1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from Newstalks at b. 3 00:00:13,453 --> 00:00:16,373 Speaker 2: Quarter two eleven, Non News Dogs b Doctor Brian betties 4 00:00:16,413 --> 00:00:19,533 Speaker 2: with us this morning on one of those injuries that 5 00:00:19,613 --> 00:00:22,373 Speaker 2: any of us who happen to battle away in social 6 00:00:22,493 --> 00:00:26,853 Speaker 2: sports dreads are ruptured. R Kelly's tendon. So, Brian, what 7 00:00:26,933 --> 00:00:28,293 Speaker 2: actually is the Archilly's tendon? 8 00:00:29,213 --> 00:00:34,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hijack. Well, look, it's actually the largest strongest tendon 9 00:00:34,133 --> 00:00:37,613 Speaker 3: in the human body. Now, it's a fibrous cord that 10 00:00:37,693 --> 00:00:39,813 Speaker 3: is a bit of a rope type thing that attaches 11 00:00:39,853 --> 00:00:42,773 Speaker 3: the back of our calf muscle of the lower leg 12 00:00:42,973 --> 00:00:45,853 Speaker 3: to our heel. So you can actually feel it at 13 00:00:45,853 --> 00:00:47,693 Speaker 3: the back of your ankle. It feels like like a 14 00:00:47,773 --> 00:00:49,253 Speaker 3: rope or a bit of a cord at the back 15 00:00:49,293 --> 00:00:53,173 Speaker 3: of your ankle. And it is absolutely critical to walking, 16 00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:57,013 Speaker 3: running and jumping, so very very important in terms of 17 00:00:57,013 --> 00:00:57,613 Speaker 3: our movement. 18 00:00:58,013 --> 00:01:00,773 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's absolutely vital, isn't it. But it's one 19 00:01:00,813 --> 00:01:03,173 Speaker 2: of those things that you hear people hear about people 20 00:01:03,173 --> 00:01:05,293 Speaker 2: injuring all the time. How do we actually damage it? 21 00:01:06,453 --> 00:01:08,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, look, you do hear about all the time. 22 00:01:08,773 --> 00:01:12,253 Speaker 3: You hear about in top level sports people that they've 23 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:15,493 Speaker 3: done their achilles tender. And so the commonest situation is 24 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:19,013 Speaker 3: an act of sport, So that's things like rugby, soccer, 25 00:01:19,053 --> 00:01:22,493 Speaker 3: and basketball. And the reason it happens is that the 26 00:01:22,813 --> 00:01:27,413 Speaker 3: achilles ruptures or tears apart with forceful movements such as 27 00:01:27,533 --> 00:01:31,253 Speaker 3: sprinting or jumping or quick stops and changes and movement. 28 00:01:32,333 --> 00:01:34,613 Speaker 3: Or the other place that occurs if you get direct 29 00:01:34,733 --> 00:01:37,013 Speaker 3: trauma to the ankle, so you could imagine that happened 30 00:01:37,053 --> 00:01:38,693 Speaker 3: in a rugby tackle or at the bottom of a 31 00:01:38,773 --> 00:01:42,973 Speaker 3: ruck where it gets bashed and it can suddenly tear apart. Now, 32 00:01:43,013 --> 00:01:45,533 Speaker 3: the other place that occurs is with older people. So 33 00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:47,573 Speaker 3: as you get older, it tends to get a bit afraid, 34 00:01:47,653 --> 00:01:51,533 Speaker 3: a bit weaker, and it can rupture with the slightest 35 00:01:51,573 --> 00:01:54,013 Speaker 3: things like a slight trip on a curve or something. 36 00:01:54,333 --> 00:01:56,173 Speaker 3: It can cause it to pull apart because it does 37 00:01:56,213 --> 00:01:58,933 Speaker 3: weakend as we get older. So yeah, those are probably 38 00:01:58,933 --> 00:02:00,693 Speaker 3: the two big places where it occurs. 39 00:02:00,853 --> 00:02:02,013 Speaker 2: What are the symptoms. 40 00:02:03,173 --> 00:02:06,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, so look, if if it happens, you know it's happened. Look, 41 00:02:06,813 --> 00:02:10,853 Speaker 3: it's a very very sudden, sharp pain at the back 42 00:02:10,893 --> 00:02:14,053 Speaker 3: of the lower leg or heel, and often a companied 43 00:02:14,093 --> 00:02:16,333 Speaker 3: by a popping or a snapping sound. So that's what 44 00:02:16,373 --> 00:02:19,053 Speaker 3: people describe. They said, I heard this sort of snap 45 00:02:19,213 --> 00:02:22,573 Speaker 3: that actually occurred, and you are suddenly unable to walk. 46 00:02:22,893 --> 00:02:25,573 Speaker 3: And the critical one is you can't stand on tipy toes, 47 00:02:25,613 --> 00:02:29,653 Speaker 3: so tiptoes you cannot do it. There's marked swelling at 48 00:02:29,653 --> 00:02:33,293 Speaker 3: the bottom of the back of the leg and sometimes 49 00:02:33,333 --> 00:02:36,373 Speaker 3: you can actually feel if you polp take down the cord, 50 00:02:36,413 --> 00:02:39,133 Speaker 3: you can actually feel a gap or an indent at 51 00:02:39,133 --> 00:02:42,253 Speaker 3: where the ruptures occurred, so you can actually feel it sometimes. 52 00:02:42,573 --> 00:02:44,493 Speaker 3: But the big thing is you can't walk on this thing, 53 00:02:44,733 --> 00:02:46,773 Speaker 3: and you can't stand on tiptoes. It's just impossible. 54 00:02:47,173 --> 00:02:47,373 Speaker 1: Is it. 55 00:02:47,413 --> 00:02:50,173 Speaker 2: Does it continue to be painful after the excellent incident 56 00:02:50,293 --> 00:02:52,853 Speaker 2: or is it once it's erupted and popped? Is it 57 00:02:52,933 --> 00:02:54,613 Speaker 2: kind of does the pain subside a bit? 58 00:02:55,333 --> 00:02:57,853 Speaker 3: No? No, No, it's very painful, and people come limping into 59 00:02:57,853 --> 00:02:59,813 Speaker 3: the surgery until you start to get into what's called 60 00:02:59,853 --> 00:03:02,413 Speaker 3: a moon boot or get some definitive treatment. So no, 61 00:03:03,053 --> 00:03:05,453 Speaker 3: So initially, if it does occur, get ice onto it, 62 00:03:05,573 --> 00:03:07,813 Speaker 3: rest it up, don't walk on it, and start to 63 00:03:07,813 --> 00:03:10,853 Speaker 3: take some pain relief like parasital over brief and until 64 00:03:10,893 --> 00:03:11,733 Speaker 3: you can see the doctor. 65 00:03:11,893 --> 00:03:14,933 Speaker 2: Okay, once you do see the doctor, what happens. 66 00:03:15,693 --> 00:03:18,093 Speaker 3: Yes, Look, we generally examine it. We do this very 67 00:03:18,133 --> 00:03:20,293 Speaker 3: particular test where we get you to kneel on the 68 00:03:20,293 --> 00:03:22,933 Speaker 3: bed and we squeeze your calf muscle in and if 69 00:03:23,013 --> 00:03:25,413 Speaker 3: the tendon is intact, we can see the foot or 70 00:03:25,453 --> 00:03:27,773 Speaker 3: the ankle move, but if it's not, it just doesn't move, 71 00:03:27,933 --> 00:03:30,493 Speaker 3: so we know that it's ruptured. And sometimes we feel 72 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:32,693 Speaker 3: down and we can feel this indient. So if that happens, 73 00:03:32,693 --> 00:03:35,533 Speaker 3: we generally get an ultrasound or an MRI to see, 74 00:03:35,773 --> 00:03:37,933 Speaker 3: Look how bad is it. Has it fully ruptured or 75 00:03:37,973 --> 00:03:41,133 Speaker 3: partially just torn? And if we know that's the case, 76 00:03:41,253 --> 00:03:44,013 Speaker 3: is generally two things we can do about it. Now, 77 00:03:44,173 --> 00:03:47,133 Speaker 3: if you're older, you're not an athlete and it's not 78 00:03:47,253 --> 00:03:49,893 Speaker 3: so time critical, we will generally put you in a 79 00:03:50,053 --> 00:03:53,053 Speaker 3: what's called a moon boot, which provides some support to 80 00:03:53,093 --> 00:03:56,053 Speaker 3: the ankle. Get to start to walk around on it 81 00:03:56,173 --> 00:03:58,213 Speaker 3: raises a heel and you'll be in that for about 82 00:03:58,213 --> 00:04:00,773 Speaker 3: six months, so it starts to heel itself up and 83 00:04:00,973 --> 00:04:04,773 Speaker 3: often it'll do that, so it's very good at doing that. However, 84 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:08,693 Speaker 3: for those younger people, especially top level athletes, generally they 85 00:04:08,733 --> 00:04:12,213 Speaker 3: end up seeing an orthopedic surgeon and within two weeks 86 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:15,013 Speaker 3: we'll have an operation on the tender itself so to 87 00:04:15,053 --> 00:04:18,453 Speaker 3: try and sew it back together again. And once that's 88 00:04:18,573 --> 00:04:21,413 Speaker 3: done your recovery time you're probably looking at three to 89 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:27,293 Speaker 3: six months before you're fully recovered up about requires rehab, physio, 90 00:04:27,453 --> 00:04:30,293 Speaker 3: quite an extensive program to get you back and running. 91 00:04:30,373 --> 00:04:34,293 Speaker 3: So look, if it happens, it's not great, but you 92 00:04:34,413 --> 00:04:36,253 Speaker 3: do get better at the end of it. But it 93 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:36,973 Speaker 3: takes some time. 94 00:04:37,853 --> 00:04:39,973 Speaker 2: It's so miserable, isn't it. So is there anything I 95 00:04:39,973 --> 00:04:41,533 Speaker 2: can do just to avoid it? I mean, I just 96 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:42,973 Speaker 2: don't get old. I guess it's the key. 97 00:04:43,413 --> 00:04:45,813 Speaker 3: Well, well, don't get old and don't play rugby or soccer. 98 00:04:46,013 --> 00:04:49,253 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, No. 99 00:04:49,173 --> 00:04:52,253 Speaker 3: Look, look I'm staying fit, all those things, warm ups 100 00:04:52,293 --> 00:04:56,213 Speaker 3: before you play sport, staying fit, you know, is really 101 00:04:56,253 --> 00:05:00,173 Speaker 3: really important. But occasionally it's just one of those things 102 00:05:00,213 --> 00:05:00,773 Speaker 3: that occurs. 103 00:05:01,053 --> 00:05:03,493 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Hey, thank you so much, Brian, appreciate 104 00:05:03,493 --> 00:05:05,053 Speaker 2: your time. As always, doctor Brian Betty. 105 00:05:05,133 --> 00:05:09,333 Speaker 1: There more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 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