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Speaker 1: Stateside, Richard Arnold, good morning.

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Speaker 2: He's supposed to have had millions of books. Is near you.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of books, and the books are

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Speaker 1: going for huge money. And he's got some interesting paperwork

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Speaker 1: and letters and stuff like that. If you want some glasses,

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Speaker 1: some of Dame mi Dn's glasses, Richard, just give me

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Speaker 1: the word and I lum bit on your behalf. No

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Speaker 1: problems at all. I think I'm fine, Okay, no worries.

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Speaker 1: Where are we at with this Ukraine, Russia, US, NATO?

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Speaker 2: Well, the question is Ukraine being sidelined by Trump? Ukraine's

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Speaker 2: president Zelenski is not saying so directly, but he is

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Speaker 2: saying it is quote not pleasant that Trump called Putin first,

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Speaker 2: asserting the start of peace negotiations of some sort of.

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Speaker 2: Zelenski saying also that Ukraine will not accept any peace

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Speaker 2: of it without the Ukrainian's direct involvement. This while Trump

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Speaker 2: is being disrespectful towards Zelensky. That's when Trump was asked

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Speaker 2: this particular questions.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting question. I think that we have to

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Speaker 3: make peace.

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Speaker 2: Peace on whose terms. Of course, Trump's dealings with Zelensky

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Speaker 2: started off kilter when Trump sought to withhold weapons unless

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Speaker 2: the Ukrainian leader agreed to back up fake stories about Biden.

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Speaker 2: Since then, a number of Republicans have pulled their political

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Speaker 2: backing for Ukraine. This ninety minute Trump Putin telephone call

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Speaker 2: was well. It seemed to be all about authoritarian leadership,

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Speaker 2: and Trump.

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Speaker 3: Says, I'll we dealing with President Putin largely on the phone,

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Speaker 3: and we ultimately expect to meet. In fact, we expect

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Speaker 3: that he'll come here and I'll go there, and we're

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Speaker 3: going to meet.

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Speaker 2: So this is a major shift, with the prospect of

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Speaker 2: Trump and Putin meeting first in Saudi Arabia it seams

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Speaker 2: at a time yet to be announced, and then perhaps

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Speaker 2: Putin visiting the White House or Trump in Moscow. As

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Speaker 2: for Ukraine's Zelensky and the possible enforcement of pro Russian

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Speaker 2: concessions on Ukraine concerning.

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Speaker 3: The war, why's he going to have to do what

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Speaker 3: he has to do. But you know, Hiss pull numbers

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Speaker 3: aren't particularly great.

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Speaker 2: Germany has protesting what they call quote regrettable Crump concessions

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Speaker 2: to Putin even before any peace negotiations can begin in

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Speaker 2: Brussels at NATO. The once Fox Weekend co host no

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Speaker 2: ow Us Defense Secretary Pete Heap cens has delivered some

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Speaker 2: other slams towards Ukraine, saying there can be no return

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Speaker 2: to pre war borders. Then he said also.

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Speaker 4: The United States does not believe that NATO membership for

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Speaker 4: Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement. Instead,

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Speaker 4: any security guarantee must be backed by capable European and

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Speaker 4: non European troops. If these troops are deployed as peacekeepers

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Speaker 4: to Ukraine at any point, they should be deployed as

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Speaker 4: part of a non NETO mission and they should not

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Speaker 4: be covered under Article five.

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Speaker 2: That is no requirement that an attack on one NATO

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Speaker 2: member would involve all of them. I eat no America

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Speaker 2: troops for Ukraine. Hexcess was asked if this means Ukraine

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Speaker 2: has been cut loose, if Ukraine is being betrayed by

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Speaker 2: the United States, He said no. The core between Trump

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Speaker 2: and Putin as their first confirmed conversation since Trump went

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Speaker 2: back to the White House. Any direct meeting would be

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Speaker 2: the first between the US and the Russian dictator in

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Speaker 2: about thirteen years, So a new era at a time

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Speaker 2: when authoritarian leadership is looking it seems to expand control

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Speaker 2: of others territories, Ukraine, Taiwan, Gaza. No comment on the

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Speaker 2: Trump putin contacts by Beijing.

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Speaker 1: Trump's up at seven o'clock this morning on tariff, so

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Speaker 1: we'll watch that with interest. This inflation read this week?

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Speaker 1: Are we a bit worried?

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Speaker 2: I think so. Inflation was seen, of course, by many,

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Speaker 2: as a key issue in the Trump election win. Trump

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Speaker 2: promised to deal with inflation from day one of his

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Speaker 2: new term.

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Speaker 3: Starting on day one, we will end inflation. We will

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Speaker 3: end inflation, and we will make America affordable again.

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Speaker 2: Well, not happening. Inflation has going more significantly than it

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Speaker 2: has in recent times. This raises concerns about the high

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Speaker 2: level of interest rates, with the Boss of the Fed

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Speaker 2: saying they have no thought of cutting interest rates in

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Speaker 2: the immediate future. That is being felt sharply by American consumers.

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Speaker 2: I'm very concerned. I'm already seeing price differences in their things.

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Speaker 4: Like coffee and eggs, pet food.

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Speaker 2: Even it is not only consumers who are worried by all.

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Speaker 2: This being exacerbated by Trump's threats to impose those hefty tariffs.

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Speaker 2: He says such tariffs would be devastating. The Boss of

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Speaker 2: Ford says that US carmakers would really be hit badly

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Speaker 2: by a quote windfall for Asian and European car makers

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Speaker 2: that Ford Boss says he is contacting lawmakers on Capitol

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Speaker 2: Hill about that. He says, quote, let's be honest, a

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Speaker 2: long term twenty five percent tariff across the Mexico and

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Speaker 2: Canadian border will blow a hole in the US industry

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Speaker 2: that we have never seen.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy week and make we'll see you Monday, appreciate it

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Speaker 1: very much. In fact, they're talking about total chaos in

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Speaker 1: the car industry. They've worked out or benchmark have worked

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Speaker 1: out because of course all the parts or a lot

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Speaker 1: of the parts and bits and pieces come from Mexico

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Speaker 1: and Canada. A new car would cost on average five

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and ninety dollars more than it does currently.

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