1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Murriold's Assie correspondents with us. Now he mus very good afternoon, Heather. Okay, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: how's this going down? The plan to build the seven 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: new nuclear. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Plants, Well, no surprise when I tell you that it 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: depends which way you vote. Over here, Coalition supporters, those 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: who like Peter Dutton are propping Labor fans are saying 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: it's absolute nonsense what Dutton is proposing. Basically, the climate 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: wars are back on over here at big, big time, 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: and the opposition, Heather is gambling that have promised to 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: bring a nuclear power to this country will win enough 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: support to kick labor out of opposite the next election. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's promising seven nuclear power plants at seven different 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: sites around Australia. Two he says will be operational in 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: eleven years if the Coalition gets up next year at 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: the election. He's promising to provide admissions free base load power, 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: which of course is a critical part of Australia's energy mix. 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Large scale reactors for New South Wales, Queenslander Notorious, smaller 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: units for South Australia and Western Australia, all to be 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: government owned. Okay, so good, so far, as I say, 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: coalition fans are saying new beauty, but what the critics 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: are saying is, wow, it's going to be well for 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: a start off. Can you give us some costings. Who's 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: going to fund this? Well, the government and taxpayers will 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: own it. Who's going to build and design it? The 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: only ones getting built and design around the world right 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: now are being built and designed by Russia and China. 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: He's promising more detailed costings after the next election, will 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: lab us you know rightly saying well, hang on, how 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: on earth can we back this kind of bit vague 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 2: promise and how much are we going to be up for? 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: And the experts, the science, the science leaders have here 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: are saying nuclear power head that will simply be massively 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: more expensive than renewables. So again, the climate wars are 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: on and we're all. 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Most or a fort explaim something to me though, because 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: if it's falling largely down political lines, right, so if 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you vote right, you're going to love it, and if you 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: vote lifting it shouldn't people who vote left actually be 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: on board with this because your alliance is a country 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: on coal is way too high and anything to help 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the climate would be a good thing for a left 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: wing voter, wouldn't. 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: It, Well, yes it would, but to the extent that 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: we need to know how much we're going to be 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: paying for this very expensive nuclear option. Peter Dutton is 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: look the citiusirose as our premiere scientific organization in Australia. 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: The best scientific brains in the country have said, listen, 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: this will not be on time. It'll be way beyond 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: twenty forty when the first powers coming off the grid 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: and atomic energy plant. We have no idea how much 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: it's going to cost, who's going to design and build it. 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: There's just all often the never never, And it's basically 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: splitting down this ideological line. The National Party hates renewables, 54 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: said bugger Off. We want to keep digging out coal 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: and farting cows and all the rest of it. And 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton is trying to exploit the political prism, the 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: divide that exists in Australia. He's trying to exploit that 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: to win office. And fair enough, I mean, go your hardest, 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: feed a dub but a lot of people aren't buying it. 60 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: And I understand what you're saying about the left. Anything 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: to drive down a mission shore, but at what cost 62 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: and how long, that's the big questions. 63 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Well, that is an argument that I would share with 64 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: the left. At what cost and how long? Hey, what 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: happened with this road rage incident in Sydney. How do 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: you go from being angry at someone to mowing them down? 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: Well, exactly, and there's a whole bunch of different questions 68 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: being asked. The young guy twenty seven years old, he 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: was hit and run this morning, died at the scene 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: in western Sydney. The police trying to find the driver. 71 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Victim wearing high vis clothing. Road very very busy. Parents 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: were dropping children off at school, very nearby the shopping 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: center as well. Some suggestion it was a ranging road 74 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: rage incident based on witnesses who said, ge whiz, this 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: guy was driving away in one thousand miles an hour. 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Very good description of the ute involved and now an 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: appeal of course dash and footage. Mars. 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate your time. As always, look 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: after yourself. We'll talk to you next week. That's Murray 80 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Old's Australia correspondent. 81 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 82 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: news talks it'd b from four pm weekdays, or follow 83 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio,