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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge, shit havever you turn from? David Seymour Today,

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Speaker 1: after writing an impassioned letter back to the UN over

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Speaker 1: the weekend defending the Regulatory Standards Bill, the Minister has

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Speaker 1: been reigned in by the Prime Minister and reminded basically

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Speaker 1: whose boss as in the Foreign Minister.

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Speaker 2: Winston Peters, as our Minister Foreign Affairs, he holds the

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Speaker 2: relationship with the United Nations. He will have a comprehensive

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Speaker 2: reply in due course with the United Nations that the letter.

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Speaker 2: I think all of us in government can read the

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Speaker 2: letter and say, hey, it's total bunkum.

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Speaker 1: Turns out Winston Peters asked David for a meeting on

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Speaker 1: the whole thing yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well, I went to find out.

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Speaker 3: I had to talk with David about who is responsible,

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Speaker 3: how it works, and this is a matter of experience

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Speaker 3: here it's called a parmacy.

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Speaker 1: Davin't seen what is the Deputy Prime Minister with me tonight?

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Speaker 1: Home Minister, Hey, Ryan, how are you doing good? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Did Winston just tell reporters you're the inexperienced one or

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Speaker 1: are we reading Are we reading into this too much?

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Speaker 3: I think everyone's reading far too much into it. There's

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Speaker 3: lots of people in the media, and I'm sad to

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Speaker 3: count you among them that seem to have a fantasy

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Speaker 3: that this is some huge conflict that I've been rained

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Speaker 3: in and making a U turn. Lets be very clear,

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Speaker 3: I absolutely stand by the letter. In fact, what I'm

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Speaker 3: hearing from people is actually they love the letter and

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Speaker 3: kind of would love to say that to the UN.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the practicalities of it, I was under

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Speaker 3: the impression that we should reply to the parts of

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Speaker 3: the letter that related to our particular responsibilities in my

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Speaker 3: case regulation. Winston came and said, look, really I need

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Speaker 3: to respond on behalf of the government, myself as the

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Speaker 3: Minister of Foreign Affairs. I said that's absolutely fine, and

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Speaker 3: subsequently caught up with course, who I think is fair

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Speaker 3: to say loves the letter too. He said that what

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Speaker 3: the UN wrote was buncom but it's just a matter

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Speaker 3: of who replies and what sequence and out. I'm a

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Speaker 3: bit too efficient to answering my correspondence.

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Speaker 1: So there's no You say, there's no U tune, But

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Speaker 1: did you unsend the letter?

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Speaker 3: Well, I will, But in terms of what the messages,

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Speaker 3: the same message is going out. It's just a matter

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Speaker 3: of formating.

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Speaker 1: Who's sending it. But so how do you undersend a letter?

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Speaker 3: Well, I still got to work that out. Of course,

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Speaker 3: I just got it. I got a check that I'll

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Speaker 3: probably have to go through Winston because you know, he

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Speaker 3: probably doesn't want me to write direct to the U N. Again,

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Speaker 3: I think that would probably miss the whole point of

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Speaker 3: the exercise. So look, I've sought that out. But the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, everyone in our governments

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Speaker 3: united on one thing that what the UN wrote to

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Speaker 3: us was well what a what did Chris A bunkhem?

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Speaker 3: And we got to send a response. And I said

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Speaker 3: to Winston, look, I don't mind pulling my letter back

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Speaker 3: as long as the one you eventually write makes the

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Speaker 3: same points. And he said to me, you won't be disappointed.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to seeing that.

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Speaker 1: You all agree on the substance of it. It's just

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Speaker 1: about who's pushing the button, who's hitting Zeen.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and there's and there's one other thing that

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Speaker 3: bear in mind that you know, the UN letter actually

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Speaker 3: targeted about five different ministers, so he wants to get

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Speaker 3: together everybody's and put it in one response, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: And the coalition agreement between New Zealand first and Nationals.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anyway, it was quite wide ranging, very quickly.

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Speaker 1: While we've got you Lux and the Prime Ministration say

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Speaker 1: said yesterday he thinks the idea of a regulatory standards

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Speaker 1: bill is good. He said, ah, regulatory standards bill and

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Speaker 1: talked about improvements. You know, would be silly not to

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Speaker 1: make the changes. He doesn't seem totally convinced of the bill.

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Speaker 1: What exactly have you guys agreed to. Is that is

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Speaker 1: the bill as you want it? Or is it the

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Speaker 1: bill as it ends up?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the bill as I would like to see it,

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Speaker 3: because this is the commitment from the other two parties

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Speaker 3: to act. There's things that those guys want to do

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Speaker 3: that we support. If we're honest, we probably all come

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Speaker 3: to the government were slightly different views. X thinks that

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Speaker 3: the biggest basic problem we have in this country is

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Speaker 3: too much red tape and regulation. That's why it's hard

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Speaker 3: to build your supermarket, it's hard to build homes, hard

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Speaker 3: to open a bank account. I mean, it all comes

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Speaker 3: back to too much red tape. At the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, it pushes up the cost of everything. So

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Speaker 3: so it's fair to say this is that this is

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Speaker 3: our drive but ultimately and are committed to in the

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Speaker 3: agreement the Regulatory Standards Bill, but of course you know

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Speaker 3: we we we there will be changes. There's changes to

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Speaker 3: every bill that's ever been through Parliament and history, but

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Speaker 3: we're pretty clear that there's some core principles that need

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Speaker 3: to be there to get strong.

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Speaker 1: You're going to bring the government down over.

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Speaker 3: It, well, I can't imagine that they would reneg on

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Speaker 3: the deal and make that necessary. So I can't. I

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Speaker 3: can't see them putting them in that position. Every other

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Speaker 3: coalition commitment to date has been kept and I would

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Speaker 3: expect that. You know what that brings to the table

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Speaker 3: is we've got to get serious about regulation in this country.

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Speaker 3: We're going to solve other problems and you know that's

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Speaker 3: that's what we expect our partners to be serious about too.

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Speaker 1: David Act, Leader, Minister of Regulation, Deputy Prime Minister.

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