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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be doing this there In just a

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<v Speaker 2>moment we'll be having a chat with Dan Mitchison, but

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<v Speaker 2>after that we'll be having a chat also with the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor elect. I guess if that's the right expression, Mahe Drysdale.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, if we look out at the States,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican what's been going on in the States with

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans have been having their national convention. But of course,

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<v Speaker 2>just this time last week, somebody tried to assassinate Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and the course of the US election took something

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<v Speaker 2>of a turn. And now, of course, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans have wrapped up their national convention this week

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<v Speaker 2>with Ohio Senator JD. Vance being announced as Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>running mate, and pressure continues to mount on Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>to step down. Willie, won't he? And when? Anyways? Give

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<v Speaker 2>you the latest live from the Live on the United States?

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<v Speaker 2>Is US spun? Dan Mitchison, who's with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Good? I?

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<v Speaker 4>Dan? Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>Good eight? Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>So, firstly, how's Donald Trump doing after his appearance? And

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<v Speaker 2>they you can mention how are his prospects?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think he's doing a lot better. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>today he held the you know, first campaign in Michigan

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<v Speaker 4>that he has had since that assassination attempt, and he

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<v Speaker 4>was joined with his his VP pick JD. Vance, and

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<v Speaker 4>they immediately, you know, took on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>And what was interesting is, you know, the theme owing

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<v Speaker 4>into this whole event, especially after the assassination attempt, was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be unity.

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<v Speaker 3>But for Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's safe to say that unity means aligning

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<v Speaker 4>with him. You're with him or you're against him. And

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<v Speaker 4>I third, I think we heard him talk, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>about trying to do bring people together as part of

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<v Speaker 4>this convention before he went on a standard really rampage again.

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<v Speaker 4>Still a lot of Democrats claiming, you know, that he's

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<v Speaker 4>a threat to democracy, and he says, I'm the one

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<v Speaker 4>who's saving democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, how do you think the Pennsylvania is shooting?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we know about how it's impacted the polls?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I think it's a little too early

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<v Speaker 4>to really gauge that. I mean, you had, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>instant polls that show that his numbers were up slightly

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<v Speaker 4>over Joe Biden. And of course now everybody's wondering, well,

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<v Speaker 4>will he be going up against Joe Biden or will

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<v Speaker 4>he be going up against Kamala Harris And they're pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much even in the polls. Both are not particularly strong

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<v Speaker 4>candidates for the Democratic Party. In fact, the Democrats don't

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<v Speaker 4>really have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep bench right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you look ahead to four years from now,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're going to have a much better bench.

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<v Speaker 4>Pete Buddhaj Edge, who is a transportation ahead of the

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<v Speaker 4>US Transportation Department here and ran and failed, you know

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<v Speaker 4>several years ago. I think he could throw his hat.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor Gavin Newsom, who's the governor of California, he's he

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<v Speaker 4>is definitely going to be running. He's one of the

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<v Speaker 4>people that they've already talked about if Joe Biden were

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<v Speaker 4>to step aside, might he step into his shoes. But

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<v Speaker 4>right now, those that were around Trump, I think have

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<v Speaker 4>have circled the wagons and they're they're stronger than ever

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<v Speaker 4>and more sure that he is going to be in

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<v Speaker 4>the White House after November.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is in terms of the effects of the shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it just shore up his base? Are there are

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<v Speaker 2>undecided aviters that are thinking, oh, you know, seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>imagery of him, you know, saying fought and holding his

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<v Speaker 2>fist to the air and talking about unity. Has it

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<v Speaker 2>made a difference to undecided?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it has or not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's really interesting because you know, after surviving this attempt,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he has emerged, I think, looking stronger than

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<v Speaker 4>ever in the minds of a lot of his supporters,

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<v Speaker 4>and his son Eric has attributed his survival to divine intervention.

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<v Speaker 4>But the interesting thing is the more that comes out

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<v Speaker 4>against him, He's like teflon and that I hate using

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<v Speaker 4>that analogy, but it really is. It seems like every

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<v Speaker 4>whether he's on trial, or he has a sexual allegation

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<v Speaker 4>against him, or you get something like this.

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<v Speaker 3>That happened to him.

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<v Speaker 4>A week ago, I think his base of supporters just

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<v Speaker 4>tighten around him even more.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>There's still a lot of independence out there, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>really not going to change the mind of a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of Democrats or a lot of Republicans at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>And unfortunately, what we need in this country is a

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<v Speaker 4>third party, and that just is not going to happen,

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<v Speaker 4>not in the foreseeable future. I mean, we are very

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<v Speaker 4>black and white. There used to be a gray here

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<v Speaker 4>in the US when it came to politics, but now

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<v Speaker 4>it's an extreme left or an extreme right.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like tell us about his Trump speach to

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<v Speaker 2>the convention. I saw it was about ninety minutes long, Bud,

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<v Speaker 2>and said what tweited something like, what the hell was that?

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<v Speaker 2>But I couldn't put myself through it, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm glad we've got you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he started out in the first few minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, trying to trying to get people together. He

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<v Speaker 4>paid the respects to the fireman who was killed while

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<v Speaker 4>trying to save his family, and you saw him go

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<v Speaker 4>over and sort of kiss the helmet of.

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<v Speaker 3>The fireman.

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<v Speaker 4>But I really think that the women in Trump's orbit

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<v Speaker 4>were trying to humanize him. I think that was something

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<v Speaker 4>that they were trying to do, and we didn't see

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<v Speaker 4>four years ago. I mean, his daughter in law, who's

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<v Speaker 4>co chair of the Republican National Committee, was up there.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a grandchild speak of the convention. You saw

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<v Speaker 4>cutaway shots of him hugging some of his grandchildren. So

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<v Speaker 4>it really was a different field than it was four

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. But then, even though we were told he

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<v Speaker 4>was not going to go off script, he went off script,

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<v Speaker 4>and about fifteen or twenty minutes later into the speech,

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<v Speaker 4>it turned into something just like a rally where he

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<v Speaker 4>was just sort of rambling on about Joe Biden and

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<v Speaker 4>about the Democrats and how he is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the savior of the Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think.

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<v Speaker 4>He was trying to go after I mean, you look

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<v Speaker 4>at Hulk Hogan, who was there and Kid Rock. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans know that gen Z voters don't feel especially beholden

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<v Speaker 4>to Democrats or Republicans right now, and they sort of

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<v Speaker 4>see an opening right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, JD.

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<v Speaker 4>Vance is only thirty nine years old, so he's the

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<v Speaker 4>first millennial to be on a major party presidential ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're going after that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it started out fairly strong, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>it kind of rambled on a bit for the president.

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<v Speaker 3>The former president.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about J. D.

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<v Speaker 4>Evans, Well, I mean he's somebody I think we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to get to know a little bit more. I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>he wrote a best selling book. He is fairly young.

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<v Speaker 4>That book has been turned into a movie that has

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<v Speaker 4>now shot back up to the top of the streaming

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<v Speaker 4>charts on Netflix right now. I mean, he had he

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<v Speaker 4>grew up in Ohio, his family struggled, and really he

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<v Speaker 4>is you know, he was somebody who was against Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>But like so many other people, as we saw the convention,

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<v Speaker 4>they kind of turn that around. It's like, Okay, he's

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<v Speaker 4>the Godfather. Now you have to kiss the ring of

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<v Speaker 4>the Godfather. It doesn't matter what you said, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>matter that you look at Nicki Haley, who was a

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<v Speaker 4>adamant that that Trump was never going to be the

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<v Speaker 4>White House again and that she would never have anything

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<v Speaker 4>to do with him. But you know, she was up

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<v Speaker 4>there on stage singing his praises, saying, we have our disagreements,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, not so much that I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to back him.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, let's looking on the Democrat side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>How much public pressure? What do we know about the

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<v Speaker 2>public pressure and maybe the behinds the Saints pressure that

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<v Speaker 2>is mounting on Biden to step aside.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell you, Tim, I have interviewed some of

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<v Speaker 4>the top Democrats I would say over the last maybe

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen months on air, and I've talked to a few

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<v Speaker 4>off air. Publicly they said nobody would ever speak out

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<v Speaker 4>against President Biden. But even a year ago, even eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>months ago, privately, they were saying that this is not

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<v Speaker 4>the candidate that we want. We know that if he

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<v Speaker 4>goes up against Trump that he would probably lose. There's

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<v Speaker 4>very little confidence in Kamala Harris. But if Biden were

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<v Speaker 4>to step aside, I mean, she's the what are you

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<v Speaker 4>going to do? Ask her to take the number two role. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>You've got somebody who is a minority, who is a female,

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<v Speaker 4>who the Democrats are going after, and they've lost a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the support in the black community. So who

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<v Speaker 4>does that leave for them to bring up? Gavin Newsom,

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<v Speaker 4>who has sworn that he has no interest in running

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<v Speaker 4>for president, but everybody knows that he is there. He's

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<v Speaker 4>been out campaigning for President Biden, but often it sounds

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<v Speaker 4>like he's sort of laying the groundwork for his own campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>In four years. Barack Obama has.

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<v Speaker 4>Been called in by top Democrats, including former Speaker Nancy Pelosi,

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<v Speaker 4>to say, you've got to tell him to step down,

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<v Speaker 4>and nobody's answering the phone right now. Donors are just

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<v Speaker 4>even though David Letterman has announced he's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>hosting a big event in Hawait in a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>donors are just sort of waiting and seeing who are

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<v Speaker 4>we going to give our money to because they're just

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<v Speaker 4>not confident that that's going to be Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that in terms of public pronouncements, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be all in until they're not all in it, aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>I because as soon as it's and same with Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>He has to say he's in until he's not, because

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<v Speaker 2>if he shows any chinks in the honor, then that

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<v Speaker 2>city's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And the frustrating thing is you've got a man who

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<v Speaker 4>has served what forty fifty years or more in public service,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, if you're a Democrat, you're going to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Is, he's done a great job for the country.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your time to step aside.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you didn't need to run that you were

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a transitional president.

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<v Speaker 3>And he even said that himself.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it was everybody I think was under the

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<v Speaker 4>impression I'm just going to do this for four years.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll lay the groundwork for my successor, and I'll step aside.

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<v Speaker 4>But we know that if you admit that going into

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<v Speaker 4>an office, you're a lame duck president because nobody wants

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that's going to be around for just four years

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<v Speaker 4>to start things and not finish it. And that's what

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<v Speaker 4>Biden is saying, Well, I have to finish my job here.

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<v Speaker 4>But his wife should have been, you know, there saying

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's time for you.

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<v Speaker 3>To step aside.

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<v Speaker 4>His closest age and advisors should have been doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>but apparently Joe Biden is very stubborn when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to that, and there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 4>are scared about saying that to his face.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your money on? Do you think he will last

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<v Speaker 2>the distance to the election, because I reckon, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of time till the public pressure just gets

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<v Speaker 2>to and the polls and everything. It's going to catch

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<v Speaker 2>up with them, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think it is?

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<v Speaker 4>I would have said maybe a month ago, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>see somebody dropping out. Something like this has certainly not happened,

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<v Speaker 4>And in my lifetime a couple of days ago, I

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<v Speaker 4>would say maybe by tomorrow, maybe by Monday, early this

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<v Speaker 4>next week, we're going to hear that he has decided

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<v Speaker 4>for health reasons or something. I mean, and that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you going to bow out gracefully without losing face?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he says he's going to be back out campaigning.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, he's now considering. You know, if something bad

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<v Speaker 4>were to happen to me, he said, you know, with

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<v Speaker 4>my health, then I might consider stepping aside.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he catches COVID. I mean, is this the door

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<v Speaker 3>that's opened to him?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now saying I just I just don't think I

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<v Speaker 4>can put myself or my family through this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>willing to risk my health or my life to do

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<v Speaker 4>this and sort of open the door for Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 4>to step in and continue to run for November.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, look, given that there has been the susassination

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<v Speaker 2>and attempt, and there are certain rules around if you

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<v Speaker 2>change almostmid straim, it's bad news. But is there any

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<v Speaker 2>chance that if he did step down that the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>might seize the agenda for a bit and have a

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<v Speaker 2>chance of getting the man and woman into the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's a there's a very good chance that

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<v Speaker 4>the Republicans will win. I can't see anybody that the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats can put up right now that would at this

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<v Speaker 4>late day be able to.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, to be Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't, like I say, looking down the road,

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<v Speaker 4>I can certainly see Democrats taking the White House in.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in four years.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's a lot of people right now that don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to vote for Donald Trump or Joe Biden. I've

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<v Speaker 4>got two teenage kids, twins that are voting in their

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<v Speaker 4>first presidential election in just a few months. And both

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<v Speaker 4>have come out and said there's nobody in the party

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<v Speaker 4>that I want to vote for, and I know a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of their peers have said the same thing. And

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<v Speaker 4>those are the voters that the Democrats and the Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>are going to have to go after. Two are those

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<v Speaker 4>younger voters, and right now they're just not appealing to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess that's why I thought, if they did

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<v Speaker 2>have a change, is there any possiblity have a game

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<v Speaker 2>in change?

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<v Speaker 4>But oh well, yeah not at this point. Not to

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<v Speaker 4>mention this drags out for so long. My dad, who's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, from the UK, says, wouldn't it be nice

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<v Speaker 4>in this country if we could just have it like

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<v Speaker 4>they do for a prime minister in the UK you

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<v Speaker 4>get five weeks, you don't spend a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 4>you hit the road, and then it's over and done

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<v Speaker 4>with and they're in number ten, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 4>next day. But here it's you know, it's a good

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen months to two years of campaigning. So as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as whoever gets in the White House does in November,

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen months after that, we'll be talking about twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff. Hey, Dan, I really appreciate your time this oftenoon.

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<v Speaker 2>You're insight, Thanks so.

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<v Speaker 3>Much, my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is Dan Mitchison. Mitchinson. He is a US correspondent,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to be back in a moment talking

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<v Speaker 2>politics a little more local, well I hell of a

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