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Speaker 2: It'd be as goodboding to you and welcome to your Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Coming up over the next sixty minutes, it's interest rate

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Speaker 2: The Big World story the US and Russia meat in

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia to discuss Ukraine. What happened. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk to Marco Rubio's former chief of staff in about

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Speaker 2: five minutes. Lydia Coe is our top sports person. But

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Speaker 2: dot NZ it's seven after five Wednesday, the nineteenth of February.

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Speaker 2: The big story. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, speaking

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Speaker 2: with Russia in Saudi Arabia, says the crucial meeting was

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Speaker 2: the first step of a long and difficult journey, but

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Speaker 2: an important one. The high level talks went on for

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Speaker 2: about four hours in Saudi Arabia and they agreed to

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Speaker 2: appoint teams to continue negotiating to end the war. Russian

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Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Sir Gey Levrov also says they will appoint

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Speaker 2: ambassadors to each other's countries as soon as possible.

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Speaker 3: The first agreement is not the most complicated. One is

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Speaker 3: to ensure the speediest possible appointments of ambassadors to remove

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Speaker 3: the barriers that for many years, first of all, the

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Speaker 3: our diplomatic missions and.

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Speaker 2: Mico Rubio stressed the fact that nobody's being sidelines in

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Speaker 2: these negotiations. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski has been meeting

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Speaker 2: with Turkey's president in Turkey's capital, Anchora. He says today

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Speaker 2: the pair discussed the global processes in great detail that

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Speaker 3: This war, Ukraine and in the broadest sense, Europe, Turkey

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Speaker 3: that concern our destiny in our part of the world.

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Speaker 2: Now to the Middle East and atop Hamas leader says

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Speaker 2: the militant group will release six living Israeli hostages on

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Speaker 2: the weekend and the bodies of four others in the

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Speaker 2: hostages who for many Israelis have embodied the captive's plight

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Speaker 4: Those b Bus boys have become really iconic symbols across

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Speaker 4: Israel of the brutality of the Hamas attack on the

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Speaker 4: seventh of October. They are on euro rules. They are

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Speaker 4: very much seen as symbolic off the seventh of October attack.

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Speaker 2: These young boys are the Ol Bibas and Kafie Bibas.

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Speaker 2: And finally, Pot Francis has begun his fifth day in

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Speaker 2: hospital for what doctors have described as a complex respiratory infection.

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Speaker 2: He will not take part of this weekend's Holy Year events.

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Speaker 2: The pontiff, who's eighty eight years old, has been suffering

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Speaker 2: from respiratory infection for more than a week. He was

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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens

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Speaker 2: It'd be now. The question I have for you and

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank is do you think inflation's under control?

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Speaker 2: Because in many ways it isn't. Last Friday, stats New

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Speaker 2: Zealand announced that food prices across New Zealand rose by

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Speaker 2: this because you pay this. The average price for a

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens and Wayne Brown's up for another stince as

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Speaker 2: He's come to see the logic of the improved rail service.

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Speaker 2: that waging a holy war against roade works and particularly

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Speaker 2: after five. So Matt Tarrell is the former chief of

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Speaker 2: staff from Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is doing the first

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened in that four hour meeting. It is

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Speaker 2: Sibby, Welcome on in. It's a quarter after five. So

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Speaker 2: the United States and Russia are going to appoint teams

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Speaker 2: with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia. Sergey Leverov, Russia's foreign minister,

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Speaker 3: We did not just listen to each other, but we

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Speaker 2: So what might have happened in that meeting. Marco Rubio's

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Speaker 2: of Matt Terrell. He's in Milwaukee, and Matt joins me.

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Speaker 5: Now, Hello, Matt, Hey, grig bere with you.

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Speaker 2: What do you think happened in that for our meeting.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll see what comes out of the reporting on it.

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Speaker 5: You know, what I can tell you is that it

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Speaker 5: appears to be a first step in terms of negotiations here,

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Speaker 5: particularly particularly with Russia. And so the bottom line here is,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's a first step.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Marco Rubio says, the peace is a verb, not

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Speaker 2: a noun, and it's all about incremental steps.

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Speaker 5: That's all right. Look, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: actually speak louder than words and support and have meetings

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Speaker 5: be at that table as well. You know what President

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Speaker 5: you know the bottom line here. Steve Woodkoff and others

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Speaker 5: that all means the main book, because the discussions about

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Speaker 5: this war needs to end. That President Trump campaign down

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Speaker 2: Well, when do you think the United States will talk

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Speaker 5: I think at the end of the day, this is

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Speaker 5: something that in addition to you know, the lives sally

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Speaker 5: Well, I worked with more on his twenty fifteen campaign

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Matt Terrell, I thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: It's five twenty three. The Reserve Bank, what are they

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Speaker 2: good morning, Sharon, good morning. What's going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a who we're around saying don't cut it

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to what they have to say and

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Speaker 2: from Gavin Gray. It's a Wednesday. My name's Andrew Dickins.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. This is News Talk SIB.

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in Depth

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Speaker 7: Dame Lydia Coe.

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Speaker 2: Remember your umbrella and I thank you. And Claire Sherwood

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Speaker 11: It would at first.

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Speaker 10: See an interim committee created to take care of that area.

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Speaker 10: charitable trust now the AVON or TARCTO Network Manager Hailey

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Speaker 10: Gulietta she believes, you know, it's a good idea, but

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Speaker 10: she does want to see one of those council voices

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Speaker 10: be from within that community on the east side of

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Speaker 10: Christchurch rather than just any elected official. She says she

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Speaker 10: will be advocating for the elected members at the very

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Speaker 10: least to come from that side of christ Church or

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Speaker 10: Central in order to have a best read.

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Speaker 11: On what happens with that area.

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Speaker 2: All right, so how's your weather partly glady?

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Speaker 10: We could see a charer L two this afternoon. Some

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Speaker 10: could be heavy northwesterlies and a high of twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Max told joins us from Wellington. Hellimax, good morning, You're

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Speaker 2: getting another massive wind farm.

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Speaker 12: Well yeah, I mean look white it up. It is

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Speaker 12: a little further north but near enough to drive to.

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Speaker 12: These plans for a wind farm have been in question.

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Speaker 12: Some locals have been kicking up a fuss. They don't

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Speaker 12: like the proximity to some of their homes within two

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Speaker 12: kilometers in some instances. But the plan is Miuradian Energy

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Speaker 12: wants to build a wind farm of more than twenty

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Speaker 12: turbines at Mount Montroe, that's just south of Ekeatahuna. It

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Speaker 12: would provide enough power to generate powerful more than forty

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Speaker 12: thousand homes in Northern Wide and appa to generate about

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Speaker 12: three hundred giga what hours of renewable energy every year.

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Speaker 12: And so the Environment Environment Court has granted a resource consent,

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Speaker 12: but there is likely to be a legal challenge now

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Speaker 12: in the High Court.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's your with it? I hope it's windy?

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Speaker 12: Oh well a little windy, yes, cloudy as well with

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Speaker 12: a little drizzle. Twenty two the High Central very good.

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Speaker 2: Never written amount of jointing now from Auckland.

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Speaker 11: Andrew, what's going on? It's like the tropics in here.

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Speaker 11: Have you not turned on the aircorn? It's flip and

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Speaker 11: warm man.

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Speaker 2: No I said it to twenty four, but it was

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Speaker 2: it was on nineteen. So it's only been on twenty

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Speaker 2: four for a half an hour.

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Speaker 11: Oh you wait till the host comes in. You are

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Speaker 11: so going to get it. Nineteen is a really good teamp. No, oh,

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Speaker 11: it's too, I can barely speak.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, carry on, okay, let's talk fireworks.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Now, what I can tell you is that Auckland

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Speaker 11: Council seeking advice. Now this is on how to reduce

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Speaker 11: the nuisance and danger being caused by fireworks. So there's

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Speaker 11: been a report and that has been seen by the

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Speaker 11: news room and here at newstak ZB and the council

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Speaker 11: can continue, which is good news, to advocate the central

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Speaker 11: government for a nationwide ban. This is on the private sales.

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Speaker 11: So it says that the council can also tighten existing

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Speaker 11: by laws, you know, possibly raising that bar that must

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Speaker 11: be met when applying for a trading license. So both

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Speaker 11: of those options are now going to be considered by

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Speaker 11: the counselors. What will happen is that that final decision

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Speaker 11: will be resting on the Regulatory Community Safety Committee.

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Speaker 8: Oh right, I got.

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Speaker 11: Those words out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how's the weather fine?

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Speaker 11: Hot, hot, muggy here and the ZIBI main studio cloud

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Speaker 11: developing in the afternoon charts of a shower twenty six

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Speaker 11: is the high outside in Auckland?

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Speaker 2: Cow, did you get a jacket on?

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Speaker 7: Go too?

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Speaker 11: Because when I got back into the news right and on.

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Speaker 2: The way out. Could you turn down the air condition?

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Speaker 11: No, I'm going to wait till it comes in here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all good, it's all good. Thank you so much. Right,

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Speaker 2: I've just got a text from Graham, and I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure I know Graham because I think I might have

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Speaker 2: coached his kids.

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Speaker 7: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Graham says, Andrewid's football, not soccer. I know. I say

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Speaker 2: football all the time and people go no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: But it's soccer, you know the old debate. I said

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Speaker 2: soccer once, So that was very clear. Tyler Binden is

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Speaker 2: a great footballer. It's also quite good at soccer. What

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Speaker 2: does a mummy smell like? Yes, Gavin Gray is on

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Speaker 2: the way with that detail and also more details about

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Speaker 2: the US Russia discussions in Saudi Arabia. It is now

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Speaker 2: sixteen to five.

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Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: It is thirteen to six. Keavin Gray out of the UK.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Gavin, Either Andrew Pope francis not well five

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Speaker 2: days now in hospital.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and just been announced that every engagement right through

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Speaker 8: until the weekend, including the weekend, has been canceled. The

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Speaker 8: eighty eight year old was admitted into Rome's Jamelli Hospital

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Speaker 8: on Friday to undergo treatment and tests for bronchitis. We're

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Speaker 8: now being told he's got a polymicrobial infection of his

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Speaker 8: respiratory tract. What that basically means is he's had to

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Speaker 8: now have a change in the treatment that he was

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Speaker 8: originally prescribed. He's described as in a stable condition, he

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Speaker 8: does not have a fever, but nevertheless, this course is

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Speaker 8: very worrying.

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Speaker 5: He has a.

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Speaker 8: History of illness, particularly to do with his lungs, including

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Speaker 8: just at the age of twenty one he actually had

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Speaker 8: part of one of his lungs removed, having suffered from

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Speaker 8: health issues for many years, and in March of twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty three he spent three nights in hospital with bronchitis,

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Speaker 8: and in June that year underwent a three hour operation

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Speaker 8: to repair an abdominal hernia. So afraid, some bad news.

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Speaker 8: Plenty of well wishers though at Saint Peter's Basilica, plenty

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Speaker 8: of weld wishes throughout the Vatican. But yeah, pretty worrying

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Speaker 8: days for the Pope.

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Speaker 2: Very unfortunate timing because this is the wholy year, the anniversary,

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Speaker 2: the big Old celebrations, and he's missing out and he

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Speaker 2: will be missed. And finally, your textpayer's money has been

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Speaker 2: spent on researchers figuring out what a mummy smells like.

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Speaker 2: And when I say mummy, I mean an Egyptian mummy.

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Speaker 8: Yes, fascinating this Apparently when you open up one of

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Speaker 8: these mummies, even five thousand years on, they actually smell

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Speaker 8: quite nice, I believe it, or not a pleasant smell

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Speaker 8: according to scientists, and that is due to the use

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Speaker 8: of resins and oils like pine cedar and juniper. So

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Speaker 8: this was a team from University College London looking at

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Speaker 8: basically collaborating and conservators and curators at the Egyptian Museum

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Speaker 8: in Cairo. They had a look at nine mummified bodies

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Speaker 8: and the smell has always been something that has fascinated

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Speaker 8: researchers because, as I mentioned, it's actually not pleasant. It

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Speaker 8: is not the smell of decay, and the smell is

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Speaker 8: a very key consideration for ancient Egyptians, it would appear,

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Speaker 8: particularly when it came to the mammification process. Even though

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Speaker 8: five thousand years on, of course things have changed, but

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Speaker 8: it was said that the smells that and the oils

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Speaker 8: that we used are really really rather pleasant This is

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Speaker 8: a seems to be a bizarre thing to investigate and research,

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Speaker 8: but nevertheless really interesting that something all those years on

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Speaker 8: can actually smell quite good.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, I thank you. It is now ten to six

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens, all right, it's a very damning inquiry, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: And it found that public service agencies shared Kiwi's personal

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Speaker 2: information with third party agencies. Now, this inquiry followed alegations

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Speaker 2: that census and COVID vaccination data collected at Manya Dewa,

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Speaker 2: Malai was used to target Maldi voters and the tammy

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Speaker 2: caem cod o elliterate. So the report says STATS New

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Speaker 2: Zealand had insufficient safeguards in place to protect the personal data.

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Speaker 2: You know this is serious because the boss of Stats

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, the big Boss, fell on his sword immediately.

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Speaker 2: Health New Zealand and the Ministry of Health were also

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Speaker 2: criticized for their roles in sharing the data. Now, Alan

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Speaker 2: Holds is an employment advocate who represented six Malai workers

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Speaker 2: and one MSD in the inquiry and joints me.

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Speaker 7: Now, hello allan morning, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: So what does this outcame mean for say, the whistleblowers.

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Speaker 7: Vindication and I guess what it means is that the

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Speaker 7: abuse that they've suffered, probably for eighteen months has been vindicated.

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Speaker 7: I think the real sad part about the entire story

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Speaker 7: is that the whistleblowers were telling the truth the entire time,

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Speaker 7: and without their bravery. And I'm talking about bravery because

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Speaker 7: all of them are faced retaliation and in different ways

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Speaker 7: abused in public, discredited publicly. I've been discredited publicly on

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Speaker 7: multiple occasions for actually standing up and telling the truth.

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Speaker 7: And without the whistle blowers, we wouldn't have this report.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's a bit disappointing that the Prime

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Speaker 7: Minister and the people involved haven't said thank you, brave

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Speaker 7: whistle browers for bringing this evidence to us in a

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Speaker 7: format that we could understand now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but surely surely there was some wise we want

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Speaker 2: We'll want more, because while this inquiry says it should

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Speaker 2: not have been released, it doesn't actually say what the

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Speaker 2: information was then released to do. So it seems incomplete

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Speaker 2: in terms of the total misuse of it. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot that is unfocused.

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Speaker 7: I think it's pretty clear the report, and I've read

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Speaker 7: the sixty eight page report, it sees that information was

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Speaker 7: shared private information of New zeal Is a complete census

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Speaker 7: form was shared with people that it shouldn't have been

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Speaker 7: shared with and it is a complete breach of privacy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so how contentious does that Tommikimikoto result seem now

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Speaker 2: to you?

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Speaker 7: I think a number of us have believed for some

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Speaker 7: time that if it wasn't for the data being accessed

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Speaker 7: by dupay Mary, that the would be a different person

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Speaker 7: in Parliament right now in that seat.

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Speaker 2: How much distress is this causing?

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Speaker 7: I think all it's doing is is proving what a

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Speaker 7: lot of people have thought for a long time about

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Speaker 7: some of the processes that have operated, that there isn't

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Speaker 7: the confidence in the public service. And I say that

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Speaker 7: because this particular cases only the tip of the ice speak.

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Speaker 7: We have so many more whistle blower cases within the

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Speaker 7: public service of serious wrongdoing and that's that's what we're

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Speaker 7: talking about. And the report this is only the initial

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Speaker 7: stage where they're actually saying what the Public Service investigator found.

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Speaker 2: A thank you for your work, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: This morning, that's Alan Wholesey represented the whistleblowers.

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one room. Make your property

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Speaker 1: surgent symbol.

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Speaker 2: You talk Nike asking you're very good with the English language.

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Speaker 2: Is it football or soccer football? Thank you?

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Speaker 13: No worries Brian Wroach this morning, and having read the

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Speaker 13: report yesterday, there's so many reports still to come, the

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Speaker 13: main one being or the criminal one potentially being the

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Speaker 13: one as to what the Murray party did or didn't

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Speaker 13: do with them. You know, say that he's sure that

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Speaker 13: another person should be in the in the time chem Well,

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Speaker 13: that's I mean, that's that's the thing. That's a parliament,

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Speaker 13: the parliament of the country potentially is not made up

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Speaker 13: correctly and so you know that that goes to everything

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Speaker 13: we believe in. But yesterday's report, I mean, how many

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Speaker 13: reports have you read over the years about the public

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Speaker 13: service being useless? And you know the government, the labor

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Speaker 13: governments stacked them to the gunnals, gave them all pay rises.

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Speaker 2: You know you did you hear the comparison of the

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Speaker 2: number of agencies we have compared to Ireland to slit

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Speaker 2: here fifteen there? How to blow them up, get rid

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Speaker 2: of them?

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Speaker 13: And for all of the angsting that was going on

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Speaker 13: last year about people losing their job and losing their

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Speaker 13: job's hard work. We've all lost our job. But I mean,

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Speaker 13: when you look at this report and how incompetent they are,

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Speaker 13: it's unbelievad anyway, So he's all the program opod.

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Speaker 2: Or good and I thank you, and I thank Kenzy,

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Speaker 2: my producer Libby who helped. And I'm Andrew Dickin. See

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Speaker 2: you again tomorrow. Have a great Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: Her Heal.

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