1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Either due for see Allen, you're the weird one for you. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: So it's been revealed that police busted at some stage 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: eleven Vietnamese immigrants who are growing pot and rented homes 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: in Auckland and quite a lot of marijuana by the way, 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: it was about eighteen million dollars worth. But instead of 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: chucking these guys through the courts like we're doing to 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: the Tarmaqueyes, they just popped them on a plane back 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: to Vietnam, said Tatar Police minister Mark Mitchell. Is with 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: us now on this, Hey match. 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Hi here, how are you? 11 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm well, thank you? Why didn't we put them in 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the lanner? 13 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Well? I think that, yes, they were part of a 14 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: cannabis operation, but I don't think the police felt like 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: they were sort of the head of the operation at all. 16 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: And the fact of the matter as they were here 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: illegally and so that obviously between police and immigration, they 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: felt the best thing was to do, and they have discretion, 19 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: was to send them straight back to Vietnam, which I 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: fully support Ashley. 21 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: But isn't the problem here that it's going to encourage 22 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: others to just do the same thing. 23 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think that. I think 24 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: it sends a pretty clear message that we're not going 25 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: to tolerate people coming here living here illegally. We're not 26 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: going to be taxpawers, are not going to fund them 27 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: or support them, and we'll send them straight back to 28 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: the country they've come from. 29 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: But Mitch, I mean, if I was sitting over there 30 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: and if this was my line of business, I think, geeaids, 31 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: that's a pretty sweet deal right there. I can go 32 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: over to New zealand grow some pot, make heaps of money, 33 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: and then the worst thing that's possibly going to happen 34 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: to me is that they send me home. That's not 35 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: that bad. 36 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think to put some context around and again 37 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: I can't talk too much into it because it's an 38 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: ongoing investigation. And I don't think that these guys. These 39 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: guys were what's called foot soldiers. They went the ones 40 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: at the head of it got the police have got 41 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: an on well. I don't know, because often they used 42 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: as slave labor some of these people as well. But 43 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: the reality is this is that they they are illegal 44 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: here illegally. They were going to be a big cost 45 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: to the text power. The police and immigration work together. 46 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: They have discretion around this, they felt that the best 47 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: thing to do for us as a country has put 48 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: them on a plane straight back to Vietnam. And I'm sure, 49 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure that they will be in contact 50 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: with the officials there to let them know why they're 51 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: being returned in the circumstances. 52 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Is this a one off specific to these guys rather 53 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: than a new blanket policy, which is if you're not 54 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: from here and we catch you doing something like us, 55 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: we'd send you home. 56 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: No, it's not. Every situation is different, and police retain 57 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: the discretion in terms of how they deal with it. 58 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, cannabis is a legal in this country. 59 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: It's the police's job to enforce the law. But police 60 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 2: will exercise discretion as to whether or not to prosecute. 61 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Listen, what is the story with this three year old 62 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: caught up in the gang raids in the portoquy? Was 63 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: this three year old unattended for ours? 64 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: Look, I don't know. I've only just heard about that 65 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: myself today, but I can tell you that I was 66 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: over at Potokey just a few days ago meeting with 67 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: the EUE, and there was a couple of anecdotal stories 68 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: that were floating around that related to children that were 69 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: proved not to be accurate. My own experience is that 70 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: the police are outstanding. They specially sense of around dealing 71 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: with kids. A lot of police officers are parents themselves, 72 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: and the police have done an outstanding job with the 73 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: work they've done over on the East Coast. The people 74 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: of a Podoque, the community, you feel like they've got 75 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: some breathing space now in a chance to reset it. 76 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: I'm very proud of the work that has been done. 77 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of a motive language and accusations 78 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: made out there, none of it verified and certainly the 79 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: meeting that I had with the EWE and a Podokey 80 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: was very positive. 81 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so if you don't know, do you 82 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: genuinely not know anything about this? Cops haven't told you anything? 83 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: Well, yes, So the information I have from the police 84 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: is that no, there's no no three year olds left 85 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: in the that have to come forward with the details 86 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: on it. Because the information that I have, the cops. 87 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Are disputing this. They say no three year old was 88 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: caught up in this. 89 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Well, yes, there's no evidence, is no one of the 90 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: examples that was given to me when I was when 91 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: I met with the EWI is that there were three 92 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: children that were left in a school that turned out 93 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: that was not and both parents are arrested. It turns 94 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: out that that was not the case at all. So 95 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: these cases are sort of brought forward the very emotive 96 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: and my experience, like I said to you, a lot 97 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: of the police officers out doing this work and doing 98 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: outstanding appearents themselves and they'll make sure that they look 99 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: after and care for children. So I just think that 100 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: it's it's very emotive. If someone can come through, come 101 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: forward with clear evidence that this has happened, then of 102 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: course it needs to be looked at next and taken 103 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: But to this point, no one has come forward with 104 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: any clear evidence of anything in terms of the police 105 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: other than the have done an outstanding job. 106 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: Mitch, Thank you, appreciate you having a chat to us. 107 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Abotter is Mike Mitchell, the Police Minister. 108 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 109 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: news talks. They'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 110 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.