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Speaker 1: So it had a touch of the Turkish peace talks.

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Speaker 1: I thought about it, didn't. I mean, a lot of

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Speaker 1: build up to the big day, the big event, only

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Speaker 1: for the government to go for the adjournment on the

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Speaker 1: privileges debate around the Mary Party. So we're back to

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Speaker 1: at June five, tomorrow Fortnight Privileges Committee cheer. Judith Collins

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Speaker 1: is with us. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: A couple of new things, if you wouldn't mind. Chris

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Speaker 1: Hopkins suggested you said uncivilized behavior from indigenous people.

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Speaker 2: Did you No, absolutely not. I think he was referring

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Speaker 2: to my interview with you last Tuesday when I said

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Speaker 2: there is a lack of stability now and it's not acceptable.

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Speaker 2: It's entirely wrong for Hipkins to have done that, and

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Speaker 2: I've called on him to apologize, and apparently he's going

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Speaker 2: to think about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, he owes you an apology because if you didn't

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Speaker 1: say it, you didn't say it, and he suggested you did.

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Speaker 1: He started walking it back, saying you'd heard about it

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Speaker 1: in the media, et cetera. So he's got that wrong, right.

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Speaker 2: He has absolutely got it wrong.

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Speaker 1: Palm Jeet Palmer, who's the act member of the committee

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Speaker 1: is the one who wanted in prison time or to

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Speaker 1: investigate the possibility of prison time. Does that make it

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Speaker 1: political from the committee's point of view, or was she

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Speaker 1: genuinely looking for context as to what the Privileges Committee

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Speaker 1: can potentially do.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know that people were genuinely looking right across

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Speaker 2: the borders all the options, and there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 2: asking what are the options? Because from her point of view,

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Speaker 2: I think she's just saying, well, I've heard that these

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Speaker 2: are some of the things. Why you know, on what

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Speaker 2: basis would that be possible? But also what are the

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Speaker 2: old range of options? There's nothing wrong with look at

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Speaker 2: the options. The problem is, of course, is that married

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Speaker 2: party wouldn't apologize, wouldn't you only married partyship, So it's

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Speaker 2: only three of them, wouldn't do anything, wouldn't meet us

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Speaker 2: at all. And of course their behavior those three in

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Speaker 2: Pas in particular, was so bad that day that certainly

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Speaker 2: I've never seen it before. Winston never seen it before,

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Speaker 2: no one's seen it before.

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Speaker 1: I thought. I thought Hipkins made a reasonable fist of

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Speaker 1: the debate yesterday after your opening, with the exception that

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Speaker 1: the examples he gave of people beating each other up

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Speaker 1: in the lobbies and tractors being driven up the steps.

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Speaker 1: None of it's happened on the floor of Parliament. Interrupting

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Speaker 1: a vote in a business of the day, has it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, No, it has not. And I think you know

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Speaker 2: Hipkins are showing that he likes to talk. Actually, the

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Speaker 2: other examples he gave was Julian Genta, and Juliane Genta

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Speaker 2: did not do anything at all as egregious as what

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Speaker 2: happened that day. She didn't interrupt the vote, Telly, she didn't.

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Speaker 2: She didn't actually threaten people with the with a gun

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Speaker 2: sign and she you know, there's lots of it. And

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Speaker 2: also she very quickly apologized and she showed contrition when

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Speaker 2: this was an entirely different situation. So there was obviously

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Speaker 2: always attempts on the committee to compromise. And but you

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Speaker 2: saw what Pipkins was offering yesterday, which was one day

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Speaker 2: suspension for wait Tea and one day you can't.

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Speaker 1: Work it out what you don't want to be within

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Speaker 1: a million miles of the Marray party. Why why is

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Speaker 1: he playing boot lawyer?

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Speaker 2: Well, I presume he thinks that that's that's who you'll

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Speaker 2: go into business with. Should he get an opportunity of

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Speaker 2: being government. I mean that's there's also, of course the

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Speaker 2: very close relationship with Woody Jackson and John timmer Herry

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Speaker 2: who was the president of the Murray Party.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it, okay, completely out of left field

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Speaker 1: and just for the fun of it. I note in

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Speaker 1: your pecuniary list of gifts you you've got a chairman's

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Speaker 1: lounge pass for Quantas. Is it worth it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've been able to use once and it is.

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Speaker 2: Actually it's quite nice. Yeah, good, you.

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Speaker 1: Can have to talk to you appreciate Judith Collins. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go through the list throughout the morning, but

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Speaker 1: she got a chairman's lane parts of the Quantus Quantus

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Speaker 1: chairman's lounge apparently is likely placed to be and very

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