1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: It's Prime Minister Tuesday. Krystph Luxe's well, that's very good 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: morning to you. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Good morning Mike Cayk you very well. 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Indeed, how was your holiday and where'd you go? 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: I had a good five days. I ended up in 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Hawaii and that was absolutely fantastic. Actually I got a 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: bit of reading in and a bit of relaxing and 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: it's been sort of the first big break up there 9 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: for a while, so it was great, good stuff. 10 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: Rob Campbell was on the program earlier, Deborah Powell on 11 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: another program earlier than that, and this is feedback to 12 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: what you did yesterday with health in New Zealand. A 13 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: couple of points he made that I thought irrelevant that 14 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: you didn't quite explain yesterday. Where are the Ministry of 15 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Health in this? You can't go from you know, we 16 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: might make a bit of a surplus to we're losing 17 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty million dollars a month without somebody somewhere, 18 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: I e. The Ministry going alarm Bell's red flag, let's 19 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: go whop warp pull up? Where were they? 20 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: Well, we expect them will. Actually to be honest, we 21 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: got advice from the Crown Observer that we had in 22 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: place we put in place. In the first few weeks, 23 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: we've had to ordered a general report and there was 24 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: the annual report from the previous government which highlighted deficits. 25 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: So I think everybody's knowing that there hasn't been enough 26 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: controls around this organization. You know, that is our responsibility 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: to make sure that Health Newsum is set up for 28 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: the success that it needs to. With respect to the Ministry, 29 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: we also expect them to play their part and delivering 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: that those five big health goals with Crawdysel. 31 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Were they well, I mean, are they awake? 32 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: Well? The people that are responsible is ultimately the Minister 33 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: and us making sure that we've got good governance of 34 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: the major delivery organization, which is health in New Zealand. 35 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: We spend thirty billion dollars on health in New Zealand. 36 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: We've put a record amount sixteen point seven and there's 37 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: plenty of money and funding. What we need is a 38 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: high performing organization and they says it and it's not 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: it because the organization's out of shape. This two and 40 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: a half thousand more managers and there were six years 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: ago despite having a midge twenty d HB. There's forcing 42 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: layers of management from CEO to patient. The financial performance 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: you've talked about, and you know, frankly, you know, we 44 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: put more money in, more people, and then we've got 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: worse results on wait times. 46 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Can't I guess get all that? But when were you 47 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: alluded to the fact they were losing one hundred and 48 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: thirty a month? 49 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: Well, it was actually in October last year, October previous government, 50 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: there was a what's called an annual report and that 51 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: identified a billion dollar deficit at that point in time. 52 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: Within a couple of weeks in December eighteenth or somewhere 53 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: around before Christmas, Chaney put in place a crowd of 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: deerver on the board, and then we've had the Order 55 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: of General report in March. We've put more money and 56 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: obviously in this budget, but what we want to make 57 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: sure is we're getting the organization straight. 58 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Why don't you need the front mind, Chris? Why when 59 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: you knew something was awry in October, are we sitting 60 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: here in July only acting on it. 61 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: Well, we got into power, we've got gone into office. 62 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: Obviously at the end of November, we put. 63 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: Okay, January five, Why didn't you do it January five? 64 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: Well, we had we've been we've had a serious escalections 65 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: and now we're doing it. 66 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: A series of esculations at one hundred and thirty million 67 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: dollars a month January, February, March, April, May, June, one 68 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: thirty times. You do the numbers. Why are you acting now? 69 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: Ob acting? Because we're getting it done and we're putting 70 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: place a commissioner who's going to have great year. 71 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Why were you doing it in January February? 72 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: Well we have, we've been have but late just before Christmas, 73 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: in our first few weeks. 74 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: To put in a Crown observer, we've had to do 75 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: what you already knew it was buggered, then it's bugged it. 76 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got to have a bit more detail 77 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: before you make a big change that we're doing a 78 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: putting a commissioner that hasn't happened, that doesn't happen often when 79 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: you do that, you want to make sure you're doing 80 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: it right. 81 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: You've got the if we arrived to run the country 82 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: in October and somebody told me that one hundred and 83 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a month being lost, they'd be sacked 84 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: on the spot. 85 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: Right we started in early December. You know that we've 86 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: worked our way. 87 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: I'll give you this year. They've had seven this year 88 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: to do something you've not done. You're you're supposed to 89 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: be fixing this place up. You're too slow. 90 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, come on, give me a break. We're 91 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: moving at great speed here, and we're putting in place 92 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: a commissioner who's going to have powers over twelve months 93 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: and get things sorted. I've put more money into this thing. 94 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: We're hired more nurses and we've ever had In the 95 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: last six months, we've got two nine hundred more nurses 96 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: and we had a year ago record numbers there. We've 97 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: put record fund there in and we've put clear targets 98 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: in place. Now I'm just making sure the organization is 99 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: ruthlessly going to deliver against that. 100 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Why a commissioner in the specific set of circumstances as 101 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: opposed to say, Simon Mutat Kaying or a pull a 102 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: benet at farming. 103 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: Because of more urgency, more intensity is what we want. 104 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: You know, everyone you talk to in the system will 105 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: just say, look, I'm on the front line of the system. 106 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: I want a yes or no from my management whether 107 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: I can do something or not. And I get a 108 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: non decision and mush. And that is because there is 109 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: this layers and layers of management. And I'll tell you 110 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: why it happens, and it's happened across the board with 111 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: all the other tpoo kinger and the disability services as 112 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: they took the twenty DHBs and they whacked in massive 113 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: layers of management over the top, and that just has 114 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: calcified and slowed everything down. We need to move decision 115 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: making back to the front line as quickly as we 116 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: can reduce that span between the decision makers and the 117 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: front line. And you know, it's just been classic botched 118 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: restructure and so you know that's why the Commissioner has 119 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: to go in with real strong powers to actually be 120 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: sort of very very directive to get a different set 121 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: of results and outcomes very quickly. We need that organizational 122 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: model to be really sorted. You can't have layers of 123 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: management like that and bureaucracy. We need the finances to 124 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: be delivered because we've put record amounts of money in 125 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: and I'm not putting good money into a bad organization. 126 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm expecting a great organization to deliver the results we 127 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 2: want to see with that cash. 128 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Meridian yesterday for the second time in a couple of 129 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: weeks ask to you why to tone down their power usage? 130 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Why don't we have enough electricity in New Zealand in 131 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. 132 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: Well, one of the challenges we've got is we've got 133 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: some challenges around gas in particular, which is causing but 134 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: that is a really gas short ball is actually a 135 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: reality and is causing energy and security. That's a major 136 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: problem for us, in a major concern. We've started to 137 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: talk about it in the last few months. But that's 138 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: why we've got to repeal the oil and gas ban 139 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: as a starting point. And the second thing is we 140 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: need we need to bubble amount of electricity we've got 141 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: in this country to enjoyables. Investment will come, but there 142 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: are moments in time when obviously it's challenging and you 143 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: have to choke back to you that has always happened 144 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Electricity does make it right, doesn't make 145 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: it right. But I just say to you that when 146 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: I look around the world and I see massive failures 147 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: of energy sectors around the world, ours is fairly tidy, 148 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: not perfect, but fairly tidy. We need a lot more investment. 149 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: That's why we're doing fast track to get stuff actually else, 150 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: particularly the energy space and a renewable space. That's why 151 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: we're repealing the oil and gas ban because we need gas. 152 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: We're going to need it for a period of time. 153 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: It's going to be ten to fifteen percent of our 154 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: energy mix. And you know, when you're doing an oil 155 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: and gas ban and all of a sudden, no one's 156 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: getting gas out and we need it for a number 157 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: of places, it's a problem. 158 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: It just it sends all the wrong signals for a 159 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: government that's trying to do And this isn't your fault. 160 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying for a government that's trying to rebuild 161 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: this country and has a productivity issue, when you're constantly 162 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: asking people to do less, that's not a business model. 163 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: No, no, I agree, I agree. But the historical model 164 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: is with the big load that t Y puts on 165 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: than you doing electricity system, you know, there has always 166 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: been choking at key peak times. 167 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: Nobody's to make more power. Nobody saw, I know, we'll 168 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: build another dam or what you put some windmills year old? 169 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: You know, yep and yep, none, And that's what that's 170 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: what we're really hard to do. But how do you 171 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: get stuff done? Like I mean, you can't take eight 172 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: years to consent a wind farm, in two years to 173 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: build it and ten years before you've got the benefit 174 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: of it. You've got to say that's a one year 175 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: challenge and two years to build it. We get it 176 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: in three years. So we haven't helped ourselves by being 177 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: very strategic about things. 178 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: What we need are half a dozen commissioners in this 179 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: country to kick some mass and get this place going. 180 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: And enough of the democracy. I mean, look at Tower 181 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: on or over the weekend. You see that thirty one 182 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: percent turnover. People don't want democracy, do they? When given 183 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity, they can't be bothered? 184 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Well, look, I'll always send up for little democracy. I 185 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: agree with you like it can be a hell of 186 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: a lot better. And my mative folkmus is I think 187 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: you know, particularly central government which I'm responsible for, needs 188 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: to deliver a hell of a lot better than it 189 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: has been. And that's because you need to focus on 190 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: the new zeon people and need to focus on outcomes 191 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: and results. And I can tell you our culture change 192 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: is happening here in Wellncoln. We need to get our 193 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: CEO's understanding and our cheers and our boards understanding. You 194 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: have a massive responsibility to deliver results from these islanders. 195 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: That's why you see us make interventions and KO, that's 196 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: why you've seen us make interventions in healthy New Zealand 197 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: MZTA are other places as well. So make sure that 198 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: we actually are getting organization and leaders that are driving 199 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: and saying why they're here. They're not here to manage bureaucracy. 200 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: They're here to get things done. 201 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Hey, do you know what I liked about David Seymore's 202 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: acting Prime minister last week? 203 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: No? Tell me. 204 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: He told it like it was. Someone asked him a 205 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: question about the Reserve Bank and he told it like 206 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: it was. He said, we need relief. As Prime minister 207 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: this morning, do we need relief from the Reserve Bank 208 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: or not? 209 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. But we've got a job to do, 210 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: which is outside, which is get. 211 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: You've done your jobs saving money like the slow tomorrow. 212 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: We're pretty damn close. I mean, we've got to get 213 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: inflation below three percent and then I would expect interest 214 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: rates to be dropped, and then I would expect the 215 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: economy to grow and I expect employment to grow. 216 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: Expected interest rates to be dropped this year, Uh, well, 217 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: we're on track. 218 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: We had a inflation came down to three point three 219 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: and just sour food crest as the falling lily quickly, 220 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: interest rates to soften at the margins. But we finally 221 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: doing everything I can to get inflation below three and 222 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: then I'm expecting interest rates to drop, and then I'm 223 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: expecting that to make people want to dist and grow 224 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: our economy. Right. That keeps people on the work. 225 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: And Jared curses when they go. Corns of this, right, 226 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: Jared curses when they go they're going to go eight times? 227 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Eight times indicates to me that Adrian cocked it up? 228 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: Did he cock it up? 229 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: Well, we've we've had long conversations about I think they 230 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: kept the printing money for way too long. On the 231 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: on the other part of the cycle, I'm expecting a 232 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: rapid response once we've done our job, which is to 233 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: get in flashed on different drop. 234 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: All Right, as we go into the boot camp, which 235 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: has been launched as of this weekend, when will you 236 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: be able to come on this program? And to all 237 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: the naysayers and the whiners and the handwringers, say it worked. 238 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: Well. I mean we've got a there's three month residential program, 239 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: there's a nine month home component, to it. It's kicked off. 240 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: As you know, we've been very transparent about it. We 241 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: had the media and there on for the weekend having 242 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: a look at it all. You know, we should be 243 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: able to get feedback back in that first three months, 244 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: I would imagine. 245 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you appreciate it very much at 246 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Christoph luxon Prime Minister. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 247 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks at B from six am weekdays, 248 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.