1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. 3 00:00:12,627 --> 00:00:15,907 Speaker 2: Let's bring it now one of our great test wingers. 4 00:00:15,787 --> 00:00:19,507 Speaker 3: As Jimmy Cown gets it. Word to Jane a little bit, 5 00:00:19,627 --> 00:00:23,987 Speaker 3: four tier Cory Tame season, Yes, he goes, he's got 6 00:00:24,027 --> 00:00:25,307 Speaker 3: some twenty good teams. 7 00:00:26,907 --> 00:00:31,187 Speaker 2: Cory Jane back to his best, and his best was very, 8 00:00:31,307 --> 00:00:34,107 Speaker 2: very good. Fifty three test, fifty five game former or 9 00:00:34,107 --> 00:00:37,147 Speaker 2: blacks winger, eighteen tries and those fifty three tests at 10 00:00:37,147 --> 00:00:40,347 Speaker 2: twenty eleven Rugby World Cup winning Our assistant coach at 11 00:00:40,347 --> 00:00:43,747 Speaker 2: the Hurricanes, Corey Jane is with us. Corey, can we 12 00:00:43,787 --> 00:00:46,587 Speaker 2: start with the aerial game because it's been such a 13 00:00:46,627 --> 00:00:49,627 Speaker 2: talking point, not just in this little period of the 14 00:00:49,707 --> 00:00:51,227 Speaker 2: Rugby Championship. 15 00:00:50,667 --> 00:00:51,707 Speaker 3: But right across the year. 16 00:00:51,787 --> 00:00:56,427 Speaker 2: Really, you were a master of diffusing those aerial bombs. 17 00:00:56,467 --> 00:01:00,307 Speaker 2: So what are the key parts of being good under 18 00:01:00,347 --> 00:01:02,027 Speaker 2: the high ball defensively to start with? 19 00:01:03,467 --> 00:01:03,707 Speaker 4: Yeah? 20 00:01:03,747 --> 00:01:06,027 Speaker 3: Mate, it's an awesome talking point, isn't it. 21 00:01:06,827 --> 00:01:10,867 Speaker 4: Look we were we had mcburn teaching us back in 22 00:01:10,907 --> 00:01:15,227 Speaker 4: the days, and it's come back to where it kind 23 00:01:15,227 --> 00:01:17,107 Speaker 4: of was back when when I played in the year. 24 00:01:17,187 --> 00:01:19,387 Speaker 3: The contest in the air and it went away from 25 00:01:19,387 --> 00:01:22,547 Speaker 3: it a bit. You know, we're able to block. Now 26 00:01:22,587 --> 00:01:25,747 Speaker 3: we've come back into it again. So the importance of 27 00:01:26,707 --> 00:01:28,187 Speaker 3: technique is back. 28 00:01:28,427 --> 00:01:30,467 Speaker 4: We lost it there for a little bit because you 29 00:01:30,467 --> 00:01:33,187 Speaker 4: were able to shield for them. So you have to 30 00:01:33,227 --> 00:01:35,867 Speaker 4: be better with your technique, and by that I mean 31 00:01:36,827 --> 00:01:41,067 Speaker 4: being square into the into the collision. You're allowed to 32 00:01:41,067 --> 00:01:43,627 Speaker 4: protect yourself with your knee jumping up and being nice 33 00:01:43,627 --> 00:01:46,867 Speaker 4: and square, and guys should be able to back themselves 34 00:01:46,907 --> 00:01:49,027 Speaker 4: to catch the ball. I think there's too many guys 35 00:01:49,587 --> 00:01:52,147 Speaker 4: jumping in the air and turning their bodies, turning their hips, 36 00:01:53,427 --> 00:01:56,907 Speaker 4: and most teams that are chasing are just jumping to 37 00:01:56,907 --> 00:01:57,827 Speaker 4: try to whack the ball back. 38 00:01:57,867 --> 00:01:59,427 Speaker 3: They're actually not trying to catch the ball. 39 00:02:00,027 --> 00:02:02,587 Speaker 4: And so you've got to be a bit more square 40 00:02:02,667 --> 00:02:06,107 Speaker 4: in your jump and a bit earlier to try to 41 00:02:06,107 --> 00:02:08,027 Speaker 4: win ball, especially when they're kicking it to you. 42 00:02:08,707 --> 00:02:11,107 Speaker 2: So in other words, as you jump up, you should 43 00:02:11,107 --> 00:02:13,987 Speaker 2: basically be facing the goalpost at the other end or 44 00:02:14,027 --> 00:02:16,907 Speaker 2: facing the other end square on yep. 45 00:02:16,987 --> 00:02:20,587 Speaker 3: And you do that not only to be stronger to 46 00:02:20,627 --> 00:02:23,387 Speaker 3: catch the ball, because with your knee up and you're. 47 00:02:23,227 --> 00:02:25,787 Speaker 4: In a strong position, but it's also it protects yourself 48 00:02:25,827 --> 00:02:28,587 Speaker 4: as well, because if you don't jump square, if your 49 00:02:28,627 --> 00:02:31,987 Speaker 4: knees square and you get hit as the collisions happen, 50 00:02:32,307 --> 00:02:35,747 Speaker 4: you're in a stronger position. If you tune your your 51 00:02:35,787 --> 00:02:38,187 Speaker 4: body and your knees a little bit sidewards and you 52 00:02:38,187 --> 00:02:40,227 Speaker 4: get hit, you could fall on the back of your head. 53 00:02:40,267 --> 00:02:41,707 Speaker 3: You can flip over the guy. 54 00:02:41,827 --> 00:02:44,027 Speaker 4: So it's also a little bit of safety for the 55 00:02:44,067 --> 00:02:47,027 Speaker 4: catcher to get back to a better technique. And again, 56 00:02:48,187 --> 00:02:50,467 Speaker 4: most people have lost it because you're able to block 57 00:02:50,507 --> 00:02:52,267 Speaker 4: for them, so you could cheat the technique a little 58 00:02:52,307 --> 00:02:52,667 Speaker 4: bit more. 59 00:02:53,347 --> 00:02:56,907 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the that's the most that's the better 60 00:02:56,907 --> 00:02:58,387 Speaker 3: way to catch it and the safest way. 61 00:02:59,147 --> 00:03:01,107 Speaker 2: And they say keep the eye that keep your eye 62 00:03:01,107 --> 00:03:02,867 Speaker 2: on the ball, which I'm sure is important too, But 63 00:03:02,987 --> 00:03:05,547 Speaker 2: how how tempting is it to have alway look at 64 00:03:05,547 --> 00:03:08,427 Speaker 2: who's who's sort of closing in on you from an 65 00:03:08,507 --> 00:03:09,587 Speaker 2: opposition point of view. 66 00:03:10,107 --> 00:03:13,067 Speaker 4: NA, be honest, man, You know that they're coming and 67 00:03:13,147 --> 00:03:15,667 Speaker 4: you can feel them when you're watching the ball anyway, 68 00:03:16,747 --> 00:03:20,467 Speaker 4: and you do you should do your homework. You I know, 69 00:03:20,507 --> 00:03:22,987 Speaker 4: when I played a long long time ago, you knew 70 00:03:23,027 --> 00:03:25,707 Speaker 4: which wingers you were, you were who was chasing and 71 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:26,267 Speaker 4: how they. 72 00:03:26,187 --> 00:03:29,867 Speaker 3: Like to attack the ball, and so you do all 73 00:03:29,867 --> 00:03:32,307 Speaker 3: that anyway, and it's cool getting up in the air. 74 00:03:32,627 --> 00:03:36,067 Speaker 4: Rugby has changed now, and it's funny when you when 75 00:03:36,067 --> 00:03:40,307 Speaker 4: I hear people talk about catching high balls and wingers 76 00:03:40,347 --> 00:03:42,507 Speaker 4: need to help the fullbacks and all that. Back when 77 00:03:42,547 --> 00:03:45,067 Speaker 4: I played, there was one fullback and wingers were in 78 00:03:45,067 --> 00:03:49,067 Speaker 4: the backsfield. Now days, you know, the last six seven years, 79 00:03:49,347 --> 00:03:51,787 Speaker 4: there's two fullbacks, your fullbacks in the backfield and your 80 00:03:51,827 --> 00:03:55,107 Speaker 4: tens boys in the backfield. So wingers don't catch high 81 00:03:55,107 --> 00:03:58,027 Speaker 4: balls anymore. It's your fifteen and it's your ten catching 82 00:03:58,107 --> 00:04:01,507 Speaker 4: high balls. So when they say that wingers need to 83 00:04:01,547 --> 00:04:04,107 Speaker 4: help will Jordan that in the backfield catching high balls, 84 00:04:04,107 --> 00:04:04,627 Speaker 4: they don't do it. 85 00:04:04,627 --> 00:04:07,427 Speaker 3: It's just the system and the game's change. 86 00:04:07,427 --> 00:04:08,987 Speaker 4: It's more and you're ten and you're fifteen to be 87 00:04:09,027 --> 00:04:11,467 Speaker 4: better at at. 88 00:04:11,187 --> 00:04:13,267 Speaker 3: Catching techniques than it as wingers these days. 89 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:15,547 Speaker 2: I remember, though, that Rugby World Cup semi final in 90 00:04:15,587 --> 00:04:18,587 Speaker 2: twenty eleven. You knew Australia were going to kick all night. 91 00:04:18,707 --> 00:04:22,667 Speaker 2: You Israel, Dad, Richard Carhui diffused everything. I remember all 92 00:04:22,707 --> 00:04:24,827 Speaker 2: three of you being under the high ball, you know, 93 00:04:24,907 --> 00:04:27,347 Speaker 2: quite regularly that night, or as my memory failed me. 94 00:04:28,467 --> 00:04:29,907 Speaker 3: We know, we had a. 95 00:04:31,387 --> 00:04:34,147 Speaker 4: Mindset that whole World Cup to be one hundred percent 96 00:04:34,707 --> 00:04:36,427 Speaker 4: and so we put a lot of work into catching 97 00:04:36,427 --> 00:04:39,027 Speaker 4: eyeballs and I know the guys do now again, but 98 00:04:39,187 --> 00:04:42,387 Speaker 4: you know, like technique becomes a massive part of it, 99 00:04:42,427 --> 00:04:44,347 Speaker 4: and lot we didn't know that Ossie were going to 100 00:04:44,387 --> 00:04:46,867 Speaker 4: put heaps of high balls up because we'd actually done 101 00:04:46,907 --> 00:04:51,267 Speaker 4: an all right job during the whole World Cup. Well 102 00:04:51,267 --> 00:04:53,307 Speaker 4: they just keep putting them up, and you know we 103 00:04:53,427 --> 00:04:57,547 Speaker 4: had a focus to diffuse them and you know we 104 00:04:57,627 --> 00:05:01,307 Speaker 4: managed to do that. But yeah, like the games come 105 00:05:01,347 --> 00:05:05,947 Speaker 4: back where the box kick is massive again and you 106 00:05:05,987 --> 00:05:08,147 Speaker 4: know it's going to be there, and I don't know 107 00:05:08,187 --> 00:05:12,947 Speaker 4: if it's exactly what World Rugby wanted to speed the 108 00:05:12,987 --> 00:05:15,187 Speaker 4: game up, because everyone's setting up box kicks now. But 109 00:05:16,067 --> 00:05:19,667 Speaker 4: the contact in the air, the collision, you know, it's 110 00:05:19,667 --> 00:05:21,907 Speaker 4: back and I don't mind it because I, again, I 111 00:05:21,987 --> 00:05:23,667 Speaker 4: made a living of catching those things, so I actually 112 00:05:23,747 --> 00:05:26,427 Speaker 4: enjoy seeing guys contest in the air. 113 00:05:26,867 --> 00:05:29,547 Speaker 2: What about from attacking point of view, though, Cory, A 114 00:05:29,547 --> 00:05:32,067 Speaker 2: lot of people are mystified by the box cack. When 115 00:05:32,107 --> 00:05:34,507 Speaker 2: you're in possession, obviously you've got the ball you kick at. 116 00:05:34,947 --> 00:05:37,827 Speaker 2: In general, terms, What is the what is the idea 117 00:05:37,947 --> 00:05:39,467 Speaker 2: behind box kicking. 118 00:05:40,387 --> 00:05:42,467 Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to catch now, you know, like it 119 00:05:42,587 --> 00:05:45,627 Speaker 3: used to be. You know, you can put. 120 00:05:45,467 --> 00:05:50,187 Speaker 4: The the defensive team under pressure. You can isolate guys 121 00:05:50,227 --> 00:05:53,747 Speaker 4: in the backfield. They're probably not the best at catching. 122 00:05:53,827 --> 00:05:57,147 Speaker 4: And nowadays it's just such a well last year or so, 123 00:05:58,547 --> 00:06:03,027 Speaker 4: it's such an area where it's so contested and you 124 00:06:03,067 --> 00:06:06,307 Speaker 4: know most teams aren't catching them and so there's fifty 125 00:06:06,387 --> 00:06:08,987 Speaker 4: fifties on the ground and the ball can go anywhere 126 00:06:09,067 --> 00:06:10,467 Speaker 4: and you can get a knock on, so you can 127 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:14,427 Speaker 4: get a set piece. And I think the All Blacks 128 00:06:15,307 --> 00:06:18,987 Speaker 4: will try and play a little bit more tonight. I 129 00:06:19,027 --> 00:06:21,747 Speaker 4: don't think they'll want to continue to go into box 130 00:06:21,827 --> 00:06:24,067 Speaker 4: kicks and play the I guess the way that South 131 00:06:24,067 --> 00:06:26,747 Speaker 4: Africa have played the game. But it's just a great 132 00:06:26,787 --> 00:06:29,027 Speaker 4: way to not. 133 00:06:28,907 --> 00:06:30,027 Speaker 3: Put yourself under pressure. 134 00:06:30,667 --> 00:06:32,267 Speaker 4: You know, if you're playing with the ball and you're 135 00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:37,147 Speaker 4: going eighteen fifteen phases and you're not making any inroads 136 00:06:37,147 --> 00:06:39,907 Speaker 4: into the defense, you can put yourself under pressure. And 137 00:06:39,987 --> 00:06:43,827 Speaker 4: so you see at international level playoff football, the box 138 00:06:43,907 --> 00:06:46,227 Speaker 4: kicking or the kicking can take a little bit of 139 00:06:46,227 --> 00:06:49,707 Speaker 4: pressure off off your attack, can put pressure back onto 140 00:06:49,707 --> 00:06:51,707 Speaker 4: the catching team and then you can put them under 141 00:06:51,707 --> 00:06:53,747 Speaker 4: pressure with your defense. 142 00:06:53,787 --> 00:06:56,507 Speaker 3: So it's a massive part. 143 00:06:56,347 --> 00:06:58,027 Speaker 4: In the game and it's only going to grow with this, 144 00:06:58,307 --> 00:07:00,987 Speaker 4: you know, the way that it's gone now off the 145 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:01,627 Speaker 4: collision work. 146 00:07:02,267 --> 00:07:03,547 Speaker 3: Great insight, mate, great insight. 147 00:07:03,627 --> 00:07:05,027 Speaker 2: Just want to ask you about a couple of players 148 00:07:05,267 --> 00:07:07,627 Speaker 2: who you've had a lot to do with with the Hurricanes. 149 00:07:07,667 --> 00:07:09,627 Speaker 2: Billy propped us the first one. He's been giving a 150 00:07:09,627 --> 00:07:11,547 Speaker 2: decent crack in the thirteen jersey this year for the 151 00:07:11,547 --> 00:07:14,467 Speaker 2: All Blacks. Tonight will be his sixth test of the 152 00:07:14,507 --> 00:07:16,667 Speaker 2: seven this year. How do you reckon he's going for 153 00:07:16,707 --> 00:07:17,707 Speaker 2: the All Blacks at thirteen? 154 00:07:18,107 --> 00:07:19,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's gone as bad as some 155 00:07:19,547 --> 00:07:20,187 Speaker 3: people have said. 156 00:07:20,987 --> 00:07:23,467 Speaker 4: Obviously he's not, you know, his testmus Rugby, he's not 157 00:07:23,467 --> 00:07:27,227 Speaker 4: standing out like like I guess he does with the Hurricanes. 158 00:07:27,227 --> 00:07:31,107 Speaker 4: But if your watch his game properly, and what he 159 00:07:31,147 --> 00:07:34,387 Speaker 4: does for the Canes is his energy and effort and 160 00:07:34,427 --> 00:07:36,667 Speaker 4: to always be an option and to always be in 161 00:07:36,707 --> 00:07:40,067 Speaker 4: the right place and to always clean up passes that 162 00:07:40,107 --> 00:07:43,067 Speaker 4: have gone to ground or kicks or make reads on 163 00:07:43,107 --> 00:07:45,027 Speaker 4: defense like that was a big part. 164 00:07:44,867 --> 00:07:47,307 Speaker 3: Of it, and he's doing it now. For the All Blacks. 165 00:07:48,387 --> 00:07:51,067 Speaker 3: I think a little bit of maybe guys inside him. 166 00:07:51,147 --> 00:07:56,147 Speaker 4: Jeordia a couple of times has made some interesting reads 167 00:07:56,307 --> 00:08:00,867 Speaker 4: which has put pressure on which put pressure on Billy, 168 00:08:01,027 --> 00:08:02,747 Speaker 4: but also did that of Anton when he got the 169 00:08:02,827 --> 00:08:03,267 Speaker 4: yellow card. 170 00:08:03,307 --> 00:08:05,147 Speaker 3: That was Jordie's fault from jamming in. 171 00:08:06,667 --> 00:08:10,147 Speaker 4: And then the wingers just where they're positioned, can can 172 00:08:10,227 --> 00:08:12,987 Speaker 4: help or can make it harder on midfielders because that's 173 00:08:12,987 --> 00:08:15,987 Speaker 4: where the pressure point is both attack and d and 174 00:08:16,027 --> 00:08:19,387 Speaker 4: so so a couple of the scrum options when he's 175 00:08:19,387 --> 00:08:23,307 Speaker 4: got beaten, especially against France, wasn't his fault. It was 176 00:08:23,387 --> 00:08:26,227 Speaker 4: the wingers been been too deep in that one, so 177 00:08:26,267 --> 00:08:29,067 Speaker 4: they didn't help him. So look, he's he's got to 178 00:08:29,067 --> 00:08:30,267 Speaker 4: be better because the pressure. 179 00:08:30,027 --> 00:08:30,427 Speaker 3: Is on him. 180 00:08:30,587 --> 00:08:34,667 Speaker 4: But he hasn't been as bad as as some people 181 00:08:34,667 --> 00:08:35,187 Speaker 4: have made out. 182 00:08:35,427 --> 00:08:37,827 Speaker 2: And while I was and Rubin Love is the other one, 183 00:08:37,827 --> 00:08:39,747 Speaker 2: he gets an opportunity off the bench tonight, just a 184 00:08:39,827 --> 00:08:42,347 Speaker 2: second test of the year. Third overall, I guess he 185 00:08:42,467 --> 00:08:44,707 Speaker 2: just has to be patient, does he. We all know 186 00:08:44,747 --> 00:08:47,627 Speaker 2: what a good player rig is, but in a stacked backfield, 187 00:08:47,627 --> 00:08:49,787 Speaker 2: does he just have to be a bit patient? 188 00:08:50,507 --> 00:08:52,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, he does, and he's just got to take his opportunities. 189 00:08:53,667 --> 00:08:55,027 Speaker 3: You know, Will Jordan's at four. 190 00:08:55,067 --> 00:08:58,667 Speaker 4: We got McKenzie, who's I think is you know, just 191 00:08:58,707 --> 00:09:00,907 Speaker 4: as good at the back, and he's awesome at catching 192 00:09:00,987 --> 00:09:04,147 Speaker 4: high boards. And I think Ruben's best attribute is going 193 00:09:04,227 --> 00:09:07,707 Speaker 4: to be high balls. You know, he's got off off 194 00:09:07,747 --> 00:09:10,507 Speaker 4: both legs jumping. We're not if you if you watch 195 00:09:11,587 --> 00:09:14,107 Speaker 4: Will Jordan's and McKenzies and guys like that, they can 196 00:09:14,107 --> 00:09:15,947 Speaker 4: only jump off one one side of the you know, 197 00:09:15,987 --> 00:09:18,627 Speaker 4: one leg, where Reuben can actually jump off both. 198 00:09:19,107 --> 00:09:22,267 Speaker 3: So he suited around the whole field. So that's his 199 00:09:22,347 --> 00:09:23,027 Speaker 3: best attribute. 200 00:09:23,027 --> 00:09:26,467 Speaker 4: And if do kext coming, he gets an opportunity, you know, 201 00:09:26,507 --> 00:09:27,387 Speaker 4: he's just got to take it. 202 00:09:27,427 --> 00:09:29,667 Speaker 3: And but yeah, you're gonna have to be patient. 203 00:09:29,947 --> 00:09:33,667 Speaker 4: Everyone knows, and and rugby or in sports and any team, 204 00:09:34,107 --> 00:09:36,427 Speaker 4: if you've got quality guys in front of you, you know, 205 00:09:36,467 --> 00:09:39,107 Speaker 4: you can't expect to just say, coach, drop them and 206 00:09:39,187 --> 00:09:41,107 Speaker 4: let me ever go. You've got to, you know, continue 207 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:43,867 Speaker 4: to train well. And when you do good opportunities, you've 208 00:09:43,867 --> 00:09:45,587 Speaker 4: got to you've got to perform. 209 00:09:45,627 --> 00:09:47,827 Speaker 3: So then your coaches start thinking, yeah, I can play 210 00:09:47,867 --> 00:09:48,187 Speaker 3: this guy. 211 00:09:48,587 --> 00:09:49,947 Speaker 2: Do you reckon we'll win again tonight. 212 00:09:51,707 --> 00:09:54,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think so, I hope. So I'm 213 00:09:54,107 --> 00:09:56,867 Speaker 3: gonna be there. I'm taking my my youngest, my youngest 214 00:09:56,907 --> 00:10:01,027 Speaker 3: daughter to his first All Black game, So yeah, I hope. 215 00:10:01,027 --> 00:10:01,587 Speaker 3: So I think. 216 00:10:03,307 --> 00:10:05,147 Speaker 4: You know, like I said, the All Backs might throw 217 00:10:05,187 --> 00:10:06,867 Speaker 4: it around a little bit more than than what. 218 00:10:06,827 --> 00:10:09,867 Speaker 3: They did South Africa. 219 00:10:10,107 --> 00:10:13,987 Speaker 4: I don't have to be so predictable as they were 220 00:10:14,027 --> 00:10:15,507 Speaker 4: to start the game, you know, the same kind of 221 00:10:16,307 --> 00:10:18,707 Speaker 4: line out strike to throw them all and got picked 222 00:10:18,747 --> 00:10:21,747 Speaker 4: the part and they started bad and they worked their 223 00:10:21,787 --> 00:10:23,467 Speaker 4: way back into it. So I reckon is going to 224 00:10:23,507 --> 00:10:26,347 Speaker 4: be an unbelievable test match in What a cool place 225 00:10:26,387 --> 00:10:29,147 Speaker 4: to be in at the Capitol. 226 00:10:29,307 --> 00:10:30,067 Speaker 3: Absolutely right. 227 00:10:30,187 --> 00:10:32,067 Speaker 2: Great to chat as always, Corey, enjoy the game, mate, 228 00:10:32,067 --> 00:10:32,707 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time. 229 00:10:33,187 --> 00:10:34,827 Speaker 3: Here's Bonny, good on you mate. 230 00:10:34,827 --> 00:10:37,867 Speaker 2: That is Cory Jane, assistant coach with the Hurricanes these 231 00:10:37,947 --> 00:10:41,107 Speaker 2: days and former All Blacks winger of course rugby World 232 00:10:41,147 --> 00:10:44,547 Speaker 2: Cup winner. He knows a lot about the game of rugby, 233 00:10:45,067 --> 00:10:47,107 Speaker 2: you can tell just by listening to him. Corey Jane's 234 00:10:47,107 --> 00:10:48,947 Speaker 2: always been a guy who's been a bit of a joker. 235 00:10:49,427 --> 00:10:52,067 Speaker 2: I think he's always great in media situations, was when 236 00:10:52,067 --> 00:10:55,707 Speaker 2: he was playing, but always sort of considered as a 237 00:10:55,707 --> 00:10:58,067 Speaker 2: as a you know, a bit of a joker, a 238 00:10:58,107 --> 00:11:00,347 Speaker 2: guy who was going to bring everybody together with a 239 00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:03,187 Speaker 2: laugh and you know, a clever line. But he has 240 00:11:03,307 --> 00:11:06,747 Speaker 2: a deep rugby knowledge. It's obvious just from listening to him. 241 00:11:06,747 --> 00:11:10,267 Speaker 2: In the detail he went into there about how as 242 00:11:10,307 --> 00:11:10,867 Speaker 2: you catch. 243 00:11:10,667 --> 00:11:12,747 Speaker 3: The high ball, why you do box kicks? 244 00:11:12,987 --> 00:11:14,987 Speaker 2: What we should be looking for when we look at 245 00:11:15,107 --> 00:11:17,267 Speaker 2: the way Billy Propt is playing for the All Blacks 246 00:11:17,267 --> 00:11:19,227 Speaker 2: at the moment? Was this says on text, please make 247 00:11:19,667 --> 00:11:22,507 Speaker 2: Corey Jane the next All Blacks coach. Well, you know 248 00:11:23,147 --> 00:11:27,187 Speaker 2: he's in that Hurricane system. He's in charge of defense 249 00:11:28,147 --> 00:11:31,547 Speaker 2: at Hurricanes HQ. And I'll tell you what, he's clearly 250 00:11:31,547 --> 00:11:34,787 Speaker 2: built up a very impressive breadth of rugby. Knowlan's great 251 00:11:34,787 --> 00:11:35,867 Speaker 2: to have Corey Jane on the show. 252 00:11:36,587 --> 00:11:39,787 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 253 00:11:39,907 --> 00:11:43,187 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 254 00:11:43,227 --> 00:11:44,827 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.