1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:00,400 Speaker 1: Now. 2 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 2: Two Islamic schools in South Auckland have been closed for 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: the day and they've called the cops regarding a threatening email. 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: A video has come in featuring a man shooting guns. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: It was email to the principle of Al Madina School 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: in Mangare at about eleven o'clock last night, and some 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: other staff at the school were also sent the email. 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Abdu Razak is the chairperson of the Federation of Islamic 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Associations and with us. Now, hey, I'm done. 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: Hey, let me clarify kill I'm not the chairperson chairperson 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: of the Royal Commission. 12 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Oh right, sorry about this. So you're the chairperson of 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: the Royal Commission. 14 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Here by facts? 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: Here am I having a crack at the educators and 16 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: I kind of get this stuff right? Hey, listen, have 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: you seen this email? 18 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Well? 19 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Yes I have, Okay, what did you see? 20 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Look? I really can't talk about the details of it, because, 21 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: as you know, it's a police are investigating, and it's 22 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: best we let it be, have some patience and they 23 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: do what they do best, and I think that would 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: be that's I can say. I have seen the email. 25 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: I also seen the video and frankly, I was so 26 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: shocked and then I can understand very much why the 27 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: kids and that would be very traumatized. Well, what's happening 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: if and the school administration, the community, they're all, you know, 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: and our concern is the welfare and well being. Look, 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the police are tracking and tracing and we hope we 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: get this. This would be terrorist, you know, or a 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: crackpot who is having a go at our Muslim community. 33 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: And it's not just us, you know, as you know, 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: with the global thing where it is now, it could 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: happen to us. You know, another school could happen to 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: a synagogue, it could happen to a community, a women's center, 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: and like for us, there are important lessons from this 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: and those are sort of we put on our press release. 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: One is that we need to make sure our national 40 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: security settings are properly done and we fund it properly. 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: As the Royal Commission gave some suggestions, I see the 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: current government is because of fiscal constraint clowing back on 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: some of them. I just want them to have a 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: look at it because it's national security at stake. Secondly, 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: we are saying, you know, there's no coincidence that you know, 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: now we've got all this talk about the Associated minister 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: reintroducing the ministry style saving automatic weapon. Well, this actually 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: relates to that. As you know, I want to come 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: back to that. 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: I want to come back to that. I'll do just 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: quickly on this. What does your gut tell you? Is 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: this a crackpot or is a loan actor like an 53 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: actual terrorist? 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: Look, put it this way. I don't go with guts 55 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: because it's people's lives fifteen much. For us, we rely 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, I've got to be very careful and 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: for us the community is very careful as well. We 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: take this very seriously. 59 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: You know, do the police know who this is? 60 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: We don't know. Police is keeping us informed. They're tracking 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: and tracing and they do a very good job for 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: our pastic experience for it that way. And I talked 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: to one of the principles and it says the first 64 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: time that received something, so you know, it so serious. 65 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: So when I was talking to police, you know, they 66 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: are taking it very seriously. They are looking into this. 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: You know, this kind of bomb threats and other threats 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: are quite common, you know, and they take each one 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: very seriously, and we particularly take it seriously. You're right. 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Listen, the Herald is reporting this. The video featured a 71 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: man showing guns in the car and randomly shooting. Is 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: that accurate. 73 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Yes, it is accurate what they're saying. And that's all 74 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I can say. I mean, the Herald's already reported. Look, 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: I know from my experience and these kind of things. 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: And when I say my experience going on marching team, 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: we really totally will be guided by the police and 78 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: they will give the information because they really need to 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: do a track and trace. 80 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah on this, did you did? I was watching the 81 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: news last night or perhaps the night before, I can't remember, 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: and there was a report about Nicole McKee going to 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: a meet and she, apparently, according to Thomas made at 84 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: One News, wasn't wearing a head scarf. Was that a problem? 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Look, it's a christ just matter. I don't want to 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: get into of it. I mean, as far as we 87 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: are concerned, Uh, it's you know, the people they go 88 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: to the mosque, their respect. We accept them for who 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: they are. You know, some people have some people haven't 90 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: in the past, but you know, it's a sign of respect. 91 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: It's Twice's not the major issue. The major issue is 92 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: the guns. All these are side issues for us is 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: the is the discussion and the debate on the semi 94 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: autograd when the registry and all that and those kind 95 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: of issues. Cool. 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: Abdulla listen. I always appreciate your time. Thank you so much. 97 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: Abdour resarct the Federation, well, I was going to say 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: that again. 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