1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Gevin Gray UK correspondents with US right now, hiy Gevin, 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: either have right, So we have an answer on what 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: caused that mess of power cut and span and Portugal? 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: What is it? 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well it kind of asks more questions than it 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: answers in one sense. So back on the twenty eighth 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: of Able, that massive power cut disconnecting thousands of people 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: shortly after midday from the European electricity grid. People stuck 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: in lifts on trains, electric trains, couldn't get out the doors, 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: et cetera. So now we hear that apparently the state 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: owned grid operator had miscalculated the power capacity requirements for 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: that day and didn't quote have enough dynamic voltage capacity. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Whether regulator should have switched on 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: another thermal plant to power plant but miscalculated it and 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: decided it wasn't necessary. Then when there was the surge 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: in demand, it couldn't keep up and everything shut down. 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Now the Minister responsible blamed private Jeffertors for failing to 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: regulate the grid's voltage shortly before the blackout happened, saying 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: that should have prevented the blackout. Either way, it isn't 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: some kind of a cyber attack. It isn't anything like terrorism. 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: It was quite simply a miscalculation. Plenty of demands for 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: some serious retribution on the socialist government. 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: But what we're talking about here is an overreliance, isn't 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: it unrenewable energy and not factoring enough of the of 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: the burning stuff. 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what the government is denying, saying no, no, 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: we do have enough renewable, we do have enough thermal 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: as it were burning, But it was just miscalculators incorrectly 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: and we you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough, I understand. 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: There's just a little listen for us. They keep those 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: guests burners ready. What's the fine that twenty three and 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: me has been lumped with. 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very very substantial fine, in fact, 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: one of the toughest that the UK's privacy watchdog can issue. 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: We had a data breach back in twenty twenty three. 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: It's a genetic testing company and seven million people had 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: data stolen, including one hundred and fifty thousand Britons. And 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: that personal information that was taken by hackers included all 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: sorts of things family trees, health reports, race and ethnicity 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: information may all have been stolen along with addresses, dates 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: of birth and profile pictures. Now I think, well, why 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: should that really matter? Well, because the database shared on 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: dark web forums contained a list of almost a million 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: people who had had Ashkenazi Jewish heritage according to the 45 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: genetic profiling, and of course that could be used by Nazis, 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: far right wingers, anti Jews in order to establish where 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: somebody lived that they were of Ashkenazi Jewish heritage and 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: that could therefore lead to them being attacked. So the 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: ico's fine here in the UK of roughly four point 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: seven million New Zealand dollars is pretty big, but it's 51 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: the most severe punishment the watchdog can impose, and twenty 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: three and ME also faces other countries doing a similar 53 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: set of privacy watchdog review. The company's defenses only became 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: strong enough to halt the attack by the end of 55 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: the year a p. Twenty three it happened. So by 56 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: the end of twenty three they're in a better position. 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: And well, it looks like it's now sold or going 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: to be sold for roughly four hundred and fifty million 59 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: New Zealand dollars to the original co founder and her 60 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: nonprofit TTAM company as it's called. 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Wow, hey, really quickly, has British steel been saved? 62 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: It looks like it's okay for the time. So the 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: government tro took it out the hands of a Chinese 64 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: firm jing Yi, believing that they were deliberately running down 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: the stocks of the ingredients and we're going to simply 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: switch the furnaces off. So the government would desperate to 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: try and get it some contracts and they have. They've 68 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: got a contract with the British rail Network, so it's 69 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: rather hand in hand with the government here for three 70 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven thousand tons of track that will 71 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: secure thousands of jobs. Two months after the government used 72 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: emergency powers to prevent the blast furnaces from closure. But 73 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: the question is what next? What other contracts are on 74 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: the route? 75 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: Interesting? Devin, Thank you very much, appreciate it. Gavin great 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Are UK correspondent. 77 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 78 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 79 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.