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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from US talks ed by doing up the house, it's

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Speaker 2: House sizzle, even when there's goals, even when you go

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Speaker 4: Has even when we'll be even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 5: And a very very good morning and welcome to the

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Speaker 5: Resident Builder on Sunday, your me Pete wolf Camp right

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Speaker 5: through till nine o'clock this morning, talking all things building construction.

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Speaker 5: We can talk about the regulations, we can talk about

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Speaker 5: the actual products, we can talk about some of the

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Speaker 5: new ideas that are out there. We can talk about

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Speaker 5: some of the challenges of sort of managing expectation and budget.

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Speaker 5: You know, how do you Okay, I'd like to do this,

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Speaker 5: but I've got an X amount of money to do

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Speaker 5: that project. How am I going to optimize? I guess

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Speaker 5: the funds that I have. That's partly off the back

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Speaker 5: of a number of conversations I had yesterday at the

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Speaker 5: Home and Garden show on in Dunedin at the moment,

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Speaker 5: so I was down in Dunedin for a couple of

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Speaker 5: book these little slots. Actually, as it happened, you could

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Speaker 5: come along with your plans or your ideas, and so

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Speaker 5: we're talking about, you know, rejigging entrance ways or doing

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Speaker 5: some landscaping or some of the other things. Oh, re

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Speaker 5: orientating the house, these sorts of things. And there's always

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Speaker 5: that challenge, isn't there If we sit down and we go, okay,

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Speaker 5: this is what I intend to do with my project.

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Speaker 5: I want to change the layout. Let's say you might

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Speaker 5: have a laundry and a bathroom and then a separate

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Speaker 5: toilet next to it, and it's all in the same space,

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Speaker 5: but the way in which it's orientated, in the way

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Speaker 5: in which it's laid out, isn't particularly you, so can

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Speaker 5: I knock through that wall, perhaps bring these two things together,

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Speaker 5: make that separate, add a new doorway to it, all

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Speaker 5: within the existing building envelope. Still might require building consents,

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Speaker 5: but it's a more useful use of the space that

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Speaker 5: we have, and it's a big part of design, isn't

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Speaker 5: it as making the most of the space that we have.

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Speaker 5: So all of these things we can talk about, there's

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Speaker 5: also legislation. There's the rules and regulations that govern what

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Speaker 5: you can do when you can do it. I ended

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Speaker 5: up spending a little bit of time this week having

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Speaker 5: a look at what exactly triggers the requirement for a

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Speaker 5: building consent. Also spend a little bit of time, funnily enough,

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Speaker 5: this week trying to figure out whether or not some

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Speaker 5: work that had been completed actually should have had a

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Speaker 5: building consent, and then trying to find the appropriate legislation

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Speaker 5: to back up that point of view. It's all well

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Speaker 5: that I encountered was a letter from a builder to

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Speaker 5: a client saying, here's what we've done. But somewhere in

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Speaker 5: there they didn't say why they thought that this work

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Speaker 5: could be done without a building consent. My own opinion

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Speaker 5: not getting one is potentially going to leave a problem

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Speaker 5: for the existing owner. But when that house goes to sale,

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Speaker 5: it's going to be a bit of a challenge as well.

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Speaker 5: So we can talk about the legislation, we can talk

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Speaker 5: about the materials, we can talk about the tools that

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Speaker 5: you might need, the projects that you've got on. Give

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Speaker 5: me a call right now. We always get a little

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Speaker 5: your opportunity. But we always get busy just before we

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Speaker 5: get to it at around eight thirty this morning, so

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Speaker 5: now is the perfect time to call. Oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 5: I own this small fee for that apparently, And if

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Speaker 5: you'd like to email, I'll get my email sorted out

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Speaker 5: dot co dot NZ. So I trust you've had a

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Speaker 5: there's no rain forecast for Auckland this week. Kind of

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Speaker 5: desperate to get a little bit of rain so we

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Speaker 5: able to store up and transfer from one storage area

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Speaker 5: oh not desperate, pretty keen. Let's say to get a

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Speaker 5: say too? Without being a sanctimonious up at the JAFFA.

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Speaker 5: Dunedin is such a fabulous city. I just so enjoyed

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Speaker 5: my time down there, and I must beget and forgetful

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Speaker 5: on Friday morning on the New Zealand flight which was lovely,

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Speaker 5: and arrived and I'm driving into Eden and I'm looking

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Speaker 5: down at the factories and I'm going.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 5: A Sea Fireplaces have got their factory here in Dunedin.

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Speaker 5: I know this because it's a big part of this story.

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Speaker 5: It's a big part of their identity that these fabulous

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Speaker 5: and I had a wander through the factory, which was fantastic.

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Speaker 5: generous with their time, which was fantastic, and I don't know,

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Speaker 5: a good hour and a half wandering through the factory.

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Speaker 5: It was fantastic. Some lovely people there. Anyway, I'll tell

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Speaker 5: you more about the cfires, and of course I was

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Speaker 5: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Let's get amongst it.

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Speaker 5: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty and Annette, good morning

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Speaker 6: And ned.

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Speaker 7: Oh Hello, Hi, Hi. You know I've got a question

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Speaker 7: about bora treatment. I'm considering getting a company to do

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Speaker 7: extensive over two thousand treatment on our villa in Wellington. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I'm just wondering if you know, you know how effective

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Speaker 7: these treatments are.

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Speaker 5: From my own personal experience, I don't know a lot

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Speaker 5: about it because I've never had someone, apart from you know,

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Speaker 5: doing the occasional borer bomb sort of thing myself, which

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Speaker 5: is a little bit more diy, I've never actually had

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Speaker 5: from time to time. Is that bora are on the

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Speaker 5: wing around September October, which seems to be the ideal

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Speaker 5: time to capture them as they emerge from the timber.

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Speaker 8: But I.

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Speaker 5: Also actually it was a conversation I had with some

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Speaker 5: they had bore a treatment done on the underside of

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Speaker 5: but enough to be a bit concerned about. And I'm

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Speaker 5: guessing that the treatment that you apply, let's say, if

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Speaker 5: you're not trying to capture the live borer is on

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Speaker 5: the surface, that makes it uninhabitable for them going forward,

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Speaker 5: because I guess what you're looking for is something that's

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Speaker 5: going to stay active for a period of time, not

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Speaker 5: just for one cycle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so they are going to spray underneath the house

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Speaker 7: and in the ceiling.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And.

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Speaker 9: Also they bore a whole.

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Speaker 7: The people that the man that's going to do it

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Speaker 7: bore tiny little holes up under the rustic weather board,

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, through the bottom plate yep.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Because well I think it might even be at

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Speaker 7: just the bottom plate, but because there's no dwangs in

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Speaker 7: an old house, this whatever tim bore is, the poison

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Speaker 7: or the as the whatever you'd call it, the pest

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Speaker 7: control stuff can go straight up between what are those

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Speaker 7: uprights that's called in the house. Yep, the stud Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it can go straight up. So you know, I can

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Speaker 7: see there's kinde a bit of work involved. So I

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Speaker 7: guess this is why it's going to cost a couple

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Speaker 7: of thousands. Yeah, but I just hope it's effective. And

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Speaker 7: I've heard that the boor on the wing from Novembers

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Speaker 7: it's a longer period than yeah, short, Sure.

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Speaker 5: I think what it is is there's obviously that time

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Speaker 5: that they emerge and then the time that they're active.

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Speaker 5: Let's say. So yeah, but look, I can we can

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Speaker 5: certainly have a quick chat with rut about it at

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Speaker 5: eight thirty. Look, it sounds like and I guess the

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Speaker 5: other thing to do with all companies. And again this

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Speaker 5: trades people if you don't already have some experience of

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Speaker 5: the company or so on. Is I think it's quite

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Speaker 5: reasonable to say to anyone, any trades person or contractor

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Speaker 5: at least two numbers of clients who you've done work for,

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Speaker 5: let's say, within the last twelve months, and I'd like

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Speaker 5: to give them a call. I don't think that's unreasonable, right. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, if I'm a contractor and someone says to me, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I don't know you, I've found your number online or whatever,

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Speaker 5: you know, if you're not getting that one on one

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Speaker 5: recommendation is to go, can you please give me the

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Speaker 5: name of a client that you've worked with recently and

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Speaker 5: can I give them a call?

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Speaker 7: That's why I'm marringing, because I just didn't know who

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Speaker 7: to ask. I've asked on my local peace you know

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Speaker 7: what that is a social media thing? Had any answers?

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Speaker 9: Really?

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Speaker 5: I think that's the correctly interesting that we've just had

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Speaker 5: a text come through, and you treat the timber once

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Speaker 5: they're on the wing, the damage has already done. The

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Speaker 5: gold standard is timbore, which is the one that.

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Speaker 7: You That's what I said.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So this whoever is text is from has said

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Speaker 5: they're on the right track.

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Speaker 6: Rather than a flat parent's.

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Speaker 5: of that, Paul, take all the this fantastic cool. Oh

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Speaker 5: You and news talksb open line on all things building construction,

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Speaker 8: Yes.

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Speaker 10: We've also got a quote to replace all the cupboards

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Speaker 5: what are they, how are they done? What are they

433
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Speaker 5: made of?

434
00:24:26,375 --> 00:24:34,695
Speaker 10: Timber? Doors? It's got a blue, deep blue colored paint

435
00:24:34,895 --> 00:24:39,455
Speaker 10: on it, so it's it's I preserve, it's sprayed on factory.

436
00:24:41,255 --> 00:24:42,735
Speaker 10: I guess there might be four likeer.

437
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Speaker 5: Doors, right, Okay, well then I'm to be I'm not

438
00:24:49,495 --> 00:24:52,015
Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure why you would object to repainting

439
00:24:52,095 --> 00:24:53,895
Speaker 5: them if they've already been painted.

440
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Speaker 10: Well, they've never well they would have been painted in

441
00:25:00,975 --> 00:25:06,535
Speaker 10: the factory, yes, yeah. So what I could do as

442
00:25:06,615 --> 00:25:09,655
Speaker 10: I could replace the benchtop, which I have to do, yep,

443
00:25:11,495 --> 00:25:14,175
Speaker 10: and then I'm going to get the house internally painted

444
00:25:14,335 --> 00:25:17,495
Speaker 10: the whole lot. Yes, So I could get the painter

445
00:25:17,655 --> 00:25:20,975
Speaker 10: to do the pantry doors and cupboards for me as well.

446
00:25:23,415 --> 00:25:28,975
Speaker 5: There I can understand why. You know, Look, if you

447
00:25:29,135 --> 00:25:31,375
Speaker 5: were to get the painter to do it, and I'm

448
00:25:31,375 --> 00:25:32,895
Speaker 5: sure you've got a good painter and all the rest

449
00:25:32,935 --> 00:25:35,255
Speaker 5: of it, you know, you can only get a certain

450
00:25:35,375 --> 00:25:39,095
Speaker 5: level of finish, right, a certain standard. Whereas, for example,

451
00:25:39,135 --> 00:25:40,935
Speaker 5: if you were to find and there are a couple

452
00:25:40,935 --> 00:25:42,855
Speaker 5: of companies, and I think there's a couple of companies

453
00:25:42,895 --> 00:25:46,815
Speaker 5: that advertise here at ZB around kitchen makeovers, right, so

454
00:25:46,935 --> 00:25:50,775
Speaker 5: they might come and take the doors and draw fronts off,

455
00:25:51,015 --> 00:25:54,415
Speaker 5: take them away, clean them up, respray them, and reinstall them.

456
00:25:54,815 --> 00:25:57,415
Speaker 5: So you'll get sort of a factory finish rather than

457
00:25:57,495 --> 00:26:02,375
Speaker 5: a site finish to them. Another option that I've seen

458
00:26:02,415 --> 00:26:05,975
Speaker 5: people do is you have someone come in take all

459
00:26:06,015 --> 00:26:09,335
Speaker 5: the doors off and make new doors that will fit

460
00:26:09,455 --> 00:26:12,455
Speaker 5: in the existing because you're right, if the carcasses themselves

461
00:26:12,535 --> 00:26:15,975
Speaker 5: are good, right, And we've all seen carcasses where let's

462
00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:19,215
Speaker 5: say the edge of the veneer is starting to swell

463
00:26:19,375 --> 00:26:22,175
Speaker 5: up and the trim is starting to come off, or

464
00:26:22,695 --> 00:26:26,335
Speaker 5: it's got a bit blackened and moldy and that sort

465
00:26:26,335 --> 00:26:29,055
Speaker 5: of thing. But if yours are in reasonable condition, and

466
00:26:29,175 --> 00:26:33,495
Speaker 5: it's the draw fronts and doors that showing signs of age,

467
00:26:33,895 --> 00:26:36,415
Speaker 5: then just replace those along with your bench top.

468
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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I mean, I mean, you know

469
00:26:40,855 --> 00:26:46,255
Speaker 10: in the quote we've got new handles, for example, there's

470
00:26:46,295 --> 00:26:52,615
Speaker 10: nothing wrong handles. I no, yeah, yeah, I was just wondering,

471
00:26:53,415 --> 00:26:55,735
Speaker 10: like I gave them a good washdown yesterday, but I

472
00:26:55,815 --> 00:26:58,575
Speaker 10: can't budge any of the grime. And I think it's

473
00:26:58,695 --> 00:27:01,375
Speaker 10: just wear and tear. It's been twenty five years old,

474
00:27:01,975 --> 00:27:03,095
Speaker 10: it's had its life.

475
00:27:04,375 --> 00:27:04,895
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.

476
00:27:04,975 --> 00:27:05,015
Speaker 8: So.

477
00:27:05,295 --> 00:27:08,895
Speaker 5: Look, there's a couple of companies around that specialize in it,

478
00:27:08,975 --> 00:27:13,615
Speaker 5: and I like, there's always for all the skill in

479
00:27:13,655 --> 00:27:16,095
Speaker 5: the world, there's always going to be a difference between

480
00:27:16,615 --> 00:27:19,575
Speaker 5: the finish you can achieve, let's say, on site for

481
00:27:19,695 --> 00:27:21,655
Speaker 5: doing some of these things, versus what you can do

482
00:27:21,935 --> 00:27:26,375
Speaker 5: off site. And i'd challenge anyone to say you can

483
00:27:26,455 --> 00:27:28,655
Speaker 5: get the same effect on you know, it's just if

484
00:27:28,695 --> 00:27:31,015
Speaker 5: they take the doors off, take them away, you know,

485
00:27:31,215 --> 00:27:34,135
Speaker 5: strip them, clean them, strip them and repaint them in

486
00:27:34,215 --> 00:27:37,095
Speaker 5: a factory setting, you'll get a much better quality job

487
00:27:37,135 --> 00:27:39,055
Speaker 5: and then they can bring them back. Maybe you want

488
00:27:39,095 --> 00:27:41,055
Speaker 5: to keep the handles, Maybe you need the hand The

489
00:27:41,295 --> 00:27:43,535
Speaker 5: handles might be fine in terms of their condition, but

490
00:27:43,935 --> 00:27:47,135
Speaker 5: they might be a bit outdated, right, So trends change

491
00:27:47,215 --> 00:27:51,495
Speaker 5: those sorts of things. My inclination would be to probably

492
00:27:51,615 --> 00:27:54,095
Speaker 5: sub the workout to a company that specialize in it,

493
00:27:55,455 --> 00:27:57,295
Speaker 5: and they might also be able to change some of

494
00:27:57,375 --> 00:28:00,455
Speaker 5: the draw slides over to soft clothes. And there's all

495
00:28:00,535 --> 00:28:03,695
Speaker 5: those other little tweaks, you know, because kitchens, I know,

496
00:28:03,855 --> 00:28:06,735
Speaker 5: because mine's getting onto sort of eighteen years old this

497
00:28:06,895 --> 00:28:09,815
Speaker 5: year as well, and there is stuff that I would

498
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:11,855
Speaker 5: do if it was a if I was installing the

499
00:28:11,935 --> 00:28:15,015
Speaker 5: kitchen today that it just wasn't available eighteen years ago.

500
00:28:15,175 --> 00:28:18,335
Speaker 5: So you could take advantage of some of the new

501
00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:22,055
Speaker 5: technology around kitchens as well. But I'd be really inclined

502
00:28:22,095 --> 00:28:26,095
Speaker 5: to go, hey, get someone in and try and go

503
00:28:26,255 --> 00:28:28,455
Speaker 5: for a factory finish on all of those surfaces.

504
00:28:29,535 --> 00:28:32,015
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, because all I need is a face lift.

505
00:28:32,495 --> 00:28:36,775
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, Yeah exactly. So there's a bunch of companies

506
00:28:36,815 --> 00:28:39,055
Speaker 5: out there, certainly the ones that advertise here at ZB

507
00:28:39,255 --> 00:28:42,455
Speaker 5: is called My Kitchen Makeover, so you could always try

508
00:28:42,535 --> 00:28:44,535
Speaker 5: them as well. All the best, do you, Bruce, have

509
00:28:44,615 --> 00:28:46,655
Speaker 5: a good day. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

510
00:28:46,695 --> 00:28:50,055
Speaker 5: the number to call John. Good morning, Good morning Peak.

511
00:28:50,975 --> 00:28:51,815
Speaker 5: That very well, thank you.

512
00:28:53,015 --> 00:28:55,935
Speaker 12: Well. I want to talk about over regulation Peak and

513
00:28:56,695 --> 00:29:00,095
Speaker 12: it's relevant right through New Zealand. And do you remember

514
00:29:00,175 --> 00:29:03,175
Speaker 12: we were talking about, I think last week some of

515
00:29:03,215 --> 00:29:05,815
Speaker 12: the flood problems that there and all the rest of it.

516
00:29:09,015 --> 00:29:12,575
Speaker 12: I was I'm a member of a committee to do

517
00:29:12,815 --> 00:29:17,135
Speaker 12: with the river down here in Southland, and I've heard

518
00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:23,175
Speaker 12: rumors about that the Environment councils were considering flattening all

519
00:29:23,215 --> 00:29:29,295
Speaker 12: the floodbaks in New Zealand right and yes, now at

520
00:29:29,335 --> 00:29:35,015
Speaker 12: the meeting I did raise that point and I was

521
00:29:35,175 --> 00:29:39,575
Speaker 12: told by the Chairman of the Environment Southland that yes,

522
00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:43,935
Speaker 12: it had been discussed exactly by the environment councils up

523
00:29:44,815 --> 00:29:49,695
Speaker 12: north where there's been significant flooding and damage done. And

524
00:29:50,015 --> 00:29:53,575
Speaker 12: one of the topics around it was that the councilors

525
00:29:53,935 --> 00:29:57,295
Speaker 12: didn't know, if they were going to be held personally

526
00:29:57,855 --> 00:30:02,095
Speaker 12: or legally responsible from the management. And one way of

527
00:30:02,255 --> 00:30:06,575
Speaker 12: trying to protect themselves was supposedly flat normal flood base

528
00:30:08,015 --> 00:30:10,295
Speaker 12: and I thought it was like being in a bloody

529
00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:12,135
Speaker 12: man has to teaparty beyond.

530
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Although you've got to contrast that with a story

531
00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:19,335
Speaker 5: that I had a look at briefly last week around

532
00:30:20,575 --> 00:30:25,375
Speaker 5: you know, proposals for mitigating flood damage in Wairah, which

533
00:30:25,415 --> 00:30:29,375
Speaker 5: got heavily hit in the cyclone Gabriel, where they are

534
00:30:29,415 --> 00:30:31,495
Speaker 5: actually going to remove a number of houses that are

535
00:30:31,495 --> 00:30:33,335
Speaker 5: close to the river, and it seems like they're going

536
00:30:33,375 --> 00:30:36,895
Speaker 5: to install more sort of you know defenses let's say,

537
00:30:37,095 --> 00:30:40,935
Speaker 5: alongside the river. So rather than removing them, they're actually

538
00:30:40,975 --> 00:30:43,575
Speaker 5: adding them. So that doesn't quite tally with you know,

539
00:30:43,695 --> 00:30:47,935
Speaker 5: an overall approach to say, let's remove them. I know,

540
00:30:48,095 --> 00:30:52,575
Speaker 5: for example, in Auckland that there's about I think it's

541
00:30:52,615 --> 00:30:56,375
Speaker 5: almost seven hundred houses that are going to be purchased

542
00:30:56,615 --> 00:31:01,535
Speaker 5: by council because they recognize that, you know, the flooding

543
00:31:01,575 --> 00:31:04,575
Speaker 5: that we've had is likely to reoccur, in which case

544
00:31:04,855 --> 00:31:08,615
Speaker 5: there's no safe space. Let's take that you can habitate

545
00:31:08,735 --> 00:31:13,975
Speaker 5: in that area again, I don't know that that's that's

546
00:31:14,015 --> 00:31:16,295
Speaker 5: happening right now, because you can go online find the

547
00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,935
Speaker 5: list right of the numbers of houses that are going

548
00:31:18,975 --> 00:31:22,455
Speaker 5: to be purchased or bought out combined through government and

549
00:31:22,655 --> 00:31:23,295
Speaker 5: local government.

550
00:31:24,895 --> 00:31:25,095
Speaker 9: Yeah.

551
00:31:25,175 --> 00:31:31,455
Speaker 5: Well, but I think too there is you know, I

552
00:31:31,535 --> 00:31:35,655
Speaker 5: think where we've tried to I suppose intervene more than

553
00:31:35,935 --> 00:31:39,415
Speaker 5: than is warranted in terms of, you know, managing nature

554
00:31:39,535 --> 00:31:42,575
Speaker 5: and so on, some of that's going to get overwhelmed, right,

555
00:31:42,855 --> 00:31:46,495
Speaker 5: And so if flood banks don't work anymore, and we've

556
00:31:46,695 --> 00:31:52,055
Speaker 5: tried to either put housing or agriculture or industry into

557
00:31:52,175 --> 00:31:55,415
Speaker 5: areas where it's just not going to work going forward,

558
00:31:55,815 --> 00:31:59,335
Speaker 5: then maybe removing some of those floodplanks allowing areas to

559
00:31:59,695 --> 00:32:01,615
Speaker 5: I mean, all of the discussion at the moment about

560
00:32:01,735 --> 00:32:04,375
Speaker 5: moving the center of Cumu, you know, a small town

561
00:32:04,535 --> 00:32:08,695
Speaker 5: just northwest of where I am right now that's under

562
00:32:08,815 --> 00:32:12,855
Speaker 5: serious consideration, is that there is no real achievable fix,

563
00:32:13,375 --> 00:32:15,855
Speaker 5: So how about we just move the township.

564
00:32:17,935 --> 00:32:21,615
Speaker 12: Yeah, Like of the other angles that I'm coming from

565
00:32:21,655 --> 00:32:27,695
Speaker 12: this construction background thing is that I'm aware of all

566
00:32:27,735 --> 00:32:30,015
Speaker 12: of those things. And you can say what you're just

567
00:32:30,095 --> 00:32:34,335
Speaker 12: talking about that's really good, But we need to deal

568
00:32:34,415 --> 00:32:38,855
Speaker 12: what between the flood banks. It's more aggressively, if you

569
00:32:38,935 --> 00:32:41,495
Speaker 12: want to use that word. And we've got built up

570
00:32:41,575 --> 00:32:42,295
Speaker 12: to gravel in the.

571
00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:44,255
Speaker 5: River ye discussion too.

572
00:32:44,415 --> 00:32:45,535
Speaker 6: Yeah.

573
00:32:45,815 --> 00:32:50,015
Speaker 12: So look, unless we deal with what's in between the

574
00:32:50,295 --> 00:32:55,535
Speaker 12: flood banks properly, we're never going to fix the problem.

575
00:32:55,735 --> 00:32:58,975
Speaker 12: And I mean we've got to look at rivers where

576
00:32:59,015 --> 00:33:04,295
Speaker 12: they go out into the sea, the estuary opening. Yeah,

577
00:33:04,655 --> 00:33:09,495
Speaker 12: and it's just about regulation. Now there's some good regulation

578
00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:13,095
Speaker 12: and there's some not so good regulation. And you're talking

579
00:33:13,135 --> 00:33:16,215
Speaker 12: about getting consent for doing all sorts of things. And

580
00:33:16,815 --> 00:33:19,135
Speaker 12: we're looking there's going to have to be done, some

581
00:33:19,375 --> 00:33:23,735
Speaker 12: repairs done on the flood banks, and the councils got

582
00:33:23,815 --> 00:33:27,375
Speaker 12: to get resource concerns off their own council to do

583
00:33:27,615 --> 00:33:32,815
Speaker 12: something to fix the floodbank. I really struggle with that, yeah, And.

584
00:33:34,455 --> 00:33:37,655
Speaker 5: I mean the whole reform of the Resource Management Act

585
00:33:37,695 --> 00:33:40,015
Speaker 5: which has been talked about for ages and ages and ages,

586
00:33:40,015 --> 00:33:43,335
Speaker 5: and I think the previous administration somehow managed to make

587
00:33:43,415 --> 00:33:46,535
Speaker 5: some reforms which increase the number of pages rather than

588
00:33:46,615 --> 00:33:49,855
Speaker 5: reduced it. It'll be interesting to see what these guys

589
00:33:49,935 --> 00:33:52,575
Speaker 5: do about it, because I know it's on the agenda

590
00:33:53,295 --> 00:33:55,535
Speaker 5: John appreciate that and look, to be fair, I could

591
00:33:55,535 --> 00:33:57,095
Speaker 5: talk about this for a long time because I do

592
00:33:57,295 --> 00:34:00,495
Speaker 5: actually quite enjoy talking about infrastructure, and you know, we've

593
00:34:00,535 --> 00:34:03,055
Speaker 5: got some real challenges. If you're in Auckland and you're

594
00:34:03,095 --> 00:34:06,055
Speaker 5: one of those, I'm pretty sure it's about seven hundred

595
00:34:06,095 --> 00:34:09,135
Speaker 5: house is across the Auckland Council area that are now

596
00:34:09,255 --> 00:34:11,495
Speaker 5: on a list to be brought out. Some people that

597
00:34:11,615 --> 00:34:14,815
Speaker 5: I know well got a letter pretty much out of

598
00:34:14,855 --> 00:34:17,215
Speaker 5: the blue the other day going hey, we're going to

599
00:34:17,295 --> 00:34:19,975
Speaker 5: make you an offer on your property. So it's real

600
00:34:20,055 --> 00:34:22,655
Speaker 5: and it's happening. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

601
00:34:22,695 --> 00:34:24,895
Speaker 5: the number to call. If you've got a question of

602
00:34:24,935 --> 00:34:27,015
Speaker 5: a DIY nature. You could call us right now. I'll

603
00:34:27,055 --> 00:34:29,335
Speaker 5: take a short break. Me back with Doug after the break.

604
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Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

605
00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:37,735
Speaker 1: builder with peta Wolfcat Call eight Youth Talk.

606
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Speaker 5: V News Talks. It's ten minutes away from seven o'clock. Doug,

607
00:34:42,815 --> 00:34:43,495
Speaker 5: Good morning.

608
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Speaker 11: Morning, Pete.

609
00:34:44,935 --> 00:34:46,095
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, very well, thanks.

610
00:34:46,535 --> 00:34:50,055
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just an easy one for you than the

611
00:34:50,135 --> 00:34:50,855
Speaker 11: previous schooler.

612
00:34:51,135 --> 00:34:53,815
Speaker 5: Sure solving your world's issues here.

613
00:34:54,815 --> 00:34:58,935
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, you were just looking at putting the outdoor

614
00:34:58,975 --> 00:35:02,255
Speaker 11: area on now on the outside from our family area

615
00:35:02,335 --> 00:35:09,655
Speaker 11: which is out there, yep. But the gable goalas that

616
00:35:09,775 --> 00:35:11,535
Speaker 11: sort of stuff. And then we've had a builder come

617
00:35:11,575 --> 00:35:14,215
Speaker 11: around and he said to look at it, and he

618
00:35:14,335 --> 00:35:14,695
Speaker 11: said that.

619
00:35:16,935 --> 00:35:17,375
Speaker 13: Like the.

620
00:35:19,495 --> 00:35:22,655
Speaker 11: Gable types, they've said that we do not need a

621
00:35:23,295 --> 00:35:25,375
Speaker 11: consent in terms of the swim meters.

622
00:35:25,975 --> 00:35:26,175
Speaker 5: Yep.

623
00:35:27,455 --> 00:35:30,775
Speaker 11: But that's even when they're hogging in taking the same

624
00:35:30,895 --> 00:35:36,615
Speaker 11: roofline through the the governers and everything are going to

625
00:35:36,615 --> 00:35:42,495
Speaker 11: be hooked on to the existing down puts. Yes, then

626
00:35:42,495 --> 00:35:44,415
Speaker 11: the builders come around, he said, as soon as you

627
00:35:44,455 --> 00:35:49,055
Speaker 11: open up an envelope on you need a consent.

628
00:35:50,895 --> 00:35:51,495
Speaker 6: Is that correct?

629
00:35:52,335 --> 00:35:57,095
Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah, that's an interesting way. So the other thing

630
00:35:57,215 --> 00:35:59,815
Speaker 5: is the structure that you're adding on, is it going

631
00:35:59,895 --> 00:36:03,535
Speaker 5: to have roofing on it? Yes, then that triggers the

632
00:36:03,575 --> 00:36:08,935
Speaker 5: requirement for consent, right okay as well? So yeah, if

633
00:36:12,615 --> 00:36:16,095
Speaker 5: interesting is comment around, you know, opening up the envelope.

634
00:36:16,535 --> 00:36:20,175
Speaker 5: So if for example, you were going to remove weather

635
00:36:20,255 --> 00:36:24,015
Speaker 5: boards and extend rafters out that sort of thing, then

636
00:36:24,095 --> 00:36:27,495
Speaker 5: I can understand why that impacts on the existing envelope

637
00:36:28,135 --> 00:36:31,455
Speaker 5: and might trigger a requirement for a building consent. I

638
00:36:31,855 --> 00:36:35,015
Speaker 5: don't know that necessarily, you know, like bolting a ribbon plate,

639
00:36:35,135 --> 00:36:39,335
Speaker 5: for example, to the exterior of an existing cladding or

640
00:36:39,535 --> 00:36:43,655
Speaker 5: existing wall necessarily triggers a requirement for a building consent.

641
00:36:43,775 --> 00:36:46,495
Speaker 5: Although you know the other thing, and I'm sure you're

642
00:36:46,495 --> 00:36:48,375
Speaker 5: aware of this, and I'm sure your builders as well,

643
00:36:48,495 --> 00:36:52,255
Speaker 5: that regardless of whether or not work requires a building consent,

644
00:36:52,375 --> 00:36:54,975
Speaker 5: it must be done to the building code. So things

645
00:36:55,135 --> 00:36:59,575
Speaker 5: like span of rafters, span of lintols, fixings, bracing, depth

646
00:36:59,655 --> 00:37:02,215
Speaker 5: of embedment of posts, all of those sorts of things

647
00:37:02,295 --> 00:37:05,415
Speaker 5: still need to be as per the building Code even

648
00:37:05,415 --> 00:37:09,295
Speaker 5: if you don't get a building consent. But my understanding,

649
00:37:09,335 --> 00:37:12,975
Speaker 5: and funnily enough, I was reading through this just the

650
00:37:13,095 --> 00:37:17,215
Speaker 5: other day, is very much around if it's got a

651
00:37:17,295 --> 00:37:20,535
Speaker 5: roof on it, then that typically triggers the requirement for

652
00:37:20,615 --> 00:37:23,495
Speaker 5: building consent. So if it's open rafters, you know it's

653
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:25,895
Speaker 5: it's there for aesthetics, let's say, or maybe a bit

654
00:37:25,935 --> 00:37:28,055
Speaker 5: of shade. Great, as soon as you put a roof

655
00:37:28,135 --> 00:37:29,255
Speaker 5: on it, building consent.

656
00:37:30,335 --> 00:37:32,015
Speaker 11: Yeah, Oh, that's what we're wanting to do, is to

657
00:37:32,215 --> 00:37:36,655
Speaker 11: make it look part of the house. Yeahs you know

658
00:37:37,295 --> 00:37:41,175
Speaker 11: when the eave comes out, yes, on the on.

659
00:37:41,255 --> 00:37:43,935
Speaker 5: The gable, so what type of roofing do you have

660
00:37:43,975 --> 00:37:44,455
Speaker 5: at the moment.

661
00:37:45,735 --> 00:37:47,215
Speaker 11: It's a corrugated iron.

662
00:37:47,255 --> 00:37:51,175
Speaker 5: Okay, so would you look at extending that corrugated iron

663
00:37:51,295 --> 00:37:55,095
Speaker 5: out over this new structure as as solid or as clear.

664
00:37:56,055 --> 00:37:58,535
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're tied on and with the roofing iron, yeah,

665
00:37:58,695 --> 00:38:00,935
Speaker 11: and then maybe the clear underneath.

666
00:38:01,215 --> 00:38:01,935
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.

667
00:38:02,975 --> 00:38:03,175
Speaker 6: Yeah.

668
00:38:03,335 --> 00:38:07,415
Speaker 5: Look, from from what you're starting to describe it, I

669
00:38:07,615 --> 00:38:09,775
Speaker 5: think he's right, you do need a building consent for this.

670
00:38:10,455 --> 00:38:10,655
Speaker 9: Yeah.

671
00:38:11,055 --> 00:38:13,655
Speaker 11: Yeah, because he said, like, obviously we're gonna have like

672
00:38:13,815 --> 00:38:17,815
Speaker 11: more of at anything happens from there, very good point.

673
00:38:19,015 --> 00:38:22,015
Speaker 11: They're tying it into the deck, Maybe we need to

674
00:38:22,095 --> 00:38:28,695
Speaker 11: go down and just faulting onto the deck they would

675
00:38:28,735 --> 00:38:37,935
Speaker 11: have to, Yeah, to be happening just for a aluminium structure,

676
00:38:38,135 --> 00:38:41,575
Speaker 11: I think. But what your point of viewers is actually

677
00:38:41,695 --> 00:38:42,255
Speaker 11: just build on.

678
00:38:43,975 --> 00:38:48,295
Speaker 5: Oh I see, you have those options of buying kit

679
00:38:48,375 --> 00:38:52,335
Speaker 5: sets or something like that because they're not attached to

680
00:38:52,375 --> 00:38:57,575
Speaker 5: the house, and the roofs they open. So some people go, well,

681
00:38:57,615 --> 00:38:59,615
Speaker 5: because I can open it, Therefore it's not the same

682
00:38:59,655 --> 00:39:00,495
Speaker 5: as a solid roof.

683
00:39:03,015 --> 00:39:07,015
Speaker 11: But we're probably he can get a gable aluminiums structure and.

684
00:39:07,095 --> 00:39:08,335
Speaker 5: Then free standing.

685
00:39:09,895 --> 00:39:13,215
Speaker 11: Well, now that's it all. Yeah, it's the same as

686
00:39:13,255 --> 00:39:17,295
Speaker 11: an extension, but the aluminium, oh okay. And then then

687
00:39:17,335 --> 00:39:20,375
Speaker 11: you put your carrigan iron on top and bar oh

688
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:25,295
Speaker 11: okay instead of actually been timber as an addition. That's or.

689
00:39:27,295 --> 00:39:31,655
Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting, I suspect regardless of what you build it

690
00:39:31,695 --> 00:39:33,855
Speaker 5: out of the fact that it's attached to the house

691
00:39:34,015 --> 00:39:36,815
Speaker 5: and it's got a roof on it and it's reasonably tall,

692
00:39:37,215 --> 00:39:40,095
Speaker 5: all of those things would would trigger requirement for building content.

693
00:39:41,975 --> 00:39:44,455
Speaker 5: Good luck with that, mate, all the best, All right,

694
00:39:44,575 --> 00:39:46,495
Speaker 5: take care, all the best to you and Lee. We'll

695
00:39:46,495 --> 00:39:47,575
Speaker 5: see if we can squeak this one.

696
00:39:47,615 --> 00:39:48,175
Speaker 6: And how are you.

697
00:39:49,655 --> 00:39:50,015
Speaker 1: Very good?

698
00:39:50,135 --> 00:39:57,895
Speaker 14: Good morning. We are renovateen nineteen twenties cottage, we think,

699
00:39:57,975 --> 00:40:00,255
Speaker 14: because once again we had canceled ahead of fire.

700
00:40:00,535 --> 00:40:00,735
Speaker 6: Yeah.

701
00:40:00,855 --> 00:40:02,015
Speaker 3: Absolutely yep.

702
00:40:03,455 --> 00:40:07,655
Speaker 14: So the new reelboards seat of gone on. They don't

703
00:40:07,815 --> 00:40:12,175
Speaker 14: always fit flush with the one below it, leaving a

704
00:40:12,295 --> 00:40:16,175
Speaker 14: lovely gap. So we're at the painting stage. Do we

705
00:40:16,295 --> 00:40:19,695
Speaker 14: need to fill the gaps because the paint's trying to

706
00:40:19,815 --> 00:40:21,655
Speaker 14: jump through that gap and making a mess.

707
00:40:21,855 --> 00:40:24,775
Speaker 5: How big is the gap? Like sort of three to

708
00:40:25,135 --> 00:40:27,215
Speaker 5: four mil or one to two mil?

709
00:40:28,775 --> 00:40:31,415
Speaker 14: Uh, And it's probably step three mil.

710
00:40:31,855 --> 00:40:35,975
Speaker 5: In that yeah, and is it only where you've got

711
00:40:36,015 --> 00:40:37,255
Speaker 5: the combination of old and new.

712
00:40:38,415 --> 00:40:43,175
Speaker 14: No, no, new on you as well, right.

713
00:40:43,495 --> 00:40:47,095
Speaker 5: Oh, I wonder whether what the what the builder might

714
00:40:47,135 --> 00:40:49,975
Speaker 5: have done is they've they've got a weatherboard that's a

715
00:40:50,055 --> 00:40:53,855
Speaker 5: regular profile now, but they've set it up to so

716
00:40:54,015 --> 00:40:56,295
Speaker 5: that the spacing is the same as your existing one,

717
00:40:56,335 --> 00:40:58,815
Speaker 5: but the profile means at the bottom of the board

718
00:40:58,935 --> 00:41:03,895
Speaker 5: kicks out a little bit. Look, you can seal it,

719
00:41:04,055 --> 00:41:06,255
Speaker 5: but weather boards move. So what you tend to get

720
00:41:06,335 --> 00:41:10,015
Speaker 5: it is this like you know stretchy effect happening where

721
00:41:11,175 --> 00:41:14,215
Speaker 5: at certain times of the year you'll see that kind

722
00:41:14,255 --> 00:41:17,935
Speaker 5: of opening and pulling apart. No, I don't actually think

723
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:21,775
Speaker 5: there's any harm in adding some celent there, particularly in

724
00:41:21,895 --> 00:41:23,815
Speaker 5: areas where you can see it areas that you don't

725
00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:25,735
Speaker 5: see it. I'd probably leave it alone. I hope that

726
00:41:25,815 --> 00:41:27,935
Speaker 5: helps leap all the best back after news and sport,

727
00:41:28,255 --> 00:41:29,495
Speaker 5: top of the r at seven.

728
00:41:29,815 --> 00:41:33,535
Speaker 1: Measure twice God once, but maybe call Pete first, feed

729
00:41:33,575 --> 00:41:36,055
Speaker 1: you walfcaf the resident builder News Talks.

730
00:41:36,055 --> 00:41:38,935
Speaker 5: He'd be news Talks, he'd be welcome back to the show. Oh,

731
00:41:38,975 --> 00:41:41,535
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, as always is the

732
00:41:41,615 --> 00:41:44,975
Speaker 5: number to call taking your calls right through till eight

733
00:41:44,975 --> 00:41:48,055
Speaker 5: point thirty. We don't have any guests joining us today.

734
00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:53,775
Speaker 5: Sort of working on a couple coming forward, including something

735
00:41:53,815 --> 00:41:57,575
Speaker 5: I've been working on for a little while around hearing protection.

736
00:41:58,975 --> 00:42:01,855
Speaker 5: It turns out it's I've had a few emails this week.

737
00:42:02,335 --> 00:42:06,855
Speaker 5: I think it's next week is Hearing Awareness Week. It's

738
00:42:06,895 --> 00:42:10,015
Speaker 5: a bit of a sort of personal crusade thing for me.

739
00:42:10,335 --> 00:42:13,855
Speaker 5: I have to say, is you know, if you're involved

740
00:42:13,895 --> 00:42:16,415
Speaker 5: in construction like I've been for all of these years,

741
00:42:17,295 --> 00:42:20,655
Speaker 5: or if you're in high noise environments, or if you're

742
00:42:21,335 --> 00:42:25,255
Speaker 5: doing DIY and you're using power tools and they're noisy,

743
00:42:25,335 --> 00:42:29,575
Speaker 5: and most of them are, then I think hearing protection

744
00:42:29,735 --> 00:42:33,135
Speaker 5: is really really important, and it's kind of a pernicious

745
00:42:33,215 --> 00:42:37,135
Speaker 5: thing where and I've even noticed it for myself right So,

746
00:42:38,135 --> 00:42:42,055
Speaker 5: I think my hearing is still pretty good, and I've

747
00:42:42,335 --> 00:42:47,815
Speaker 5: been reasonably diligent about wearing hearing protection when I'm using

748
00:42:47,935 --> 00:42:51,535
Speaker 5: power tools or making lots of noise, and I've always

749
00:42:51,855 --> 00:42:55,975
Speaker 5: opted to invest in quality gear that feels comfortable to wear,

750
00:42:56,295 --> 00:42:58,695
Speaker 5: and so on and so forth. So I think at

751
00:42:58,735 --> 00:43:02,015
Speaker 5: this point in time, after getting close to forty years

752
00:43:02,335 --> 00:43:04,775
Speaker 5: in the area in the sector that my hearing is

753
00:43:04,775 --> 00:43:06,935
Speaker 5: still pretty good. But it's one of those things where

754
00:43:06,935 --> 00:43:10,215
Speaker 5: if you don't use it and your hearing starts to deteriorate,

755
00:43:10,735 --> 00:43:12,695
Speaker 5: then you think that it's not as loud as it

756
00:43:12,815 --> 00:43:15,215
Speaker 5: is because you're already starting to go deaf. And then

757
00:43:15,535 --> 00:43:18,615
Speaker 5: we know now some of these long term impacts. And

758
00:43:18,975 --> 00:43:22,975
Speaker 5: I've always had a lingering doubt around the efficacy of

759
00:43:23,695 --> 00:43:28,335
Speaker 5: noise canceling headphones for hearing protection. Anyway, I've decided that

760
00:43:28,495 --> 00:43:30,735
Speaker 5: my opinion doesn't matter. I'm going to find an expert,

761
00:43:30,815 --> 00:43:32,695
Speaker 5: and I'm on the hunt for an expert right now

762
00:43:32,735 --> 00:43:35,335
Speaker 5: and i think I've found someone, so stand by. We'll

763
00:43:35,375 --> 00:43:37,855
Speaker 5: do some stuff on that. In the same way that

764
00:43:38,295 --> 00:43:41,695
Speaker 5: I'm going to an event tomorrow at One Tree Hill

765
00:43:41,935 --> 00:43:45,575
Speaker 5: College where they've taken an old house that was part

766
00:43:45,615 --> 00:43:48,895
Speaker 5: of the where the eastern bustway along ted Kaar Drive

767
00:43:49,015 --> 00:43:51,655
Speaker 5: is being done. So instead of those houses being demolished,

768
00:43:51,895 --> 00:43:55,095
Speaker 5: some of them have gone been transported in this case

769
00:43:55,415 --> 00:43:59,455
Speaker 5: to the school where students along with trade professionals have

770
00:43:59,655 --> 00:44:02,775
Speaker 5: refurbished the house. That's an introduction into the trades that

771
00:44:03,295 --> 00:44:06,495
Speaker 5: can be experienced by the students at One Tree Hill

772
00:44:06,575 --> 00:44:10,415
Speaker 5: College and I noticed on the guest list that Minister

773
00:44:10,575 --> 00:44:13,775
Speaker 5: Chris Pink, who we've interviewed on the show last year,

774
00:44:14,535 --> 00:44:15,655
Speaker 5: will be there, so I'll have a bit of a

775
00:44:15,735 --> 00:44:18,535
Speaker 5: chat with him, and we're going to set up another

776
00:44:18,615 --> 00:44:20,855
Speaker 5: interview with Chris Pink as well. And then we've got

777
00:44:21,015 --> 00:44:24,815
Speaker 5: I mentioned earlier Ventilation Storm who was with us last year.

778
00:44:24,895 --> 00:44:27,575
Speaker 5: Storm up and from Simmicks is going to join us

779
00:44:27,615 --> 00:44:29,455
Speaker 5: again in the next couple of weeks, so we'll get

780
00:44:29,535 --> 00:44:32,015
Speaker 5: some we'll get some interviews underway, but the hearing one

781
00:44:32,095 --> 00:44:34,455
Speaker 5: will be really really interesting. I'm looking forward to that.

782
00:44:35,055 --> 00:44:37,375
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

783
00:44:37,415 --> 00:44:39,495
Speaker 5: Thanks for your patience, Brian, A very good morning to you.

784
00:44:40,575 --> 00:44:42,455
Speaker 5: Hi there, Hella, very well.

785
00:44:43,295 --> 00:44:43,455
Speaker 12: Hi.

786
00:44:43,615 --> 00:44:46,735
Speaker 8: I've just got a new house being built nextor our

787
00:44:46,815 --> 00:44:49,775
Speaker 8: property and I can see a storm order price that's

788
00:44:49,855 --> 00:44:53,495
Speaker 8: been put in and it's coming down to our property

789
00:44:53,655 --> 00:44:58,575
Speaker 8: and there's no storm order connection, nothing known infrastructure at

790
00:44:58,615 --> 00:45:03,575
Speaker 8: all there. And the year I rung up the Awkwall

791
00:45:03,655 --> 00:45:07,095
Speaker 8: City Council and I'll put it through and they get

792
00:45:07,135 --> 00:45:10,415
Speaker 8: you can put a report through to the building Consents team. Yeah,

793
00:45:10,495 --> 00:45:13,575
Speaker 8: and I've done that, and I just was wondering if

794
00:45:13,815 --> 00:45:15,015
Speaker 8: I'm on the right path or not.

795
00:45:15,615 --> 00:45:19,615
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean the other option, and I know that

796
00:45:19,775 --> 00:45:22,615
Speaker 5: there's not always that easy to do, is to actually

797
00:45:22,655 --> 00:45:24,735
Speaker 5: hop across the fence, talk to the builder or the

798
00:45:24,775 --> 00:45:27,135
Speaker 5: project manager or the developer or the owner of the

799
00:45:27,175 --> 00:45:29,495
Speaker 5: property and go, hey, what's your plan here?

800
00:45:30,455 --> 00:45:30,655
Speaker 6: Yeah?

801
00:45:30,655 --> 00:45:33,335
Speaker 8: I know, it just it just looks awfully sneaky. It's

802
00:45:33,375 --> 00:45:35,295
Speaker 8: like I'm the only one that can see it, right.

803
00:45:35,495 --> 00:45:37,815
Speaker 8: It's because I'm not looking over the fence and or

804
00:45:37,935 --> 00:45:41,815
Speaker 8: Parke's been buried, everything's been displaced, the big open one

805
00:45:41,855 --> 00:45:44,695
Speaker 8: hundred and mill pipe, and I'm thinking when that Bruce

806
00:45:44,815 --> 00:45:47,095
Speaker 8: goes on, I know it's going to happen. Yeah, absolutely,

807
00:45:47,255 --> 00:45:52,615
Speaker 8: fly yeah, yeah, And I just just wonder whether it's

808
00:45:52,935 --> 00:45:54,655
Speaker 8: probably best to go straight to the top.

809
00:45:54,975 --> 00:45:57,295
Speaker 5: Look, I think you're doing the right thing. I would

810
00:45:57,335 --> 00:46:00,455
Speaker 5: probably go directly to council too, because there's no way,

811
00:46:00,975 --> 00:46:04,815
Speaker 5: I would hope right now that you could get a

812
00:46:04,895 --> 00:46:07,335
Speaker 5: building consent. Is this a new build or an alteration?

813
00:46:07,535 --> 00:46:08,935
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's a new building.

814
00:46:09,215 --> 00:46:11,815
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So they will have had to have

815
00:46:12,055 --> 00:46:16,735
Speaker 5: proven what how they're going to control stormwater. Now, maybe

816
00:46:16,935 --> 00:46:19,135
Speaker 5: what they're going to do is take the end of

817
00:46:19,215 --> 00:46:22,135
Speaker 5: that pipe and go further to do you know where

818
00:46:22,175 --> 00:46:24,615
Speaker 5: the council line might be with the public liners.

819
00:46:25,055 --> 00:46:27,015
Speaker 8: It would be right back on the road for to

820
00:46:27,095 --> 00:46:28,135
Speaker 8: somehow pump it back.

821
00:46:29,055 --> 00:46:34,215
Speaker 5: They're going the wrong way. Genius far Okay, And is

822
00:46:34,255 --> 00:46:36,535
Speaker 5: it just one house or is it like twenty five.

823
00:46:37,415 --> 00:46:40,935
Speaker 8: It's one house, one house? Yeah, it just looks looks

824
00:46:40,935 --> 00:46:41,655
Speaker 8: a bit sneaky.

825
00:46:41,935 --> 00:46:50,855
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, look either way. The the the absolute is

826
00:46:50,975 --> 00:46:54,815
Speaker 5: that they must connect, they must control their stormwater, right so,

827
00:46:55,375 --> 00:46:58,815
Speaker 5: you know, potentially depending on where they might have said, hey,

828
00:46:58,855 --> 00:47:02,535
Speaker 5: look we can do on site stormwater control. We're going

829
00:47:02,575 --> 00:47:05,015
Speaker 5: to be drilling down, or we're going to do a chamber,

830
00:47:05,375 --> 00:47:07,135
Speaker 5: or we're going to do it chamber and then we're

831
00:47:07,135 --> 00:47:10,895
Speaker 5: going to pump. Council I think, you know, for an

832
00:47:11,095 --> 00:47:14,975
Speaker 5: entire house would be really reluctant to say, yep, you

833
00:47:15,095 --> 00:47:18,735
Speaker 5: can send all of your storm water because you're talking

834
00:47:19,135 --> 00:47:23,615
Speaker 5: like thousands of liters right in a decent rainfall into

835
00:47:23,695 --> 00:47:26,415
Speaker 5: a chamber and then pump it back up. They typically

836
00:47:26,535 --> 00:47:31,375
Speaker 5: don't like those solutions. They like gravity feed solutions. So

837
00:47:31,975 --> 00:47:34,375
Speaker 5: they would be better off going to the road frontage

838
00:47:34,415 --> 00:47:36,815
Speaker 5: and having it on a siphon system. If it had

839
00:47:36,815 --> 00:47:39,215
Speaker 5: to travel slightly uphill rather than allow it to go

840
00:47:39,335 --> 00:47:42,455
Speaker 5: downhill and then have a mechanical solution. You can do

841
00:47:42,695 --> 00:47:49,415
Speaker 5: mechanical solutions, but again not desirable in terms of collecting

842
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:53,775
Speaker 5: all of the roof water. And certainly nowadays, if you

843
00:47:53,815 --> 00:47:57,575
Speaker 5: do have mechanical solutions i e. Storm waters into a chamber,

844
00:47:57,775 --> 00:48:00,295
Speaker 5: then there's a pump. Typically you have to have a

845
00:48:00,455 --> 00:48:04,495
Speaker 5: second pump in there for a redundancy there. Often they

846
00:48:04,575 --> 00:48:07,015
Speaker 5: have to be alarmed so that you know if it's

847
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:09,735
Speaker 5: not working and you can do something about it, because

848
00:48:10,375 --> 00:48:12,455
Speaker 5: you know what you don't want to happen, and what

849
00:48:12,615 --> 00:48:15,695
Speaker 5: your concern is about is that, hey, all that water

850
00:48:15,775 --> 00:48:17,255
Speaker 5: is going to end up in my property and that's

851
00:48:17,295 --> 00:48:20,775
Speaker 5: a no no. Yeah yeah okay, So yeah, you're definitely

852
00:48:20,815 --> 00:48:22,975
Speaker 5: on the right path and I think you're right to

853
00:48:23,055 --> 00:48:23,615
Speaker 5: be concerned.

854
00:48:24,535 --> 00:48:26,615
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's all good.

855
00:48:26,695 --> 00:48:26,935
Speaker 11: Thank you.

856
00:48:27,095 --> 00:48:31,095
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh mate, all of our best. Take care. Thanks Brian.

857
00:48:32,095 --> 00:48:35,175
Speaker 5: Always interested to know how those stories play out too. Oh,

858
00:48:35,215 --> 00:48:37,975
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

859
00:48:43,255 --> 00:48:43,495
Speaker 3: A wee.

860
00:48:43,575 --> 00:48:46,295
Speaker 5: While ago we had a text or a question around

861
00:48:46,335 --> 00:48:49,855
Speaker 5: painting in a bathroom and some crazing that happened. So

862
00:48:50,015 --> 00:48:52,215
Speaker 5: just to follow up to that from a text from

863
00:48:52,255 --> 00:48:55,815
Speaker 5: a guy who your person who is a painter morning,

864
00:48:55,855 --> 00:48:57,775
Speaker 5: I'm a painter. In the issue is that the original

865
00:48:57,895 --> 00:49:01,775
Speaker 5: sealers were never used over the waxy surface. For example,

866
00:49:01,855 --> 00:49:04,455
Speaker 5: it's aquiline. So what we know about aquiline and bathrooms

867
00:49:04,615 --> 00:49:06,455
Speaker 5: is if you're going to seal it, you need to

868
00:49:06,615 --> 00:49:09,255
Speaker 5: use sure seal, you need to use a pigmented sealer

869
00:49:09,895 --> 00:49:14,415
Speaker 5: of some description. Quick dry or standard wallboard sealers won't

870
00:49:15,415 --> 00:49:19,415
Speaker 5: work on those and so it may even keep happening

871
00:49:19,495 --> 00:49:23,895
Speaker 5: after repainting, because it's the key into the substrate that's

872
00:49:23,975 --> 00:49:27,575
Speaker 5: really important, he said. Unfortunately, with some new homes, some

873
00:49:27,695 --> 00:49:30,735
Speaker 5: painters are basically just lazy and they're using the wrong

874
00:49:30,935 --> 00:49:33,535
Speaker 5: sealers and they just you know, they can't be bothered

875
00:49:33,575 --> 00:49:35,935
Speaker 5: swapping out between a sealer that you might be able

876
00:49:35,935 --> 00:49:37,815
Speaker 5: to use in the hallway next door to what you're

877
00:49:37,895 --> 00:49:39,975
Speaker 5: using in the bathroom. So thank you very much. So

878
00:49:40,095 --> 00:49:41,655
Speaker 5: it's taking a little while to get to that text,

879
00:49:41,735 --> 00:49:45,935
Speaker 5: but that's you're absolutely spot on. No surprises there. Oh,

880
00:49:45,975 --> 00:49:48,255
Speaker 5: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Actually another quick

881
00:49:48,295 --> 00:49:50,015
Speaker 5: text before we go, we might go to the break

882
00:49:50,055 --> 00:49:51,935
Speaker 5: in a minute. Good morning, We've got a three year

883
00:49:51,975 --> 00:49:54,095
Speaker 5: old townhouse, and I've noticed that in some areas the

884
00:49:54,175 --> 00:49:57,335
Speaker 5: screws of the plaster board have started to pop out slightly.

885
00:49:58,255 --> 00:50:00,735
Speaker 5: They become visible through the paint. I was wondering what

886
00:50:00,815 --> 00:50:02,775
Speaker 5: the cause of that would be, and if it could

887
00:50:02,855 --> 00:50:05,175
Speaker 5: be related to any moisture, or whether there is something

888
00:50:05,255 --> 00:50:09,695
Speaker 5: that can have and doesn't need any further assessment. Thank you. No,

889
00:50:10,095 --> 00:50:14,135
Speaker 5: it's basically I'm just going to lay it out there

890
00:50:14,175 --> 00:50:19,215
Speaker 5: and go it's poor workmanship, right. It happens, it can happen,

891
00:50:20,295 --> 00:50:23,495
Speaker 5: but it shouldn't happen consistently, and it shouldn't happen a lot.

892
00:50:24,015 --> 00:50:27,655
Speaker 5: So if what you're starting to see is the screws popping,

893
00:50:28,615 --> 00:50:33,135
Speaker 5: chances are the it's a combination of things. The wall

894
00:50:33,175 --> 00:50:35,895
Speaker 5: framing might have been too wet at the time that

895
00:50:36,135 --> 00:50:40,935
Speaker 5: the plasterboard was fixed, so it's gone over. The plasterboard's

896
00:50:40,975 --> 00:50:44,575
Speaker 5: gone on over wet framing, the framing has dried, and

897
00:50:44,735 --> 00:50:48,215
Speaker 5: as it shrinks, the screw doesn't shrink because it's metal,

898
00:50:48,415 --> 00:50:51,055
Speaker 5: and it starts to push out. Might also be that

899
00:50:51,895 --> 00:50:56,215
Speaker 5: they use screws but not enough glue, and so they

900
00:50:56,375 --> 00:50:59,215
Speaker 5: don't sink the screw far enough. In doesn't hold the

901
00:50:59,295 --> 00:51:02,415
Speaker 5: board to the wall lining, and if there's not the

902
00:51:02,575 --> 00:51:05,815
Speaker 5: right amount of glue in the right places, then you

903
00:51:06,375 --> 00:51:09,735
Speaker 5: might keet popping from that, and I think it should

904
00:51:09,735 --> 00:51:13,215
Speaker 5: be repaired. So if it's happening, and it's it's you know,

905
00:51:14,335 --> 00:51:16,815
Speaker 5: more than a little bit, then I would say I

906
00:51:16,855 --> 00:51:19,375
Speaker 5: would probably talk to the developer and get them back.

907
00:51:19,695 --> 00:51:22,335
Speaker 5: Three years might not be possible. They might have said

908
00:51:22,375 --> 00:51:24,495
Speaker 5: look for a year, will warranty that type of thing,

909
00:51:25,575 --> 00:51:28,015
Speaker 5: But I would try and fix it either, you know,

910
00:51:28,135 --> 00:51:32,975
Speaker 5: scrap scrap the top of the screw head clear, screw

911
00:51:33,055 --> 00:51:34,615
Speaker 5: it in a bit, or just take it out and

912
00:51:34,695 --> 00:51:37,135
Speaker 5: then stop and patch the wall. But you're probably end

913
00:51:37,215 --> 00:51:40,575
Speaker 5: up repainting entire walls as well. Right, oh oh eight,

914
00:51:40,575 --> 00:51:42,895
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

915
00:51:43,095 --> 00:51:45,895
Speaker 5: and let's go to Grunt straight away. Gooday, Grant, how

916
00:51:45,935 --> 00:51:46,295
Speaker 5: are you doing?

917
00:51:48,895 --> 00:51:49,495
Speaker 11: Yeah?

918
00:51:49,535 --> 00:51:50,935
Speaker 15: Good things all right there?

919
00:51:51,055 --> 00:51:52,615
Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah.

920
00:51:52,695 --> 00:51:55,095
Speaker 15: So I think this one will intrigue you. So we've

921
00:51:55,135 --> 00:51:58,455
Speaker 15: got a BIA cycle system that's a sewerage system YEP.

922
00:51:59,215 --> 00:52:02,575
Speaker 15: Three chamber system air rights, first chamber take all the

923
00:52:02,655 --> 00:52:05,575
Speaker 15: house waste y air right the second chamber, third chamber

924
00:52:05,575 --> 00:52:09,775
Speaker 15: pumps out to a field fifteen years old, worked brilliantly,

925
00:52:10,135 --> 00:52:15,055
Speaker 15: no issues. Council inspected every six months perhont Last time

926
00:52:16,055 --> 00:52:18,335
Speaker 15: the guy said, lilak, you know the first chamber is

927
00:52:18,375 --> 00:52:18,895
Speaker 15: getting full.

928
00:52:19,255 --> 00:52:20,055
Speaker 12: You need to empty it.

929
00:52:20,615 --> 00:52:23,495
Speaker 15: So we waited three months until it was nice and dry.

930
00:52:23,695 --> 00:52:27,655
Speaker 15: We got it emptied, no worries. Guess what, having it

931
00:52:27,695 --> 00:52:33,815
Speaker 15: empty put a crack in the plastic tank. Okay, so yeah, yeah, exactly.

932
00:52:34,095 --> 00:52:36,455
Speaker 15: So now we're up for a replacement. Here's where it

933
00:52:36,495 --> 00:52:40,615
Speaker 15: gets interesting. I've had three separate contractors come around. The

934
00:52:40,695 --> 00:52:43,295
Speaker 15: most preferred contractor, he says, we need to go for

935
00:52:43,415 --> 00:52:46,495
Speaker 15: a consent, but it's a light for like system. In fact,

936
00:52:46,575 --> 00:52:52,255
Speaker 15: the same manufacturer, the insurance company, and two other contractors saying, hell,

937
00:52:52,375 --> 00:52:55,095
Speaker 15: don't tell the council, that'll be the start of your problem.

938
00:52:56,735 --> 00:52:59,495
Speaker 15: And you know it is one hundred percent like for

939
00:52:59,695 --> 00:53:03,215
Speaker 15: like system. It's still an aeration system. And at the beginning,

940
00:53:03,415 --> 00:53:06,495
Speaker 15: you know, the testing and the consents required to put

941
00:53:06,535 --> 00:53:09,295
Speaker 15: this thing in the first place are enormous. So what's

942
00:53:09,335 --> 00:53:11,895
Speaker 15: your view on that consent or no consent?

943
00:53:15,215 --> 00:53:17,655
Speaker 5: Perfect timing in a sense, because I spent a little

944
00:53:17,655 --> 00:53:20,935
Speaker 5: bit of time this week trying to work my way

945
00:53:20,975 --> 00:53:23,655
Speaker 5: through Schedule one of the Act, right, so there's like

946
00:53:23,735 --> 00:53:26,495
Speaker 5: a two page summary, and then I downloaded, I clicked

947
00:53:26,495 --> 00:53:28,335
Speaker 5: on download, and I ended up with four hundred and

948
00:53:28,375 --> 00:53:31,095
Speaker 5: sixty two pages of the Building Act, which I haven't

949
00:53:31,175 --> 00:53:39,175
Speaker 5: finished reading yet but I will. So like the Schedule

950
00:53:39,255 --> 00:53:40,935
Speaker 5: one of the Act sets out work that can be

951
00:53:41,015 --> 00:53:43,975
Speaker 5: done without necessarily requiring a consent. And then once you

952
00:53:44,055 --> 00:53:46,335
Speaker 5: start reading through the two page summary of it, in

953
00:53:46,415 --> 00:53:50,935
Speaker 5: the Act, it talks about, you know, replacing items the

954
00:53:51,095 --> 00:53:53,655
Speaker 5: same item, right, and then it talks about for example,

955
00:53:53,735 --> 00:53:58,335
Speaker 5: weather boards you can replace a reasonable number. Then it

956
00:53:58,495 --> 00:54:02,535
Speaker 5: talks about one of the exemptions. Well, so it sets

957
00:54:02,535 --> 00:54:05,055
Speaker 5: out what you can do without necessarily requiring a consent.

958
00:54:05,215 --> 00:54:08,855
Speaker 5: Then in that is accept in situations where it's a

959
00:54:08,975 --> 00:54:13,255
Speaker 5: failure of a system, and so there is a possibility

960
00:54:13,335 --> 00:54:16,495
Speaker 5: that if but it's not a failure, as in, your

961
00:54:16,575 --> 00:54:18,815
Speaker 5: system hasn't failed, it's just that it's got to crack

962
00:54:18,855 --> 00:54:22,535
Speaker 5: in it. So you're it's not like a window, for example,

963
00:54:22,655 --> 00:54:26,055
Speaker 5: that's leaked because it was poorly made or poorly installed.

964
00:54:26,455 --> 00:54:29,775
Speaker 5: It worked, it's broken and you're replacing it like ful like,

965
00:54:29,935 --> 00:54:32,495
Speaker 5: and particularly I think if you're going to use a

966
00:54:32,655 --> 00:54:37,295
Speaker 5: replacement unit from the original manufacturer. I think you could

967
00:54:37,335 --> 00:54:38,375
Speaker 5: do that without a consent.

968
00:54:39,375 --> 00:54:39,575
Speaker 8: Yeah.

969
00:54:39,615 --> 00:54:41,855
Speaker 15: Two of the two of the contractors are saying, look,

970
00:54:41,895 --> 00:54:44,495
Speaker 15: it's emergency works, so it has to be done right away. Yes,

971
00:54:44,775 --> 00:54:49,615
Speaker 15: and it is in all respects the similar system. And

972
00:54:50,415 --> 00:54:53,775
Speaker 15: they're talking about like it's a maintenance surgeon. Just go

973
00:54:53,895 --> 00:54:54,495
Speaker 15: ahead and do it.

974
00:54:54,695 --> 00:54:54,855
Speaker 8: Yeah.

975
00:54:54,895 --> 00:54:55,495
Speaker 6: I think so too.

976
00:54:55,615 --> 00:54:57,575
Speaker 15: I think content can take months.

977
00:54:57,975 --> 00:54:58,175
Speaker 5: Yep.

978
00:54:58,335 --> 00:54:59,775
Speaker 12: And you know this is a job.

979
00:55:00,015 --> 00:55:02,575
Speaker 5: You need to have this done now. I'm curious, just

980
00:55:02,655 --> 00:55:04,695
Speaker 5: going back to the original point. So once it was

981
00:55:04,975 --> 00:55:07,495
Speaker 5: once the tank was empty out, what do you think

982
00:55:07,575 --> 00:55:09,655
Speaker 5: caused the cracking? Just the fact that it had no

983
00:55:09,895 --> 00:55:10,695
Speaker 5: internal volume.

984
00:55:11,495 --> 00:55:14,335
Speaker 15: Yeah, I had to sign a waiver. This particular company,

985
00:55:14,575 --> 00:55:17,655
Speaker 15: Devon nine thousand. They no longer make them anymore notorious

986
00:55:18,215 --> 00:55:22,255
Speaker 15: for when they get emptied. Their thraw is not level.

987
00:55:22,415 --> 00:55:27,015
Speaker 15: It has some undulations right, like chambers, and apparently because

988
00:55:27,015 --> 00:55:29,095
Speaker 15: there's no hydrostatic pressure at this time of the year,

989
00:55:29,135 --> 00:55:31,495
Speaker 15: the drying the ground is bone dry and you have

990
00:55:31,615 --> 00:55:34,655
Speaker 15: to fill it up immediately, which we did. But it's

991
00:55:34,815 --> 00:55:37,815
Speaker 15: just the tank goes and it cracked.

992
00:55:37,895 --> 00:55:38,055
Speaker 11: Yeah.

993
00:55:38,335 --> 00:55:41,935
Speaker 15: Yeah, yah, they warn me this would happen, and yeah,

994
00:55:42,055 --> 00:55:44,615
Speaker 15: it's this particular system isn't made anymore.

995
00:55:44,855 --> 00:55:45,855
Speaker 6: The company still.

996
00:55:45,655 --> 00:55:50,495
Speaker 15: Exists, but they've upgraded the type of plastic. And yeah,

997
00:55:50,535 --> 00:55:53,375
Speaker 15: I mean it's a nightmare. It's just something you wouldn't

998
00:55:53,415 --> 00:55:56,935
Speaker 15: and you know you're talking twenty grand and if you

999
00:55:57,015 --> 00:55:59,255
Speaker 15: have to wait for a consent could be months. And

1000
00:55:59,335 --> 00:56:01,375
Speaker 15: in the worst case scenario, if you've got a very

1001
00:56:01,415 --> 00:56:03,735
Speaker 15: bad lead, the accounts that can already order you out

1002
00:56:03,735 --> 00:56:04,135
Speaker 15: of the house.

1003
00:56:06,055 --> 00:56:06,215
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1004
00:56:07,575 --> 00:56:11,215
Speaker 5: Look, you know, given that you're you're going to you know,

1005
00:56:11,295 --> 00:56:13,175
Speaker 5: if you said, look, I'm going to do it myself,

1006
00:56:13,215 --> 00:56:15,975
Speaker 5: i'd go. But if you're going to use, you know,

1007
00:56:16,095 --> 00:56:19,735
Speaker 5: a suitably experienced and qualified contractor, you're going to be

1008
00:56:19,895 --> 00:56:25,295
Speaker 5: using the same product again. You know, even if it's

1009
00:56:25,335 --> 00:56:28,375
Speaker 5: not required, you could get a producer statement from the

1010
00:56:28,495 --> 00:56:31,095
Speaker 5: installer saying this is what I've done. You've got the

1011
00:56:31,135 --> 00:56:36,295
Speaker 5: warranty documents from the supplier of the product, document the work.

1012
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:39,895
Speaker 5: I can't see the benefit of going and getting a

1013
00:56:39,975 --> 00:56:40,575
Speaker 5: consent for this.

1014
00:56:41,175 --> 00:56:43,815
Speaker 15: The products are all certified and you can't buy them.

1015
00:56:43,975 --> 00:56:46,575
Speaker 15: It has to be done by draining, are you? But

1016
00:56:46,695 --> 00:56:48,215
Speaker 15: you know they come along with a digger's the one

1017
00:56:48,255 --> 00:56:49,935
Speaker 15: day job. They dig it out, they cut it up,

1018
00:56:49,935 --> 00:56:51,695
Speaker 15: they put the new one in and they connect the

1019
00:56:51,735 --> 00:56:53,935
Speaker 15: old feel back up and it's all going again within

1020
00:56:54,015 --> 00:56:57,375
Speaker 15: twelve hours. Yes, but do we need a consent or

1021
00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,735
Speaker 15: do we need just a letter of acceptance? And of

1022
00:56:59,815 --> 00:57:01,815
Speaker 15: course as soon as you notify the council, you've stuck

1023
00:57:01,855 --> 00:57:03,255
Speaker 15: your hand up and said, look at me, I've got

1024
00:57:03,295 --> 00:57:03,695
Speaker 15: a problem.

1025
00:57:05,895 --> 00:57:08,015
Speaker 5: Can I could just one quick question before we go.

1026
00:57:08,775 --> 00:57:11,055
Speaker 5: So with your system, which has been in for how.

1027
00:57:11,015 --> 00:57:12,575
Speaker 15: Long fifteen years?

1028
00:57:12,735 --> 00:57:13,855
Speaker 8: Worked flawlessly and.

1029
00:57:14,055 --> 00:57:18,055
Speaker 5: Over those finteen years time, have you always had the

1030
00:57:19,095 --> 00:57:20,335
Speaker 5: six monthly inspections?

1031
00:57:21,535 --> 00:57:24,695
Speaker 15: They started about two years ago. Pain in the net

1032
00:57:25,855 --> 00:57:28,535
Speaker 15: you get an automated letter from an AI bot and

1033
00:57:28,735 --> 00:57:31,295
Speaker 15: if you don't do anything, you get another one. I mean,

1034
00:57:31,335 --> 00:57:34,015
Speaker 15: they honestly don't need inspecting every six months, but because

1035
00:57:34,015 --> 00:57:36,535
Speaker 15: I'm always cleaning my filters anyway. Yes, the good thing

1036
00:57:36,575 --> 00:57:39,335
Speaker 15: about our system and if you treat them kindly, we've

1037
00:57:39,415 --> 00:57:44,335
Speaker 15: been very paranoid about the right dishwashing part products fifteen

1038
00:57:44,495 --> 00:57:46,495
Speaker 15: years before the primary tank needed.

1039
00:57:46,295 --> 00:57:46,775
Speaker 6: To pump out.

1040
00:57:47,135 --> 00:57:50,855
Speaker 15: It's remarkable a and the systems work flawlessly, and the

1041
00:57:50,935 --> 00:57:52,775
Speaker 15: water that comes out at the end of the field

1042
00:57:53,055 --> 00:57:56,775
Speaker 15: when you test it, you wouldn't drink it, but it

1043
00:57:56,895 --> 00:57:57,455
Speaker 15: probably could.

1044
00:57:57,855 --> 00:57:58,695
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you.

1045
00:57:59,535 --> 00:58:00,095
Speaker 6: It's that good.

1046
00:58:00,535 --> 00:58:04,175
Speaker 5: How interesting he appreciate that for what it's worth. I

1047
00:58:04,295 --> 00:58:06,775
Speaker 5: think you know you've covered off all of those points

1048
00:58:06,815 --> 00:58:08,735
Speaker 5: that would go you know, what are my risks?

1049
00:58:08,815 --> 00:58:08,935
Speaker 6: Right?

1050
00:58:09,095 --> 00:58:11,375
Speaker 5: And how have I mitigated those risks? And I think

1051
00:58:11,375 --> 00:58:14,975
Speaker 5: you're doing it spot on. Yeah, all the best, Grant,

1052
00:58:15,335 --> 00:58:17,255
Speaker 5: Good luck mate, all the best. Pob By Then eight

1053
00:58:17,335 --> 00:58:19,575
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call. We'll

1054
00:58:19,615 --> 00:58:21,815
Speaker 5: talk to Graham about the shower after the break. If

1055
00:58:21,815 --> 00:58:23,415
Speaker 5: you'd like to join us, the lines are open. The

1056
00:58:23,495 --> 00:58:25,575
Speaker 5: number is eight hundred eighty ten.

1057
00:58:25,495 --> 00:58:29,055
Speaker 1: Eighty doing other house extorting the garden last Pete for

1058
00:58:29,135 --> 00:58:32,695
Speaker 1: a hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call eight

1059
00:58:32,775 --> 00:58:34,935
Speaker 1: hundred eighty eighty news togs V.

1060
00:58:35,975 --> 00:58:39,855
Speaker 5: Just another thought on Grant's conversation just prior to the break.

1061
00:58:40,295 --> 00:58:44,415
Speaker 5: This is about the septic tank system, BI cycle system

1062
00:58:44,695 --> 00:58:48,615
Speaker 5: is just in terms of signing things off with council.

1063
00:58:49,015 --> 00:58:51,655
Speaker 5: I wonder if it would be worth someone suggested going

1064
00:58:51,695 --> 00:58:57,975
Speaker 5: for a CoA, which I wouldn't advise because they'll they'll

1065
00:58:58,015 --> 00:59:00,455
Speaker 5: wonder why you're applying for a certificate of acceptance when

1066
00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:02,815
Speaker 5: you could have applied for a building consent if you

1067
00:59:02,895 --> 00:59:05,255
Speaker 5: felt that you needed one. But in terms of like

1068
00:59:05,455 --> 00:59:08,175
Speaker 5: just getting a sign off from council, I wonder if

1069
00:59:08,215 --> 00:59:12,095
Speaker 5: it's worth talking to council about getting an exemption. So

1070
00:59:12,575 --> 00:59:17,535
Speaker 5: you're notifying them of work that might trigger the requirement

1071
00:59:17,615 --> 00:59:21,055
Speaker 5: for a building consent, but you're getting their approval to

1072
00:59:21,295 --> 00:59:24,255
Speaker 5: not get a building consent. Therefore, if someone asks you

1073
00:59:24,375 --> 00:59:27,175
Speaker 5: later on, why don't you have a building consent for it,

1074
00:59:27,335 --> 00:59:29,735
Speaker 5: you could go well, because I talked to council explain

1075
00:59:29,815 --> 00:59:31,815
Speaker 5: what I was doing, and they've given me an exemption.

1076
00:59:32,215 --> 00:59:34,455
Speaker 5: And I was talking to a contractor yesterday at the

1077
00:59:34,735 --> 00:59:39,695
Speaker 5: Home and Garden show Nderneden. They were their doing insulation

1078
00:59:39,895 --> 00:59:44,015
Speaker 5: into exterior walls. We know that adding insulation to existing

1079
00:59:44,135 --> 00:59:48,375
Speaker 5: exterior walls requires a building consent. One of the processes

1080
00:59:48,415 --> 00:59:50,735
Speaker 5: that they have is they go to council with all

1081
00:59:50,815 --> 00:59:54,295
Speaker 5: of the information about their system, the location of the property,

1082
00:59:54,615 --> 00:59:58,295
Speaker 5: and they get an exemption from a building consent. That

1083
00:59:58,415 --> 01:00:02,615
Speaker 5: at least makes counsel the record keeper, so we know

1084
01:00:02,735 --> 01:00:04,895
Speaker 5: that the work is being done, we know that it's

1085
01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:08,135
Speaker 5: been done appropriately. We don't need to a building consent,

1086
01:00:08,255 --> 01:00:10,135
Speaker 5: but we do have a record of the work being

1087
01:00:10,215 --> 01:00:13,495
Speaker 5: done and it's that record keeping. You can kind of

1088
01:00:13,575 --> 01:00:16,935
Speaker 5: see the government moving to shift Council into that role

1089
01:00:17,095 --> 01:00:20,615
Speaker 5: a little bit, just as a wider political thing, becoming

1090
01:00:20,655 --> 01:00:24,815
Speaker 5: the record keeper rather than the regulator in a sense. Oh,

1091
01:00:24,855 --> 01:00:26,815
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1092
01:00:27,055 --> 01:00:30,495
Speaker 5: another couple of behind them a text messages. So bear

1093
01:00:30,655 --> 01:00:33,295
Speaker 5: with me just a second, Pete. We want a double

1094
01:00:33,295 --> 01:00:36,575
Speaker 5: glaze and average size nineteen sixties house close to Hamilton.

1095
01:00:36,655 --> 01:00:39,735
Speaker 5: It's got existing timber joinery. We can't decide on the

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01:00:39,815 --> 01:00:43,135
Speaker 5: aluminium inserts, the PBC inserts or the double glazed timber.

1097
01:00:43,535 --> 01:00:46,975
Speaker 5: How well air sealed are the timber window sashes. One

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01:00:47,095 --> 01:00:50,295
Speaker 5: quote was for standard alley without the thermal Breakthanks very

1099
01:00:50,375 --> 01:00:52,535
Speaker 5: much from Dave. Sorry it's taken a little while to

1100
01:00:52,575 --> 01:00:55,695
Speaker 5: get to that, Dave. Look, in terms of the thermal

1101
01:00:55,775 --> 01:01:01,215
Speaker 5: performance of the joinery, timber performs particularly well. So if

1102
01:01:01,295 --> 01:01:04,455
Speaker 5: you can deal with the air leakage around the edge

1103
01:01:04,455 --> 01:01:06,895
Speaker 5: of it by making sure the hint are in good

1104
01:01:06,935 --> 01:01:10,215
Speaker 5: condition or the stays and the latches and maybe adding

1105
01:01:10,335 --> 01:01:15,495
Speaker 5: draft seal around the perimeter, then retrofitting your existing timber

1106
01:01:15,615 --> 01:01:18,895
Speaker 5: joinery is actually a huge advantage. If it's in good

1107
01:01:18,935 --> 01:01:23,895
Speaker 5: condition if that's all too much work. One of my

1108
01:01:24,175 --> 01:01:28,375
Speaker 5: family members extended family, had a nineteen fifties weather board

1109
01:01:28,415 --> 01:01:34,615
Speaker 5: house where they opted for PVC inserts or uPVC inserts,

1110
01:01:34,695 --> 01:01:37,495
Speaker 5: so that was keeping the frame but taking out the

1111
01:01:37,895 --> 01:01:41,415
Speaker 5: actual sashes and mullions and those sorts of things, and

1112
01:01:41,575 --> 01:01:46,255
Speaker 5: that worked particularly well. And again PVC has a higher

1113
01:01:46,415 --> 01:01:51,735
Speaker 5: thermal efficiency than aluminium, so there's an advantage there. Hopefully

1114
01:01:51,815 --> 01:01:55,575
Speaker 5: that helps, but yeah, the timber's got some advantages to

1115
01:01:55,615 --> 01:01:59,335
Speaker 5: be fair under floor installation on a batch. Look, there's

1116
01:01:59,335 --> 01:02:01,695
Speaker 5: a range of really good products out there. If it's

1117
01:02:02,015 --> 01:02:04,695
Speaker 5: quite exposed, you might want to look at one that

1118
01:02:04,935 --> 01:02:08,295
Speaker 5: has like a building attached to it. What that does

1119
01:02:08,415 --> 01:02:12,335
Speaker 5: is it reduces the amount of airflow into the insulation material,

1120
01:02:13,135 --> 01:02:16,775
Speaker 5: because insulation works best when there's no drafts through it,

1121
01:02:16,975 --> 01:02:20,575
Speaker 5: so in an exposed area you might want to consider that. Otherwise,

1122
01:02:21,055 --> 01:02:22,815
Speaker 5: my go to has always been green Stuff for the

1123
01:02:22,895 --> 01:02:25,095
Speaker 5: last couple of years, so they do a very good

1124
01:02:25,255 --> 01:02:28,935
Speaker 5: underfloor insallation. Heat transfer one room to another are the

1125
01:02:29,015 --> 01:02:32,935
Speaker 5: heat transfer kitsworth installing. I've always been a little bit

1126
01:02:32,975 --> 01:02:37,455
Speaker 5: skeptical of the efficiency of the system, like how much

1127
01:02:37,575 --> 01:02:40,695
Speaker 5: heat actually goes from one area to another saying that

1128
01:02:40,975 --> 01:02:44,335
Speaker 5: I know people who have installed them, and if they've

1129
01:02:44,415 --> 01:02:47,135
Speaker 5: installed them well and they've been reasonable with their expectation,

1130
01:02:48,495 --> 01:02:51,095
Speaker 5: it might actually be more of an advantage to having

1131
01:02:51,135 --> 01:02:55,295
Speaker 5: the ventilation rather than the heat transfer. But yes, if

1132
01:02:55,335 --> 01:02:58,335
Speaker 5: it's a modest amount of money, go for it. Quella

1133
01:02:58,575 --> 01:03:02,255
Speaker 5: leaching pre leaching by using something like wet and forget

1134
01:03:02,295 --> 01:03:04,615
Speaker 5: and letting it dry and then wash off. I'm not

1135
01:03:04,735 --> 01:03:08,415
Speaker 5: sure that I've ever talked about doing that. I would

1136
01:03:08,695 --> 01:03:13,455
Speaker 5: leave my queeler out, let's say, on the lawn. If

1137
01:03:13,655 --> 01:03:15,975
Speaker 5: it's going to be installed somewhere where it could drip

1138
01:03:16,055 --> 01:03:18,255
Speaker 5: down onto the concrete path, then I would leave it

1139
01:03:18,415 --> 01:03:21,295
Speaker 5: exposed to the weather for a period of time before

1140
01:03:21,375 --> 01:03:24,575
Speaker 5: it's installing it. I do the same with outdoor furniture.

1141
01:03:24,615 --> 01:03:28,135
Speaker 5: If it happened to be a hardwood, or if it's

1142
01:03:28,375 --> 01:03:31,055
Speaker 5: on above an area where it's going to leach, then

1143
01:03:31,095 --> 01:03:34,095
Speaker 5: you want to protect that area for as long as

1144
01:03:34,135 --> 01:03:36,535
Speaker 5: it continues to leach, which kind of answers another text

1145
01:03:36,615 --> 01:03:40,575
Speaker 5: question as well. And then talking about the hearing pete,

1146
01:03:40,695 --> 01:03:42,775
Speaker 5: I remember once reading that banging and nails with a

1147
01:03:42,815 --> 01:03:45,495
Speaker 5: hammer so not a power tool insight is a significant

1148
01:03:45,535 --> 01:03:48,615
Speaker 5: contributor to hearing loss, which is often overlooked. So please

1149
01:03:48,655 --> 01:03:50,895
Speaker 5: cover that off with your experts to see if that

1150
01:03:51,135 --> 01:03:53,775
Speaker 5: is in fact the case. I will take that and

1151
01:03:53,895 --> 01:03:55,615
Speaker 5: make a note of that, Mike, thank you very much.

1152
01:03:57,455 --> 01:03:58,335
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to think.

1153
01:03:58,535 --> 01:03:58,735
Speaker 11: Look.

1154
01:03:58,815 --> 01:04:02,255
Speaker 5: To be fair, my standard practice would be I would

1155
01:04:02,295 --> 01:04:07,375
Speaker 5: be wearing my ear muffs while I'm ammering, not just

1156
01:04:07,615 --> 01:04:10,735
Speaker 5: using power tools, let's say, or not just using you know,

1157
01:04:10,895 --> 01:04:13,535
Speaker 5: like a nail gun, whether it's a gas one or

1158
01:04:13,575 --> 01:04:16,255
Speaker 5: a battery one. I happen to have both of them,

1159
01:04:17,455 --> 01:04:19,695
Speaker 5: I would use it. And certainly every time I pick

1160
01:04:19,775 --> 01:04:23,095
Speaker 5: up a skill sore or even an impact driver, typically

1161
01:04:23,255 --> 01:04:27,735
Speaker 5: I would. I'm also to be fair, I bought a

1162
01:04:27,815 --> 01:04:32,215
Speaker 5: pair of muff Tech ear muffs, which are New Zealand designed,

1163
01:04:33,135 --> 01:04:35,135
Speaker 5: and they're done by a couple of young guys out

1164
01:04:35,175 --> 01:04:40,535
Speaker 5: of Wellington who got sick of having poor quality speakers,

1165
01:04:40,615 --> 01:04:44,095
Speaker 5: so they've got speakers in them. They're not noise canceling.

1166
01:04:44,175 --> 01:04:49,175
Speaker 5: They're a conventional hearing protection ear muff, just with really

1167
01:04:49,295 --> 01:04:53,295
Speaker 5: good sound in them and Bluetooth connectivity. So I tend

1168
01:04:53,335 --> 01:04:56,015
Speaker 5: to wear those pretty much all day long, you know,

1169
01:04:56,415 --> 01:04:59,415
Speaker 5: because they're comfortable, which is great eight hundred and eighty

1170
01:04:59,455 --> 01:05:01,415
Speaker 5: ten eighty. Let's get back to the calls. Thank you

1171
01:05:01,535 --> 01:05:03,775
Speaker 5: very much for your patients. With that, it's good to

1172
01:05:03,855 --> 01:05:07,135
Speaker 5: get through a bunch of those text messages. Very very

1173
01:05:07,175 --> 01:05:08,495
Speaker 5: good morning to your Graham.

1174
01:05:09,415 --> 01:05:10,455
Speaker 3: Good morning, Peak, how are you?

1175
01:05:10,735 --> 01:05:11,775
Speaker 5: Thanks for waiting? Good thank you.

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01:05:13,655 --> 01:05:16,975
Speaker 16: Hey. We just bought a house that's almost three years old, yep,

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01:05:17,215 --> 01:05:21,135
Speaker 16: and we're the second owners. And the shower liner in

1178
01:05:21,295 --> 01:05:25,255
Speaker 16: the main bathroom and the on suite. When you push

1179
01:05:25,335 --> 01:05:28,215
Speaker 16: the liner, there's there's movement between the wall and the liner,

1180
01:05:28,295 --> 01:05:32,455
Speaker 16: and one of them is quite quite significant. You know,

1181
01:05:33,815 --> 01:05:36,255
Speaker 16: is it worth pursuing or.

1182
01:05:37,895 --> 01:05:38,695
Speaker 11: Will it be okay?

1183
01:05:42,815 --> 01:05:46,775
Speaker 5: Is at the top of the liner is it well sealed?

1184
01:05:47,255 --> 01:05:51,095
Speaker 5: So in fact, I was in a shower in the

1185
01:05:51,135 --> 01:05:53,415
Speaker 5: hotel used to and they had a liner on three sides,

1186
01:05:53,495 --> 01:05:57,295
Speaker 5: and so because I can't not look at anything building

1187
01:05:57,375 --> 01:05:59,855
Speaker 5: related without asking building questions, I was looking at the

1188
01:05:59,895 --> 01:06:02,135
Speaker 5: top of the liner, going I wonder if that's particularly

1189
01:06:02,175 --> 01:06:05,375
Speaker 5: well sealed. So at the top right where obviously your

1190
01:06:05,455 --> 01:06:08,375
Speaker 5: wall lining deends to the ceiling and the shower or

1191
01:06:08,575 --> 01:06:11,295
Speaker 5: lining will go up to two meters, say, at the

1192
01:06:11,375 --> 01:06:14,175
Speaker 5: top of that, is that junction well sealed or can

1193
01:06:14,495 --> 01:06:15,695
Speaker 5: water get in behind there?

1194
01:06:16,735 --> 01:06:19,375
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm not too sure, but right along the top,

1195
01:06:20,735 --> 01:06:23,095
Speaker 16: it is right along the bottom. I know that at

1196
01:06:23,095 --> 01:06:25,455
Speaker 16: the moment, but it is right along the bottom. Yeah,

1197
01:06:25,575 --> 01:06:27,495
Speaker 16: but it's just not in the middle area.

1198
01:06:28,175 --> 01:06:31,975
Speaker 5: Yeah, you come away and when you press that, like,

1199
01:06:32,135 --> 01:06:34,495
Speaker 5: does it bulge out and is noticeable or is it

1200
01:06:34,615 --> 01:06:36,415
Speaker 5: only when you press it you can tell that it

1201
01:06:36,575 --> 01:06:39,335
Speaker 5: hasn't laminated you correctly when you press it.

1202
01:06:39,455 --> 01:06:39,655
Speaker 16: Yep.

1203
01:06:40,015 --> 01:06:40,215
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1204
01:06:43,775 --> 01:06:46,335
Speaker 5: I wonder whether even at three years it might sort

1205
01:06:46,375 --> 01:06:48,895
Speaker 5: of be outside of warranty. I mean, the system will

1206
01:06:48,895 --> 01:06:51,495
Speaker 5: be warrantied for longer, but whether or not as a

1207
01:06:51,575 --> 01:06:55,295
Speaker 5: workmanship type thing, you could say, actually, it obviously hasn't

1208
01:06:55,375 --> 01:06:58,055
Speaker 5: been well adhered. I think one of the challenges is

1209
01:06:58,135 --> 01:07:03,015
Speaker 5: that people don't often prop or support or I call

1210
01:07:03,095 --> 01:07:07,415
Speaker 5: it tomming. So whenever I've installed shower linings like that,

1211
01:07:07,775 --> 01:07:11,335
Speaker 5: I've pre cut a series of pieces of timber that

1212
01:07:11,655 --> 01:07:14,655
Speaker 5: once I've got the shower in and pressed tightly against

1213
01:07:14,695 --> 01:07:17,255
Speaker 5: the wall, and I've got the adhesive in, and I've

1214
01:07:17,335 --> 01:07:19,895
Speaker 5: done the adhesive correctly, and you have to read the

1215
01:07:19,975 --> 01:07:24,815
Speaker 5: instructions from the manufacturer. There's a very specific pattern of

1216
01:07:25,015 --> 01:07:28,335
Speaker 5: how you apply the adhesive. To the substrate before you

1217
01:07:28,655 --> 01:07:33,095
Speaker 5: bond the liner to it. And then I typically cut

1218
01:07:33,215 --> 01:07:37,495
Speaker 5: myself some packers and I put that against the shower

1219
01:07:37,615 --> 01:07:40,375
Speaker 5: lining and then I prop it against the walls so

1220
01:07:40,575 --> 01:07:44,415
Speaker 5: that it's holding in place while the glue sets, rather

1221
01:07:44,535 --> 01:07:47,415
Speaker 5: than just shoving it in and taking off to the

1222
01:07:47,495 --> 01:07:50,335
Speaker 5: next job. So maybe they haven't done that.

1223
01:07:51,415 --> 01:07:53,575
Speaker 16: Yeah, the place that we just sold off, put a

1224
01:07:53,695 --> 01:07:57,055
Speaker 16: shower liner in that one there myself and fifteen years ago,

1225
01:07:57,615 --> 01:08:00,375
Speaker 16: and that when we left there was no sign of.

1226
01:08:00,375 --> 01:08:01,255
Speaker 5: It, no move at all.

1227
01:08:01,375 --> 01:08:02,975
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and I've we've.

1228
01:08:02,855 --> 01:08:05,055
Speaker 12: Done what you exactly what you said, raced it all.

1229
01:08:05,375 --> 01:08:07,415
Speaker 5: You know, if it's a three year old house, then

1230
01:08:07,615 --> 01:08:09,895
Speaker 5: obviously the builder and the developer and that sort of thing.

1231
01:08:09,935 --> 01:08:12,975
Speaker 5: Hopefully there's still around. It would be worth going through

1232
01:08:12,975 --> 01:08:15,975
Speaker 5: the property file. These days, there should be a lot

1233
01:08:16,055 --> 01:08:19,295
Speaker 5: of information on the property file about who installed that system.

1234
01:08:20,135 --> 01:08:22,815
Speaker 5: You could always or if you can identify the manufacturer,

1235
01:08:23,575 --> 01:08:25,695
Speaker 5: invite them to come back and say, look, is this

1236
01:08:25,815 --> 01:08:28,335
Speaker 5: a concern. Do I need to do some remedial? The

1237
01:08:28,415 --> 01:08:30,175
Speaker 5: hard thing is what do you do about it? Right?

1238
01:08:31,535 --> 01:08:35,855
Speaker 5: Because essentially you're talking about peeling the lining off in

1239
01:08:36,095 --> 01:08:39,135
Speaker 5: order to put new adhesive in there, in which case

1240
01:08:39,175 --> 01:08:42,895
Speaker 5: you know you have to remove the doors. Then you

1241
01:08:43,455 --> 01:08:46,495
Speaker 5: perhaps you know you run the risk of damaging the

1242
01:08:46,575 --> 01:08:49,695
Speaker 5: doors or damaging the lining or damaging the substrate, and

1243
01:08:49,855 --> 01:08:53,015
Speaker 5: you start to go, you know what if That's why

1244
01:08:53,135 --> 01:08:54,975
Speaker 5: my first question was is it sealed at the top,

1245
01:08:55,015 --> 01:08:58,455
Speaker 5: because that's your biggest issue is water getting in behind there.

1246
01:08:58,535 --> 01:09:01,895
Speaker 5: So if that's well sealed, then I think it's relatively

1247
01:09:01,975 --> 01:09:06,895
Speaker 5: low risk. Okay, then yeah, good luck. You take care

1248
01:09:06,975 --> 01:09:08,695
Speaker 5: I get all of this, Bob out you a new

1249
01:09:08,735 --> 01:09:10,895
Speaker 5: SKS B. Let me see we were at with the brakes. Yep,

1250
01:09:10,935 --> 01:09:12,575
Speaker 5: we need to go to a break. Cynthia be with

1251
01:09:12,695 --> 01:09:13,495
Speaker 5: you straight after the.

1252
01:09:13,495 --> 01:09:16,375
Speaker 1: Break, whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with fence, or

1253
01:09:16,495 --> 01:09:18,415
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the wall.

1254
01:09:18,495 --> 01:09:22,775
Speaker 3: Do you have a feeder wolf cavicle on the resident

1255
01:09:22,815 --> 01:09:25,495
Speaker 3: builder on news dogs B your news.

1256
01:09:25,375 --> 01:09:29,255
Speaker 5: Talks, B and Cynthia are very very good morning to you.

1257
01:09:30,375 --> 01:09:31,095
Speaker 13: Good morning pea.

1258
01:09:31,215 --> 01:09:31,535
Speaker 5: By there.

1259
01:09:31,735 --> 01:09:35,775
Speaker 13: I have a laundry window seven sixty wide with two

1260
01:09:35,815 --> 01:09:39,615
Speaker 13: opening sashes at the top. It goes down to the floor,

1261
01:09:39,775 --> 01:09:41,975
Speaker 13: two opening stashes at the top, fixed panel down to

1262
01:09:42,055 --> 01:09:46,335
Speaker 13: the floor. I would like to replace that window so

1263
01:09:46,455 --> 01:09:48,975
Speaker 13: that I can put keeping the two sashes at the

1264
01:09:49,055 --> 01:09:54,735
Speaker 13: top the same, but I can get if I sorry,

1265
01:09:55,255 --> 01:10:00,295
Speaker 13: go ahead at the top, remove the fixed panels at

1266
01:10:00,335 --> 01:10:03,415
Speaker 13: the sorry, yeah, the fixed panel at the bottom. Yes,

1267
01:10:03,575 --> 01:10:07,015
Speaker 13: So I can put laundry cabinet tree on the inside

1268
01:10:07,615 --> 01:10:13,695
Speaker 13: and replace or repair the panels on the outside. I

1269
01:10:13,735 --> 01:10:17,495
Speaker 13: think it's linear weatherboard. Can I do that without consent?

1270
01:10:22,455 --> 01:10:24,695
Speaker 5: There's so many layers. I mean, I know it sounds

1271
01:10:24,735 --> 01:10:27,255
Speaker 5: like a really simple question, and in my mind I'm

1272
01:10:27,335 --> 01:10:30,135
Speaker 5: sort of going through a bit of a checklist, right going. Okay,

1273
01:10:31,255 --> 01:10:34,695
Speaker 5: so there is provision within the act sed you. One

1274
01:10:34,735 --> 01:10:37,975
Speaker 5: of the act that goes if let's say you've got

1275
01:10:37,975 --> 01:10:42,015
Speaker 5: a window like you've got and you want to change

1276
01:10:42,055 --> 01:10:46,255
Speaker 5: it to a door. For example, so you're twelve, how

1277
01:10:46,335 --> 01:10:50,575
Speaker 5: wide is the window roughly seven sixty seven sixty okay,

1278
01:10:50,615 --> 01:10:56,975
Speaker 5: so it's relatively narrow. So if, for example, you did

1279
01:10:57,095 --> 01:10:58,815
Speaker 5: just want to put in a taller window, or if

1280
01:10:58,815 --> 01:11:00,895
Speaker 5: you wanted to change that to a door and you

1281
01:11:00,975 --> 01:11:04,615
Speaker 5: were cutting through the cladding and redoing the flashings around

1282
01:11:04,655 --> 01:11:06,215
Speaker 5: it and put in a door, you could do that

1283
01:11:06,495 --> 01:11:12,095
Speaker 5: without necessarily requiring a building consent. But and so in

1284
01:11:12,175 --> 01:11:19,055
Speaker 5: that sense, changing the window and making the window shorter. Theoretically,

1285
01:11:19,615 --> 01:11:20,975
Speaker 5: you know, you'd look at that and you'd go, oh,

1286
01:11:21,175 --> 01:11:23,695
Speaker 5: I wonder if that's able to be done without a consent.

1287
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Speaker 5: But because you're working on the weather tightness and the

1288
01:11:28,375 --> 01:11:31,775
Speaker 5: envelope of the house by adding new weather boards, I

1289
01:11:31,935 --> 01:11:34,335
Speaker 5: wonder that whether the adding of the new weather boards

1290
01:11:34,495 --> 01:11:37,375
Speaker 5: is the part that would then require a building consent

1291
01:11:37,535 --> 01:11:41,375
Speaker 5: or trigger requirement for building consent. My sense is that

1292
01:11:41,535 --> 01:11:44,615
Speaker 5: you probably do need a building consent for that type

1293
01:11:44,615 --> 01:11:48,735
Speaker 5: of work. Now, you know which if you went to counsel,

1294
01:11:49,135 --> 01:11:52,495
Speaker 5: they requests some drawings, they'll want specifications. Da da da

1295
01:11:52,575 --> 01:11:54,735
Speaker 5: da da da da. We know that it's a sledgeham

1296
01:11:54,775 --> 01:11:59,055
Speaker 5: at a crack a nutt type situation, that it's relatively

1297
01:11:59,135 --> 01:12:04,135
Speaker 5: low risk work. But where it comes back and sort

1298
01:12:04,175 --> 01:12:06,815
Speaker 5: of bites you is, let's say you ahead and did

1299
01:12:06,855 --> 01:12:10,175
Speaker 5: the work without a building consent, and later on you

1300
01:12:10,255 --> 01:12:12,135
Speaker 5: go and sell the house and someone looks at the

1301
01:12:12,215 --> 01:12:15,175
Speaker 5: original consent plans held by counsel and the property file

1302
01:12:15,535 --> 01:12:17,975
Speaker 5: and they look at what's there and they notice the change,

1303
01:12:18,055 --> 01:12:20,735
Speaker 5: and then they go, Okay, I think that needed a consent.

1304
01:12:20,815 --> 01:12:21,415
Speaker 5: Did you get one?

1305
01:12:21,495 --> 01:12:21,615
Speaker 3: Though?

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01:12:21,655 --> 01:12:25,455
Speaker 5: I didn't. Do you have any record of information or

1307
01:12:25,655 --> 01:12:29,735
Speaker 5: about it. Well, no, not really, and then it'll become

1308
01:12:29,815 --> 01:12:32,335
Speaker 5: a oh, it's non consented work, and then you'll try

1309
01:12:32,375 --> 01:12:34,375
Speaker 5: and get a building consent later on, and that's a

1310
01:12:34,535 --> 01:12:37,695
Speaker 5: hell of a process, to be fair, doing a couple

1311
01:12:37,735 --> 01:12:40,095
Speaker 5: of those at the moment. So I wonder whether the

1312
01:12:40,975 --> 01:12:45,495
Speaker 5: one way forward is to go have someone do a

1313
01:12:45,615 --> 01:12:48,535
Speaker 5: basically explanation of what you're going to do, go to

1314
01:12:48,655 --> 01:12:52,335
Speaker 5: council and ask for an exemption, right because it's it

1315
01:12:52,495 --> 01:13:00,175
Speaker 5: is low risk work. And then if counsel acknowledge the

1316
01:13:00,215 --> 01:13:02,375
Speaker 5: fact that you're doing the job, and then the only

1317
01:13:02,455 --> 01:13:04,535
Speaker 5: other thing that you would probably need to pay some

1318
01:13:04,615 --> 01:13:07,055
Speaker 5: money to get someone to do is to get the

1319
01:13:07,215 --> 01:13:12,775
Speaker 5: original elevations of the house updated to show the new window, right,

1320
01:13:13,255 --> 01:13:16,375
Speaker 5: and they like do clouding around it saying this is

1321
01:13:16,495 --> 01:13:20,575
Speaker 5: now changed, and then there's some evidence. Because again it's

1322
01:13:20,735 --> 01:13:25,015
Speaker 5: now increasingly all about when you go to sell the house,

1323
01:13:25,375 --> 01:13:27,695
Speaker 5: does the house look like it's on the plans. It's

1324
01:13:27,855 --> 01:13:29,215
Speaker 5: just such a big issue at the moment.

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01:13:30,175 --> 01:13:33,535
Speaker 13: Yes, okay, And can that be done with just an

1326
01:13:33,575 --> 01:13:35,975
Speaker 13: inquiry to the council do you have to actually make

1327
01:13:35,975 --> 01:13:36,455
Speaker 13: an except?

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01:13:37,375 --> 01:13:40,495
Speaker 5: Look again, I think you're probably going to end up

1329
01:13:40,535 --> 01:13:43,815
Speaker 5: having to engage either an architect or an architectural drafts

1330
01:13:43,855 --> 01:13:47,255
Speaker 5: person to do that work. Maybe they would be a

1331
01:13:47,335 --> 01:13:49,855
Speaker 5: good person to go to council on your behalf with,

1332
01:13:50,455 --> 01:13:52,855
Speaker 5: so they could you know, they could do a simple

1333
01:13:52,975 --> 01:13:56,335
Speaker 5: drawing showing what you're going to do and how it's

1334
01:13:56,695 --> 01:13:59,575
Speaker 5: going to look. Once the work is completed, take that

1335
01:13:59,695 --> 01:14:03,415
Speaker 5: to council, go for an exemption. Once that's been granted

1336
01:14:03,415 --> 01:14:06,735
Speaker 5: and you've got something in writing from council, then go

1337
01:14:06,815 --> 01:14:08,735
Speaker 5: ahead and do the work. And of course the work

1338
01:14:08,775 --> 01:14:11,415
Speaker 5: has to be done as further building code, so you know,

1339
01:14:11,455 --> 01:14:13,335
Speaker 5: if there's a cavity there, you need to keep the

1340
01:14:13,415 --> 01:14:19,535
Speaker 5: cavity be interesting. Like ideally, you probably wouldn't want to

1341
01:14:19,655 --> 01:14:23,095
Speaker 5: have just a row of soakers because you're going to

1342
01:14:23,135 --> 01:14:26,135
Speaker 5: have a join right where new wheather boards are inserted

1343
01:14:26,135 --> 01:14:28,495
Speaker 5: where there was a window. And what you tend to

1344
01:14:28,615 --> 01:14:31,455
Speaker 5: end up with it's on most old houses where you've

1345
01:14:31,495 --> 01:14:34,735
Speaker 5: seen windows change, is you then but the weather boards

1346
01:14:34,735 --> 01:14:37,255
Speaker 5: together and you put a soka over the top. Now, linear,

1347
01:14:38,015 --> 01:14:40,855
Speaker 5: there are no soakers in the linear system. It's a

1348
01:14:41,055 --> 01:14:44,655
Speaker 5: tongue and groove junction on the butt joins. So how

1349
01:14:44,735 --> 01:14:47,935
Speaker 5: do you then deal with that and do linear as

1350
01:14:47,975 --> 01:14:52,215
Speaker 5: a system approve of the use of soakers where a

1351
01:14:52,415 --> 01:14:55,455
Speaker 5: non tongue and groove join has been done. So there

1352
01:14:55,535 --> 01:14:59,975
Speaker 5: is a little bit of complexity in it, right, Sorry

1353
01:15:00,015 --> 01:15:03,135
Speaker 5: to make what seems a really simple thing to do

1354
01:15:03,855 --> 01:15:05,775
Speaker 5: sound so damn complicated.

1355
01:15:06,735 --> 01:15:07,415
Speaker 9: It's quite right.

1356
01:15:08,775 --> 01:15:12,215
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, Yeah, absolutely, all right, all the very

1357
01:15:12,295 --> 01:15:17,175
Speaker 5: best to you, thank you, ok, here bye. Then, just

1358
01:15:17,335 --> 01:15:21,655
Speaker 5: on the popping screws thing, we had a painter stopper

1359
01:15:22,175 --> 01:15:26,255
Speaker 5: just text through Carl. He says, Look, we find that

1360
01:15:26,335 --> 01:15:28,855
Speaker 5: houses that have been framed up during the winter period

1361
01:15:28,935 --> 01:15:31,855
Speaker 5: and lined and painted through the earlier summer months and

1362
01:15:32,015 --> 01:15:35,135
Speaker 5: then have been locked up with no airfloor airflow have

1363
01:15:35,335 --> 01:15:37,855
Speaker 5: more issues of the popping screws, and this can happen

1364
01:15:37,895 --> 01:15:40,215
Speaker 5: over a period of a couple of years. We highly

1365
01:15:40,255 --> 01:15:42,975
Speaker 5: recommend that all properties have airflow through the summer months.

1366
01:15:43,055 --> 01:15:46,255
Speaker 5: If it's a new build, you can't leave these houses

1367
01:15:46,375 --> 01:15:49,655
Speaker 5: locked up with all of the heat. Our recommendation is

1368
01:15:49,735 --> 01:15:52,655
Speaker 5: that new homeowners to leave the windows on the second

1369
01:15:52,735 --> 01:15:55,735
Speaker 5: lock on the window handles to allow that constant airflow.

1370
01:15:55,975 --> 01:15:59,975
Speaker 5: I mean, houses are dynamic right as an environment, so

1371
01:16:00,495 --> 01:16:04,135
Speaker 5: you need to control and regulate that. And I think

1372
01:16:04,175 --> 01:16:10,655
Speaker 5: you're right again, like it. It's not great when it happens,

1373
01:16:10,735 --> 01:16:12,815
Speaker 5: and it really shouldn't happen. And I'm thinking back of

1374
01:16:12,895 --> 01:16:16,775
Speaker 5: jobs that I've done over the years where you might

1375
01:16:16,855 --> 01:16:19,095
Speaker 5: have one or two screws. You might put a thousand

1376
01:16:19,135 --> 01:16:21,775
Speaker 5: screws into the wall board lining, and one or two

1377
01:16:21,895 --> 01:16:24,535
Speaker 5: popping that might happen. More than that, it's not a

1378
01:16:24,575 --> 01:16:26,975
Speaker 5: good sign. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1379
01:16:27,095 --> 01:16:28,695
Speaker 5: number of cour will take short break be back with

1380
01:16:28,775 --> 01:16:29,455
Speaker 5: Brian in a moment.

1381
01:16:30,215 --> 01:16:32,375
Speaker 3: A squeaky door or squeaky floor.

1382
01:16:32,615 --> 01:16:35,895
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

1383
01:16:36,175 --> 01:16:37,895
Speaker 1: on newstalksb.

1384
01:16:39,215 --> 01:16:43,415
Speaker 5: A couple of quick texts just with regard to Cynthia's issue.

1385
01:16:43,535 --> 01:16:48,015
Speaker 5: Let's say so where she wants to physically remove the

1386
01:16:48,095 --> 01:16:51,375
Speaker 5: window and install some cabinetry. A number of people are

1387
01:16:51,415 --> 01:16:53,015
Speaker 5: on the same page where you're going, Hey, look, what

1388
01:16:53,095 --> 01:16:55,455
Speaker 5: about just doing a film on the window, or changing

1389
01:16:55,495 --> 01:16:58,735
Speaker 5: the glazing and or putting a board on the inside

1390
01:16:58,735 --> 01:17:01,415
Speaker 5: and then putting the cabinet tree there. Use the cabinetry

1391
01:17:01,455 --> 01:17:03,015
Speaker 5: for as long as you're in the house, and then

1392
01:17:03,175 --> 01:17:05,935
Speaker 5: later on if somebody doesn't like it, they can just

1393
01:17:06,055 --> 01:17:10,815
Speaker 5: take it out. Because it is kind of sad that

1394
01:17:10,855 --> 01:17:12,975
Speaker 5: we've got to that point where as soon as you say, oh,

1395
01:17:13,015 --> 01:17:17,135
Speaker 5: it needs a building consent, there's just this huge, oh,

1396
01:17:17,215 --> 01:17:20,615
Speaker 5: croaky and you know, it's arduous, right, and it's expensive,

1397
01:17:20,855 --> 01:17:25,815
Speaker 5: and it just seems like such a high barrier that

1398
01:17:25,935 --> 01:17:28,295
Speaker 5: people are inclined to go, oh, well, I can't be bothered.

1399
01:17:28,295 --> 01:17:30,855
Speaker 5: I'll just go ahead and do the work. I'm sure

1400
01:17:30,895 --> 01:17:35,735
Speaker 5: that if counsels made that process for relatively small jobs

1401
01:17:36,295 --> 01:17:41,975
Speaker 5: so much more adaptable or accessible, more people would do

1402
01:17:42,095 --> 01:17:43,975
Speaker 5: the right thing and go and get a consent. Because

1403
01:17:44,015 --> 01:17:47,295
Speaker 5: the general sense, and I've fallen into this category, I

1404
01:17:47,335 --> 01:17:50,015
Speaker 5: think I've sort of adopted this malaise as well. Where

1405
01:17:50,015 --> 01:17:52,775
Speaker 5: I'm going. It just seems like so much hard work

1406
01:17:52,815 --> 01:17:54,735
Speaker 5: to go and get a consent for something that's you know,

1407
01:17:55,215 --> 01:17:57,575
Speaker 5: for big, complex jobs fair enough, but for something as

1408
01:17:57,575 --> 01:18:00,215
Speaker 5: simple as I want to take a window out. I'm

1409
01:18:00,255 --> 01:18:02,855
Speaker 5: not expand I'm not impacting on the bracing. I'm not

1410
01:18:02,935 --> 01:18:05,175
Speaker 5: making the window wider. I'm not changing the lines or

1411
01:18:05,215 --> 01:18:07,695
Speaker 5: all of the things that are in the building code

1412
01:18:07,735 --> 01:18:10,535
Speaker 5: at the moment and in the Building Act around CHIDU one.

1413
01:18:10,575 --> 01:18:14,495
Speaker 5: I'm not making massive changes, and there should be a

1414
01:18:14,615 --> 01:18:18,695
Speaker 5: relatively straightforward way to ensure weather tightness. But it's still

1415
01:18:18,775 --> 01:18:22,095
Speaker 5: the process. I mean, it could be a couple of

1416
01:18:22,175 --> 01:18:28,175
Speaker 5: grands with a compliance for a thousand dollars job. That's

1417
01:18:28,175 --> 01:18:30,495
Speaker 5: where it gets a bit hard to cope with, isn't it.

1418
01:18:30,775 --> 01:18:33,175
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1419
01:18:33,215 --> 01:18:35,135
Speaker 5: to call? And a very good morning to you, Brian.

1420
01:18:36,495 --> 01:18:40,215
Speaker 6: Good morning, Brian. Are you there?

1421
01:18:40,735 --> 01:18:41,175
Speaker 8: Go for it?

1422
01:18:43,695 --> 01:18:43,815
Speaker 6: Yes?

1423
01:18:44,255 --> 01:18:50,215
Speaker 9: I am yeah, yeah, Brian here, Brian. Yeah, I'm painting

1424
01:18:50,375 --> 01:18:55,135
Speaker 9: my kitchen now, and I'm taking all the paint off

1425
01:18:55,175 --> 01:18:57,815
Speaker 9: the ceiling because it's all clak in the neck and

1426
01:18:59,415 --> 01:19:01,975
Speaker 9: and I just wondered if I got to put a

1427
01:19:02,055 --> 01:19:04,455
Speaker 9: seal on it, I could put a seal on it. Yes,

1428
01:19:05,015 --> 01:19:08,055
Speaker 9: they could in the kitchen and all that.

1429
01:19:08,295 --> 01:19:12,975
Speaker 5: You know, look, I think it's all the ceiling's already

1430
01:19:13,015 --> 01:19:14,015
Speaker 5: been painted, hasn't it.

1431
01:19:15,215 --> 01:19:19,215
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been painted before, Yeah, exact there for twenty years. Yep,

1432
01:19:19,495 --> 01:19:23,135
Speaker 9: so well done. It's time and I just thought, well,

1433
01:19:23,295 --> 01:19:26,615
Speaker 9: got it, you know, might prow a ceiling in there.

1434
01:19:27,615 --> 01:19:31,615
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like a really really thorough clean so

1435
01:19:31,935 --> 01:19:38,095
Speaker 5: with a proper indoor paint cleaner, clean it thoroughly, send it.

1436
01:19:38,375 --> 01:19:42,495
Speaker 5: I would apply a sealer, a pigmented seala over the

1437
01:19:42,735 --> 01:19:47,895
Speaker 5: entire surface, you would put a I would yep, and

1438
01:19:48,095 --> 01:19:51,295
Speaker 5: then I make sure that I'm using some kitchen or

1439
01:19:51,415 --> 01:19:54,415
Speaker 5: bathroom paint just to make it a bit more durable

1440
01:19:54,455 --> 01:19:56,135
Speaker 5: as well, like a water borne enamel.

1441
01:19:57,215 --> 01:19:57,415
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1442
01:19:57,495 --> 01:20:03,775
Speaker 9: Well, when we have done the bathroom, in the toilet

1443
01:20:03,895 --> 01:20:09,455
Speaker 9: and or share something, and we put that lining paper

1444
01:20:09,535 --> 01:20:13,815
Speaker 9: on the walls and oh, yeah, it's come up really good. Yeah, yep,

1445
01:20:14,175 --> 01:20:17,655
Speaker 9: it's coming really good. A lot of people go with

1446
01:20:17,735 --> 01:20:25,615
Speaker 9: the wallpaper, but I'd rather you put the shining paper

1447
01:20:25,695 --> 01:20:29,255
Speaker 9: on it. Yeah, it's come up really good.

1448
01:20:30,095 --> 01:20:32,335
Speaker 5: I think you've got it sorted, Brian. It'll be great.

1449
01:20:32,375 --> 01:20:35,415
Speaker 5: But on an old surfaces and a hard wearing area

1450
01:20:35,615 --> 01:20:38,575
Speaker 5: like kitchens and bathrooms, if you're stripping it back or

1451
01:20:38,695 --> 01:20:41,215
Speaker 5: sending it hard back cleaning it, I'd always go for

1452
01:20:41,255 --> 01:20:43,855
Speaker 5: a pigmented seal or it just binds everything together. That's

1453
01:20:43,975 --> 01:20:46,175
Speaker 5: that's the way that i'd go. Good luck to you, Brian,

1454
01:20:46,215 --> 01:20:47,935
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for your call. Coming up five

1455
01:20:47,975 --> 01:20:51,175
Speaker 5: minutes away from eight o'clock. In the next hour, of course,

1456
01:20:51,695 --> 01:20:54,535
Speaker 5: we will jump into the garden with a roid climb

1457
01:20:54,615 --> 01:20:57,655
Speaker 5: pass from eight point thirty, but we've got time straight

1458
01:20:57,695 --> 01:20:59,775
Speaker 5: after the news to take your calls. Can I just

1459
01:20:59,855 --> 01:21:02,655
Speaker 5: say again, I have just come back from dneed and

1460
01:21:02,695 --> 01:21:06,255
Speaker 5: I flew back up yesterday. Actually it was a beautiful flow.

1461
01:21:06,455 --> 01:21:10,735
Speaker 5: It was a fantastic day. And the flight path kind

1462
01:21:10,775 --> 01:21:14,015
Speaker 5: of takes you out of Dunedin along the coast, basically

1463
01:21:14,175 --> 01:21:18,935
Speaker 5: over Akaranga or Akaroa rather and then looping out towards

1464
01:21:19,015 --> 01:21:21,495
Speaker 5: Farewell Spit and you can see Wellington in the distance.

1465
01:21:21,695 --> 01:21:23,655
Speaker 5: A couple of things. One is I was looking down

1466
01:21:23,695 --> 01:21:25,335
Speaker 5: out of the plane. I had a window seat and

1467
01:21:25,415 --> 01:21:29,215
Speaker 5: I'm looking out going cheap is this is a stunningly

1468
01:21:29,255 --> 01:21:33,815
Speaker 5: beautiful country. We kind of, I don't know, maybe we

1469
01:21:33,895 --> 01:21:35,655
Speaker 5: get a bit complacent about it. But it was just

1470
01:21:36,135 --> 01:21:40,335
Speaker 5: looking down at banks Peninsua and Akara is just absolutely fantastic.

1471
01:21:40,415 --> 01:21:42,735
Speaker 5: Looking down at christ Church, then looking out at the

1472
01:21:42,775 --> 01:21:45,495
Speaker 5: Marlborough Sounds, it was just absolutely stunning. And then the

1473
01:21:45,495 --> 01:21:47,055
Speaker 5: how the thought I had is, you know, all this

1474
01:21:47,175 --> 01:21:49,855
Speaker 5: talk about mining and that we've got a big country

1475
01:21:50,975 --> 01:21:52,935
Speaker 5: hiding a couple of minds in there doing a bit

1476
01:21:52,975 --> 01:21:56,375
Speaker 5: of mineral exploration ain't going to change things that much. Also,

1477
01:21:56,455 --> 01:22:00,295
Speaker 5: had a fantastic time at the Asia factory so a

1478
01:22:00,415 --> 01:22:03,615
Speaker 5: sea make fireplaces, and I spent a very happy hour

1479
01:22:03,815 --> 01:22:07,695
Speaker 5: wandering through with Donna, who's phenomenally well. She runs the

1480
01:22:07,695 --> 01:22:10,135
Speaker 5: place basically, So we were looking at you know, the

1481
01:22:10,255 --> 01:22:13,335
Speaker 5: stamping machines and the lasers, and the guy does the welding,

1482
01:22:13,375 --> 01:22:15,375
Speaker 5: and the people doing the powder coding and the people

1483
01:22:15,415 --> 01:22:20,455
Speaker 5: assembling the components, and it was absolutely fantastic. And they

1484
01:22:20,575 --> 01:22:23,895
Speaker 5: export out of a little factory or decent sized factory

1485
01:22:24,095 --> 01:22:26,775
Speaker 5: and Dunedin. It was a great time. Righty oh, we're

1486
01:22:26,815 --> 01:22:29,175
Speaker 5: back after the new Sport Weather top of the at

1487
01:22:29,215 --> 01:22:29,655
Speaker 5: eight o'clock.

1488
01:22:36,495 --> 01:22:40,055
Speaker 1: We helping you get those DIY projects done right. The

1489
01:22:40,255 --> 01:22:45,335
Speaker 1: resident builder with peta Wolfcat call eight Youth Talk zebby.

1490
01:22:46,535 --> 01:22:48,175
Speaker 5: Well, a very good morning, welcome back to the show.

1491
01:22:48,295 --> 01:22:51,455
Speaker 5: It is coming up seven minutes after eight. We will

1492
01:22:51,535 --> 01:22:56,295
Speaker 5: talk building, construction, renovating DIY right through the late thirty.

1493
01:22:56,615 --> 01:22:58,175
Speaker 5: Then we're going to jump into the garden with her

1494
01:22:58,255 --> 01:23:01,055
Speaker 5: at climb past so we can talk all things gardening

1495
01:23:01,175 --> 01:23:04,295
Speaker 5: and the wonderful world of entomology as well. So if

1496
01:23:04,295 --> 01:23:07,055
Speaker 5: you've got any questions for Rid after eight thirty, of course,

1497
01:23:07,135 --> 01:23:09,215
Speaker 5: you can dial eight hundred eighty ten eighty if you

1498
01:23:09,295 --> 01:23:12,255
Speaker 5: dial eight hundred eighty ten eighty right now, which would

1499
01:23:12,255 --> 01:23:14,535
Speaker 5: be a great idea. We can talk all things building

1500
01:23:14,615 --> 01:23:19,215
Speaker 5: and construction, quite a few sort of painting questions, and

1501
01:23:19,255 --> 01:23:22,055
Speaker 5: a number of people responding to my comments about sort

1502
01:23:22,055 --> 01:23:25,375
Speaker 5: of hearing protection. So I'm very much looking forward to

1503
01:23:25,415 --> 01:23:30,855
Speaker 5: if I can get this interview sorted out around hearing protection.

1504
01:23:31,015 --> 01:23:35,015
Speaker 5: I guess the impact of hearing loss. I notice it

1505
01:23:35,135 --> 01:23:36,975
Speaker 5: actually to be blunt. I notice it even when I

1506
01:23:37,015 --> 01:23:40,495
Speaker 5: come into the studio here the volume that some people

1507
01:23:40,695 --> 01:23:44,135
Speaker 5: have the headphones on right and I typically have to

1508
01:23:44,215 --> 01:23:47,495
Speaker 5: come in and turn it right down because thankfully I've

1509
01:23:47,775 --> 01:23:50,375
Speaker 5: looked after my hearing and so I can still watch

1510
01:23:50,455 --> 01:23:53,135
Speaker 5: the television without it being on seventy five on the

1511
01:23:53,255 --> 01:23:56,775
Speaker 5: volume control. And part of this is sort of informed

1512
01:23:56,815 --> 01:24:01,215
Speaker 5: by my own experience growing up. Dad worked in we

1513
01:24:01,335 --> 01:24:05,455
Speaker 5: had a steel business. I used to see his ear mufs,

1514
01:24:05,535 --> 01:24:08,855
Speaker 5: but typically they just hanging on a nail near his workbench.

1515
01:24:09,455 --> 01:24:13,935
Speaker 5: I can't very rarely recall a time where he wore

1516
01:24:14,015 --> 01:24:17,135
Speaker 5: his EA muffs, and the impact of that was later

1517
01:24:17,255 --> 01:24:20,175
Speaker 5: on in retirement and when I was still living at home,

1518
01:24:20,535 --> 01:24:22,735
Speaker 5: you know, the TV was on really loud, and then

1519
01:24:22,815 --> 01:24:26,895
Speaker 5: later on you get that whole social dislocation. I think

1520
01:24:26,935 --> 01:24:28,935
Speaker 5: that comes along with hearing loss, so it is a

1521
01:24:28,975 --> 01:24:31,615
Speaker 5: big issue. Anyway, We're going to be talking with an audiologist,

1522
01:24:31,695 --> 01:24:36,855
Speaker 5: a proper experienced audiologist around hearing protection sometime in the

1523
01:24:36,895 --> 01:24:38,495
Speaker 5: next couple of weeks, so looking forward to that, a

1524
01:24:38,575 --> 01:24:41,895
Speaker 5: couple of quick texts. Any tips on how to remove

1525
01:24:41,975 --> 01:24:48,255
Speaker 5: thirty year old vinyl from a concrete foundation. Number one is,

1526
01:24:48,375 --> 01:24:50,735
Speaker 5: even if it's thirty years old, there is still a

1527
01:24:50,775 --> 01:24:55,015
Speaker 5: potential that has asbestos in it, so ACM, so aspecies

1528
01:24:55,055 --> 01:24:58,335
Speaker 5: containing material. So I would take a small piece, take

1529
01:24:58,335 --> 01:25:00,975
Speaker 5: it to a laboratory, get it tested if it comes

1530
01:25:01,055 --> 01:25:04,455
Speaker 5: back clear. And because you're doing it on a concrete flow,

1531
01:25:04,575 --> 01:25:06,735
Speaker 5: depending on the area that you're doing, you can actually

1532
01:25:06,775 --> 01:25:10,455
Speaker 5: get some machines which are like have a big blade

1533
01:25:10,535 --> 01:25:15,615
Speaker 5: but are powered almost like an old fashioned floor cleaner,

1534
01:25:15,735 --> 01:25:17,655
Speaker 5: you know, the Worthly ones that used to get and

1535
01:25:17,695 --> 01:25:20,055
Speaker 5: they've just got a blade that just jams it's souf

1536
01:25:20,135 --> 01:25:23,055
Speaker 5: underneath the lino. And because you're not too worried about

1537
01:25:23,135 --> 01:25:25,695
Speaker 5: damaging the concrete slab, you can use one of those.

1538
01:25:26,175 --> 01:25:30,615
Speaker 5: Otherwise you could use a rotary hammer drill with sort

1539
01:25:30,615 --> 01:25:32,295
Speaker 5: of a wide blade on it and try and just

1540
01:25:32,335 --> 01:25:34,895
Speaker 5: get underneath it. You can just use a broad knife

1541
01:25:34,935 --> 01:25:37,135
Speaker 5: as well, but the main thing is to get that

1542
01:25:38,495 --> 01:25:43,375
Speaker 5: material tested before you start ripping into it. From Greg

1543
01:25:43,535 --> 01:25:48,055
Speaker 5: gap filler for a Remoo window sills, we've got a

1544
01:25:48,135 --> 01:25:50,375
Speaker 5: gap where the sill meets the sash and want a

1545
01:25:50,495 --> 01:25:53,655
Speaker 5: sand and polyurethane on the top. The hard thing there

1546
01:25:53,775 --> 01:25:57,415
Speaker 5: is that gap filler typically is designed to be painted over,

1547
01:25:58,095 --> 01:26:01,775
Speaker 5: so if it's remou you don't want to use something

1548
01:26:01,855 --> 01:26:04,495
Speaker 5: that's going to jump out at you. I wonder whether

1549
01:26:05,895 --> 01:26:10,335
Speaker 5: you can get colored cork, often for flooring and so on,

1550
01:26:10,495 --> 01:26:13,415
Speaker 5: So if you've I would almost be inclined to do

1551
01:26:13,535 --> 01:26:17,655
Speaker 5: all my painting first and then neatly fill that gap

1552
01:26:18,175 --> 01:26:20,895
Speaker 5: with some colored cork at the end of the process,

1553
01:26:20,975 --> 01:26:23,095
Speaker 5: rather than something that you're going to apply a coating

1554
01:26:23,175 --> 01:26:26,295
Speaker 5: over the top, because some of those don't accept paint

1555
01:26:26,335 --> 01:26:29,775
Speaker 5: and you'll get a funny sort of bleeding that happens

1556
01:26:29,815 --> 01:26:33,015
Speaker 5: around the cork. So do the coating, then do the

1557
01:26:33,095 --> 01:26:36,375
Speaker 5: cork over the top. Pete, what's your thinking about tradesmen

1558
01:26:36,455 --> 01:26:38,375
Speaker 5: that put their radio on when coming to work so

1559
01:26:38,455 --> 01:26:40,895
Speaker 5: that everyone around the workforce has to put up with

1560
01:26:40,975 --> 01:26:44,495
Speaker 5: this intrusion. Please, my piece has been ruined by my

1561
01:26:44,615 --> 01:26:48,055
Speaker 5: neighbor's renovation. Your advice please, well, just get them to

1562
01:26:48,095 --> 01:26:52,095
Speaker 5: listen to ZB That's simple. I mean, nobody minds z

1563
01:26:52,255 --> 01:26:55,975
Speaker 5: be at ad decibel's from the neighbor's place, any of

1564
01:26:56,015 --> 01:26:59,695
Speaker 5: that untz untz stuff, And I can understand the upset. Look,

1565
01:27:00,295 --> 01:27:02,895
Speaker 5: I think you know, ideally we should be considerate, right,

1566
01:27:04,055 --> 01:27:06,655
Speaker 5: So no, if someone's got the radio balance on the

1567
01:27:06,735 --> 01:27:09,455
Speaker 5: fence and you get to hear all of their favorite

1568
01:27:09,535 --> 01:27:12,055
Speaker 5: music from the sixties and seventies or whatever you happen

1569
01:27:12,095 --> 01:27:14,215
Speaker 5: to be listening to, it's annoying. So I tend to

1570
01:27:14,255 --> 01:27:16,335
Speaker 5: go across and just go, hey, look, come on, seriously.

1571
01:27:18,055 --> 01:27:20,215
Speaker 5: Site radios in some cases have been banned. I know

1572
01:27:20,295 --> 01:27:23,455
Speaker 5: a couple of builders who just ban it because they

1573
01:27:23,695 --> 01:27:26,535
Speaker 5: are sick of the argument among the young fellas, so

1574
01:27:26,655 --> 01:27:31,295
Speaker 5: they just go that's it, no radios. Increasingly, people tend

1575
01:27:31,375 --> 01:27:37,095
Speaker 5: to have sound in their hearing protection, so I certainly do.

1576
01:27:37,215 --> 01:27:39,815
Speaker 5: I've got a couple of different brands. The ones that

1577
01:27:39,895 --> 01:27:42,375
Speaker 5: I wear most often are the muff Tech ones at

1578
01:27:42,415 --> 01:27:45,215
Speaker 5: the moment, So whether I'm mowing the lawns or banging

1579
01:27:45,335 --> 01:27:49,015
Speaker 5: nails or using the tables or whatever. I'll tend to

1580
01:27:49,055 --> 01:27:50,935
Speaker 5: have that on and then I can bluetooth and listen

1581
01:27:51,015 --> 01:27:55,135
Speaker 5: to my favorite podcasts while I'm working away. And that

1582
01:27:55,415 --> 01:27:58,735
Speaker 5: concerns nobody but me. So that's kind of where it's

1583
01:27:58,775 --> 01:28:01,495
Speaker 5: heating right now. But yeah, I think it's annoying if

1584
01:28:01,615 --> 01:28:03,655
Speaker 5: the radio's on and you don't like the music, and

1585
01:28:03,735 --> 01:28:07,215
Speaker 5: it's just if it's loud, it's annoying. And another quick text,

1586
01:28:08,095 --> 01:28:11,855
Speaker 5: does the Consumer Guarantees Act apply to building and construction companies?

1587
01:28:12,495 --> 01:28:15,775
Speaker 5: If so, does this circumvent some of those short warranty periods?

1588
01:28:16,135 --> 01:28:20,255
Speaker 5: Very good question, and yes, in general work is covered

1589
01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:24,935
Speaker 5: by the Consumer Guarantees Act, so it's not always just

1590
01:28:25,055 --> 01:28:28,735
Speaker 5: about the implied warranties around building work. But the Consumer

1591
01:28:28,775 --> 01:28:34,695
Speaker 5: Guarantees Act does come in as well. And someone else's

1592
01:28:34,735 --> 01:28:38,695
Speaker 5: text through about there's obviously a new schedule for development

1593
01:28:38,815 --> 01:28:42,375
Speaker 5: contributions for twenty twenty five, massive increases about to come

1594
01:28:42,455 --> 01:28:46,695
Speaker 5: in for example, and Tommicky it goes from thirty two

1595
01:28:46,815 --> 01:28:49,575
Speaker 5: thousand to one hundred and nineteen thousand. This is absolutely

1596
01:28:49,615 --> 01:28:52,295
Speaker 5: absurd according to Dave Well. That does seem like an

1597
01:28:52,375 --> 01:28:56,575
Speaker 5: extraordinary leap, doesn't it. I mean, if you're paying that

1598
01:28:56,735 --> 01:29:00,135
Speaker 5: amount extra onto a development. It's no wonder that houses

1599
01:29:00,175 --> 01:29:02,775
Speaker 5: are not affordable. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1600
01:29:02,855 --> 01:29:04,695
Speaker 5: the number of call. We'll take more of your text,

1601
01:29:04,735 --> 01:29:06,895
Speaker 5: but we'll get to the calls as well. Jerry, good morning,

1602
01:29:08,255 --> 01:29:09,055
Speaker 5: Good morning Pete.

1603
01:29:10,895 --> 01:29:13,655
Speaker 6: You know you have about a nineteen twenties house. Yep.

1604
01:29:13,815 --> 01:29:16,855
Speaker 6: I have a very small pitcheen and it's got a

1605
01:29:16,935 --> 01:29:19,335
Speaker 6: door that leads through to the dining room, but there's

1606
01:29:19,335 --> 01:29:24,055
Speaker 6: no door on it. I'm thinking about taking this wall out. Yes,

1607
01:29:24,215 --> 01:29:28,495
Speaker 6: now it's the boarding wall. Obviously I need to put

1608
01:29:28,495 --> 01:29:31,775
Speaker 6: a beam across to take the roof trusses that hold

1609
01:29:31,775 --> 01:29:35,455
Speaker 6: the roof up. Yes, what do I need consent to

1610
01:29:35,575 --> 01:29:35,815
Speaker 6: do this?

1611
01:29:37,295 --> 01:29:40,335
Speaker 5: Yeah, as soon as it's if it's load bearing right

1612
01:29:41,895 --> 01:29:44,895
Speaker 5: then yes, Council want to make sure that you've looked

1613
01:29:44,935 --> 01:29:47,855
Speaker 5: at all of the you know, the possible bad things

1614
01:29:47,895 --> 01:29:50,415
Speaker 5: that will happen. The ceiling is going to collapse or

1615
01:29:50,455 --> 01:29:53,735
Speaker 5: the building's going to rack because you've taken out all

1616
01:29:53,735 --> 01:29:56,655
Speaker 5: the bracings. So it's typically the load that it's carrying,

1617
01:29:57,095 --> 01:29:59,655
Speaker 5: the span of the lintel and whether or not there's

1618
01:29:59,655 --> 01:30:03,335
Speaker 5: some bracing in there as well. So yes, that does

1619
01:30:03,575 --> 01:30:04,895
Speaker 5: require a building consent.

1620
01:30:06,655 --> 01:30:10,895
Speaker 6: Now if it's not load bearing? Do I need consent.

1621
01:30:13,855 --> 01:30:18,375
Speaker 5: If it's not load bearing and it's not bracing now, yeah,

1622
01:30:18,455 --> 01:30:21,255
Speaker 5: it's a nineteen twenties house, right you are. You are

1623
01:30:21,335 --> 01:30:25,055
Speaker 5: not going to find bracing calculations on a nineteen twenties house.

1624
01:30:25,495 --> 01:30:28,495
Speaker 5: So typically bracing back then was maybe a bit of

1625
01:30:28,535 --> 01:30:32,775
Speaker 5: fourmer one let into the frames, typically on the outside petitions,

1626
01:30:32,895 --> 01:30:36,695
Speaker 5: not often on the inside. And you know on the

1627
01:30:36,815 --> 01:30:39,335
Speaker 5: sections of wall that are left or are you taking

1628
01:30:39,375 --> 01:30:41,895
Speaker 5: it off sort of right across so there's nothing left

1629
01:30:41,935 --> 01:30:42,975
Speaker 5: of that wall at all.

1630
01:30:45,815 --> 01:30:49,295
Speaker 6: Take it right across from the doorframe against the firewall,

1631
01:30:49,375 --> 01:30:53,015
Speaker 6: right to the other side. It's probably about two meters.

1632
01:30:53,575 --> 01:30:57,695
Speaker 5: Yes, having have you been able to have a look

1633
01:30:57,735 --> 01:30:58,935
Speaker 5: inside the roof space.

1634
01:30:59,575 --> 01:31:01,575
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean this is why I thought I

1635
01:31:01,615 --> 01:31:04,055
Speaker 6: should go up there a look before I ring. Now,

1636
01:31:04,375 --> 01:31:06,695
Speaker 6: we had a builder's wife over for dinner last night

1637
01:31:07,135 --> 01:31:09,375
Speaker 6: and he said, why don't you just cut a big hole,

1638
01:31:10,455 --> 01:31:13,335
Speaker 6: leave the door frame and everything in there. Cut a

1639
01:31:13,335 --> 01:31:17,375
Speaker 6: great big hole. Well, there's two. There's two. There's cupboards

1640
01:31:17,375 --> 01:31:20,535
Speaker 6: on the top half, yeah, and a bench and covers underneath.

1641
01:31:20,975 --> 01:31:23,015
Speaker 6: Now we take the cupboards out from the top half,

1642
01:31:23,135 --> 01:31:27,975
Speaker 6: but leave the bench and the cupboard and cut like

1643
01:31:28,055 --> 01:31:29,815
Speaker 6: a big window without a window in it.

1644
01:31:30,215 --> 01:31:33,335
Speaker 5: Yes, but in effect that's the same as taking the

1645
01:31:33,415 --> 01:31:36,175
Speaker 5: wall out right, because you've still got this big unsupported

1646
01:31:36,255 --> 01:31:39,575
Speaker 5: span that you need to prop up somehow. So you

1647
01:31:40,015 --> 01:31:43,575
Speaker 5: will need to install a lintel of some description. Whether

1648
01:31:43,655 --> 01:31:46,455
Speaker 5: you opt to install that in the roof space and

1649
01:31:46,575 --> 01:31:50,175
Speaker 5: support the roof rafters or the ceiling joists that way,

1650
01:31:50,695 --> 01:31:52,975
Speaker 5: or you simply put the beam underneath and they can

1651
01:31:53,055 --> 01:31:56,135
Speaker 5: rest on it. It really does depend. Is it load bearing,

1652
01:31:56,935 --> 01:32:01,615
Speaker 5: is it bracing? And what happens if it is load bearing?

1653
01:32:01,735 --> 01:32:06,095
Speaker 5: Definitely needs a building consent. So yeah, okay, get an

1654
01:32:06,095 --> 01:32:07,815
Speaker 5: our be p to have a look, or a designer

1655
01:32:07,895 --> 01:32:10,295
Speaker 5: to come and have a quick look. And they're pretty

1656
01:32:10,335 --> 01:32:12,975
Speaker 5: straightforward houses, right, you'll soon tell whether or not the

1657
01:32:13,055 --> 01:32:13,975
Speaker 5: wall's load bearing.

1658
01:32:14,095 --> 01:32:16,975
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, the wife's partner that was here.

1659
01:32:18,495 --> 01:32:20,015
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Oh, he should be able to give you

1660
01:32:20,095 --> 01:32:24,135
Speaker 5: some decent advice. The other thing is, even if you

1661
01:32:24,215 --> 01:32:26,895
Speaker 5: go ahead and do it, I would still get some

1662
01:32:27,095 --> 01:32:31,815
Speaker 5: paperwork that shows that you did due diligence right, that that.

1663
01:32:31,935 --> 01:32:33,695
Speaker 3: You considered before.

1664
01:32:33,895 --> 01:32:39,615
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I was reading through some property information

1665
01:32:39,975 --> 01:32:44,535
Speaker 5: for a client the other day, and and and sort

1666
01:32:44,575 --> 01:32:48,455
Speaker 5: of the it was a bathroom renovation that had been

1667
01:32:48,535 --> 01:32:50,895
Speaker 5: done and it didn't get a building consent, and I

1668
01:32:51,695 --> 01:32:53,935
Speaker 5: wonder whether, in fact they should have got a building

1669
01:32:54,015 --> 01:32:58,015
Speaker 5: consent for it because it included a tile shower, and

1670
01:32:58,335 --> 01:33:01,375
Speaker 5: so they had to produce a statement from the waterproofer. Great,

1671
01:33:01,455 --> 01:33:04,295
Speaker 5: they had effectively a p. S. Three from the plumber

1672
01:33:04,375 --> 01:33:06,695
Speaker 5: saying they'd done all the plumbing work to the building code,

1673
01:33:06,735 --> 01:33:10,335
Speaker 5: which is great. They had an explanation from the builder

1674
01:33:10,375 --> 01:33:13,295
Speaker 5: as to what had been done, which was good. What

1675
01:33:13,455 --> 01:33:16,215
Speaker 5: the builder didn't say is why they felt that it

1676
01:33:16,335 --> 01:33:20,215
Speaker 5: didn't need a building consent. And so now there's a

1677
01:33:20,295 --> 01:33:24,295
Speaker 5: difference of opinion around should it have had a building

1678
01:33:24,375 --> 01:33:27,175
Speaker 5: consent or shouldn't it And if it did require one

1679
01:33:27,335 --> 01:33:30,415
Speaker 5: and they didn't get one, then suddenly it becomes unauthrized work,

1680
01:33:30,415 --> 01:33:31,895
Speaker 5: and that becomes a real issue when you go to

1681
01:33:31,975 --> 01:33:32,455
Speaker 5: sell the house.

1682
01:33:33,695 --> 01:33:36,215
Speaker 6: Yeah, we did the bathroom about four years ago and

1683
01:33:36,295 --> 01:33:38,695
Speaker 6: didn't get any consent and didn't speak to the council

1684
01:33:38,775 --> 01:33:39,055
Speaker 6: at all.

1685
01:33:40,135 --> 01:33:48,375
Speaker 5: Now, possibly your word's not mine, all right, all the best,

1686
01:33:48,455 --> 01:33:54,935
Speaker 5: you take care bother them. Sort of legal you can

1687
01:33:55,055 --> 01:33:56,855
Speaker 5: use on site. You're not supposed to use on the radio.

1688
01:33:56,935 --> 01:33:58,575
Speaker 5: But I think we all know where he's coming from,

1689
01:33:59,495 --> 01:34:01,735
Speaker 5: right Pete. If a trade is working on my neighbors,

1690
01:34:02,535 --> 01:34:04,895
Speaker 5: it's just great people up there making a living. Turn

1691
01:34:04,935 --> 01:34:11,055
Speaker 5: the radio up, bloody, Karen's Andy, Well what about this one, hey, Pete?

1692
01:34:11,095 --> 01:34:13,135
Speaker 5: Read the building sites. How about seven o'clock on White

1693
01:34:13,135 --> 01:34:15,535
Speaker 5: Tonguy Day across the road from us. They wouldn't turn

1694
01:34:15,575 --> 01:34:18,455
Speaker 5: it down, So I rang, no noise control, job done, cheers.

1695
01:34:18,855 --> 01:34:20,775
Speaker 5: Chances are they shouldn't have been working on White Tonguy

1696
01:34:20,855 --> 01:34:26,975
Speaker 5: Day anyway. So typically building work and residential sites shouldn't

1697
01:34:27,055 --> 01:34:32,655
Speaker 5: happen on public holidays and on Sundays. So yeah, noise

1698
01:34:32,695 --> 01:34:35,775
Speaker 5: control had the same thing happened to me and the

1699
01:34:35,855 --> 01:34:40,295
Speaker 5: guys that were working with me years ago now, Because

1700
01:34:40,535 --> 01:34:42,695
Speaker 5: it's tough for tradees at this time of year, right,

1701
01:34:43,295 --> 01:34:45,935
Speaker 5: especially if you're self employed, if you're a contractor, and

1702
01:34:46,095 --> 01:34:49,335
Speaker 5: you've had Christmas, then you've had New Year, and then

1703
01:34:49,375 --> 01:34:51,615
Speaker 5: suddenly you get all these other public holidays in there

1704
01:34:51,655 --> 01:34:54,935
Speaker 5: as well, Auckland Anniversary Day, why Tonguy Day. There are

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01:34:54,935 --> 01:34:58,015
Speaker 5: all days that you're not getting paid, and by mid

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01:34:58,135 --> 01:35:01,495
Speaker 5: February it starts to hurt, right, so I think it

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01:35:01,615 --> 01:35:04,655
Speaker 5: was Auckland Anniversary. We were working through the summer break

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01:35:04,975 --> 01:35:06,775
Speaker 5: and one of the guys said, look, I I don't

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01:35:06,775 --> 01:35:08,655
Speaker 5: want another day off. I want to go and work.

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01:35:08,655 --> 01:35:10,455
Speaker 5: And I said, yeah, sure, there's things to do.

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01:35:10,615 --> 01:35:11,135
Speaker 8: You go for it.

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01:35:11,815 --> 01:35:15,055
Speaker 5: But about eleven o'clock on Auckland Anniversary day he rangs

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01:35:15,095 --> 01:35:17,615
Speaker 5: me and said, oh noise control of just come home

1714
01:35:17,695 --> 01:35:20,335
Speaker 5: told me that I'm not allowed to work and I'm off.

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01:35:22,975 --> 01:35:25,615
Speaker 5: I don't think he was using radio either. Oh eight

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01:35:25,735 --> 01:35:32,535
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Can

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01:35:32,615 --> 01:35:34,375
Speaker 5: he please finish what you're about to say about whether

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01:35:34,455 --> 01:35:36,415
Speaker 5: or not you consider an internal wall and one hundred

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01:35:36,495 --> 01:35:42,415
Speaker 5: year old bracing or not. What I'm saying is that

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01:35:43,575 --> 01:35:45,855
Speaker 5: you know bracing as we do it today in terms

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01:35:45,895 --> 01:35:49,415
Speaker 5: of calculation bracing units. We've got a grid pattern, we've

1722
01:35:49,535 --> 01:35:52,495
Speaker 5: laid it out, we've indexed the walls by going you know,

1723
01:35:52,575 --> 01:35:58,535
Speaker 5: ABC one, two three. Adding bracing details to all of

1724
01:35:58,655 --> 01:36:04,735
Speaker 5: those lines across a building plan is not what you'd

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01:36:04,775 --> 01:36:07,095
Speaker 5: find in the nineteen twenties house. When you pull them apart.

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01:36:07,535 --> 01:36:10,495
Speaker 5: You might find that on exterior walls in particular, they

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01:36:10,615 --> 01:36:13,295
Speaker 5: might have let in a bit of four but one

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01:36:13,855 --> 01:36:16,455
Speaker 5: you know, notched it into the frames and that gives

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01:36:16,455 --> 01:36:19,295
Speaker 5: a bit of bracing. You might find some noogs that

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01:36:19,375 --> 01:36:21,855
Speaker 5: are done on a diagonal, which will also provide some

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01:36:21,975 --> 01:36:26,615
Speaker 5: bracing typically internally, not so much for bungalows, but certainly

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01:36:26,815 --> 01:36:30,655
Speaker 5: for villas. The sarking, the twelve by half inch rough

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01:36:30,695 --> 01:36:33,575
Speaker 5: saw and poards they provide some bracing, and so I'm

1734
01:36:33,575 --> 01:36:35,775
Speaker 5: always mindful of if we're going to take those out,

1735
01:36:36,175 --> 01:36:39,695
Speaker 5: what am I going to do to replace the bracing

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01:36:39,855 --> 01:36:43,255
Speaker 5: in a de facto sense in there. My go to

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01:36:43,455 --> 01:36:46,055
Speaker 5: has been typically when I'm working on older houses where

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01:36:46,535 --> 01:36:49,095
Speaker 5: it's permitted to remove the linings and all the rest

1739
01:36:49,095 --> 01:36:51,375
Speaker 5: of it, as I nail everything off as a brace.

1740
01:36:51,975 --> 01:36:55,095
Speaker 5: It's really simple. So you just screw fix everything as

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01:36:55,175 --> 01:36:58,495
Speaker 5: a GS one or a GS two brace everywhere throughout

1742
01:36:58,535 --> 01:37:01,015
Speaker 5: the house. If you want to up it and use

1743
01:37:01,055 --> 01:37:02,935
Speaker 5: some braceline or something like that, that's a good idea

1744
01:37:02,975 --> 01:37:05,575
Speaker 5: as well. It's a kind of belt and braces approach.

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01:37:05,655 --> 01:37:07,615
Speaker 5: But you know, if you're going to take out a

1746
01:37:07,615 --> 01:37:09,975
Speaker 5: big chunk of wall, that wall's doing something. It's there

1747
01:37:10,015 --> 01:37:12,015
Speaker 5: for a reason, and so you've got to think about

1748
01:37:12,015 --> 01:37:14,855
Speaker 5: what that reason is in terms of load bearing or bracing,

1749
01:37:15,015 --> 01:37:17,455
Speaker 5: and make sure that you've got you've made provision to

1750
01:37:17,615 --> 01:37:20,935
Speaker 5: substitute those elements when that wall is removed. That's the

1751
01:37:20,975 --> 01:37:23,135
Speaker 5: whole point about it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1752
01:37:23,175 --> 01:37:26,255
Speaker 5: eighty is the number. Pete had radio problem with an

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01:37:26,295 --> 01:37:29,055
Speaker 5: employer twenty years ago who told me that he couldn't

1754
01:37:29,215 --> 01:37:33,215
Speaker 5: have his radio blearing. Oh, if he couldn't have his

1755
01:37:33,375 --> 01:37:35,775
Speaker 5: radio blaring all day, he wouldn't work for me. I

1756
01:37:35,855 --> 01:37:38,335
Speaker 5: showed him where the gate was and wished him and

1757
01:37:38,535 --> 01:37:42,415
Speaker 5: his radio a happy life. Colin, thank you. It was

1758
01:37:42,455 --> 01:37:44,815
Speaker 5: so much simpler back then in terms of showing people

1759
01:37:44,855 --> 01:37:46,695
Speaker 5: the door, wasn't it. I read that article about a

1760
01:37:47,175 --> 01:37:49,815
Speaker 5: young fellow who was a working for a fencing contractor

1761
01:37:49,855 --> 01:37:52,135
Speaker 5: in the South Island, who was on his phone quite

1762
01:37:52,135 --> 01:37:55,375
Speaker 5: a lot, and the boss told him in no uncertain

1763
01:37:55,455 --> 01:37:59,775
Speaker 5: language to pack up and go home. He then took

1764
01:37:59,855 --> 01:38:02,415
Speaker 5: him to the employment court, and I think the employer

1765
01:38:04,055 --> 01:38:05,935
Speaker 5: kind of fell that that got him on a technicality.

1766
01:38:05,975 --> 01:38:08,615
Speaker 5: He was working on a trial, but he didn't have

1767
01:38:08,615 --> 01:38:12,135
Speaker 5: an employment contract, and therefore the employer was fined fifteen

1768
01:38:12,255 --> 01:38:15,775
Speaker 5: hundred dollars for sacking him. I don't think he's actually

1769
01:38:15,815 --> 01:38:17,735
Speaker 5: fine for sacking him. He's just fine for having him

1770
01:38:17,775 --> 01:38:20,975
Speaker 5: working without an employment contract, even if he was on trial.

1771
01:38:21,415 --> 01:38:24,335
Speaker 5: But yeah, I look, if I trigger you on that

1772
01:38:24,455 --> 01:38:26,935
Speaker 5: particular topic, we'll have a bunch of text, won't it.

1773
01:38:27,775 --> 01:38:30,455
Speaker 5: How you know, if you're employing contractors, Oh, this could

1774
01:38:30,495 --> 01:38:34,375
Speaker 5: be a great topic for talkback one night. If you're

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01:38:34,375 --> 01:38:40,215
Speaker 5: employing contractors, you kind of expect that the boss, right,

1776
01:38:40,295 --> 01:38:42,535
Speaker 5: the head guy might be on his phone or her

1777
01:38:42,655 --> 01:38:45,895
Speaker 5: phone for a while. But if you see the workers

1778
01:38:46,095 --> 01:38:49,135
Speaker 5: on their phone while they're working for you, how do

1779
01:38:49,215 --> 01:38:51,615
Speaker 5: you feel about that? I'm going to drop that little

1780
01:38:51,615 --> 01:38:54,255
Speaker 5: bombshell and run off into the garden with red climb pass.

1781
01:38:54,295 --> 01:38:56,775
Speaker 5: There you go, there's something to wind people up about.

1782
01:38:57,255 --> 01:38:59,535
Speaker 5: It is twenty two minutes after eight. We'll take a

1783
01:38:59,575 --> 01:39:01,895
Speaker 5: short break. We'll be back with we can take one

1784
01:39:01,975 --> 01:39:04,055
Speaker 5: more call if you rush otherwise, I think we'll get

1785
01:39:04,135 --> 01:39:06,535
Speaker 5: rid of early and we'll jump into the garden back

1786
01:39:06,575 --> 01:39:06,775
Speaker 5: in a.

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01:39:06,775 --> 01:39:10,815
Speaker 1: Moment measure twice God was but maybe called Pete first?

1788
01:39:10,975 --> 01:39:13,655
Speaker 1: Do you walk caft the resident builder news talks?

1789
01:39:13,655 --> 01:39:13,935
Speaker 2: That'd be.

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01:39:16,815 --> 01:39:19,375
Speaker 5: Oh, I feel that I've just dropped this little you know,

1791
01:39:21,015 --> 01:39:24,015
Speaker 5: sniff that into the conversation that we could talk about

1792
01:39:24,055 --> 01:39:25,175
Speaker 5: for hours. Ross Caday.

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01:39:25,895 --> 01:39:32,295
Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, guys, this use of public mobile phones and

1794
01:39:32,415 --> 01:39:34,775
Speaker 17: the internet in your boss's time, I just view it

1795
01:39:34,855 --> 01:39:39,455
Speaker 17: as theft. You're feeding your boss's time. It's his time,

1796
01:39:39,575 --> 01:39:44,255
Speaker 17: he pays you, and you've got a smoko and lunchtime

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01:39:44,335 --> 01:39:47,735
Speaker 17: to conduct private calls. And I guarantee most of the

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01:39:47,775 --> 01:39:52,135
Speaker 17: people that did steal bosses time don't make it up

1799
01:39:52,215 --> 01:39:55,135
Speaker 17: after work in their own hours, So why shouldn't it

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01:39:55,215 --> 01:39:56,095
Speaker 17: be viewed as theft?

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01:39:57,655 --> 01:39:59,135
Speaker 5: Look, you know what, You're not going to get an

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01:39:59,215 --> 01:40:01,375
Speaker 5: argument from me. I'm not sure that i'd describe it

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01:40:01,415 --> 01:40:04,735
Speaker 5: as theft, but I certainly and I was conscious of it.

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01:40:04,935 --> 01:40:07,415
Speaker 5: You know, back in when I was running a group

1805
01:40:07,495 --> 01:40:10,215
Speaker 5: of guys and we're on site at a person's house

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01:40:10,575 --> 01:40:13,575
Speaker 5: and they're essentially either they're paying us by the hour

1807
01:40:13,655 --> 01:40:16,455
Speaker 5: if it's a charge up job, or I'm paying my

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01:40:16,575 --> 01:40:18,935
Speaker 5: guys by the hour, and I've worked out how many

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01:40:18,975 --> 01:40:21,135
Speaker 5: hours we need to do the job. And if you

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01:40:21,255 --> 01:40:24,655
Speaker 5: look out and every twenty minutes someone's got their phone

1811
01:40:24,695 --> 01:40:28,095
Speaker 5: out and they're scrolling their latest Instagram or something like that, yeah,

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01:40:28,175 --> 01:40:29,455
Speaker 5: I'm going to have a word to them and go

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01:40:29,695 --> 01:40:32,215
Speaker 5: I'm sorry I'm not paying you to be on your phone.

1814
01:40:32,255 --> 01:40:35,375
Speaker 5: I'm paying you to work. And I'm sure though for clients,

1815
01:40:35,415 --> 01:40:37,455
Speaker 5: you know, like, if I'm the guy running the job,

1816
01:40:37,655 --> 01:40:40,935
Speaker 5: then part of my job is to organize, and these

1817
01:40:41,055 --> 01:40:43,215
Speaker 5: days you do that with your phone. So if I'm

1818
01:40:43,295 --> 01:40:45,375
Speaker 5: chatting away on the phone, I can imagine that it's

1819
01:40:45,415 --> 01:40:49,415
Speaker 5: a frustrating image for the client to see. But if

1820
01:40:49,455 --> 01:40:52,255
Speaker 5: I'm on the phone organizing the concrete and the delivery

1821
01:40:52,295 --> 01:40:55,775
Speaker 5: and the subcontractors and chasing up materials and booking inspections,

1822
01:40:56,135 --> 01:40:57,095
Speaker 5: that's part of my job.

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01:40:57,215 --> 01:41:00,375
Speaker 3: But typically no problem with that.

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01:41:00,575 --> 01:41:01,215
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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01:41:01,415 --> 01:41:08,015
Speaker 17: People constantly on the phone. An't sure whatever I mean,

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01:41:08,055 --> 01:41:09,575
Speaker 17: it's it's blatant theft.

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01:41:10,095 --> 01:41:12,215
Speaker 6: Oh look and should be beauty as such.

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01:41:12,655 --> 01:41:14,375
Speaker 5: You're not going to You're not going to get a

1829
01:41:14,375 --> 01:41:18,895
Speaker 5: disagreement from me on that one. All nice to talk, lovely.

1830
01:41:19,535 --> 01:41:22,575
Speaker 5: We might raise this again. Is a bit of a topic.

1831
01:41:22,655 --> 01:41:25,055
Speaker 5: I know it's it's sort of building related, but it isn't.

1832
01:41:25,095 --> 01:41:27,455
Speaker 5: But you know, that's the thing. If you're a client

1833
01:41:27,615 --> 01:41:30,535
Speaker 5: and we've got we've always got friends who are renovating.

1834
01:41:30,535 --> 01:41:32,175
Speaker 5: We've got some friends who are renovating at the moment,

1835
01:41:32,295 --> 01:41:34,895
Speaker 5: and you know, One of the things that they are

1836
01:41:34,975 --> 01:41:37,175
Speaker 5: starting to get a bit upset about is one of

1837
01:41:37,215 --> 01:41:40,695
Speaker 5: the tradees as a smoker. Now that's that's their decision

1838
01:41:40,775 --> 01:41:45,095
Speaker 5: to do that. But if they stop, you know, once

1839
01:41:45,135 --> 01:41:47,615
Speaker 5: an hour to sort of sit down and have a

1840
01:41:47,655 --> 01:41:49,335
Speaker 5: cigarette or something like that, then you kind of go,

1841
01:41:50,535 --> 01:41:53,135
Speaker 5: do I want to be paying for that? Not really,

1842
01:41:53,575 --> 01:41:55,655
Speaker 5: And that would be no different if they just sat

1843
01:41:55,735 --> 01:41:59,615
Speaker 5: down and started scrolling through their Instagram messages to see

1844
01:41:59,655 --> 01:42:02,815
Speaker 5: whether they've gone off what is it going off? Blowing

1845
01:42:02,895 --> 01:42:05,175
Speaker 5: up on socials? You know that they've done a post

1846
01:42:05,215 --> 01:42:07,295
Speaker 5: and they're checking whether they're on up on socials, and

1847
01:42:07,855 --> 01:42:09,975
Speaker 5: you don't want to be paying for that anyway. On

1848
01:42:10,135 --> 01:42:12,575
Speaker 5: that happy note about building, we're going to jump into

1849
01:42:12,615 --> 01:42:15,095
Speaker 5: the garden. Rid Climb Past is standing by. If you'd

1850
01:42:15,215 --> 01:42:17,335
Speaker 5: like to talk to Rudd call us right now. Oh

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01:42:17,375 --> 01:42:20,455
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty viewing.

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01:42:20,335 --> 01:42:22,655
Speaker 1: Up the house storting the garden, asked Pete for a

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01:42:22,735 --> 01:42:25,535
Speaker 1: hand the resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp.

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01:42:25,655 --> 01:42:28,415
Speaker 3: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen

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