1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: The e Commerce Commission says Aukland Airport has been overcharging airlines 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: by one hundred and ninety million dollars since twenty twenty three. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: So where did the airlines get that money from your airfares? 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: This year's price increase won't be as big as initially planned. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: After the findings were released, usually the airport's association chief 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: executive Billy Moore is with me, good morning to you, Billy. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: Good morning. 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of money. One hundred and ninety 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: million dollars. How did no one notice? Oh? 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Look, and this is part of the process, and I 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: know it sounds a bit boring, but it's true. So 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: the Comments Commission has come out with its judgment and 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Aukland the Airport has responded immediately to lower its prices 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: for the rest of the period. And so what that 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: means is that there won't be overcharging for the period 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: because they'll be compensating for that one hundred and ninety 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: million for the rest of that pricing period, so it 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: will eat it out. It wasn't unexpected in terms of 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: the feedback from the Commission because of how long these 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: processes take. The Aukland the Airport team had to had 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: to use a previous version of what we call the 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: Commerce Commission's input methodologies, which helped them figure out what 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: the right rate of return for their own viases should be. 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: That meant that the Commission was bound to have some 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: feedback on there. They've given that feedback and the airport 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: has made that adjustments. So that's what the system. 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Is supposed to do exactly. But you know, the airport 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: received the final report from the ComCom on Friday. They 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: worked over the weekend. They revised its costs down just 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: like that on a Monday. So does that suggest they 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: already knew they were guilding the lily? 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: Well, the draft report had been released in July last 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: year already kind of indicating the Commerce Commission's direction of travel, 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: so that gave a bit of an indication quite well 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: in advance. Then there was a cross the mission process. Again, 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: it sounds a bit boring, but that means that everyone, 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: including the airlines and the airports, provide more feedback to 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: the Commission to make sure that they're coming out with 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: the right call, so that they were ready to respond. 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: But it's not unexpected. 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: That they would be okay, But you know, the perception therefore, 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: is that the airport's trying to get away with as 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: much as it can. 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: Look, I disagree when you might expect. Look, fundamentally, we'd 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: have to build infrastructure in this country, and there's two 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: things that we need to get there done, which the 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: airport has been focusing on. The first is a stable 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: regulation for investors to see that the system is stable 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: and working. And second is I fair rate of return? 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: Otherwise the airport can't raise the funds for this essential infrastructure. 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: So part of this process is about working with the 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: commission and providing all the information on the table transparently 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: so that we can get to that what is that 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: right rate of return for a long running investment like 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: an airport. 56 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: So you would say, you would say that even though 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: they overcharge us by one hundred ninety million dollars in 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, this is proof that the regulatory system 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: is actually working acceptably. 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: That's right, because the commissions come out with this adjustment 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: in the newport has adjusted. That's how the system is 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: supposed to work. Yes, they went too high, but they 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: have made the adjustment and they will all smooth out early. 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Superior, Billy, I thank you so much for your time today. 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio