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Speaker 1: I spoke to the Prime Minister yesterday about this critical

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Speaker 1: minerals deal that they are potentially doing with the United States,

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Speaker 1: and everybody is absolutely art reult. Not everybody, I mean

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Speaker 1: the opposition parties are absolutely outraged about it. I like

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Speaker 1: what ACTS says. The ACT Party says, because this is

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Speaker 1: critical rare Earth Minerals Act says, we'd else we would

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Speaker 1: be hypocritical to try and stop this. We all use

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Speaker 1: and benefit from the devices that are made from these minerals.

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Speaker 1: So restricting mining here just means that if the US

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Speaker 1: can't get those minerals from New Zealand, they will be

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Speaker 1: dug up somewhere else, probably somewhere with poor environmental oversight

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Speaker 1: and more child labor. I talked to you about that

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Speaker 1: in two minutes Time News Talk said, b did you

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Speaker 1: see the story out yesterday where Nelson's me and Nick

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Speaker 1: Smith walked into a vineyard couldn't get a bottle of

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Speaker 1: wine in a vineyard. This was at the Ready to

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Speaker 1: Roll Gig and Nelson. They featuring Stella, the Mockers, the dudes.

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Speaker 1: He was told it's cup only apparently, and he's taken

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Speaker 1: a swipe at what he calls over zealous alcohol licensing laws.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Wine Gros chair Fabian Yukich joins me this morning, Fabian.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you thanks for being up and

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Speaker 1: early with me. What's the situation? What is the rule here?

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Speaker 2: I understand the rule is made by the Council New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Health and the police in conjunction with the winery,

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Speaker 2: but the winery doesn't get a lot of choice in it.

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Speaker 2: They can choose to go to a hearing, but they

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Speaker 2: don't want to go to a hearing that involves a

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Speaker 2: lot of time and effort and probably cost, so they

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Speaker 2: basically told what they have to do. What's the RST? Sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 2: what is the rationale? That's hard to tell. The rule

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Speaker 2: I suppose is there to perhaps stop people from drinking

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Speaker 2: too much, but in fact it's very unpractical and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't really achieve that anyway. At the type of concert

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Speaker 2: that was held at Nudo, which is one of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's most iconic wineries, it's a very relaxed affair and

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Speaker 2: you can imagine you go there with a couple of friends,

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Speaker 2: you grab a blanket and one person stays there to

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Speaker 2: hold the place in the audience. Another person goes to

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Speaker 2: get some food, and the third person goes to the

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Speaker 2: queue to get some wine and they told they're only

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Speaker 2: allowed two cups and there's three people there, so it's

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Speaker 2: an impossible and impractical situation. And that's what they faced with.

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Speaker 2: I mean Nudoff itself. The winery have got a very

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Speaker 2: good relationship with the council, but this is all about

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Speaker 2: the customer. It's about the experience, and it's the people

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Speaker 2: like next Smith to go to these concerts that are frustrated.

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Speaker 1: Is it the bottle like they worried someone will throw

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Speaker 1: a bottle because it's glass, or is it just the

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Speaker 1: amount you can get?

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm not one hundred percent sure, maybe a little

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Speaker 2: bit of both. But that winery, like a lot of

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Speaker 2: wineries around New Zealand, had experienced Nudoff itself over twenty

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Speaker 2: years of holding concerts and they've never had any problems before.

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Speaker 2: Very relaxed affair and that just doesn't happen. So you

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Speaker 2: can do risk analysis and management and say I'm going

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Speaker 2: to cut out every possibility of anything going wrong, but

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Speaker 2: in the end that becomes impractical. So a little bit

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Speaker 2: of common sense would be very helpful.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like it's a bit missing there, Fabian appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks for being with me. Fabian U Kitchen,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Wine grows chier.

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