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Speaker 1: Now. Minister for Children Karen Shaw yesterday announced more money

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Speaker 1: for ordering a Tamadiki staff professional training forty one million

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Speaker 1: dollars for the residential workforce. She said the funds will

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Speaker 1: go towards uplifting the number of staff with quote professional qualifications.

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Speaker 1: Jane sill Is Child Matter CEO with me this morning.

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Speaker 1: Hi Jane, good morning, Ryan, Thanks for being with me.

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Speaker 1: So what exactly do the staff need training for?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've known there's been this has been an issue

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Speaker 2: for years and years. It's been identifying reports. The kids

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Speaker 2: they're dealing with are really high needs and complex, and

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Speaker 2: we've known that the staff didn't have the training to

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Speaker 2: know how to meet their needs, deal with the escalate situations.

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Speaker 2: So I'm happy to see the investment in the space.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what exactly you know? Have we got examples of

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Speaker 1: things that are going wrong?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've known for a long time that the staff

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Speaker 2: went suited. They didn't know how to deal with the

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Speaker 2: trauma thest kids go through, They didn't know how to

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Speaker 2: de escalate situations. Is a good one. You know that

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Speaker 2: takes a lot of one key and a lot of

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Speaker 2: expertise to actually make a difference when you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: some of our most high risk kids, and we were

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Speaker 2: having staff that didn't have that expertise, and there was

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Speaker 2: high turnover and there just wasn't any consistency of training.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so who's going to do all this training?

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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 1: Are there people they're ready to go and do it

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Speaker 1: once the money is free?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that we've had the details release

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Speaker 2: of exactly who it's going to be, but my understanding

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Speaker 2: is is they want to get experts in certain areas

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Speaker 2: to do that. How they implement this is going to

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Speaker 2: be the key. So the amount I'm I'm happy to

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Speaker 2: see good investment. In fact, i'd like to see that

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Speaker 2: a cross training right across Old Rang and somebody key.

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Speaker 2: But how they actually do that and how they make

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Speaker 2: that a difference, that's going to be the key, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Well it will be how much time they have for

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Speaker 1: each case is also pretty crucial, isn't it, Because I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're going in and trying to do a quick

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Speaker 1: job on a very broken child, I imagine that's not

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Speaker 1: a sustainable way to go about business.

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Speaker 2: Not all, it won't make any donts, it's years and

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Speaker 2: years of work that it takes to actually fully support

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Speaker 2: these kids to be able to make the changes that

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Speaker 2: we need. So we've got five residents of New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and by my calculations, about one hundred and seventy one

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Speaker 2: spaces that can be filled. So there all fill. That's

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Speaker 2: a significant amount of young people that we need to

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Speaker 2: support long term. So it's a big undertaking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly is Jane appreciate your I cross that this

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Speaker 1: morning for us. Jane cell Child Matters CEO. For more

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