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Speaker 1: Eric Stanford, Immigration Minister having a bit of a crack

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Speaker 1: at employers who aren't trying hard enough to hire local workers.

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Speaker 1: So these businesses could get their accreditations canceled if they

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Speaker 1: don't talk to MSD properly and try and hire beneficiaries

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Speaker 1: where they're supposed to. Rachel Simpson's business ends immigration specialists

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Speaker 1: with me this morning.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Rachel, good morning, How are you good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Do you why aren't businesses doing this properly?

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Speaker 1: Do you think?

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Speaker 2: Well, they are doing it. There's already a labor market

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Speaker 2: test within the Accredited Employer Work Visa system, so you

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Speaker 2: have to advertise the role and you have to go

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Speaker 2: to MST and have a chat with them. So I

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Speaker 2: think the signal from the minister, you know, is really

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Speaker 2: puts the onus on the government departments to make sure

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Speaker 2: that they're timely and responsive for those requests from employers.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying you are getting in touch with MSD,

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Speaker 1: but MSD's does not getting back to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a few things in it, but

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Speaker 2: at the heart of it, immigration is about the skills

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Speaker 2: that those people bring to New Zealand. So you can

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Speaker 2: go to NEST and check that it's really about whether

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Speaker 2: there's somebody with the skills that's available on the local

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Speaker 2: labor market, and employers will always look locally before going

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Speaker 2: to immigration, but they're more extensive. It's difficult.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the minister says eleven percent of these cases

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Speaker 1: that she's talking about is when an employer who hadn't

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Speaker 1: actually gone to MSD at all. What's that about?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's part of the process. So it

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Speaker 2: would be useful for Immigration to make sure that the

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Speaker 2: guidance to employers around what's involved in those steps is

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Speaker 2: really clear to employers and make sure that employers can

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Speaker 2: bring up immigration and check on those including things like

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Speaker 2: how long to wait for a response from NFT.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Rachel, I just want to be really clear here.

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Speaker 1: So are you saying that there's a problem on MSD's

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Speaker 1: side or are you saying, actually, yeah, there's a few

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Speaker 1: businesses who probably aren't doing it right and we need

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Speaker 1: to fix that.

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Speaker 2: Ah, it's probably a mix of both, be honest. So

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Speaker 2: we both did it on the process.

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Speaker 1: Everyone needs to up their game. Yeah, okay, all right, good,

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Speaker 1: well let's do that because we need to hire Kiwis

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Speaker 1: before we hire foreigners as part of the problem this

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Speaker 1: country's got. In fact, if you look, that was Rachel Simpson,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Business News immigration specialist. The problem that

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Speaker 1: we've gotten this country, which Erica Stanford points out, so

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Speaker 1: since we brought in the invest that the accredited employer

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Speaker 1: worked visa scheme, since the first one was issued back

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, we've got twenty thousand more kiwis unemployed.

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