaker 10: going forward with McLeod potentially a backup option because they're

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Speaker 10: not going to demote their captain and David Harville, who's

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Speaker 10: occupying the twelve jumper.

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Speaker 3: How are Crusaders fans feeling at the moment, A nervous,

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01:59:37,707 --> 01:59:38,827
Speaker 3: a little bit apprehensive.

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Speaker 2: I think there is the general theme in and around

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Speaker 2: these parts.

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Speaker 10: I think they ought to be encouraged because of the

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Speaker 10: players that they have at their disposal at this point

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Speaker 10: of the year compared to this time last year. You know,

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Speaker 10: talking about Cody Taylor who took that non playing sabbatic,

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01:59:55,507 --> 01:59:57,867
Speaker 10: or he's back. They've got will Jordan, you know, who

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01:59:58,027 --> 02:00:02,387
Speaker 10: is world class from the jump at fullback. But there

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Speaker 10: is question mark still there, particularly around first five. And

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Speaker 10: also you know Noah Host them going down as a

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02:00:09,387 --> 02:00:12,227
Speaker 10: loss at half back. Yep, they've picked up Kyle Preston

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Speaker 10: and he's you know, hat trick on debut is nothing

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Speaker 10: to be sneezed at, but he's still an unknown commodity

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Speaker 10: at super rugby level. But look, I think, you know,

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Speaker 10: particularly the format of this competition, six teams making the

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02:00:25,547 --> 02:00:29,507
Speaker 10: finals from the eleven they ought to be there at

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02:00:29,547 --> 02:00:31,907
Speaker 10: the business end, there is a lot of all black power.

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Speaker 10: You know, you just look up front to Mighty Williams,

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Speaker 10: Cody Taylor, Fletcher Newell. It's all black front row, Scott

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Speaker 10: Barrett in the second row, Blackadder, Grace Leo Willie and

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Speaker 10: the loose Ford trio. And this team has to be

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Speaker 10: making finals for anything else as a failure. So look,

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Speaker 10: I think there's there's nervousness, but it's these games here,

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Speaker 10: particularly at home and against Ossie opposition one of the

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Speaker 10: other stats that really jumped out to me two point

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Speaker 10: into the preparation for this game, the Crusaders have lost

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Speaker 10: five of their last six games against Australian teams and

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Speaker 10: the record prior to that was something like that one

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Speaker 10: third five of the previous thirty seven through the race regime.

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Speaker 10: So they got to these are the wins they've got

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Speaker 10: to bag. That's not been dismissive of the Aussie teams.

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Speaker 10: They're certainly better this year, but at home in particular,

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Speaker 10: they need to beat the Reds and just restore a

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Speaker 10: bit of faith that this is a Crusaders team that

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Speaker 10: can compete in super apriate.

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Speaker 3: Al Right, it's ten to three. I know you want

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02:01:25,547 --> 02:01:26,627
Speaker 3: to jump off because you want to get on the

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Speaker 3: live stream and watch the men's fifteen hundred meter final

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Speaker 3: from Dunedin with the two SAMs Tanner and Ruth before

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Speaker 3: you go. Can Sam Ruth get on the ponim here

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Speaker 3: he can come?

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Speaker 10: He yeah, for me, he should finish second and just

2386
02:01:40,347 --> 02:01:42,067
Speaker 10: just keep an eye on the time. Two three point

2387
02:01:42,067 --> 02:01:45,107
Speaker 10: forty one at the Sir Graham Douglas International. That was

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02:01:45,187 --> 02:01:49,747
Speaker 10: a world lead for any fifteen year old ever. That

2389
02:01:50,387 --> 02:01:53,267
Speaker 10: record was previously old by yak of Ingebritson, who's gone

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02:01:53,307 --> 02:01:56,507
Speaker 10: on to be an Olympic champion. This kid, you know,

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Speaker 10: I hate to get too excited. He's fifteen years of age.

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02:01:59,507 --> 02:02:03,027
Speaker 10: What is that form five? But he is something special

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Speaker 10: and yeah, just just enjoy you do if you have time,

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02:02:06,027 --> 02:02:09,107
Speaker 10: get on that Athletics live stream right now and enjoy

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02:02:09,147 --> 02:02:09,907
Speaker 10: the fifteen hundred.

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Speaker 2: Sam Tanna should win it.

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Speaker 10: But Sam Ruth and those Wacato BeO plenty colors as

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02:02:13,707 --> 02:02:16,107
Speaker 10: well as a talent we're going to be talking about

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Speaker 10: for the best part of a decatter at least.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you turning people away from my radio show.

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Speaker 3: Next thanks mate, it's Chalking of gouality, tasking pity Joe mate,

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Speaker 3: great work mate, call well this afternoon and thanks for

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Speaker 3: joining us in the middle of a very busy weekend

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you. It's always a pleasure to jump on.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Piney you go well you too, mate, Nick Dearly our

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Speaker 3: man in Christy are fresh from his time in duned

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Speaker 3: and covering the National Track and Field Champs and now

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Speaker 3: about to get on the mic as part of our

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Speaker 3: coverage of Super Rugby Pacific. You can Handnick in the

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02:02:48,827 --> 02:02:51,467
Speaker 3: team on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. When the Crusaders kick

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Speaker 3: off against the Reds at three point thirty five, eight

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Speaker 3: away from three News, talks in me.

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Speaker 1: From the track fields and hand the courts on your

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Speaker 1: home of Sport. Weekend Sport with Jason vine Us talks

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Speaker 1: INB five to three. Hey, that is us on Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport for today and for another weekend. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Tim Beveridge is with you after three o'clock with the

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Speaker 3: Weekend Collective Sunday Edition. Massive thanks to any McDonald for

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Speaker 3: producing the shows. Always enjoy the rest of your afternoon, mate,

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Speaker 3: And as far as an exit song is concerned, well,

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking about the black Caps and India in

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Speaker 3: tonight's champions Trophy and the pivotal role that rich and

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Speaker 3: Ravendra might play in this game. Rech And Ravendral was

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Speaker 3: born in November nineteen ninety nine. When he entered the world,

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Speaker 3: this was the number one song in New Zealand. It's

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Speaker 3: a tenuous link, I know, but it's what I've chosen,

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Speaker 3: taking us out lou Baga and Mamba number five. You

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Speaker 3: enjoyed the rest of your Sunday. Come on the black Caps.

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Speaker 3: We'll see him right on Sports Talk.

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Speaker 4: A little better, reeders all, I need a little better

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Speaker 4: Tina's what I see.

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Speaker 2: A little beta.

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Speaker 1: Sandra, then in the.

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Speaker 23: Sun, and then a better.

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Speaker 3: Married on Night Long an Jess rutting there right now.

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Speaker 2: Better you makes me your man.

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Speaker 3: Mo and the Vata bird like you. You can't run,

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Speaker 3: you can't hide, you and me gone.

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Speaker 2: Such this guy.

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Speaker 3: Mumbo number fact.

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