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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, yeah, it's good to be back. Actually, I mean,

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Speaker 2: when you're away for three weeks, you're looking forward to home,

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Speaker 2: and was certainly where got back on Friday.

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Speaker 1: So I got a little excited when I thought that

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Speaker 1: you were following the All Blacks right through the Northern tour.

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Speaker 1: You went to Chicago with them, and then you spent

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Speaker 1: the rest of the time in the US survey. What'd

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Speaker 1: you get up to? What were some of the highlights?

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Speaker 2: Oh, we stayed in We stayed in Chicago, which is

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Speaker 2: a great city, for a few for a few extra days.

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Speaker 2: Then shot down to Nashville, music city, as you know

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Speaker 2: count Yeah, absolutely, but I mean it's music city. It's

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Speaker 2: not all country music, but nevertheless it's mainly that. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I loved it, and then went on to Washington. I've

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Speaker 2: never been there before. Look forward to that, But unfortunately

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Speaker 2: there was a government shut down on so a lot

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Speaker 2: of the things you'd normally go to and Washington were closed,

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Speaker 2: But still managed to cover a bit of ground. Where

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Speaker 2: to Gettrisburg, where I love the American Civil War stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I went there and found out where Lincoln made

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Speaker 2: his great speech et cetera, et cetera, and then finished

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Speaker 2: up in New York for a week.

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Speaker 1: I too, was very impressed with Washington, d C. And

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Speaker 1: that Central mall where can just be in the whole

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Speaker 1: day walking, you know, the open grass, and no one

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Speaker 1: does memorials quite like the States, and there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: them to be explored along that strip too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And one of the highlights actually, and it's

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Speaker 2: a bit morbid to say this, one of the highlights

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Speaker 2: was going to Arlington National Cemetery, which is, you know,

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Speaker 2: right pretty much in the heart of Washington, four hundred

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Speaker 2: acres before they do their cemetry as well too, with

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Speaker 2: some great people obviously buried there, any two presidents they

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Speaker 2: believe it or not. But that was a highlight as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really confronting. Did you get to the Pentagon and

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Speaker 1: I think just beside that there's the memorial for the

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Speaker 1: for the nine to eleven attacks.

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Speaker 2: Look, you certainly went to the nine to eleven. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's pretty much in New York, isn't it. But

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Speaker 2: it's all the Peddagon didn't go there because the shutdown

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Speaker 2: was on. Went to the White House, gave Donald a ring,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't available for a bit unfortunately then mine.

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Speaker 1: What a shame for him his loss. You didn't get

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Speaker 1: caught in any travel dramas, because you know, all we

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Speaker 1: heard from here is, you know, the airports and the

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Speaker 1: security lines.

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Speaker 2: We were worried about that, but they called they called

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Speaker 2: the government strike off just in time, really, and we

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Speaker 2: survived all that. But it certainly was pretty disruptive, I

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Speaker 2: be it.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned you got back on Friday. Did you

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Speaker 1: manage to catch any sport over the weekends? The yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw.

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Speaker 2: A little bit here and there. I got up at

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Speaker 2: sort of half past five and yesterday morning and watched

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Speaker 2: the second half of the All Blacks not a bad

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Speaker 2: way to finish, but I mean it's all taken in context, really.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Wales were horrible, although they must have been

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Speaker 2: pretty good in the first half. But you know, we

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Speaker 2: we know that their recorders I think that went too

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Speaker 2: in twenty two or whatever, so we shouldn't really be

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Speaker 2: getting too carried away with what happened there. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: the wins the win. You've got to take it, I guess.

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Speaker 2: But now they'll be thinking about season ending inquiries as

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Speaker 2: to how the All Blacks went three losses from their

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Speaker 2: thirteen games. Still not acceptable, really still not acceptable. Four

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Speaker 2: losses last year, so seven in twenty seven for a razor,

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Speaker 2: I think they've got a favorit of thinking to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're on Papy, you think the teen from

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Speaker 1: thirteen isn't so bad. But I just feel a little

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Speaker 1: uninspired by the side. I mean, yes, there's been moments

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Speaker 1: of brilliance, but the whole year it's been a little

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Speaker 1: leckluster and going into most games can't help but think,

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Speaker 1: have we actually got this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've made some great starts, but we've sort of

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Speaker 2: faded away. But I don't know what the reason for

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Speaker 2: that is. I really don't, and I'm sure there'll be

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Speaker 2: a lot of inquiries. And it can't be a fitness thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean that as full as anything. You'd have to

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Speaker 2: question some of the decision making, I suppose. But now

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Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting to see what the

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Speaker 2: wash up is because of course things get a bit

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Speaker 2: serious now because there are only two years out from

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Speaker 2: a World Cup, and that's pretty much what we base

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Speaker 2: our thinking on. It's a four year cycle these days,

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Speaker 2: building up to the next World Cup, and that's only

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Speaker 2: two years away, which is a bit scary to think

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Speaker 2: about now,