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Speaker 1: Look after Albow's MASSI have went across the ditch on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I can see a lot of commentators attempted to blame

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Speaker 1: this on trump Ism in the same way that they

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Speaker 1: blame the election, the Canadian election upset on trumpsm But

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that they're right, at least not in

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Speaker 1: the way that they think they are. So what these

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Speaker 1: commentators are saying is that Trump has given Canadian and

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Speaker 1: Australians the ick so badly that they are voting against

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Speaker 1: anything that looks like Donald Trump, whether it's Dutton in

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Speaker 1: Australia or Polliev in Canada, or just right wingism in general.

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Speaker 1: People hate Trump so much anything that even resembles him

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Speaker 1: gets the big No. Now, I don't think that is

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Speaker 1: what's happened. That's what's happened here, because have a look

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Speaker 1: at what's happening in New Zealand at the moment. The

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Speaker 1: two parties in our parliamentary system that would probably share

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Speaker 1: the greatest number of policy positions with Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: New Zealand First and Act, and both of these parties

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Speaker 1: are polling much higher than they historically have, like considerably

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Speaker 1: higher than they historically have. Also, those commentators seem to

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Speaker 1: be conveniently forgetting what just happened in the UK on

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Speaker 1: Friday night, which is that the Reform part Party absolutely

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Speaker 1: swept the local elections in a shock result. Now Reformers

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Speaker 1: led by Nigel Faraj, and I think it's probably the

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Speaker 1: closest thing to Trump in the English speaking world. So

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Speaker 1: as much as the left would like to believe that

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Speaker 1: what happened in Australia and Canada is a Trump eck

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Speaker 1: factor that they can pin on the rest of the right,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I think what's happened is

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Speaker 1: the same thing that happened during COVID, which is that

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Speaker 1: we've just seen some safe voting take place. I think

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Speaker 1: Trump and his tariff talk and the possibility of a

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Speaker 1: massive global slowdown has freaked out voters in a similar

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Speaker 1: way to how COVID freaked people out. And when people

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Speaker 1: freak out, it favors the incumbent because it's better the devil,

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Speaker 1: you know, right when it comes to protecting you. And

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Speaker 1: that's why the Canadians returned their incumbent government. It is

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Speaker 1: why the Australians returned their incumbent government. Now the same

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Speaker 1: doesn't apply to the UK, where reform did really well,

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Speaker 1: because that was a local body election system, which is

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Speaker 1: about rubbish and roads. It's not central government, which is

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Speaker 1: about tariff's and healthcare. So I suspect that we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: over egg how much voters hate Trump as much as

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