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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: As the election he tough. It's Saturday Mornings.

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Speaker 1: With Jacktam with bpewer dot co dot z for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements News Talks b.

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Speaker 3: Calda, New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Jack Tame with you broadcasting out of New York City

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Speaker 3: this morning, and my goodness, we have an extraordinary first

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Speaker 3: guest view. She is a woman who's lived an amazing life.

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Speaker 3: Her name is Sahi Hawkins. She was born in Addis

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Speaker 3: Ababa in Ethiopium. She was brought up in Australia and

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Speaker 3: she loved to dance. Not only did she love to dance,

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Speaker 3: she was a champion dancer. She went on to win

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Speaker 3: all manner of Latin dancing competitions, competing all around the world.

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Speaker 3: When one day Sahai Hawkins got a call. Now keep

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Speaker 3: in mind she was only sixteen years old. Just sixteen

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Speaker 3: years old. The Wiggles at that point had been around

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Speaker 3: and performing for more than twenty five years. They've been

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Speaker 3: around performing since before she was born, Sahai. They asked,

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Speaker 3: would you like to become the latest Yellow wiggle. She's

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Speaker 3: going to be with us after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 3: Cannot wait for that conversation. Right now, it is eight

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Speaker 3: minutes past nine, Jack Team, and I'm riding this in

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Speaker 3: Central Park this morning. I'm right up in the northeast corner,

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Speaker 3: sitting on a bench by the Harlem Mere, the Harlem

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Speaker 3: of my twenties. It's funny, it's so familiar, the warm

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Speaker 3: evening air, people laid out with picnic mats, a guy

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Speaker 3: with a big plastic bin of turos, kids chasing each other, squealing, skylarking,

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Speaker 3: the sound of traffic crawling down Fifth that across the road,

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Speaker 3: steering down the length of Central Park is what I

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Speaker 3: think is my favorite obscure building in all of Manhattan.

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Speaker 3: The views from this thing would cost enough to make

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Speaker 3: an oligarch gulp. But it took until just a couple

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Speaker 3: of years ago for New York City to finally convert

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Speaker 3: this building from its previous use as a low security prison.

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Speaker 3: It must have had the best views of any prison

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Speaker 3: on the planet. I haven't been in New York for

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Speaker 3: two years now. When I was last year post COVID,

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Speaker 3: it honestly it felt a little bit dark.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day I used to be so blase

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Speaker 3: about safety. I felt more threatened in Central christ Church

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Speaker 3: late at night than I did in East Harlem. But

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Speaker 3: COVID changed that. You could sense that people were fearful

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Speaker 3: and untrusting. The good news is that it's better now.

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Speaker 3: It's better. It feels more like the New York I remember.

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Speaker 3: And so when I landed this week, I did my

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Speaker 3: I mostly didn't need the map. It's amazing how you

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Speaker 3: can feed a kind of nostalgic for the gentle resistance

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Speaker 3: the shuddering of a metal subway car staring dead eyed

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Speaker 3: And look, I'm realistic enough to accept it probably means

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Speaker 3: One thing doesn't change. Though New York is the best

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Speaker 3: for two simple reasons I reckon Number one diversity. There

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Speaker 3: whether people are conscious of it or not. It means

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Speaker 3: it means here tonight, on a random autumn evening, as

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Speaker 3: thirteen minutes past nine on your Saturday morning. You know,

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Speaker 3: I said last week, I think that it felt like

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Speaker 3: Hayley's comet. Seeing the black Caps performing as they were

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Speaker 3: in India, winning that first test was an extraordinary thing

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Speaker 3: remarkable how well they are doing in India, three hundred

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Speaker 3: trying to put the commentator's curse on them this morning.

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Speaker 3: Next up, Kevin Millon will get us under way for

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Speaker 3: our Saturday Morning together. It's thirteen minutes past. I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 1: From the campaign trail in the US. It's Saturday Mornings

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Speaker 1: with Jack team and be fured on code dot zet

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Speaker 3: V News Talks eDV. Yes, you're listening to Jack Tame

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Speaker 3: broadcasting live out of New York as I prepare for

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four US presidential election and have plenty

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Speaker 3: more to say about that this morning. My first impressions

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Speaker 3: it is probably not the best place to have an

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Speaker 3: I have, yeah, already had a little bit of experience

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Speaker 3: in the last day or two with some people who

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Speaker 3: So I'll tell you about that very shortly. If you

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Speaker 3: want to get in touch this morning, ninety two. Ninety

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Speaker 3: two is the text number, you know, the deal Jacketnewstalks,

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Speaker 3: dB dot co dot NZED is my email address. Kevin Miln,

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Speaker 5: It's just extraordinary. Really, I can get over it, maybe

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Speaker 5: because I'm an old guy, but you know, it's sort

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Speaker 5: of incredible that you're announcing that you're coming in live

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. We look. I never want

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, of course you're talking about being in Central Park.

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Speaker 5: And I saw Leonard Bernstein putting on a content in

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Speaker 5: I reckon Manhattan's the center of the universe, like you,

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Speaker 5: Filming there in nineteen ninety six. It was a travel

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Speaker 5: video for tvns it's holiday program. It seemed you couldn't

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Speaker 5: that Gianni Vasacci? And there was the renowned past designer

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Speaker 5: We were told there was going to be a huge

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Speaker 5: We got the most punishing images of a massive moon

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Speaker 3: That's so special, isn't it. Yeah. I suspect that that

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Speaker 3: budgets and television certainly haven't improved, and that views might have.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Sure, But here we are sitting there talking about

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Speaker 5: in there. You're sitting, isn't there. It's phenomenal, It really is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, no, it's very special. Hey, thank you so much, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: and thank you for your text this morning. Jack, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely loved your introduction. The memories you have reminded me

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Speaker 3: of last year when I went back to Sydney, having

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Speaker 3: not lived there for nearly forty years. So much changes,

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Speaker 3: This is clear, Thank you. Clear. Yeah, it's funny. So

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your texts and emails this morning. Jack.

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Speaker 3: Funnily enough, I am listening to you from the tranquility

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Speaker 3: heb dot co dot NZT is my email of address.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty three to ten, which means it's time to

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Speaker 3: catch up with our film reviewer, Francesca Rudkin, Kilda. Good morning,

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Speaker 3: So two different films to work through this morning. Let's

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Speaker 3: start off. But the first one, this one is showing

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Speaker 3: in cinemas starring Kate Winslet. Let's have a listen to Lee.

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Speaker 7: Question is what are you going to do the meta.

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Speaker 8: SA Media Europe.

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Speaker 7: I just want to do my part.

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Speaker 2: I'm with Volge magazine. No women allowed in the press briefing.

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Speaker 9: We got to be kidding me.

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Speaker 2: We don't say women to combat well that's a problem.

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Speaker 10: Because I'm here. Why should the man get to decide?

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Speaker 3: So that is Lee's starring Kate Winslet tell us about

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Speaker 3: a Francisca Yes look.

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Speaker 11: A couple of weeks ago, I spoke about Social Roman's

446
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Speaker 11: performance in a film called The Outrun and mentioned that

447
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Speaker 11: it's very much an award worthy performance.

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Speaker 10: And this is probably the second award.

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Speaker 11: You know, deservingly award performance that I have seen heading

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Speaker 11: into next year.

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Speaker 10: Kate Winslor is really fantastic in the film. She produced

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Speaker 10: it as well. She spent about nine years get this

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Speaker 10: film onto the big screen. It was adapted from a

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Speaker 10: book called The Lives of Lean Miller, and it was

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Speaker 10: written by Lee's son, Anthony Penrose, and she really throws

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Speaker 10: herself into this role. Lean Miller was an American model

457
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Speaker 10: and a fine art photographer. She was amused of Man Ray.

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Speaker 10: She taught photography in the nineteen thirties. She was in Europe.

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Speaker 10: She was in France with a group of friends and

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Speaker 10: like a lot of people talking about Hitler, but not

461
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Speaker 10: really aware of the horror that lies ahead. And with

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Speaker 10: this story we very much pack up her life during

463
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Speaker 10: World War Two when she wanted to head to the

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Speaker 10: front line and be a war photographer. She was working

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Speaker 10: for Vogue magazine at the time, but women were not

466
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Speaker 10: allowed to go to the front but she managed to

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Speaker 10: find a few loopholes and really pushed back, sort of

468
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Speaker 10: against the rules and boundaries, as she had done her

469
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Speaker 10: whole life. And she was one of the first photographers

470
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Speaker 10: to uncover the reality of the Holocaust.

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Speaker 11: Documentary documenting the horror that she found at Concentration Care,

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Speaker 11: which interestingly Vogue. The British Vogue refused to print because

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Speaker 11: they thought it would be upsetting, but the American magazine

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Speaker 11: did pick them up. I'm endlessly fascinated by what drives

475
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Speaker 11: war correspondence.

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Speaker 4: And this film.

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Speaker 10: Very much looks at that through the eyes of Lee.

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Speaker 11: We see we learn a lot more about her, We

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Speaker 11: see the impact that this experience had on her.

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Speaker 10: We sort of learn about.

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Speaker 11: How her own personal life and experience has contributed to

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Speaker 11: the way she saw the world and therefore what she

483
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Speaker 11: was able to capture through the lens. This is a

484
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Speaker 11: female team is behind this film, and in a way,

485
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Speaker 11: it's a female team giving a sort of putting the

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Speaker 11: female gaze on a female perspective of war. And I

487
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Speaker 11: think this is one of the reasons which why her

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Speaker 11: photographs had become this era had become so famous. She

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Speaker 11: was often relegated to having to photograph's experience of war

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Speaker 11: and things like that, and had a beautiful understanding of

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Speaker 11: what it means to take a photo of somebody at

492
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Speaker 11: a very traumatic time in their life.

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Speaker 10: She was a real, no nonsense, practical woman, a trailblazer.

494
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Speaker 11: She Yeah, she's a great character, and you can just

495
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Speaker 11: totally probably imagine how Kate Winslet steps into her shoes.

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Speaker 11: The film also takes a look though, at the power

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Speaker 11: of photojournalism and war correspondence and the importance jack of

498
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Speaker 11: actually being on the ground and witnessing it for yourself,

499
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Speaker 11: which I think in this day and age we talk

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Speaker 11: a lot about also the power of photography.

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Speaker 10: So the way this story is told is a young

502
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Speaker 10: journalist comes to interview her about her career, which she's

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Speaker 10: very reluctant.

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Speaker 11: To talk about, and it gets to the point where

505
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Speaker 11: that she slowly opens up more and more and she

506
00:27:00,453 --> 00:27:03,773
Speaker 11: shows him photos of these concentration camps. And these are

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Speaker 11: actually wordless scenes. Nothing needs to be said in this

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Speaker 11: film at all. It's a little bit like the zone

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Speaker 11: of interest. Just the power of the image says it all,

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Speaker 11: and so you sort of the film very much kind

511
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Speaker 11: of takes a look at the power of photography and

512
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Speaker 11: what it can say, and really.

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Speaker 10: There are no words. So yeah, great, great performance by

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Speaker 10: Kate Winslet. Lee is going to be definitely a film

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Speaker 10: not to miss this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That sounds amazing. Okay, I'm really looking forward to seeing that.

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Speaker 3: Sounds incredible. So that is Lee. It is showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 3: Now your next film is also showing in cinemas. This

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Speaker 3: is Venom the Last Dance?

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Speaker 9: Who sent that?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 5: Every thing I know?

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Speaker 3: That is Venom the Last Dance? Tell us about it?

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Speaker 10: So Jack, we're going from this to the ridiculous here

526
00:28:08,653 --> 00:28:12,173
Speaker 10: but almost intentionally ridiculous. Probably one of the best things

527
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Speaker 10: about then in the Last Dances. It's one hundred and

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Speaker 10: nine minutes long. Good on you, Thank you for providing

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Speaker 10: us with a short.

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Speaker 11: Sort of precise slice of entertainment that's perfect to eat

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Speaker 11: some popcorn and then head off and get back to

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Speaker 11: your lives. This is the third and supposedly final film

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Speaker 11: in the Venom trilogy. The Venom films are a little

534
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Speaker 11: bit of this that they took it one by surprise.

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Speaker 10: The first one was released in twenty eighteen, and maybe

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Speaker 10: because there weren't a lot of other superhero films released

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Speaker 10: around that period, it did really, really well.

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Speaker 11: It cost about one hundred million to make and it

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00:28:46,213 --> 00:28:48,733
Speaker 11: grossed about eight hundred and fifty five minute, so it

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Speaker 11: was like one of the biggest box office surprise hits

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Speaker 11: of the year. It's a since they've gone, well, let's

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Speaker 11: just hipbout a few more. And I kind of, in

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Speaker 11: a way, I quite like the way these films are

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Speaker 11: quite bad. They feel very sort of half hearted. They're

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Speaker 11: a little bit ridiculous. The plot's really simple but still

546
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Speaker 11: didn't make a huge amount of sense. Tom Hardy just

547
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Speaker 11: carries this character of this another journalist, a journalist who

548
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Speaker 11: has this symbotic relationship with an alien, and the two

549
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Speaker 11: of them are just whacking and off they go, and

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Speaker 11: it's sort of a spin off of Spider Man, but

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Speaker 11: Spider Man doesn't really exist in this film. They crack

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Speaker 11: a few gags which do not work with some quite

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Speaker 11: good sort of special effects, and you kind of just

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Speaker 11: sit there going on this ride, going okay.

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Speaker 10: I kind of I almost admire you guys managing.

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Speaker 11: To make a success out of this and good on you,

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Speaker 11: but it probably is time to wrap it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it sounds good. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure that one's for me. I'm going to go

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Speaker 3: with Lee. That was your first film, so that is

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Speaker 3: our venom. The last dance. Lee was Francesca's first film.

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Speaker 3: That's the one with Kate Winslet, and both of those

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Speaker 3: films will be up on the news talks He'd be website.

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Speaker 3: The easiest way to find all the stuff from our

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Speaker 3: show is to go to the website, find our show page,

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Speaker 3: and everything goes up there just as soon as it's

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Speaker 3: been on the radio. And if you don't really do

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Speaker 3: you feel like going along to the cinema this week,

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Speaker 3: you just think for a quiet night at home after

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks, maybe after the kiwis tomorrow night, good

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Speaker 3: News after ten o'clock this morning, got three new shows

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Speaker 3: to recommend you in our screen time segment, including Simone

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Speaker 3: Biles Rising Part two. You might remember before the Olympics

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Speaker 3: they put out like a couple of weeks before the Olympics,

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Speaker 3: Netflix put out a documentary series about Simone Biles about

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Speaker 3: her experience at the last Olympics the way she was

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Speaker 3: trying to rebuild her gymnastics career and then compete in

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Speaker 3: the Olympics this year. Well, of course there was going

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Speaker 3: competed in those Olympics very very successfully, triumphantly, even they've

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Speaker 3: put out the part two, so will tell you a

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Speaker 3: bit more about that after ten o'clock. Next up, though,

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Speaker 3: our cook nicki Wix is hair with a delicious long

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Speaker 3: weekend dinner right now. It's called ten.

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Speaker 2: Live from the US. It's Saturday Mornings with Jackame.

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Speaker 1: With bpewre dot co dot Nz high quality supplements, news talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be thirteen to ten on new Stooks. He'd be

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for all of your texts and

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Speaker 3: your emails this morning, Jack loved, loved, loved, loved your

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Speaker 3: four loves. How about that four loves loved your opening

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Speaker 3: comments this morning. Fantastic description of New York. Have only

592
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Speaker 3: been there once. We'd love to go there once again.

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Speaker 3: It's on my bucket list. This is what It's one

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Speaker 3: of those great cities for coming back to. I reckon.

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Speaker 3: There are only so many cities on Earth that you

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Speaker 3: I reckon New York's one of those not only do

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Speaker 3: it's great to see how a city changes, but doesn't

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Speaker 3: always in motion. So thank you for that. Ninety two

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Speaker 3: ninety two If you want to send us a message

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Speaker 3: this morning, time now to catch up with our cook

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Speaker 3: Nikki works more than to Nikki.

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Speaker 12: Yes, Morena. Had I known that you were in the

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Speaker 12: great Big Apple, I would have perhaps pulled out a

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Speaker 12: New York cheesecake or some Buffalo Wings.

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Speaker 3: Or something like that. To be here to pull out those,

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Speaker 3: to pull out those.

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Speaker 12: It's true, it's true.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: The color of the food in New York. How fantastic,

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Speaker 12: you lucky thing.

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Speaker 3: I always think it's the world's biggest food court. You

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Speaker 3: want it, They've gone it basically somewhere, and there's going

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Speaker 3: to be a good version of it somewhere. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's been going hungry over the last few days. You

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Speaker 3: have a little bit of a long weekend treat for us,

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Speaker 3: a bit of an opportunity to use the long weekend

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Speaker 3: to make a big batch of some staples with a

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Speaker 3: twist to get you through the next week period.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I really do, because I think it's nice when

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Speaker 12: you've got a long weekend for those people that don't

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Speaker 12: want to be cooking all weekend to make a big

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Speaker 12: batch of something and then you can sort of be

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Speaker 12: scooping into it. And in this case, I have made

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Speaker 12: a big batch of Japanese rice salad. And I know

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Speaker 12: that might not sound like the sort of thing that

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Speaker 12: you were really after. Maybe you were open for a cheesecake.

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Speaker 12: You can do that too, but this salad.

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Speaker 2: Is just great.

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Speaker 13: It does.

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Speaker 12: You need to when you're doing a big batch of

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Speaker 12: food or food that you want to last for a

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Speaker 12: few days or even longer, you want to make sure

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Speaker 12: that it's fruit will what us chefs refer to is

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Speaker 12: hold well. You know, like there's a cold slaw is

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Speaker 12: going to start weeping after a short period of time,

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Speaker 12: and that sort of thing. So you want to make

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Speaker 12: sure that it really does hold well. And this one does.

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Speaker 12: It's just great.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 12: Look I have used it's sort of a healthy to

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Speaker 12: which I quite like over a long weekend because we

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Speaker 12: overindulge of a long weekend. This makes about six cups.

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Speaker 12: Now you can double triple it whatever. But first thing,

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Speaker 12: I do is pickle some mushrooms, actually jack, and these

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Speaker 12: just take a few hours or overnight, and I just

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Speaker 12: love these. All I do is I grab abouts, you know,

650
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Speaker 12: I sort of packet or about two hundred grams a

651
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Speaker 12: couple of handfuls of brown button mushrooms. You could use

652
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Speaker 12: the white button mushrooms if you like, but the button

653
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Speaker 12: ones are quite tight, which we love. Thinly slice those,

654
00:34:00,133 --> 00:34:02,173
Speaker 12: or if they're really tiny, you could have them whole

655
00:34:03,813 --> 00:34:06,853
Speaker 12: and throw those in a jar, really cram them into

656
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Speaker 12: a jar, and then put in one teaspoon of finely

657
00:34:09,653 --> 00:34:12,453
Speaker 12: diced onion, or you could use some chives or spring onion,

658
00:34:12,733 --> 00:34:15,933
Speaker 12: one teaspoon of grated ginger, one teaspoon of brown sugar,

659
00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:19,373
Speaker 12: seventy five meals of rice wine vinegar easily available in

660
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Speaker 12: the supermarket, and one big tablespoon of soy sauce. Mix

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00:34:23,493 --> 00:34:26,213
Speaker 12: those together and pour those over your mushrooms, and then

662
00:34:26,613 --> 00:34:29,813
Speaker 12: top up the jar with boiling water and just leave

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Speaker 12: it for about two hours or overnight. They'll also keep

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Speaker 12: for ages. And they're just the most beautiful pickled mushrooms,

665
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Speaker 12: and we're going to use that in this beautiful salad.

666
00:34:39,693 --> 00:34:41,533
Speaker 12: The salad is just a manner of tossing a whole

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Speaker 12: lot of ingredients together. I've got four cups of brown rice.

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Speaker 10: Or sushi rice.

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Speaker 12: Both of those are quite short grained, need a good

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00:34:48,493 --> 00:34:52,773
Speaker 12: rinse before they get cooked. I always use the steaming.

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Speaker 15: Method, Jack.

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Speaker 12: I've long given up trying to boil rice, and I

673
00:34:55,253 --> 00:34:57,253
Speaker 12: don't have a rice steamer, but I just steam it

674
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Speaker 12: in a pot. One cup of those beautiful shelled itt

675
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Speaker 12: a marmade beings that you can find in the frozen section.

676
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Speaker 2: Of the Oh, don't you love those?

677
00:35:05,533 --> 00:35:06,013
Speaker 1: I love it.

678
00:35:06,573 --> 00:35:08,733
Speaker 12: Make sure when you're selecting them you get the ones

679
00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:10,893
Speaker 12: that are shelled, otherwise you're going to be potting them.

680
00:35:11,293 --> 00:35:13,573
Speaker 12: And I just pour boiling water over those, and it's

681
00:35:13,693 --> 00:35:17,373
Speaker 12: enough to kind of cook them enough. Half to one

682
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Speaker 12: hole telegraph cucumber, slice that nice and thinly, three to

683
00:35:21,413 --> 00:35:25,573
Speaker 12: four radishes, your pickled mushrooms. And then you can add

684
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Speaker 12: to this, which I would sort of toss over at

685
00:35:27,613 --> 00:35:31,933
Speaker 12: the end, maybe some tuna chunks, maybe some hot smoked salmon,

686
00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:35,053
Speaker 12: maybe some shrimar, carrot. But you don't need to. It's fine,

687
00:35:35,413 --> 00:35:38,413
Speaker 12: so toss all the ingredients together. I do hold back

688
00:35:38,453 --> 00:35:40,573
Speaker 12: some of the radish for the top because it looks

689
00:35:40,613 --> 00:35:44,053
Speaker 12: so beautiful. Tumble it onto a big old serving plate,

690
00:35:44,213 --> 00:35:48,133
Speaker 12: and then drizzle over again. It's that sore bought roasted

691
00:35:48,253 --> 00:35:51,373
Speaker 12: sesame dressing. Oh I can drink the stuff, it's so good,

692
00:35:51,773 --> 00:35:55,093
Speaker 12: and so be quite lavish with that. Also, you know,

693
00:35:56,293 --> 00:35:58,933
Speaker 12: drizzle over a little bit of that pickling juice, a

694
00:35:58,973 --> 00:36:01,373
Speaker 12: good squeeze of lemon juice, and then scatter over your

695
00:36:01,413 --> 00:36:04,773
Speaker 12: remaining radish and your sesame seeds. And you've just got

696
00:36:04,853 --> 00:36:10,813
Speaker 12: this beautiful, colorful, amazing salad that you can just spoon

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00:36:10,933 --> 00:36:13,573
Speaker 12: out for lunch or for dinner, maybe on its own,

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00:36:14,213 --> 00:36:18,013
Speaker 12: maybe together with some barbecue chops or or as I say,

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00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:20,093
Speaker 12: some smoked salmon. It's really delicious.

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Speaker 10: It's just so good.

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Speaker 3: It sounds fantastic. Yeah, and like you said, it's perfect

702
00:36:24,973 --> 00:36:28,213
Speaker 3: for the long weekend as well. Okay, thank you. So

703
00:36:28,293 --> 00:36:30,853
Speaker 3: what we will do is, look, everyone knows the deal.

704
00:36:30,893 --> 00:36:32,293
Speaker 3: We're going to go and put her on the website.

705
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Speaker 3: Hopefully no one's been scribbling down notes over the last

706
00:36:34,413 --> 00:36:35,773
Speaker 3: couple of minutes. If you want to make that at

707
00:36:35,813 --> 00:36:39,013
Speaker 3: home this weekend, it's really easy. Nicky's recipes are always

708
00:36:39,093 --> 00:36:40,893
Speaker 3: up on the website just a few minutes after she's

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Speaker 3: been on with us. Thank you so much. Nick. You

710
00:36:43,133 --> 00:36:44,573
Speaker 3: have a fantastic long weekend.

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00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:48,493
Speaker 12: Yeah you too. Enjoy that beautiful, big, thrumming city.

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Speaker 3: I will do NICKI wick cook beer right now. It's

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Speaker 3: seven to ten.

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Speaker 2: His week is ending.

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Speaker 1: Your weekend is just studying live from the US. It's

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team with the Fewered on Codon

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Speaker 1: inst for high quality supplements.

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Speaker 2: News talk to me.

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Speaker 3: So, I suppose the obvious question at this point is

720
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Speaker 3: who do people in the US think is going to

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Speaker 3: win the US election? Or who do I think is

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00:37:13,973 --> 00:37:16,653
Speaker 3: going to win the US election? Truth be told, I

723
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Speaker 3: think the answer, at least for me at the moment,

724
00:37:19,373 --> 00:37:21,573
Speaker 3: to both of those questions is exactly the same, and

725
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Speaker 3: that is, I don't know. The polls are crazy close,

726
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:31,373
Speaker 3: whether it's the whether it's the popular vote, or whether

727
00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:35,013
Speaker 3: it is the swing states or battleground states that are

728
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Speaker 3: likely to decide the election. I'm going to be traveling

729
00:37:37,013 --> 00:37:38,573
Speaker 3: around the US over the next week or so. I'm

730
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Speaker 3: trying to get a bit of a steer from on

731
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Speaker 3: the ground. But I think what is obvious at this

732
00:37:42,693 --> 00:37:46,693
Speaker 3: stage is that if you look at those critical battleground states,

733
00:37:47,053 --> 00:37:51,133
Speaker 3: the poles are definitely worse for Karmala Harris than they

734
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Speaker 3: were for Joe Biden at the stage of the race,

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00:37:53,373 --> 00:37:55,613
Speaker 3: and then they were for Hillary Clinton at the stage

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Speaker 3: of the race. Now that's not to say that the

737
00:37:57,053 --> 00:37:59,573
Speaker 3: poles are necessarily accurate, but it is to say that

738
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Speaker 3: the polls in those critical states are worse for Carmela

739
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Speaker 3: and thus might suggest that Trump is in a better

740
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Speaker 3: stage at the moment. Anyway'm going to tell you more

741
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Speaker 3: about my first impressions from life on the ground in

742
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Speaker 3: the US ahead of the election after ten o'clock this

743
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Speaker 3: morning as well as that cannot wait for our feature

744
00:38:14,133 --> 00:38:18,013
Speaker 3: interview this morning. She is, at sixteen years old, the

745
00:38:18,533 --> 00:38:22,973
Speaker 3: youngest person ever in the Wiggles. She's had an amazing life.

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Speaker 3: Her name is Sahi Hawkins and she's been to the

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Speaker 3: Wiggles for a couple of years now. She was a

748
00:38:27,773 --> 00:38:31,493
Speaker 3: champion ballroom dancer and Latin dancer. She's coming back to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand to perform alongside the Wiggles and a bit

750
00:38:34,093 --> 00:38:37,173
Speaker 3: of an unusual performance. So usually, of course their songs

751
00:38:37,173 --> 00:38:39,453
Speaker 3: are for kids. Well, just after New Years they're going

752
00:38:39,533 --> 00:38:41,893
Speaker 3: to be playing at a festival for adults. They're going

753
00:38:41,933 --> 00:38:44,373
Speaker 3: to be remixing some of the Wiggles classics for those

754
00:38:44,413 --> 00:38:47,013
Speaker 3: of us who grew up with those beats. So Sahai

755
00:38:47,133 --> 00:38:49,293
Speaker 3: Wiggle will be with us right after the tearcock news.

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Speaker 3: It's almost ten o'clock. News is next. I'm Jack Tame

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00:38:51,933 --> 00:38:55,333
Speaker 3: broadcasting live from New York. This is news Talk as

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Speaker 3: the election.

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Speaker 1: He's It's Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame with bpewer dot

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Speaker 1: co dot nzaid for high quality Supplements, News Talks env.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a fruit salad, a tree.

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Speaker 1: Salah, yummy yummy fruit salad, yummy yummy fruits.

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Speaker 3: Morning and welcome to news Dogs. He'd be yes, that's

764
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Speaker 3: just going to be going round and round and round

765
00:39:22,533 --> 00:39:24,813
Speaker 3: and round your head over the next three days or so.

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Speaker 3: Should get you through the whole long weekend. I reckon

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Speaker 3: the Wiggles, would you believe have been going strong for

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Speaker 3: more than thirty years now? And many of us and

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Speaker 3: I say us who grew up watching the Wiggles have kids,

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Speaker 3: and what started as a group of four has of

771
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Speaker 3: course become a group of eight, four men and four

772
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Speaker 3: women across a broad range of ages. Yellow Wiggle Sahai

773
00:39:48,093 --> 00:39:50,813
Speaker 3: is the youngest wiggle there has ever been. So she

774
00:39:50,933 --> 00:39:52,893
Speaker 3: grew up listening to the Wiggles and now she's going

775
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Speaker 3: to be performing alongside the Wiggles during the New Zealand

776
00:39:56,453 --> 00:40:00,213
Speaker 3: tour early next year with their big dance sound system

777
00:40:00,373 --> 00:40:02,293
Speaker 3: dance party. It's going to be the sort of performance

778
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Speaker 3: that you would expect, gets kids and their parents bogging along.

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Speaker 3: So Hi it is with a skeout, a good morning,

780
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Speaker 3: thank you, thanks for having me. It is so good

781
00:40:10,373 --> 00:40:12,133
Speaker 3: to see you and so good to have you back

782
00:40:12,173 --> 00:40:15,693
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. For people who aren't fully aware of

783
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Speaker 3: your story, can you tell us what is involved when

784
00:40:18,493 --> 00:40:19,653
Speaker 3: it comes to joining the Wiggles.

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Speaker 7: Well, all of us have our own separate talents. But

786
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Speaker 7: I'm a dancer, So I literally went to dancing like

787
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Speaker 7: a dance school my whole life, and I trained up

788
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Speaker 7: until year ten. Mid year ten, the Wiggles asked if

789
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Speaker 7: I'd like to come on the road as a Wiggly dancer.

790
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Speaker 7: I said yes, and then halfway during the tour they said,

791
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Speaker 7: would you like to be a Wiggle?

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Speaker 3: That's literally how it happened, and it's okay. Tell me

793
00:40:40,573 --> 00:40:42,213
Speaker 3: about the moment when they asked you to be a Wiggle.

794
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Speaker 3: Just like paint has the picture here.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well, there was actually two different circumstances. We had

796
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Speaker 7: a TV show called Fruit Sala TV, which was on YouTube.

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Speaker 7: It was a Red Wiggle at the time, and it

798
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Speaker 7: was really really cool. That was on a Zoom meeting

799
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Speaker 7: we had all the other the four Other Wiggles because

800
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Speaker 7: we've expanded to h with the Four Other Wiggles. John Pierce,

801
00:41:00,573 --> 00:41:02,213
Speaker 7: the current Purple Wiggle, he was on there with me

802
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:05,013
Speaker 7: as well, and they said, would you guys like to

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Speaker 7: be part of our new tvc for TV right, and so.

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Speaker 3: Like they just say, hey, guys, hope you're having a

805
00:41:11,733 --> 00:41:13,373
Speaker 3: good day. Do you want to be part of the

806
00:41:13,413 --> 00:41:15,533
Speaker 3: TV show? And you're like, oh my gosh, or like

807
00:41:15,613 --> 00:41:18,133
Speaker 3: do they build up? Do they say, We've been really

808
00:41:18,173 --> 00:41:22,253
Speaker 3: impressed with you guys, your professionalism, your talents, or how

809
00:41:22,293 --> 00:41:23,373
Speaker 3: do they break it? Can you remember?

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00:41:23,453 --> 00:41:25,213
Speaker 7: I can't even remember. It was kind of a blow.

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Speaker 7: I was actually at school when that had happened. I

812
00:41:28,533 --> 00:41:30,253
Speaker 7: went into one of the little rooms and I put

813
00:41:30,293 --> 00:41:34,573
Speaker 7: my headphones on you at school at school? Yeah, literally,

814
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Speaker 7: So it was kind of surreal. I honestly can't remember

815
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Speaker 7: most of it, but what was pretty fast and we

816
00:41:40,853 --> 00:41:43,173
Speaker 7: kind of all had an inkling. Something was happening, but

817
00:41:43,293 --> 00:41:45,093
Speaker 7: we didn't really know it was that. And I think

818
00:41:45,133 --> 00:41:46,773
Speaker 7: even when they told us, we didn't realize we were

819
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Speaker 7: being wiggles. We just thought we were characters until we

820
00:41:49,093 --> 00:41:51,453
Speaker 7: got into the studio and they gave us skivvy's. I

821
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Speaker 7: got a red skivvy with the names Hire written on it.

822
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Speaker 7: Then I realized, oh, my goodness, I'm being a wiggle

823
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Speaker 7: right now, which is cool. And then so from there

824
00:41:59,493 --> 00:42:01,693
Speaker 7: we filmed that TV series and it was mid lockdown,

825
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Speaker 7: so I didn't see anyone for ages. And then I

826
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Speaker 7: think a week before we were like restrictions were ending,

827
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Speaker 7: we were about to go back into the world. They

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Speaker 7: asked if I could come into the office on a Monday,

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Speaker 7: and I was like, oh, I'm going back to dancing

830
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Speaker 7: and like my dance school. So I was like, oh,

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Speaker 7: can I come the next day just so I know

832
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Speaker 7: how the rest of my year is going to pan out,

833
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Speaker 7: and they said, we really really need you. I was like, oh, yeah, okay,

834
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Speaker 7: that's fine, it's not that deep.

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Speaker 2: I'll go.

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Speaker 7: And then that morning before I went in, they set

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Speaker 7: up a zoom meeting and they said, so hi, Like

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00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:32,093
Speaker 7: that was where they kind of like said, we've been

839
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Speaker 7: really loving having you along the team. Would you like

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Speaker 7: to take over Emma's role and become the Yellow Wiggle?

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Speaker 7: And that was a pretty pretty surreal moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that must have been incredible, like do you and

843
00:42:44,213 --> 00:42:46,133
Speaker 3: you get like the rush of a dreamland and all

844
00:42:46,173 --> 00:42:47,733
Speaker 3: of that when they're telling you. But you're trying to

845
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Speaker 3: be professional literally and like we.

846
00:42:49,733 --> 00:42:52,333
Speaker 7: Had no clue, like we did not know. We thought maybe,

847
00:42:52,493 --> 00:42:53,973
Speaker 7: like I don't know, they were doing a new song

848
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:55,813
Speaker 7: or something they needed me to bring something in. But

849
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Speaker 7: my mom and dad were sitting next to me. My

850
00:42:57,933 --> 00:43:00,093
Speaker 7: brother was off on the camera and they were Mum

851
00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:02,013
Speaker 7: was trying not to cry. She's like, oh my goodness.

852
00:43:02,133 --> 00:43:06,013
Speaker 7: And so it was I like, surreal, honestly amazing.

853
00:43:07,053 --> 00:43:10,253
Speaker 3: You talked about your dance experience and you have just

854
00:43:10,573 --> 00:43:14,493
Speaker 3: been an incredibly successful dancer over the year. Salsa right, yes,

855
00:43:14,613 --> 00:43:15,853
Speaker 3: lots of American dancing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: My brother's Colombian, so when we adopted him, I saw

859
00:43:19,893 --> 00:43:22,013
Speaker 7: their styles and when we were in Colombia and I

860
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Speaker 7: was like, Mom, I was about six, and I was like,

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Speaker 7: I want to do this. So when I came back

862
00:43:25,653 --> 00:43:27,613
Speaker 7: to Australia, did all the styles and then I went

863
00:43:27,653 --> 00:43:31,333
Speaker 7: into mainly somba and salsa, and I am eleven times

864
00:43:31,373 --> 00:43:33,733
Speaker 7: Australian dance champion and five times world champion.

865
00:43:35,493 --> 00:43:38,373
Speaker 3: That's good, okay, So tell me about being in Colombia

866
00:43:38,413 --> 00:43:39,133
Speaker 3: and seeing the dancing.

867
00:43:39,373 --> 00:43:42,253
Speaker 7: We were you we were in Karli and Bogata, we

868
00:43:42,373 --> 00:43:44,853
Speaker 7: went everywhere, and a lot of their dancing was with

869
00:43:44,933 --> 00:43:46,853
Speaker 7: the dresses and that's called coumbia, so that was their

870
00:43:46,893 --> 00:43:49,413
Speaker 7: cultural style. But I did see sausa on the streets

871
00:43:49,453 --> 00:43:52,453
Speaker 7: when we went to different like Latin like restaurants, like

872
00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:54,253
Speaker 7: they had dancing there, and I was like, oh my goodness,

873
00:43:54,253 --> 00:43:54,813
Speaker 7: I want to do this.

874
00:43:55,373 --> 00:43:57,693
Speaker 3: I've never I don't think in all of my life,

875
00:43:57,893 --> 00:44:05,613
Speaker 3: I've never felt less coordinated or talented. Then traveling through

876
00:44:05,653 --> 00:44:08,773
Speaker 3: Columbia and going to like a salsa club and seeing

877
00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:10,813
Speaker 3: everyone just kind of like make you know, because the

878
00:44:10,853 --> 00:44:12,453
Speaker 3: thing about culser is you can just dance with a

879
00:44:12,493 --> 00:44:14,493
Speaker 3: stranger and just you just you follow each other, you

880
00:44:14,533 --> 00:44:16,733
Speaker 3: follow the lead, right literally, you un less. You can't

881
00:44:16,813 --> 00:44:19,933
Speaker 3: dance like me, which cause it's just like, oh my gosh,

882
00:44:19,973 --> 00:44:23,173
Speaker 3: it's so embarrassing. But it strikes me of the many

883
00:44:23,213 --> 00:44:26,413
Speaker 3: different dance styles as being one where if you are

884
00:44:26,533 --> 00:44:28,093
Speaker 3: just making it up in the moment, it must be

885
00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:31,493
Speaker 3: incredibly fulfilling. It must be. It must be an amazing

886
00:44:31,893 --> 00:44:32,733
Speaker 3: feeling when you're doing.

887
00:44:32,733 --> 00:44:35,293
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, And like you said, like they literally have

888
00:44:35,373 --> 00:44:38,093
Speaker 7: social clubs. That's what they like do. They literally go

889
00:44:38,213 --> 00:44:40,213
Speaker 7: and dance with others and it's so cool. I think

890
00:44:40,253 --> 00:44:43,173
Speaker 7: the music feels really like it really works with the rhythm,

891
00:44:43,253 --> 00:44:45,013
Speaker 7: Like even if you're not a dancer, you kind of

892
00:44:45,053 --> 00:44:45,973
Speaker 7: want to dance along to it.

893
00:44:46,213 --> 00:44:46,453
Speaker 14: Yeah.

894
00:44:46,733 --> 00:44:50,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's remarkable what kind of energy is required

895
00:44:50,973 --> 00:44:54,133
Speaker 3: and being a wiggle because like everyone has bad days,

896
00:44:54,853 --> 00:44:57,853
Speaker 3: like even even like in the you know, if you're

897
00:44:57,853 --> 00:45:00,053
Speaker 3: having a really rough time of things, it must take

898
00:45:00,093 --> 00:45:02,133
Speaker 3: something special to be able to pick yourself up and

899
00:45:02,213 --> 00:45:02,693
Speaker 3: get on with it.

900
00:45:03,293 --> 00:45:05,693
Speaker 7: I think it's such a group, like amazing group that

901
00:45:05,773 --> 00:45:08,773
Speaker 7: we work with. Everyone's friends will actually mates, so it

902
00:45:08,893 --> 00:45:10,813
Speaker 7: makes it so much easier. It doesn't feel like work.

903
00:45:10,853 --> 00:45:12,373
Speaker 7: And even if you do have a like a bad

904
00:45:12,453 --> 00:45:14,013
Speaker 7: day or a bad morning, as soon as you get

905
00:45:14,013 --> 00:45:16,373
Speaker 7: into the office, someone's cracked a joke and we're all

906
00:45:16,453 --> 00:45:18,533
Speaker 7: laughing again. So I think it's you've got to.

907
00:45:18,493 --> 00:45:23,453
Speaker 3: Be possitively yeah, like it does it take something special

908
00:45:23,493 --> 00:45:25,813
Speaker 3: though as an individual, do you think that's kind of

909
00:45:25,853 --> 00:45:28,333
Speaker 3: part of the secret source and making you a successful

910
00:45:28,373 --> 00:45:30,853
Speaker 3: Wiggle You know, maybe something that not all of us have,

911
00:45:31,213 --> 00:45:32,613
Speaker 3: those of us who can be a bit grumpy from

912
00:45:32,613 --> 00:45:34,973
Speaker 3: time to time, that you can just push through that

913
00:45:35,133 --> 00:45:36,773
Speaker 3: when you are having a bit of a crappy day.

914
00:45:37,053 --> 00:45:39,213
Speaker 7: I think so a little bit for sure, because I mean,

915
00:45:39,333 --> 00:45:41,413
Speaker 7: we couldn't be Wiggles going out and being mad in public,

916
00:45:41,493 --> 00:45:46,893
Speaker 7: you know, can you imagine, yeah, really ruined childhoods? But

917
00:45:47,413 --> 00:45:49,093
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, I think you've got to have that

918
00:45:49,493 --> 00:45:53,293
Speaker 7: certain like energy about you and that's why it's such

919
00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:56,453
Speaker 7: a good group to work with. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, no, definitely,

920
00:45:56,533 --> 00:45:59,693
Speaker 7: we definitely couldn't be walking out having a dancer upside.

921
00:45:59,613 --> 00:46:01,293
Speaker 3: I'm sure I know the answer to this. But did

922
00:46:01,373 --> 00:46:03,213
Speaker 3: you grow up listening to the Wiggles music?

923
00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:06,653
Speaker 7: Absolutely massive fan. I literally have photos of I went

924
00:46:06,733 --> 00:46:08,333
Speaker 7: to I think I've been to three of their concerts

925
00:46:08,373 --> 00:46:09,133
Speaker 7: before it became.

926
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:11,933
Speaker 3: A wiggle Oh my gosh, do you have you showed them?

927
00:46:12,093 --> 00:46:12,253
Speaker 2: Yeah?

928
00:46:12,333 --> 00:46:14,693
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's there's a few of my Instagram

929
00:46:14,773 --> 00:46:17,773
Speaker 7: And I was going through my mom's like laptop the

930
00:46:17,813 --> 00:46:19,413
Speaker 7: other day and I found a video of me doing

931
00:46:19,453 --> 00:46:21,133
Speaker 7: like rockerby e Van when I was like two.

932
00:46:21,333 --> 00:46:24,213
Speaker 3: So, yes, that's so funny because I feel like it's

933
00:46:24,293 --> 00:46:27,293
Speaker 3: the kind of soundtrack to a million childhood or to

934
00:46:27,533 --> 00:46:31,253
Speaker 3: like teen million childhood. So you know, it's pretty remarkable

935
00:46:31,293 --> 00:46:33,813
Speaker 3: that you can go from that that, I don't want

936
00:46:33,813 --> 00:46:38,613
Speaker 3: to say a brand, yeah, but a group canon dua

937
00:46:39,373 --> 00:46:42,213
Speaker 3: through generations like that, don't you think. Why do you

938
00:46:42,253 --> 00:46:42,653
Speaker 3: think that is?

939
00:46:43,253 --> 00:46:45,613
Speaker 7: I think it all stems from the original four the

940
00:46:45,693 --> 00:46:49,653
Speaker 7: og Wiggles. They were all had back up in like

941
00:46:50,013 --> 00:46:53,173
Speaker 7: early childhood teaching, so they were all preschool teachers and

942
00:46:53,253 --> 00:46:55,253
Speaker 7: they all loved music. They literally had their own band

943
00:46:55,293 --> 00:46:57,813
Speaker 7: called the Cockroaches. Yeah, so they were pretty cool. And

944
00:46:57,933 --> 00:47:00,533
Speaker 7: then I don't know how that switch happened, but they

945
00:47:00,573 --> 00:47:03,133
Speaker 7: started making music for children, and I think because they

946
00:47:03,173 --> 00:47:06,253
Speaker 7: had such a mazing knowledge in both they could come

947
00:47:06,373 --> 00:47:09,853
Speaker 7: at it together. And also, our audience renews every few years,

948
00:47:09,973 --> 00:47:12,693
Speaker 7: so it's like, you know, it's not getting old because

949
00:47:12,693 --> 00:47:13,813
Speaker 7: you've always got a new audience.

950
00:47:13,933 --> 00:47:17,053
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you do you have a trick for getting

951
00:47:17,133 --> 00:47:19,013
Speaker 3: the songs out of your head at the end of

952
00:47:19,053 --> 00:47:23,733
Speaker 3: the day? Oh, I mean I when I first it's

953
00:47:23,933 --> 00:47:26,653
Speaker 3: not a criticism of the song, because they're amazing. About

954
00:47:26,693 --> 00:47:28,293
Speaker 3: of the reason that the groove is so successful is

955
00:47:28,333 --> 00:47:30,373
Speaker 3: because they are so catchy. But they are so catchy.

956
00:47:30,453 --> 00:47:32,453
Speaker 7: They are so catchy. Honestly, every time we have a

957
00:47:32,533 --> 00:47:34,613
Speaker 7: new one, too get stuck in my head. I think

958
00:47:34,773 --> 00:47:37,293
Speaker 7: I listen to very different music when I'm at home

959
00:47:37,453 --> 00:47:37,693
Speaker 7: or in the.

960
00:47:39,493 --> 00:47:40,133
Speaker 3: What's very different?

961
00:47:40,293 --> 00:47:42,573
Speaker 7: What's very different? Oh, it goes from everywhere. So I

962
00:47:42,653 --> 00:47:45,333
Speaker 7: do love a bit of R and B and rap, yes,

963
00:47:45,533 --> 00:47:47,733
Speaker 7: but I also love some good old school dad tunes.

964
00:47:47,813 --> 00:47:48,933
Speaker 2: So oh I like that.

965
00:47:49,013 --> 00:47:52,013
Speaker 3: Okay, give me the give me the like most hardcore

966
00:47:52,133 --> 00:47:53,013
Speaker 3: rap that you listen to.

967
00:47:53,653 --> 00:47:56,733
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I'm trying to think. Okay, I like

968
00:47:56,853 --> 00:47:58,933
Speaker 7: more of the nineties vibes. I'm more of like with

969
00:47:59,173 --> 00:48:01,213
Speaker 7: Nelly and Biggie. Yeah like that.

970
00:48:01,453 --> 00:48:01,893
Speaker 2: I like that.

971
00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:04,293
Speaker 7: I like this stuff now, Like I still love like

972
00:48:04,653 --> 00:48:07,973
Speaker 7: Who's like Don Toler and like Kendrick and all that,

973
00:48:08,053 --> 00:48:10,893
Speaker 7: Like it's still like that too, but like definitely because

974
00:48:10,893 --> 00:48:13,693
Speaker 7: of my parents, Like I'll just listen to the Mannies Wratham, that's.

975
00:48:13,573 --> 00:48:17,413
Speaker 3: So funny, Like yeah, talking about contrasts and nothing gets

976
00:48:17,453 --> 00:48:24,573
Speaker 3: resealed out of your here country grammar Ross. Yeah, yeah,

977
00:48:24,653 --> 00:48:28,733
Speaker 3: that's funny what surprised you about what surprised you about

978
00:48:28,893 --> 00:48:31,293
Speaker 3: the institution? Now that you are absolutely part of it

979
00:48:31,453 --> 00:48:33,933
Speaker 3: and you are touring and you are performing all the time,

980
00:48:34,733 --> 00:48:36,493
Speaker 3: what do you understand about the Wiggles that you didn't

981
00:48:36,573 --> 00:48:37,893
Speaker 3: understand when you're on the outside.

982
00:48:38,893 --> 00:48:41,533
Speaker 7: I think how important it is when we do our

983
00:48:41,613 --> 00:48:45,333
Speaker 7: shows that were catering to children and that this is

984
00:48:45,373 --> 00:48:47,493
Speaker 7: their first time seeing a live concert. This is like

985
00:48:47,613 --> 00:48:50,653
Speaker 7: all experiences, especially with little ones, is very exciting for

986
00:48:50,733 --> 00:48:52,853
Speaker 7: their parents. So with Rocker by a Bear, for example,

987
00:48:53,053 --> 00:48:57,613
Speaker 7: everybody clap, you know, they clap three times. That's something amazing,

988
00:48:57,773 --> 00:49:00,853
Speaker 7: Like little steps are huge to them. So it's pretty

989
00:49:00,853 --> 00:49:02,933
Speaker 7: amazing to see it firsthand when we see a parent

990
00:49:03,013 --> 00:49:06,213
Speaker 7: watching their child like join along and they just be

991
00:49:06,573 --> 00:49:08,453
Speaker 7: with happiness. So that's pretty much stood out to me.

992
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:09,413
Speaker 3: Do you like kids?

993
00:49:09,813 --> 00:49:09,973
Speaker 14: Oh?

994
00:49:10,093 --> 00:49:13,533
Speaker 7: I mean no, of course, absolutely.

995
00:49:13,613 --> 00:49:17,533
Speaker 3: Scandalers that would have said, I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, But

996
00:49:17,653 --> 00:49:21,093
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, because the OG four were came

997
00:49:21,133 --> 00:49:24,693
Speaker 3: from a background and in early childhood education, yes, you

998
00:49:24,773 --> 00:49:27,693
Speaker 3: were still at school, yes, literally, so it's not like

999
00:49:27,773 --> 00:49:29,293
Speaker 3: you've had heaps of experience on that front.

1000
00:49:29,333 --> 00:49:31,733
Speaker 7: Necessarily, No, And that's probably what I've learned the most. Yeah,

1001
00:49:31,733 --> 00:49:34,293
Speaker 7: I joined when I was fifteen, so still half a child.

1002
00:49:36,773 --> 00:49:37,933
Speaker 3: School doesn't it well?

1003
00:49:38,333 --> 00:49:40,573
Speaker 7: Because I was a dancer, I kind of already went

1004
00:49:40,653 --> 00:49:42,933
Speaker 7: to a bit of a I did like distance education,

1005
00:49:43,053 --> 00:49:45,533
Speaker 7: so schooling online, and then it kind of like phased out.

1006
00:49:45,573 --> 00:49:48,373
Speaker 7: But I was already doing that, so that that works

1007
00:49:48,453 --> 00:49:49,853
Speaker 7: without any crazy headlines.

1008
00:49:51,093 --> 00:49:54,293
Speaker 3: There's fair enough to So tell us about the performance

1009
00:49:54,333 --> 00:49:56,093
Speaker 3: you guys are going to be putting together in January

1010
00:49:56,173 --> 00:49:59,373
Speaker 3: this year. You're going to mount the Wiggles Sound System Festival.

1011
00:49:59,613 --> 00:50:02,693
Speaker 7: Yes, this is pretty cool because Dorothy has now become

1012
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:06,133
Speaker 7: a DJ. She's she's leveled up. I mean, she still

1013
00:50:06,173 --> 00:50:08,653
Speaker 7: does all the wiggle stuff, but she's now. We've got

1014
00:50:08,773 --> 00:50:11,933
Speaker 7: remixes of the og Wiggles songs who need it, like

1015
00:50:12,093 --> 00:50:15,093
Speaker 7: club vibes. We've got full house techno, and that's what

1016
00:50:15,173 --> 00:50:18,133
Speaker 7: we're doing in January next year. Myself, I think John

1017
00:50:18,213 --> 00:50:20,813
Speaker 7: and Anthony were gonna come out the younger ones. John

1018
00:50:20,853 --> 00:50:23,053
Speaker 7: and I we're the ones who like to keep the

1019
00:50:23,173 --> 00:50:26,453
Speaker 7: Wiggles trendy. And Anto is amazing. He's great, he loves

1020
00:50:26,493 --> 00:50:28,173
Speaker 7: to join and he has no idea what's going on,

1021
00:50:28,373 --> 00:50:30,773
Speaker 7: but he loves the party. So yeah, We're so stoked

1022
00:50:30,813 --> 00:50:31,333
Speaker 7: to be coming back.

1023
00:50:31,413 --> 00:50:34,773
Speaker 3: That's such a good idea because it's like people you

1024
00:50:34,853 --> 00:50:37,613
Speaker 3: know who are kind of like getting into middle age

1025
00:50:37,693 --> 00:50:39,973
Speaker 3: like me, who like love a better that, love a

1026
00:50:40,013 --> 00:50:42,293
Speaker 3: lot of club music, love the songs. Combine them together.

1027
00:50:42,413 --> 00:50:42,773
Speaker 8: There you go.

1028
00:50:42,973 --> 00:50:44,853
Speaker 7: Yeah, you get nostalgia and you get good beats.

1029
00:50:44,973 --> 00:50:46,933
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. We're so good to have you back in

1030
00:50:46,973 --> 00:50:48,693
Speaker 3: the country. Thank you so much for giving us your

1031
00:50:48,813 --> 00:50:51,973
Speaker 3: time and congratulations on what you have achieved at a

1032
00:50:52,093 --> 00:50:53,253
Speaker 3: ridiculously young age.

1033
00:50:53,573 --> 00:50:56,853
Speaker 7: No worries, thank you think Miss Long that is.

1034
00:50:56,933 --> 00:50:59,293
Speaker 3: A high Wiggle. So as I said, the Wiggles are

1035
00:50:59,293 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 3: bringing their sound System Dance Party to Mount Monganui and

1036
00:51:03,013 --> 00:51:05,453
Speaker 3: the Three christ Church. It's going to be there the summer,

1037
00:51:05,773 --> 00:51:09,893
Speaker 3: set to be the most exciting kids and adults dance

1038
00:51:10,013 --> 00:51:12,453
Speaker 3: festival on the planet. You can find tickets and information

1039
00:51:12,773 --> 00:51:17,653
Speaker 3: at www dot Kyaevents dot co dot nz and we

1040
00:51:17,733 --> 00:51:20,093
Speaker 3: will make sure that there is a link on our

1041
00:51:20,533 --> 00:51:22,853
Speaker 3: website and on our Facebook page this morning as well.

1042
00:51:23,013 --> 00:51:25,013
Speaker 3: Now before eleven o'clock, we're going to give you some

1043
00:51:25,093 --> 00:51:27,013
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1044
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1045
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1046
00:51:32,173 --> 00:51:34,933
Speaker 3: or seeing the damage that they cause. As well as that,

1047
00:51:35,133 --> 00:51:38,173
Speaker 3: our money guy with his top tips on preparing for

1048
00:51:38,373 --> 00:51:40,973
Speaker 3: buying property, the things that you can do to help

1049
00:51:41,133 --> 00:51:44,573
Speaker 3: bring the price down. Right now, it's nineteen minutes past ten.

1050
00:51:44,613 --> 00:51:46,893
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1051
00:51:47,813 --> 00:51:49,893
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1052
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1053
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1054
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1055
00:51:57,733 --> 00:52:00,013
Speaker 3: Twenty two minutes past ten on news doorgs EDB. If

1056
00:52:00,013 --> 00:52:01,493
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1057
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Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number this morning. Heads The

1058
00:52:03,973 --> 00:52:05,573
Speaker 3: messages coming in, so I'm going to get to those

1059
00:52:05,693 --> 00:52:09,253
Speaker 3: very shortly right now though it is screen time time.

1060
00:52:09,973 --> 00:52:13,133
Speaker 3: Tara Reward is our screen time experts. She's with us

1061
00:52:13,173 --> 00:52:15,293
Speaker 3: this time every week with her top picks for TV

1062
00:52:15,493 --> 00:52:19,413
Speaker 3: shows to watch or stream at home. Morning Tara, Good morning,

1063
00:52:20,133 --> 00:52:22,573
Speaker 3: a couple of shows I'm really excited about this morning.

1064
00:52:22,653 --> 00:52:25,213
Speaker 3: Let's start off with the latest one streaming on Netflix.

1065
00:52:25,253 --> 00:52:26,613
Speaker 3: Tell us about Territory.

1066
00:52:27,493 --> 00:52:30,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a new Australian drama and it's sort

1067
00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:33,773
Speaker 16: of a mix of Yellowstone and Succession. It's set in

1068
00:52:33,973 --> 00:52:37,213
Speaker 16: the Northern Territory on the biggest cattle station in the country,

1069
00:52:37,253 --> 00:52:39,973
Speaker 16: which is about the same size as Belgium, and it's

1070
00:52:39,973 --> 00:52:43,653
Speaker 16: about the family, the Lawsons, who run the station. Starts

1071
00:52:43,733 --> 00:52:45,733
Speaker 16: with the death of the son who's been running the

1072
00:52:45,813 --> 00:52:49,173
Speaker 16: farm and that triggers a big power struggle about who

1073
00:52:49,173 --> 00:52:51,893
Speaker 16: will take over. You've got the second son who wants

1074
00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:54,973
Speaker 16: the job but as an alcoholic. You've got the wayward

1075
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Speaker 16: grandson who's into some dodgy criminal activity. You've got businessmen

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00:53:00,213 --> 00:53:02,093
Speaker 16: who want to come in and mind the land and

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00:53:02,173 --> 00:53:03,973
Speaker 16: make a lot of money off it. And you've got

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00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:05,733
Speaker 16: the daughter in law, who's played by the brilliant and

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00:53:05,853 --> 00:53:08,573
Speaker 16: at All who is the most skilled and savvy of

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Speaker 16: them all, but is overlooked because.

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Speaker 3: She's a woman.

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Speaker 16: And so the family in the show is very dysfunctional

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00:53:13,933 --> 00:53:16,693
Speaker 16: and this power struggle to take over and run the

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00:53:16,773 --> 00:53:19,573
Speaker 16: farm is going to play out in this very dry, dusty,

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00:53:20,053 --> 00:53:23,333
Speaker 16: remote location where you need to rely on the same

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00:53:23,413 --> 00:53:26,493
Speaker 16: community of people who are also trying to undercut and

1087
00:53:26,813 --> 00:53:28,013
Speaker 16: do a deal and betray you.

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Speaker 12: It's a very series.

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Speaker 16: It's exactly what you would expect from an Australian drama

1090
00:53:33,293 --> 00:53:36,093
Speaker 16: in the outback. There's kind of no surprises here, but

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Speaker 16: I think this is Netflix making an Australian drama that

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00:53:39,813 --> 00:53:43,773
Speaker 16: will hanniversal global appeal. A great cast. Sarah Wiseman and

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Speaker 16: Jay Ryan, both New Zealand actors, are in this.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I really enjoyed this.

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Speaker 16: It's a compelling, easy watch for the long weekend.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, that's territory that's on Netflix. Very excited about

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Speaker 3: this next one, also streaming on Netflix. And we all

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Speaker 3: knew it was coming, didn't we Survowe Biles Rising Part two.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is the second part of the documentary series

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Speaker 16: about the incredible American gymnast Simon Biles, And we talked

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Speaker 16: about this series a couple of months ago when it

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Speaker 16: came out before the Olympics and said, you know, if

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Speaker 16: anyone deserves a redemption arc, it's Simobiles.

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Speaker 14: And now we have it.

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Speaker 16: So Netflix have just released two more episodes of this series,

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Speaker 16: following Simon Biles as she goes back to the Olympics

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Speaker 16: and competes at Paris and fulfills that goal of battling

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Speaker 16: through the pain and overcoming all the things she's needed

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Speaker 16: to overcome to win gold. And I wanted to mention

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00:54:33,573 --> 00:54:35,573
Speaker 16: this again today because so many people have told me

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00:54:35,693 --> 00:54:38,333
Speaker 16: that they loved Part one of this documentary. Part two

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00:54:38,413 --> 00:54:40,733
Speaker 16: episodes are just as good. It's about her life and

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00:54:40,853 --> 00:54:43,293
Speaker 16: her sacrifices, what it takes to be the very best.

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00:54:43,613 --> 00:54:45,653
Speaker 16: But also there's lots of footage of her competing at

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00:54:45,693 --> 00:54:47,893
Speaker 16: Paris and lots of that behind the scenes action that

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00:54:48,253 --> 00:54:49,133
Speaker 16: I just love as well.

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00:54:49,253 --> 00:54:51,613
Speaker 3: So if you enjoyed Part one, this is the icing

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00:54:51,693 --> 00:54:53,853
Speaker 3: on the cake, do you reckon there would have been

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00:54:53,893 --> 00:54:56,493
Speaker 3: a part two if Paris hadn't gone well? Or is

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00:54:56,533 --> 00:54:59,333
Speaker 3: it like this is entirely as Part two, entirely contingent

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Speaker 3: on who doing well in Paris.

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Speaker 16: No, I feel like it would have. They would have

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Speaker 16: made it regardless. I think she's the type of person

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Speaker 16: that is inspirational no matter what challenges she faces. So

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Speaker 16: even if she hadn't pulled off those goals in Paris,

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Speaker 16: I think this still would have been a pretty compelling

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Speaker 16: emotional watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nice, I'm really looking forward to seeing that.

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Speaker 3: So that is Simone Biles Rising Part two that's on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: In our third show I was on Netflix this morning

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00:55:28,493 --> 00:55:31,213
Speaker 3: as well. It's an oldly bit of goody line of Beauty.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Sadly, I'm not here to say that there is

1133
00:55:33,853 --> 00:55:35,853
Speaker 16: a new season of Line of Judy. I wish there was,

1134
00:55:35,933 --> 00:55:38,213
Speaker 16: but I can say that all six seasons have just

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00:55:38,333 --> 00:55:41,293
Speaker 16: landed on Netflix and as you say, an old bit

1136
00:55:41,293 --> 00:55:43,333
Speaker 16: of goody. And if you haven't seen Line of Duty before,

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00:55:43,373 --> 00:55:46,053
Speaker 16: I really recommend this probably one of the best British

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00:55:46,133 --> 00:55:49,613
Speaker 16: drama series ever made. It's a thriller about a police

1139
00:55:49,613 --> 00:55:53,133
Speaker 16: department who have to investigate corrupt police officers. So they

1140
00:55:53,173 --> 00:55:56,333
Speaker 16: are investigating their colleagues and the deeper they dig, the

1141
00:55:56,413 --> 00:55:59,053
Speaker 16: more corruption they find. And there is just twist after

1142
00:55:59,093 --> 00:56:01,933
Speaker 16: twist after twist. It's a Jed Mercurio drama and he

1143
00:56:02,093 --> 00:56:04,813
Speaker 16: is famous for dropping viewers straight into the action from

1144
00:56:04,853 --> 00:56:07,453
Speaker 16: the opening scenes. There is never a slow start to

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00:56:07,613 --> 00:56:10,853
Speaker 16: Line a Journey. Season one came out in twenty twelve,

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00:56:11,013 --> 00:56:12,453
Speaker 16: but it is one of those shows that you can

1147
00:56:13,333 --> 00:56:15,813
Speaker 16: just watch over and over again. It's in a Juridassic

1148
00:56:15,933 --> 00:56:18,933
Speaker 16: and already it's in Netflix's top ten in New Zealand,

1149
00:56:18,973 --> 00:56:21,613
Speaker 16: so we're loving it. And if you want something classic

1150
00:56:21,733 --> 00:56:23,733
Speaker 16: and just so good to binge through this long weekend,

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00:56:24,133 --> 00:56:25,253
Speaker 16: you can't go wrong with this one.

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00:56:25,453 --> 00:56:28,773
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to add to your recommendations for binging.

1153
00:56:28,853 --> 00:56:31,213
Speaker 3: And I know this is a real favorite for many

1154
00:56:31,253 --> 00:56:34,213
Speaker 3: people listening this morning. But on the way flying over

1155
00:56:34,253 --> 00:56:35,733
Speaker 3: here to New York, I knew that i'd have to

1156
00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:37,773
Speaker 3: pick out a couple of things just in case there's

1157
00:56:37,813 --> 00:56:40,693
Speaker 3: just the selection on the plane wasn't to my liking.

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00:56:41,253 --> 00:56:44,453
Speaker 3: So I did that thing where I subscribed to Apple

1159
00:56:44,533 --> 00:56:47,573
Speaker 3: TV and I downloaded the full series of Slow Horses,

1160
00:56:47,693 --> 00:56:49,693
Speaker 3: the latest one, because I didn't want to wait. I

1161
00:56:49,733 --> 00:56:51,333
Speaker 3: didn't want to have to have it drip fed to

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00:56:51,413 --> 00:56:53,813
Speaker 3: me over the last you know, two months or six

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00:56:53,893 --> 00:56:56,493
Speaker 3: weeks or overlong. So I waited for the finale and

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00:56:56,573 --> 00:56:58,613
Speaker 3: then I downloaded the whole series so I could binge

1165
00:56:58,653 --> 00:57:01,693
Speaker 3: watch it in in one go. So good. Slow Horses

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00:57:01,813 --> 00:57:04,133
Speaker 3: is just so good. So if anyone hasn't seen Slow

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Speaker 3: Horses yet, I'm going to add your recommendations that I

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00:57:06,813 --> 00:57:08,613
Speaker 3: know you've talked about it before. You're a big fan

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00:57:08,653 --> 00:57:11,453
Speaker 3: as well. Tara, Hey, thank you so much. So those

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Speaker 3: shows once Again, Territory, Simone, Biles Rising Part two, and

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Speaker 3: Line of Duty are all streaming on Netflix. It is

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Speaker 3: just coming up to ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekend started It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News talksb.

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Speaker 6: Such a jam, is it not?

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Speaker 3: She needs no introduction, of course. Kylie Minogue has been

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Speaker 3: at the forefront of global pop music for nearly four decades.

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00:58:04,613 --> 00:58:07,853
Speaker 3: The Australian icon is hot off residency in Las Vegas.

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00:58:07,893 --> 00:58:09,813
Speaker 3: She's gearing up for a world tour, and she has

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Speaker 3: just dropped a brand new album. It's called Tension two.

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Speaker 3: It is her seventeenth album. It follows hot on the

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Speaker 3: heels of her previous album, Tension, so that hence the two.

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00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:25,893
Speaker 3: Like any self respecting dance queen, well dancing queen, Kylie

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00:58:25,933 --> 00:58:28,133
Speaker 3: obviously wants to keep the party going. So she is

1185
00:58:28,293 --> 00:58:32,453
Speaker 3: passed her unimpeachable nineties and two thousands run, but is

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00:58:32,533 --> 00:58:36,453
Speaker 3: still delivering great singles. And that last album, Tension was

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00:58:36,453 --> 00:58:38,933
Speaker 3: actually hailed as her best full length album in many years.

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00:58:39,093 --> 00:58:40,373
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have a bit of a listen to

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00:58:40,533 --> 00:58:42,813
Speaker 3: Tention too this morning. See how that stacks up. It's

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00:58:42,893 --> 00:58:45,693
Speaker 3: not like a deluxe version or anything like that. It

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00:58:45,813 --> 00:58:50,773
Speaker 3: is an entirely new record of glittering eighties nostalgia EDM

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00:58:51,053 --> 00:58:53,053
Speaker 3: style pop. So we're gonna play a bit of that

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00:58:53,413 --> 00:58:56,853
Speaker 3: before midday today. Thank you very much. Fair feedback this morning,

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00:58:56,893 --> 00:58:59,813
Speaker 3: all of your messages Jack, fabulous description of New York

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00:58:59,893 --> 00:59:02,373
Speaker 3: this morning. I visited for the first time last year

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Speaker 3: for someone who'd lived in London for ten years when

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Speaker 3: I was in my twenties, I was below and away.

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Speaker 3: It's far and away the greatest, most vibrant city I've

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Speaker 3: ever visited in my sixty three years. Thank you very

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Speaker 3: much for that. If you want to send us a message,

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00:59:14,253 --> 00:59:16,613
Speaker 3: ninety two. Ninety two is our text number. We're going

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Speaker 3: to stay in New York next.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 17: Social investment Minister Nicola Willis is with us. To my eye,

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00:59:25,973 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 17: it's got a slightly wooly sort of feel. I mean,

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00:59:28,293 --> 00:59:31,533
Speaker 17: what is social investment, what specifically.

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00:59:30,973 --> 00:59:33,973
Speaker 18: Is it and what changes well you think about basic concept.

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00:59:34,213 --> 00:59:37,613
Speaker 18: Everyone in New Zealand agrees, let's not have an ambulance

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00:59:37,653 --> 00:59:38,853
Speaker 18: at the bottom of the clost.

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Speaker 19: Let's build seas.

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Speaker 18: That's what social investment's about. It's about proper prevention and

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Speaker 18: proper early intervention so that people don't go on to

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Speaker 18: lead life of crime. Wealthare dependency, under achievement, cleaning all

1214
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Speaker 18: of that up and being much more pristical about what

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00:59:54,733 --> 00:59:56,293
Speaker 18: we invest in and whether it's working.

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Speaker 17: Back Tuesday from six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast of

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Speaker 17: the Rain, Driver of the Law Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five to eleven, Non News talk EDB. We were

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Speaker 3: saying at the start of the show this morning, it

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Speaker 3: takes a little bit of technical wizardry to be able

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01:00:09,573 --> 01:00:13,013
Speaker 3: to broadcast live from New York around the world, and

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Speaker 3: this week we've managed our technical wizardry with none us

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Speaker 3: than our tech spurt. Paul Stenhouse is with us this

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01:00:19,813 --> 01:00:22,413
Speaker 3: time every week. He is, of course based in New York,

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Speaker 3: He's been living there for years, so this morning I

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Speaker 3: had the great pleasure of going out for a cup

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Speaker 3: of coffee with him before he set us up for

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Speaker 3: our show. Good morning, Paul, I.

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Speaker 8: Know I saved the show with a USB adapter.

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Speaker 3: Who would have thought, Ah, I mean, you are always

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01:00:36,493 --> 01:00:39,533
Speaker 3: saving the day in some way, shape or form, But no,

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Speaker 3: it was wonderful to see you right before our show.

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Speaker 3: And for anyone who wants to see what Paul's backyard

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Speaker 3: looks like, I've put a photo up on our Facebook page,

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Speaker 3: So go and search out Jack Tame on Facebook or

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01:00:50,253 --> 01:00:52,133
Speaker 3: go to Jacktame dot com and you will be able

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01:00:52,173 --> 01:00:55,493
Speaker 3: to see Paul and I just minutes before the show

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01:00:55,573 --> 01:00:58,013
Speaker 3: started this morning, catching up with one of the most

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01:00:58,093 --> 01:01:01,773
Speaker 3: incredible views in the world. Anyway, another week, Paul and

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01:01:02,013 --> 01:01:05,613
Speaker 3: more AI advancement. So we've got the new claud AI

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01:01:05,813 --> 01:01:09,493
Speaker 3: being released, but a crazy powerful AI is apparently just

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01:01:09,613 --> 01:01:10,133
Speaker 3: months away.

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Speaker 8: YEA, So Chat GPT, the company that started at all,

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01:01:14,173 --> 01:01:17,933
Speaker 8: can you believe not even two years ago? Says well,

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01:01:17,933 --> 01:01:20,453
Speaker 8: there's some reporting that says that they are going to

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01:01:20,533 --> 01:01:24,253
Speaker 8: be releasing a new model, which is apparently code named o'riyan,

1247
01:01:24,933 --> 01:01:28,293
Speaker 8: in December, so that'll be about two years since this

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Speaker 8: thing launched. It's going to be Chat GPT maybe five.

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Speaker 8: We're currently at Chat GPT four.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 8: This is big though, because if this reporting is true,

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Speaker 8: they say it's going to be one hundred times more

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01:01:43,653 --> 01:01:48,493
Speaker 8: powerful than the current GPT four. One hundred times more powerful?

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Speaker 3: Can I say that again?

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Speaker 10: That is crazy.

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Speaker 8: They're going to launch it a little bit differently though, previously,

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Speaker 8: than when they've had a new model as they call them,

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01:01:57,813 --> 01:02:00,013
Speaker 8: come out, they put them straight into the latest chat

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Speaker 8: GPT software. They're going to do it a little bit

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Speaker 8: differently in the sense that they're going to give it

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Speaker 8: to their paying partners using their APIs first. So these

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Speaker 8: are the folks who are building honestly whole businesses on

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Speaker 8: top of chat GPT's business.

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Speaker 7: It's big.

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Speaker 8: It needs to work because they just closed a wait

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Speaker 8: for it, six point six billion dollar funding round and

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Speaker 8: they're working to restructure themselves now as a for profit company.

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Speaker 8: They currently are not for profit. So maybe instead of

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Speaker 8: open AI, do we think it'll be closed AI.

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Speaker 3: It's so interesting. So I mean, in real terms, what

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Speaker 3: does one hundred times more powerful than chat GPT four

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Speaker 3: actually mean? Like, if I'm going on too chatgbt dot

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Speaker 3: com or using the app, how different does it look

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Speaker 3: to me?

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Speaker 8: I think faster, it's probably going to know more, it's

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Speaker 8: going to probably sound a little smarter. I mean when

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Speaker 8: you think about what these AI tools can do, right,

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01:03:00,973 --> 01:03:05,853
Speaker 8: they scan text and they know information from that text.

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Speaker 8: So you think, if it's going to be one hundred

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Speaker 8: times more powerful, if it can scan all of the

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Speaker 8: laws of the land, all of the past cases, it's

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Speaker 8: going to be a significantly smarter quote unquote lawyer and

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01:03:18,293 --> 01:03:22,453
Speaker 8: give maybe better legal advice or defenses or whatever you

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Speaker 8: want to use it for think of the same thing

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Speaker 8: about software engineers.

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Speaker 14: If it can go and it can scan.

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Speaker 8: Code bases of current applications, it's going to know so

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Speaker 8: much more about those code bases, and it's going to

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Speaker 8: get to do more. It's going to do it faster,

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Speaker 8: and it's going to just the here and seem smarter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's already remarkable what it can do in

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Speaker 3: terms of coding, right Like, it's just just just crazy

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Speaker 3: what AI is able to achieve just now in the

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Speaker 3: latest Claude model is doing just that. Meanwhile, Adobe says

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Speaker 3: that artists actually need to get on board the AI bandwagon.

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Speaker 3: I thought AI and artistry did not go hand in hand.

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Speaker 4: No they don't.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 8: There's quite a backlash actually to that tech in the

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Speaker 8: whole creative community of all all sorts of artists, whether

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Speaker 8: they be painters or whether they be video editors. But

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Speaker 8: this VP who looks after all of the generative AI

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Speaker 8: at Adobe says, these artists, Jack, they are not going

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Speaker 8: to be successful in this new world without using it.

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Speaker 8: It basically says, get on board or you're going to

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Speaker 8: get left in the dust. But here's something that's interesting.

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Speaker 8: He did go on to say that human creativity will

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Speaker 8: still be a critical part and that there will be

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Speaker 8: a thirst for artists who do things by hand. So

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Speaker 8: maybe it's more that you should do the AI for

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Speaker 8: things just for fun and maybe there or for work

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Speaker 8: and then maybe do something that's may be a little

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Speaker 8: more artistic, for something that's a little more meaningful to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ah, that's interesting. A it's going to be so disruptive.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Paul. We appreciate your time. Pau

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Speaker 3: Standhouse is our text Bert and My coffee date this

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Speaker 3: afternoon in Manhattan before eleven o'clock. We're in the garden.

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Speaker 3: We're going to catch up with Rude climb Passed, who's

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Speaker 3: got tips on how to sort out any webbing clothes

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01:05:13,053 --> 01:05:14,653
Speaker 3: moths you've got at your place. These are a bit

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01:05:14,653 --> 01:05:16,413
Speaker 3: of a problem about this time of year. He's just

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01:05:16,453 --> 01:05:18,533
Speaker 3: discovered a couple of his place, so he's going to

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Speaker 3: give us his top tips for that. Next up, though,

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Speaker 3: our money man with advice on getting the best deal

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Speaker 3: when buying a property. Right now, it's twenty to eleven

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Speaker 3: you with Jack Tame. This is Newstalk zb.

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Speaker 2: NO live from the US.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame with VPWRE dot co

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Speaker 1: dot NZ for high quality Supplements NEWSTALKSB.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen to eleven, Non News Talks EDB. It's really interesting

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Speaker 3: to look at a lot of the polling coming out

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Speaker 3: of the US at the moment, because no one anywhere

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Speaker 3: seems all that confident in it.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: If you compare the poles at the moment, especially across

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Speaker 3: the electoral college, so you look at those swing states

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Speaker 3: or those battleground states that are all important for the

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Speaker 3: US election, Karmala Harris is in a worse position than

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden was polling at this time four years ago,

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Speaker 3: and a worse position Hillary Clinton was polling at eight

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Speaker 3: years ago. Now, there are a couple of ways to

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Speaker 3: interpret that. Number One, you can go, oh, well, she's

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Speaker 3: definitely in a worse position. But there is also a

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Speaker 3: theory going around, and I mean, this might just be

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01:06:21,533 --> 01:06:24,933
Speaker 3: wishful thinking on behalf of the Democrats that the polsters

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Speaker 3: are so aware of under reporting Donald Trump's support that

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Speaker 3: actually they have overcorrected in their various polling models. So

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Speaker 3: when they look at the polls right now, they're saying, oh, well, actually,

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Speaker 3: you know, we always know that Trump does a little

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Speaker 3: bit better than his support from the raw data suggests,

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Speaker 3: so we're going to give him a couple of extra

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Speaker 3: percentage points, and what do you know, it's effectively a

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Speaker 3: toss up. So there's kind of two schools of thought

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Speaker 3: at the moment. One is that Donald Trump is looking

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Speaker 3: pretty good and maybe Carmala Harris isn't doing as well

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Speaker 3: as her predecessors. The second school of thought, though, is

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Speaker 3: that the polsters have overcorrected. No one's of course going

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Speaker 3: to know until after November six but it's going to

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Speaker 3: be fascinating to see how that turns out. Right now

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Speaker 3: sixteen to eleven, in time to catch up with our

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Speaker 3: money guy, resident economists at Opie's Partners, Ed McKnight is

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Speaker 3: with us this morning.

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Speaker 5: Gol to Ed get a jack.

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Speaker 19: Nice to speak to you, Yeah, nice.

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Speaker 3: To be speaking to you. You've got tips for us

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Speaker 3: this morning on getting the best deal when buying a property,

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Speaker 3: and given for most of us is the largest or

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Speaker 3: the single most substantial purchase we will make in our

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Speaker 3: entire lives, this is one of those times you really

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Speaker 3: want to make sure you get the best deal available.

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Speaker 3: So let's start off with like a negotiation. What would

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Speaker 3: you say people need to think about if they're going

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Speaker 3: into a negotiation to buy a property.

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Speaker 19: Well, the first thing is, if you really want to

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Speaker 19: get a good deal and you're negotiating, you need to

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Speaker 19: be prepared to walk away. What I see happens far

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Speaker 19: too many times with people who want to buy a

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Speaker 19: house is they turn up to the open home, they

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Speaker 19: fall in love with the property. One part that says

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Speaker 19: to the other one, I really want that house, and

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Speaker 19: then that weeken see overall negotiating positions, because then you're saying, actually,

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Speaker 19: we're just gonna We're willing to keep increasing our bid

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Speaker 19: or increasing our offer to be able to get the

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Speaker 19: house without being prepared to walk away. And I think

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Speaker 19: that falling in love with the house kind of syndrome,

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Speaker 19: if I can call it that, jack. It leads people

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Speaker 19: to say, I'm only going to look at this one

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Speaker 19: house and there's not going to be anything else that's

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Speaker 19: perfect for me. And in fact, it's funny that we

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Speaker 19: should be talking about this today because right now I'm

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Speaker 19: parked up in Mission Bay. I've got my family and

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Speaker 19: the car. We're off to look at open homes. And

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Speaker 19: what I keep reminding my fiance is there are lots

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Speaker 19: of houses out there if we fall in love with

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Speaker 19: one and we don't get the price that we want,

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Speaker 19: we've got to be willing to walk away. And I'll

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Speaker 19: tell you one other story which actually starts well before

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Speaker 19: the negotiation, and it's a good reminder from when I

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Speaker 19: was about twelve years old, I remember my mother selling

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Speaker 19: her house down in Harward in South Tararaanuky and she's

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Speaker 19: talking to a local real estate agent. Now this is

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Speaker 19: back when houses like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 19: back in South Tararamukey. And the agent said to the mother,

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Speaker 19: how much you want for the house and she said, oh,

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Speaker 19: I'm seeing other houses being advertised around that two hundred

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01:09:12,013 --> 01:09:15,613
Speaker 19: and fifty thousand dollar. Bark And Carroll, the real estate agent, said,

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Speaker 19: don't compare your house to what's on the market. Compare

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Speaker 19: it to what's sold.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: This is a really.

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Speaker 19: Important lesson for home buyers because it's very easy to

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Speaker 19: go on to grade me, to go onto one roof

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01:09:27,773 --> 01:09:30,493
Speaker 19: to Conto real Estate dot Co dot NZ and get

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Speaker 19: a little bit disheartened when you see these really high

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Speaker 19: asking prices and cvs. And I've been doing this myself recently,

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Speaker 19: so this is a do as I do not just

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Speaker 19: as I say, but go on to one roof, go

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01:09:43,853 --> 01:09:45,853
Speaker 19: on to homestock code dot nz and there are these

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01:09:45,973 --> 01:09:49,133
Speaker 19: really interesting map features where you can just look at

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Speaker 19: not what's on the market, but what has recently sold.

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01:09:52,253 --> 01:09:55,453
Speaker 19: So I would go through individually looking at the houses

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01:09:55,493 --> 01:09:59,693
Speaker 19: that are selling, looking at the sales prices and saying, okay,

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Speaker 19: would I be happy with that price, because then you

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01:10:02,013 --> 01:10:04,653
Speaker 19: get a sense of not what vendors are wanting, but

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01:10:04,973 --> 01:10:08,173
Speaker 19: actually what is selling. And one other thing that's fascinating

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Speaker 19: is just letting yourself ignore the CV sometimes. So that's

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Speaker 19: the council value, our capital valuation, or the GV. Now

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01:10:15,453 --> 01:10:19,253
Speaker 19: remember in Auckland, those gvs were set back in June

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01:10:19,533 --> 01:10:22,173
Speaker 19: twenty twenty one, so they're over three years old now,

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Speaker 19: and at the moment, on average properties across Auckland there's

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Speaker 19: something about ten percent under CV. But in some of

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Speaker 19: the suburbs that I'm looking at right now, there are

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Speaker 19: some properties that are selling thirty three percent under GV,

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01:10:34,893 --> 01:10:37,733
Speaker 19: and there are some that are selling at GV. Now

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Speaker 19: that doesn't mean that there are some people who are

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Speaker 19: negotiating spectacular deals, but it can also mean that those

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01:10:43,533 --> 01:10:46,013
Speaker 19: gvs are way off. So when you're going out and

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01:10:46,053 --> 01:10:48,573
Speaker 19: you're looking to buy a property, don't just look at

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01:10:48,613 --> 01:10:51,533
Speaker 19: the GV. Don't just look at the arson price, change

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Speaker 19: your map, filters on one roof, or trade your homes

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01:10:54,093 --> 01:10:56,973
Speaker 19: or credit and said, look at what properties are selling for,

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01:10:57,333 --> 01:10:59,573
Speaker 19: because then you're an informed consumer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is such such good advice. I'll tell you

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01:11:02,733 --> 01:11:05,013
Speaker 3: what though, it's hard, easier said than done, Like, don't

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01:11:05,093 --> 01:11:07,093
Speaker 3: fall in love with the property. I think all been there.

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01:11:07,333 --> 01:11:08,813
Speaker 3: You walk through the front gate and you're like, oh

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01:11:08,853 --> 01:11:11,133
Speaker 3: my god, I'll do anything than this place, Like there'll

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01:11:11,173 --> 01:11:14,253
Speaker 3: never be a house as perfect as this. What about conditions?

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01:11:14,493 --> 01:11:16,253
Speaker 3: Are there any conditions that you should be attaching to

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01:11:16,333 --> 01:11:17,093
Speaker 3: your offer? Do you think?

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01:11:17,973 --> 01:11:19,973
Speaker 19: Well, the main thing that we always say is if

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01:11:20,053 --> 01:11:22,573
Speaker 19: you want a low price, and price is one of

1453
01:11:22,653 --> 01:11:26,013
Speaker 19: your most important factors when you are looking to buy

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01:11:26,053 --> 01:11:28,933
Speaker 19: the property. If in that mindset, then the best thing

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01:11:29,013 --> 01:11:32,213
Speaker 19: to do was have a very very clean deal. So

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01:11:32,493 --> 01:11:34,693
Speaker 19: before you put in that offer, if you can tick

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01:11:34,773 --> 01:11:37,533
Speaker 19: off the LIMB report, if you can tick off solicitor's

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01:11:37,573 --> 01:11:40,373
Speaker 19: approval of the contract, if you can tack off finance

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01:11:40,453 --> 01:11:43,093
Speaker 19: and say I'm going to make my offer subject to

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01:11:43,493 --> 01:11:46,613
Speaker 19: lawyer's approval, and nothing else. Then you're going to be

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01:11:46,693 --> 01:11:49,213
Speaker 19: in a really strong position because then the seller is

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01:11:49,253 --> 01:11:52,373
Speaker 19: going to say, I've got lots of confidence that this

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01:11:52,573 --> 01:11:54,373
Speaker 19: deal is going to go ahead. And in fact, my

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01:11:54,493 --> 01:11:56,173
Speaker 19: sister in law who's sitting in the back of the

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01:11:56,253 --> 01:11:58,773
Speaker 19: car was selling your house. Well probably I'm just about

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01:11:58,773 --> 01:12:01,493
Speaker 19: a year or two ago. She had two offers. One

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01:12:01,653 --> 01:12:04,253
Speaker 19: was a cleaner offer that was a lower price, very

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01:12:04,293 --> 01:12:06,533
Speaker 19: few conditions on it. Then there was one it was

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01:12:06,573 --> 01:12:09,213
Speaker 19: fifty thousand dollars more but had a couple more conditions.

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01:12:09,253 --> 01:12:12,093
Speaker 19: You know, somebody needed to sell their house, somebody needs

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01:12:12,093 --> 01:12:14,133
Speaker 19: to go to the lawyers, somebody needed to get finance,

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Speaker 19: all of those things. She took the lover offer because

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01:12:16,573 --> 01:12:19,853
Speaker 19: she had more confidence that that deal was going to

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01:12:19,893 --> 01:12:21,973
Speaker 19: go ahead and she's going to be able to move on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is such good advice. Thank you, Ed, and

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01:12:25,253 --> 01:12:28,093
Speaker 3: good luck in your search. Let's just hope that when

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01:12:28,133 --> 01:12:30,373
Speaker 3: you do find that dream house, of course one that

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01:12:30,413 --> 01:12:32,293
Speaker 3: you would still be willing to walk away from that.

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01:12:32,413 --> 01:12:34,253
Speaker 3: The vendors have been listening to you this morning, so

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01:12:34,373 --> 01:12:36,213
Speaker 3: they know that you are willing to walk away and

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01:12:36,253 --> 01:12:38,733
Speaker 3: you're going to be a tough negotiator. Ed McKnight, now

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01:12:38,933 --> 01:12:41,973
Speaker 3: resident economist at Opie's Partners. Thank you so much. Right

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01:12:42,053 --> 01:12:43,893
Speaker 3: now it is eleven to eleven. You were Jack Tame

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01:12:43,933 --> 01:12:44,773
Speaker 3: on Newstalks, he'd be.

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01:12:46,333 --> 01:12:49,933
Speaker 2: Going with still Sharp don't Best their biggest spring sale.

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Speaker 3: Ever, aw Man in the garden. There's Rude climb fasties

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Speaker 3: with us this morning, Kilder Rude Jack.

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Speaker 4: You have you seen have you seen those little moss recently?

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01:12:59,973 --> 01:13:02,653
Speaker 3: Because I have the little what are they called the

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01:13:02,973 --> 01:13:05,973
Speaker 3: Tinniola bisileela.

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01:13:05,813 --> 01:13:16,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, yellow biselliella, which is yeah, you've got espaniolare, so yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's the one. It's also known as the webbing clothes

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Speaker 4: w Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's a least sort of glamorous name, really, isn't it. Yeah?

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01:13:22,813 --> 01:13:26,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, But it tells you exactly what it does. The

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01:13:26,573 --> 01:13:29,373
Speaker 4: caterpillars make little webs in your carpets and in your

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Speaker 4: clothes and all that sort of stuff. And the moss

1498
01:13:31,573 --> 01:13:36,053
Speaker 4: that comes out there's a tiny, very beautiful yellowish moth

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01:13:36,493 --> 01:13:41,773
Speaker 4: with a gorgeous orange headdo which its retely true. And

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01:13:42,013 --> 01:13:44,333
Speaker 4: I used to see them in the Netherlands because they

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01:13:44,373 --> 01:13:47,293
Speaker 4: were there too, mucking around in clothes and things like that.

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01:13:47,773 --> 01:13:50,613
Speaker 4: But when you think about it, why does the moss

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01:13:50,893 --> 01:13:55,533
Speaker 4: start specializing starting to eat your clothes. Yeah, well it's

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01:13:55,653 --> 01:14:01,053
Speaker 4: very simple. If you have you ever eaten keratin h I.

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01:14:01,133 --> 01:14:03,373
Speaker 3: Mean not that I know of, I mean keratins and

1506
01:14:03,493 --> 01:14:07,373
Speaker 3: here right, that's right, yeah, and it's.

1507
01:14:07,333 --> 01:14:11,133
Speaker 4: And it's in wool, and it's in say sheets things,

1508
01:14:11,173 --> 01:14:14,093
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So when an animal dies

1509
01:14:14,173 --> 01:14:17,973
Speaker 4: in the forest, there's always something there that will clean

1510
01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:20,733
Speaker 4: the corpse and that you know what I mean. And

1511
01:14:20,973 --> 01:14:23,693
Speaker 4: this is the specialist that does all the carat and

1512
01:14:23,813 --> 01:14:26,653
Speaker 4: type stuff. So they came into our houses a long

1513
01:14:26,693 --> 01:14:28,893
Speaker 4: long time ago said, looked, there's a dead sheep on

1514
01:14:28,973 --> 01:14:31,133
Speaker 4: the floor, and you don't worry about the thing. I'll

1515
01:14:31,253 --> 01:14:33,853
Speaker 4: clean this up for you. I'll clean this up for

1516
01:14:33,933 --> 01:14:36,093
Speaker 4: you real quick. And that's exactly what happened.

1517
01:14:36,173 --> 01:14:38,253
Speaker 3: The problem is that you hit don't have well actually

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01:14:38,293 --> 01:14:40,173
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for you, Rode, but most

1519
01:14:40,213 --> 01:14:42,413
Speaker 3: of us don't have did sheep lying around in our

1520
01:14:42,533 --> 01:14:45,213
Speaker 3: land rooms. We instead might have some wool carpets.

1521
01:14:45,933 --> 01:14:48,733
Speaker 4: Well, that's the point. So it is an absolute great

1522
01:14:48,813 --> 01:14:52,253
Speaker 4: adaptation from those little moths. And Julie usually finds them

1523
01:14:52,333 --> 01:14:54,573
Speaker 4: when she finds at this time of the evidence in

1524
01:14:54,693 --> 01:14:58,933
Speaker 4: a fancy clothes cupboard. You know, I immediately get the question,

1525
01:14:59,453 --> 01:15:02,453
Speaker 4: when's the last time you sprayed their favorite.

1526
01:15:02,013 --> 01:15:05,413
Speaker 5: Habitat do something?

1527
01:15:06,733 --> 01:15:07,213
Speaker 19: So what I do?

1528
01:15:07,333 --> 01:15:08,973
Speaker 4: Then, Z I go to Safe Works, which is a

1529
01:15:09,013 --> 01:15:12,653
Speaker 4: company that is a safety company in Auckland crostis in Wellington,

1530
01:15:13,213 --> 01:15:15,933
Speaker 4: and they had a wonderful aerosol ken which contains of

1531
01:15:15,973 --> 01:15:19,133
Speaker 4: pro retroy, which I actually worked on when I was

1532
01:15:19,253 --> 01:15:22,493
Speaker 4: younger at the Ministry of Anger and fisheads. Oh no, sorry,

1533
01:15:22,573 --> 01:15:27,853
Speaker 4: math whatever, And yeah, we were working on forensis spraying

1534
01:15:27,973 --> 01:15:32,413
Speaker 4: aircraft with a wonderful long lasting material that kills a

1535
01:15:32,453 --> 01:15:35,453
Speaker 4: lot of different insects, including this one. And so if

1536
01:15:35,533 --> 01:15:39,293
Speaker 4: you have this particular both then you see them especially

1537
01:15:39,413 --> 01:15:42,653
Speaker 4: in christ He go to Safe Works. Okay, Safe Works

1538
01:15:42,693 --> 01:15:44,693
Speaker 4: with an X that's on the on the x alf.

1539
01:15:44,893 --> 01:15:46,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to put up a good photo of

1540
01:15:47,013 --> 01:15:49,093
Speaker 3: you in the plane as well doing the same thing.

1541
01:15:50,053 --> 01:15:53,213
Speaker 4: Man, I was only twenty five or so like that.

1542
01:15:53,493 --> 01:15:55,613
Speaker 4: I can't read by how long? A bit yeah, a

1543
01:15:55,693 --> 01:15:57,813
Speaker 4: bit older maybe, but yeah, that's what I used to do.

1544
01:15:57,973 --> 01:16:01,573
Speaker 4: Spray that stuff to stop mosquitoes and things like that

1545
01:16:01,693 --> 01:16:04,213
Speaker 4: coming into the country. That was a real quarantine job.

1546
01:16:04,733 --> 01:16:05,293
Speaker 5: So there you are.

1547
01:16:07,053 --> 01:16:10,533
Speaker 4: And while we're at this, same particular material can be

1548
01:16:10,773 --> 01:16:12,413
Speaker 4: used to control house borer.

1549
01:16:13,093 --> 01:16:16,853
Speaker 3: Oh can It isn't the same the same spray from.

1550
01:16:16,733 --> 01:16:17,533
Speaker 6: Space to safe work.

1551
01:16:18,453 --> 01:16:20,533
Speaker 4: It's exactly the same activity ingredient.

1552
01:16:20,813 --> 01:16:22,733
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so this is the sort of.

1553
01:16:22,773 --> 01:16:24,693
Speaker 4: Questions you get at this down over the year as well.

1554
01:16:25,013 --> 01:16:28,773
Speaker 4: And house borer are starting usually late in November, So

1555
01:16:28,933 --> 01:16:32,253
Speaker 4: spray roughly late November if you've got any any housebor

1556
01:16:32,373 --> 01:16:35,133
Speaker 4: in your house, and then in December when they mate

1557
01:16:35,253 --> 01:16:37,853
Speaker 4: and they aches, you'll have them down before they think

1558
01:16:37,933 --> 01:16:38,653
Speaker 4: of anything else.

1559
01:16:38,933 --> 01:16:41,933
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Okay, thank you so much for you're very good. Yeah,

1560
01:16:42,093 --> 01:16:44,493
Speaker 3: you can get to get rid of two unwanted house

1561
01:16:44,653 --> 01:16:46,693
Speaker 3: gifts at once, I suppose.

1562
01:16:46,653 --> 01:16:49,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the price of for the price of one aerosolt.

1563
01:16:49,133 --> 01:16:52,893
Speaker 3: There you are very easy, very good. Thanks. That is

1564
01:16:52,973 --> 01:16:55,173
Speaker 3: Rude climbhouse down man in the garden. I'm going to

1565
01:16:55,173 --> 01:16:57,773
Speaker 3: make sure we put those photos up on the news talks.

1566
01:16:57,773 --> 01:17:01,773
Speaker 3: He'd be website as well, alongside all of Rude's tips

1567
01:17:01,853 --> 01:17:04,413
Speaker 3: for getting rid of them at your place and safe works.

1568
01:17:04,453 --> 01:17:09,173
Speaker 3: It's safe x is the one that he has that

1569
01:17:09,293 --> 01:17:13,093
Speaker 3: really reckons has that really effective product. I was saying

1570
01:17:13,413 --> 01:17:15,573
Speaker 3: in the show how amazing it is to be broadcasting

1571
01:17:15,653 --> 01:17:18,853
Speaker 3: from New York and enjoying all of the various culinary

1572
01:17:19,013 --> 01:17:21,333
Speaker 3: delights that New York has on offer. The one thing

1573
01:17:21,413 --> 01:17:25,973
Speaker 3: I am perhaps not enjoying is the exchange rate, oh

1574
01:17:26,813 --> 01:17:29,973
Speaker 3: sixty cents for a US dollar. So when I got

1575
01:17:30,013 --> 01:17:31,853
Speaker 3: on the other night, went out, had dinner, and then

1576
01:17:31,933 --> 01:17:33,973
Speaker 3: we went to a bakery that was opened until midnight,

1577
01:17:33,973 --> 01:17:36,493
Speaker 3: because of course it's New York. Two pieces of cake.

1578
01:17:36,933 --> 01:17:41,333
Speaker 3: Two pieces of cake cost me forty New Zealand dollars.

1579
01:17:41,893 --> 01:17:43,933
Speaker 3: So yeah, you kind of want to pick and choose

1580
01:17:44,053 --> 01:17:46,173
Speaker 3: when you're going out to the fancy restaurant. To say

1581
01:17:46,213 --> 01:17:48,733
Speaker 3: the least. After eleven o'clock this morning, we're going to

1582
01:17:48,813 --> 01:17:51,333
Speaker 3: catch up with our sustainability expert. Given the weather is

1583
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:54,413
Speaker 3: getting warm. She's got her top tips on sustainable sun

1584
01:17:54,493 --> 01:17:57,933
Speaker 3: block options. It is almost eleven o'clock though. I am

1585
01:17:58,013 --> 01:18:00,933
Speaker 3: Jack Tame broadcasting to you live this morning, a special

1586
01:18:00,973 --> 01:18:03,453
Speaker 3: show out of New York City, the greatest city on Earth.

1587
01:18:04,013 --> 01:18:05,293
Speaker 3: This is Newstalk ZV.

1588
01:18:08,973 --> 01:18:09,893
Speaker 2: His week is ending.

1589
01:18:10,213 --> 01:18:14,013
Speaker 1: Your weekend is just studying live from the US. It's

1590
01:18:14,093 --> 01:18:18,053
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings for Jack Team with Depeward on Codon INSID

1591
01:18:18,373 --> 01:18:19,773
Speaker 1: the high quality supplements.

1592
01:18:20,053 --> 01:18:20,933
Speaker 2: News Talk said, be.

1593
01:18:43,773 --> 01:18:46,933
Speaker 3: Good, welcome to news Talks. He'd be if you were

1594
01:18:46,973 --> 01:18:49,373
Speaker 3: just turning on the radio this morning. We have missed you.

1595
01:18:49,653 --> 01:18:52,893
Speaker 3: Broadcasting live from New York City. I'm here working for

1596
01:18:53,013 --> 01:18:54,813
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks in the build up to

1597
01:18:55,053 --> 01:18:59,333
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four presidential election. A fascinating time to

1598
01:18:59,453 --> 01:19:01,733
Speaker 3: be in the United States. Now before the day, today,

1599
01:19:01,733 --> 01:19:04,533
Speaker 3: we're going to play you new music from Australia's highest

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01:19:04,773 --> 01:19:07,773
Speaker 3: ever or highest selling fear female recording artist. I think

1601
01:19:07,813 --> 01:19:10,493
Speaker 3: I've got that right, highest selling female recording artist. Yes,

1602
01:19:10,813 --> 01:19:12,893
Speaker 3: it is, of course, Kylie Minogue. She sold more than

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01:19:12,973 --> 01:19:17,533
Speaker 3: eighty million records worldwide. And this is kind of interesting,

1604
01:19:17,613 --> 01:19:19,613
Speaker 3: but she has just been named one of the most

1605
01:19:19,653 --> 01:19:23,773
Speaker 3: influential people in the world by Time Magazine. I maybe

1606
01:19:23,813 --> 01:19:26,173
Speaker 3: would have thought that could have been the case fifteen

1607
01:19:26,213 --> 01:19:28,693
Speaker 3: years ago, twenty years ago. Maybe, But anyway, she's probably

1608
01:19:28,693 --> 01:19:30,453
Speaker 3: had it a few times, to be perfectly honest, But

1609
01:19:30,493 --> 01:19:33,933
Speaker 3: she's just been, let's say, renamed one of Time Magazine's

1610
01:19:33,973 --> 01:19:36,293
Speaker 3: most influential people in the world. She's got a brand

1611
01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:39,733
Speaker 3: new album. Her last album was called Tension. This album's

1612
01:19:39,733 --> 01:19:43,373
Speaker 3: called Tension two. Tension the first album of the Tension

1613
01:19:43,453 --> 01:19:47,573
Speaker 3: series was really well received, like really catchy tunes on

1614
01:19:47,613 --> 01:19:50,173
Speaker 3: their classic Kylie. So very much looking forward to having

1615
01:19:50,213 --> 01:19:53,333
Speaker 3: a bit of a listen to Tension two before twelve

1616
01:19:53,333 --> 01:19:56,173
Speaker 3: o'clock today. Right now it is eight minutes past eleven

1617
01:19:57,133 --> 01:20:00,173
Speaker 3: Jack Team, and time to catch up with us sustainability

1618
01:20:00,213 --> 01:20:04,253
Speaker 3: commentator Kate All aka Ethically Kate. More than a good

1619
01:20:04,333 --> 01:20:07,213
Speaker 3: morning suns out, guns out, and that means that it

1620
01:20:07,333 --> 01:20:09,773
Speaker 3: is time for us to talk sustainable sunscreens because I

1621
01:20:09,813 --> 01:20:11,213
Speaker 3: feel like there are so many things you got to

1622
01:20:11,213 --> 01:20:13,053
Speaker 3: think about with sunscreen these days. Okay, so you've got

1623
01:20:13,133 --> 01:20:15,213
Speaker 3: to think about sustainability, you've also got to think about

1624
01:20:15,253 --> 01:20:19,813
Speaker 3: getting sunscreen that doesn't bleed when it's on your face,

1625
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:23,613
Speaker 3: because there are few things that are worse in summer

1626
01:20:23,853 --> 01:20:27,053
Speaker 3: than when your eyes sting from having running sunscreen. You

1627
01:20:27,133 --> 01:20:30,973
Speaker 3: know they're feeling, Yes, absolutely, that's the part. So does

1628
01:20:31,013 --> 01:20:33,653
Speaker 3: sustainability mean that you just have to accept you're going

1629
01:20:33,733 --> 01:20:35,773
Speaker 3: to have sunscreens that they're going to be bleeding into

1630
01:20:35,773 --> 01:20:36,173
Speaker 3: your eyes?

1631
01:20:36,893 --> 01:20:39,373
Speaker 15: To be honest, the sunscreens I have used for the

1632
01:20:39,413 --> 01:20:42,533
Speaker 15: last several years, which obviously more sustainably made and a

1633
01:20:42,613 --> 01:20:47,093
Speaker 15: better packaging are like the least bleedy sunscreen because they

1634
01:20:47,133 --> 01:20:50,293
Speaker 15: are a bit sicker. Okay, kind of compromise a little

1635
01:20:50,293 --> 01:20:53,253
Speaker 15: bit of the like they are a bit sicker, so

1636
01:20:54,293 --> 01:20:57,333
Speaker 15: you're may be potentially a little bit paler. Yes, you know,

1637
01:20:58,053 --> 01:21:00,853
Speaker 15: but you don't get that bleedy factor as much because

1638
01:21:01,293 --> 01:21:03,933
Speaker 15: a lot of that, you know, running sunscreen to your

1639
01:21:03,973 --> 01:21:08,093
Speaker 15: eye is because suns screens generally kind of the mainstream

1640
01:21:08,173 --> 01:21:11,133
Speaker 15: ones have a lot of water content and like different

1641
01:21:11,533 --> 01:21:15,093
Speaker 15: fillers and kind of yeah, a whole lot of stuff,

1642
01:21:15,213 --> 01:21:18,213
Speaker 15: which mean I can definitely tell a difference when you know,

1643
01:21:18,613 --> 01:21:21,933
Speaker 15: borrow my friend's sunscreen. That's not my classic kind of

1644
01:21:22,133 --> 01:21:25,493
Speaker 15: thicker paste, you one, it's just not as pleasant and stinging.

1645
01:21:25,573 --> 01:21:28,933
Speaker 15: You can you can tell the difference between good ingredients.

1646
01:21:28,613 --> 01:21:29,813
Speaker 2: And not so good.

1647
01:21:30,173 --> 01:21:32,413
Speaker 3: That's a that's great there, so we can be more

1648
01:21:32,453 --> 01:21:35,253
Speaker 3: sustainable and we can avoid having stinging eyes. Across somewhere.

1649
01:21:35,253 --> 01:21:36,653
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's a class line, I think.

1650
01:21:36,773 --> 01:21:38,493
Speaker 15: So I think it's been like a little kind of

1651
01:21:38,493 --> 01:21:42,413
Speaker 15: silver lining between yes, in my personal experience stopping to

1652
01:21:43,013 --> 01:21:46,493
Speaker 15: better sunscreens, but and it has had I've learned a

1653
01:21:46,613 --> 01:21:49,413
Speaker 15: lot about the sunscreen space just from a few friends

1654
01:21:49,453 --> 01:21:53,333
Speaker 15: who make sunscreen, and it's said business, and it's really

1655
01:21:53,533 --> 01:21:56,893
Speaker 15: complicated because, like you said, you're thinking about, Okay, is

1656
01:21:56,973 --> 01:21:59,173
Speaker 15: this actually good for my skin? You know, like we're

1657
01:21:59,213 --> 01:22:02,733
Speaker 15: putting the sunscreen on, should be putting it on relatively regularly,

1658
01:22:02,813 --> 01:22:06,053
Speaker 15: especially in our face. It's really kind of an intimate product.

1659
01:22:06,373 --> 01:22:10,013
Speaker 15: I think about is this good for our skin? What

1660
01:22:10,173 --> 01:22:12,653
Speaker 15: about you know, we're going into the ocean and we

1661
01:22:12,853 --> 01:22:18,133
Speaker 15: know that sunscreens can affect marine environment too, And then

1662
01:22:18,133 --> 01:22:19,293
Speaker 15: also the packaging as well.

1663
01:22:19,373 --> 01:22:19,933
Speaker 6: Right, a lot of.

1664
01:22:20,013 --> 01:22:26,013
Speaker 15: Sunscreens are in plastic tubes and basically non recyclable. So

1665
01:22:27,213 --> 01:22:31,813
Speaker 15: like without I'm not a chemist or like a sunscreen expert,

1666
01:22:31,893 --> 01:22:36,653
Speaker 15: though I'm really I've been diving in unintended to this

1667
01:22:37,253 --> 01:22:39,813
Speaker 15: topic a little bit more because it's so fascinating. But

1668
01:22:40,333 --> 01:22:42,653
Speaker 15: kind of the key basics for me is I avoid

1669
01:22:42,773 --> 01:22:49,293
Speaker 15: sunscreens with oxybenzone. And I always get this word wrong,

1670
01:22:49,813 --> 01:22:54,413
Speaker 15: but Optimo states, so there are two really common sunscreens

1671
01:22:54,453 --> 01:22:56,453
Speaker 15: because people check their sunscreens and out there are two

1672
01:22:56,533 --> 01:23:01,013
Speaker 15: common ingredients that and your sunscreen, which aren't really FDA

1673
01:23:01,213 --> 01:23:05,693
Speaker 15: proved and aren't great for our bodies. So looking out

1674
01:23:05,693 --> 01:23:08,293
Speaker 15: for ones, and there's plenty on the market which don't

1675
01:23:08,373 --> 01:23:12,853
Speaker 15: have those ingredients. So the main active ingredient in more

1676
01:23:13,013 --> 01:23:17,493
Speaker 15: s the same we made sunscreens is often zinc zinc oxide.

1677
01:23:18,253 --> 01:23:20,773
Speaker 15: Even then you'll see a lot of sunscreens, even some

1678
01:23:20,893 --> 01:23:24,333
Speaker 15: of my favorites that I use say reef safe, you know,

1679
01:23:24,493 --> 01:23:28,773
Speaker 15: ocean friendly. But there's studies coming out recently just saying, look,

1680
01:23:28,813 --> 01:23:31,453
Speaker 15: we actually don't know how zinc effects are coral reefs.

1681
01:23:31,973 --> 01:23:36,133
Speaker 15: Actually we can't say that it does or doesn't, and

1682
01:23:36,333 --> 01:23:40,853
Speaker 15: those terms like reef safe aren't regulated. So for me,

1683
01:23:40,973 --> 01:23:43,653
Speaker 15: it's more about, like I use sunscreen. I'll have you

1684
01:23:43,693 --> 01:23:46,893
Speaker 15: my favorites soon, but I use sunscreen like you know,

1685
01:23:46,973 --> 01:23:49,893
Speaker 15: on my face and as a kind of basic measure.

1686
01:23:49,973 --> 01:23:52,973
Speaker 15: But it's about covering up and staying in the shade

1687
01:23:53,053 --> 01:23:56,653
Speaker 15: and not actually it just relying on sunscreen, yeah, because

1688
01:23:56,693 --> 01:24:03,213
Speaker 15: we can't, Yeah, we don't know enough about what does

1689
01:24:03,293 --> 01:24:06,933
Speaker 15: and what doesn't affect marine life. So for me, sometimes

1690
01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:09,093
Speaker 15: I'll have a little dip and then I'll go sit

1691
01:24:09,173 --> 01:24:11,213
Speaker 15: in the shade and put on screen on then you know.

1692
01:24:11,573 --> 01:24:15,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's especially for people who have a complexion

1693
01:24:15,493 --> 01:24:17,493
Speaker 3: like you and I that's kind of important.

1694
01:24:17,613 --> 01:24:17,813
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1695
01:24:18,213 --> 01:24:21,493
Speaker 3: So okay, so that's a really critical point. Refsafe doesn't

1696
01:24:21,533 --> 01:24:23,373
Speaker 3: necessarily mean ref safe. That's kind of one of those

1697
01:24:23,413 --> 01:24:25,893
Speaker 3: things that everyone can just say or sometimes makes things

1698
01:24:25,973 --> 01:24:27,613
Speaker 3: look like they're better than they are. It's kind of

1699
01:24:27,653 --> 01:24:29,293
Speaker 3: like low fat, you know, you're like, well, hang on,

1700
01:24:30,773 --> 01:24:33,653
Speaker 3: so what do you recommend in terms of sunscreen brands?

1701
01:24:34,453 --> 01:24:37,333
Speaker 15: So I have done a lot of different sunscreen trials

1702
01:24:37,373 --> 01:24:39,213
Speaker 15: in the last few years, and my top kind of

1703
01:24:40,093 --> 01:24:43,413
Speaker 15: four favorites back to the Wild that's made in the

1704
01:24:43,453 --> 01:24:47,413
Speaker 15: South Island, but or some Q Family Goodbye Sunscreen that's

1705
01:24:47,493 --> 01:24:50,453
Speaker 15: really good, especially for people who are more like sporting

1706
01:24:50,493 --> 01:24:55,933
Speaker 15: and outdoors. My Sunshine and Midge Sunscreen. So most of

1707
01:24:55,973 --> 01:25:01,053
Speaker 15: those are also in like tins that can be recycled

1708
01:25:01,213 --> 01:25:05,493
Speaker 15: or reused repurposed as well. Ye and yeah, made by

1709
01:25:05,653 --> 01:25:07,933
Speaker 15: really cool local people, so we have options. You know,

1710
01:25:08,413 --> 01:25:12,773
Speaker 15: those are you know, very viable, and a lot of

1711
01:25:12,773 --> 01:25:16,133
Speaker 15: them much more cost effective these days too. And actually

1712
01:25:16,253 --> 01:25:20,213
Speaker 15: I think when people think about sustainable sunscreen, they think

1713
01:25:20,693 --> 01:25:22,973
Speaker 15: they just gotta, you know, put this like white paste

1714
01:25:23,013 --> 01:25:26,813
Speaker 15: on me and look like a geek at the Yeah. Firstly,

1715
01:25:27,053 --> 01:25:29,333
Speaker 15: like own it. My brother is really good. Actually he

1716
01:25:29,573 --> 01:25:32,653
Speaker 15: is like really strong colored like zinc kind of space.

1717
01:25:32,773 --> 01:25:35,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a like a cricketer in the nineties.

1718
01:25:35,653 --> 01:25:37,493
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, like you know, we're.

1719
01:25:37,333 --> 01:25:39,213
Speaker 15: Going to own this. This is our house. You know,

1720
01:25:39,373 --> 01:25:43,213
Speaker 15: the most stamable sunscreen you know, I think as the

1721
01:25:43,293 --> 01:25:46,053
Speaker 15: one that we use. You know, it's not sustainable to

1722
01:25:46,133 --> 01:25:50,653
Speaker 15: go out there and to yeah, be fried in the sunshine.

1723
01:25:50,773 --> 01:25:54,413
Speaker 15: So using those options, but then also staying in the shade,

1724
01:25:54,533 --> 01:25:57,613
Speaker 15: covering up and kind of staying out of that hole

1725
01:25:57,933 --> 01:25:59,493
Speaker 15: I need to tan kind of culture.

1726
01:26:00,493 --> 01:26:03,413
Speaker 3: Oh super, thank you so much, Kate, really appreciate that.

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01:26:03,653 --> 01:26:07,093
Speaker 3: Our sustainability commentator, Kate Hall. You can find her on

1728
01:26:07,213 --> 01:26:09,653
Speaker 3: all of the social media channels and she does have

1729
01:26:09,853 --> 01:26:12,413
Speaker 3: very interesting content. Actually it kind of makes you laugh,

1730
01:26:12,573 --> 01:26:15,133
Speaker 3: makes you think as well. You can find her by

1731
01:26:15,173 --> 01:26:18,093
Speaker 3: searching ethically, Kate, that's the easiest way to do it.

1732
01:26:18,373 --> 01:26:20,093
Speaker 3: In a couple of minutes on Newstalk ZB, we are

1733
01:26:20,133 --> 01:26:21,733
Speaker 3: going to take you from the bright lights and big

1734
01:26:21,813 --> 01:26:25,813
Speaker 3: dreams of New York City to Reefton and the Lewest past,

1735
01:26:25,893 --> 01:26:28,733
Speaker 3: two of the most beautiful parts of the South Island's

1736
01:26:28,733 --> 01:26:30,853
Speaker 3: West coast. Right now, it's quarter past eleven. You're a

1737
01:26:30,933 --> 01:26:32,453
Speaker 3: Jack Tame on news Doorg ZB.

1738
01:26:33,053 --> 01:26:37,253
Speaker 2: Travel with Wendy Wu tours, unique fully inclusive tours around

1739
01:26:37,333 --> 01:26:37,733
Speaker 2: the world.

1740
01:26:39,173 --> 01:26:41,013
Speaker 3: Well, you can't say we don't give you a variety

1741
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:44,013
Speaker 3: on Saturday mornings. That is the spice of life. Our

1742
01:26:44,053 --> 01:26:46,693
Speaker 3: travel correspondent Mike Yardley is here this morning, and Mike,

1743
01:26:46,773 --> 01:26:49,693
Speaker 3: I'm broadcasting from New York City, and this morning you're

1744
01:26:49,693 --> 01:26:52,213
Speaker 3: here to tell us about one of the most beautiful

1745
01:26:52,293 --> 01:26:53,973
Speaker 3: parts of alter it Or. And I want to be

1746
01:26:54,013 --> 01:26:56,853
Speaker 3: totally clear here, I am not bagging on Reethan and

1747
01:26:56,933 --> 01:27:00,213
Speaker 3: the Lewest past. I sincerely think that part of the

1748
01:27:00,333 --> 01:27:02,133
Speaker 3: kind of central South Island and the west coast of

1749
01:27:02,173 --> 01:27:06,133
Speaker 3: the South Island is incredible. But it's a contrast from

1750
01:27:06,173 --> 01:27:08,573
Speaker 3: man happen, you could say, just.

1751
01:27:08,893 --> 01:27:09,773
Speaker 5: Ever so slightly.

1752
01:27:09,893 --> 01:27:10,093
Speaker 1: Jack.

1753
01:27:10,213 --> 01:27:12,733
Speaker 13: Yes, good morning to you and New York. It's spend

1754
01:27:12,813 --> 01:27:15,453
Speaker 13: so great listening to you from the Big Apple. By

1755
01:27:15,493 --> 01:27:17,413
Speaker 13: the way, just before we talk about reef down, are

1756
01:27:17,493 --> 01:27:20,933
Speaker 13: you going to Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden.

1757
01:27:21,733 --> 01:27:24,773
Speaker 3: Well, I'm waiting to see exactly where we're going to

1758
01:27:24,813 --> 01:27:27,453
Speaker 3: be over the next couple of days because I'm actually

1759
01:27:27,533 --> 01:27:30,693
Speaker 3: first thing tomorrow morning, I am flying to Arizona, of

1760
01:27:30,773 --> 01:27:32,253
Speaker 3: all places, So I'm going to go and do some

1761
01:27:32,373 --> 01:27:36,053
Speaker 3: reporting in Arizona. I'm preparing myself for the thirty seven

1762
01:27:36,253 --> 01:27:39,093
Speaker 3: degrees that it's going to be in Arizona, and then

1763
01:27:39,573 --> 01:27:41,413
Speaker 3: I'm going to a couple of other spots this week

1764
01:27:41,453 --> 01:27:44,213
Speaker 3: as well. But it's really interesting they've been the candidates

1765
01:27:44,253 --> 01:27:48,653
Speaker 3: have been putting their plans out quite last minute because

1766
01:27:48,893 --> 01:27:52,093
Speaker 3: obviously they're getting like real time polling data and they're

1767
01:27:52,133 --> 01:27:54,853
Speaker 3: trying to work out where they might be vulnerable. But

1768
01:27:55,013 --> 01:27:57,133
Speaker 3: of course Madison Square Garden has been planned for a while.

1769
01:27:57,173 --> 01:27:59,453
Speaker 3: I've got a couple of mates who, in fact, I've

1770
01:27:59,453 --> 01:28:02,933
Speaker 3: actually I've got some of my really close friends over

1771
01:28:03,013 --> 01:28:06,533
Speaker 3: here are you know, very strong Donald Trump supporters and

1772
01:28:07,893 --> 01:28:10,293
Speaker 3: you know, and are really excited about seeing him there.

1773
01:28:10,293 --> 01:28:12,013
Speaker 3: He's it's funny though, he's been turning up at all

1774
01:28:12,053 --> 01:28:14,373
Speaker 3: these different sports events. Obviously when he goes to Madison

1775
01:28:14,373 --> 01:28:17,053
Speaker 3: Square Garden it's one of his rallies, but he's been

1776
01:28:17,093 --> 01:28:19,413
Speaker 3: turning up at these you know, at NFL games, at

1777
01:28:19,573 --> 01:28:23,533
Speaker 3: UFC games, so clearly he's trying to you know, get

1778
01:28:23,613 --> 01:28:25,853
Speaker 3: him with a certain demographic at some of those events.

1779
01:28:26,453 --> 01:28:29,333
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's that's gonna be. That's going to

1780
01:28:29,373 --> 01:28:34,773
Speaker 3: be something to behold. Yeah, and the funny thing is like, sorry,

1781
01:28:34,853 --> 01:28:37,893
Speaker 3: just the last point on this that people always think

1782
01:28:37,933 --> 01:28:41,093
Speaker 3: about New York as being a really like a Democrat

1783
01:28:41,213 --> 01:28:44,173
Speaker 3: kind of town, right, And it's true that like New

1784
01:28:44,253 --> 01:28:48,733
Speaker 3: York City definitely skews Democrats, but it's easy to forget

1785
01:28:49,173 --> 01:28:52,813
Speaker 3: how many million people live here and how many millions

1786
01:28:52,853 --> 01:28:56,293
Speaker 3: are actually Republican supporters and Trump supporters. So even here

1787
01:28:56,773 --> 01:29:00,173
Speaker 3: in the kind of heart of you know, left leaning

1788
01:29:00,253 --> 01:29:05,213
Speaker 3: Democrat voting America, there are literally millions of Trump supporters.

1789
01:29:05,293 --> 01:29:08,293
Speaker 3: So now I'm sure he will have no problem packing

1790
01:29:08,293 --> 01:29:11,933
Speaker 3: out Medicine Square Garden. To say the last, Yeah, Anyway,

1791
01:29:13,093 --> 01:29:15,133
Speaker 3: like I say, we're focusing on Reston this morning, and

1792
01:29:15,213 --> 01:29:20,213
Speaker 3: Reefton's reputation as a starring tourist town is not in dispute.

1793
01:29:20,733 --> 01:29:22,813
Speaker 3: But where is a new great place to stay?

1794
01:29:23,853 --> 01:29:27,653
Speaker 13: Well for you, Jack Post Usa, you will be needing

1795
01:29:27,693 --> 01:29:29,573
Speaker 13: a beer back at home, so I've got just the

1796
01:29:29,653 --> 01:29:33,413
Speaker 13: place for you. It's called the Brewer's Night In. And

1797
01:29:34,573 --> 01:29:38,813
Speaker 13: this is such a singular accommodation experience in Repton. It's

1798
01:29:38,853 --> 01:29:42,693
Speaker 13: a magnificent new addition to the town's amazing trobe of

1799
01:29:42,813 --> 01:29:46,573
Speaker 13: heritage treasures. The thing about it, it's like a siren

1800
01:29:46,693 --> 01:29:52,973
Speaker 13: too history a revitalized relic because it was Stuart Monteeth's cottage,

1801
01:29:53,733 --> 01:29:57,773
Speaker 13: so he was like a wealthy young chap The Alden

1802
01:29:57,853 --> 01:30:00,613
Speaker 13: reaped him in the eighteen seventies after making his fortune

1803
01:30:00,653 --> 01:30:03,013
Speaker 13: in the Australian goldfield, and what did he decide to

1804
01:30:03,093 --> 01:30:07,933
Speaker 13: do but become a beer brewer and a West Coast legion.

1805
01:30:09,053 --> 01:30:11,573
Speaker 13: And of course the Montese legacy continues today. But the

1806
01:30:11,693 --> 01:30:13,813
Speaker 13: thing about the cottage deck, it has just been so

1807
01:30:14,053 --> 01:30:19,373
Speaker 13: magnificently period restored, so there's lots of authentic original features.

1808
01:30:19,373 --> 01:30:22,813
Speaker 13: All of the handcut remove war timber is there, the

1809
01:30:22,973 --> 01:30:27,413
Speaker 13: brass and copper fittings, even the cast iron woodfire. So

1810
01:30:28,093 --> 01:30:30,853
Speaker 13: spending a night here it feels like you've traveled back

1811
01:30:30,893 --> 01:30:33,053
Speaker 13: in time to the nineteenth century and there are some

1812
01:30:33,253 --> 01:30:35,173
Speaker 13: very cool Monteths waiting for you in the fridge.

1813
01:30:35,893 --> 01:30:38,053
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, of course. I don't think it goes without

1814
01:30:38,053 --> 01:30:41,613
Speaker 3: saying I should think so despite all of the history

1815
01:30:41,693 --> 01:30:45,693
Speaker 3: and vintage features, is it comfortable. You're not sleeping in.

1816
01:30:45,773 --> 01:30:45,973
Speaker 20: Like a.

1817
01:30:47,693 --> 01:30:47,893
Speaker 2: Are you?

1818
01:30:48,573 --> 01:30:51,533
Speaker 13: No, not at all. I mean it's very cozy, very comfy.

1819
01:30:51,573 --> 01:30:56,213
Speaker 13: That woodfire, for example, is just so toasty. But they

1820
01:30:56,293 --> 01:30:59,613
Speaker 13: haven't gone berserk with the creechure comforts, which I think

1821
01:30:59,733 --> 01:31:03,173
Speaker 13: is really good because you do want the history to

1822
01:31:03,413 --> 01:31:07,893
Speaker 13: sing when you were there, and like very thoughtful touches,

1823
01:31:07,973 --> 01:31:12,213
Speaker 13: like this enormous bathtub in the bathroom, so you can

1824
01:31:12,333 --> 01:31:15,533
Speaker 13: just crack open a Montese. Have we soaken that bathtub.

1825
01:31:16,213 --> 01:31:19,333
Speaker 13: They've got this fabulous music room. It's such a cool touch.

1826
01:31:19,413 --> 01:31:21,933
Speaker 13: So they've got this vintage p and O and then

1827
01:31:22,133 --> 01:31:25,733
Speaker 13: a stereo with a cracking vinyl collection to reel in

1828
01:31:25,813 --> 01:31:29,693
Speaker 13: the years. But I just love the fact that you

1829
01:31:29,853 --> 01:31:33,853
Speaker 13: are spending the night or two in mister Montefe's cottage.

1830
01:31:33,853 --> 01:31:35,853
Speaker 13: I just think that is so special and it's only

1831
01:31:35,853 --> 01:31:38,813
Speaker 13: about three hundred bucks a night. The other really cool

1832
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:43,853
Speaker 13: thing is the owner is a big animal rescue devotee,

1833
01:31:44,213 --> 01:31:46,533
Speaker 13: so he has allowed you to brea so you can.

1834
01:31:46,453 --> 01:31:47,293
Speaker 6: Bring your pets with you.

1835
01:31:47,493 --> 01:31:49,853
Speaker 13: If you've got a dog, you're very welcome to bring

1836
01:31:49,893 --> 01:31:50,973
Speaker 13: your fairy friend along with you.

1837
01:31:51,853 --> 01:31:54,253
Speaker 3: Excellent. Yeah, that's great. Okay, So what else peaud your

1838
01:31:54,253 --> 01:31:55,133
Speaker 3: interest in reefing?

1839
01:31:55,773 --> 01:31:58,173
Speaker 13: Yeah, I was keen to see how the main Street

1840
01:31:58,293 --> 01:32:01,173
Speaker 13: Broadway was looking, because I've always loved how in the

1841
01:32:01,253 --> 01:32:04,013
Speaker 13: last ten years or so the movie set Goodlocks of

1842
01:32:04,093 --> 01:32:08,133
Speaker 13: that historic main street just continue to atom and that

1843
01:32:08,613 --> 01:32:11,733
Speaker 13: story continues. So the streetscape and Broadway at the moment

1844
01:32:12,493 --> 01:32:16,213
Speaker 13: is just looking so resplendent. A new arrival, for example,

1845
01:32:16,253 --> 01:32:20,453
Speaker 13: on the main street is step Tose Coffee Emporium and

1846
01:32:20,573 --> 01:32:23,853
Speaker 13: once again it's very vintagely themed but a really good

1847
01:32:23,933 --> 01:32:26,613
Speaker 13: spot for a caffeine shot before you hit the trails

1848
01:32:26,653 --> 01:32:31,093
Speaker 13: all around Eton. Speaking of which, the Powerhouse Walk, which

1849
01:32:31,173 --> 01:32:34,213
Speaker 13: is one of the most popular tracks, which is sort

1850
01:32:34,213 --> 01:32:37,573
Speaker 13: of wrapped around the Andongohua River, very cool.

1851
01:32:37,613 --> 01:32:38,493
Speaker 6: Little update on this.

1852
01:32:38,773 --> 01:32:43,173
Speaker 13: The Powerhouse is the powerhouse that generated New Zealand's first

1853
01:32:43,253 --> 01:32:46,533
Speaker 13: public supply of electricity back in the eighteen eighties. At

1854
01:32:46,573 --> 01:32:51,013
Speaker 13: the moment they are trying to reinstate that powerhouse back

1855
01:32:51,053 --> 01:32:54,213
Speaker 13: into operation, which would be a very cool thing. So

1856
01:32:55,333 --> 01:32:57,773
Speaker 13: you'll see the workers there when you take a wander

1857
01:32:57,893 --> 01:32:58,413
Speaker 13: on that walk.

1858
01:32:59,533 --> 01:33:03,413
Speaker 3: Yeah nice, Okay, So heading into Lewis Pass then kind

1859
01:33:03,413 --> 01:33:07,693
Speaker 3: of inland. What is so distinctive about the Maruya hot poles.

1860
01:33:08,213 --> 01:33:10,613
Speaker 13: Yes, well, if you're looking for a wellness break on

1861
01:33:10,733 --> 01:33:14,213
Speaker 13: the West coast, I think Maruya is fantastic. The wood

1862
01:33:14,413 --> 01:33:19,773
Speaker 13: actually translates from Malori as shelter or comfortable place Maruria,

1863
01:33:19,893 --> 01:33:23,093
Speaker 13: and man, it's just so perfectly named because a bit

1864
01:33:23,253 --> 01:33:27,653
Speaker 13: like Hannah Springs. It was first used by Maori Ponamu

1865
01:33:27,773 --> 01:33:31,453
Speaker 13: traders to sue their aches and wounds while hauling stone

1866
01:33:31,493 --> 01:33:35,173
Speaker 13: across the path, but nowadays it's a magnificent hot springs

1867
01:33:35,213 --> 01:33:38,973
Speaker 13: retreat and unlike the hurly burly of Hannah Springs, if

1868
01:33:38,973 --> 01:33:41,693
Speaker 13: you're wanting something a bit more sedate. I love how

1869
01:33:41,773 --> 01:33:45,533
Speaker 13: their hot pools are just so brilliantly elemental, as if

1870
01:33:45,533 --> 01:33:48,493
Speaker 13: they're just all part of nature. And then you've got

1871
01:33:48,533 --> 01:33:51,613
Speaker 13: plunge pools and saunas and steam rooms, really good on

1872
01:33:51,773 --> 01:33:55,493
Speaker 13: site dining, but it's the sweet solitude of that location

1873
01:33:56,093 --> 01:33:58,893
Speaker 13: or beech forests and beefy mountains. You can't beat it.

1874
01:33:59,693 --> 01:34:03,333
Speaker 3: I remember when we were kids in my family, my

1875
01:34:03,453 --> 01:34:05,853
Speaker 3: parents took us there and we stayed a night there

1876
01:34:05,893 --> 01:34:07,933
Speaker 3: and it just snow just a little bit when we

1877
01:34:08,013 --> 01:34:11,373
Speaker 3: were on the high holes. It was the most amazing experience.

1878
01:34:11,413 --> 01:34:14,693
Speaker 3: Its Yeah, so can you can you just purchase like

1879
01:34:14,733 --> 01:34:16,333
Speaker 3: a day pass to visit Maria?

1880
01:34:16,973 --> 01:34:17,213
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1881
01:34:17,293 --> 01:34:19,493
Speaker 13: I was really intrigued by this check So yeah, I mean,

1882
01:34:19,493 --> 01:34:22,013
Speaker 13: I've got some really good accommodation options whether you want

1883
01:34:22,093 --> 01:34:24,373
Speaker 13: swanky or cheap and cheerful. You can actually just camp

1884
01:34:24,453 --> 01:34:26,333
Speaker 13: there if you want. But if you just want to

1885
01:34:26,373 --> 01:34:28,973
Speaker 13: have a quick devil, yeah, you can buy a three

1886
01:34:29,053 --> 01:34:32,413
Speaker 13: hour path which gives you access to those mineral rich

1887
01:34:32,493 --> 01:34:35,373
Speaker 13: hot pools and also the sauna. The coursing about that

1888
01:34:35,573 --> 01:34:37,853
Speaker 13: spring water, by the way, the GEO them will sprint water.

1889
01:34:38,653 --> 01:34:42,013
Speaker 13: It spurits out of the Earth. It's fifty six degrees

1890
01:34:42,133 --> 01:34:44,373
Speaker 13: celsius after being heated.

1891
01:34:44,173 --> 01:34:45,213
Speaker 2: Up by the Earth's core.

1892
01:34:45,653 --> 01:34:48,253
Speaker 13: So they then call it down because obviously that's too hot.

1893
01:34:48,653 --> 01:34:51,613
Speaker 13: You know, they have a soaken so they call it

1894
01:34:51,693 --> 01:34:53,693
Speaker 13: down to thirty seven to forty two degrees in those

1895
01:34:53,733 --> 01:34:58,093
Speaker 13: hot pools, which is quite hot enough. I think, yes, yes, yes.

1896
01:34:57,973 --> 01:35:00,013
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. What about like the

1897
01:35:00,413 --> 01:35:03,693
Speaker 3: lewest Pass Wilderness, because the bush yavia is incredible.

1898
01:35:03,853 --> 01:35:06,893
Speaker 13: There are some really good walks nearby, a so many

1899
01:35:07,013 --> 01:35:09,053
Speaker 13: jack and I mean, I think I've been guilty of this.

1900
01:35:09,213 --> 01:35:11,493
Speaker 6: I just ripping through the Lewis Pass without.

1901
01:35:11,333 --> 01:35:13,133
Speaker 13: Stopping a lot of times. But if you do want

1902
01:35:13,173 --> 01:35:15,933
Speaker 13: to have a bit of a ramble, the Marula River

1903
01:35:16,053 --> 01:35:19,613
Speaker 13: trailer is a cracker for those wide angle alpine views.

1904
01:35:20,493 --> 01:35:22,653
Speaker 13: If you want to head into the forest just off

1905
01:35:22,773 --> 01:35:27,573
Speaker 13: Lewis Pass Highway. The Waterfall Creek Walk is a short

1906
01:35:27,613 --> 01:35:31,933
Speaker 13: and sweet forty minute family favorite, and the BirdLife in

1907
01:35:32,053 --> 01:35:36,613
Speaker 13: Lewis Pass is prolific. I would suggest you strike out

1908
01:35:36,733 --> 01:35:40,373
Speaker 13: on Rough Creek Track, which starts right on the side

1909
01:35:40,373 --> 01:35:43,533
Speaker 13: of the highway. Every time I have done this track,

1910
01:35:44,093 --> 01:35:49,053
Speaker 13: within ten minutes, I've had chirpy South Island Robin's side

1911
01:35:49,333 --> 01:35:51,973
Speaker 13: up to me like sidekicks on the track. So if

1912
01:35:52,013 --> 01:35:56,173
Speaker 13: you want a Robin Rondevous, the Rough Creek Track is

1913
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Speaker 13: a sure bet.

1914
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Speaker 5: Ah.

1915
01:35:58,133 --> 01:36:00,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good. Hey, I don't know why I didn't

1916
01:36:00,413 --> 01:36:02,973
Speaker 3: think of this earlier, but yeah, there is something that

1917
01:36:03,093 --> 01:36:06,773
Speaker 3: of course connects that part of the world in the

1918
01:36:06,853 --> 01:36:08,733
Speaker 3: Lewis Pass with the part of the world that i'm

1919
01:36:08,773 --> 01:36:12,893
Speaker 3: broadcasting from this morning. A certain figure in New Zealand history.

1920
01:36:12,933 --> 01:36:14,413
Speaker 3: Can you think of anyone off the top of your head.

1921
01:36:14,413 --> 01:36:16,253
Speaker 3: I'm very much putting you on the spot here.

1922
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Speaker 13: Reefed in New York City. No, you'll have to help

1923
01:36:20,573 --> 01:36:21,293
Speaker 13: me here, Jack.

1924
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So it is reefed, and technically it's Crushington,

1925
01:36:25,853 --> 01:36:27,893
Speaker 3: which is just outside of Reefton. But I mean, I

1926
01:36:27,973 --> 01:36:31,613
Speaker 3: think even that the fine locals of Reefton would agree

1927
01:36:31,613 --> 01:36:33,813
Speaker 3: that Crushington is Reefed and it's a suburb of Reefton.

1928
01:36:35,053 --> 01:36:37,693
Speaker 3: So you might have even noticed a statue on the

1929
01:36:37,773 --> 01:36:40,853
Speaker 3: way into town, have you seen that? Yes, yes, yes,

1930
01:36:41,893 --> 01:36:47,093
Speaker 3: Jack Lovelock nineteen ten. Yep, and very sadly, of course,

1931
01:36:47,133 --> 01:36:50,613
Speaker 3: he died at a subway station in Brooklyn, New York.

1932
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Speaker 13: So there you go as one cracking connection you've just

1933
01:36:54,853 --> 01:36:55,533
Speaker 13: reached up here.

1934
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1935
01:36:56,413 --> 01:36:59,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a bit of a I'm a bit of

1936
01:36:59,613 --> 01:37:02,613
Speaker 3: a Jack love Lock nerd. I'm a nerd for love stuff.

1937
01:37:02,853 --> 01:37:06,333
Speaker 3: And so yeah, because he died Church Avenue subway station

1938
01:37:06,813 --> 01:37:10,373
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, and yeah, yeah, so do you go a

1939
01:37:10,413 --> 01:37:12,773
Speaker 3: little little connection there? In nineteen ten he was born

1940
01:37:12,773 --> 01:37:14,733
Speaker 3: in Crushington, just outside of Reef and went on, of

1941
01:37:14,813 --> 01:37:16,813
Speaker 3: course to win Golden the fifteen hundred.

1942
01:37:16,933 --> 01:37:20,493
Speaker 13: How may Yeah, and just out of Reefdon Black's points

1943
01:37:20,533 --> 01:37:25,093
Speaker 13: that neighboring beliefs. The museum THEA has the most amazing

1944
01:37:25,173 --> 01:37:27,613
Speaker 13: collection all about Jack Globlock's life.

1945
01:37:28,573 --> 01:37:31,293
Speaker 3: Oh how about that. Look, we're all about connections this morning.

1946
01:37:32,533 --> 01:37:34,413
Speaker 3: I reckon if we've put out something this morning and

1947
01:37:34,453 --> 01:37:36,813
Speaker 3: said we're going to what connects New York and reefdon

1948
01:37:37,493 --> 01:37:39,093
Speaker 3: I don't know how many how many listens would have

1949
01:37:39,093 --> 01:37:40,493
Speaker 3: got there, I mean the reef and locals would have

1950
01:37:40,533 --> 01:37:43,933
Speaker 3: to disqualify them. That'll get it immediately. But yeah, hey,

1951
01:37:44,013 --> 01:37:45,533
Speaker 3: thank you so much, Mike. We're going to make sure

1952
01:37:45,533 --> 01:37:48,133
Speaker 3: that all of Mike's tips on visiting Reefton and Lewis

1953
01:37:48,133 --> 01:37:50,373
Speaker 3: Pas are up and available at newstalk SEB dot co

1954
01:37:50,733 --> 01:37:53,573
Speaker 3: dot nz. It is just coming up to eleven thirty

1955
01:37:53,653 --> 01:37:56,613
Speaker 3: Jason Pine with his plans for weekend sport next.

1956
01:38:00,293 --> 01:38:04,213
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1957
01:38:04,693 --> 01:38:05,853
Speaker 1: on News Talks, EDB.

1958
01:38:09,013 --> 01:38:09,773
Speaker 5: On Your.

1959
01:38:16,413 --> 01:38:32,973
Speaker 3: Me Tell me Again twenty eight minutes to twelve on

1960
01:38:33,053 --> 01:38:35,133
Speaker 3: News Stories. But you were Jack Table. I said this

1961
01:38:35,253 --> 01:38:37,093
Speaker 3: time last week that I was preparing to go to

1962
01:38:37,173 --> 01:38:40,293
Speaker 3: Auckland FC's opening game. Jason Pine was calling the game,

1963
01:38:40,373 --> 01:38:43,013
Speaker 3: of course, and piney, I've got a report back. Yes,

1964
01:38:43,213 --> 01:38:47,213
Speaker 3: it was an amazing experience, Like I just thought, the

1965
01:38:47,413 --> 01:38:51,693
Speaker 3: organizers of the club everyone nailed it, absolutely nailed it.

1966
01:38:51,773 --> 01:38:54,693
Speaker 3: It was perfect. It was so much fun. The atmosphere

1967
01:38:54,853 --> 01:38:57,893
Speaker 3: was fantastic, but just real family fun as well. Like

1968
01:38:58,173 --> 01:39:00,213
Speaker 3: we took along our boy. We went with some friends,

1969
01:39:00,253 --> 01:39:01,933
Speaker 3: all of their kids as well, they had the big

1970
01:39:02,853 --> 01:39:07,093
Speaker 3: bouncy castle slide down the embankment. You could get like

1971
01:39:07,413 --> 01:39:09,813
Speaker 3: a box of milk and a little mini cookie time

1972
01:39:09,893 --> 01:39:12,213
Speaker 3: for a dollar, so the kids were fueling up on that.

1973
01:39:12,333 --> 01:39:14,213
Speaker 3: There were all sorts of interactive things and then of

1974
01:39:14,293 --> 01:39:17,333
Speaker 3: course all condeft see one. So it was it was remarkable.

1975
01:39:17,373 --> 01:39:20,093
Speaker 3: I just hope they can maintain that momentum and that

1976
01:39:20,253 --> 01:39:22,053
Speaker 3: kind of experience for the rest of the season, because

1977
01:39:22,053 --> 01:39:24,293
Speaker 3: they reckon if they will. If they do, they're going

1978
01:39:24,333 --> 01:39:26,493
Speaker 3: to continue having really really good crowds like they did

1979
01:39:26,573 --> 01:39:29,533
Speaker 3: last weekend. Was that your experience too? Exactly?

1980
01:39:29,653 --> 01:39:32,093
Speaker 21: It's it's as though you've read my notes. That's exactly

1981
01:39:32,173 --> 01:39:34,253
Speaker 21: what I wrote down, as well as how good it

1982
01:39:34,493 --> 01:39:36,493
Speaker 21: was in all areas. Yes, they won the game, that

1983
01:39:36,653 --> 01:39:38,773
Speaker 21: was important, so on the grass they got the two

1984
01:39:38,853 --> 01:39:40,893
Speaker 21: nil win, they got the clean sheet, they got off

1985
01:39:40,933 --> 01:39:43,253
Speaker 21: to a winning star. But you're so right, Jack off

1986
01:39:43,293 --> 01:39:46,253
Speaker 21: the park, the atmosphere created by everybody who turned up,

1987
01:39:46,293 --> 01:39:48,453
Speaker 21: and it was I just loved it. And there were

1988
01:39:48,493 --> 01:39:51,373
Speaker 21: the A list celebrities up in the corporate areas, you know,

1989
01:39:51,533 --> 01:39:53,773
Speaker 21: and then there were as you mentioned, the families and

1990
01:39:54,813 --> 01:39:56,853
Speaker 21: football fans down on the stands and then of course

1991
01:39:56,893 --> 01:40:00,253
Speaker 21: the act of support the port behind the goal at

1992
01:40:00,333 --> 01:40:04,493
Speaker 21: one end they added their own layer of real excitement

1993
01:40:04,533 --> 01:40:05,773
Speaker 21: to the whole thing. I just thought it was a

1994
01:40:05,853 --> 01:40:07,933
Speaker 21: home run. Wrong sport, I know, but I just thought

1995
01:40:07,933 --> 01:40:10,773
Speaker 21: they did a terrific job. They built it this football club,

1996
01:40:10,813 --> 01:40:12,973
Speaker 21: and people came and you know, if you went to

1997
01:40:13,053 --> 01:40:15,413
Speaker 21: that last week, you'd be saying, Okay, when's my next

1998
01:40:15,493 --> 01:40:15,893
Speaker 21: chance to go?

1999
01:40:16,053 --> 01:40:16,213
Speaker 14: Look.

2000
01:40:16,253 --> 01:40:18,533
Speaker 21: I don't know whether they'll get twenty five thousand there tomorrow,

2001
01:40:18,653 --> 01:40:22,253
Speaker 21: but I reckon they'll get another good crowd and they've

2002
01:40:22,253 --> 01:40:24,613
Speaker 21: started off on the right foot. So yeah, long may

2003
01:40:24,693 --> 01:40:26,733
Speaker 21: that continue. It's been been far too long since we

2004
01:40:26,853 --> 01:40:28,133
Speaker 21: had professional football in Auckland.

2005
01:40:28,573 --> 01:40:31,653
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of things continuing for long time's fingers cross

2006
01:40:32,173 --> 01:40:35,373
Speaker 3: and for football fans in particular Chris Wood now the

2007
01:40:35,533 --> 01:40:39,693
Speaker 3: second highest scorer in the Premier League this season. I know, Harland,

2008
01:40:40,133 --> 01:40:41,133
Speaker 3: it's crazy, isn't it.

2009
01:40:41,333 --> 01:40:43,093
Speaker 21: He is just in a rich vein of form, and

2010
01:40:43,173 --> 01:40:45,213
Speaker 21: actually not Ingham Forest should be very thankful for Chris

2011
01:40:45,293 --> 01:40:47,373
Speaker 21: Wood because I don't think it's anybody else on that

2012
01:40:47,493 --> 01:40:49,813
Speaker 21: roster who actually can score goals, but now he's doing

2013
01:40:50,533 --> 01:40:53,093
Speaker 21: an amazing job. You're right, only Earling Harland has scored

2014
01:40:53,133 --> 01:40:55,213
Speaker 21: more goals in the Premier League this season than Chris Wood.

2015
01:40:55,253 --> 01:40:59,773
Speaker 21: It's a remarkable sentence to say, but look, he's just

2016
01:41:00,053 --> 01:41:01,973
Speaker 21: I don't know, I don't want to use too many cliches,

2017
01:41:02,013 --> 01:41:04,773
Speaker 21: but he is aging like a fine wine. He knows

2018
01:41:04,853 --> 01:41:07,693
Speaker 21: what his game is about. He's scored different types of goals.

2019
01:41:08,133 --> 01:41:11,693
Speaker 21: He is a very very very good Premier League striker

2020
01:41:11,773 --> 01:41:16,293
Speaker 21: these days, Chris Wood, and again long may that continue.

2021
01:41:17,053 --> 01:41:18,853
Speaker 3: So my hot take on Chris Wood is that he

2022
01:41:19,133 --> 01:41:23,173
Speaker 3: is one. He is a moneyball kind of player. You

2023
01:41:23,293 --> 01:41:25,773
Speaker 3: remember that movie about those baseball players who are really

2024
01:41:25,813 --> 01:41:28,253
Speaker 3: good but then maybe not necessarily the flashiest or whatever.

2025
01:41:28,653 --> 01:41:30,853
Speaker 3: He is a guy who gets on base or does

2026
01:41:30,893 --> 01:41:33,733
Speaker 3: the equivalent in football, right, Like he just there's something

2027
01:41:33,773 --> 01:41:37,413
Speaker 3: about his positional play. He's big, he's fast enough, he's

2028
01:41:37,453 --> 01:41:40,453
Speaker 3: certainly strong, and he's really calm in front of goal.

2029
01:41:40,573 --> 01:41:43,093
Speaker 3: It is just so good for New Zealand football fans

2030
01:41:43,133 --> 01:41:45,573
Speaker 3: to see him doing so well to India. So this

2031
01:41:45,653 --> 01:41:49,653
Speaker 3: time last week we were kind of remarking on what

2032
01:41:49,813 --> 01:41:52,133
Speaker 3: was a pretty extraordinary situation for the black Caps, and

2033
01:41:52,293 --> 01:41:56,813
Speaker 3: things have only got crazier. Dere I suggest today could

2034
01:41:56,973 --> 01:42:00,333
Speaker 3: be the day could be the day touching Wood obviously,

2035
01:42:00,493 --> 01:42:05,373
Speaker 3: that the black Caps record and historic Test series victory

2036
01:42:05,573 --> 01:42:06,053
Speaker 3: in India.

2037
01:42:06,533 --> 01:42:09,013
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think you dare suggest it. I think you

2038
01:42:09,173 --> 01:42:11,613
Speaker 21: can't suggest it. And speaking of sentences, we never thought

2039
01:42:11,653 --> 01:42:14,533
Speaker 21: we'd say Mitchell sant Na has bold New Zealand into

2040
01:42:14,613 --> 01:42:15,533
Speaker 21: a when in position.

2041
01:42:15,613 --> 01:42:16,293
Speaker 3: Who would have thought.

2042
01:42:16,373 --> 01:42:18,613
Speaker 21: You know, he's never taken more than three wickets in

2043
01:42:18,653 --> 01:42:21,733
Speaker 21: a Test innings before. He took seven for yesterday, the

2044
01:42:21,893 --> 01:42:25,493
Speaker 21: eighth equal best figures ever by a New Zealand bowler

2045
01:42:25,613 --> 01:42:27,093
Speaker 21: in our history of Test cricket.

2046
01:42:27,173 --> 01:42:27,653
Speaker 3: Incredible.

2047
01:42:27,933 --> 01:42:29,813
Speaker 21: And then I think the way we batted, and Tom

2048
01:42:29,933 --> 01:42:33,093
Speaker 21: Latham in particular, the positivity he brought. What we're three

2049
01:42:33,173 --> 01:42:36,453
Speaker 21: hundred ahead, Jack five down, there are still three days

2050
01:42:36,533 --> 01:42:38,893
Speaker 21: to go. I mean, even if they're not going to

2051
01:42:38,973 --> 01:42:41,333
Speaker 21: but even if they declared now three hundred's hard to chase,

2052
01:42:41,693 --> 01:42:44,293
Speaker 21: they could get another you know, Phillips is in blundles

2053
01:42:44,333 --> 01:42:47,053
Speaker 21: and if Phillips gets a quick you know, thirty or forty,

2054
01:42:47,333 --> 01:42:48,293
Speaker 21: all of a sudden we're three.

2055
01:42:48,293 --> 01:42:49,213
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty ahead.

2056
01:42:49,333 --> 01:42:53,053
Speaker 21: Plenty of time left on a turning pitch with Santa obviously,

2057
01:42:53,133 --> 01:42:55,333
Speaker 21: but also Pateel, Phillips and Ravendra.

2058
01:42:55,453 --> 01:42:55,973
Speaker 3: If needed.

2059
01:42:56,453 --> 01:42:59,893
Speaker 21: We are in an amazing position. You know, we've played

2060
01:42:59,893 --> 01:43:03,133
Speaker 21: this is the thirteenth Test series we've played in India.

2061
01:43:03,493 --> 01:43:06,693
Speaker 21: We've lost eleven of them, eleven of the series of

2062
01:43:06,813 --> 01:43:09,173
Speaker 21: the previous twelve. So it's not asself. We've got close

2063
01:43:09,213 --> 01:43:11,893
Speaker 21: to even drawing his series from done that once. So

2064
01:43:12,093 --> 01:43:15,013
Speaker 21: to be on the verge of winning one utterly historic.

2065
01:43:15,573 --> 01:43:17,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. Like I said, I just

2066
01:43:17,493 --> 01:43:19,453
Speaker 3: wanted to get to hear myself, but you know, here's

2067
01:43:19,453 --> 01:43:22,173
Speaker 3: a cricket van it is. Yeah, it's just so good.

2068
01:43:22,533 --> 01:43:23,693
Speaker 3: So what's on the show this afternoon?

2069
01:43:23,773 --> 01:43:25,733
Speaker 21: I'm going to talk to Scott Styrus about the cricket

2070
01:43:25,733 --> 01:43:28,013
Speaker 21: because you're keen to unpack that. And on the rugby,

2071
01:43:28,133 --> 01:43:30,893
Speaker 21: Tony Brown leads us off after midday, one of our

2072
01:43:30,933 --> 01:43:34,013
Speaker 21: great rugby minds these days, of course behind enemy lines

2073
01:43:34,053 --> 01:43:37,013
Speaker 21: with South Africa. So Tony Brown after midday, Murray mixed

2074
01:43:37,013 --> 01:43:39,053
Speaker 21: it after one and lots of chat this afternoon about

2075
01:43:39,093 --> 01:43:39,933
Speaker 21: rugby and cricket.

2076
01:43:40,573 --> 01:43:42,533
Speaker 3: Superb. Yeah, looking forward to that. I shouldn't be asking

2077
01:43:42,533 --> 01:43:43,733
Speaker 3: you what's on the show. I should be asking you

2078
01:43:43,813 --> 01:43:46,213
Speaker 3: what's not on the show. Because it is another amazing

2079
01:43:46,253 --> 01:43:48,853
Speaker 3: weekend of sport. Thank you, sir. Jason Pie will be

2080
01:43:48,893 --> 01:43:50,853
Speaker 3: with us for weekend sport. He's behind the mic right

2081
01:43:50,933 --> 01:43:52,773
Speaker 3: after the midday news and don't forget, of course that

2082
01:43:52,853 --> 01:43:54,173
Speaker 3: news Talks he be is going to have a live

2083
01:43:54,253 --> 01:43:57,453
Speaker 3: coverage of the All Blacks Japan from just after six

2084
01:43:57,493 --> 01:44:00,333
Speaker 3: o'clock this evening. Right now it is twenty three minutes

2085
01:44:00,373 --> 01:44:03,773
Speaker 3: to twelve. New music for you from Kylie Minogue before midday.

2086
01:44:04,133 --> 01:44:05,973
Speaker 2: No bit of way to kick off your weekend. Then

2087
01:44:06,093 --> 01:44:06,773
Speaker 2: with Jack.

2088
01:44:06,973 --> 01:44:10,133
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and bepured dot co dot

2089
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2090
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Speaker 2: Supplements Used Talks MB.

2091
01:44:16,373 --> 01:44:18,893
Speaker 3: Twenty to twelve one News Talks VU with Jack Tayne.

2092
01:44:18,933 --> 01:44:21,453
Speaker 3: This morning Katherine Rains our book reviewers here with her

2093
01:44:21,613 --> 01:44:25,493
Speaker 3: two picks for the long weekend. Go to Catherine Morning Jack.

2094
01:44:26,333 --> 01:44:30,013
Speaker 3: So let's begin with The Waiting by Michael Connelly.

2095
01:44:31,253 --> 01:44:33,493
Speaker 20: So this is the sixth in a spin off series

2096
01:44:33,533 --> 01:44:36,493
Speaker 20: he has about Renee Ballad, and it's a spin off

2097
01:44:36,573 --> 01:44:38,853
Speaker 20: of the Harry Bosch stories. And Harry makes an appearance

2098
01:44:38,933 --> 01:44:42,453
Speaker 20: in this and Rene's a volunteer in the in the

2099
01:44:42,973 --> 01:44:47,453
Speaker 20: LA Department's Open So Open Unsolved unit. And Harry's now

2100
01:44:47,493 --> 01:44:50,373
Speaker 20: in his seventies and he's dealing with some serious health issues,

2101
01:44:50,413 --> 01:44:52,653
Speaker 20: but him and Ballad are still friends, and the book

2102
01:44:52,733 --> 01:44:56,573
Speaker 20: also brings in Bosher's daughter, Maddie, who's an LAPD officer

2103
01:44:57,213 --> 01:45:00,333
Speaker 20: and in the waiting. There are three major investigations at play,

2104
01:45:00,413 --> 01:45:03,853
Speaker 20: beginning with when Rene's outsurfing and she returns to her

2105
01:45:04,213 --> 01:45:07,813
Speaker 20: car and discovers her department badge, gun, and ID card

2106
01:45:07,933 --> 01:45:09,813
Speaker 20: have been stolen while she's been out on the water,

2107
01:45:10,293 --> 01:45:12,813
Speaker 20: and it presents all sorts of problems for her. She'll

2108
01:45:12,893 --> 01:45:15,933
Speaker 20: take serious heat if she reports the theft, and so

2109
01:45:16,053 --> 01:45:18,613
Speaker 20: she decides that there's only one option, and that's to

2110
01:45:18,693 --> 01:45:20,893
Speaker 20: turn to Harry to help her track down her valuables

2111
01:45:20,973 --> 01:45:23,813
Speaker 20: and catch the guy who took them. And at the

2112
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:26,693
Speaker 20: same time, the open unsolved unit has uncovered this fresh

2113
01:45:26,813 --> 01:45:29,893
Speaker 20: evidence suggesting that a long dominant serial killer, a guy

2114
01:45:29,933 --> 01:45:33,333
Speaker 20: called the Pillowcase rapist, could be a superior court judge,

2115
01:45:33,773 --> 01:45:36,253
Speaker 20: and of course that case requires some very delicate handling

2116
01:45:36,413 --> 01:45:39,053
Speaker 20: and will put her unit in the whole department right

2117
01:45:39,133 --> 01:45:41,893
Speaker 20: in the spotlight. And then Harry's daughter, Maddie, who's a

2118
01:45:41,933 --> 01:45:44,813
Speaker 20: patrol officer as I mentioned, joins the team after stumbling

2119
01:45:44,893 --> 01:45:48,653
Speaker 20: on some explosive evidence relating to this black Dahlia killing

2120
01:45:48,773 --> 01:45:51,053
Speaker 20: back in nineteen forty seven, and it's one of the

2121
01:45:51,093 --> 01:45:54,813
Speaker 20: most famous unsolvedveriders in the history of Los Angeles. So

2122
01:45:54,933 --> 01:45:57,653
Speaker 20: you get all of these investigations going on and all

2123
01:45:57,733 --> 01:46:00,973
Speaker 20: of these things going in, these subplots and investigations, and

2124
01:46:01,213 --> 01:46:04,333
Speaker 20: it's really vintage Colony with those great subplots and lots

2125
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Speaker 20: of suspense, and the store is all tiring together. And yeah,

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01:46:07,733 --> 01:46:10,213
Speaker 20: he takes you deep in and it's a great read,

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Speaker 20: of course from Michael Colony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course. Okay, that's The Waiting by

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Speaker 3: Michael Thornley. Next up The House We Grew Up In

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Speaker 3: by Lisa Juel.

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Speaker 20: So this follows the Bird family through the years and

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01:46:22,013 --> 01:46:25,293
Speaker 20: alluding to why they might be also estranged with each other.

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Speaker 20: And it's set partially in the present day and partially

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Speaker 20: in the past and spans thirty years, and those intervening

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Speaker 20: years are told on alternative chapters by members of the

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Speaker 20: Bird family and each of fighting their own demons to

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01:46:35,973 --> 01:46:38,933
Speaker 20: build up this picture of the past. And then the

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01:46:38,973 --> 01:46:41,293
Speaker 20: first time you go right back to the beginning of

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Speaker 20: their story, to this very sunny Easter Sunday in nineteen

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Speaker 20: eighty one. This Cotswell College, full of love and laughter,

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Speaker 20: and then all of a sudden you're in the present

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Speaker 20: day where they're back together again for the first time

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Speaker 20: in years, and there's the guilt and separation and bitterness

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01:46:56,253 --> 01:46:58,493
Speaker 20: and you know what tore them apart in this heartbreak

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01:46:58,573 --> 01:47:01,973
Speaker 20: and secrets. And the story mainly follows the mother, Lorelei

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01:47:02,093 --> 01:47:04,773
Speaker 20: and her daughter Megan bird the most. And Laura, in

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01:47:04,813 --> 01:47:07,013
Speaker 20: her children's eyes, was full of love and surprises, but

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01:47:07,093 --> 01:47:09,293
Speaker 20: there's lots of red flags in the air, so she

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01:47:09,373 --> 01:47:11,973
Speaker 20: wants to keep every single piece of her children's art,

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01:47:12,053 --> 01:47:14,533
Speaker 20: and then she keeps items that are broken and useless,

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Speaker 20: and all of a sudden, her collections become piles of

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01:47:16,653 --> 01:47:19,093
Speaker 20: stuff and more stuff, and the house that they grew

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01:47:19,173 --> 01:47:21,053
Speaker 20: up and is no longer the house that they remember.

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01:47:21,533 --> 01:47:23,733
Speaker 20: And is Meghan, who tries to be the exact opposite

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01:47:23,773 --> 01:47:26,053
Speaker 20: of her mum, who hoards, and she lives in this

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01:47:26,133 --> 01:47:28,933
Speaker 20: home that's spotless, without any clatteral mess. And then there's Death,

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Speaker 20: who's often invisible as the middle daughter, and she's on

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01:47:32,173 --> 01:47:35,653
Speaker 20: this constant journey to find herself. And there's a study

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01:47:35,773 --> 01:47:38,813
Speaker 20: and how tragedy affects everyone differently and causes these ripple

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01:47:38,853 --> 01:47:41,413
Speaker 20: effects that take years to recover from. And so you

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01:47:41,573 --> 01:47:43,493
Speaker 20: have the story that deals with death and trauma and

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01:47:43,573 --> 01:47:47,053
Speaker 20: mental illness, but most of all about relationships and about family.

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01:47:47,173 --> 01:47:48,453
Speaker 16: And what ties them all together.

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Speaker 3: Oh super okay, that sounds really good. Thank you very much, Catherine.

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Speaker 3: That's the House We Grew Up In by Lisa Juwell.

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01:47:55,373 --> 01:47:57,973
Speaker 3: Catherine's first book. The latest one from Michael Connolly is

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01:47:58,093 --> 01:48:00,893
Speaker 3: The Waiting And if you're wondering about either of those,

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Speaker 3: all of the information about those books will be at Newstoroks.

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Speaker 3: He'd b dot co dot nz Fords slash Jack Right.

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Speaker 3: Kylie Minogue has just been named one of Time Magazine's

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Speaker 3: People of the Year for twenty twenty four. She has

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01:48:15,093 --> 01:48:19,373
Speaker 3: sold eighty million records worldwide, and her latest one has

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Speaker 3: just been released. It's called Tension two and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a listen in a couple of minutes. It's called

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Speaker 3: it a twelve one news talks.

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Speaker 1: He'd be as the election, he tough, it's Saturday Mornings

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Speaker 1: with Jacktame with b fewer dot co dot it's for

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Speaker 1: high quality supplements used talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be.

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Speaker 9: Let me thank you on Mino Scus Fine.

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Speaker 11: School.

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Speaker 3: That is Midnight Ride. It's by Kylie Minogue. It features

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Speaker 3: allvill Peck and dip Low. Kylie has just released a

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Speaker 3: new album called Tension two. In our music review as Stale,

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Speaker 3: Clifford has been listening Gilda, if.

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Speaker 22: You would believe it, Jack, that's actually one of the

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01:49:19,853 --> 01:49:22,333
Speaker 22: slightly slower tracks on the album.

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01:49:23,493 --> 01:49:24,213
Speaker 2: And I reckon.

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01:49:24,853 --> 01:49:27,613
Speaker 22: All the peck kind of makes me think a little

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01:49:27,613 --> 01:49:29,813
Speaker 22: bit Elvis with that basic vocals.

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01:49:29,973 --> 01:49:34,293
Speaker 14: And remember that song about roses she sang with Nick Cave,

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01:49:34,933 --> 01:49:35,133
Speaker 14: you know.

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01:49:35,173 --> 01:49:39,173
Speaker 22: That creepy yeah weld roses or whatever it was, like,

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01:49:39,253 --> 01:49:42,213
Speaker 22: it kind of has that tone about it, and for

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01:49:42,333 --> 01:49:43,813
Speaker 22: some reason that just works for Kylie.

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01:49:44,093 --> 01:49:45,013
Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 22: This is one of those albums where we are just

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01:49:48,893 --> 01:49:53,413
Speaker 22: all gonna be unabatteredly club loving Kylie fans, So.

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Speaker 14: Just let your dance guard down and go where it is.

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01:49:58,333 --> 01:50:01,533
Speaker 14: I Reckon It's like a DJ got up on the decks.

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Speaker 22: They put the spin speed at one hundred and thirty

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01:50:05,293 --> 01:50:08,133
Speaker 22: beeks per minute, cranked up the bass, we all gulped

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01:50:08,173 --> 01:50:10,853
Speaker 22: down our Kylie prosecco, and we just, you know, danced

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01:50:10,893 --> 01:50:14,013
Speaker 22: the night away. That's that's pretty much what this album

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01:50:14,173 --> 01:50:17,133
Speaker 22: is delivering. It has ended up being a sequel album.

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01:50:17,253 --> 01:50:20,653
Speaker 22: So last year her album Tension came out. I think

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01:50:20,693 --> 01:50:23,293
Speaker 22: it was gonna be like a deluxe re release with

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01:50:23,413 --> 01:50:25,813
Speaker 22: two or three new songs on it, but she felt

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Speaker 22: like she had more club stuff and dancing to do,

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01:50:28,773 --> 01:50:32,133
Speaker 22: so it became this whole full sequel album, and I'm like,

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01:50:32,573 --> 01:50:35,013
Speaker 22: I feel like only Kylie could be the person to

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01:50:35,093 --> 01:50:38,333
Speaker 22: get away with this, and we all go, Okay, I'll

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01:50:38,373 --> 01:50:42,253
Speaker 22: grab my sequence and let's just go here. I think,

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01:50:42,373 --> 01:50:46,173
Speaker 22: unlike a lot of pop music, Tension and then Tension too,

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01:50:46,693 --> 01:50:50,613
Speaker 22: they're not really they're not delving from a personal experience

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01:50:50,773 --> 01:50:53,333
Speaker 22: or sharing any sort of emotion, you know, like they're

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01:50:53,413 --> 01:50:55,893
Speaker 22: just some of the lyrics you're a little bit like

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01:50:56,253 --> 01:50:57,693
Speaker 22: that's kind of cooky and crazy.

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01:50:57,813 --> 01:51:00,013
Speaker 14: But also it's very struttable.

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01:51:00,173 --> 01:51:02,613
Speaker 22: So I don't think. I don't think there's any need

2221
01:51:02,693 --> 01:51:04,573
Speaker 22: to overanalyze too much of it.

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01:51:06,373 --> 01:51:07,293
Speaker 14: Because it's just fun.

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01:51:07,373 --> 01:51:10,573
Speaker 22: Like this week, I actually just needed something fun to listen,

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01:51:11,133 --> 01:51:13,893
Speaker 22: and Kylie came and answered my prayers, and I feel

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01:51:14,613 --> 01:51:17,013
Speaker 22: like I've just enjoyed this way more than I think

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01:51:17,053 --> 01:51:17,653
Speaker 22: I realized.

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01:51:17,653 --> 01:51:18,813
Speaker 14: I kind of was going to.

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01:51:19,293 --> 01:51:22,693
Speaker 22: There's some really great intro riffs someone for me, which

2229
01:51:22,733 --> 01:51:24,173
Speaker 22: is we're going to play a little bit of soon.

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01:51:24,813 --> 01:51:27,653
Speaker 22: There's actually the starting riff that makes me think of

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01:51:27,693 --> 01:51:29,373
Speaker 22: another song. I can't think what it is, but I

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01:51:29,413 --> 01:51:32,333
Speaker 22: think that is the whole disco pop synth kind of thing.

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01:51:32,813 --> 01:51:35,293
Speaker 14: It sort of does that. There's a great song called

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01:51:35,453 --> 01:51:36,413
Speaker 14: Edge of Saturday Night.

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01:51:36,613 --> 01:51:38,853
Speaker 22: If you're going out tonight, there's the tune you need

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01:51:38,933 --> 01:51:41,293
Speaker 22: to put on beforehand. It's a co lab with the

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01:51:41,333 --> 01:51:44,733
Speaker 22: Blessed Madonna, and those co labs are really working for her.

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01:51:45,133 --> 01:51:49,293
Speaker 22: There's Tove low bb Rexa. The CEA song will be

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01:51:49,333 --> 01:51:51,013
Speaker 22: familiar to a lot of people because it's been out

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Speaker 22: for a while. To me, that sounds more like a

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01:51:53,453 --> 01:51:56,653
Speaker 22: CEA song than anything to do with kylele Minogue. It's

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Speaker 22: at the very end of the album, so it's kind

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01:51:58,373 --> 01:52:01,493
Speaker 22: of an interesting choice to end with. But again her

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01:52:01,613 --> 01:52:03,893
Speaker 22: cares she's haming up with these amazing artists, which again

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01:52:03,973 --> 01:52:08,133
Speaker 22: just spreads out that fandom for her. Yeah, yeah, which

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01:52:08,133 --> 01:52:09,813
Speaker 22: I think is great, and she's She's just had an

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01:52:09,853 --> 01:52:13,013
Speaker 22: interview with Kellie Clarkson and they both talked about how

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01:52:13,453 --> 01:52:15,813
Speaker 22: it's really cool at their gigs when they get those

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01:52:15,893 --> 01:52:18,253
Speaker 22: younger fans now being like Oh my gosh, that new

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01:52:18,333 --> 01:52:19,413
Speaker 22: song Locomotion is.

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01:52:19,453 --> 01:52:23,773
Speaker 14: So cool and we all go, oh no, if you're

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01:52:23,813 --> 01:52:26,973
Speaker 14: real old. But also like, isn't that great. It's like

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01:52:27,173 --> 01:52:31,213
Speaker 14: this whole cyclic thing and I love that too. Obviously.

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01:52:31,253 --> 01:52:33,573
Speaker 22: At her live gigs, she plays this new stuff, but

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01:52:33,693 --> 01:52:36,093
Speaker 22: she isn't ashamed to go back to that old stuff

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01:52:36,133 --> 01:52:38,373
Speaker 22: that got us into Kylie in the first place.

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01:52:38,173 --> 01:52:40,053
Speaker 14: Because she is the princess of pop.

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01:52:40,173 --> 01:52:44,533
Speaker 22: So just release yourself to these catchy beats, don't be

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01:52:44,613 --> 01:52:47,253
Speaker 22: afraid dance, whether it's in your house or you've got

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01:52:47,333 --> 01:52:50,013
Speaker 22: friends coming over in your car. It's a great way

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01:52:50,053 --> 01:52:53,093
Speaker 22: to exercise. And then we'll all be like addicted to

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01:52:53,173 --> 01:52:54,413
Speaker 22: her prosecco over summer.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, she knows how to perform a perform

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01:52:59,013 --> 01:52:59,933
Speaker 3: a pop banger.

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01:52:59,773 --> 01:53:00,333
Speaker 7: You I know.

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01:53:01,053 --> 01:53:01,253
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:53:01,333 --> 01:53:03,693
Speaker 22: And what comes next though, like does she stay with us?

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01:53:03,733 --> 01:53:08,133
Speaker 22: I feel like she's done this electronic pop club thing now,

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01:53:08,333 --> 01:53:12,653
Speaker 22: Like yeah, I kind of I wouldn't mind some emotive Kylie.

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01:53:13,213 --> 01:53:14,773
Speaker 22: I don't know if he's ready to go there yet.

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01:53:14,813 --> 01:53:17,973
Speaker 22: Will tour next year? New Zealand isn't on the bill yet,

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01:53:18,173 --> 01:53:22,173
Speaker 22: but maybe that will come when she's in Australia. I

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01:53:22,213 --> 01:53:24,453
Speaker 22: don't know for now though, Just go for it is

2274
01:53:24,493 --> 01:53:27,813
Speaker 22: what it is. Don't don't totally sit there with their

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01:53:27,853 --> 01:53:29,133
Speaker 22: critique paints on too hard.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, yeah, okay, great, So what did you

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01:53:31,813 --> 01:53:32,013
Speaker 3: give it?

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01:53:32,613 --> 01:53:34,453
Speaker 14: It's an eight out of ten solid album.

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01:53:34,573 --> 01:53:37,933
Speaker 3: Nice? Yeah, okay, cool? Yeah, all right, Well, like Tension one,

2280
01:53:38,213 --> 01:53:39,813
Speaker 3: like proved a lot of people wrong, a lot of

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01:53:39,853 --> 01:53:42,733
Speaker 3: playing teacher one. Just Tension.

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01:53:43,133 --> 01:53:45,413
Speaker 22: Yes, you play this while you're starting around New York

2283
01:53:45,453 --> 01:53:46,693
Speaker 22: and you're gonna, you know, you'll.

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01:53:46,533 --> 01:53:47,053
Speaker 14: Have a crowd.

2285
01:53:47,813 --> 01:53:50,253
Speaker 3: I'm going to be feeling the vibe. Yeah, yeah, okay,

2286
01:53:50,333 --> 01:53:52,373
Speaker 3: all right, you sold me. Thanks, will have a bit

2287
01:53:52,413 --> 01:53:54,693
Speaker 3: more to listen to. Can't even know it's new album.

2288
01:53:54,773 --> 01:53:57,293
Speaker 3: It is Tension too, and just looking at it's like amazing.

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01:53:57,453 --> 01:53:59,733
Speaker 3: In the last couple of days, like forty eight hours

2290
01:53:59,773 --> 01:54:03,253
Speaker 3: of sales, they've sold twenty eight twenty nine thousand units

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01:54:03,293 --> 01:54:06,733
Speaker 3: so far, which means that it's absolutely smashing the comp petition.

2292
01:54:07,413 --> 01:54:10,213
Speaker 3: It looks very likely that Kylie Minogue is going back

2293
01:54:10,213 --> 01:54:11,733
Speaker 3: to the top of the chart. So we will play

2294
01:54:11,773 --> 01:54:13,733
Speaker 3: a bit more attention to in a couple of minutes.

2295
01:54:13,813 --> 01:54:16,333
Speaker 3: Right now, it's eight to twelve live.

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01:54:16,213 --> 01:54:17,893
Speaker 2: From the campaign trail in the US.

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01:54:18,093 --> 01:54:21,373
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and BPURED dot co

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Speaker 1: dot n set for high quality supplements, news dogs.

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Speaker 3: Evy, Well, my goodness, this morning has well, it's just

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01:54:29,573 --> 01:54:33,453
Speaker 3: completely flown by, and not just because I am in

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01:54:33,573 --> 01:54:35,693
Speaker 3: the city that never sleeps and everything is always going.

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01:54:35,813 --> 01:54:38,373
Speaker 3: It is such a pleasure and a privilege to be

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01:54:38,493 --> 01:54:42,373
Speaker 3: back in New York broadcasting and spending our Saturday mornings together.

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01:54:42,893 --> 01:54:47,253
Speaker 3: I'm going to be broadcasting from the US again from

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01:54:47,733 --> 01:54:50,933
Speaker 3: next weekend, which will be the last Saturday morning before

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01:54:51,613 --> 01:54:54,613
Speaker 3: the election, which is the following Wednesday, New Zealand time.

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01:54:54,733 --> 01:54:58,213
Speaker 3: So lots more to say on that presidential contest between

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01:54:58,253 --> 01:55:01,013
Speaker 3: Carmala Harris and Donald Trump. Between now and then over

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01:55:01,013 --> 01:55:02,493
Speaker 3: the next few days, I'm going to be traveling around

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01:55:02,533 --> 01:55:04,133
Speaker 3: the US trying to get a sense of things on

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01:55:04,213 --> 01:55:06,693
Speaker 3: the ground and some of these all important battlegrounds state.

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01:55:06,773 --> 01:55:09,653
Speaker 3: So make sure you change stay tuned to Q and

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01:55:09,733 --> 01:55:13,853
Speaker 3: A on tvn Z plus News Talk Seed B I'll

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01:55:13,893 --> 01:55:15,573
Speaker 3: be reporting for over the next few days. I'll put

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Speaker 3: lots of photos up on our Facebook page as well.

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Speaker 3: Now for everything from our show, you can go to

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Speaker 3: NEWSTALKB dot co dot In the forward slash Jack. Thanks

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Speaker 3: to my wonderful producer Libby for doing the tough stuff.

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine will be with you this afternoon with Weekend

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01:55:27,933 --> 01:55:32,533
Speaker 3: Sport for what is a huge weekend of sport. For now, though,

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Speaker 3: up the caps and we're gonna leave you with Kylie Minogue.

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01:55:35,453 --> 01:55:39,133
Speaker 3: Her latest album is tensioned to this song is Someone

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01:55:39,293 --> 01:55:40,573
Speaker 3: for Me? See you next week?

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01:55:45,693 --> 01:55:45,853
Speaker 1: Yah?

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01:55:45,933 --> 01:55:52,413
Speaker 2: You do you have someone for me?

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01:56:41,093 --> 01:56:42,213
Speaker 7: Like the way hold you?

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01:56:43,413 --> 01:56:44,613
Speaker 10: He's not scared to dance.

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01:56:44,853 --> 01:56:47,333
Speaker 7: You got another make a move, but I like the

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01:56:47,413 --> 01:56:51,613
Speaker 7: way it touches the way you and I can tell

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01:56:51,613 --> 01:56:52,373
Speaker 7: you it.

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01:56:52,853 --> 01:56:55,693
Speaker 10: Happy for your boss, Hoffy, Do you have some.

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Speaker 2: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.

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01:56:59,733 --> 01:57:02,853
Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks it'd be from nine am Saturday,

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Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.