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Speaker 1: Perhaps not surprisingly, we've got a damning report into Auckland's

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Speaker 1: boarding houses or can council inspectures. They found of the

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Speaker 1: forty four properties suspected to be breaking the law, forty

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Speaker 1: while operating unauthorized trendsing and accommodation for boarding houses. Also

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Speaker 1: found government excuse me, government agencies were recommending clients move

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Speaker 1: into the houses, in which many had issues like fire

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Speaker 1: safety breaches, gang affiliated guests, owners questioning council authority. Professor

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Speaker 1: of Construction at au T John TOOKI is with us,

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Speaker 1: John morning. To you, if you had to wrap a

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Speaker 1: word around that, what would you use? Disastrous, shambolic, hopeless.

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Speaker 1: It looks like lots of adjectives, but I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go for not that surprising. Yeah, well that was my

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Speaker 1: next question because if I said to you, now, these

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Speaker 1: boarding houses, what do you reckon? I mean, we'd all

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Speaker 1: say they look like they're poorly run, and as it

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Speaker 1: turns out they are.

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Speaker 2: Well. In fairness, you know, you've got a simple selection

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Speaker 2: of forty four or whatever it was that we thought

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Speaker 2: were going to be crap, and sure enough they turned

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Speaker 2: out to be crap. And you know that that's not

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Speaker 2: entirely surprising. You've got a scenario where you've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of folks who they're at the b men's. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a tough economy to deal with at

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Speaker 2: the moment. People are not necessarily prioritizing upkeep and so

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Speaker 2: on and so forth.

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Speaker 1: Surprise, is this a rules thing whereby the rules aren't

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Speaker 1: adhere to all the authorities overseeing the rules don't chicken.

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Speaker 1: Therefore we end up where we have.

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Speaker 2: The rules are totally appropriate for what's necessary. It's a

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Speaker 2: it's an adherance issue. And that the when it comes

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Speaker 2: to authorities recommending accommodation so on, that smacks more of

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Speaker 2: old lists that have not been updated and not been

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Speaker 2: brought to brought up to date with the most appropriate

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Speaker 2: new stuff, you know, in terms of issuance of certifications.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I think there's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: left hand right hand bit as far as that side

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Speaker 2: of it is concerned. It's not surprising when so many

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Speaker 2: fail that we expect you to fail, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, And can we say, really bluntly, it's because probably

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Speaker 1: no one keys.

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Speaker 2: I think it comes down to a priority issue. I

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Speaker 2: think that's probably the most charitable description. And this comes

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Speaker 2: relatively speaking down the list. The problem with that, of course,

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Speaker 2: is the fact that we are talking, as we saw

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Speaker 2: with the fire last year. You know, we are actually

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Speaker 2: talking lives potentially on the line.

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Speaker 1: Exactly is anyone going to do anything about it? Will

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Speaker 1: they do another report in a couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: the same thing's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you're dealing with polemic issues like, for example,

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Speaker 2: filling in potholes, which is you know, it's a big issue,

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Speaker 2: you don't get me wrong, But when you've got number

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Speaker 2: one priority because of the electoral zeitgeist, you don't expect

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Speaker 2: these sorts of rather mundane issues to be addressed as

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Speaker 2: a priority.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, John, Appreciate your insight. John Tuckey, who's

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Speaker 1: the professor of construction at aut For.

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