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Speaker 2: B Well you welcome to our new moves and social

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Speaker 2: housing as money deals to struck with banks. Speaking of

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Speaker 2: House's new statu show the market is moving on the up.

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Speaker 2: We talked to the new pharmac CEO, the R three

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Speaker 2: sixty Rugby. This is the one out of Saudi seems real.

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Speaker 2: The player raid is on Mardia limbsback in for a

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Speaker 2: catch up after eight jos and Italy and de Brady

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Speaker 2: does the UK asking welcome to Thursday seven past six.

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Speaker 2: Now forget the detail of the power reforms we dealt

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Speaker 2: with them yesterday. Let's deal with the politics of this

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Speaker 2: and a habit the government has that is hurting them.

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Speaker 2: There's a pattern here. The patterns the government tell us

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Speaker 2: there's something wrong. Could be banks, could be supermarkets, could

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Speaker 2: be power companies, could be airlines. The last government had

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Speaker 2: the same problem they took on petrol stations. The concern

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Speaker 2: is partially real. It's real because one there might be,

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Speaker 2: you know, bits and pieces of the sector that could

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Speaker 2: do with some tightening. Or tidying, and two thres almost

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Speaker 2: always consume concerned. Now, the consumer angst is part of

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Speaker 2: the problem, because the consumer will always see a problem,

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Speaker 2: whether there is one or not. That's why lazy journalists

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Speaker 2: do vox pops. Is butter too expensive? The answer will

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Speaker 2: always be yes. Doesn't mean that's a problem the government

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Speaker 2: can solve. So having stated the problem, you've then created

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Speaker 2: the expectation that you will do something about it. Trouble

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Speaker 2: with yesterday's power deal was the obligatory report suggested more

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Speaker 2: than actually eventuated by the time they got around making

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Speaker 2: a final decision. Hence the reputation and the reputation is

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Speaker 2: of a government that talks a lot, does a lot,

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Speaker 2: but the lot doesn't amount to much. Yesterday was your

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Speaker 2: classic example. The EA gets clearer writing instructions big deal.

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Speaker 2: The industry had a perception removed that the government don't

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Speaker 2: want to get into big projects. While a phone call

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Speaker 2: would have sorted that one, I would have thought, we

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Speaker 2: are to import in several years some LPG great. Nothing

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Speaker 2: wrong with any of that, and it would have landed

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Speaker 2: well if they hadn't given you the sense that reform

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Speaker 2: capital letters was on the way. Personally I've never thought

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Speaker 2: the industry is that broken. I mean labor and the

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Speaker 2: oil and gas debarkle for several years while we wait

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Speaker 2: for the windmills. But at Coldbridge is that gap. Like

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Speaker 2: butter and indeed airlines, there is generally logic as to

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Speaker 2: why things are the way they are. The report fell flat,

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Speaker 2: not because what was in it made no sense or

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Speaker 2: hurt an industry, but because it had a is that

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Speaker 2: it kind of feel about it, and it had that

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Speaker 2: feel about it because the government haven't worked out the

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Speaker 2: balance between hype and reality of their passion projects. Where

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Speaker 2: trouble sits allegedly banks, airlines, supermarkets, or power, namely the

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Speaker 2: one that materially is different because of what they did,

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Speaker 2: not what they said politically, that's their failing.

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Speaker 3: News of the world. In ninety seconds, you.

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Speaker 2: Were shutdowns on The next bit is the game of blame?

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Speaker 2: Does this look partisan?

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Speaker 4: Does this look dirty to you?

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Speaker 5: Twenty four pages to fund the government, nothing more, nothing laws,

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Speaker 5: nothing else.

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Speaker 2: Chuck. It was in the meeting with Trump. Look up

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Speaker 2: the photo. By the way, if you haven't seen that,

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Speaker 2: the Trump twenty twenty eight hits are really funny. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: you know who he blames.

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Speaker 6: The Republicans thought that they could barrel us into a

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Speaker 6: shutdown because they didn't want to protect the healthcare of

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Speaker 6: the American people.

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Speaker 3: Well now they've seen they can't bully us.

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Speaker 2: A few hours up the road in New York, we

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Speaker 2: got a building collapse in the Bronx.

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Speaker 7: This time, we have no loss of life or no injuries.

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Speaker 7: Frosty's finders quickly arrived on the scene and investigation is

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Speaker 7: currently under way to determine the cause of the incident.

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Speaker 7: We're still investigating to make that determination.

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Speaker 2: Then and broken a couple of things both from courts.

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Speaker 2: One the creeps from the Rochdale grooming gang got sentence

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Speaker 2: which will hopefully bring some form of closure for the victims.

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Speaker 8: Both women not only gave evidence during the trial, but

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Speaker 8: have assisted the court further by providing victim personal statements

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Speaker 8: describing in tragic detail the trauma they have parage for decades.

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Speaker 2: And Baroni is mine Michelle Mohne, who got her not

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Speaker 2: for services to lingerie. You can't make that up anyway.

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Speaker 2: She provided Dodgy ppe Ppe gear to the hospitals during COVID,

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Speaker 2: so the court is making her play one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty million quid Chancellor Thrill.

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Speaker 9: The previous government gave out contracts through a vip lane,

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Speaker 9: which we were very critical of at the time, and

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Speaker 9: the ppe provided by that company was not up to

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Speaker 9: the standards, and that's why we have pursued this in

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Speaker 9: the courts to get the money back.

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Speaker 2: Now the problem is moans appear and Rachel, as much

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Speaker 2: as she would like to, would like to get rid

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Speaker 2: talk to Indre about that later. In all sorts of

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Speaker 2: upset in Hollywood, of course over Tilly, Nor would Tilly's

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Speaker 2: in thespiring actress, except she isn't. She's AI.

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Speaker 10: We have to protect what we look like, not just actors,

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Speaker 10: but we have to protect our faces, our voices from

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Speaker 10: anyone taking them and using them in whatever way they wish.

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Speaker 2: Emily Blunts particularly exercise letters News of the World in

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Speaker 2: ninety loss at the Supreme Court for Trump. Lisa Cook,

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Speaker 2: who's the Fed Governor. She remains in her job until

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Speaker 2: they can do oral arguments in January, so that hasn't

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Speaker 2: gone well. Also overnight, interestingly, we don't know why the

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Speaker 2: E J and Tony. He's pulled the nomination. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people said, this guy doesn't have a clue what

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Speaker 2: not given a reason for it. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 11: Talks EB.

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Speaker 2: From our Fun Numbers Game, I can tell you this

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Speaker 2: morning that in video yesterday crashed through four and a

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Speaker 2: Andrew Callahan, good morning, yeah, very good morning. Right, building consents,

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Speaker 2: are we building a hammers swinging?

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Speaker 12: I see catality of release their latest property sort of

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Speaker 11: But if you're channeling the glass half.

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Speaker 11: Is stable, Mike. And stable is.

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Speaker 12: Good because predictable is good. It creates dependable expectations, doesn't it.

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Speaker 12: And I think that characterization is very appropriate for the

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Speaker 12: it gives visibility and predictability to what's going to happen

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Speaker 12: at least legally without a consent. So yet another case

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Speaker 12: here of sort of building the base, mic building the base.

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Speaker 12: For twenty twenty six and the twelve months to the

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Speaker 12: end of August twenty twenty five, thirty four thousand and

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Speaker 12: seventy eight new homes were consented. So that's a one

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Speaker 12: point three increase on the twelve months to August twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty four, still massively down, of course, on the crazy

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Speaker 12: times of twenty one and twenty two. That small up

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Speaker 12: driven by multi unit developments in Auckland and Otago. We

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Speaker 12: and go. But August twenty five was notably better than

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Speaker 12: August twenty four. But Mike, what's really striking to me

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Speaker 12: And if I look at the season the adjusted monthly numbers,

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Speaker 12: two years where the numbers just stayed completely stable. Now,

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Speaker 11: The Tager is up sixteen percent. I don't know what's

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Speaker 11: I guess that's where you get the lift.

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Speaker 11: But I think what would happen?

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Speaker 12: What does happen here, Mike, is that that stability that

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Speaker 12: it will be right sizing, it will be adjusting. I

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Speaker 12: suppose to that very stable consistent demand. So in other words,

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Speaker 2: And that's good, okay. And then we come to the

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Speaker 11: Well, it did and in sort of places.

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Speaker 12: so we'll keep it at a pretty high level.

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Speaker 11: Quick look at those market reactions.

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Speaker 12: The main recommendations, so these are for listeners out there,

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Speaker 12: We're trying to keep those listeners well informed. Bike And

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Speaker 12: here's the here's the main guts of it. An energy

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Speaker 12: gentiles except Contact. I guess there's been some uncertainty over

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Speaker 12: some uncertainty. They will use what they've got as government

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Speaker 12: ENERGYMND to potentially sign long term purchase agreements. This happens

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Speaker 12: in other countries as well. They're using their suggesting stronger

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Speaker 11: Hasn't got a lot of got a lot of press.

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Speaker 11: They're going to what they say they're going to.

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Speaker 12: Try and boost the electricity distribution businesses efficiency.

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Speaker 11: These are the lines companies now.

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Speaker 12: The Frontier report actually recommended quite a lot more drastic reaction.

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Speaker 11: There's twenty nine of these.

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Speaker 12: They're saying this should be less so the market reaction

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Speaker 12: might positive, but not massive.

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Speaker 11: Meridian the most positive reaction, up four point sixte percent.

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Speaker 11: That's a good move.

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Speaker 12: Genesis two point one three percent. I would make the

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Speaker 12: comment like this is this doesn't feel transformative, does it.

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Speaker 11: It's because I'm trying to find a sort of a

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Speaker 11: word for it. I see the words being used a

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Speaker 12: I think that's a good description methodical, But it doesn't

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Speaker 12: feel earth shatteringly different, does it.

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Speaker 2: That Royal episode, as I say, is out tomorrow. Well,

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Speaker 2: Who knows. So the Power Reforms Mercury, they're one of

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Speaker 2: of ten ten they couldn't have done more one they

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Speaker 2: The LPG part of that equation is that is that

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Speaker 14: You can see, it's going to be challenging. There's been

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Speaker 14: a number of studies that have taken place to look

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Speaker 14: at what the options are actually a number of options

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Speaker 14: that the L and G is one, but there are others,

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Speaker 14: including the Huntley Fermi option and expanding that. Maybe some

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Speaker 14: diesel pecking, but we do need some form of firming

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Speaker 14: support for those tripe periods. But there are other options

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Speaker 14: in addition to L and G.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate your insight, Stuart Hamilton. Who is the

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Speaker 2: firming term? If you're not aware of, it's just that

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Speaker 2: it's the gap, it's what you need in between what

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Speaker 2: you want and what you've got so cold the coal

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Speaker 2: Huntly deal is currently it's so in other words, when

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Speaker 2: things don't blow and the sun doesn't shine and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't rain, you fire up the cold. That's firming. Stuart

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Speaker 2: Hamilton out of Mercury. Let's go to Rome. Shortly eighteen to.

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Speaker 2: very Goan News got a nice email yesterday. I remember

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Speaker 2: I told you about the Starship Supercar show a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago at Giltraps and Auckland. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people came in from around the country given the school

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Speaker 2: holidays and all the money raised going to Starship Foundation.

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Speaker 2: And for this year they raised two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: two thousand dollars. So well done if you went along

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Speaker 2: and you made a contribution two hundred and thirty two

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So since twenty one they've had three shows

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Speaker 2: they've raised six hundred and thirty five thousand dollars. Not bad.

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Speaker 2: A fourteen to.

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Speaker 15: Two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 15: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Bie Time joined the Keenna Morning.

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Speaker 16: Good money made now just.

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Speaker 2: I was reading about this the other day, so do

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Speaker 2: do correct me if I've cocked this up. But the

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Speaker 2: regional elections, I think there are seven this year regions

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Speaker 2: and Lamark I might have been the main one because

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Speaker 2: that tests Maloney. Maloney wanted to do well and I

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Speaker 2: think she has. Am I correct ish.

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Speaker 17: She has done well. I'm not sure if there are

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Speaker 17: seven this year. I know we've had the Mark election,

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Speaker 17: We've got Umbria, Umbria and Sardinia was last year, and

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Speaker 17: we've got a couple coming up in Colubria and Tuscany.

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Speaker 17: But anyway, she's done really well in Markee, that's considered

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Speaker 17: really a bell weather, a lot of support for Maloney

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Speaker 17: in that region and the regional governor there, Francesco A. Coroli,

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Speaker 17: from her party, was re elected with fifty two percent

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Speaker 17: of the vote. It's good news for Maloney as she

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Speaker 17: comes up to her third anniversary.

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Speaker 2: So how regional is that? Would you have expected her

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Speaker 2: to do well there or does this suggestion's traveling well nationally.

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Speaker 17: Look, I think she's always had very strong support in

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Speaker 17: that region, and at the same time, I think there's

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Speaker 17: still quite a lot of support for her nationwide. Her

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Speaker 17: Brother's of Italy party governs fourteen of Italy's twenty regions

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Speaker 17: and is certainly easily the most popular party in the country.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're into local body elections at the moment

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand and no one's turning up. Does anyone

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Speaker 2: turn up? In Italy?

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Speaker 17: I think they had about fifty percent of a turnout,

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Speaker 17: which wasn't that impressive.

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Speaker 2: Woh, that's interesting. We've got currently we're running at about

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Speaker 2: ten so, oh, okay, well done. You Now this Denmark thing,

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Speaker 2: is anything material going to come out of it? Or

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Speaker 2: we just gathered around for another meeting.

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Speaker 16: It's hard to say.

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Speaker 17: I think it's important to note a sense of panic

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Speaker 17: among some of the leaders, and we've certainly seen that

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Speaker 17: from the Danish Prime Minister Meta Frederickson, worried about these

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Speaker 17: drone attacks apparently coming from Russia inside Denmark. The Prime

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Speaker 17: Minister Georgia Maloney says, don't react to provocations. We need

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Speaker 17: to build up our defense, remember though NATO is such

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Speaker 17: a huge.

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Speaker 16: Area, and don't forget us on the southern.

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Speaker 2: Side, okay, because he says Frederickson says, we need a

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Speaker 2: very strong answer back. And I just wonder how many

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Speaker 2: meetings you have before there is a strong answer back

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Speaker 2: as opposed to just yet another meeting.

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Speaker 16: But we may not see a response.

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Speaker 17: But I think all of them are taking this as

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Speaker 17: a note to really do something more quickly about building

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Speaker 17: up defense. And that's the message we're getting from the

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Speaker 17: Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosseto.

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Speaker 16: Italy is not prepared. They need to do more.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I know that, Maloney, you're speaking out about this

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Speaker 2: flotilla as they head towards Gaza, as she particularly worried

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Speaker 2: about Greta, is she?

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Speaker 17: I think she's worried about obviously some sort of violent

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Speaker 17: incident tonight. We're seeing reports that there's some kind of

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Speaker 17: state of emergency on board. As Israeli ships are now

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Speaker 17: approaching this flotilla, the Turkish navy apparently has intervened and

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Speaker 17: removed eleven Turkish activists from the flotilla. And as we

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Speaker 17: edge closer to Gaza, the Prime Minister doesn't want to

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Speaker 17: see anything that's going to provoke any kind of conflict

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Speaker 17: or threaten the peace proposals coming from the US President

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: You I'm not surprised, actually speaking, you have fifty percent

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Speaker 2: turn up to bite. What about the fifty percent of

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Speaker 2: the pay text. I would have said half of people

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Speaker 2: paying tax was quite good for Italy given its reputation.

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Speaker 16: It's not a good look at the moment.

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Speaker 17: I thought that the Italians had done a lot more

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Speaker 17: to improve the tax collection.

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Speaker 16: But the latest figures show that only.

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Speaker 17: Half of Italians pay income tax.

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Speaker 2: When they legitimately or it should be ninety percent. But

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Speaker 2: you know, they don't have a system that tracks everybody down.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think people are underestimating their income and that's

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Speaker 17: what gets them through. But now the experts are questioning

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Speaker 17: that credibility.

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Speaker 2: Nice to catch up Joe scene next Thursday. Appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much. Joe mckenner out of Rome and Italy the Dutch.

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Speaker 2: Just while I'm in that particular part of the world,

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Speaker 2: Zasa Chance. It's famous, very picturesque sort of place. Nobody

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Speaker 2: lives there. There's got a population of about one hundred people,

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Speaker 2: but two and a half million people visited every year.

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Speaker 2: It's got a lot of windmills, very pretty. So they've

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Speaker 2: started to charge people for that and think that's a

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Speaker 2: good idea, So about thirty five forty quid to go there.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't think. Apparently, the tourists don't think because

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Speaker 2: the population is so small. They think it's just like

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Speaker 2: a movie set. So they wandering through the gardens and

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Speaker 2: they walk into people's houses, and they urinate in the gardens,

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Speaker 2: and they knock on the doors, and they take pictures.

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Speaker 2: When they use selfie sticks to peek insite the houses,

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Speaker 2: they're surprises if you low. So the locals are a

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Speaker 2: bit sick about that, so they start charging people. Nine

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Lake, locking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news dogs, they'd.

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Speaker 2: Be welly, Mike, I can't help but think I'm missing something.

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Speaker 2: Hopkins and Meghan Wood can obviously see the carnage they've

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Speaker 2: created by their poor decision to stop gas exploration, Yet

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Speaker 2: they continue to be belligerent in holding this country to ransom.

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Speaker 2: No business person would stand by a decision like this,

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Speaker 2: yet they think it's okay. Graham, I'm not sure that

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Speaker 2: they are missing something, or you're missing something. It's called politics.

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Speaker 2: It's not business. Business people own up to poor decisions.

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Speaker 2: Politicians don't. Necessarily. I noted Megan came out yesterday. You

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Speaker 2: don't see much of her anymore, do you really? She

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Speaker 2: came out yesterday and thought one of the things they

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Speaker 2: could have done is put solar on schools, as though

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Speaker 2: that's kind of going to materially change the energy landscape

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand. That's the problem with these people. And

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Speaker 2: of course they're hiding or they're doing the dirty work

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Speaker 2: for Jacinda who's left the country of course and left

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Speaker 2: them to pick up the mess. But you can't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what are they going to do other than go, yep,

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Speaker 2: absolute cock up, sorry about that. And you're never going

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Speaker 2: to hear that from politicians, are you, by the way,

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Speaker 2: from Bastards Incorporated? How about Snapchat this morning? If you're

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Speaker 2: storing photos they call them memories, photos and videos, are

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Speaker 2: you being able to do that for nothing? Now they're

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Speaker 2: going to charge you. They get you every which way,

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Speaker 2: don't they, And then once they've charged you, once they're

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Speaker 2: going to charge you some more. You watch where this

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Speaker 2: goes five minutes away from seven, all.

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Speaker 15: The ins and the ouse, it's the fizz with business favor,

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Speaker 15: take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Employment hero. This is Global Annual Jobs Reports. So we

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Speaker 2: got two and a half million employees, three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand businesses around the planet, thirty three percent of venues.

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Speaker 2: Zealand does now have multiple jobs. The third of us

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Speaker 2: have multiple jobs more than one job. Makes us the

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Speaker 2: second highest country for multiple jobs only behind Australia. We're

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Speaker 2: at thirty four percent, so they're thirty four we're thirty

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Speaker 2: three of those here, thirty percent, so third of the third.

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Speaker 2: So they're doing it just to earn enough money. And

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Speaker 2: is it young, Well sort of, maybe forty seven percent.

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Speaker 2: So we're down to forty seven percent of the third,

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Speaker 2: so not a third of the third, but we're a

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Speaker 2: forty seven percent of the third eighteen to twenty four

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Speaker 2: year olds. They're working. Mind you, one of our kids

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Speaker 2: has got four jobs at the moment. And they've got

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Speaker 2: four jobs. I mean, yes, to make ends meet, because

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Speaker 2: all young people have jobs to make ends meat obviously,

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Speaker 2: but four jobs because that's what they want to do

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Speaker 2: and it gives them variety and flexibility. It's the gig economy.

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Speaker 2: They said the other day, I am the gig economy,

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Speaker 2: so they're doing it voluntarily and happily. So so just

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Speaker 2: because you've got more than one job doesn't automatically dovetailed them.

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Speaker 2: Is the fact you're miserable because a lot of people aren't. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Where was I forty seven percent of eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 2: fours working your second job for financial reason. That's the

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Speaker 2: biggest percentage for a group. But they also say twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of people out of fifty five are working extra jobs.

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Speaker 2: And if you aren't working your second job, are you

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Speaker 2: putting an overtime? Forty three percent of us, so we're

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Speaker 2: working over time to cover living costs. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: then again, if you're a nurse, do you work over

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Speaker 2: time because you're desperate? Or do you work over time

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Speaker 2: because that's the sort of job it is, and you

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Speaker 2: know the hours are always there and you never get

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Speaker 2: the job done, and so on and so forth. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how much use that was. If I was

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Speaker 2: making a govern and a government announcement on this, I'd ban

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Speaker 2: these sort of reports and say that that was a

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Speaker 2: four out of ten in terms of usefulness and in sight.

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Speaker 2: We're going to meet the new head of FARMAC. The

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Speaker 2: big turnarounds on She's with us shortly.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show you can't best It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your

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Speaker 1: real estate needs news togstead be.

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Speaker 2: Only seven past seven to the next stage of the

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Speaker 2: governments social housing approach involves providers being able to borrow

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Speaker 2: at discounted rates, with the Crown guaranteeing eighty percent of

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Speaker 2: that money. This involves nine hundred million in total new

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Speaker 2: lending up eighty million or up to eighty million per provider.

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Speaker 2: Chris Bishop is Housing Minister, is back with us morning

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Speaker 2: to you, Good morning. What sort of discount is it

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Speaker 2: interest rate wise for these people.

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Speaker 18: Can be to one hundred and one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 18: basis points. Well, what which one to do here is

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Speaker 18: when we do social housing through Kying or Aura, right,

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Speaker 18: they just borrow through us. So they just borrow it

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Speaker 18: the low rates that the Crown gets rough that gives

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Speaker 18: ky or or a competitive advantage because their cost of

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Speaker 18: borrowing is a lot lower than and community housing providers

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Speaker 18: like the Salvation Army.

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Speaker 19: Right.

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Speaker 18: What I'm trying to do is create a housing system

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Speaker 18: where it doesn't matter who owns. The house could be

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Speaker 18: ko by either government, could be the sallies, could be

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Speaker 18: an EWE, could be a whole range of different providers.

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Speaker 18: Doesn't actually matter who owns it. The key point is

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Speaker 18: we get new, warm, dry social houses for vulnerable people.

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Speaker 18: So we've got this loan guarantee working with the banks

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Speaker 18: on that. We're standing behind a thing called the Community

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Speaker 18: Housing Funding Agency, which is a separate thing which is

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Speaker 18: basically a loan aggregator, and we're standing behind that as well,

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Speaker 18: and that is lowering the cost of borrowing for the

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Speaker 18: community housing sector. The effect of lowering the cost of

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Speaker 18: borrowing is actually really good for the Crown because ultimately

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Speaker 18: we're the funder of all of this stuff in the

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Speaker 18: first place. So we're getting basically cheaper social housing, cheaper

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Speaker 18: borrowing and cheaper social housing, which means we can do

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Speaker 18: more social housing with the same amount of money.

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Speaker 2: Where's the risk you carry all of it? Or the banks?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the banks don't carry any risks, do they,

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Speaker 2: because you'd tick them off before they came to you,

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Speaker 2: and therefore they know they're getting the money from you,

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Speaker 2: so you carry the care I take it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: I mean the point that the community has in set

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Speaker 18: has been making to us for a long time. They've

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Speaker 18: been complaining about this is that they're basically borrowing on

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Speaker 18: commercial terms, when in reality they are far sounder propositions

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Speaker 18: than any other sort of commercial lender, and so it's

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Speaker 18: taken some time to get the banks around to persuading

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Speaker 18: them of that point of view. That's why we're doing

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Speaker 18: the low guarantee scheme as a short term set of

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Speaker 18: intervention or we sort out the actual funding system. But yeah,

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Speaker 18: I mean, basically, you're right, we are taking a little

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Speaker 18: bit of risk, but it's a minimum amount.

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Speaker 2: Does it seem to buy people to borrow more, build

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Speaker 2: more or we don't know.

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Speaker 18: It will lower the cost of borrowing for the building

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Speaker 18: that they're already doing because we've contracted to you.

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Speaker 2: That's my point. Will they borrow less to do what

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Speaker 2: they were doing, or will they borrow more to do more?

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Speaker 2: If we fund them to do more, then they will.

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Speaker 18: And to give you an example in the budget twenty

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Speaker 18: twenty four, places that we funded that fifteen hundred or so.

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Speaker 3: With the lower cost of borrowing.

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Speaker 18: The net effect of that is that we can actually

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Speaker 18: turn what was we thought was going to be about

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Speaker 18: fifteen hundred into about seventeen hundred seventeen fifty. Actually, now

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Speaker 18: there's a bit of complexity to that because it's got

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Speaker 18: to wash through and its new loans and everything's a

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Speaker 18: little bit different. But the short point is by doing

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Speaker 18: this we can actually deliver more social housing for less money.

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Speaker 3: It's great, great news.

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Speaker 2: Good the Dickson Street Department thing you up on that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Explain to me how a state owned agency sells something

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Speaker 2: for a million the people who buy it under a

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Speaker 2: first preference deal then flick it for three How does

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Speaker 2: that work?

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Speaker 18: Well, the land's got a right of refirse refusal on it,

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Speaker 18: which means they got to offer it to the local eweed.

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Speaker 18: They did that and they negotiated them up. They went

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Speaker 18: out to the market before that and sort of tested

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Speaker 18: it a bit. Yep, it's on the box that I

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Speaker 18: think it's about three to four. But there was a

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Speaker 18: lot of interest in the market and actually buying it.

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Speaker 18: This is an earthquake prone building, it's a heritage listed.

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Speaker 2: But the market paid three million dollars for it about

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Speaker 2: three minutes up right for one?

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Speaker 11: Is that with that? Well?

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Speaker 18: I get that, but we ultimately don't control what the

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Speaker 18: people who buy properties, do with it once they've bought it.

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Speaker 2: But should I know, it's not your personal fault, but

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Speaker 2: I mean this business or first right of refusal line,

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Speaker 2: and I understood it to be when it came to

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Speaker 2: the Mari that you know there was something culturally historically significant. Sure,

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Speaker 2: but a duney old building that you can make a

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Speaker 2: couple of million dollars on by Wednesday? Is that part

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Speaker 2: of the treaty negotiation settlement process.

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Speaker 20: Is it?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it was negotiated as part of the settlement with

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Speaker 18: Portneck Tarnik Fano back in I think it's two thousand

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Speaker 18: and seven. So they've got access to a whole lot

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Speaker 18: of land in Wellington that you know that they that's.

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Speaker 3: Part of their deal.

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Speaker 18: And where it periodically comes up, they get offered it

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Speaker 18: and sometimes they say yes, sometimes they say no. In

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Speaker 18: this case they said yes, Chao negotiated with it. I

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Speaker 18: get people's frustration, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 18: like you're dealing with basically an old dunger and you've

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Speaker 18: got someone who wants to spend a little bit of

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Speaker 18: money to who you could potentially do it up, and

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Speaker 18: that is ultimately a good outcome for Wellington.

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Speaker 11: But I appreciate the frustration on the way through.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you is always Chris Bishop, who's

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Speaker 2: the housing minister. Twelve and it's past seven pasking speaking

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Speaker 2: of housing markets moving. We're up zero point one for

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Speaker 2: the month, so don't break out the champagne just yet.

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Speaker 2: But it does break five months of decline as usual.

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Speaker 2: It depends on where you are in the country, so

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Speaker 2: it's a crunch a few markets and get a vibe.

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Speaker 2: Kelvin Davidson's Cartelity is to your property economist and is

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Speaker 2: back with there's Calvin Morning, Good Morning. One month does

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Speaker 2: not a summer of profit, make.

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Speaker 19: No, No, that's right now, and you've got to put

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Speaker 19: it in the context of five previous falls. So I

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Speaker 19: mean the market's pretty flat and just reflecting, yes, and

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Speaker 19: straight down. But economies why people still feel a bit cautious.

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Speaker 2: So at zero point one, what do we see spring

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Speaker 2: interest rates? Foreign buyers? Mar I mean, I.

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Speaker 19: Think, yeah, I think, I mean confidence in the economy.

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Speaker 19: I guess can be a little bit circular in which

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Speaker 19: drives the other, you know it can it can probably

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Speaker 19: be a bit both ways. But you know, I think

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Speaker 19: that there's signs, there's signs of some hints and green

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Speaker 19: shoots coming through in the economy. We know infrastrates are down.

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Speaker 19: It'll pass through to borrowers more as we progress through.

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Speaker 19: So yeah, I think twenty twenty six is looking better,

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Speaker 19: but just right now things are pretty slat.

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Speaker 2: Well, how much way do you place on the next

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Speaker 2: couple of meetings before the end of the year from

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Speaker 2: the RB, so let's call it fifty points before the

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Speaker 2: end of the year. Are we all sitting, you know,

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Speaker 2: coiled springs of anticipation waiting for this to happen.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it could be pretty significant. I mean,

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Speaker 19: I've heard the word circuit breakers being bandied about a

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Speaker 19: little bit. I think it just needs a sort of

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Speaker 19: shock treatment for lack of a better word, and I think,

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Speaker 19: you know, get them to get into the next year,

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Speaker 19: get into summer.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 19: I think there's some some cause for optimism coming through,

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Speaker 19: but we also need the economy to turn around. And

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Speaker 19: it can be a bit circular, of course, but people

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Speaker 19: start to see some better economic news, confidence picks up

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Speaker 19: and it flows right through good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Calvin, appreciate your insight. Kelvin Davidson, Ount of Captality Auckland

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Speaker 2: down a bit this for the month of Auckland. Hamilton

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Speaker 2: Flat Tower is up, Wellington's down, christ Uche up quite

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Speaker 2: a lot and need up as well. So the further

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Speaker 2: south you go, the better it gets.

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Speaker 15: Fourteen past the Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: Tell you what this our three sixty things seems more

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Speaker 2: real by the day. Starting next year. It's the Saudi

825
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Speaker 2: backed rugby tournament. They're dragging some NRL players out of

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Speaker 2: Australia too. I've asked Scheck here was linked, but the

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Speaker 2: Australian's got a bit angsty yesterday, not just the NRL

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Speaker 2: but the Australian Rugby looking to move to block Wallaby.

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Speaker 2: So we'll tell you more about that before eight o'clock. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: it's sixteen past. New stats this morning shows what an

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Speaker 2: ugly plays prison can be. We've got one thousand and

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Speaker 2: eighty prisoner on staff assaults in the past year. Is

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Speaker 2: that a lot, Yes, it is. It's more it's almost

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Speaker 2: double what it was in twenty seventeen. Twenty eighteen, that

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Speaker 2: was the last time the prison population was about where

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Speaker 2: it is now. Lee Marsh's the corrections Custodial Services Commissioner

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Speaker 2: and is with us Lee morning.

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Speaker 20: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: So you got prisoner on prisoner and prisoner on staff.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're more worried about prisoner on staff. Is

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Speaker 2: that what's materially changed if you got the same sort

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Speaker 2: of pop population, what's materially changed in terms of the violence.

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Speaker 21: Well, the population has changed incredibly of the last few years.

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Speaker 21: So whilst our overall net population is similar to what

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Speaker 21: it was in kind of twenty eight twenty nineteen, what

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Speaker 21: we're seeing is increasing gang membership and complexity of gang membership.

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Speaker 21: We're seeing a little more violence coming in off the

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Speaker 21: streets into our prisons. We're seeing the effects of meth

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Speaker 21: use within our communities and that sort of coming into

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Speaker 21: our prison.

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Speaker 2: Environment must be a hell of a job.

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Speaker 21: Well, it's I'll tell you what. Our officers are absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 21: They're dealing with the people that our courts say should

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Speaker 21: not be in the community, and they get up of

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Speaker 21: every day, come to work and they deal with those

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Speaker 21: people in our prisons trying to affect change to make

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Speaker 21: sure they get out safe, and they do an absolutely

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Speaker 21: incredible job.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff we've talked about before, Body cameras and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Has any of that helped materially?

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Speaker 20: I think it has.

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Speaker 21: I truly believe it has. If we look at the

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Speaker 21: assault stats, there's a little bit in the numbers there.

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Speaker 21: So while the net numbers has increased, we've done an

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Speaker 21: incredible amount of work alongside our partners to improve not

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Speaker 21: only the safety equipment, but the reporting. We want to

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Speaker 21: send a clear message that any violence against our staff

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Speaker 21: is not tolerated, and so this encouragement of reporting has

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Speaker 21: seen a significant increase in the reporting of non injury assaults,

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Speaker 21: and that's where the biggest number lies. So our serious

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Speaker 21: assaults have actually gone down. We're actually seeing a reduction

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Speaker 21: in the use of things like weapons. We are seeing

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Speaker 21: an increase in prison on prisoner kind of pack assaults,

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Speaker 21: and that's gang related really, But the majority of this increase,

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Speaker 21: in fact, the bulk of this increase that's caused the

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Speaker 21: net number to go up, is actually non injury assaults.

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Speaker 21: And they're basically a bit of a push or a shover,

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Speaker 21: a cup of water being thrown or an apple being

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Speaker 21: thrown at, you know that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, And does it affect recruiting.

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Speaker 21: Our recruiting has gone incredibly well. We've still got cues

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Speaker 21: of people wanting to come and join us. We offer

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Speaker 21: a fantastic career, a very rewarding career. Our turnover is

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Speaker 21: over halved in the last couple of years, and I

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Speaker 21: think we've had well in excess of one hundred and

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Speaker 21: thirty thousand applications since our latest campaign last in twenty

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Speaker 21: twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Good good stuff, Lee NICs and Lee Marsh see not

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Speaker 2: all bad news Corrections Custodial Services Commissioner with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Justin by the way, doctor Jane Goodall, one of the

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Speaker 2: world's greats, has passed away natural courses. She's in California

892
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Speaker 2: working till the end, which I think is probably the

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Speaker 2: best way to be in California. On speaking to It

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Speaker 2: ninety one, What a fantastic life. She was last on

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Speaker 2: the program in twenty seventeen. At the moment, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the world seems a fraction and fragile place, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: And when that happens, people's attention goes elsewhere.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, it does. And you know, I think the big

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Speaker 22: problem is that as the problems get worse, and you know,

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Speaker 22: the attacks on the environment was so ordinary, people just

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Speaker 22: feel there's nothing they can do, and so they lose

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Speaker 22: hope and do nothing and that's the disaster.

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Speaker 2: From twenty seventeen, her work they say revolutionized science. A

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Speaker 2: great life, Doctor Jane Goodall in ninety one seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six years and not only pride themselves

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Speaker 2: conserving the KWI dream, Helping Key we save for their

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Speaker 2: through the new head of a couple of weeks to

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Speaker 2: get a feet under the table, see what's what, and

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Speaker 2: she's with us after seven thirty CE. We were heading

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Speaker 2: with that particular department. It's a troubled department, of course,

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Speaker 2: and has been reformed. We had the chair on ironically

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Speaker 2: yesterday about this new procurement thing, so we'll get back

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Speaker 2: to that. So she's about fifty minutes away anyway. Treasury right,

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Speaker 2: Treasury have done one of their long term reports. They

935
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Speaker 2: look out forty years and the thrust of what they

936
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Speaker 2: say is important. But the big question is what, if anything,

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Speaker 2: is to be done about it. So in civil terms,

938
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Speaker 2: we spend too much as a country, we owe too much,

939
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Speaker 2: and no one is really doing much about any of that.

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Speaker 2: Even this government, a conservative government, is running a deficit.

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Speaker 2: They spend more than they make. Not just that, but

942
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Speaker 2: each year they said that they would change that they haven't.

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Speaker 2: We're out to twenty eight twenty nine currently before we

944
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Speaker 2: get back to an annual surplus, and even then it's

945
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Speaker 2: touch and go. Oh they've got excuses. Of course, they've

946
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Speaker 2: got excuses. We always have excuses, As Treasury says, in

947
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Speaker 2: the past twenty years, we have had favorable tail winds economically,

948
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Speaker 2: and yet the debt is still higher than forecast. One

949
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Speaker 2: economist said this report should be on the reading list

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Speaker 2: of every one of us. It won't be. He also

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Speaker 2: says he doesn't think politicians are going to be able

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Speaker 2: to make these changes needed until the voting public is

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Speaker 2: behind those choices. So two problems they are. One we

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Speaker 2: aren't reading the report, and two I suspect even if

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Speaker 2: we did read it, many wouldn't really be into the

956
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Speaker 2: sort of fiscal discipline required to sort ourselves out. We

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Speaker 2: pay closing in on ten billion dollars a year on

958
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Speaker 2: interest on our debt, just on the interest, twenty eight

959
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Speaker 2: million dollars a day. Every day debt goes nowhere, just

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Speaker 2: the interest in Yet every time a government goes to

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Speaker 2: save you can hear the screams, can't you count those

962
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Speaker 2: complaining here the endless excuses as to why it shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be them. If we don't change this, the report says

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Speaker 2: we will have debt rising to two hundred percent of

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Speaker 2: GDP by twenty sixty five. It's currently forty five, so

966
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Speaker 2: we're going from forty five to two hundred percent. Two

967
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Speaker 2: hundred percent would literally ruin us. So it's one of

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Speaker 2: life's great quandaries, isn't it. We've got a problem, a

969
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Speaker 2: growing problem. We know about the problem, We actually know

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Speaker 2: what the solutions of the problem is. Do we ignore

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Speaker 2: it or tackle it? If we do, how are we

972
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Speaker 2: even capable of trying, who's going to lead that charge?

973
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Speaker 2: Or do we simply wait for next year's report to

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Speaker 2: confirm that between now and then nothing will change? PASKI

975
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Speaker 2: were struggling to understand how Bishop can dismiss the EWE

976
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Speaker 2: profiteering once again at taxpayers expense. Clearly Ko either didn't

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Speaker 2: explore the market and couldn't be bothered to get the

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Speaker 2: best result for taxpayers, or simply negligent. Well, all of

979
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Speaker 2: those things could be true. What I was trying to

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Speaker 2: point out I did this at the very start of

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Speaker 2: the program, And Chris knows it's true, is that whoever

982
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Speaker 2: negotiated these settlements with various ee around the country, the

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Speaker 2: first writer refusal clearly doesn't have some cultural slash historic

984
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Speaker 2: connection clause to it. In other words, what I would

985
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Speaker 2: have done in drawing up the contract is no problem.

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Speaker 2: If a piece of land or something significant to your

987
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Speaker 2: EWE comes up, you should, as part of this deal

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Speaker 2: get first right and refusal on the understanding that you

989
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Speaker 2: pay market rates and you hold it in perpetuity. Because

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Speaker 2: your argument is it's deeply personal, and deeply cultural and

991
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Speaker 2: deeply historic. Right, So we're putting a past wrong right,

992
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Speaker 2: which is what the whole treaty process was supposed to

993
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Speaker 2: be about. It's not about real estate speculation, which is

994
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Speaker 2: clearly where this has gone. I still struggled because the

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Speaker 2: development company of which Ian Castle's was one of the people,

996
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Speaker 2: very experienced developer. How is it he finds three million

997
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Speaker 2: dollars worth of value in it a couple of days

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Speaker 2: after somebody goes on, now we're looking for it as

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Speaker 2: one million. It doesn't add up. Yeah, new job. Another

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Speaker 2: another offshore person, Natalie comes to us from Canada to

1001
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Speaker 2: run far MEC. Things seem to be going well slowly

1002
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Speaker 2: being turned around, so we'll talk about that. Nadia O

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Speaker 2: Limp would hatch up in the studio after eight still

1004
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Speaker 2: to come this morning on the mic Hosking Breakfast where

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Speaker 2: the news is next.

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Speaker 3: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News,

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Speaker 1: togs hed been Nadia.

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Speaker 2: Limb back and quicksh up after eight o'clock this morning.

1010
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Speaker 2: End of Brady is doing the business on the other

1011
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Speaker 2: side of the world in Britain right to farm Ock,

1012
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: our drug funding agent which is and has been undergoing

1013
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Speaker 2: some sort of reasonably large reform just yesterday talking to

1014
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Speaker 2: the chair of course about the new procurement rules. The

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Speaker 2: chair is new, there is some more funding has announced

1016
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Speaker 2: by the government of the previous budget and the CEO

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Speaker 2: is new as well. Natalie McMurtry, Farmac's CEO is with us.

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Speaker 2: Natalie morning, good morning, welcome to the country. Enjoying it

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 23: I love it, thanks, thanks so much. Everyone's been so lovely.

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Speaker 2: How did it work for you? Without getting too personal

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Speaker 2: about it all, I mean, what did you know of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and Farmac and what brought you here?

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Speaker 23: Well, Farmac. I've been working in the pharmacy and drug

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Speaker 23: sector for my whole career over twenty five years. Farmac

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Speaker 23: has always been a model that we looked to and

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Speaker 23: known about, so it's always been in the circle of

1028
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Speaker 23: my professional life. I guess for me, I had the

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Speaker 23: opportunity come forward for me to consider, and it was

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Speaker 23: a good fit lifestyle and lovely country and an amazing

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Speaker 23: model to work in.

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Speaker 2: The model as you saw what we would will see,

1033
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Speaker 2: it has challenged in recent years. Did you see it

1034
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Speaker 2: as challenged and in need of some reform or was

1035
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Speaker 2: that reform in place to the extent that you were

1036
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Speaker 2: happy with and could dub titlan and get on with it.

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Speaker 23: I think that you know, there was an opportunity to

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Speaker 23: be able to make an impact, which I'm really thrilled

1039
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Speaker 23: with with the right leadership, the board that has a

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Speaker 23: great plan in place and something that I could get

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Speaker 23: behind and happy to keep moving forward. The momentum on

1042
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Speaker 23: the on the reset plan that's been in place.

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Speaker 2: Where do you see it at currently versus where it

1044
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Speaker 2: could be would be in a couple of years time.

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Speaker 23: Well, I think you know, it's hard to really comment

1046
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Speaker 23: on the past, but moving forward. I think we have

1047
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Speaker 23: the right things in place. We've started to engage patients

1048
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Speaker 23: and families more. We have a Consumer Advisory Group Working

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Speaker 23: group chaired by Malcolmholland that's working really closely hand in

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Speaker 23: glove with our RESET team, and I think I think

1051
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Speaker 23: that will be able to set a framework that will

1052
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Speaker 23: be able to move forward in a positive way.

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Speaker 2: Is it same in places like Canada? In other words,

1054
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Speaker 2: the government gives you money. There's never enough money. The

1055
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Speaker 2: world is full of drugs and inventions and science and excitement,

1056
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Speaker 2: and there's always a demand que of people saying how

1057
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Speaker 2: about this?

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Speaker 23: Well, yeah, I think that's a challenge of anyone who's

1059
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Speaker 23: been in executive leadership and healthcare in any public system,

1060
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Speaker 23: and there's always the trade offs that you have to manage,

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Speaker 23: and we try to do the best job that we

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Speaker 23: can with the money available.

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Speaker 2: Where are you at in my current fascinations, I means

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Speaker 2: everyone GLP wones. So your Minister David Seymour has an

1065
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Speaker 2: argument that if you spend dollars now, you can save

1066
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Speaker 2: dollars in the future somewhere else. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: GLP ones would be a very good example. If you

1068
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Speaker 2: can cure obesity, think about what you could save in

1069
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Speaker 2: the health system going down the track. Do you subscribe

1070
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Speaker 2: and buy into that and is it real?

1071
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Speaker 23: Well, I think there's definitely opportunities where drugs and new

1072
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 23: technologies can improve lives and livelihoods into the future. And

1073
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Speaker 23: telling that story and getting the right data to make

1074
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Speaker 23: that case around is it capacity, is it better livelihoods,

1075
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Speaker 23: people have better productivity? Some of that math is a

1076
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Speaker 23: bit tricky, but we're working on the best way to

1077
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Speaker 23: tell that story, okay. And I certainly think there's a

1078
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Speaker 23: real story there.

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Speaker 2: The procurement thing that we had the chair on about yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You do some of it in Health New Zealand. Does it?

1081
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Speaker 2: Does all of that make sense? And we better off

1082
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Speaker 2: for that?

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Speaker 22: Oh?

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Speaker 23: I think that this has been a great moving forward

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00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 23: step for the organization after many years of confusion and

1086
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 23: making the best of both Health New Zealand and FARMAC

1087
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 23: working together to be able to get those the right

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00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 23: innovations available to New Zealand. So I'm really happy about that.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you and welcome to the country

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Speaker 2: and enjoy the job. And I'm sure we'll talk again.

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Speaker 2: Betleie McMurtrie, who's the new CEO of Farmic nineteen away

1092
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: from seven asking let me spending a bit of time

1093
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: next week there the whole country is going to be

1094
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: moderately exercised on what are the Reservement going to do?

1095
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, it is the second last meeting of the year.

1096
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: Christian Hawksby still in charge, although he knows now he

1097
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: doesn't get the job and he's leaving the bank. I

1098
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: don't know whether that sort of effects his mood and

1099
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: the Monetary Committee's mood, but nevertheless they're going to come

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Speaker 2: with certainly twenty five. The debate is now on as

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00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: to whether it's fifty. So who says what? Nick Tuffley,

1102
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: who's at the ASB, he raises quite rightly the fact

1103
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: that the New Zealand dollars fall into a multi year low,

1104
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: and that has got to be of concern to the

1105
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 2: Monetary Policy Committee. I would have thought recovery is taking longer.

1106
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: The economy feels, says Nick, like it needs a bit

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Speaker 2: of a circuit breaker. No kidding. You could have argued

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00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: that back in June and July when the Reserve Bank

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00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: we're doing nothing. So have they suddenly panicked? Have they

1110
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: suddenly gone? Jeez? Were taking heat here? Can we go fifty?

1111
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: The RB needs to hit the gas harder, he says,

1112
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: and I think on that he's right. B and Zi

1113
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: dug Steel he says, the right cuts are done. Deal,

1114
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Speaker 2: we're sticking with our central view of two more twenty fives.

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Speaker 2: There's a very real risk that abut that'll shire Reserve

1116
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: banks suffers stick a shock from Q two GDP. Good point.

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00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: Not willing to wait for the Q three GDP outturn

1118
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: to be published. So cuts the rate fifty? Now? Is

1119
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: that a risk? Or do you go go for it?

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00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: Key piece of data they're going to be waiting for

1121
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: is the NZED Economic Research, the Institute of quarterly Survey

1122
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: of Business Opinion, that comes out the day before, so

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00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: this coming Tuesday. In other words, what's that say. I

1124
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: can tell you what it's going to say, and if

1125
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: it says what we think it's going to say, which

1126
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: is it's miserable, they need to do something about A

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00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: and Z. Sharon Zolas she says, both options have pros

1128
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: and cons, which is true. That's the economy overall. We

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00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: see the value of optionality at twenty five. So from

1130
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Speaker 2: those three economists you got two twenty five In fifty.

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Speaker 2: We wait and see seventeen to two the.

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Speaker 1: Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

1133
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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be this's our three to sixty thing. We'll talk

1135
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: to Jim Dollan in Australia because they seem if we

1136
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: missed the boat on this in this country. I mean

1137
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: as the New Zealand Rugby Union like sitting there yesterday

1138
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: the Australian Rugby Union said we're going to look at

1139
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: blocking Wallaby's. So if you want to play our through sixty,

1140
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: go for gold. Once we've sued you in taking to court,

1141
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: by the way, after that you can go play, but

1142
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: you're never going to be a Wallaby again. Now have

1143
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: we heard that from the New Zealand Rugby Union? Do

1144
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: they even is this a thing? Could it be a thing?

1145
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 2: Do we take it seriously? This thing's launching next to

1146
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: you normal circumstances. You go, hmm, could be a thing.

1147
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: But the Saudis make stuff happen. By the way, the

1148
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: Herne brothers, not the horn brothers, father and son, Barry

1149
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: and see the other guy's named Barry Hearne and whatever

1150
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: his name is, Eddie. There's a Netflix thing on them,

1151
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: it's I won't recommend it because it's got that classic

1152
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: stage thing going on, where like Eddie sits in the

1153
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: office with Barry and Barry goes, so, Eddie, what's going

1154
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: on then? And Eddie goes, well, not a lot, Dad

1155
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: at the moment, got to boxing, got aj comming in

1156
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: for a meeting. Oh, that will be good. Then let

1157
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: me know when he gets There's a lot of that anyway,

1158
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: The point being, as far as promotion is concerned in

1159
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: sport and ffessionals, they're very heavily tied up with the

1160
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: Saudis in the snooker and the boxing, and so when

1161
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Speaker 2: the Saudis want to make something happen, they're going to

1162
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Speaker 2: make it happen. So ask three sixties real. So we'll

1163
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: talk more about that than just a couple of moments.

1164
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: By the way, if this means anything to you, the

1165
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: stats Department provided us with a reminder of how rich

1166
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: we're not if you want to be in the top

1167
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: fifty percent, which I would have thought is just such

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00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: a depressing if you're in the top fifty percent. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, is just half of you half you are,

1170
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: half you aren't. I mean, I'll get to the top

1171
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: one percent, that's quite exciting. But the top fifty percent,

1172
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 2: guess what I am. I'm in the top fifty percent?

1173
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: Are you how exciting you need to be worth? And this,

1174
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: once again is this, Sell everything you've got, get rid

1175
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Speaker 2: of all your debt. How much you got left. To

1176
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Speaker 2: be in the top fifty percent, you need one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty eight hundred and fifty dollars. If you don't

1178
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: have that, you're in the bottom fifty percent. That'll be

1179
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: a thoroughly depressing day. Top ten percent you need one

1180
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Speaker 2: point two two six million. Top five percent you need

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Speaker 2: one point eight eighty three. Now that's interesting. I would

1182
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Speaker 2: have thought that's not a big gap between the top

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: ten and the top five. One point two to one

1184
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Speaker 2: point eight. Top one's a whole different kettle fish.

1185
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Speaker 11: Though.

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Speaker 2: To be in the top one percent, you need four

1187
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: point seven three five million dollars the median of the

1188
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: top one percent. This is where you get to the heavyweights.

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Speaker 2: The median of the top one percent to seven point

1190
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Speaker 2: one three years ago. Tho, that was eleven point two.

1191
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: So to say the richer getting richer is simply not true.

1192
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: They're not, but at least they're not in the bottom

1193
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: fifty percent. Anyway, Let's get to the rugby in the

1194
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: moment I leave it away from it.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Costing breakfast with a Vita retirement, Communities News,

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Speaker 1: togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: Away from the new Saudi backdar through sixty looks real,

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Speaker 2: as I've just been saying. NRL allegedly facing losing at

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Speaker 2: least ten key players, Rugby Australia looking to block any

1200
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Speaker 2: Wallabies of their jump. Jim Dollars and Australian sports journalists

1201
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Speaker 2: back with us. Jim Morning Today, Mike, how much fizz

1202
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: has there been around this in the last few months?

1203
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: Are people taking this seriously? Or are we just start

1204
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: of waking up to this now?

1205
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: It pubbles to the surface a lot and then sort

1206
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: of goes back yesterday. It's certainly with the starting date

1207
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 4: apparently locked in for next year, it certainly did come

1208
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: back to the surface with the talk of ten blazers

1209
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: from the NRL, and somebody went on the record, Clinton Schifofski,

1210
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: who's a player manager. He's a former player, played for

1211
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: a number of clubs, Canberra and Paramatta and also played

1212
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 4: State of origin for Queensland. He has confirmed that he

1213
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: has spoken to people from three point sixty, which no

1214
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: one else has said so far, and he also manages

1215
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: the three players who the most mentioned, Zach Lomas, also

1216
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: Melbourne's Ryan Pappenhausen and Jay Gray from South Sydney. Now

1217
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 4: Zach Lomax. There's been all sorts of rumor saying that

1218
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 4: he played his last game for paramatter as he was

1219
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 4: very keen despite being contracted until the end of twenty

1220
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: twenty eight. Well, Zach pot paid to that last night

1221
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 4: at the Dallyms when he said, no, my focus is

1222
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: on Paramatta next year. It's not right that I'm going right.

1223
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: So what we know allegedly is this thing begins October two,

1224
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, so we're less technically a year ago.

1225
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: They actually haven't got a player, have they. There's just

1226
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: a lot of heat we're talking to. There's no one

1227
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: signed and said I'm.

1228
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: Off no, and no coaches that don't have any venues yet.

1229
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 4: There's been some thrown up and there's plenty of talk

1230
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 4: to's money coming from all around the world, but no

1231
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 4: one's actually put their hand up and said yes, I'm

1232
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 4: investing in this.

1233
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: Right. So when I read about the Australian rugby people going, well,

1234
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: you can't be a Wallaby if you're going to do this.

1235
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: So this is kind of the shadow boxing. Will say

1236
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: this and you do that and we'll see where it

1237
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 2: shakes down.

1238
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Australian rugby is in a very strong position

1239
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: because of the home World Cup in twenty twenty seven.

1240
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: Strange timing trying to do it a year out from

1241
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 4: a Rugby oler Cap. If this was happening a year

1242
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: after the Rugby World Cap, I think a lot more

1243
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 4: around Alumbells would be ringing.

1244
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, does it appeal to you, Jim? I'm looking at

1245
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: these so based in London, Miami, Tokyo, to Baya, Boston,

1246
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: Cape Town, Lisbon, Madrid. Who cares? Like, I mean, why

1247
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: am I watching that?

1248
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 24: What for?

1249
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: And it's just like the rugby World seven's that we

1250
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: already have. So there's some talk of the Saudi involvement,

1251
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: maybe pitch for Saudi or Katsa to host the future

1252
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: Rugby World Cap. And this could be very big bargaining

1253
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 4: chip because they've saw what happened with golf and yeah,

1254
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: it's the players can live wherever they want as long

1255
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 4: as they play and what will eventually firstly be six

1256
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 4: to eight week tournament and then after that it will

1257
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: run for a couple of months. But like the seventh

1258
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: Circus so, and there's no talk of anywhere in South Africa,

1259
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 4: Australia or New Zealand, which would pretty much be rugby

1260
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: heartlands you would need to win over.

1261
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, and we've already got too much rugby, haven't.

1262
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 20: Well okay, well not enough for these people. But yeah,

1263
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 20: it's it's going to be very costly exercise. And I

1264
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 20: don't see where the positives are yet.

1265
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: What okay, so reputation on the line this morning, Jim,

1266
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: I ring you August September next year? Is this real?

1267
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: Is it going to start? And in the ensuing period

1268
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six have they signed some gobs making

1269
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: names and we're all going, oh my god, look at this.

1270
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 20: No, I wouldn't think so.

1271
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 4: They wouldn't need to get so many players out of

1272
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: their contracts because in Australia rugby league and rugby contracts

1273
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: run from November one to October thirty one, so they

1274
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 4: would or even the players are off contract next year

1275
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: in the NRL and rugby would still be under contract

1276
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: when its ornament starts the year from today.

1277
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, might go, well, appreciate you getting up

1278
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: early in the morning, Jim Dolan out of Australia, so

1279
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: just if you're interested. So this time next year it

1280
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: starts six male teams, four female teams. Twenty twenty seven,

1281
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Real Rugby Cup year twelve event competition

1282
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: runs from April to September, include semis and a final.

1283
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: Men's competition will expand to eight teams. By twenty twenty eight.

1284
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: Competition will include sixteen events from April to September. The

1285
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: franchise locations, as I mentioned, their sort of glamour Northern

1286
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: Hemisphere type spots. I guess. Teams will be registered to

1287
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: the United Arab Emirates Rugby Federation. Players will be granted

1288
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: full release to play international rugby. But that's the problem,

1289
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: of course, you can't be a wallowby. You can be

1290
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: released to do what The players will own their IP,

1291
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: not be owned by their team or are three sixty.

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Speaker 2: A player draft July of next year will take place.

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Speaker 2: All players will be able to choose their country of residents,

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Speaker 2: won't be asked to reside in their franchise location. So

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Speaker 2: I suppose we'll see where that goes. The names business

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Speaker 2: class tickets, Yes, yes, yes, accommodation for two in Melbourne,

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Speaker 2: fabulous two premium hospitality Melbourne Race weekend passes. Yes, this

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Speaker 2: is March next year, Friday, Saturday, Sunday six seven or

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Speaker 2: eight track experience for two round the beautiful Albert Park.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand dollars in spending money. Today's winner will have

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Speaker 2: five hundred dollars in cash and you'll go in the

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Speaker 2: draw the drawers next Friday tomorrow week. And I mean,

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: what else can I tell you other than to give

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Speaker 2: you today's three names, which I'm not going to do now. Well,

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Speaker 2: I will do sometime between now at nine o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: But we welcome into the studio again. After the news,

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Speaker 2: naddi elimb. That's after the news, which is next.

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Speaker 3: Asking the questions? Others won't the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 1: With the land Rover defender, embrace the impossible news, togs

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Speaker 1: dead be.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past eights at time, once again to

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Speaker 2: celebrate the genius of farming in the sector that is

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Speaker 2: right now holding this economy of ours up. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Nadia Limb has done books, but her latest has been

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Speaker 2: a number of years in gestation. It is a tribute

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Speaker 2: to the farmers and land and sustainable food in general,

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Speaker 2: and Nadia Limbas backwards. Lovely to see you. I do know,

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Speaker 2: do you know you are the first? I think I'm

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Speaker 2: correct in saying this. You are the first guest we've

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Speaker 2: had on this program that has asked for one of

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Speaker 2: our coffees. Oh really, I believe so.

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Speaker 25: I know that's funny because you know I don't normally

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Speaker 25: drink coffee. I gave it up in solidarity for my

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Speaker 25: husband Carlos because he was having too many. And this

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Speaker 25: is probably the first one I've had in months.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can own I'm going to be disappointed. I

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Speaker 2: am trepidacious at what it tastes like as it takes.

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Speaker 26: That's pretty average. But it's fine. Thank you Sam, Thank

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Speaker 26: you very much. Sam. It's the it's the thought that goes.

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Speaker 2: Do you know when he wrought it in, because I'm

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Speaker 2: a coffee snob. When he brought it in, I smelt

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Speaker 2: it and I thought, oh, Nadia, what are you doing?

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Speaker 26: You are a coffee snop.

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Speaker 2: So well, the thing is, I'm just here to say

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Speaker 2: you don't have to drink any more of it because

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Speaker 2: it's quite a big cup.

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Speaker 26: So if you want to do I have a few steps.

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Speaker 25: I wasn't feeling that sharp this morning, not as sharp

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Speaker 25: as I normally do.

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Speaker 26: Maybe this No, No, definitely not. I've been working too hard.

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Speaker 2: No good on you. No, just a little bit of

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Speaker 2: the old down memory lane. If we can what you

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Speaker 2: thought talking about your property and your journey in the country,

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Speaker 2: what you thought it was going to be and what

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 25: Probably yeah, if I'm honest, probably pretty different. I would

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Speaker 25: describe the whole journey if I could sum it up

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Speaker 25: as starting from quite an idealistic place, you know, oh,

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Speaker 25: we're going to be on this farm, and we're going

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Speaker 25: to diversify, and we're going to have a full farm

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01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 25: to plate model, to being chipped away, chipped away at

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Speaker 25: slowly over the years, to definitely becoming a lot more

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01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 25: realistic and going, shit, this whole farming thing is not

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Speaker 25: as bloody easy or as predictable as what we were hoping. Yeah,

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01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 25: it's a it's really a game of you win some,

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Speaker 25: you lose some. Yeah, I'd say it's about fifty to

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Speaker 25: fifty to be honest. I mean, what's great at the

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Speaker 25: moment with sheep farming For the sheep farmers, they're they're

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Speaker 25: the lamb price is the best it's been in decades,

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Speaker 25: Like in ages like, that's fantastic for the sheep farmers.

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Speaker 26: We are sheep farmers.

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Speaker 25: However, we just get store lambs in now because we

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Speaker 25: have our own brand of lamb and to to meet

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Speaker 25: the demand of the market, we needed to upscale. So

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Speaker 25: instead of having all the use on the farm and

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Speaker 25: lambing on the farm, we moved to a store lamb model.

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Speaker 25: So we raise them after weaning and then they go

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Speaker 25: through our own micro abatoire on the farm and butchery,

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Speaker 25: which is very unique, Like we don't there's only a

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Speaker 25: couple of farms in the country that are a micro abatuar.

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Speaker 2: Which is one of the main Christion. Before I forget,

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Speaker 2: I'll ask that, how much have you spent on your

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Speaker 2: farm that you could argue you didn't need to in

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Speaker 2: terms of what you were specifically looking to do.

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Speaker 25: Goshure you're onto it, Mike, These types of Christions probably

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Speaker 25: quite a lot. Yeah, Like, if we could go back

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Speaker 25: in time, there's definitely things we would have done pretty differently,

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Speaker 25: and some things that we wouldn't have even gone into.

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Speaker 25: I mean, we ended up closing our organic market garden

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Speaker 25: down last year because it just was losing money every month.

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Speaker 25: You know, we just couldn't make it work. Our chickens,

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Speaker 25: for example, the eggs do really really well, but there

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Speaker 25: there's always kind of problems cropping up with them. Yeah,

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Speaker 25: it would have been easier probably to just crop the

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Speaker 25: whole farm and keep things maybe a bit more simple.

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Speaker 25: But at the same time we have had some amazing wins,

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Speaker 25: like going back to the Abata, so that's game changing

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Speaker 25: what we've done there. We're pioneers and that and that's

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Speaker 25: going well. But of course because we're buying in store lambs,

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Speaker 25: we're not making the money off the actual sheep farming.

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Speaker 25: But so not such a good market for us at

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Speaker 25: the moment. However, the product that we create is incredible,

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Speaker 25: like actual it really is amazing.

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Speaker 2: How much of and without getting too personal about it,

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: how much of what you've done is about the u

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Speaker 2: side of it, the nadilimb side of it, making books

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Speaker 2: and doing the television shows and stuff. And therefore, if

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Speaker 2: you'd only been a crop farmer, the television show would

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Speaker 2: have been boring because on once you'd shown the corn,

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Speaker 2: that was it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: No, I think that's a very valid point, and that's

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Speaker 25: Carlos and I often talk about that. We're like, well,

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Speaker 25: if we hadn't done all this, then all of these

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Speaker 25: opportunities wouldn't have come about, and vice versa. So they're

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Speaker 25: kind of very intertwined. Yeah, yeah, you can't really untangle

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Speaker 25: the two of them.

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Speaker 2: Do you recommend scale because yours is a massive place?

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Speaker 2: Does it work at scale?

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Speaker 25: Well, I think there is such a thing as overshooting

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Speaker 25: the sweet point. I think you're gonna like, if you

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 25: look at a bowl shaped curve, right, you know, you've

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Speaker 25: got to get to the top of that curve, and

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Speaker 25: when you get to the top of that curve, then stop,

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Speaker 25: don't don't keep going.

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Speaker 26: And I think in some cases we did.

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Speaker 25: We were like scale, scale, scale, and we overshot the

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Speaker 25: sweet point. But we are kind of pulling back now,

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 25: so we can't. We're getting to a much better place

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Speaker 25: where it is. You know, parts of it are profitable

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01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 25: and then some some of it is barely profitable. But

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Speaker 25: it's part of the whole story. So it's all, like

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Speaker 25: I was saying, it's so intertwined. You can't just pull one.

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 25: Of course, if you pull one thread then it kind

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Speaker 25: of unravels the whole.

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Speaker 2: How many paddocks are passion Well.

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Speaker 26: How many paddocks are passion? Oh?

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Speaker 20: Now?

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Speaker 25: Less less of them now. Carlos is going on the

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Speaker 25: cropping side this year. He's going big on like Ballei

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Speaker 25: for his swifty Bear product, which is working. Yeah, so

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Speaker 25: definitely less of them now.

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Speaker 2: I'd say, really, and where are you at in the journey?

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Speaker 2: Do you think giving it hasn't happened yet as to

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Speaker 2: where you want to be ideally or are you there already?

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Speaker 25: No? No, definitely not there already. But then that's an

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Speaker 25: interesting question because I feel like wherever you are, you'll

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Speaker 25: still kind of want to tweak and adjust things. And yeah,

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01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 25: but yeah, I mean i'd say we're not. We love

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Speaker 25: living down there. It's it might not be the best

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 25: financial return, but I can tell you it is the

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Speaker 25: best lifestyle return will be and you can't beat that.

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01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: That's worth it's weight in gold. Let's come back and

1444
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: talk about some of the food and the recipes at

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01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: the moment. Nadia Olymp thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks Be.

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01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: New Talks Are Be sixteen minutes past eight. Nadia Limba's

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01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: our guest one more down memory lane question. One of

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01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: the things that I probably bored you with the story previously,

1451
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: but one of the things I've always liked and admired

1452
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: about you is that that you came out of Master Chef,

1453
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: and it was back in the days where I think

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: you're still the only one who's genuinely taken that singular

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: opportunity and turned it into something quite profound. Before you know,

1456
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: realosy television became a thing about people wanting to enhance

1457
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: their Instagram following, as opposed to you wanted to do

1458
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: something and that was the thing you were and it

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01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: worked out. Does it still feel like a dream come

1460
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: true in that sense.

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Speaker 25: When I think back to it as a twelve year

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 25: old and what my dream was back then, then yes,

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 25: I go, wow, it's pretty amazing. How lucky am I

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01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 25: that I'm getting to do what I always dreamed of doing?

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01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 26: And more?

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: It's incredible? And when was that? When was mastership? I

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Speaker 2: mean fifteen years?

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Speaker 13: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen?

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Speaker 7: Ye?

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Speaker 26: I'm so young.

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Speaker 25: I was twenty four, twenty four to twenty five from forty.

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Speaker 3: Now are you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: Jeez, not as old as me?

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01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 24: Yeah?

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 26: How old does that make you?

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 11: Oh?

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 26: The way she laughed, way she's laughed.

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 2: The seasons. What's your favorite? In Central attacks See, here's

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01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: my thing about Central Attiger. Winter's too harsh and unless

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: your ski.

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 26: That is true. But have you ever seen a complete

1484
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 26: white out?

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 24: Yeah?

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01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 14: I have?

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Speaker 26: Oh so beautiful is it it is?

1488
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 25: But then when it gets when it melts and it

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 25: goes with slush exactly.

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01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 2: So I've seen that. So sure, obviously spring would be

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: a thing, wouldn't it Spring?

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Speaker 25: I think for me it's the shoulder seasons, yes, Spring

1493
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 25: and autumn. Yeah, they're stunning. Autumn especially, you know, it's

1494
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 25: just like a show stopper, all those colors.

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: Arrowtown, those sort of places. So when it comes to

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Speaker 2: this particular book, which we should spend some time thinking

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Speaker 2: about it, it's one of these coffee table type books too.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, it's a beautiful hardcover I self published, so I

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Speaker 25: kind of get to make the calls on what the

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Speaker 25: book looks like and how much investment goes into the photography.

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Speaker 2: And is that why you're on the cover.

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Speaker 25: Yes, yes, as well, because because on the cover against

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 25: do you have rabbits hanging from the top of the door,

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 25: well on the cover yes, normally no, we wouldn't hang

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01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 25: them from the door. Normally we'd im quickly skin and

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 25: gut them and chuck them in.

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01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: How much did you in your time down there, the

1509
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: dealing with animals, the slicing off of the heads, the

1510
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: removal of the organs.

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 25: I knew quite a bit of it before moving down

1512
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 25: because Carlos has always been begin to hunting. But I've

1513
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 25: definitely learned more ye since since we've moved down.

1514
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 26: Do you like rabbit? Have you tried it before? You haven't.

1515
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: I've tried it. Of course I've tried it. You don't

1516
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: want to have a conversation with me about my my

1517
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: habits of eating. I'm a tragic You are pretty conservative,

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: very very very conservative as far but as far as

1519
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: the seasons go. Do you eat seasonally and cook so seasonally?

1520
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 25: Very very much so, even way more so since we

1521
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 25: moved down there, Like you're actually if you really eat

1522
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 25: kind of off the land, you actually you actually end

1523
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 25: up been quite limited with what you can have. So

1524
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 25: we and when we first moved down, I was so adamantised,

1525
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 25: like I'm going to live one hundred percent off the

1526
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 25: land other than dairy because we don't have a milking

1527
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 25: and I was like, I'm going to do this, and

1528
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 25: it was a bit of a challenge to me. I

1529
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 25: stuck to it for a couple of years. I've relaxed

1530
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 25: quite a bit now because it is really hard. But

1531
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 25: our diet did become quite limited. Like we'd have tomatoes

1532
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 25: every day, three meals a day, for like three months,

1533
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 25: and then we wouldn't have tomatoes for the remaining nine months.

1534
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 25: And then we'd go through a period through winter where

1535
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 25: we didn't have many vegetables and it was just pumpkin

1536
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 25: and kale, And like, you get so sick of it.

1537
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: No kidding, do you pumpkin and kale? Who would have thought?

1538
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 24: So?

1539
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: Do you eat anything processed at all?

1540
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 26: Occasionally? But I prefer real food. I think it just

1541
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 26: tastes so much better.

1542
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 25: The thing is, when you get used to eating a

1543
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 25: real food diet with minimal refined sugar and that kind

1544
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 25: of thing, like your taste buds actually change and you

1545
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 25: don't want it. You try it, you go, oh, I

1546
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 25: don't feel good.

1547
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: So what I have every day is with lunch, just

1548
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: a small ramiican of fruit.

1549
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 26: Nice.

1550
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,440
Speaker 2: So I have some strawberries and some blueberries.

1551
01:10:59,520 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 26: Not in winter.

1552
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 2: I hope all year round. Yes, no, that was my question.

1553
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not against bringing food from anywhere

1554
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: in the world.

1555
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 26: You know they're going to be sprayed, right, of.

1556
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: Course I give to that. But I would rather have

1557
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: a blueberry all year round than eat seasonally. Do you

1558
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: think less of me because of this?

1559
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 11: Yes?

1560
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 25: You know what I'm thinking is your taste buds aren't

1561
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 25: great because those strawberries and those blueberries aren't.

1562
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 26: Tasting that good.

1563
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: They're not the same as coming out of the garden,

1564
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: of course they're not.

1565
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 25: Could we not tempt you to have like a tamarillo?

1566
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: And no?

1567
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: No, See this is this is the limitation of my diet.

1568
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: If everyone I could eat literally anything, then sure, I

1569
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: call Katie No, well she's actually I blame her. She

1570
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: serves it. It's not my fault. But so you're you're

1571
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,520
Speaker 2: against food Miles and you know, well purely.

1572
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 25: Because to me it just doesn't really make sense. I mean,

1573
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 25: a when you're importing the produce is going to be sprayed,

1574
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 25: it has to be fumigated. Then it doesn't taste great.

1575
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 25: So what's the point If it doesn't taste good, it's

1576
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 25: been cold storage. And then I guess see on top

1577
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 25: of that, you got the food miles, all the extra

1578
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 25: fuel and everything, and then we're not also not supporting

1579
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 25: the New Zealand farmers and producers, which I know that.

1580
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 26: You would love it.

1581
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: I do.

1582
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: I support I support them in season and you're right.

1583
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 2: So we grow our we grow berries and stuff at

1584
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: our place, and when you pick them, there is nothing.

1585
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: There is nothing like garden to table. Yeah, is there?

1586
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 26: Yeah?

1587
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: In the will?

1588
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 22: Oh?

1589
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 26: Absolutely?

1590
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 25: I mean you compare a peach when it's at its

1591
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 25: peak ripeness and it's been it's still warm from the

1592
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 25: sun and you pick that off the tree and eat that.

1593
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 25: Compare that to something in cold storage and winter that's been.

1594
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 26: Imported from America.

1595
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree. Chalk and cheese right now, I drag grapefruit

1596
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: from our trees up to the kitchen and cold press them.

1597
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 26: Beautiful.

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01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, couldn't agree more. Listen, what a joy to talk

1599
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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you too.

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Speaker 26: I always love talking to you. You ask good Christians.

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Speaker 2: You are very nice to say. So we're recording that,

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Speaker 2: but we'll put that into a primer Loveliness and the book.

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01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: Good luck with that as well.

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Speaker 26: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you again. Nadia limit Is eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: another name tomorrow. Mike, Isn't Nadia the most entertaining, enthusiastic

1658
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Speaker 2: ambassador for our country issues? Lovely, There's no doubt about that.

1659
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Speaker 2: There are just some New Zealanders, Mike, that we're just

1660
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Speaker 2: lucky to have in Nadia as one of those.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I could listen to you and Nadia talk all day.

1663
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: She is a true national treasury. You love Nadia Eland

1664
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away.

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Speaker 15: From nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace

1666
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Speaker 15: of mind for New Zealand business with your people.

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Speaker 27: We love in the Brady's back moying mate, Haha, good

1668
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 27: on your make good to speak to you again.

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Speaker 2: And you two, how did that for k? I mean,

1670
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: how do you run your party conference when everyone's sitting

1671
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: around talking about this Black Burnham from Manchester.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, everyone was waiting for a challenge. Andy Burnham gave

1673
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 27: a lot of interviews and he spoke a lot of

1674
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 27: sense actually, but I think I think they've come out

1675
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 27: of it a little bit more unified. And Starmer didn't

1676
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 27: want to focus on Burnum or any potential leadership challenge

1677
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 27: down the line. He has focused squarely on Nigel Farage

1678
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 27: and he says the UK is at a fork in

1679
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Speaker 27: the road, and he said choosing Labor the next election

1680
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 27: will mean the country continues as a united kingdom of

1681
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 27: decency and fairness. And he said if they all go

1682
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 27: off on the right hand fork, the far right, some

1683
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 27: would say Nigel Forrage. He described him as a snake

1684
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 27: oil merchant and he said that he doesn't even like

1685
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 27: the UK or believe in Britain.

1686
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Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting though, that in this conversation the Prime

1687
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Speaker 2: Minister is going after somebody who's billy in Parliament, whereas

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,919
Speaker 2: the once large opposition Patty I e. The Tories seemingly

1689
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: and no longer in the conversation.

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Speaker 27: It's fascinating. They don't get a mentioned, they don't get

1691
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 27: any media coverage. Kemmy Badenoch their leader, she just doesn't

1692
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 27: feature anywhere. For as is a master media performer. His

1693
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 27: problem is right now he has enough MPs, including himself.

1694
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 27: If they were to call a five a side soccer

1695
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 27: tournament in Parliament, he would get five players on the pitch.

1696
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,520
Speaker 27: That's how many he has. And that War's problem.

1697
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: Is I was going to say it wasn't Isn't that

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: The most interesting thing about your system, Ipp is if

1699
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 2: he takes his thirty in the polls, does it trendslight

1700
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: to seats on the day given the system, or does

1701
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 2: you fall flat?

1702
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 27: I don't think it will. I don't think it will

1703
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 27: because Reform does not have the political deep routes. And

1704
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 27: I'm talking about a communications team, a strategy team, donors funding,

1705
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 27: vetting of candidates will be key. I think right now

1706
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 27: of Reform, some of the people they were to put up,

1707
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 27: and people went through social media, you would find a

1708
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 27: lot of questionable opinions about foreigners. And I think the

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01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 27: majority of people in this the one thing I will

1710
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 27: say about Farage and the whole Briggs.

1711
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 11: At the date, Mike.

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01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 27: It has emboldened people to come up to you and

1713
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 27: tell you your opinions. I had a guy a few

1714
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 27: months ago, a gentleman in the seventies, come up to

1715
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 27: me quite brazenly and asked me when I was going home,

1716
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 27: And I said, well, I live five down, five miles

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 27: down the road, mates, so in a big house, bigger

1718
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 27: than yours probably that's where I'm going home to. Sorry,

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01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 27: I alwished to boast, but he has embolden these idiots

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Speaker 27: to come and attack foreigners verbally. It's not good.

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Speaker 2: Amazing this baroness Mound what she called a brass bro

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Speaker 2: the Queen of Bras or the Baroness of Bras or

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Speaker 2: whatever she is.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, so she invented. She was a very successful businesswoman,

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Speaker 27: but tonight here her reputation is in the gutter. So

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Speaker 27: she made her own money. I have to and I

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Speaker 27: do know her. I've known her through my time at Sky.

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Speaker 27: She was a panelist on show we had. I socialized

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Speaker 27: with her. She's an interesting character. But look, she made

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Speaker 27: a lot of money to begin with, and then she

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Speaker 27: married a guy who was even richer Doug Barrelman, and

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Speaker 27: they became this very wealthy power couple. Now why they're

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Speaker 27: in the news tonight here a High Court judgment has

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Speaker 27: gone against her. This company, a PPE company that was

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Speaker 27: formed magically overnight during COVID and was pushed into the

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Speaker 27: vip lane of the government for fast tracking. They got

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Speaker 27: somewhere in the region a two hundred and forty four

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Speaker 27: million dollars for PPE kit which she sourced from China.

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01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 27: She denied anything to do with this company, and then

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Speaker 27: it all came out and ultimately she had to hold

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Speaker 27: her hand up and say that they were linked to it.

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Speaker 27: They've been told today in the High Court that two

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Speaker 27: hundred and forty four million dollars that that company got

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Speaker 27: from the UK government when the country was on its

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 27: knees and people were screaming out for Ppe. The equipment

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Speaker 27: that came from China, the gowns and everything in the

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01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 27: surgical stuff, it wasn't of a very good quality. Now

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01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 27: she's going to have to pay back or PPE MedPro,

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01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 27: which has moved to wind up this week, they're going

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Speaker 27: to have to pay back two hundred and forty four

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Speaker 27: million dollars. Michelle Mohan has taken the social media and

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Speaker 27: her Lady Moan of mayfair to give her a title

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Speaker 27: to social media. She's screaming about an establishment win and

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Speaker 27: she says Starmer's first fifteen months in government had been

1755
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Speaker 27: a disgrace. That's her response.

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Speaker 2: When they and I know Rachel Reeves would like to

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Speaker 2: take a peerage off, I don't think technically they can.

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Speaker 2: Can they? But my more important question to you Inda,

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Speaker 2: is it possible to have received a peerage through quote

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Speaker 2: unquote services to lingerie? And when that was rid out

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Speaker 2: publicly when she got that, did they do that with

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Speaker 2: a straight face?

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Speaker 27: Well, well, I'll tell you what. She the main reason

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Speaker 27: she got that, and I know the person involved, David

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Speaker 27: Cameron gave her that peerage, and I know the story.

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Speaker 27: She was very Cameron Cameron needed. This is my reading

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Speaker 27: of us, and I said it to her face as well.

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Speaker 27: I felt the whole Scottish independence argument should have gone

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Speaker 27: the other way, that Scotland should have broken away and

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Speaker 27: Scotland has enough about it to be independent and a

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Speaker 27: Republic of Scotland, and that you know, Scotland had an

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Speaker 27: amazing future. Michelle Mohan campaigned for Scotland to stay in

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Speaker 27: the United Kingdom. Cameron needed. Cameron needed a very wealthy,

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Speaker 27: working class Scottish person to put the frighteners up the

1775
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 27: rich in Scotland basically, and to say to the poor, look,

1776
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 27: all these very wealthy people are worried about losing their

1777
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Speaker 27: money if Scotland goes independent. Michelle Mohan was that voice

1778
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 27: and I think the Ladyship or the peerage was a

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01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 27: payoff basically from Cameron for doing something he couldn't do

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Speaker 27: because people in Scotland were not going to listen. Listen

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Speaker 27: to very plummy English guy from Oxfordshire.

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Speaker 2: I'm very pleased with divid Bickham on a mess of

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Speaker 2: divid vick and Fen. I like his wife as well.

1784
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Speaker 2: But is it seventy three million He's doing all right

1785
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Speaker 2: for him Sovny.

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Speaker 27: Yeah hugely. So this is a dividend from the rights company.

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01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 27: And he has signed deal after deal after deal here

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Speaker 27: this year. So there's a Belgian larger brand he represents.

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 27: There's a brand of air Friers gets to the stage now.

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Speaker 27: I'm watching Champions League soccer here in Europe tonight and

1791
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 27: it gets to the stage when you go through the

1792
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 27: adverts at halftime. It's like what's Beckham flogging next? But

1793
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Speaker 27: good luck to him is at a very very good year.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad eye. And this storm is this the

1795
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 2: real deal? Is this the first of the first of

1796
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: the winters?

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Speaker 27: First of the winters? So we now name our storms

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01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 27: in alphabetical order. So Storm Amy is coming our way

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Speaker 27: Friday night into Saturday. All we're being told so far

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Speaker 27: is a yellow alert for the weather one hundred and

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Speaker 27: twenty nine kilometers per hour wind speed, so it will

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01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 27: be significant. But look, I think we're getting so used

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01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 27: to Storm A followed by Storm BCD one of them.

1804
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 27: Eventually we'll do a lot of damage. But I think

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01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 27: it's too early in the season. I mean the sun

1806
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 27: is still shining.

1807
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Speaker 2: Here now that's good. Hey, listen what I've just got

1808
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Speaker 2: to you quick? What do you reckon this Middle East

1809
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: thing with Tiny Blair? If you took a poll of

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Speaker 2: Brits right now, the percentage be of people going Tony,

1811
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: great men for the job versus Tony Are you serious?

1812
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Speaker 27: I think it depends who you ask. If you talk

1813
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Speaker 27: to people who are Muslim, they will never ever ever

1814
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Speaker 27: forgive him for Iraq and his name is Mud. His

1815
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 27: name is Mud in the Muslim world and in the

1816
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 27: Middle East. And then you've got an awful lot of

1817
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 27: people who just don't like Blair. And then there's a

1818
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 27: group of people who I think would have him back

1819
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 27: as Prime minister in a heartbeat because economically the country

1820
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 27: was better breggsit would never have happened under Blair. And

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Speaker 27: for all his false with foreign policy, he was a

1822
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Speaker 27: brilliant domestic prime minister.

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Speaker 2: He's a survivant need nae. So you end up will

1824
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Speaker 2: catch up again soon. Appreciate it very much. Into Brady

1825
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Speaker 2: out of the UK this morning. The Victoria Bickham docco

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Speaker 2: by the Way, lends on Netflix in about a week's time.

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Speaker 2: October ninth, eight forty five The.

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Speaker 2: It'd be don't mean to boy you with my own

1831
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Speaker 2: personal problems, but I'm just looking at a headline at

1832
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 2: the moment. That's in Auckland on the Upper Harbor Highway.

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01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: Is that you glinn.

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01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 13: Not really?

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01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's good.

1836
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 27: It depends which way I go, but.

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Speaker 2: Well that's true. The traffic is goodlocked there's a five

1838
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: killometer tailback because a digger fell off a truck. Now

1839
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: how often? Now, what do we need to do about that?

1840
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: Is it just me being old and grumpy? But there's

1841
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: too much of this goes on when you're overtaking trucks

1842
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: that you're just looking at their load and you're going

1843
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: how long before that falls off? And there's only one

1844
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: reason a digger falls off the back of a truck,

1845
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: and that's because they didn't put the digger on the

1846
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: truck in the first place properly. So that's going to

1847
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 2: be ours of delays, and productivity is going to be

1848
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 2: up the spout, and people are going to miss meetings,

1849
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: and it's going to be tears in the back seat

1850
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: for the kids and all that sort of stuff. But

1851
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, all it will happen

1852
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: is that will be nine thousand road cones, four cops

1853
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of people come along and pick

1854
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: the digger up and send the truck on his way,

1855
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 2: and you might get a ticket of some description. What

1856
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: we need what do we need to do? Do we

1857
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: need to taser them? Do we need to put them

1858
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: in jail? Do we need to find the company an

1859
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 2: amount that they will go? We will never make that

1860
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: mistake again, because a guarantee, whatever happens to the idiot

1861
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: who put the digger on the truck, the answer will

1862
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 2: be nothing, and he won't care, and then he'll just

1863
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,520
Speaker 2: go about his business. And this stuff happens too much until.

1864
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 27: I guess, as far as famously said, stupid is as

1865
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 27: stupid does.

1866
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: Stupid is as stupid does. By the way, aviation is

1867
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: very very pleased to read yesterday. We're looking for a

1868
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: good October, possibly a good summer in terms of planes

1869
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: returning to the country. Air passenger traffic was up in August.

1870
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: Globally this is significantly up four point six percent, so

1871
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: that's encouraging. October volumes are set to grow by three

1872
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: point four percent. In New Zealand, they're launching out christ

1873
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Speaker 2: your cheddlaid service. They're demand for that. How many people

1874
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 2: in christ you just want to fly to Adelaide?

1875
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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you well?

1876
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Speaker 2: Why would you wine well and goo wine and wine shop?

1877
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: I need to go to Adelaide for they got to

1878
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 2: a hawk's bay if you want wine. But my point

1879
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Speaker 2: being that they don't have any planes. For a company

1880
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: that's short of planes, why would you launch a christ

1881
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: you jeddalaid service? Anyway, they're going to get another couple

1882
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 2: of planes as well, a couple of Dreamliners in New Zealand.

1883
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: So that's encouraging over summer. Jet Stars expanded. We told

1884
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Speaker 2: you about that the other day Transtasment. So that's good

1885
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 2: cathe they're increasing. Auckland Hong Kong. Now that's a place

1886
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: to go. Auckland Hong Kong. That's a route that makes sense.

1887
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Speaker 2: You go Augland Hong Kong. That's an exciting room.

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Speaker 12: About Hong Kong isn't set out the same way as

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Speaker 12: Christ Churches whereas Adelaide is, isn't it.

1890
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Speaker 2: So you're going from one similar sitson to navigation issues. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. But still still having said that,

1892
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Speaker 2: Auckland Hong Kong sounds more fun to me. Auckland Dallas

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Speaker 2: Fort Worth, that sounds heaps of fun. So if you

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Speaker 11: Auckland story before that if you can get.

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Speaker 2: To the world by see Emirates. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: This is how pathetic the shutdown problem is. Sombrero Gates

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Speaker 2: is what we've got this morning. A Republicans say the

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Speaker 2: Dems want to give healthcare to illegals. Humuses, that's an

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Speaker 2: outright lie. Trump then goes and posts an AI generated

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Speaker 2: video of ha Keen, Jefferies and Shuma.

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Speaker 6: Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes

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Speaker 6: Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all

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Speaker 6: of our walk trands bulls. Not even black people want

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Speaker 6: to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us.

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Speaker 2: Now that is just for the record, fake shumor. But

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Speaker 2: in the video, Jefferies is wearing frombrero and twiddling his mustache.

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Speaker 2: Jeffreys outraged.

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Speaker 24: It's a disgusting video, and we're going to continue to

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Speaker 24: make Claire bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting

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Speaker 24: to protect the healthcare of the American people and the

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Speaker 24: faith of an unprecedented Republican assault.

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Speaker 2: The marriage is Trump. It's got four MPs playing in

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Speaker 2: the background. Now we've got dvance been dragged into it.

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Speaker 5: Today's presser a king Jeffrey said it was a racist

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Speaker 5: and I know that he said that, and I honestly

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Speaker 5: don't even know what that means. Like, is he a

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Speaker 5: Mexican American that is offended by having a sombrero? Meme

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Speaker 5: the American people recognize that he did not actually come

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Speaker 5: to the White House wearing a sombrero and a black

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Speaker 5: curly animation mustache, Like, give the country a little bit

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Speaker 5: of credit.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey's still not in pressed.

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Speaker 24: The President has been engaging in irresponsible and un serious behavior,

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Speaker 24: demonstrating that all along Republicans wanted to shut the government down.

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Speaker 2: Do you know the problem? And my wife says it

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Speaker 2: a lot, and she's right, she's right about everything, obviously,

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Speaker 2: but she says, I see the problem with the Dems.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just the Dems, it's left leaning people

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Speaker 2: in general. And you see it a lot in this country.

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Speaker 2: The Greens in particular, the left don't have a sense

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Speaker 2: of humor, and they don't laugh, they're not life of foot,

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Speaker 2: and they take themselves far too seriously, and that, sadly

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Speaker 2: is to the detriment. We're back tomorrow morning, Friday Mornings

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Speaker 2: edition of The mic Asking Breakfast. Always Crazy, as always

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Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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