1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Major weekend of democracy, from the local vote in the 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: UK of course, to Singapore and of course Australia, where 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: the government fired expectations to some degree at least by 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: not just winning but storming home in and doing so, 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: not just getting a second term, but decimating the opposition 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: who now have to not just pick up the pieces 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: but find themselves a new leader. It's Goy News Australia's 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Laura Jays is back with this us. Laura, very good 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: morning to you, Good morning. Thoroughly enjoyed the coverage on 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Saturday night. The majority, I think the majority was a chance, 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: but so was a minority. How big a shock was 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: what actually happened. 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Well, none of the polls picked up, not even the 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: internal polling of the Labor Party picked it up. So 15 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: it was a shock to everyone. I mean, the best 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: case scenario going in were kind of talking about Labor 17 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: having high seventies, a good night for Labor going in 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: was going to be eighty seats and the Liberal Party 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: was still talking about picking up somewhere between five and ten. 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: And look where we're at exactly the Greens, I note 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: this morning have one is that about as good as 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: because yesterday they had none. Is one as good as 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: it gets? 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, one is probably as good as it gets. I 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: mean it's interesting because that have increased their primary votes slightly, 26 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: but that's not how our parliamentary system works, so it's 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: not the rules of the game. So I mean one. 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean, if Adam bad was to lose his seat, 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: Labor would see that as well. The whole Parliament would 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: see that as a big win, I think, But that 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: one Max Chandel may them so that he's the Green 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: that's lost his seat. He held that by ten point 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: five percent in Queensland in Griffith, and that was Kevin 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: Run's old seat, so that was a real grudge match 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: for Anthony Alberezi, so to get that back was pretty 36 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: sweet for him. 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: I run through the names, Angus Taylor, Andrew Hasty, Dante 38 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: and Susan Lay. Are these obvious names to replace? Dun't know? 39 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: We just don't know, I mean the most obvious. 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: But the hard truth for the Liberal Party is you 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: look at those names and they don't scream leaders, none 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: of them. The fact that they have to turn their 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: attention to one of those full names is really an 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: indictment on the party and where they're at right now. 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: I mean Angus Taylor. He's a good performer, he's the 46 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Shadow Treasurer, but he's tied to Pitter Dutton and this 47 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: loss Labor Party. People saying to me all throughout the 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: campaign you only ever get one Angus Taylor, and that 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: was said in a disparaging way. Susan Lay. I mean 50 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 2: she's had to say from pre selection three times she's 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: a woman in the mix. But honestly, I don't think 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: that would be a good direction for the Liberal Party 53 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: to go. Andrew Hasty such an impressive young person. I 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: mean he's former sas soldiers. He is brilliant, but he 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: has not been in there fighting for the Liberal Party 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: in a political sense. There's a view that he's tried 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: to keep his powder dry and he holds a w 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: on his seat. I mean, with the decimation on the 59 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: East close, can you really go with a WA leader? 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: And that leads you with Danteen. He's really a nice guy, 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: really impressive. He's had to fight off this independent in 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: his seat of one on the outer edges of Melbourne, 63 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: so I think he's probably he would be my pick, 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: but I think any leader that you're going to get 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: in the Liberal Party now is just an interim leader. 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: They're not going to be there to fight the next election. 67 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: They need to really dig in, find some talent and 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: start pre selecting some good people. The problem is they 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: can't find young people or women to vote for them 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: or run for them over join the party. 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: What risk he did so well elbow other side of 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: the fence that it all goes to his head and 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: their head and they blow. 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: It, absolutely mate, I mean, that's the biggest reskuse it. 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: We saw that with John Howard and work Choices we 76 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: had control of the House and the Senate. Now that's 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: not the same scenario here. But hubris is always always big, 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: big risk here, and there is a chance at the 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: Labor Party try to overreach. I mean, I asked slightly 80 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: said about this yesterday. A strong government is when you 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: have a strong opposition or we don't have that. We 82 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: don't have a strong opposition. We have a very strong 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: cross bench in the Teals, So I think the Teals 84 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: need to step up play a bigger role even though 85 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: they don't have the balance of power. I mean there's 86 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: things like negative gearing. We know that Labor in their 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: heart and hearts want to touch it out without a mandate. 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: I think it would be poisonous, but you know, they 89 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: might just try it, but we will see. 90 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure lawyer, I appreciate getting up in the 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: early hours of the morning. Laura Jay's out of the 92 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: Sky news for us this morning. For more from the 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks it'd be 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.