1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: A few years ago, Matt Heath decided to take a 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: deep dive into Wyers that no matter how good things 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: get in life, we still find ways to feel dissatisfied. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: The result is a book, A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: to Love the Life You've Got. Karen Read describes it 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: as an hilarious way to articulate an important message. Urschel 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Carlson calls it a book is inspiring as the man 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: who wrote it, and annoyingly, I also have to admit 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was excellent. Matt Heath's A Lifeless Punishing 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've Got is available 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: in all good bookstores or simply Google in order. 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Now it's the fifteenth to the seventh twenty twenty four. 13 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about changing the name of this podcast. I 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: was thinking when I was when I was on a 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: e bike riding around the vineyards in central Targo, bloody 16 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: good time. You know you don't think about going to 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: the vineyards in the icy weather, but it's actually so spectacular. 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: I saw a whore excuse me, frost, oh, absolutely beautiful 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: going around tasting the reds. And as I was running around, 20 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: I's like this, do you know, this podcast should be cool. 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: What I actually saw a place called bespoke. I saw 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: two places called bespoke when I was riding around. I 23 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: was like, who could be called wore bespoke? Worse bespoke? 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: Wort could be that? It should you know, it should 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 2: be called the Casual Chat. 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Oh, the casual Chat. 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: The casual Chat. Oh yeah, yeah, well, oh that's quite good, 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: the casual Chat, because then it's like, can be anything. 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: The other podcast, The Highlights, is a highly disciplined information 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: inseminating machine. Yeah, this is the casual Chant. 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: I like the way that we're always looking for the 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: answer when it comes to what to call this. 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: Well, it was called the intro for a long time, 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: and then that got really confused. The answer, Yeah they 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: got there was confusing people like the intro to what? 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: And then that's left because the because we were doing 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: the intro, then the big show started doing the outro, 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: and then they've got this outro that's hanging off the 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: back of the end. That's that's the fold of our intro. 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Because of course people know the story. The podcast was 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: one long podcast with us doing an intro to it, 42 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: and then g Lane said we're cutting it in half. 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: He chopped in half and then it was left like 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: a hanging chat. But what do you reckon the casual chat? 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: Things go really well if you've got a cut. 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, casual chat, casual chat and. 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: The kettle chat. Yeah, I see what you mean. I'd 48 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: like to hear people's thoughts and people going to say, 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: I can see like meshesn't here. But he'll be rolling 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: in his grave thinking about this because you know, like 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: we've done a lot of time. As he did made 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: him sound like he's dead. He might be dead after that. 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: The yeah, that's fair. But casual chat. 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like good things do start with like Kodak 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: for example, Codek. 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: Well, the guy called it Kodak because he did a 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: big invest Codek's not a word for anything. He did 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: this massive investigation into what successful companies were and it 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: was a. 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: It was a cannon. 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Two things work really well. Red and yellow as colors 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: and a c they work really well. I mean you 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: might say McDonald's is red and yellow and doesn't have 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: a cut. Yeah. 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: They had the forward car for a while. Did you 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: have a drive a forward car a full car? Yeah, 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: as a car, the ka, the forward car, the Ford cut. 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: That was a It was a and. 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: This cut chairs. 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: Cut cheers, the Gary Gary in the corner very popular. 71 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: You can get a cut cheer, Yeah, they're very very popular. 72 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: The cut chair. 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: She had just sold a cut chair on trade meet yesterday. 74 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: What kind of cheer was it? It was a winged 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: arm chair. 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: I need a fucking wing arm chair. Are you joking? 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: I fucking need it because I'm moving a couch upstairs. 78 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: I need I am in the business. I'm looking around 79 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: for a fucking wing arm chair. 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: This was a family yelo from the Finel collection because my. 81 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Great my great grandfather. 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, my great grandfather owned a furniture business and they 83 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: used to make furniture and and this was one of the. 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: As a result. 85 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, they've got lots of furniture in our family 86 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: from from that. And this was a piece that haven't 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: told my parents that I've sold. 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: I needed to get rid of it. 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would have given it to you, But 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were in the in the in 91 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: the market for a winged arm chair. That's a really 92 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: good aren't you. I need a wing arm you for 93 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: Daddy's Dean. It would have been perfect for Daddy's den. 94 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: It was an. 95 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: It's a light champagne blush for the lure. 96 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh, it's like a kind of a was that the 97 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: one that was Was that the one that was in 98 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: your library? 99 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I was imagining the one that's in your library 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: for my den. 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: It's exactly the one that was in the We're nearly in. 102 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: A simulation, but the simulation was out of Saint because 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: I was on holiday for a week. 104 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: Ah. It's the Murray John. It's named after It's named 105 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: after my dad when when the grand when his grandkids 106 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: were born, he named started naming furniture after It's the 107 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: Murray John. Ah, but I just didn't have a room 108 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: in the house. This is It was thirty seven dollars 109 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: to it sold for thirty seven dollars question. Yeah, I 110 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: would have paid thirty seven hundred dollars. No, I would 111 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: have given it to you if I knew that you've 112 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: got anything else? 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: Yep, what do you got? 114 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: We've got another We've got some other other fanal cheers 115 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: an arm chair wingdam I've got another wing damn cheer 116 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: do yeah, yeah, kicking that one because you can't have 117 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: two ones ones A little. The Murry John was quite 118 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: a lot bigger, than that, than the diner quite a 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: big one. The denim is that the denim is the 120 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: one that's named after Ethan the Groot's grandfather. So that's 121 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: he's that's the relationship on that side. So that's why 122 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: he's my second I think he's my second person. 123 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: God damn it. Yeah, I need a fucking winged arm chair. Rudy, 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: you were going to say when I call. 125 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: Them up and trade me and tell them that something 126 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: happened to it, say that your dog's had on it 127 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: and in the end I'll get like it'll take Should 128 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: I call them up and say do you actually want 129 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: Maybe I could say that I'll buy it off them. 130 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: Well maybe it was thirty seven bucks, I buy it back, 131 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: trade me. Can you see they might not come around? 132 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: Can you see me a picture of it? Why don't 133 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: you get you you might get some bad feedback if 134 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: you did that. You never know. 135 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't really care about my feedback, to be honest, 136 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: because it's on Tossi's account. So let me just have 137 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: a like, your winged arm chair, your thirty seven bucks? 138 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Are you map. 139 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: To a big story? 140 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: So you jumped up and down in it because you're 141 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: watching the euro twenty twenty four, one of the legs broke. 142 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: Should I still want it? So? This is this? 143 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: Tozzi wrote a great little blurb for it for it 144 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: reluctant sale of this family hear loom from the Finel 145 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: Collection and. 146 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: Good working Order. 147 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: It's got to be recovered to turn into a fully 148 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: functional arm chair, snoozing chair, breastfeeding chair, or any other. 149 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Style chair, breastfeeding cheer. 150 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: Currently covered in light champagne valure, A delight to sit in. 151 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: That deserves more than thirty seven dollars. I know that breastfeeding. 152 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: I know you can't breastfeed in a family. Tozzy used 153 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: to breastfeed at it very successfully. Oh that's okay. Here 154 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: it is. 155 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: Can you pass us the picture over? You absolutely rubbing 156 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: it in Matt's face? 157 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: Right? 158 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Thirty seven knowledge. I mean that's a good bye for 159 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven bus. 160 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry, you've. 161 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Got to say that's a good buy for thirty seven bucks. 162 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: It looks like it's got to rip in the seat, 163 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: but it doesn't. I think that's why it only went 164 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: for thirty seven bucks. It was a poor photo taking 165 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: by Tossic. 166 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so much going through. She's selling my family and 167 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: it's got. There's actually quite a suspicious stay right down 168 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: a little bit. It's where it talks about being recovered. 169 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't actually it wasn't actually a cut chear, was it. 170 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: No? 171 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: The other do you want a piano store because I 172 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: sold I sold this piano store and then tells you 173 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: what dog does not come with? 174 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: See that's good piano still piano store. 175 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: The piano store went for thirty four dollars. I mean 176 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: the piano store was a piece of crap. Someone bought that. 177 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: That was also fairly. 178 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: Have you got a I really need a Chesterfield arm cheer. 179 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: You got a Chesterfield umpire? Do you want to sell um? No? 180 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: No, Unfortunately the Star Wars Millennium Falcon that we sold. 181 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: If we sold Star Wars Millennium Falcon, what we for 182 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: ten dollars fifteen? 183 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: Do you know? It's funny. It was my son's fifteenth 184 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: birthday yesterday and I took him out for dinner. And 185 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: I've been running a line that when you're fifteen, you 186 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: don't get presents anymore. You get one dollar added to 187 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: your to your your pocket money. Yeah that's good, but 188 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: you don't get a present. That's good. And then and 189 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: so I ran this line, don't get a present, don't 190 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: get a present. He was like, cool, cool, we'll take 191 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: you out for dinner, but there's no present. And then 192 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: and then he saw me at the prison. I said, 193 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: you still into Star Wars Ligua, which is not and 194 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: he was like yeah, because he wants to be a 195 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: nice guy. Ah. And then we sit down for dinner 196 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: at a fantastic restaurant on Juvois Road that sounds like 197 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: Undi's down, but it's an Italian restaurant. Anyway, I whip 198 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: he opens the prison. He's been so nice, he's so 199 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: lovely about the presence. He goes, I've got because he 200 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: got some shoes, he got a new new hoodie. He's 201 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: very happy, but I could tell in his heart he 202 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: felt like he was missing the good present. And then 203 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: and then he was just gearing himself up to be 204 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: very magnanimous about a shitty Star Wars lego see it 205 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: that you'd get when you were ten. And then I've 206 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: got n nothing. No, I'd bought him a brand new laptop, ah, 207 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: like a high powered Mac laptop with like you know, 208 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: the latest him three chap, like a souped up hair 209 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: cass laptop and God, he was happy. He was happy. 210 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: It was great. I lowered the expectations. I lowered the 211 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: fucking He's. 212 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: A nice boy, though, the way that he wouldn't have mattered. 213 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of like in a school bag, 214 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: you know, he needs it for school. It's not. Yeah. 215 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Tozzy wrote for the Millennium Falcon Plastic Millennium Falcon Giant 216 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: Iconic Star Wars Millennium Falcon five hundred and forty by 217 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: four hundred miles Hours of fun imagining Chewi, She's good. 218 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: Hours of fun imagining Chewy and Han Solo taking the 219 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Millennium Falcon and hyper drive towards the planet Tattooin. 220 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: I think she's over engineering these. Did she get that off? Ai? No, 221 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: that's very high level. 222 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: No, she asked me, so who She asked me a 223 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: few details about that? I said, well, Chilean Hans. So 224 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: I used to play that we're too well to the 225 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: planet Tatowin. 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: Hell did they go to Tatouin? Actually you would know? 227 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: Did they ever go to Tatuwin? 228 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: Chill? 229 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: We did they ever take the Millenni Falcon to Tatooin? 230 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: You mate? Okay? Yeah, hey, listen, listen to this though, 231 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: dinner with Jesse Mulligan and Matt Heath. Sit back and 232 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: watch the conversation fly. On one side, we have the 233 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: ever charming, quick wooded Jesse Mulligan, a man whose words 234 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: flow as smoothly as his favorite wine. And on the 235 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: other the irreverent, hilarious Matt Heath, the master of mischief 236 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: and the kind of guy you trust to throw the 237 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: most unforgettable party. Together, they'll blend sharp, human, insightful commentary, 238 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: book chat, and a sprinkle of chaos. Buckle up, because 239 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: when Jesse and Matt start talking, you're in for a ride, 240 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: our wonderful ride. Join us in the bistro for a 241 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: two course dinner and evening of difference with Jesse and Mat. 242 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: Numbers limited. What happened to the third course? Hey? What 243 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: happened to the third course? I don't know, but that's 244 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: at the Black Barn. But I'm a master of mister 245 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: black Barn. You mean Black Barn in Hawk's Bay. Yeah? Yeah, wow, yeah, mate, 246 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: we're just are you traveling? 247 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: You're traveling around peddling your book via some question and 248 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: answer sessions. Is that's what's going on there? 249 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, that'll be a good time. Yeah, yeah, tickets 250 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: available now. But I'm a master of mischief, which again 251 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: to TOSSI write that one as. 252 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, that one that's clearly wasn't written by you. I 253 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: can tell that. So of all the things that I 254 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: was selling, the dinner and amp, interestingly, the din and amp, 255 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: which I wanted to get rid of, went for two 256 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five dollars, made six hundred and seventy 257 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: dollars on trade last night. 258 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: It's not bad. Hey, Should we come back with part 259 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: two of the Casual Chat. We've got some special guests, 260 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: jereing me. Special guests, Jimmy, you don't know who they 261 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: are there, you don't know who've gone to? 262 00:11:59,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: What? 263 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: No idea? Up next, we've got the hosts of Did 264 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: Titanic Sink? Season two? 265 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 266 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: It did sunk? Are they just? I can see Tim 267 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: back just there. Did the Titanic sk Absolutely, it's sunk. 268 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: He's coming through. I can answer that question right away. Okay, 269 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: we'll be back in just a mind. We'll be back 270 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: and a moment with part two of the cavs ule 271 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: Chat or bespoke. Have your say on the Conclave the 272 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group whether you think we 273 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: should change it to the casual chat. Let's change it. Well, 274 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: so we're not telling me when he comes back to 275 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: it's just the casual chat. 276 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: Okay, it's the casual chatry all right, Okay, Okay, then we'll. 277 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: Be back. 278 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: Hello, and we're back and we're back. Or there's some 279 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: hugging going on. Jeremy Well's hugging and howls and Matt 280 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: Heath now hugging tim mate, we're just going to fist 281 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: each other. 282 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: That's excellent. Abbie houses coming as well. 283 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: Abbie, I'm gonna like maneuver this microphone round at you 284 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: because I don't. 285 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: Trust that one. 286 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: So how're we going to. 287 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: The unprofessional of the team, and you know it's unprofessional 288 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: as well. We're already started recording the podcast. 289 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: That since that this was all yes, and it feels live. 290 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: It's as live live. 291 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: It's like you know when they have document fancy documentaries 292 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: and they have as they're sitting up and putting the 293 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: mic on and they do the voice over it. So 294 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 2: we kind of run that kind of it's a real 295 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: look behind the curtains saying hello. 296 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 5: You know I did that. I just swapped the mics 297 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 5: over and totally blinked on your bed. I'm so sorry 298 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: because I know these mics. You've got to get in there. 299 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get it. 300 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: You do have to get in there. He's worked these 301 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: mics before, worked these mics before. 302 00:13:53,960 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: He's a seminal podcast godfather, I would, but he's a podcast. 303 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: So welcome and termin airb Thank you Jerry, And what 304 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: are you guys up to? What's happening mate? 305 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 5: We have just made a podcast. Have you heard of this? Medium? 306 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 2: Yep? Podcast podcast? 307 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: They're the hot new. 308 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: Thing right, It's like the radio but on the internet. 309 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Wow, they hanging on the radio is on the internet 310 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: as well. 311 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: Ship the check us out. We've done a second season 312 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: of a podcast called Did Titanic Sync For? Do you 313 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 5: describe Radio in New Zealand as a rival network? 314 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: Since you're quite dum, probably, I don't think anything's right. 315 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's I. 316 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: Guess it's for a rival network that I won't name radio. 317 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: You're a sworn enemy. 318 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 319 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 5: The first the first season I did with Carlo Ritchie, 320 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: who's a very smart, funny Australian commed who knows everything 321 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 5: about the Titanic. 322 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: Like, I like how you it's just going to complicate 323 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: compliment you on saying did Titanic sink? Yes, but then 324 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: you said that Titanic. Don't use that because unless a podcast, 325 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: we'll call it did that Titanic? Think? 326 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: Yes, but it's Carlo wouldn't allow that sort of thing. 327 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 5: He wouldn't allow it. 328 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: But you have allowed it. So have you allowed the article? 329 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 5: And now I'm an idiot? So I refer to it 330 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 5: as the Titanic, but Carlo refers to it exclusively as 331 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 5: the Ari. 332 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: How do you how do you refer to the Olympics? 333 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: Do you refer to them as the games of the 334 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: thirty four thirty fourth Olympiad? Would? 335 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so so it's called did Titanic Titanic Sink? 336 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: I know? Oh, sorry, you go to please. 337 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: I know that Abbie Howes is a huge fan of 338 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: Titanic and all things Titanic. 339 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: And all the deaths. Yeah, I loved it. 340 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Yes, she's very focused on the deaths. Because Abby and 341 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: I are. 342 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: We allowed to say what? 343 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: We're not allowed? 344 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm not going to say anything. 345 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: Then I know as well. Ah, are we not. 346 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Allowed to say anything? 347 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: Secret? 348 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine. I was chatting to Abby and we 349 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: got talking about and and because recently I have gone 350 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: deep on Titanic, always been interested, but. 351 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: Not like James Cameron. You didn't acually go down in 352 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: the little subby Webb, did you. No? I didn't go down. 353 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: Would you go down in the No? 354 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to go down after that other sub. 355 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: Well, you've got to use the PlayStation controller. 356 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: That's the problem, that's exactly. 357 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, they skimped on it. 358 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so tell us about the podcast. 359 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: Sorry, so so we did one season two years ago. 360 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: Carlum and I won a Comedy Award one Best Comedy 361 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 5: at the New Zealand Podcast Woods, which was confusing for 362 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: us because we thought we were making a history podcast. 363 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: And then it was all about a conspiracy theory that 364 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: the Titanic got switched with its sister ship, which got 365 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 5: struck by a naval vessel and intentionally sunk for insurance money. 366 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 5: Carlo knows all the details and he laid it out 367 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: for me episode episode. We had Abby on the final episode, 368 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 5: and Abby shocked me by being the only person I'd 369 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 5: ever met who could rival Carlo's knowledge on the Titanic. 370 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 5: And it was like watching these two beautiful minds, you know, 371 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 5: meet for the first time. So then we got some 372 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: money from a rival network to do a second season 373 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: and we had to get Ebby to direct it during 374 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 5: the season. 375 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: Wow, so you get money for your podcast? We just 376 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: do that. We just do this thing for fucking free us. 377 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: You survive of you're paid in the power of friendship. 378 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: We do it to promote people. We are only doing 379 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: it because we want to be good members of the 380 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: community and promote people like you guys doing your podcasts. 381 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: That was really altruistic. 382 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, should be that the way around, surely. 383 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, what have you got on you? I've only got cards. 384 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: Well, I've got a paid wife. But there's a one point. 385 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: Charge on that. 386 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: So just quickly, most fascinating Titanic fact, Abby. 387 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: Well, here's what I think. Well, here's one that's compelled 388 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: me recently, which we talk about on the podcast a 389 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: little bit, which is that the order for women and 390 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: children only. Well, it was interpreted two different ways. So 391 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: you've got you got the Titanic right, it's going down. 392 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: You've got ships basically on either side being lowered, one 393 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: by a officer called Murdoch, one by officer called Lightholer. 394 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: Murdoch interpreted the orders as women and children first, yes, 395 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: so like he would fill up the boats of women 396 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: and children. But if there were any men around, yeah, 397 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: he'd put them on the boat. 398 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: Good ond good on, mood off. 399 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. On the other side, Lightoler into asshole. 400 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: Into figure of history. 401 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: Asshole. Yeah, he had a gun. 402 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 5: Our whole season is about him. 403 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: So basically he interpreted that woman and children only. 404 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: So he would send down boats that were he sent 405 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: down boats they were half full, less than half full 406 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: when there were men around, and you. 407 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 2: Had husband wives going please, please please, and what about that? 408 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: The saddest story is that kid. It was his fifteenth birthday, 409 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: wasn't it? And he got his big boy pants because 410 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: he had big boy pants on, was it? Lila Lightolerler 411 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: was like, fuck you you're a man. You've got pants on? 412 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 413 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 5: How did you guys know so much about the Titana? 414 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: And everyone knows everyone everyone I've seen the movie. 415 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 5: Light Sholer interestingly is also in Dunkirk the movie because 416 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: this guy just he's like a forest gump of British historically. 417 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: V did he take out one of the little boats. 418 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: He did. 419 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 5: He took out his little personal yacht and saved a 420 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: bunch of dudes. He's an incredible figure. 421 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: So was that because he was feeling bad about interpreting 422 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: them women and children? First thing wrong, here's the beauty 423 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: of light older. 424 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: He doesn't feel bad about anything. 425 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: He loves the sea mistress. 426 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: Arguably, we've spent half an episode describing a situation where 427 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 5: there's a one of the life boats called Collapsible b 428 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: tipped upside down. He got a bunch of people on 429 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: and commandeered it and basically saved dozens of people's lives 430 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 5: by coordinating them to roll with the sea and not 431 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 5: tip it over until they got rescued. He's a crazy dude, 432 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 5: and we talked to his great nephew. Okay directly, Oh, 433 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 5: hold on, the pope. 434 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: I thought the sea conditions were completely dead, calm, flat, 435 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: no swell at all. 436 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 5: Originally they were, but then the sea got a bit 437 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 5: choppy after and also there was all these wakes being 438 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 5: created by the Titanic. 439 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: And the boat is upside down, so it's it's like 440 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: fully upside down, so they're balancing on it like you know, 441 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: this straddled the boat basically excuse me, Yeah, they made 442 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: view No, there's a story about then they made love 443 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: to whatever life. 444 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: Well, and ejaculated the actual lifeboat. 445 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 5: That what our podcast is about. 446 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: It's about the beautiful boat. Baby. 447 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: It does raise a question, though it doesn't it so 448 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: if you know you're definitely going to die, because there's 449 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: some couples that just gave up and went into their 450 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: bed rooms, right, and people are saying, well, at the 451 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: end of the world, women might as well make love, 452 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: you know, like with this asteroids coming to all their 453 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: let's shall we make love? I don't know. I don't. 454 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't think I'll be into it. 455 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 5: Because you want to think you would do it, but 456 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: I reckon i'd. 457 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: Be I don't get turned on by dying, you know, 458 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: so I reckon at the end, I'd be like actually, 459 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: like so you're with your message and she's like, shall 460 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: we were about to die? I don't think I can 461 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: perform under these and children aside. 462 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: You would have pushed women and children away to get 463 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: into the lifeboat. 464 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: You would have produced your own arm. What are you 465 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: and I'm going to make love in the lifeboat? I 466 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: don't know when the kids are. 467 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it's not easy to make love. On 468 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: the other thing is because the ship went up so 469 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: much before it went down, which was kind. 470 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: Of sexual in a way. 471 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: The way that actually entered the border was a little 472 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: bit like anyway. 473 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 3: That's our experienced it. He went up, but then when 474 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: everything was. 475 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: Because you couldn't have been in your bed because you 476 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: would have slid slidden off. 477 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: How to get off the boat? 478 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 5: That's another incredible story. 479 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: So forget about who he was making love to. 480 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: He got sucked down by the force of this huge vessel, 481 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 5: the largest man made object. 482 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, yes, so he did go down with the ship. 483 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: He did not get on life. 484 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: Sucked down, But did he jump off at any point? 485 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 5: In fact, there's a quote from him which we reference 486 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 5: in the podcast. I didn't leave Titanic. Titanic left me. 487 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: So he got sucked the ego, hasn't he? 488 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 5: And then something I think exploded in the water, maybe 489 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: one of the boilers with something that produced an air 490 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 5: bubble which shot him back up. Well, because God decided 491 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: it was not his time. 492 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: I always wonder yesterday, Yes God God, And he's he 493 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: makes fucking decisions and key moments, doesn't People lied? He's 494 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: a real club. It happened to them in the Titanic. 495 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Oh the season. 496 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: You need to listen to this new season Titanic, saying, 497 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 5: because this is what it's all about. 498 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: Because that's the thing. But who lies and who things 499 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: change me? You've got adaptive memory disorder that we all 500 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: suffer from. I mean, how many times have you told 501 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: a story like I was telling a story about something 502 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: that happened to me and my friends, telling over and 503 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: over again, and then I saw a picture of it 504 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: and realized I was never there. 505 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 5: But the t shirt ken an incident might have never happened, 506 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: but you and I have just told it so many 507 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 5: times that we've just weld it. 508 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: Happened. But talking about a time when I shot him 509 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: and the you know timbat used to used to be 510 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: the me. Me and him used to do a drive 511 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: show on Hidaky many years ago. But I think there 512 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: was a part of it that I have changed on 513 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: purpose to try and make myself look better. The idea 514 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: that because we did a trial and decided not to 515 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: do it, and then we went ahead later and did 516 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: it anyway. And I've always tried to push the line 517 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: I had to do it because it was on your rundown, 518 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: because you did the rundown. And look, the truth is, 519 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: and I'm willing to admit that Now we did it 520 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: because we were drunk, not because it was on the rundown. 521 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I did it, I think because I 522 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 5: was drunk, consually drunk, but. 523 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: To make it sound professional like, because we always followed 524 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: the rundown for our radio show religiously. That's why I 525 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 2: shot you in the nick and killed you with a 526 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: T shirt. 527 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 5: We were on our first out of town trip for 528 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 5: the radio show and we were hanged hanging out with 529 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: the Canadian Yeah, and someone gave us T shirt catered 530 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: they were having a time. But yeah, light a great guy. 531 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he amazing that he that he went down 532 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: with the ship and then he got got back up again. 533 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: And saved a bunch of people after that by, as 534 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 5: I say, taking command of. 535 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: The bit I find the most terrifying about the Titanic, 536 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: and actually probably the second bit, but everyone that was 537 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: in the life boats had to make the decision to 538 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: not go back to pick people up. 539 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: Yes, because Samped and light on it talks about this 540 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 5: and the investigations that were subsequent. You could hear everything. 541 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: You could hear people's thing so quiet and still you 542 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 5: just hear everyone dying. 543 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say the worst thing 544 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: about it was the people in the lifeboats had to 545 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: make small talk. 546 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: So what are you you know, like you're married. Yeah, 547 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: the fucker got left on the boat because like Toler 548 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't let him on. 549 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: He he's got a great story of character from the Titanic. 550 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 5: Who was your favorite person when we asked you to 551 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 5: see some one? 552 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, oh yeah, my favorite. But I think the 553 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: most I think the most relatable person on the Titanic 554 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: is the baker. His name's like Charles Golgan. I think Golgan. 555 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: I think I'm pronouncing it wrong, but he's the baker. 556 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: His instinct was like, Titanic is going down, I'm gonna 557 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: get drunk. So he drank I think a whole bottle 558 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: of whiskey. And then people saw him just throwing dick 559 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: chairs off the Titanic case. I think he thought it 560 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: might help. 561 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: He's like, oh arranging. 562 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was throwing them in the water, and he's like, 563 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm a hero for this. He's the last person to 564 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: get off the Titanic, and he says he wrote it 565 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: down like an elevator, so he managed to get on 566 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: the top of the tip. Yeah, he got on the 567 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: turb He wrote it all the way down, he said, 568 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 3: didn't even get my hair with He's in the water 569 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: swimming around, still so drunk that he's like, it wasn't 570 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: even cold to me. He just kind of swings. I 571 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 3: think he swims around for about two hours and then 572 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: he gets picked up by a light boat and survives. 573 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet our fucking government won't let us drunk drive. Wow, 574 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: but it was smart. That was smart. That was clever. 575 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 576 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: What about the fact that people said that the people 577 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: who were down in steerage down the down the bottom, 578 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: that that they that people didn't care about them, and 579 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: that they had the doors locked and they were allowed 580 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: up and all that sort of stuff. It turns out 581 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: that that's a myth. 582 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: That's not true. They didn't lock the doors. 583 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: No, No, that was that was for immigration reasons. 584 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: They were immigration doors, so you couldn't because they had 585 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: a problems. If you were in third class and a 586 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: woman or a child, you had better chance of surviving 587 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: than a man in first class. 588 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's right, that was That's interesting because the 589 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: women and children thing was a bloody interesting thing back 590 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: in those days, and it makes sense to me. I've 591 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: thought about this about evolution and it does make sense 592 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: because historically women and children have always been you know, 593 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: men will die for women and children. 594 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: That's the way it was. 595 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because you can continue 596 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: on as a species with women and children. You can 597 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: lose a lot of men, and you're okay. If you 598 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: lose a whole lot of your women, you're in trouble 599 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: because you've got nobody to have babies. 600 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: Men can be involved in a lot more pregnancies. That's right, 601 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: needy one man to survive. Take on this, which is 602 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: where it comes to the square. 603 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 3: Well, I think actually the women and children's first thing 604 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: had to be implemented because in previous like ships going 605 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: down and stuff, women and children slaughtered. Really yeah, yeah, 606 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: that they are a lot more men would survive. 607 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: Really yeah. 608 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: They had to be like, can we give to children 609 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: on the boat? 610 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: So they just had more honor on the Titanic, Is 611 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: that what you're saying? 612 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like the realiest one part of it. 613 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: The first one was a British ship was the first one. 614 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: There's a moment that's famous for saying women and children first. 615 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: Can't remember the name of this ship. And it was 616 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: a concept and they put it down and then England 617 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: made it a really big part of being a hero 618 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: was woman and children first. 619 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 5: And it wasn't that far before. 620 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: I was eighteen ninety or something, so it hadn't been 621 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: going that long. 622 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: But they're having a good time, by the way, and 623 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Steerage was to say it was that that was. 624 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: Where the party was. 625 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: There was fiddles out idea that the people up the 626 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: top were having the time and the people down in 627 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: the bottom with pieces of crap rubbish. The people down 628 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: the bottom were having a bloody Apparently that was where 629 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: the parties. 630 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: Were in the movie. That's Jim Cameron puts that in, 631 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: doesn't it They're all dancing and having a great time. 632 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: I was on it. I was on a ship once 633 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: and I was working as a roadie for the band 634 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: on the ship. It was a cruise ship was the band. 635 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: The band was called element O Oh Sick And they 636 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: were playing on a cruise ship for for an and 637 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: and then and and I got a free go on 638 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: this cruise ship. I fucked up on the bat on 639 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: the first day. I got drunk and cut all Laney's 640 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: based strings off. Anyway, that sounds like a side story, yes, 641 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: side story, but anyway, because I was considered start, I 642 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: was considered staff and not a passenger. I was invited 643 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: to I could go down to the bar that they 644 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: had in the decks down below deck and they had 645 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: this kick ass bar. It's all rusty metal, bulkheads everything, 646 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: and they had a Metallica covers band. Everyone down there 647 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: was a Filipino Filipino Metallica covers band. The Heinekens were 648 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: fifty cents each, and there was just a huge Titanic 649 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: like part party down under the That was the real party. 650 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: That was the real party. And then you go up 651 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: and it's so punishing upstairs. Everyone's on a zimmer frame, 652 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: this fucking horrific horrible bars, you know. And then but downstairs, 653 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: so it rings true, it rangs true that below the 654 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: surfaces were the good part. The good parties are. So 655 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: if you find yourself threw dick cheers off and a 656 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: rubbish band off. 657 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 5: Where you was you doing it in aid of the boat. 658 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 5: We're trying to save life. 659 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: I found this window between this gap between c C 660 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: t V cameras and me and a mate who I 661 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: won't say, Dave Gibson, we thought we could let's throw 662 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: some stuff off I was a terrible person back there. 663 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: I feel bad for what I did to the environment. 664 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 5: Wait, how did you cut Laney's bass strings? Because that 665 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 5: feels like you would have to do that intentionally. 666 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: He tried to restring it. Know what happened was I 667 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: cut them off to quickly restring, but then realized I've 668 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: forgotten the replacement based strings absolute helmets. I went, I 669 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: went pump. I was like, cool, nice fresh based strings. 670 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be the best rodeo can be. 671 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to get ahead of the game when when 672 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: she opens her bass, it's going to have fresh strings 673 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: used the Metallica covers band. I had to go, and 674 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: I had to go and borrow based strings off a 675 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: cocktail type band that was playing on one of the decks. 676 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: When I say borrow, motherfucker charged me two on the 677 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: bucks for the strings playing demand. Dude, that was he 678 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: was the only oneyor of bass strings and ended up 679 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: going overboard with the Dick. 680 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: Chears International waters. There's different rules. 681 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: Wow, I'll tell you what. 682 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 5: No trade commission out there. 683 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: He didn't make it to port. 684 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: Let's just say that, okay, over in a rubbishment, you 685 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: guys tell us how we can listen to the pod. 686 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: Let's better not be on a rival network. 687 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 5: The Titanic thinkers on the Internet and there's no rivalries 688 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 5: on there. Famously, everyone gets along really well. 689 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: It's a place of dequorum and respect, isn't that? 690 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: So? Would you say listen to season one first and 691 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: then season two or just get straight into season two? 692 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 5: You can skip season one if you want. But it's 693 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 5: a great listen at one, best comedy podcast. 694 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: Of the year. So ill love season one? 695 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 5: What yeah, twenty twenty two. 696 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: It's got resent. It's not like one of those fish 697 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: and chip shops at Metro seven exactly. 698 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 5: But this, this new season is fantastic. We do legit 699 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 5: investigative journalism. We chat to a relative of light Holer. Yeah, 700 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: he lives in New Zealand. He's got a bunch of 701 00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 5: family in New Zealand. 702 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: Light On it does, jeez, tell Us is one of 703 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: those investigations. It's just kids. It's also as you take 704 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: the rings off, the off the onion. 705 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, term's kind of a journalist. You might say. 706 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 5: We were supposed to be investigating the Canterbury Care as well. 707 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: I should have mentioned there, but Aarondy gave us the 708 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 5: money to investigate the Canterbury Care and we told them 709 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 5: we were going to do that. 710 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: The terms kind of a journalist you could almost say 711 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: as a great compliment terms almost. 712 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: Journalist's kind of a journalist. 713 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Kind of a journalist a little bit. Yeah, you just 714 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: need to get like a cheese cutter and a paper. 715 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: That's right. I've got a question for you guys before 716 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: you go like there's been. This podcast is currently called 717 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: the Daily Bespoke, one of the best podcasts that the 718 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: New Zealand Podcast Radio Podcast Awards. I should have Well 719 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about that kind of thing. But it's currently 720 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: called the Daily Bespoke Cast, and I'm thinking about changing 721 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: it to the Casual Chat. What do you think? 722 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 5: No, what the current name the current names have been 723 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 5: a name for it. 724 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: The Daily Bespoke, but it's but we've just had a 725 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: casual chat. 726 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 5: But you've got to you've got to sell people on 727 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 5: the sizzle, not the steak. Be Spoke speaks to a 728 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 5: level of quality and intention and uniqueness that would entice 729 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 5: a listener the casual chat. This is why why am 730 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 5: I spend my time tuning into this? It's Matt Jerry obviously, 731 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 5: but we. 732 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: Need to give them further spoke. 733 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: The reason we called it that because it does sound tailored. 734 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: It sounds premium, it sounds special, but it's not premium. 735 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: It's an absolute piece of it's mostly terrible sexual stuff. 736 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: I feel like our chat hasn't been casual. We've covered 737 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 3: the massacre of many people. That's not casual. It's not casual, 738 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: you know, it's hold on you know? Could you have 739 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: seen says the boat is going down? 740 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 2: My experience of hanging out with you, it is casual. 741 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: People comes up. 742 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, a more casual than. 743 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, what I have learned in my life. Not casual 744 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: for everyone else to get complaints. 745 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 5: Every house is bespoken. 746 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So how about this the formal chat that doesn't the. 747 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 5: Same territory you're upstairs. 748 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: We'll just got it the formal, you know, because that 749 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: reminds me of like a seventh form dark form formal. Okay, 750 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: form formal conversations. You've been listening to Matt and Jerry's 751 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: seventh form formal how to Get Drunk? 752 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: Just I fel like I feel like you guys should 753 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 5: pick up the spiritual torch for this. This is real 754 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 5: quick and it's related to nothing we've cheated about. But 755 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 5: Richard Simmons died the day Trump got shot in the air, 756 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 5: and I feel like it's going to get buried. And 757 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 5: I feel like you two to kind of celebrate his life, like. 758 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: He faked his death and then shot Trump. 759 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 5: The ultimate about Trump, and. 760 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 3: He's quick, you know, Simmons on his feet, a hero 761 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 3: has passed. 762 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because Trump didn't even die and Shennon doherity. 763 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: She's fucking known she died and no one's going to He. 764 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: Was famously not the nicest person in the world. 765 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: She actually got kicked off charm for Charmed for being 766 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 2: an arsehole. 767 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 5: Getting kicked off that's a high watermark. But Richard Simmons 768 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 5: a saint among us. 769 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: So it was on that in New Zealand video. So 770 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how old did he live to that's not 771 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: very old for all that exercise, how long? It's not 772 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: a very good ad for exercise. 773 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: I've taken away from this. Actually don't exercise. 774 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: You know. I feel bad for hassling how thin as 775 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: he was during that bloody in New Zealand had about 776 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: ten years ago, because he was sixty six at the time. 777 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: You can't blame a bloody dude for losing. But here 778 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: at sixty sex, can you he. 779 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 5: Had the money there to get plugs if you want 780 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 5: to get Richard Simmons. 781 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 3: He didn't. 782 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 5: He didn't care, He didn't want to sort it out. 783 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 5: He was there for us, in there for him. 784 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: For a guy did that much exercise, he didn't have 785 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,479 Speaker 1: a very athletic body. 786 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: He was just kind of he was. 787 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: He was skinned, my skinny fare wasn't he time looked 788 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: like me? 789 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 2: He was. 790 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 3: He had a real bouncin about him. 791 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: He was. 792 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: He wasn't a tin pump I was. He was more 793 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: sort of a light aerobics guy. He was soft robots yea, 794 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: with lots of sexual inn windows. 795 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 5: I going to the wrong guys. I thought you guys 796 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 5: would be the big. 797 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: Were a bit older than you. 798 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: So Richard Simmons he learned quite large over my childhood 799 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: and the Richard Simmons Show used to be on on 800 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: on in the mornings at ten thirty on the morning 801 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: and TV two or TV one when I was going 802 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: up and always got in the way of fucking play school. 803 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it was really annoying because it was 804 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: like rich play school, because play School's on the Quarter 805 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: Past and Lives. Also he got wiped out by aerobics 806 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: old style. Absolutely, oh, wipe the floor. Aerobics are style 807 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: wiped the floor with as soon as Ostle came out, 808 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: Holy crap. Was waiting for play school? You're happy to wait? Yeah, 809 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: you'd wait a little bit longerf in. 810 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 3: The era, you know. 811 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 5: And without him, we wouldn't Who was the New Zealand? 812 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: When? 813 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 5: Who was on the first episode of Shorty Street, Like, 814 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 5: we wouldn't have Susiaken if we didn't have trailblazers like 815 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 5: Richard Simmons. 816 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: R O P. 817 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: She was fitnessac wasn't she? 818 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 5: I forgot about that it was originally the New Zealand. 819 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: I forgot who was the wounded and the one piece 820 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: and the one piece short arm shortly jumpsuit with the 821 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: big patch on the should that used to be in Hawaii. 822 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 3: Who was the America Jane Fonder? 823 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: Not Jane Fonder, but same era. He was a wounder. 824 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: It wasn't Richard Simmons anyway before my time potentially, but 825 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: interesting point. 826 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 5: Interesting point I've come to you was the request. 827 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: You'll find that there were casual chat about that tomorrow 828 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: on radio Hicky between six and nine on the Matt 829 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: and Jewy Show. 830 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: All right, and that's the schedule. 831 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: Chat. 832 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: No, it's not Daily Spoke Dake, Yeah, hasn't she? 833 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: All right? Okay, you buddy seem busy? Well are you go? Okay, 834 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: then thanks for coming in, guys, thanks for having us. Okay, 835 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 2: all right, you seem a bit sort of accusatory. All right, okay, 836 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: okay then all right, okay, okay, alright, hey bye, Hello, 837 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening to the Matt 838 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 2: and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. Right now you can listen 839 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 2: to our Radio Highlights podcast, which you will absolutely get 840 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: barred up about anyway, sit to download, like, subscribe, right, 841 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: review all those great things. 842 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 5: It really helps myself. 843 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: And Jerry and to a lesser extent, mess and ruder. 844 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: If you want to discuss anything raised in this pod, 845 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: check out the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group. 846 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: And while I'm plugging stuff, my book, A Lifeless Punishing 847 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 2: Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've Got is out 848 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: now get it wherever you get your book, or just 849 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: google the bastard. Anyway. You seem busy, I'll let you go. 850 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 2: Bless blessed, blessed. Give them a taste of Kiwi from me.