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Speaker 1: It's nineteen away from five six.

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Speaker 1: The winner of the gold medal and the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: The crane has dropped the boat basically, in simple terms,

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Speaker 3: it's at the cradle probably from about twenty feet three

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Speaker 3: four oh.

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Speaker 4: Now go away, shoppy, that is I said, I wasn't

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Speaker 5: That is probably the worst call of the season.

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Speaker 1: Team has been incredible off the field for us and

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Speaker 1: that's an opportunity for him to be tis fishing vichon

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Speaker 1: we need in the higher sports title. This evening, Elliott

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Speaker 1: Smith Newstalk z'd be rugby commentator in Joe Berg and

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Speaker 1: Nicky steyras sports journalist. Hello you too, good a day, Elliot.

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Speaker 1: What's the time in Joe Berg?

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Speaker 4: Just gone half past seven in the morning, so bright

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Speaker 4: new and that before game day, looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: You've been robbed yet.

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Speaker 4: Not yet right, So every day I talk it up

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Speaker 4: on the board and say thank you for that. No, look,

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Speaker 4: I'm thank you loving it here. I mean, you know

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Speaker 4: you've got to take the treat the restrictions is as

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Speaker 4: you know, hither and you know, pretty stick close to

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Speaker 4: your hotel as much as you can.

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Speaker 5: Butt scenery. But it's good. What was that where they

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Speaker 5: put you?

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Speaker 1: Where's your hotel?

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Speaker 5: We're in Santon.

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Speaker 1: Oh, everybody goes to Santon, but that's it's like a

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Speaker 1: fifteen minute trip in Dallas Park, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: You haven't been as yet, So keeping that one for

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Speaker 5: game day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So have you got armored vehicles?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? You're not just going to be

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Speaker 5: Are you? No, we're still well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted I don't want to give away my

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Speaker 4: security arrangements none, but yeah, we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry. Don't worry about that's a nikki.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been there?

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Speaker 3: I have. Actually I was there when the Black Cats

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Speaker 3: I was sort of I was terrifying, yeah, because I

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Speaker 5: And I basically was just like I felt like I

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Speaker 3: I was just stuck in the hotel thinking, oh, I

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Speaker 3: can't go out, I can't do anything, I'm going.

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Speaker 5: To be murdered.

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Speaker 3: Of course I wasn't murder because I wouldn't be talking

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Speaker 3: to you today. But I don't know how things have changed.

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Speaker 3: But yes, I have definitely been there.

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Speaker 5: But I'm a little bit jealous of Elliott right now.

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Speaker 1: Ellia's doing a good job.

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Speaker 1: Actually I almost got carjacked when I was there, so

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Speaker 1: I might tell that story later on. But anyway, listen,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the America's Cup, Nikki. So

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Speaker 1: the America's Cup boat got dropped by the crane. Are

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Speaker 1: we stuffed or is it going to be fine? Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, look it'll be fine. I think the good thing

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Speaker 3: about it is when these things happen and you've got

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Speaker 3: Hordle back up and running in time for the October

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Speaker 3: America's Cup. What it does tell me, though, is it

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Speaker 3: just shows the vulnerability of these vessels, you know, like

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Speaker 3: and say, well, if it does drop you know, if

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Speaker 3: if it's sabotage, whatever, this whole America's Cup can be

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Speaker 1: Too, Right, Elliott, how do you drop? How does a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd think this would be the one thing that

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Speaker 4: you would make sure would not absolutely happen. Look, accidents

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Speaker 4: just seems like one of those ones that you'd be

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Speaker 4: ultimately protected against if you were teen New Zealands. And

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Speaker 4: as Nickcki said, around this because they're only in the

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Speaker 4: But least just hope the damage isn't too bad. You

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Speaker 4: their America's Cup. Dream really so hopefully they get in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully. So all right, guys, we have to talk

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Speaker 1: about the All Blacks chances of Dallas Park.

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Speaker 2: Will do that next the Friday Sports Huddled with New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Southeby's international Realty, unparalleled reach and results right.

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Speaker 1: Well with Elliot Smith and Nicky Styris. Elliott, what do

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Speaker 1: you reckon? How do you rate our chances against the

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Speaker 4: I think the All Blacks are certainly underdogs for this

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Speaker 4: match home advantage for the spring Box. They have improved

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Speaker 4: since last year's World Cup. I think the All Blacks

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Speaker 4: we probably haven't seen the game plan or the breakout

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Speaker 4: performance apart from maybe that one against Argentina excuse met

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Speaker 4: Blacks team. So it is a daunting trip at the

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Speaker 4: best of times, and when South Africa is in the

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Speaker 4: new things under Russia Rasmus since he's taken back charge

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Speaker 4: Will Kappa wouldn't rule the All Blacks out, but I

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Speaker 4: certainly think they're going into this game is underdogs and

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Speaker 1: Your time makes it exciting, ain't Nikki?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think however, you look at this match, it

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Speaker 3: is mouthwatering Rassie versus Razor. I mean, what more could

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Speaker 3: you ask? It's a World Cup rematch that we haven't

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Speaker 3: It's head to hear it's going to be really close,

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Speaker 3: So you can't You're not going to get a better

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Speaker 3: this spring Box have suffered. Yes, they've got Exbeth back

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Speaker 3: I think if the All Blacks can nullify the box

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Speaker 3: You know they've got to beat them up front to

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Speaker 3: mighty Williams, Cody Taylor, Terrello, Max. I've got a big

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Speaker 3: job on their hands. But you know I've got that

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Speaker 3: alarm set heither. But you haven't. No, Oh, hell no,

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Speaker 3: because you've got a toddler.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a toddler. I'm free this week. I

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Speaker 3: I might as well watch it.

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Speaker 1: What happened to your whole family? Where have they gone?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: One's gone to Hamilton to meet the boyfriend and the

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Speaker 3: other one's gone on a golf trip through it.

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Speaker 1: So how good Cardia your place? Wait for those days

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Speaker 1: sure that somebody's alive. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Listen this business with the bunker, Aliet. Did you even

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Speaker 1: get the chance to watch the Warriors? Did they even

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Speaker 5: No, there's no sign of the NRRAL doesn't doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: What happened to.

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Speaker 5: The bunker is a flawed concept.

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Speaker 4: I think, honestly, I've been trying to advocate for the

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Speaker 4: removal of all TMO and sport. I think that's the

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Speaker 4: way forward. I think we've gone far too far in

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Warriors get a raw deal from

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Speaker 4: so I think that's the problem. It's poor across. If

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Speaker 4: there are some dreadful calls. So I think removing the

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Speaker 5: To say, is this.

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Speaker 1: Even a bunker problem? Nicky, because surely the ref standing

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't normally like to agree with the person

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Speaker 5: He's spot on.

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Speaker 3: The actual standard of refereeing is not up to it,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately the bunker isn't up to it either. If

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Speaker 3: and they have to get the decision right, and they

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Speaker 3: are failing in this. You cannot use subjective opinion within

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Speaker 3: For instance, you can't sit there and say that Sam

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Speaker 3: Kaine's infringement was worse than Sir Calisis and use mitigating circumstances.

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Speaker 3: It must be completely objective.

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Speaker 1: So when a knock to the head, regardless of how

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to use technology, use it what it's

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Speaker 3: there for. It shows you the infringent frame by frame. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it is not subjective. It shouldn't be subjective, and unfortunately

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Speaker 3: I think that subjectivity has come into the bunker and

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Speaker 3: it's not right. Take all that aside, though the NRL

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Speaker 3: bunker is atrocious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, aliet, this is why we like cricket, right,

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Speaker 1: because you either struck the battle you didn't. You either

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Speaker 1: you didn't. There's no none ofther's fluffing around nonsense that

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Speaker 1: Nick's talking about.

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Speaker 4: No, and I think cricket's the ones but where it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and cricket.

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Speaker 4: I mean the hawky thing is that you know it

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Speaker 4: But I think it's one of the sports where it's

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Speaker 4: You know, Rugby and rugby league have gone in the

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Speaker 4: it's just another human sitting in a box. They're just

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Speaker 1: and Elliott. Please take care out there and try to

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