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Speaker 1: And what will come as absolutely no surprise to anyone.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Post has decided to deliver mail less often

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Speaker 1: because of declining male volumes. Now, if you live in town,

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Speaker 1: your three delivery days are going to go down to two,

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Speaker 1: and if you live rurally you'll five delivery days are

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Speaker 1: down to three. David Walsh is the CEO of New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Post.

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Speaker 2: Hi, David, I get a Heather. How are you well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? This is probably over, do you don't you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, the announcement today is something that we've been

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Speaker 2: aware of, really as a result of the way that

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Speaker 2: these Landers have changed their communication and habits. So it's

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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen since the last time we had a change,

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Speaker 2: and this is reflective of what's going on now.

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Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen do you reckon? So do you reckon? It'll

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Speaker 1: be twelve years before we have another change down.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's been hard to pick really, look where

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Posts have been around for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty five years. And look, our role is to deliver

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Speaker 2: the services that New Zealanders need. We'll keep delivering our mail,

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Speaker 2: We'll have to respond to the circumstances we're facing, but

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Speaker 2: you know, that's our job. That's what we'll continue to do.

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Speaker 1: You'd get another review when male volumes dip below. Is

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Speaker 1: it one twenty million?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, there is a trigger point there that just

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Speaker 2: allows you know if there's a reset of if the

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Speaker 2: circumstances are needing to be revisited. But look, we're not

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Speaker 2: jumping to any conclusion.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's your male volume at the moment.

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Speaker 2: So about one fifty million.

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Speaker 1: You'll had one twenty million in the next three years,

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Speaker 1: don't you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, we fully expect male to clinb male reductions

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Speaker 2: to continue. These ylanders are getting their communications very, very differently,

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Speaker 2: so it's really just a chance to reset. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: get too presumptuous about but David, I mean might care

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Speaker 2: at that time.

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Speaker 1: It's entirely feasible, isn't it that we've just gone to

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Speaker 1: two days to urban addresses, three days to rural addresses,

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Speaker 1: and within the next three years it'll be one day

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Speaker 1: urban addresses, two days rural addresses. That's possible, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, again, I wouldn't want to speculate on it.

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Speaker 2: We've certainly talked.

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Speaker 1: Yes, David, it's your job speculate. Well, not maybe to me,

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Speaker 1: but it's your job to know where this is going,

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Speaker 1: because you're the CEO.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we tell me we deliver a mail based

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Speaker 2: on what the Zelanders require us to do. They've changed

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Speaker 2: the way that they communicate, will continue to respond to

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Speaker 2: that change. Yeah, but you know, we've we've got a

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Speaker 2: very big delivery network. We were out there delivering parcels

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Speaker 2: every day. We've signaled to the long term strategy. Might

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Speaker 2: see our network deliver mail in terms of what's left over.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there'll be way too early for us to

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Speaker 2: speculate what might happen in a few years from here.

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Speaker 1: David, it sounds to me like you are bracing yourself

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Speaker 1: for negative reaction. I would have thought that most people,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, call me naive, and maybe I am,

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Speaker 1: but I would have thought that most people like me

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Speaker 1: would understand this is where it's going and this is

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Speaker 1: probably not a bad thing, don't they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly about not being concerned about the public

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Speaker 2: reaction either. People have changed the way that they communicate.

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Speaker 2: You know, back in twenty thirteen, I think we delivered

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Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty million letter items. It's like six

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Speaker 2: or seven items per household per week. We're down to

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Speaker 2: one or two. New Zealanders are changing the way they

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Speaker 2: want to receive information, but we will respond to whatever

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Speaker 2: is available to us. And I think you're right. Most

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Speaker 2: people see what comes through their mailboxes every day and

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Speaker 2: they are just accordingly. So that's our job and we'll

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Speaker 2: continue doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do a great job. Thank you, David appreciated.

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