1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tam podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: from Newstalk SEDB. 3 00:00:13,173 --> 00:00:15,253 Speaker 2: Twenty five to eleven Non News Talks 'DB. We were 4 00:00:15,253 --> 00:00:16,733 Speaker 2: staying at the start of the show this morning. It 5 00:00:16,773 --> 00:00:19,733 Speaker 2: takes a little bit of technical wizardry to be able 6 00:00:19,773 --> 00:00:23,293 Speaker 2: to broadcast live from New York around the world, and 7 00:00:23,853 --> 00:00:26,613 Speaker 2: this week we've managed our technical wizardry with none us 8 00:00:26,653 --> 00:00:29,853 Speaker 2: than our tech spurt. Paul Stenhouse is with us this 9 00:00:29,973 --> 00:00:32,613 Speaker 2: time every week. He is, of course based in New York, 10 00:00:32,653 --> 00:00:34,533 Speaker 2: He's been living there for years, so this morning I 11 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:36,653 Speaker 2: had the great pleasure of going out for a cup 12 00:00:36,693 --> 00:00:38,333 Speaker 2: of coffee with him before he set us up for 13 00:00:38,373 --> 00:00:38,773 Speaker 2: our show. 14 00:00:38,813 --> 00:00:42,333 Speaker 3: Good morning, Paul, I know I saved the show with 15 00:00:42,413 --> 00:00:43,733 Speaker 3: a USB adapter. 16 00:00:44,013 --> 00:00:46,973 Speaker 2: Who would have thought, I mean, you are always saving 17 00:00:47,013 --> 00:00:49,773 Speaker 2: the day in some way, shape or form, But no, 18 00:00:49,853 --> 00:00:52,373 Speaker 2: it was wonderful to see you right before our show. 19 00:00:52,373 --> 00:00:55,293 Speaker 2: And for anyone who wants to see what Paul's backyard 20 00:00:55,293 --> 00:00:57,453 Speaker 2: looks like, I've put a photo up on our Facebook page, 21 00:00:57,493 --> 00:01:00,173 Speaker 2: So go and search out Jack Tame on Facebook or 22 00:01:00,373 --> 00:01:02,253 Speaker 2: go to Jacktam dot com and you will be able 23 00:01:02,293 --> 00:01:05,573 Speaker 2: to see Paul and I just minutes before the show. 24 00:01:05,613 --> 00:01:07,853 Speaker 2: Started this morning and catching up with one of the 25 00:01:07,853 --> 00:01:11,653 Speaker 2: most incredible views in the world. Anyway, another week, Paul 26 00:01:11,773 --> 00:01:15,333 Speaker 2: and more AI advancement. So we've got the new clawed 27 00:01:15,373 --> 00:01:19,413 Speaker 2: AI being released, but a crazy powerful AI is apparently 28 00:01:19,453 --> 00:01:20,173 Speaker 2: just months away. 29 00:01:20,933 --> 00:01:24,093 Speaker 3: Yeah. So chat GPT, the company that started it all, 30 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:27,893 Speaker 3: can you believe not even two years ago? Says, well, 31 00:01:27,893 --> 00:01:30,413 Speaker 3: there's some reporting that says that they are going to 32 00:01:30,453 --> 00:01:34,213 Speaker 3: be releasing a new model, which is apparently code named O'Ryan, 33 00:01:34,893 --> 00:01:38,253 Speaker 3: in December, so that'll be about two years since this 34 00:01:38,413 --> 00:01:42,333 Speaker 3: thing launched. It's going to be Chat GPT maybe five. 35 00:01:42,493 --> 00:01:44,333 Speaker 3: We're currently at Chat GPT four. 36 00:01:45,253 --> 00:01:45,533 Speaker 2: Jack. 37 00:01:45,653 --> 00:01:49,333 Speaker 3: This is big though, because if this reporting is true, 38 00:01:50,013 --> 00:01:53,493 Speaker 3: they say it's going to be one hundred times more 39 00:01:53,573 --> 00:01:58,573 Speaker 3: powerful than the current GPT four. One hundred times more powerful? 40 00:01:58,773 --> 00:02:02,173 Speaker 3: Can I say that again? That is crazy. They're going 41 00:02:02,213 --> 00:02:05,213 Speaker 3: to launch it a little bit differently though, previously than 42 00:02:05,253 --> 00:02:07,653 Speaker 3: when they've had a new model, as they call them, 43 00:02:07,693 --> 00:02:09,933 Speaker 3: come out, they put them straight into the latest Chat 44 00:02:09,973 --> 00:02:13,093 Speaker 3: GPT software. They're going to do a little bit differently 45 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,533 Speaker 3: in the sense that they're going to give it to 46 00:02:14,573 --> 00:02:18,773 Speaker 3: their pain partners using their APIs first. So these are 47 00:02:18,813 --> 00:02:22,173 Speaker 3: the folks who are building honestly whole businesses on top 48 00:02:22,253 --> 00:02:27,053 Speaker 3: of chat GPT's business. It's big. It needs to work 49 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:29,893 Speaker 3: because they just closed a wait for it, six point 50 00:02:30,013 --> 00:02:34,693 Speaker 3: six billion dollar funding round and they're working to restructure 51 00:02:34,733 --> 00:02:38,453 Speaker 3: themselves now as a for profit company. They currently are 52 00:02:38,453 --> 00:02:41,493 Speaker 3: not for profit. So maybe instead of open AI, do 53 00:02:41,533 --> 00:02:43,773 Speaker 3: we think it'll be closed AI. 54 00:02:45,293 --> 00:02:48,213 Speaker 2: It's so interesting, So I mean, in real terms, what 55 00:02:48,373 --> 00:02:52,093 Speaker 2: does one hundred times more powerful than chat GBT four 56 00:02:52,173 --> 00:02:56,373 Speaker 2: actually mean? Like, if I'm going onto chatgbt dot com 57 00:02:57,173 --> 00:02:59,453 Speaker 2: or using the app, how different does it look to me? 58 00:03:00,133 --> 00:03:03,373 Speaker 3: I think faster, it's probably going to know more, it's 59 00:03:03,453 --> 00:03:08,133 Speaker 3: going to probably sound a little smarter. I mean when 60 00:03:08,173 --> 00:03:10,533 Speaker 3: you think about what these AI tools can do, right, 61 00:03:10,613 --> 00:03:15,533 Speaker 3: they scan text and they know information from that text. 62 00:03:15,533 --> 00:03:16,973 Speaker 3: So you think, if it's going to be one hundred 63 00:03:16,973 --> 00:03:20,173 Speaker 3: times more powerful, if it can scan all of the 64 00:03:20,293 --> 00:03:23,133 Speaker 3: laws of the land, all of the past cases, it's 65 00:03:23,133 --> 00:03:27,853 Speaker 3: going to be a significantly smarter quote unquote lawyer and 66 00:03:27,893 --> 00:03:32,093 Speaker 3: give maybe better legal advice or defenses or whatever you 67 00:03:32,093 --> 00:03:34,213 Speaker 3: want to use it for. Think of the same thing 68 00:03:34,213 --> 00:03:36,533 Speaker 3: about software engineers. If it can go and it can 69 00:03:36,613 --> 00:03:40,733 Speaker 3: scan code bases of current applications, it's going to know 70 00:03:41,053 --> 00:03:45,933 Speaker 3: so much more about those code bases, and it's going 71 00:03:45,973 --> 00:03:47,733 Speaker 3: to get to do more. It's going to do it faster, 72 00:03:47,853 --> 00:03:50,053 Speaker 3: and it's going to just look here and seem smarter. 73 00:03:50,773 --> 00:03:52,693 Speaker 2: I mean, it's already remarkable what it can do in 74 00:03:52,773 --> 00:03:55,333 Speaker 2: terms of coding, right Like, it's just just just crazy 75 00:03:55,413 --> 00:03:57,693 Speaker 2: what AI is able to achieve just now in the 76 00:03:57,813 --> 00:04:01,893 Speaker 2: latest clawed model is doing just that. Meanwhile, Adobe says 77 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:05,693 Speaker 2: that artists actually need to get on board the AI bandwagon. 78 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:08,773 Speaker 2: I thought AI why an artistry did not go hand 79 00:04:08,813 --> 00:04:09,293 Speaker 2: in hand? 80 00:04:10,053 --> 00:04:12,773 Speaker 3: No, they don't. Really. There's quite a backlash actually to 81 00:04:12,853 --> 00:04:16,293 Speaker 3: that tech in the whole creative community of all sorts 82 00:04:16,653 --> 00:04:19,533 Speaker 3: of artists, whether they be painters or whether they be 83 00:04:20,053 --> 00:04:23,853 Speaker 3: video editors. But this VP who looks after all of 84 00:04:23,893 --> 00:04:27,493 Speaker 3: the generative AI at Adobe says, these artists, Jack, they 85 00:04:27,493 --> 00:04:29,573 Speaker 3: are not going to be successful in this new world 86 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:34,373 Speaker 3: without using it. It basically says, get on board or 87 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:36,973 Speaker 3: you're going to get left in the dust. But here's 88 00:04:36,973 --> 00:04:40,493 Speaker 3: something that's interesting. He did go on to say that 89 00:04:41,213 --> 00:04:45,373 Speaker 3: human creativity will still be a critical part and that 90 00:04:45,413 --> 00:04:48,453 Speaker 3: there will be a thirst for artists who do things 91 00:04:48,533 --> 00:04:51,413 Speaker 3: by hand. So maybe it's more that you should do 92 00:04:51,573 --> 00:04:56,293 Speaker 3: the AI for things just for fun and maybe there 93 00:04:56,373 --> 00:04:59,773 Speaker 3: or for work, and then maybe do something that's may 94 00:04:59,773 --> 00:05:03,253 Speaker 3: be a little more artistic, for something that's a little 95 00:05:03,293 --> 00:05:04,213 Speaker 3: more meaningful to you. 96 00:05:05,093 --> 00:05:08,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a interesting it's going to be so disruptive. 97 00:05:08,453 --> 00:05:10,653 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Paul. We appreciate your time. Paul 98 00:05:10,693 --> 00:05:15,013 Speaker 2: Standhouse is our texpert and my coffee date this afternoon 99 00:05:15,053 --> 00:05:15,773 Speaker 2: in Manhattan. 100 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:19,653 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 101 00:05:19,733 --> 00:05:22,573 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 102 00:05:22,613 --> 00:05:24,533 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.