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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks That'd be Now.

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Speaker 2: Sustainability commentator Kate Hall is with us this morning. Calder Kate, Hey, Jack,

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Speaker 2: and we are talking about litter in the ocean. And

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Speaker 2: this is one of those things that every time any

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Speaker 2: of us walks along the beach and you see all

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Speaker 2: the bits of rubbish and plastic and things on the beach,

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Speaker 2: you kind of feel sick inside. But of course that's

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Speaker 2: always you know, that's like a you're only just kind

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Speaker 2: of scraping the very edge of the problem, right, and

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Speaker 2: you're behind a new effort to try and clean up

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Speaker 2: our oceans a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Sustainable Coastlines have I think probably most people

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Speaker 3: know about them, and they're exactly what it sounds like,

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Speaker 3: disencouraging people to clean up our coastlines and oceans. And

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Speaker 3: they've just released this kind of litter intelligence report because

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Speaker 3: they've been working with you know, thousands of individuals doing

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Speaker 3: beach clean up, so they know the types of rubbish

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Speaker 3: that are most common and you know, kind of the

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Speaker 3: main culprit so that we can actually kind of catch

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Speaker 3: our waist from the start, because you know, most people

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Speaker 3: as you think about all those pieces of litter on

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Speaker 3: the coastline, they probably have come from a household who

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Speaker 3: didn't think they were littering, you know, like just it's

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Speaker 3: blown away in the wind. Because yeah, like i'd like

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Speaker 3: to think that most kiwis don't just throw things on

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Speaker 3: the ground, you know. So yeah, with this kind of

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Speaker 3: litter intelligence report they've come out, you know, and fish

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Speaker 3: and chip shops how there's a kind of specie chat,

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Speaker 3: the classic you know, and I probably it's kind of

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Speaker 3: as it's mandatory for fish and chip shops for New

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Speaker 3: Zealand to have that fish species chat. So they've taken

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Speaker 3: that classic visual and turned it into trash species of

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Speaker 3: Altado and New Zealand. So it's really like it's I

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Speaker 3: think it's great because.

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Speaker 2: It's it's very clean people I've seen yeah, yeah, very clear. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's very it's very Yeah, and you're totally right. So

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Speaker 2: that just to just to remind people, you know, the

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Speaker 2: classic species chart at the fish and chip shop. I

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Speaker 2: think you can get like cool ones now because you

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Speaker 2: know how it used to be like that. You always

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Speaker 2: had the kind of grimy one at the fish and

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Speaker 2: chip shop. There was all hair grease on it and

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Speaker 2: that kind of yeah. But you could look at it

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Speaker 2: and you'd be like, oh, there is an orange ruffy,

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Speaker 2: there's a John Dory, there's a snapper, there's a you know,

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Speaker 2: and this is it's a it's a reimagined one, but

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Speaker 2: all of the species are trash.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yep. There's like a blue pod, which is kind

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Speaker 3: of a vague kind of container. There's smoky, which is

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Speaker 3: cigarette bats. I mean that's kind of one of the

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Speaker 3: main things. I've actually been standing on the beach once

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Speaker 3: and someone thrown there literally onto the onto the sand,

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Speaker 3: and I said, oh, sorry, you dropped this.

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Speaker 2: But what they what did they say? Imagine doing that?

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Speaker 2: Well they should feel Really.

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Speaker 3: It's a cultural thing, like even with ret bats, right,

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Speaker 3: it's almost like I would say, probably most people who

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Speaker 3: drop cigarette bets, for small percent who still smoke, they

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Speaker 3: wouldn't drop any other litter, you know, then lists. It's

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Speaker 3: just a cultural thing that we're not exactly Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: other one I love on that chart. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 3: I don't love this because it would be cool if

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Speaker 3: this chat didn't exist, it didn't have listen. But the

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Speaker 3: cord fish, I think it was a great result it's

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Speaker 3: made up of like cables and parts of you know,

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Speaker 3: fishing line and rope. That's something I find personally, because

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Speaker 3: I live right by the ocean, a lot of that

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Speaker 3: I try to pick up, you know, at least whenever

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Speaker 3: you walk along along the ocean. I sometimes feel quite

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Speaker 3: guilty that I don't have time to do a beach

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Speaker 3: plane every day, but I pick up at least three

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Speaker 3: it's usually five, a little bits of rubbish. And it

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Speaker 3: is quite surprising when I walk and I have you know,

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Speaker 3: I can see there's heaps of people have trodden. I

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Speaker 3: can see all the footprints that a lot of this

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Speaker 3: rubbishers just sitting there. That if every one of those

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Speaker 3: people would have walked past had picked up, you know,

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Speaker 3: even just three or five pieces. Yeah, it's really important.

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Speaker 3: So I hope that this kind of visual as the

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Speaker 3: same Coastlines have created and they've got exhibitions down at

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Speaker 3: their space in Auckland at the moment, will help people

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Speaker 3: actually see this and go, oh my gosh, like it's

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Speaker 3: not just the fashion marine life in our oceans. These

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Speaker 3: things are just really really adding up, you know, like

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Speaker 3: they had is that the skullipops. That's one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite names of one of the species and the trash

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Speaker 3: species chat looks like a lollipop wrapper. Yeah, and they've

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Speaker 3: picked up since twenty eighteen eighty three and one.

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Speaker 2: And these are plastic eight like this is the thing

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Speaker 2: for and so that it's not breaking down in the ocean.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying you should be throwing away

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Speaker 2: like a popsicle stick or something like that that is

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Speaker 2: wooden't but the plastic is a big concern because it

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Speaker 2: takes so long to degrade. And so totally those lollipop

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Speaker 2: sticks there, eight hundred eight, three hundred six those are plastic.

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Speaker 2: They're like the chubber chop lollipop sticks right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And out of all of the litter that they collected,

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Speaker 3: so six hundred and twenty one thousands individual pieces that've

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Speaker 3: collected since twenty eighteen, seventy five percent of that is plastic,

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Speaker 3: like made up of plastic. Yeah, and obviously there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of you know, the gutter fish on that chart

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Speaker 3: is the construction waste is a huge, huge issue. I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's this piece, this really awesome visual chart

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Speaker 3: that you know will be around the place, well hopefully

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Speaker 3: help people realize Yeah, these these things we should obviously

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Speaker 3: cap you know, especially over summer, we're spending a lot

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Speaker 3: more time at the beach. You just take a few

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Speaker 3: pieces home. You don't have to turn your whole holiday

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Speaker 3: into the beach crean app though it does get fun personally,

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Speaker 3: I think so anyway, but also just stopping it from

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Speaker 3: the get go, you know, thinking do I need to

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Speaker 3: get a lollipops? Like, is there is there another snack

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Speaker 3: or treats that I could bring my kids, you know,

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Speaker 3: to the playground. How can I stop this from the source?

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Speaker 3: You know, how can I reduce my waist, reduce my packaging,

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Speaker 3: maybe buy things more in bulks so there's less kind

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Speaker 3: of single use, and just be really conscious of one

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Speaker 3: of the little actions you can make so you don't

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Speaker 3: add to the trash species.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that that is a vital message.

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Speaker 2: So just just to give our listeners a bit of

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Speaker 2: an idea of some of the other things on the

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Speaker 2: trash species. Power Aid is in Power has plastic plastic

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Speaker 2: bottle tops, which is I think one of the most

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Speaker 2: common found items and beaches, right, so they reckon they

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Speaker 2: find one for every one thousand square meters of coastline.

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Speaker 2: They find eighteen plastic bottle tops. Crazy, that's crazy. Food

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Speaker 2: wrappers are pretty high up there as well. Like you say,

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Speaker 2: the cigarette butts and filters are a big issue as well.

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Speaker 2: So how can people go and see the poster and

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Speaker 2: support this work?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Samuel coastlines dot org is that you can

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Speaker 3: find poster. You can even buy a poster, you know,

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Speaker 3: to have your work or in your fish and chip

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Speaker 3: shop in anywhere. And yeah, you can go down and

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Speaker 3: see what they have up. Be really involved again. All

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Speaker 3: the information that Cinma coastlines dot org very good.

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Speaker 2: We're going to put a copy of that post up

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Speaker 2: on the website as well so people can go and

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Speaker 2: have a look at it. Oh here's a classic, the

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Speaker 2: soy sauce things from sushi. Ah ah, there's a classic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we are they going to stop being created?

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Speaker 2: I know. Hey, thank you so much. Kate appreciate it

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Speaker 2: as always. That is Kate Hall, our sustainability commentator. You

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Speaker 2: can find her on all of the social media platforms

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Speaker 2: as well by searching ethically Kate.

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