1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Barry so Per, senior political correspondent with US Hallo, Barry. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 2: Good afternoon. 3 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a Royal Morgan opinion poll out run us 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: through it. 5 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Well, yes, the National Party, it's increased three and a 6 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: half percent. It's up to thirty six percent, nowhere near, 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: of course, the forty five percent that Simon Bridges commanded 8 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: all through his leadership and opposition. Nevertheless, that you have it, 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: the support for Act that dropped one and a half percent, 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: down to nine and a half percent. And New Zealand 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: first it was up just one percent to seven and 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: a half. Support for Labor that was down two and 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: a half percent. Essentially, what it's heres is that the government, 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: the coalition government that got the treasury bentions at the 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: moment they would comfortably go back. But the thing that 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: interested me is the gender gap between the support for 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: the coalition government and for the other side. Well, if 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: you look at the coalition support, sixty three percent more 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: than men are behind. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: So it's predominantly males. Males like the Coalition government and 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: females like the opposition. 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Is that basically is oh totally. In fact, I said 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: sixty three sixty six percent of men aged over fifty 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: they support the coalition government. And if you look at 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: women of the same age, well, they're supporting the other 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: way under sixty percent, but they're supporting the other way. 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: What's the condition fifty seven fifty seven point five. Yeah, yeah, 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: so really there is a big gender gap. But if 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: you look at younger men that's under fifty eighteen to 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: forty nine, the edge for the governing coalition is sixty 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: one percent in support of and thirty percent the other way, 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: which is a gap of what thirty one percent? So 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: you know how. 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Many women in the general coalition government. 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: With women the stronger younger women eighteen to forty nine 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: are there on fifty seven point five percent supporting the 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: coalition as opposed to thirty nine point five supporting the 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: coalition government. So yeah, the gender gap runs all the 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: way through from the younger to the older. And I 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: guess now you'll you'll get the pundits looking at the 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: National Party and saying, how can we improve our image 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: for women? 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: Because yeah, and the thing is, women are actually more 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: important arguably than men in terms of no no, no, no, listen, 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: hear me out on this, in terms of voting intentions 46 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: because often the women in the house influence, what the influences, 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: what everybody else does. 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: This is a thing you go and have a look 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: at it. 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: This is why you'll see a lot of the campaigns 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,559 Speaker 3: will actively target the female voter because she is an influencer. 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: So you reckon when it comes down to the vote 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: going into the ballot box, that things might change, that 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: these statistics won't be quite the same. No, I. 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: Don't know. 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: But the only way that I think that you can 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: target the female voter if you're the coalition government is 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: by softening up your policies and by becoming less hard 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: and well then if you do that, then you just 61 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 3: become you become another government that does nothing right. Yeah, 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: because you're not prepared to be bold about it. So 63 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: I'm not really sure that they can take that risk anyway. 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: Grocery Commission is not happy with the supermarkets. I get 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: the feeling that he may actually be lining up to 66 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: do something here based on the retric. 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: Well absolutely well. I don't know whether the Grosser Commissioner will, 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: but certainly the government looks set to do something that 69 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: they found that all three major supermarket groups have increased 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: their margins over the past year and that profitability has 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: either been maintained or increased. Now the suppliers, it's not 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: increasing money to the suppliers as much as the costs 73 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: on the consumer, and that's the big concern. Now, that 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: was the first grocery report from the you're going to 75 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: be talking to the Grocery Commissioner, Peer van Herden. But 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey, the Commerce Minister, he says that essentially it's 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: a concerning picture and it's a twenty five billion dollar 78 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: industry you're talking about here, and most people, well everyone 79 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: has a dealing with the supermarket at some stage, and 80 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: he said clearly there needs to be stronger regulatory action 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: coupled with an ambitious and an economy wide meeting schedule 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: with these groups. But look, this comes at a time 83 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: when the Commerce Commissioners looking at the foodstuffs merging their 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 2: North Island operation with their South Island and the key 85 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: to the merger will be competition. Well, when you have 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: a merger, you don't have competition. So you know there's 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: two I guess too many groceries in the hands of 88 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: too few. 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't see that they're going to wave that 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: one through. Look like it have very quickly. 91 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: Barry, the fact that Christopher Luxon hasn't raised the canceled 92 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: Fairy project while being in South Korea suggests the South 93 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: Koreans are annoyed with us. 94 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know, they are annoyed, of course. Hyonda the 95 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: people that are carrying out well, we're carrying out the 96 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: contract was a big contract with New Zealand. They are 97 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: obviously very annoyed. And the Maritime Union here says it's 98 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: disgusted and angry that he had no plans to meet 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: with this company whilst he was there. But his spokespeople say, well, 100 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: you know, he's leading a trade mission and as such, 101 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: the trade mission, you know, it doesn't cover this sort 102 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: of thing. And they are at Philly critical stages. I 103 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: would imagine in the negotiations on how they haven't been 104 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: told yet how they're going to pay to get out 105 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: of this contract. 106 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, good point, Barry, Thank you very much. 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