1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,067 Speaker 1: from Newstalks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:15,707 Speaker 2: EDB Masship Netball Final four o'clock this afternoon, live commentary 4 00:00:15,707 --> 00:00:18,267 Speaker 2: over on Gold Sport. From four o'clock, the two time 5 00:00:18,347 --> 00:00:20,467 Speaker 2: defending champion Mystics will host. 6 00:00:20,387 --> 00:00:26,187 Speaker 3: Let's salute favorite and why not? And what a performance 7 00:00:26,787 --> 00:00:31,027 Speaker 3: from the Mystics. They march into the Grand Final once 8 00:00:31,107 --> 00:00:36,267 Speaker 3: again and set it rumpting on their home court and 9 00:00:36,347 --> 00:00:38,587 Speaker 3: they will host the decider in two. 10 00:00:38,387 --> 00:00:40,627 Speaker 2: Weeks time, and that is this afternoon. They're up against 11 00:00:40,667 --> 00:00:43,427 Speaker 2: the Tactics at Trust's Arena in Auckland. Let's bring in 12 00:00:43,467 --> 00:00:46,947 Speaker 2: Mystics Captain Mikaela sokolch Beats and Makaula. What a season 13 00:00:47,067 --> 00:00:50,667 Speaker 2: nine wins, just the one defeat clean number one? How 14 00:00:50,667 --> 00:00:53,667 Speaker 2: did you achieve such remarkable consistency this year? 15 00:00:54,227 --> 00:00:57,347 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm great, Christian. I was smiling when you said, 16 00:00:57,787 --> 00:00:59,867 Speaker 4: like two time champion, it's actually nice to hear that. 17 00:00:59,907 --> 00:01:03,027 Speaker 4: I forget sometimes that that's the position, right. I think 18 00:01:03,067 --> 00:01:07,147 Speaker 4: the team did it through just using our entire group, 19 00:01:07,347 --> 00:01:09,627 Speaker 4: like at times we were forced to because of injuries, 20 00:01:09,627 --> 00:01:12,987 Speaker 4: but I think as well the coaches gave people opportunities 21 00:01:13,067 --> 00:01:15,467 Speaker 4: because of what they were doing at training, and I 22 00:01:15,507 --> 00:01:17,627 Speaker 4: think the fact that you can turn to your bench 23 00:01:17,707 --> 00:01:19,907 Speaker 4: and know that there's someone ready to go on it 24 00:01:20,027 --> 00:01:23,107 Speaker 4: just puts a really nice quiet confidence in the group. 25 00:01:23,747 --> 00:01:26,267 Speaker 2: Of course, after the loss of Grace Wiki, I think 26 00:01:26,307 --> 00:01:27,827 Speaker 2: a lot of people thought, right, the mystics aren't going 27 00:01:27,867 --> 00:01:30,667 Speaker 2: to be the same side. They've lost their major threat 28 00:01:30,787 --> 00:01:34,347 Speaker 2: in the shooting circle. How did you adapt so well 29 00:01:34,747 --> 00:01:35,867 Speaker 2: to life without Grace? 30 00:01:36,427 --> 00:01:39,507 Speaker 4: It's a good question, Like, she was awesome, she is awesome. 31 00:01:39,547 --> 00:01:42,307 Speaker 4: We were sad to see her go, but knew that 32 00:01:42,307 --> 00:01:43,947 Speaker 4: that was mean she needed to do for her stuff. 33 00:01:44,067 --> 00:01:46,187 Speaker 4: But then we also got a shoulder like to now 34 00:01:46,747 --> 00:01:51,747 Speaker 4: an Australian international, somebody who absolutely didn't dominate a goal circle. 35 00:01:51,827 --> 00:01:55,187 Speaker 4: We had Fielder and Hannah and even Peter step up 36 00:01:55,187 --> 00:01:57,947 Speaker 4: in that goal attack role, and then Sophia come on. 37 00:01:58,067 --> 00:02:00,147 Speaker 4: I just think we did it in a real collective 38 00:02:00,187 --> 00:02:03,987 Speaker 4: way and everyone knew what their job was and how 39 00:02:04,027 --> 00:02:06,147 Speaker 4: we had to adjust our game plan to work with 40 00:02:06,187 --> 00:02:07,307 Speaker 4: the people we now had. 41 00:02:07,747 --> 00:02:10,947 Speaker 2: Did you consciously before the season started work on a 42 00:02:10,987 --> 00:02:13,427 Speaker 2: different way of playing, I guess and you'll be able 43 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:15,347 Speaker 2: to confirm this that when Grace Week is in the 44 00:02:15,347 --> 00:02:17,867 Speaker 2: shooting circle. There's a temptation just to try and find 45 00:02:17,947 --> 00:02:20,507 Speaker 2: her every time. Did you have to consciously come up 46 00:02:20,547 --> 00:02:22,267 Speaker 2: with a different kind of game. 47 00:02:22,027 --> 00:02:23,307 Speaker 1: Plan, Yeah, you do. 48 00:02:23,467 --> 00:02:26,587 Speaker 4: When you've got to shoot who's like six foot three 49 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:29,827 Speaker 4: thoot four and who can jump a massive vertical jump, 50 00:02:30,427 --> 00:02:33,947 Speaker 4: that is a huge advantage, right, and just Peter could 51 00:02:33,947 --> 00:02:36,747 Speaker 4: feed her beautifully. So yeah, we definitely had to change 52 00:02:36,787 --> 00:02:38,867 Speaker 4: up the way we had to play. But I think 53 00:02:38,907 --> 00:02:42,107 Speaker 4: that has just added to the strength of everybody's like 54 00:02:42,347 --> 00:02:45,627 Speaker 4: skills there, and I think, yeah, we were very conscious 55 00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:48,707 Speaker 4: on how we were going to try and develop our 56 00:02:48,747 --> 00:02:50,987 Speaker 4: skills so we could slay a different brand and netball. 57 00:02:51,667 --> 00:02:54,267 Speaker 2: So just one defeat that was to the tactics. Of course, 58 00:02:54,307 --> 00:02:56,707 Speaker 2: so you play in the final. I know you never 59 00:02:56,787 --> 00:02:59,227 Speaker 2: like to lose matches, But in hindsight, was it a 60 00:02:59,227 --> 00:03:02,627 Speaker 2: good thing to remove any possibility of complacency for the final? 61 00:03:03,347 --> 00:03:06,347 Speaker 4: Yeah, where we didn't turn up in that game at all. 62 00:03:06,907 --> 00:03:09,547 Speaker 4: I've said in a couple other interhos we were we 63 00:03:09,547 --> 00:03:12,547 Speaker 4: weren't good, and we were so disappointed with ourselves. It 64 00:03:12,747 --> 00:03:16,787 Speaker 4: definitely made us look at ourselves quite hard. We reflected 65 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:19,547 Speaker 4: a lot throughout that week and that is something that 66 00:03:19,587 --> 00:03:21,707 Speaker 4: we've been holding on to a little bit. Okay, what 67 00:03:21,787 --> 00:03:23,467 Speaker 4: did we doing that? How did we go and that? 68 00:03:23,667 --> 00:03:26,787 Speaker 4: Why did things break down? So yeah, definitely something that 69 00:03:26,867 --> 00:03:30,427 Speaker 4: I think the mystics needed to just keep our focus 70 00:03:30,467 --> 00:03:31,067 Speaker 4: really sharp. 71 00:03:31,667 --> 00:03:33,867 Speaker 2: Last year you won it from third, you had to 72 00:03:33,867 --> 00:03:36,267 Speaker 2: come through away games in the playoffs. You beat the 73 00:03:36,307 --> 00:03:39,387 Speaker 2: Tactics and the Polls both away. How different a scenario 74 00:03:39,627 --> 00:03:41,547 Speaker 2: is it this year with just the one playoff game 75 00:03:41,587 --> 00:03:43,947 Speaker 2: the grand final on your home court. 76 00:03:44,227 --> 00:03:47,867 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different. It's a lot different. We did it 77 00:03:47,867 --> 00:03:50,827 Speaker 4: this way the year before and won it, and then 78 00:03:50,907 --> 00:03:53,307 Speaker 4: last year we had to do all the elimination final 79 00:03:53,347 --> 00:03:55,987 Speaker 4: and that. It's different when you've got two weeks to 80 00:03:56,067 --> 00:03:58,987 Speaker 4: sit on the factor in the final, it's different in 81 00:03:59,107 --> 00:04:02,667 Speaker 4: terms of people talk about it. For two weeks. You 82 00:04:02,787 --> 00:04:06,107 Speaker 4: get a weekend off playing, so you get a little 83 00:04:06,147 --> 00:04:09,627 Speaker 4: bit a different sort of routine. 84 00:04:10,027 --> 00:04:10,267 Speaker 2: Yeah. 85 00:04:10,507 --> 00:04:13,627 Speaker 4: I think there's pros and cons to each way about it. 86 00:04:14,067 --> 00:04:17,147 Speaker 2: How did you spend your weekend off and in fact, 87 00:04:17,187 --> 00:04:19,147 Speaker 2: I guess the last two weeks since you last played 88 00:04:19,347 --> 00:04:21,747 Speaker 2: to make sure you get that balance right between refreshing 89 00:04:21,787 --> 00:04:23,067 Speaker 2: but also staying switched on. 90 00:04:23,667 --> 00:04:25,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard one nay and It's one of those 91 00:04:25,787 --> 00:04:28,507 Speaker 4: things that's kind of like, damned if you do, damned 92 00:04:28,507 --> 00:04:30,947 Speaker 4: if you don't. It's going to be positive and negatives 93 00:04:30,987 --> 00:04:33,907 Speaker 4: kind of however you do it. We played a game 94 00:04:34,027 --> 00:04:38,347 Speaker 4: last Friday and then we did our own conditioning on Saturday. 95 00:04:38,387 --> 00:04:40,747 Speaker 4: We did try to give the bodies a little bit 96 00:04:40,747 --> 00:04:44,667 Speaker 4: of reprieve earlier on in the two weeks, just to recover, 97 00:04:44,747 --> 00:04:47,187 Speaker 4: but then this week we have been honing in and 98 00:04:47,427 --> 00:04:48,587 Speaker 4: everything has been tough. 99 00:04:49,147 --> 00:04:51,507 Speaker 2: So you are the two time defending champions now. The 100 00:04:51,587 --> 00:04:54,827 Speaker 2: steal won two straight in twenty seventeen and eighteen. The 101 00:04:54,867 --> 00:04:58,067 Speaker 2: Pulseter that in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, no one's 102 00:04:58,147 --> 00:05:00,987 Speaker 2: ever won at three on the bounce. How determined ay 103 00:05:01,027 --> 00:05:02,347 Speaker 2: to become the first team to do that. 104 00:05:02,867 --> 00:05:05,347 Speaker 4: We are determined. It's actually not think we've spoken a 105 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:08,267 Speaker 4: lot about until yesterd and our team meeting, and yeah, 106 00:05:08,347 --> 00:05:09,987 Speaker 4: we were like, man, that would be that would be 107 00:05:10,067 --> 00:05:11,987 Speaker 4: epic and that would be cool. But we also know 108 00:05:12,067 --> 00:05:15,027 Speaker 4: that the tactics are in a bit of a different position, 109 00:05:15,147 --> 00:05:17,707 Speaker 4: is there haven't won, so they're really gunning for it. 110 00:05:17,867 --> 00:05:19,987 Speaker 4: You know, it's there for the taking, But then it's 111 00:05:19,987 --> 00:05:23,227 Speaker 4: our too, So I think both teams have a very 112 00:05:23,267 --> 00:05:26,147 Speaker 4: similar fight in them, but for different reasons. 113 00:05:26,507 --> 00:05:28,387 Speaker 2: And as you say, you know you did it in 114 00:05:28,387 --> 00:05:30,307 Speaker 2: two different ways the last couple of seasons and two 115 00:05:30,627 --> 00:05:32,587 Speaker 2: very different grand finals as well, and they will buy 116 00:05:32,627 --> 00:05:35,307 Speaker 2: the last year and they had a very comfortable victory 117 00:05:35,307 --> 00:05:38,347 Speaker 2: of the year before. So there's two different ways that 118 00:05:38,427 --> 00:05:40,667 Speaker 2: might go on the weekend or somewhere in between. But 119 00:05:40,747 --> 00:05:43,147 Speaker 2: are there things that that are common to all grand 120 00:05:43,187 --> 00:05:46,387 Speaker 2: finals that that you have to do particularly well? 121 00:05:47,107 --> 00:05:50,187 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like you've got to turn up Like 122 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:54,747 Speaker 4: Finals Network is so different to regular games. It sounds 123 00:05:54,787 --> 00:05:56,467 Speaker 4: really weird because you're playing the same people. You're like, 124 00:05:56,467 --> 00:05:58,187 Speaker 4: why would it be you want to win every game 125 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:01,787 Speaker 4: but Final Network. If you watched the Tactics Pulls game Man, 126 00:06:01,827 --> 00:06:04,187 Speaker 4: that was a game of two halves and it was tart. 127 00:06:04,347 --> 00:06:07,587 Speaker 4: I was watching, thinking, well, this is brutal. The Tactics 128 00:06:07,627 --> 00:06:10,467 Speaker 4: had three losses in the second half, that's unheard of 129 00:06:10,507 --> 00:06:12,667 Speaker 4: the Nipbull. That just shows that they stepped up and 130 00:06:12,667 --> 00:06:14,067 Speaker 4: they were ready for the challenge. 131 00:06:14,747 --> 00:06:18,027 Speaker 2: And for you it's a distant memory now, I know, 132 00:06:18,107 --> 00:06:20,027 Speaker 2: but you had that terrible time of things with your 133 00:06:20,027 --> 00:06:22,907 Speaker 2: achilles in successive years. I think you had all the 134 00:06:22,907 --> 00:06:25,547 Speaker 2: bad luck of a whole career sort of rolled into 135 00:06:25,547 --> 00:06:27,827 Speaker 2: a couple of years. How do you reflect back on 136 00:06:27,867 --> 00:06:28,627 Speaker 2: that time now? 137 00:06:29,307 --> 00:06:32,027 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, it just makes me grateful that people still 138 00:06:32,067 --> 00:06:35,267 Speaker 4: believed I could do my job. There was definitely times 139 00:06:35,267 --> 00:06:37,107 Speaker 4: I thought that no one was going to want me 140 00:06:37,147 --> 00:06:40,467 Speaker 4: again because I'd look at me as this injury prone girl. 141 00:06:40,987 --> 00:06:42,747 Speaker 4: And the fact that I've been able to come back 142 00:06:42,787 --> 00:06:44,907 Speaker 4: and prove the people that I actually am strong and 143 00:06:45,267 --> 00:06:48,387 Speaker 4: my body is fighting, but then also have people that 144 00:06:48,467 --> 00:06:52,027 Speaker 4: have believed in me as Yeah, definitely made just grateful 145 00:06:52,067 --> 00:06:52,547 Speaker 4: to be here. 146 00:06:52,987 --> 00:06:54,947 Speaker 2: Do you let yourself think about lifting up that trophy 147 00:06:54,947 --> 00:06:56,827 Speaker 2: again on Sunday early evening? 148 00:06:57,987 --> 00:07:00,867 Speaker 4: No, honestly, no, I don't want to think about it 149 00:07:00,907 --> 00:07:02,827 Speaker 4: just yet. I just want to think about what I 150 00:07:02,867 --> 00:07:05,747 Speaker 4: need to do in the game, and yeah, I don't 151 00:07:05,747 --> 00:07:08,107 Speaker 4: want to get too caught up in the outcome just yet. 152 00:07:08,227 --> 00:07:10,787 Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, So thanks MICHAELA all the best, 153 00:07:10,827 --> 00:07:14,107 Speaker 2: Mikaela Sokolch Beason Captain of the Mystics. 154 00:07:14,187 --> 00:07:16,787 Speaker 1: Let's get you in for more from Weekend Sport with 155 00:07:16,947 --> 00:07:20,347 Speaker 1: Jason Fine. Listen live to news Talks it B weekends 156 00:07:20,387 --> 00:07:23,467 Speaker 1: from midday or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio,