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Speaker 3: Curll A good afternoon and welcome into the Sunday edition

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Speaker 3: of Weekend Sport on News Talks at B. July twenty eighth,

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Speaker 3: Happy Birthday, Sir Garfield Sobers, Happy Birthday, Harry Kane, Happy birthday,

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Speaker 3: Jacob Orum. I'm Jason Pine, Show producer Andy McDonald. We

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Speaker 3: are here until three talking some sport with you.

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Speaker 4: Arionn Tedmans, When's gold Summer Macintosh, the decking food and

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Speaker 4: it's fourth fair Erica Fairweather heartbreaking.

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Speaker 3: Erica Fairweather just missing the medals and the women's four

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Speaker 3: hundred meter freestyle final on night one of finals at

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Speaker 3: the Paris Olympic Game. Olympic Lead for Swimming New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Gary Francis shortly to reflect on that and what is

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Speaker 3: the best way for an athlete to bounce back quickly,

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Speaker 3: especially in the case of someone like Erica Fairweather, who

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Speaker 3: has three more events to compete and in fact, she's

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Speaker 3: back in the pool tonight for the heats of the

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Speaker 3: two hundred freestyle. Coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith going to pop

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Speaker 3: in this hour with some advice perhaps on that scenario.

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Speaker 3: We'll look at some of the other noteworthy key we

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Speaker 3: performances on day one of competition in Paris as well. Meantime,

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Speaker 3: significant punishments for the Canadian women's football team at the

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Speaker 3: Paris Games. FIFA have announced a six point deduction from

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Speaker 3: their group tally, a big monetary fine, and head coach

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Speaker 3: Beef Priestman and two members of her staff have been

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Speaker 3: banned from all football activity for one year. We'll get

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Speaker 3: you to Canada after one with journalist Dylan Dyson. Other

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Speaker 3: matters around today. The All Black squad for the Rugby

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Speaker 3: Championship named at three o'clock this afternoon. It's going to

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Speaker 3: might be added with New Zealand Herald Rugby writer Gregor Paul.

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Speaker 3: The Sales NBL Final, as you heard in our sports

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Speaker 3: news this afternoon in christ Church, Canterbury, rams Auckland Tuatata

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Speaker 3: two thirty tip off. Going to preview that with commentator

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Speaker 3: Justin Nelson. England men's football manager Gareth Southgate has stepped

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Speaker 3: down from the role after eight years in charge. Owen

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Speaker 3: Eastwood is a Kiwi born, UK based performance coach who

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Speaker 3: worked alongside Gareth Southgate. He's going to join us for

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Speaker 3: a chat about the legacy that he leaves James mcconey

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Speaker 3: out of Paris as well Live Sport this afternoon the

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Speaker 3: last of four Chatham Cup quarter finals, Napier City Rovers

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Speaker 3: last four of our domestic knockout Cup competition in men's football.

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Speaker 4: They turn for home. Let's look at the splits. Let's

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Speaker 4: see where Erica Fairweather is. She's gained a spot, She's

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Speaker 4: up to fifth. Has she got more to give? Can

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Speaker 4: she climb on the decie? The decies in third looks

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Speaker 4: to be slowing. It's Tatmas's race. Has fear Weather got

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Speaker 4: a kick? Can she find enough to get her bronze medal?

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Speaker 4: Tatmos coming for home? It's her gold medal, Arian Titmos.

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Speaker 4: When's gold and it's fourth for Erica Fairweather.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, heartbreak for the Dunedian's swimmer this morning fourth ari

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Speaker 3: On Tiitmas of Australia winning gold ahead of Canada's Summer Macintosh.

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Speaker 3: Caddie La Deeckie of the United States was in third,

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Speaker 3: I suggested that very thing to Gary. If there'd been

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you've You're exactly right, Jason. I think

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Speaker 6: It was a very nervous final, wasn't it. You know,

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Speaker 3: How did you assist the way she swum in the

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Speaker 6: Well, because the heat was that wasn't the last heat,

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Speaker 6: think the most important thing is to try to touch

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Speaker 6: and she certainly, you know, was she She felt really

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Speaker 6: good and she had plenty left, so we're really I mean,

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Speaker 6: she she did a really good job this morning and

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Speaker 3: As you say, the star power though in those middle lanes,

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Speaker 6: No, No, not at all. I think the race was

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Speaker 6: We weren't too sure how Macintosh would swim. She's you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, Erica's job was just to be right in

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Speaker 3: So always lessons learned.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it was it was. It was a tough race.

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Speaker 3: It must be hard to process for Erica as well.

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Speaker 6: She Well, I'll you know, I watched at the end

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Speaker 6: Obviously she's very, very upset, but at the same time

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Speaker 6: She wants to get back into pool tomorrow and try

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Speaker 6: I've got another race tomorrow. And she's really you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's a tough one to take, but it's

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Speaker 6: I think the fact that the rest of this. You know,

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Speaker 6: I think she would have been like, well, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: You know, why did I swim so badly? But I

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Speaker 6: see that it was there must have been a hell

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Speaker 6: for all of those swimmers, how it affected them.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely right. Well, she's back in action tonight, as you say,

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Speaker 3: has favored events. Look, I don't want to jinx anything here, Gary,

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Speaker 6: Well, I think one of the things that Lewis was

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Speaker 5: He looked at the heats this morning.

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Speaker 6: Again, the heats were quite nervous all around in all

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Speaker 6: of a I mean this in the nicest way. Lewis

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Speaker 6: and he will you know, he's pretty good at detecting

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Speaker 6: he's going to go pretty good tomorrow. You know, he's

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Speaker 6: he's pretty experienced. He does race well under pressure. But

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Speaker 6: I guess there's pressure, and then there's the Olympics, isn't there.

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Speaker 6: So we will see tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to jinx him, and I don't want

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Speaker 6: hate his preparation has gone really well, as has all

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Speaker 6: the men's four hundred and three promise and still come

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Speaker 6: to be strategic, you know. It's about it's about winning

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Speaker 3: Twelve twenty nine. Give fair Weather or break. She's just

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Speaker 3: Stop down playing her. I don't know the I was

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Speaker 13: the last four consecutive Olympics.

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Speaker 3: And what happened this morning Australia won And again so

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Speaker 3: was that number four or was that number five in

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Speaker 3: a row?

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Speaker 14: It's number four.

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Speaker 3: It's still It's still a bloody good record, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm so proud of Elliott tickmas Moss is a

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Speaker 13: gold Coast Gill the key we girl.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I just don't think.

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Speaker 13: It was her day.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a tough it's a tough field, Laul, Right,

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Speaker 3: it's a tough field, man, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: Oh it is.

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Speaker 13: I mean, Australia produces great rugby league players, but we

444
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Speaker 13: probably produced better swimmers.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: It's good weather all year round here and this conducive

447
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Speaker 13: sort of producing pats sort of athlete we'll hauld Jerry

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Speaker 13: Speck to New Zealand, they probably don't hit the facilities.

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Speaker 13: They've probably got the athletes, but they don't really hit

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Speaker 13: the facilities to develop them to the level they do here.

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Speaker 3: I just love the I love the battle between Australia

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Speaker 3: and the United States and the pool. Obviously I want

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Speaker 3: us to do well, but I understand our you know,

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Speaker 3: our limitations and most of the events. But whenever I

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Speaker 3: see the US and Australia those two caps side by side,

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Speaker 3: particularly in the relay, I have to say, Lyle, I

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Speaker 3: absolutely love it. Man, I love it.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I mean you're going to get the American

459
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Speaker 13: s there, Jews, they're very good, but we push them

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Speaker 13: all away.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I spoke to Adam Peacock yesterday, Australian correspondent. He

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Speaker 3: didn't he didn't think that that Australia would get the

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Speaker 3: metal hall that the United States will in the pool?

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Speaker 3: Do you do you concur you agree?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Do you ever get it?

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Speaker 13: I don't think there'll be very much in it. I

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Speaker 13: mean we're headed the metal table across the board at

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Speaker 13: the moment, obviously because swimming start.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, but the men's.

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Speaker 13: Went down to the Americans. I think we came in

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Speaker 13: about third place, but I think it will.

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Speaker 3: Oh lol, I've just ought you're still there. I've just

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Speaker 3: last year. I've just last year. Sorry, low, I think

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Speaker 3: we've got most of your most of your viewpoint. Always

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Speaker 3: enjoyed chatting to you, mate. Thanks for taking the time

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Speaker 3: for to call up Ian Hi you want to said

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Speaker 3: about him?

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Speaker 16: A twig yeah, what, I'm nice of it, Jason. I

481
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Speaker 16: couldn't believe it made that. Woman's not a really been

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Speaker 16: a very big woman. She's sort of smallish and she

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Speaker 16: just went to do what she did. Rowing just amazing, mate,

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Speaker 16: I'm really please. I hope a family are there watching

485
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Speaker 16: her and things like that. I really for her and

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Speaker 16: the one on the swimming My congratulations go to her

487
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Speaker 16: too sort of things, Jace.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Emma Twig is amazing. Ian, she is. She is

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Speaker 3: an absolute pocket rocket. And you're right over stalking to

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Speaker 3: Francesca about her before and you know exactly just what

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Speaker 3: I said. She's just a power to weight ratio similar

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Speaker 3: to Hamish Bond actually because he wasn't a big guy either,

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Speaker 3: but man, he could make that boat go fast.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and it was fantastic. I love this because I've

495
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Speaker 16: been watching quite a bit. I'm half asleep now, mate,

496
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Speaker 16: I might have to go and have a few winks.

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Speaker 17: Good on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ian, thanks for taking the time to call before

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Speaker 3: you're not off mate, Michael High.

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Speaker 18: I'm good, Jason, thanks for talking. Just a couple of things.

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Speaker 18: Congratulations to all who made the Olympic team for a

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Speaker 18: start litt alone if they didn't overly flash. But well,

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Speaker 18: I've been some good stuff, amazing swimming, amazing sculling so far,

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Speaker 18: and it brings me back the point of call, Jason.

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Speaker 18: You can't do anything about it, but there may be

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Speaker 18: some powers to be who listen if you've got a

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Speaker 18: daughter in say in that like the finals of four

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Speaker 18: hundred three style, and they they're on the outside lane

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Speaker 18: and one of the outside lanes with you know what

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Speaker 18: I mean. But the camera work and the commentators always

511
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Speaker 18: number one and two, that's all they look at. Underwater

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Speaker 18: shots always number one and two. Both shots always number

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Speaker 18: one and two. Head on shots number one and two.

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Speaker 18: If I wasn't my daughter or son was in a

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Speaker 18: race there, or your sister or whatever, you'd want to

516
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Speaker 18: see you you want to see the hometown person doing right,

517
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Speaker 18: they could, you know, concentrate on them, if you know

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Speaker 18: what I mean.

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. Michael hard though, isn't it. You're right?

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Speaker 3: They do do the white shot, and they do that

522
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Speaker 3: aerial shot and you see all eight lanes and it

523
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Speaker 3: gives you a really good idea of everybody is in

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Speaker 3: comparison to one another year. But I guess, I guess

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Speaker 3: that's the nature of us, especially in a race like

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Speaker 3: the four hundred, where they tend to spread out of it.

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Speaker 3: So for the last one hundred, one hundred and fifty minutes,

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Speaker 3: You're right, it is often just those at the head

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Speaker 3: of the field. But I guess that's natural.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: But the thing is that in some of the long races,

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Speaker 18: like the rowing this morning at two hundred and two kilometers,

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Speaker 18: they've got plenty of time. But if they had a

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Speaker 18: close up of say somebody from Bournmouth, you know, they're

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Speaker 18: not likely to get somewhere. You know, I'm not being awful,

536
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Speaker 18: but the locals will be crowding around the TV's at

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Speaker 18: home or the wireless or something and trying to watch

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Speaker 18: and see our hometown girl, little boy. But they're not there.

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Speaker 18: They're not even shown, they're not featured over How long

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Speaker 18: does it take seven minutes or something?

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Speaker 5: To do?

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Speaker 15: You know?

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Speaker 18: If you know what I mean, they're I.

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Speaker 3: Do, Michael, I do. Yeah, it's a valid point you make.

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Speaker 3: It is I guess they've only the director's only got

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Speaker 3: he's got the choice of shots, and I guess the

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Speaker 3: money shot off and is that one of who's leading

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Speaker 3: the race? But yep, know your points A good one

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Speaker 3: and well made. Thanks for calling through twenty three to one.

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Speaker 3: Going to take a break, come back and hit across

551
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Speaker 3: the Tasman to get some coaching advice from our coaching

552
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Speaker 3: guru Wayne Goldsmith on what is the best way to

553
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Speaker 3: bounce back quickly from adversity when you've got I'm back

554
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Speaker 3: in the pool Twenty four hours later, Wayne Goldsmith on

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Speaker 3: the show After.

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Speaker 1: This from Penrose to Paris, you like to call on

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekends Sports with Jason

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Speaker 1: Pine and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder

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Speaker 1: News talks.

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Speaker 3: Be heartbreak for eric A fair Weather in the pool

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Speaker 3: this morning. I wanted to get a view from our

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Speaker 3: coaching guru, Wayne Goldsmith, who joins us regularly on the show,

563
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Speaker 3: and how she best puts this behind her, given she

564
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Speaker 3: has three more events to compete in starting tonight and

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Speaker 3: consultation with her coach. What strategies could she use? Wayne?

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Speaker 3: First of all, how challenging will it be for eric

567
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Speaker 3: A Fairweather to put this behind her and to almost

568
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Speaker 3: immediately refocus on her next event?

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Speaker 15: Well, first of all, we're going to say how proud

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Speaker 15: New Zealand should be of Erica.

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Speaker 19: That man.

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Speaker 15: She got beaten by the current world record holder, by

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Speaker 15: the Canadian Son Macintosh, who broke the world four hundred

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Speaker 15: im record only a few weeks ago, and the greatest

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Speaker 15: female distance swimmer of all times. So it's I don't know,

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Speaker 15: it's like being beaten by the All Blacks by a

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Speaker 15: point in a final of the World Cup. I mean,

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Speaker 15: it's you know where I think all New Zealand should

579
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Speaker 15: be so proud of what she's done here there. But

580
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Speaker 15: you're exactly right. The challenge is now, as it is

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Speaker 15: with so many athletes that have got high expectations, either

582
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Speaker 15: they put on themselves or people have placed on them,

583
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Speaker 15: to say, all right, didn't quite get where I wanted

584
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Speaker 15: to be, didn't get the result that I quite expected. However,

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Speaker 15: I need to be at my absolute best and quickly.

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Speaker 15: So the question is really how do you move on?

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Speaker 15: And I take it back to an NRL story, believe

588
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Speaker 15: it or not, where I was sitting talking with Tobe

589
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Speaker 15: Sexton's there with the Bulldogs and at the time he

590
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Speaker 15: was with the Gold Coast Titans, and we're having a

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Speaker 15: chat about how do you get players to move on

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Speaker 15: quickly after a tribes been scored and he was talking

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Speaker 15: about he said, look, I noticed as a halfback that

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Speaker 15: I'm in the ingyle area and the players are talking

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Speaker 15: about who missed the tackle and how disappointed they were

596
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Speaker 15: and talking about where the gap was, And I said, Davie,

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Speaker 15: the bottom line is we've got to ask the question,

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Speaker 15: what do I need to do now and what do

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Speaker 15: I need to do next? Because made as humans, we're

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Speaker 15: all focused on what's happened, what we know has gone before.

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Speaker 15: The trick is to get our brains focused on what

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Speaker 15: do I need to do now? What must I do next?

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Speaker 15: Where do I in their case, where do I have

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Speaker 15: to stand off the kickoff? So to bring them into now,

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Speaker 15: to bring them into the moment and get them out

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Speaker 15: of their head, which is living in the past.

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Speaker 3: And then I guess leads into the analysis of what

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Speaker 3: went wrong. I get the feeling. What you're going to

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Speaker 3: tell me is that the analysis of the four hundred

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Speaker 3: freestyle can wait for now.

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Speaker 15: There's nothing and is a great liner like the pony,

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Speaker 15: which is there's nothing that you can do now from

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Speaker 15: a physical perspective that's going to make you any better.

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Speaker 15: But she's you could do a lot of things to

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Speaker 15: stuff it up, and I think, what a lot of

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Speaker 15: inexperienced coaches do. You know, first time coaches and the Olympics.

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Speaker 15: Quite often what they do is they over analyze and

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Speaker 15: they say, you.

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Speaker 8: Know what we've got to do.

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Speaker 15: We've got to swim it the way Fittma swim at all.

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Speaker 15: We've got to play the way the French played in

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Speaker 15: the sevens. We're going to change everything because that's what

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Speaker 15: they're doing. Dumbest thing you could ever do is to

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Speaker 15: change what's worked for you, letting up. She's a world champion,

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Speaker 15: you know, she is a hell of a good swimmer.

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Speaker 15: So the things that you've done to get to the

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Speaker 15: Olympics and the things that you've done to be that

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Speaker 15: good will hold you together right now. And may look,

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Speaker 15: I've been in these rooms in Olympic villages and in

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Speaker 15: Olympic war rooms as you call them, and you sit

631
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Speaker 15: down and say, wow, we've got to turn things around quickly.

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Speaker 15: The most experienced coaches that I've worked with, so the

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Speaker 15: don Talbots in swimming and some of the great ones

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Speaker 15: that have been there over and over again, they just

635
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Speaker 15: look at you and say, when you ask what are

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Speaker 15: we going to do? They basically say, don't change anything,

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Speaker 15: if anything. I know it sounds really crazy. Do less.

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Speaker 15: The general rule before Olympic game starts is work hard.

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Speaker 15: There general rule once it starts, once you're in the

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Speaker 15: environment is rest more, recover more, regenerate more, look after

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Speaker 15: your mental health, sleep better. There's nothing you can do

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Speaker 15: physically to make yourself better once you're in the environment.

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Speaker 15: It's all about sticking to the things that have got

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Speaker 15: you there in the first place.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that there would have been a routine in

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Speaker 3: place for Erica and for other swimmers who were involved

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Speaker 3: in multiple events, because she's certainly not the only one

648
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Speaker 3: when lose or whatever after the four hundred, there would

649
00:32:59,787 --> 00:33:02,747
Speaker 3: have been a plan for her for the twelve twenty

650
00:33:02,787 --> 00:33:04,907
Speaker 3: four hours after that as she hits into the two

651
00:33:05,027 --> 00:33:09,187
Speaker 3: hundred free. So sticking to that is key, from what

652
00:33:09,267 --> 00:33:10,067
Speaker 3: I'm hearing you say.

653
00:33:10,747 --> 00:33:12,987
Speaker 15: It is. And look what you can do, and what

654
00:33:13,227 --> 00:33:17,227
Speaker 15: some coaches will do is you change something, but change nothing.

655
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Speaker 9: So what I mean by that is you.

656
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Speaker 15: Might change something that is in reality testimony. I can't

657
00:33:25,067 --> 00:33:28,227
Speaker 15: even say that without my false second. But you might

658
00:33:28,427 --> 00:33:32,387
Speaker 15: change something, not because it's going to make any physical

659
00:33:32,587 --> 00:33:36,787
Speaker 15: or technical change in reality, but the athlete goes, you know, okay,

660
00:33:37,107 --> 00:33:39,227
Speaker 15: that's going to make me better. Sometimes you play a

661
00:33:39,267 --> 00:33:41,627
Speaker 15: little bit of a mind game where you go, you

662
00:33:41,707 --> 00:33:43,347
Speaker 15: know what, I've been thinking about the race. You know

663
00:33:43,347 --> 00:33:45,787
Speaker 15: what I think we should do. Why don't we change

664
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Speaker 15: instead of using your left hand, we use your right

665
00:33:48,347 --> 00:33:50,627
Speaker 15: hand on that? And they go, oh, yeah, that's good.

666
00:33:50,667 --> 00:33:50,827
Speaker 8: Yeah.

667
00:33:51,307 --> 00:33:54,867
Speaker 15: See you're giving them something small to focus on. Where

668
00:33:54,907 --> 00:33:57,227
Speaker 15: they go, yep, I've made a change. It's going to

669
00:33:57,307 --> 00:34:01,347
Speaker 15: improve me. In reality, it probably is here or there,

670
00:34:01,427 --> 00:34:05,067
Speaker 15: doesn't really make a difference. But sometimes with some athletes,

671
00:34:05,107 --> 00:34:07,987
Speaker 15: you give them a little thing, just a tiny, tiny

672
00:34:08,107 --> 00:34:11,827
Speaker 15: thing that they can focus on that gives them the

673
00:34:11,907 --> 00:34:14,987
Speaker 15: confidence to say, hey, okay, I learned from yesterday. My

674
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Speaker 15: coaches come up with an idea for me, and we're

675
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Speaker 15: going to change something just to give them a little

676
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Speaker 15: bit of a boost if they need it. But again,

677
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Speaker 15: it would be very very small. You wouldn't change anything substantial.

678
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Speaker 3: Everyone's going to have an opinion. Obviously, there are only

679
00:34:30,427 --> 00:34:33,587
Speaker 3: certain opinions, very small number of opinions that will actually

680
00:34:34,467 --> 00:34:38,347
Speaker 3: count to Eric Afairweather. But in terms of athletes in

681
00:34:38,427 --> 00:34:41,547
Speaker 3: her position staying off their screens, is that something that

682
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Speaker 3: you would encourage as a coach.

683
00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:46,227
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, look, I got up this morning and because

684
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Speaker 15: I'm into sport and swimming particularly or there were so

685
00:34:49,747 --> 00:34:53,827
Speaker 15: many emails and texts and social media posts and so

686
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Speaker 15: many of them.

687
00:34:55,347 --> 00:34:55,707
Speaker 8: I don't know.

688
00:34:55,827 --> 00:34:57,947
Speaker 15: They should apply for a license to be able to

689
00:34:58,027 --> 00:35:02,707
Speaker 15: use a keyboard because some of the comments right across

690
00:35:02,747 --> 00:35:06,267
Speaker 15: the board were just ridiculous. There was a conspiracy theory

691
00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:09,187
Speaker 15: about the Chinese team, for example, that I read this

692
00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:13,427
Speaker 15: morning that they deliberately swim slowly to lose the final

693
00:35:13,507 --> 00:35:16,467
Speaker 15: of the relay because they wanted to catch people off guard.

694
00:35:16,467 --> 00:35:19,067
Speaker 15: I mean, it was just so much rubbish, you know.

695
00:35:19,147 --> 00:35:21,987
Speaker 15: And if you're an athlete in the village and you're

696
00:35:22,107 --> 00:35:25,267
Speaker 15: going what I need is I need a little bit

697
00:35:25,267 --> 00:35:28,227
Speaker 15: of reassurance or I need something to make me feel better.

698
00:35:28,347 --> 00:35:28,747
Speaker 8: I need.

699
00:35:30,467 --> 00:35:33,587
Speaker 15: A quick emotional hit to read something positive, and you

700
00:35:33,707 --> 00:35:37,107
Speaker 15: go on social media. It just doesn't work. And look

701
00:35:37,587 --> 00:35:40,027
Speaker 15: what you said, Pin is exactly right. You have a

702
00:35:40,187 --> 00:35:42,587
Speaker 15: small group of people that you listen to and trust

703
00:35:43,187 --> 00:35:45,067
Speaker 15: and you put your faith in them. So it could

704
00:35:45,147 --> 00:35:49,187
Speaker 15: be for example, your coach and your life partner, or

705
00:35:49,387 --> 00:35:51,947
Speaker 15: your coach and your mum and dad, or coach and

706
00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:55,547
Speaker 15: your best friend or two members of your team. You

707
00:35:55,667 --> 00:35:59,347
Speaker 15: have a very small circle and if you want help

708
00:35:59,387 --> 00:36:02,187
Speaker 15: and support, you'd go to them one of the Again,

709
00:36:02,267 --> 00:36:05,187
Speaker 15: another I love talking about is another thing you've got

710
00:36:05,267 --> 00:36:07,867
Speaker 15: to be really careful of is to have set all

711
00:36:07,947 --> 00:36:11,907
Speaker 15: this up beforehand with the team on how you'll deal

712
00:36:12,027 --> 00:36:14,667
Speaker 15: with win, lose, or draw. So what I mean by

713
00:36:14,747 --> 00:36:17,947
Speaker 15: that often say to teams that are going to big competitions,

714
00:36:18,547 --> 00:36:20,787
Speaker 15: it doesn't matter what happens, They're going to be on

715
00:36:20,867 --> 00:36:23,427
Speaker 15: an emotional rollercase to feeling great if they do well,

716
00:36:23,827 --> 00:36:26,627
Speaker 15: feeling not so good if they do poorly. When they

717
00:36:26,747 --> 00:36:29,187
Speaker 15: come back to be part of the team, be their rock,

718
00:36:29,707 --> 00:36:33,867
Speaker 15: be stable, be strong, be positive, be helpful, be caring.

719
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Speaker 15: Don't give them too much advice, because if they're already

720
00:36:38,427 --> 00:36:41,627
Speaker 15: trying to sift through and figure out a simple, clear

721
00:36:41,747 --> 00:36:44,387
Speaker 15: path forward and they're getting one hundred and ninety two

722
00:36:44,427 --> 00:36:47,867
Speaker 15: different voices in their ear, it only makes things more

723
00:36:47,987 --> 00:36:51,387
Speaker 15: complicated and more difficult. And I think that's where the

724
00:36:51,467 --> 00:36:55,867
Speaker 15: relationship between coaches and their athletes become vitally important, because

725
00:36:56,307 --> 00:36:58,507
Speaker 15: in moments like these, you just want to hear one

726
00:36:58,627 --> 00:36:59,547
Speaker 15: voice that.

727
00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:02,467
Speaker 3: You know and trust, and you've got faith in so

728
00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:05,867
Speaker 3: much wisdom, why just one final thing? And this might

729
00:37:05,947 --> 00:37:08,747
Speaker 3: be a hard question to answer, but in your experience,

730
00:37:08,907 --> 00:37:12,027
Speaker 3: when a swimmer, let's stay with swimming, When a swimmer

731
00:37:12,107 --> 00:37:14,907
Speaker 3: experience is disappointment but then has to get back in

732
00:37:14,987 --> 00:37:20,187
Speaker 3: the poll straight away, is that typically generally a good thing?

733
00:37:21,107 --> 00:37:25,627
Speaker 3: Or will someone's performance just naturally go down but because

734
00:37:25,667 --> 00:37:28,027
Speaker 3: of the disappointment of the first race, if you get

735
00:37:28,027 --> 00:37:31,107
Speaker 3: what I'm asking, yeah, no, My view.

736
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Speaker 15: Is as always made. It comes down to preparation. And

737
00:37:34,747 --> 00:37:36,547
Speaker 15: it's the same as when you're working on football teams,

738
00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:38,947
Speaker 15: isn't it is that you go in thinking, yo, I

739
00:37:38,987 --> 00:37:41,307
Speaker 15: want to win the game, But what happens if we

740
00:37:41,427 --> 00:37:44,107
Speaker 15: lose someone in the first ten minutes? What happens if

741
00:37:44,147 --> 00:37:46,627
Speaker 15: we get a nine to one penalty count, what happens

742
00:37:46,627 --> 00:37:48,507
Speaker 15: if all of a sudden it's eighteen mil at a

743
00:37:48,507 --> 00:37:52,907
Speaker 15: half time? You play out all those different possibilities and

744
00:37:53,107 --> 00:37:55,587
Speaker 15: you prepare for them, and you know, I know, when

745
00:37:55,627 --> 00:37:57,667
Speaker 15: I've been in camps and when I've been in the

746
00:37:57,747 --> 00:38:01,027
Speaker 15: villages with athletes over the years, you get to this

747
00:38:01,227 --> 00:38:08,147
Speaker 15: moment and you want them to feel howard and powerful

748
00:38:08,947 --> 00:38:11,707
Speaker 15: and that what happens to the next is their choice

749
00:38:12,387 --> 00:38:15,627
Speaker 15: is that yesterday was yesterday. I can't do anything about

750
00:38:15,667 --> 00:38:18,307
Speaker 15: what happened. All we're focused on is what do I

751
00:38:18,427 --> 00:38:20,707
Speaker 15: do now? And point it can come down some really

752
00:38:20,787 --> 00:38:23,267
Speaker 15: simple things like okay, what are we going to do now?

753
00:38:23,307 --> 00:38:25,707
Speaker 15: We're going to get in and do some easy laps,

754
00:38:25,947 --> 00:38:27,507
Speaker 15: or then we're going to do what We're going to

755
00:38:27,547 --> 00:38:29,547
Speaker 15: go to the village and have a really good meal.

756
00:38:29,627 --> 00:38:31,027
Speaker 15: What are we going to do and we're to have

757
00:38:31,067 --> 00:38:36,107
Speaker 15: a nice nap and asleep and sticking to simple practical

758
00:38:36,747 --> 00:38:40,587
Speaker 15: things that you can do and be focused on what

759
00:38:40,947 --> 00:38:44,747
Speaker 15: comes next. I mean that word next, and even more importantly,

760
00:38:44,787 --> 00:38:47,107
Speaker 15: I guess the word now, what are we going to

761
00:38:47,187 --> 00:38:47,867
Speaker 15: do now?

762
00:38:48,027 --> 00:38:48,947
Speaker 8: What do we do here?

763
00:38:49,347 --> 00:38:51,987
Speaker 15: What are you going to do next? Bring it from

764
00:38:52,147 --> 00:38:54,747
Speaker 15: the past into writing and right now, because mate, as

765
00:38:54,787 --> 00:38:57,187
Speaker 15: you and I know, I haven't had breakfast even it's

766
00:38:57,187 --> 00:39:00,587
Speaker 15: a little bit late, but I'm about to choose what

767
00:39:00,747 --> 00:39:04,147
Speaker 15: I eat for breakfast, and because that's about to happen,

768
00:39:04,227 --> 00:39:05,987
Speaker 15: I can't control what I had to eat or drink.

769
00:39:06,027 --> 00:39:09,787
Speaker 15: Lass can't do anything about what's gone. And to get

770
00:39:09,867 --> 00:39:13,707
Speaker 15: the athletes in that mindset to say I choose to

771
00:39:13,827 --> 00:39:18,587
Speaker 15: move on and swim really really fast. I choose to

772
00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:23,507
Speaker 15: be remarkable tomorrow. I choose to warm up brilliantly. I

773
00:39:23,667 --> 00:39:26,227
Speaker 15: choose to eat well, I choose to sleep well. You

774
00:39:26,387 --> 00:39:29,627
Speaker 15: give them that sense of real empowerment, and it takes

775
00:39:29,747 --> 00:39:32,827
Speaker 15: away a lot of that. Well, this happened yesterday. I

776
00:39:32,867 --> 00:39:35,707
Speaker 15: have no control over the past, but I can control

777
00:39:35,787 --> 00:39:37,867
Speaker 15: what I do, where I am. And how do I

778
00:39:37,907 --> 00:39:38,827
Speaker 15: approach it right now?

779
00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:41,187
Speaker 3: Well, I can only hope that erik A fair Weather

780
00:39:41,347 --> 00:39:43,627
Speaker 3: has the kind of wisdom wrapped around her that you've

781
00:39:43,667 --> 00:39:47,107
Speaker 3: provided us this afternoon. Wayne, Always love getting your insight.

782
00:39:47,267 --> 00:39:49,147
Speaker 3: Thanks for taking the call. We might see if we

783
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:51,707
Speaker 3: can catch up again next week, because no doubt something

784
00:39:51,747 --> 00:39:53,387
Speaker 3: will happen in the week you hit at these Olympic

785
00:39:53,467 --> 00:39:56,627
Speaker 3: games that'll be worth discussing, So please keep your phone

786
00:39:56,667 --> 00:39:57,387
Speaker 3: on if that's okay.

787
00:39:58,067 --> 00:39:59,907
Speaker 15: Always a pleasure, my friend, Always a pleasure.

788
00:39:59,987 --> 00:40:02,187
Speaker 3: Good on your Wayne. Thanks indeed, Wayne Goldsmith there a

789
00:40:02,267 --> 00:40:04,787
Speaker 3: regular contributor to the show and always with pearls of

790
00:40:04,827 --> 00:40:08,707
Speaker 3: wisdom on whatever topic we throw his way. On text

791
00:40:08,747 --> 00:40:11,627
Speaker 3: from Bob Jason, you've been going on all morning about

792
00:40:11,747 --> 00:40:14,067
Speaker 3: eric A fair Weather losing. Just leave her alone. She

793
00:40:14,147 --> 00:40:16,587
Speaker 3: did bloody well in most people's eyes except yours. I

794
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:20,667
Speaker 3: doubt you'll read this out because the truth hurts. Bob. Thanks.

795
00:40:21,267 --> 00:40:24,587
Speaker 3: I have not mentioned the word losing at all with

796
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Speaker 3: regards to eric A fair Weather. I said before if

797
00:40:27,547 --> 00:40:31,587
Speaker 3: I've been giving out the perception that I, in any

798
00:40:31,667 --> 00:40:35,627
Speaker 3: way have, you know, have any disappointment in what she did,

799
00:40:36,027 --> 00:40:37,827
Speaker 3: it is the wrong perception I've been given out and

800
00:40:37,907 --> 00:40:41,427
Speaker 3: apologize for that. I think Erica did herself, her family

801
00:40:41,547 --> 00:40:46,627
Speaker 3: and us proud, absolutely magnificent. She made an Olympic final.

802
00:40:47,467 --> 00:40:49,627
Speaker 3: How many Keywis can lay claim to that fourth in

803
00:40:49,707 --> 00:40:56,667
Speaker 3: an Olympic final? Even fewer an absolute champion seven four

804
00:40:56,707 --> 00:40:58,187
Speaker 3: to one news talks they'd be after the news that

805
00:40:58,227 --> 00:41:01,467
Speaker 3: one want to get you to Canada. Big sports story overnight.

806
00:41:01,987 --> 00:41:05,107
Speaker 3: The punishment handed down to the Canadian football team, a

807
00:41:05,267 --> 00:41:08,867
Speaker 3: six point deduction from their group at the Olympics, two

808
00:41:08,947 --> 00:41:13,347
Speaker 3: hundred thousand Swiss francs fine and beef priestman. The head

809
00:41:13,427 --> 00:41:16,307
Speaker 3: coach has been banned from all football activity for a year.

810
00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:20,587
Speaker 3: Really significant punishment. So we'll cover that off and the

811
00:41:20,667 --> 00:41:22,747
Speaker 3: National Basketball League final this afternoon.

812
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Speaker 7: Pleas to discuss the biggest sports issues on and after fields.

813
00:41:27,507 --> 00:41:31,147
Speaker 7: It's all on regain Ford with Jason Vaine on your

814
00:41:31,227 --> 00:41:33,667
Speaker 7: Home of sport US.

815
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Speaker 3: All one seven. Hello and welcome back into the show,

816
00:41:38,067 --> 00:41:40,187
Speaker 3: or welcome into the show, as the case may be.

817
00:41:40,867 --> 00:41:43,907
Speaker 3: Want to get you to Canada shortly to discuss this

818
00:41:45,547 --> 00:41:50,747
Speaker 3: rather significant punishment handed down to the Canadian women's football team.

819
00:41:51,587 --> 00:41:55,747
Speaker 3: It's a three pronged punishment. They've been docked points at

820
00:41:55,747 --> 00:41:59,747
Speaker 3: the Olympic Games, They've been handed a fairly hefty fine,

821
00:42:00,627 --> 00:42:02,907
Speaker 3: and their head coach and a couple of her assistants

822
00:42:02,947 --> 00:42:07,667
Speaker 3: have been banned from all football for a year. New

823
00:42:07,747 --> 00:42:09,387
Speaker 3: Zealand Football though, as you heard and then you're still

824
00:42:09,467 --> 00:42:12,747
Speaker 3: not that happy about it, you might have some views

825
00:42:12,787 --> 00:42:19,227
Speaker 3: on it. Textan Jason, how did our equestrian events go overnight?

826
00:42:19,307 --> 00:42:23,307
Speaker 3: I can tell you pretty well. New Zealand a fourth

827
00:42:23,987 --> 00:42:26,507
Speaker 3: after the dressage. In the three day event they go

828
00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:31,307
Speaker 3: dressage show jumping, no sorry, dressage, cross country show jumping.

829
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Speaker 3: New Zealand fourth overall and as far as the individuals

830
00:42:36,307 --> 00:42:38,867
Speaker 3: are concerned, Clark Johnston is the best of them, tied

831
00:42:38,947 --> 00:42:44,667
Speaker 3: for ninth individually, Tim Price twelfth and Janelle Price twenty seventh.

832
00:42:45,067 --> 00:42:50,787
Speaker 3: So that's how they have gone overnight. But to Canada

833
00:42:50,867 --> 00:42:54,107
Speaker 3: we go significant punishments for the Canadian women's football team

834
00:42:54,387 --> 00:42:58,147
Speaker 3: at the Paris Olympic Games. FIFA has announced a six

835
00:42:58,467 --> 00:43:02,267
Speaker 3: point deduction from their group tally at the Games. That've

836
00:43:02,347 --> 00:43:06,587
Speaker 3: been fined two hundred thousand Swiss francs, which is four

837
00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:09,267
Speaker 3: hundred thousand New Zealand dolls, and their head coach Bev

838
00:43:09,507 --> 00:43:13,467
Speaker 3: Priestman and two members of her staff have been banned

839
00:43:13,747 --> 00:43:17,867
Speaker 3: from all football activity for the period of a year.

840
00:43:18,307 --> 00:43:22,427
Speaker 3: Canadian support staff twice used drones to spy on New

841
00:43:22,547 --> 00:43:26,467
Speaker 3: Zealand training sessions ahead of their games opener on Thursday.

842
00:43:26,547 --> 00:43:30,187
Speaker 3: Canada won the match two to one, meaning they go

843
00:43:30,427 --> 00:43:34,907
Speaker 3: from minus six to minus three and stay last in

844
00:43:34,987 --> 00:43:38,627
Speaker 3: Group A. Incidentally, New Zealand don't get the points, it's

845
00:43:38,827 --> 00:43:43,347
Speaker 3: just Canada who lose them. Dylan Dyson is an Ottawa

846
00:43:43,427 --> 00:43:46,587
Speaker 3: based sports reporter who joins US on Weekend Sport. Dylan,

847
00:43:46,627 --> 00:43:49,187
Speaker 3: thanks for lending us your expertise. What did you make

848
00:43:49,307 --> 00:43:52,467
Speaker 3: first of all of these sanctions handed down by.

849
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Speaker 11: FIFA, Yeah, Jason, I thought these were some pretty heavy

850
00:43:56,907 --> 00:44:00,987
Speaker 11: handed sanctions were given to the Canadian women's national team.

851
00:44:02,387 --> 00:44:04,547
Speaker 11: You know, it's a triple whamy. It's the points deduction,

852
00:44:04,867 --> 00:44:08,907
Speaker 11: it's the suspension of the coach. And it's the financial

853
00:44:09,067 --> 00:44:12,627
Speaker 11: fine as well. I mean, anyone here who follows Canadian

854
00:44:12,667 --> 00:44:15,947
Speaker 11: soccer knows that Canada soccer has been in financial turmoil

855
00:44:16,027 --> 00:44:18,907
Speaker 11: for some time, so you know, just the extra fine

856
00:44:19,027 --> 00:44:20,587
Speaker 11: just you know, ads on top of it all. But

857
00:44:21,067 --> 00:44:24,987
Speaker 11: like you said, a minus three point total after one

858
00:44:25,107 --> 00:44:28,787
Speaker 11: game at the Olympics, I mean, I've never seen that

859
00:44:28,867 --> 00:44:31,947
Speaker 11: before in my life. We've seen you points deductions for

860
00:44:32,067 --> 00:44:36,347
Speaker 11: teams like Juventus or Everton, notdham Forrest this past year.

861
00:44:37,587 --> 00:44:40,267
Speaker 11: I've never seen the points total in the negatives. And

862
00:44:41,107 --> 00:44:43,667
Speaker 11: you know, all of this together seems very heavy handed

863
00:44:43,747 --> 00:44:46,267
Speaker 11: and I feel extremely bad for the players. I think

864
00:44:46,307 --> 00:44:50,187
Speaker 11: that's a sentiment all across Canada. It's the poor judgment

865
00:44:50,787 --> 00:44:55,067
Speaker 11: from the coaching staff to you know, blatantly cheat like this.

866
00:44:55,347 --> 00:44:59,667
Speaker 11: I mean, Canada are defending gold medal champions from the

867
00:44:59,747 --> 00:45:04,147
Speaker 11: Olympics in women's soccer, and you know there's no need

868
00:45:04,267 --> 00:45:06,187
Speaker 11: for them to go out and try and cheat this

869
00:45:06,347 --> 00:45:09,347
Speaker 11: where they have a strong team, and it's just it's

870
00:45:09,507 --> 00:45:15,187
Speaker 11: unethical in Canadians, in Canada's view. And you know, Canada

871
00:45:15,307 --> 00:45:17,987
Speaker 11: has this perception that we're all very nice over here

872
00:45:18,027 --> 00:45:20,507
Speaker 11: and to an extent that is true. But you know,

873
00:45:20,667 --> 00:45:23,387
Speaker 11: with that personality, you know, we also feel a great

874
00:45:23,427 --> 00:45:25,667
Speaker 11: deal of shame when things like this happen.

875
00:45:26,347 --> 00:45:29,707
Speaker 3: Sounds like a similar kind of psyche to what we

876
00:45:29,827 --> 00:45:32,907
Speaker 3: have here in New Zealand. How long do you think

877
00:45:33,027 --> 00:45:34,827
Speaker 3: this has been going on? Do you have a gut

878
00:45:34,907 --> 00:45:35,427
Speaker 3: feel on that.

879
00:45:37,227 --> 00:45:41,467
Speaker 11: It's it's really tough to to think about how long

880
00:45:41,587 --> 00:45:45,627
Speaker 11: that's been going on, because not long ago, just a

881
00:45:45,707 --> 00:45:48,947
Speaker 11: couple of days ago. John Herdman, who is currently head

882
00:45:49,027 --> 00:45:52,387
Speaker 11: coach at Toronto of C in the MLS, he was

883
00:45:53,067 --> 00:45:56,387
Speaker 11: the women's national team head coach prior to the Priestman,

884
00:45:57,907 --> 00:45:59,707
Speaker 11: and you know, he says, you know, this wasn't going

885
00:45:59,747 --> 00:46:03,947
Speaker 11: on under my watch. You know, he was head coach

886
00:46:04,147 --> 00:46:08,387
Speaker 11: for a number of years with the Canadian women's national

887
00:46:08,467 --> 00:46:12,987
Speaker 11: team and you know, drone usage recently kind of when

888
00:46:13,027 --> 00:46:15,387
Speaker 11: I say recently in air quotes, recently kind of came

889
00:46:15,427 --> 00:46:22,067
Speaker 11: into heavy usage in sports and recreationally. But he says

890
00:46:22,107 --> 00:46:24,907
Speaker 11: that never took place. And then you know, our sister

891
00:46:25,027 --> 00:46:28,907
Speaker 11: station here in Canada TSN reported that, you know, John

892
00:46:28,947 --> 00:46:33,627
Speaker 11: Herdman showed drone footage to you know, offwards of a

893
00:46:33,747 --> 00:46:37,787
Speaker 11: dozen seventeen players on the Canadian men's national team. When

894
00:46:37,827 --> 00:46:41,147
Speaker 11: he left the women's team, he joined the men's national team.

895
00:46:41,187 --> 00:46:44,987
Speaker 11: Now he's with Toronto i FC. Now it's it's bad

896
00:46:45,067 --> 00:46:48,027
Speaker 11: priestsman who's done this and has been successful with Canada.

897
00:46:48,147 --> 00:46:52,267
Speaker 11: So it's it's very disheartening and it's tough to imagine

898
00:46:52,347 --> 00:46:57,547
Speaker 11: how far back this could go. And to look at

899
00:46:57,627 --> 00:47:01,707
Speaker 11: Canada soccer as an organization. We have come so far

900
00:47:02,027 --> 00:47:05,307
Speaker 11: in such a short period of time over the last three,

901
00:47:05,467 --> 00:47:09,827
Speaker 11: four or five years. Is you know, great qualification campaign

902
00:47:09,907 --> 00:47:13,187
Speaker 11: for the twenty twenty two World Cup, a great showing

903
00:47:13,267 --> 00:47:16,787
Speaker 11: at the most recent Cocoa America tournament, and to think

904
00:47:17,227 --> 00:47:21,787
Speaker 11: a lot of that could be tarnished by the actions

905
00:47:21,867 --> 00:47:26,507
Speaker 11: and poor judgment of you know, a few coaching staff members.

906
00:47:27,227 --> 00:47:30,747
Speaker 11: It's a real gut punch to Canadian soccer fans.

907
00:47:31,587 --> 00:47:33,187
Speaker 3: Do you think the play is new?

908
00:47:36,987 --> 00:47:39,707
Speaker 11: That's that's that's a great question. I mean there's being

909
00:47:41,467 --> 00:47:46,467
Speaker 11: a lot of former women's national team players come out

910
00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:51,387
Speaker 11: to say they didn't know, you know, our greatest ever player,

911
00:47:51,547 --> 00:47:54,707
Speaker 11: Christine Sinclair, who scored you know, over three hundred goals

912
00:47:55,307 --> 00:47:58,227
Speaker 11: for Canada. She says, you know, they never saw any

913
00:47:58,267 --> 00:48:03,147
Speaker 11: footage of this type. You know, former goalkeepers coming out saying,

914
00:48:03,347 --> 00:48:06,987
Speaker 11: I did my research on penalty shootout to you know,

915
00:48:07,267 --> 00:48:11,947
Speaker 11: win US games. I never saw footage like that. So

916
00:48:12,187 --> 00:48:15,267
Speaker 11: it's you want to believe these players who put their

917
00:48:15,347 --> 00:48:18,187
Speaker 11: heart and soul into the match, who you know, kiss

918
00:48:18,267 --> 00:48:21,867
Speaker 11: the badge and pride every time they win for Canada,

919
00:48:23,547 --> 00:48:25,747
Speaker 11: and so you want to be on their side and

920
00:48:25,907 --> 00:48:29,867
Speaker 11: believe what that they're saying. They never saw any drone

921
00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:34,027
Speaker 11: footage or any any footage of that was used in

922
00:48:34,147 --> 00:48:39,267
Speaker 11: spying of other teams. But the more this scandal has

923
00:48:39,387 --> 00:48:43,347
Speaker 11: evolved and developed here on Canadian soil, the more we're

924
00:48:43,427 --> 00:48:46,987
Speaker 11: learning about it. You know, you know, did John Herdman

925
00:48:47,427 --> 00:48:50,667
Speaker 11: have any influence in this? Did Bev Priestman, you know,

926
00:48:50,947 --> 00:48:54,347
Speaker 11: learn some of these tactics from John Herdman. It's it's

927
00:48:54,427 --> 00:48:59,667
Speaker 11: all very murky, and it's you hope the players didn't

928
00:48:59,747 --> 00:49:01,547
Speaker 11: know much about it and it was kept within the

929
00:49:01,627 --> 00:49:05,627
Speaker 11: coaching staff, but it's it's impossible to say. And I mean, frankly,

930
00:49:05,627 --> 00:49:07,347
Speaker 11: I don't think you're going to have players come out

931
00:49:07,427 --> 00:49:09,627
Speaker 11: and admit that they were part of a cheating scandal.

932
00:49:09,747 --> 00:49:14,387
Speaker 3: So of course, no beef Priceman as a Sai Band

933
00:49:14,507 --> 00:49:17,147
Speaker 3: for a year. But this is the end of her

934
00:49:17,307 --> 00:49:21,107
Speaker 3: surely as head coach of the Canadian women's football team,

935
00:49:21,147 --> 00:49:21,427
Speaker 3: isn't it.

936
00:49:23,387 --> 00:49:26,507
Speaker 11: I mean you have to imagine, so, I mean, a

937
00:49:26,627 --> 00:49:28,707
Speaker 11: year out of football, it's just going to be damaging

938
00:49:28,867 --> 00:49:34,467
Speaker 11: for anybody. But like I said earlier, I mean us Canadians,

939
00:49:34,907 --> 00:49:40,347
Speaker 11: we pride ourselves on being ethical, being fair in everything

940
00:49:40,387 --> 00:49:43,347
Speaker 11: we do. That includes sport, and the shames that the

941
00:49:43,467 --> 00:49:49,627
Speaker 11: nation is fealing right now from this drone gate scandal.

942
00:49:49,267 --> 00:49:50,987
Speaker 8: That it's being called.

943
00:49:52,787 --> 00:49:56,307
Speaker 11: She is I can probably say with confidence from my

944
00:49:57,027 --> 00:50:00,707
Speaker 11: opinion that she will not be returning to the Canadian

945
00:50:00,707 --> 00:50:03,707
Speaker 11: women's national team. I just can't see Canada Soccer taking

946
00:50:04,347 --> 00:50:07,947
Speaker 11: her back as a head coach coach, especially with new

947
00:50:08,267 --> 00:50:11,387
Speaker 11: leadership at the top of Canada Soccer trying to you know,

948
00:50:11,627 --> 00:50:17,267
Speaker 11: sort out what it's called as a systematic failure in

949
00:50:17,387 --> 00:50:21,547
Speaker 11: terms of you know, this these ethical findings. The Canada

950
00:50:21,587 --> 00:50:25,547
Speaker 11: Soccer is doing an external or having an external investigation done,

951
00:50:25,947 --> 00:50:29,267
Speaker 11: you know, following these revelations. And you know new CEO

952
00:50:29,507 --> 00:50:31,947
Speaker 11: Kevin Blue you said, you know, he used that word

953
00:50:32,107 --> 00:50:35,387
Speaker 11: systematic more than once in the most recent press conference.

954
00:50:35,467 --> 00:50:40,547
Speaker 11: So that gives you an indication that this kind of behavior,

955
00:50:40,627 --> 00:50:43,587
Speaker 11: these actions go back much further than just you know,

956
00:50:43,947 --> 00:50:48,507
Speaker 11: this one time use. So it's it's you know, in

957
00:50:48,587 --> 00:50:51,267
Speaker 11: my view, near impossible to say that preasonable will return

958
00:50:51,347 --> 00:50:53,387
Speaker 11: to the Canadian women's national team and.

959
00:50:53,467 --> 00:50:57,347
Speaker 3: Just back onto the grass. Dylan. As we've mentioned the

960
00:50:57,547 --> 00:50:59,907
Speaker 3: six point deduction, the three they got for the winner

961
00:50:59,947 --> 00:51:02,507
Speaker 3: of New Zealand. They are at minus three. They could

962
00:51:02,627 --> 00:51:07,747
Speaker 3: get to three points if they bate both Columbia and France,

963
00:51:08,107 --> 00:51:10,467
Speaker 3: so all is not lost. But what do you think

964
00:51:10,507 --> 00:51:12,947
Speaker 3: this will do to the to the playing group. Will

965
00:51:12,987 --> 00:51:18,547
Speaker 3: they be galvanized, will they be demoralized? What sort what

966
00:51:18,707 --> 00:51:20,067
Speaker 3: do you expect from the players?

967
00:51:22,227 --> 00:51:24,427
Speaker 11: Well from let me let me say this rate from

968
00:51:24,467 --> 00:51:26,747
Speaker 11: a job, from a fans perspective, I think a lot

969
00:51:26,827 --> 00:51:29,627
Speaker 11: of fans think it's near impossible for the team to

970
00:51:30,067 --> 00:51:33,867
Speaker 11: dig itself out of this minus three points hole right now.

971
00:51:34,387 --> 00:51:39,347
Speaker 11: But as a player, I think it's going to motivate

972
00:51:39,427 --> 00:51:41,667
Speaker 11: them in the fact that they're going to go out

973
00:51:41,707 --> 00:51:43,827
Speaker 11: there and they have to prove now that you know,

974
00:51:44,027 --> 00:51:48,187
Speaker 11: they're not relying on drone footage, you know, spying tactics

975
00:51:48,227 --> 00:51:50,307
Speaker 11: on other teams just to be able to win they're

976
00:51:50,347 --> 00:51:52,387
Speaker 11: going to want to go out there show that they

977
00:51:52,507 --> 00:51:57,307
Speaker 11: have the skills, the fortitude, the team spirit and the

978
00:51:58,267 --> 00:52:01,947
Speaker 11: ethical play that can beat any other team in the world,

979
00:52:02,147 --> 00:52:05,987
Speaker 11: as they did the last Olympic Games. So I really

980
00:52:05,987 --> 00:52:08,627
Speaker 11: think it's going to motivate them to show what they

981
00:52:08,707 --> 00:52:12,147
Speaker 11: can do. And like we've said, Honey, a minus three

982
00:52:12,187 --> 00:52:15,467
Speaker 11: points total, if a team can come back from that

983
00:52:15,707 --> 00:52:19,387
Speaker 11: and qualify out of a group stage, I mean that'll

984
00:52:19,427 --> 00:52:21,067
Speaker 11: be talked about for years to come.

985
00:52:22,107 --> 00:52:24,307
Speaker 3: Dylan, great to get your insight. Thanks for joining us

986
00:52:24,307 --> 00:52:26,467
Speaker 3: across New Zealand. We'll look forward to seeing how this

987
00:52:26,547 --> 00:52:29,227
Speaker 3: plays out, certainly on the grass and off the field

988
00:52:29,267 --> 00:52:31,827
Speaker 3: as well in the time ahead. I appreciate you taking

989
00:52:31,827 --> 00:52:32,787
Speaker 3: the time for a chat today.

990
00:52:32,947 --> 00:52:35,267
Speaker 8: All Right, cheers, Thanks Jason, No, thank you, Dylan.

991
00:52:35,427 --> 00:52:41,827
Speaker 3: That is Dylan Dyson, Ottawa based sports reporter New Zealand Football.

992
00:52:41,867 --> 00:52:44,507
Speaker 3: As you might have heard in our sports news please

993
00:52:44,627 --> 00:52:47,627
Speaker 3: to see swift action. But they say that issues remain

994
00:52:48,547 --> 00:52:52,307
Speaker 3: given that Canada and I'll quote here likely had an

995
00:52:52,507 --> 00:52:58,067
Speaker 3: unfair sporting advantage gained by filming our key tactical sessions.

996
00:52:59,507 --> 00:53:02,867
Speaker 3: Now it's impossible to quantify whether that is true or not.

997
00:53:03,507 --> 00:53:07,787
Speaker 3: It is impossible to know whether Canada's went over New

998
00:53:07,867 --> 00:53:11,667
Speaker 3: Zealand had any direct or in direct connection to the

999
00:53:11,707 --> 00:53:16,747
Speaker 3: footage that was secretly filmed by these drones. You can't

1000
00:53:16,827 --> 00:53:21,027
Speaker 3: say if they didn't have drones filming New Zealand's training

1001
00:53:21,107 --> 00:53:26,307
Speaker 3: session that they wouldn't have won. It's impossible. Now Canada

1002
00:53:26,427 --> 00:53:30,627
Speaker 3: Soccer are considering an appeal. They reckon the points penalty

1003
00:53:30,907 --> 00:53:35,787
Speaker 3: is excessively punitive for their players, heavy handed, in other words,

1004
00:53:36,347 --> 00:53:42,267
Speaker 3: who they say weren't involved in any unethical behavior. But

1005
00:53:42,347 --> 00:53:44,867
Speaker 3: football is a team game, isn't it? All for one

1006
00:53:44,907 --> 00:53:48,507
Speaker 3: and one for all, live and die collectively by individual

1007
00:53:48,587 --> 00:53:52,947
Speaker 3: decisions made by team players. That's how every team at

1008
00:53:52,947 --> 00:53:55,587
Speaker 3: an elite level will tell you ad nauseum that they

1009
00:53:55,627 --> 00:53:59,147
Speaker 3: are all in this together. I think they should have

1010
00:53:59,147 --> 00:54:03,147
Speaker 3: been kicked out. If they had been kicked out, Would

1011
00:54:03,147 --> 00:54:04,387
Speaker 3: there have already been a big uproar?

1012
00:54:05,227 --> 00:54:05,667
Speaker 15: I doubt it.

1013
00:54:07,427 --> 00:54:10,427
Speaker 3: That's often a gauge on these things. If you say, okay,

1014
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:12,587
Speaker 3: had they done this, what would the reaction have been?

1015
00:54:13,947 --> 00:54:16,867
Speaker 3: I think if Canada had been kicked out, I'm not

1016
00:54:16,947 --> 00:54:20,107
Speaker 3: sure that there would have been widespread wailing and gnashing

1017
00:54:20,107 --> 00:54:23,947
Speaker 3: of teeth about it. I still don't think New Zealand

1018
00:54:23,947 --> 00:54:26,347
Speaker 3: should get the points. I just something in me just

1019
00:54:26,387 --> 00:54:30,387
Speaker 3: says that's not right. I know when there's a default

1020
00:54:30,467 --> 00:54:33,547
Speaker 3: in a game for whatever reason. You know, you play

1021
00:54:33,587 --> 00:54:38,787
Speaker 3: an ineligible player or whatever happens, or your default. Someone

1022
00:54:38,907 --> 00:54:42,787
Speaker 3: said her, stop saying soccer. It's football, mate. If you've

1023
00:54:42,907 --> 00:54:45,187
Speaker 3: listened to me for any length of time, you'll know.

1024
00:54:45,347 --> 00:54:48,347
Speaker 3: I know it's football. I said Canada Soccer because that's

1025
00:54:48,387 --> 00:54:51,667
Speaker 3: the name of the organization, all right, They're called Canada Soccer.

1026
00:54:52,027 --> 00:54:57,027
Speaker 3: I know it's football, mate. Anyway, I digress. I still

1027
00:54:57,067 --> 00:54:58,747
Speaker 3: don't like the idea of New Zealand geting the points.

1028
00:54:58,787 --> 00:55:01,347
Speaker 3: That doesn't feel right to me. They didn't earn the points, right,

1029
00:55:02,307 --> 00:55:03,707
Speaker 3: They didn't go out there on the grass and nearing

1030
00:55:03,787 --> 00:55:06,987
Speaker 3: the points. And you really can't tell me that Canada

1031
00:55:07,147 --> 00:55:13,947
Speaker 3: had any information gleaned only from those drones, which were

1032
00:55:14,067 --> 00:55:20,347
Speaker 3: the pivotal reason they beat us. Did the players know?

1033
00:55:22,627 --> 00:55:27,507
Speaker 3: This is a really interesting question for me, And even

1034
00:55:27,787 --> 00:55:31,707
Speaker 3: Dylan wasn't able to unequivocally say whether they knew or

1035
00:55:31,787 --> 00:55:34,947
Speaker 3: not because he doesn't know. But you try, you put

1036
00:55:34,987 --> 00:55:37,107
Speaker 3: yourself in the position of the players right now, try

1037
00:55:37,147 --> 00:55:39,747
Speaker 3: to do this. Just go with me on this. You're

1038
00:55:39,827 --> 00:55:43,467
Speaker 3: in the you're in the in camp, you're preparing for

1039
00:55:43,587 --> 00:55:47,187
Speaker 3: a game, and you're as part of the preparation for

1040
00:55:47,227 --> 00:55:50,747
Speaker 3: that game showing you know, hey, we think this is

1041
00:55:50,827 --> 00:55:54,907
Speaker 3: how New Zealand are going to play. We think that

1042
00:55:54,987 --> 00:55:57,267
Speaker 3: they might you know, attack down the left hand side,

1043
00:55:57,427 --> 00:55:59,667
Speaker 3: or they might you know, when they take their corners

1044
00:56:00,107 --> 00:56:01,987
Speaker 3: they swing them in rather than swing them at or

1045
00:56:02,067 --> 00:56:04,667
Speaker 3: something like that. This is all just hypothetical stuff. And

1046
00:56:04,787 --> 00:56:07,707
Speaker 3: if you reply you did you automatically think, oh, they've

1047
00:56:07,747 --> 00:56:11,507
Speaker 3: got that from a drone or would you just think that, hey,

1048
00:56:11,587 --> 00:56:16,187
Speaker 3: we've got really really good technical analysts who have found

1049
00:56:16,227 --> 00:56:19,307
Speaker 3: out a heck of a lot about our opposition. And

1050
00:56:19,427 --> 00:56:22,107
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know which it is. Did

1051
00:56:22,187 --> 00:56:29,747
Speaker 3: the players know. I think it's almost impossible that at

1052
00:56:29,867 --> 00:56:34,467
Speaker 3: least some of them didn't know. In other words, I

1053
00:56:34,547 --> 00:56:37,547
Speaker 3: think some of them knew. I think there was probably

1054
00:56:37,587 --> 00:56:40,627
Speaker 3: an inner circle of players in that team close to

1055
00:56:40,707 --> 00:56:43,907
Speaker 3: Bev Priestman, the head coach, who knew exactly what was

1056
00:56:43,947 --> 00:56:48,547
Speaker 3: going on, who knew that intel on opposition teams. And

1057
00:56:48,667 --> 00:56:50,827
Speaker 3: make no mistake about it, this is not just New Zealand.

1058
00:56:52,067 --> 00:56:56,547
Speaker 3: They got caught doing it. Against US. There was a

1059
00:56:56,627 --> 00:57:01,027
Speaker 3: group of players I'm sure in that team who were

1060
00:57:01,107 --> 00:57:03,747
Speaker 3: in some sort of inner circle that were let in

1061
00:57:03,867 --> 00:57:08,107
Speaker 3: on what was going on and were I don't know

1062
00:57:08,107 --> 00:57:10,067
Speaker 3: if that were they were sworn to secrecy. They were

1063
00:57:10,147 --> 00:57:12,267
Speaker 3: just you know, that just made sense for a few

1064
00:57:12,347 --> 00:57:15,907
Speaker 3: people to know. There might have been players who had

1065
00:57:15,987 --> 00:57:18,667
Speaker 3: no idea, and in fact, I'm sure that's probably true too.

1066
00:57:20,267 --> 00:57:22,107
Speaker 3: I'm sure there were some players who just you know,

1067
00:57:22,267 --> 00:57:25,227
Speaker 3: sat in a tactical season, looked at a whiteboard, took

1068
00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:26,947
Speaker 3: in the information that was given to them by the

1069
00:57:27,027 --> 00:57:28,707
Speaker 3: head coach and other members of the coaching staff, and

1070
00:57:28,747 --> 00:57:31,427
Speaker 3: thought that's helpful. That'll be helpful when we play New

1071
00:57:31,507 --> 00:57:35,227
Speaker 3: Zealand on Thursday. I think there's some players who didn't know.

1072
00:57:36,427 --> 00:57:38,107
Speaker 3: I reckon there might have been some players who did.

1073
00:57:40,107 --> 00:57:42,907
Speaker 3: I think they should have been kicked out. One twenty

1074
00:57:42,947 --> 00:57:44,267
Speaker 3: four News talks they'd be back after.

1075
00:57:44,187 --> 00:57:47,947
Speaker 1: This the tough questions off the turf weekends for It

1076
00:57:48,227 --> 00:57:52,187
Speaker 1: with Jason Paine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted

1077
00:57:52,227 --> 00:57:52,747
Speaker 1: home builder.

1078
00:57:54,267 --> 00:57:57,547
Speaker 3: One twenty six heap through on text text here it's soccer.

1079
00:57:59,307 --> 00:58:02,067
Speaker 3: I love it. I love a good soccer V football debate.

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00:58:03,067 --> 00:58:06,587
Speaker 3: Hello Praven, great, thank you.

1081
00:58:07,747 --> 00:58:11,067
Speaker 20: Yeah, I've got my views on this Canadian team. I

1082
00:58:11,307 --> 00:58:14,267
Speaker 20: don't think the players should be penalized. I think that

1083
00:58:14,507 --> 00:58:18,227
Speaker 20: enough for the coaches. You've played the fine and the

1084
00:58:18,307 --> 00:58:21,747
Speaker 20: coaches are doing the time. Those guys actually work four

1085
00:58:21,867 --> 00:58:24,227
Speaker 20: years really hard to actually get where they are kind

1086
00:58:24,227 --> 00:58:26,987
Speaker 20: of the and I don't think that players should be

1087
00:58:27,187 --> 00:58:28,707
Speaker 20: penalized for their hard work.

1088
00:58:29,867 --> 00:58:33,467
Speaker 3: I sympathize with that view, Privein, I really do. And

1089
00:58:33,907 --> 00:58:36,387
Speaker 3: you know, a big part of me, when I said

1090
00:58:36,427 --> 00:58:38,867
Speaker 3: before I think they should be kicked out sort of

1091
00:58:38,907 --> 00:58:41,067
Speaker 3: felt a little bit icky about saying it for that

1092
00:58:41,347 --> 00:58:44,347
Speaker 3: very reason that you're bringing up, because there are people here,

1093
00:58:44,427 --> 00:58:47,107
Speaker 3: I'm sure who are victims within the Canadian side as well.

1094
00:58:47,187 --> 00:58:50,467
Speaker 3: But it feels to me as though you can't just

1095
00:58:50,587 --> 00:58:53,507
Speaker 3: punish half of an organization, if you know what I mean.

1096
00:58:54,747 --> 00:58:58,067
Speaker 20: Yeah, but the thing is you have to be careful.

1097
00:58:59,627 --> 00:59:04,147
Speaker 20: It's like in a classroom, if one could, if the

1098
00:59:04,227 --> 00:59:07,387
Speaker 20: principal player plays up, we get of all the all

1099
00:59:07,467 --> 00:59:10,547
Speaker 20: the kids out of the classroom. So it's it's a

1100
00:59:10,627 --> 00:59:12,987
Speaker 20: catch twenty two. We got to be careful where we go.

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00:59:13,107 --> 00:59:16,027
Speaker 3: With the same Yeah, No, that's that's a good, good analogy.

1102
00:59:16,187 --> 00:59:18,907
Speaker 3: That's a good I guess. I mean, like I said before,

1103
00:59:18,947 --> 00:59:22,947
Speaker 3: proving you know, sports teams are always all about togetherness,

1104
00:59:22,987 --> 00:59:25,427
Speaker 3: aren't they. You know, they went together, they lose together.

1105
00:59:25,467 --> 00:59:28,987
Speaker 3: I know this is different because it's illegality, but look,

1106
00:59:28,987 --> 00:59:30,347
Speaker 3: I take your point and if I was, if I

1107
00:59:30,467 --> 00:59:33,467
Speaker 3: was one of those players, I'd be absolutely gutted, absolutely

1108
00:59:33,467 --> 00:59:34,787
Speaker 3: gut especially if I didn't know.

1109
00:59:35,107 --> 00:59:38,587
Speaker 20: If I didn't know, just have a look at what

1110
00:59:39,027 --> 00:59:42,107
Speaker 20: the referee done to all blacks in the last World

1111
00:59:42,147 --> 00:59:42,707
Speaker 20: Cup finals.

1112
00:59:45,627 --> 00:59:47,827
Speaker 3: There was a that was a swift change of subjects.

1113
00:59:47,947 --> 00:59:52,987
Speaker 20: Puffy, you think about all those you know, no one

1114
00:59:53,067 --> 00:59:55,747
Speaker 20: got penalized for that. You know, we we took it

1115
00:59:55,867 --> 00:59:58,547
Speaker 20: on the chin, and I think the next World Cup

1116
00:59:58,587 --> 00:59:59,867
Speaker 20: will be a better team kind of thing.

1117
01:00:00,107 --> 01:00:03,107
Speaker 8: Good, we played a better, better game.

1118
01:00:03,547 --> 01:00:06,187
Speaker 20: But the thing is, I still don't think that, you know,

1119
01:00:06,427 --> 01:00:09,587
Speaker 20: taking three points of those girls, or taking six minus

1120
01:00:09,627 --> 01:00:13,467
Speaker 20: six for a start, that is very harsh. I think

1121
01:00:13,507 --> 01:00:15,187
Speaker 20: they should have called the game with the fairs game

1122
01:00:15,267 --> 01:00:17,707
Speaker 20: of draw and give it given one points to or

1123
01:00:17,787 --> 01:00:20,467
Speaker 20: even give three points to q Gills, one to the

1124
01:00:21,427 --> 01:00:23,867
Speaker 20: to the Canadian and then the second round we go

1125
01:00:23,987 --> 01:00:24,827
Speaker 20: from there. Kind of thing.

1126
01:00:25,147 --> 01:00:28,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've never heard of it proven actually in

1127
01:00:28,507 --> 01:00:30,747
Speaker 3: a tournament situation like this where you've got such a

1128
01:00:30,827 --> 01:00:34,827
Speaker 3: limited time to game points, you know, and Dylan even said,

1129
01:00:34,867 --> 01:00:37,187
Speaker 3: you know, you look at Everton and Nottingham Forest in

1130
01:00:37,187 --> 01:00:39,147
Speaker 3: the latest Premier League season. They were docked points for

1131
01:00:39,427 --> 01:00:41,587
Speaker 3: for breaking financial fair play rules, but they had a

1132
01:00:41,627 --> 01:00:43,787
Speaker 3: thirty eight game season to make up the make up

1133
01:00:43,827 --> 01:00:46,507
Speaker 3: the difference, and both of them did. But when you've

1134
01:00:46,547 --> 01:00:49,147
Speaker 3: only got three games and your minus six at the start,

1135
01:00:49,627 --> 01:00:53,707
Speaker 3: the most you can get to is three again, you know,

1136
01:00:53,827 --> 01:00:56,787
Speaker 3: it's some Some would say, actually, you've got off lightly

1137
01:00:57,467 --> 01:00:59,747
Speaker 3: great to chatty praving, thanks for calling, and mate, oh

1138
01:00:59,787 --> 01:01:02,027
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number, hello Andrew?

1139
01:01:03,587 --> 01:01:06,027
Speaker 21: Oh hi, Hey, if one player knew, then they should

1140
01:01:06,067 --> 01:01:09,827
Speaker 21: be done the points. But my real question is why

1141
01:01:10,187 --> 01:01:12,427
Speaker 21: why were they film in New Zealand and they're not

1142
01:01:12,547 --> 01:01:15,867
Speaker 21: seeing how useless New Zealand women's teams are. I mean,

1143
01:01:15,907 --> 01:01:18,947
Speaker 21: they're just not terrible, They're terrible, so I couldn't imagine

1144
01:01:18,947 --> 01:01:21,347
Speaker 21: why they even needed to bother filming them.

1145
01:01:21,747 --> 01:01:24,067
Speaker 3: Andrew, what I reckon and I don't know this to

1146
01:01:24,147 --> 01:01:27,667
Speaker 3: be true, but what I reckon is that they've been

1147
01:01:27,707 --> 01:01:29,227
Speaker 3: doing it for every team they play.

1148
01:01:30,627 --> 01:01:35,187
Speaker 21: Ah, yes, okay, yeah, no, I get that now, because

1149
01:01:35,627 --> 01:01:37,627
Speaker 21: they could just watch film when you seland and not

1150
01:01:37,787 --> 01:01:40,307
Speaker 21: be scared at all. You know, I was surprised there

1151
01:01:40,387 --> 01:01:41,467
Speaker 21: was two one to be honest.

1152
01:01:41,787 --> 01:01:45,347
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'd be doing it for everyone, right Yeah.

1153
01:01:45,307 --> 01:01:48,107
Speaker 21: Yeah, they're definitely, but it's so proof of that. They

1154
01:01:48,147 --> 01:01:52,147
Speaker 21: wouldn't be sitting there thinking New Zealand so good and

1155
01:01:52,227 --> 01:01:52,507
Speaker 21: we're so.

1156
01:01:52,627 --> 01:01:53,347
Speaker 8: Worried about them.

1157
01:01:53,387 --> 01:01:54,987
Speaker 21: You're right that we're going to film them.

1158
01:01:55,347 --> 01:01:57,427
Speaker 13: That's that's not something you do, No, Andrew.

1159
01:01:57,427 --> 01:01:59,347
Speaker 3: I agree. If they were going to if they looked

1160
01:01:59,347 --> 01:02:02,707
Speaker 3: at their group and said, right, Columbia, France, New Zealand,

1161
01:02:02,747 --> 01:02:05,187
Speaker 3: we've got one chance to spy who were going to choose,

1162
01:02:05,187 --> 01:02:08,667
Speaker 3: they wouldn't choose us, right Yeah.

1163
01:02:08,747 --> 01:02:13,787
Speaker 21: So anyway, I didn't play. I knew about it, and

1164
01:02:13,907 --> 01:02:16,147
Speaker 21: that should be if it was just the coaches, but

1165
01:02:16,267 --> 01:02:19,707
Speaker 21: then that would influence the coaches' direction to the players.

1166
01:02:19,747 --> 01:02:21,507
Speaker 21: So yeah, they should be even if they didn't tell

1167
01:02:21,547 --> 01:02:24,667
Speaker 21: the players, there should be doctor points just for stupidity.

1168
01:02:26,067 --> 01:02:29,507
Speaker 3: That's right, You've been stupid here, so they stay the points.

1169
01:02:29,587 --> 01:02:29,787
Speaker 8: Nine.

1170
01:02:29,947 --> 01:02:31,907
Speaker 3: Sorry, I wasn't big Forastial said, A good point you make,

1171
01:02:32,547 --> 01:02:34,747
Speaker 3: and I honestly do think that this isn't the one off.

1172
01:02:35,387 --> 01:02:37,067
Speaker 3: I just think this is the first time they've been caught.

1173
01:02:37,827 --> 01:02:39,787
Speaker 3: All the all the rhetoric I've seen in the last

1174
01:02:39,787 --> 01:02:43,707
Speaker 3: little while is that they've been doing this for ages. Hello, Richard.

1175
01:02:45,387 --> 01:02:47,987
Speaker 14: Piney. I don't think there's any doubt they should have

1176
01:02:48,027 --> 01:02:52,747
Speaker 14: been kicked out. Just to imagine, if the coach of

1177
01:02:53,147 --> 01:02:58,627
Speaker 14: the Jamaican four by one RelA team had been discovered

1178
01:02:58,667 --> 01:03:01,067
Speaker 14: that he'd been giving steroids to one of his runners

1179
01:03:01,827 --> 01:03:04,107
Speaker 14: on the day before of the final of the four

1180
01:03:04,147 --> 01:03:07,147
Speaker 14: by his relay, you reckon they get that get kept

1181
01:03:07,227 --> 01:03:09,547
Speaker 14: kicked out. Of course they would. And if you want

1182
01:03:09,587 --> 01:03:12,307
Speaker 14: to know why, you go back to the greatest French

1183
01:03:12,507 --> 01:03:17,747
Speaker 14: sporting team of all, the Three Musketeers, and what was

1184
01:03:17,787 --> 01:03:18,307
Speaker 14: their motto?

1185
01:03:19,427 --> 01:03:20,547
Speaker 20: All for one and one for all.

1186
01:03:20,587 --> 01:03:22,547
Speaker 14: And that's what happens when you're in a team. If

1187
01:03:22,587 --> 01:03:26,667
Speaker 14: somebody in the team screws up, the whole team takes

1188
01:03:26,707 --> 01:03:29,107
Speaker 14: the penalty. And that's why Canada should have been booted.

1189
01:03:29,307 --> 01:03:31,707
Speaker 14: And it's got nothing to do with Oh, the players

1190
01:03:31,787 --> 01:03:36,027
Speaker 14: didn't know, that's irrelevant. The players got the advantage from it.

1191
01:03:37,347 --> 01:03:39,787
Speaker 3: That's actually a really good analogy you use, Richard. You

1192
01:03:39,827 --> 01:03:43,187
Speaker 3: know two forms of cheating, and you know in a

1193
01:03:43,667 --> 01:03:47,747
Speaker 3: relay team, so the coach says to the anchor league bloke,

1194
01:03:48,027 --> 01:03:50,267
Speaker 3: are you you know have some of this? The other

1195
01:03:50,347 --> 01:03:53,427
Speaker 3: three don't know. They just think they makes really fast.

1196
01:03:53,467 --> 01:03:56,827
Speaker 3: So yeah, the whole team should go. You're right, absolutely.

1197
01:03:58,067 --> 01:04:01,227
Speaker 14: I don't see why it's even being debated, and I

1198
01:04:01,387 --> 01:04:05,707
Speaker 14: can't believe that Canada are appealing it. They should shut up,

1199
01:04:06,507 --> 01:04:08,347
Speaker 14: they need us and then get away and vow to

1200
01:04:08,427 --> 01:04:08,907
Speaker 14: do better.

1201
01:04:10,867 --> 01:04:13,547
Speaker 3: Good point, well made, Richard, Thank you, mate. Drive safe.

1202
01:04:14,547 --> 01:04:16,467
Speaker 3: I got to move because I want to I want

1203
01:04:16,507 --> 01:04:20,427
Speaker 3: to preview the basketball. Quick question though, from Mark on

1204
01:04:20,507 --> 01:04:23,467
Speaker 3: the drone? Mark, what's your question about the drone? Here

1205
01:04:23,507 --> 01:04:24,747
Speaker 3: we're going, buddy, Well, I got two.

1206
01:04:24,787 --> 01:04:27,867
Speaker 18: Actually, the caller just before calling the New Zealand soccer

1207
01:04:27,947 --> 01:04:30,547
Speaker 18: team useless, mate. If they were useless, they wouldn't be

1208
01:04:30,587 --> 01:04:31,227
Speaker 18: at the Olympics.

1209
01:04:31,267 --> 01:04:33,627
Speaker 9: So maybe he wants to rethink his wording.

1210
01:04:35,507 --> 01:04:36,187
Speaker 8: On the drone.

1211
01:04:36,747 --> 01:04:38,267
Speaker 3: Where did the drone come from?

1212
01:04:38,507 --> 01:04:40,667
Speaker 21: Did they bring it in themselves or do they buy

1213
01:04:40,707 --> 01:04:42,747
Speaker 21: it in France? And if they did bring it in,

1214
01:04:43,147 --> 01:04:44,187
Speaker 21: why were they allowed to?

1215
01:04:44,507 --> 01:04:47,067
Speaker 3: I know drones are used by every team for their

1216
01:04:47,107 --> 01:04:50,347
Speaker 3: own sessions. Mark the All Blacks use them, The Phoenix

1217
01:04:50,467 --> 01:04:53,907
Speaker 3: used them, Every professional club used as a drone. You're

1218
01:04:53,987 --> 01:04:56,147
Speaker 3: just not supposed to spy on other people with it.

1219
01:04:57,467 --> 01:05:00,027
Speaker 18: Okay, all right, Yeah, I just wondered where it came from.

1220
01:05:00,107 --> 01:05:01,787
Speaker 3: That was all Yeah, I'm pretty sure it came in

1221
01:05:01,907 --> 01:05:06,227
Speaker 3: with them, and it's allowed. In fact, the I saw

1222
01:05:06,467 --> 01:05:11,467
Speaker 3: this thing actually the recruitment ad for one of the

1223
01:05:11,507 --> 01:05:14,747
Speaker 3: Canadian assistant coaches, and some of the skills that you

1224
01:05:14,827 --> 01:05:17,947
Speaker 3: needed one was being able to fly drone, not to

1225
01:05:18,027 --> 01:05:20,667
Speaker 3: film other people, to film your own sessions. It's common,

1226
01:05:20,907 --> 01:05:24,907
Speaker 3: really ready common news talks here beat twenty six to

1227
01:05:24,987 --> 01:05:27,707
Speaker 3: two the Cells NBL finals this afternoon. This is the

1228
01:05:27,787 --> 01:05:31,027
Speaker 3: National Basketball League Cannavary Rams Auckland to a TATA tip

1229
01:05:31,107 --> 01:05:35,747
Speaker 3: off two thirty Cows Stadium, christ Church. Justin Nelson has

1230
01:05:35,827 --> 01:05:37,907
Speaker 3: the call on Sky. He joins us, Now, Justin, have

1231
01:05:37,987 --> 01:05:40,987
Speaker 3: we got the Sorry, I just had to put you

1232
01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:43,427
Speaker 3: on the air. Have we got the best two teams

1233
01:05:43,667 --> 01:05:44,187
Speaker 3: in the final?

1234
01:05:45,467 --> 01:05:47,867
Speaker 17: Yeah, I definitely think we have. They finished one and two.

1235
01:05:48,107 --> 01:05:50,707
Speaker 17: Of course, the Rams went on that sixteen game winning

1236
01:05:50,787 --> 01:05:51,947
Speaker 17: streak through the season.

1237
01:05:52,027 --> 01:05:53,067
Speaker 8: The Tuatara had.

1238
01:05:52,907 --> 01:05:56,107
Speaker 17: A ten game winning streak. Definitely the best two teams

1239
01:05:56,187 --> 01:05:59,707
Speaker 17: and not surprisingly given the way they've built their rosters

1240
01:05:59,747 --> 01:06:01,947
Speaker 17: over the last couple of years. We have a back

1241
01:06:01,987 --> 01:06:04,027
Speaker 17: to back Grand Final rematch.

1242
01:06:04,467 --> 01:06:07,067
Speaker 3: Who are the favorites? Then this afternoon justin.

1243
01:06:07,547 --> 01:06:08,827
Speaker 8: Well, Rams will start favorites.

1244
01:06:08,867 --> 01:06:10,907
Speaker 17: I mean, they're on their home deck. They've had a

1245
01:06:10,987 --> 01:06:14,107
Speaker 17: really good record at Cal's Stadium over the last couple

1246
01:06:14,147 --> 01:06:17,107
Speaker 17: of years. Interestingly, though, they did lose to the tour

1247
01:06:17,147 --> 01:06:20,987
Speaker 17: Atara earlier this season at Cowl Stadium. That was the

1248
01:06:21,107 --> 01:06:24,667
Speaker 17: game when the Tuatara came out and put together a

1249
01:06:24,787 --> 01:06:28,147
Speaker 17: forty seven point second quarter to go on and take

1250
01:06:28,147 --> 01:06:31,187
Speaker 17: the win. However, the Rams on that day didn't have

1251
01:06:31,307 --> 01:06:34,387
Speaker 17: Lucky Old Brick MVP of the league this season, and

1252
01:06:34,667 --> 01:06:38,507
Speaker 17: didn't have star import kJ Buff and both of those

1253
01:06:38,587 --> 01:06:40,147
Speaker 17: players will be running around today.

1254
01:06:40,627 --> 01:06:43,587
Speaker 3: That's an outlier, though. Wasn't that a forty seven point quarter?

1255
01:06:45,107 --> 01:06:45,307
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1256
01:06:45,387 --> 01:06:45,667
Speaker 2: It is.

1257
01:06:45,787 --> 01:06:47,867
Speaker 17: You don't often see it. I think for memory. They

1258
01:06:47,947 --> 01:06:51,227
Speaker 17: hit something like nineteen of twenty one shots from the field,

1259
01:06:51,347 --> 01:06:54,467
Speaker 17: and you know, Corey Webs to rob Low, Tom Danovich,

1260
01:06:54,547 --> 01:06:58,947
Speaker 17: they just all fired and caught I suppose caught the

1261
01:06:59,027 --> 01:07:02,707
Speaker 17: Rams off guard at that particular time, and it's one

1262
01:07:02,747 --> 01:07:05,547
Speaker 17: of those quarters in basketball that you just dream of.

1263
01:07:06,027 --> 01:07:08,947
Speaker 3: This season has thrown up so many different storylines and

1264
01:07:09,027 --> 01:07:11,587
Speaker 3: we almost had another one when the Tananhaky Airs were

1265
01:07:11,627 --> 01:07:14,267
Speaker 3: at cal Stadium a week or so ago against the

1266
01:07:14,307 --> 01:07:16,707
Speaker 3: Canterbury Rams. W what do we go to? Two periods

1267
01:07:16,747 --> 01:07:17,827
Speaker 3: of overtime justin.

1268
01:07:19,027 --> 01:07:19,627
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was.

1269
01:07:21,267 --> 01:07:23,027
Speaker 17: The best game I've seen since I've been in New

1270
01:07:23,107 --> 01:07:26,787
Speaker 17: Zealand and speaking to people across the competition, remembering the

1271
01:07:26,907 --> 01:07:29,587
Speaker 17: Sales NBL has been going for forty three years, lots

1272
01:07:29,627 --> 01:07:31,867
Speaker 17: of people saying this is the best game they've ever

1273
01:07:31,947 --> 01:07:35,307
Speaker 17: seen in the history of the competition, which is quite

1274
01:07:35,387 --> 01:07:38,067
Speaker 17: some sort of statement. But it was an amazing game,

1275
01:07:38,147 --> 01:07:40,587
Speaker 17: double overtime and it went right down to the way

1276
01:07:40,747 --> 01:07:44,267
Speaker 17: a one point victory for the Rams. The other semifinal

1277
01:07:44,467 --> 01:07:45,787
Speaker 17: was a three point win.

1278
01:07:46,147 --> 01:07:47,467
Speaker 8: For the Tultara over the ball.

1279
01:07:47,547 --> 01:07:51,827
Speaker 17: So across two semi finals collectively, four points separating those

1280
01:07:51,907 --> 01:07:53,987
Speaker 17: top four teams. And if we have a grand final

1281
01:07:54,107 --> 01:07:55,467
Speaker 17: like that today, we'll be pretty happy.

1282
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope we get something similar. Just on the

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Speaker 3: Canterbury Rams, and you mentioned that incredible unbeaten run that

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Speaker 3: they went on, or that winning run that they went on.

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Speaker 3: What were the main planks of that? Why were they

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Speaker 3: so consistent?

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Speaker 17: Well, they've got this outstanding young center. This Australian out

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Speaker 17: of Adelaide plays at the Illawarra Hawks and the Aussie NBL.

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Speaker 17: Twenty years of age. He since now gone on and

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Speaker 17: won the MVP of the competition Most Outstanding Young Player

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Speaker 17: Youth Player of the Year. A lot of people are

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Speaker 17: talking about Locky Oldbrick as a future NBA player. He's

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Speaker 17: certainly got the star quality and I think we're going

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Speaker 17: to be looking back in future years and remembering the

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Speaker 17: year that Locky Oldbrick had playing here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 17: He's an absolute superstar. He is the key to the

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Speaker 17: Rams today, along with Captain Taylor Britt point guard, Most

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Speaker 17: Improved Player All Star five this year. He's had an

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Speaker 17: outstanding season. But they do have some very experienced players

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Speaker 17: that they're going up against. For the Tuatara who have

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Speaker 17: a star started starting five.

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Speaker 3: I want to get to them in a sec. But

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Speaker 3: Col's Stadium that's where we are this afternoon. How much

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Speaker 3: of an advantage is home advantage for the Rams?

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Speaker 17: Of course, the Sales has gone back to home finals

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Speaker 17: this year. First time in over a decade. It used

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Speaker 17: to all be at one location, and the fans have

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Speaker 17: certainly turned out. What we do know about cald Stadium,

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Speaker 17: it's an old stadium, it's got a lot of history,

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Speaker 17: but it's a cauldron, so it's going to.

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Speaker 8: Be absolutely chock. A block today.

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Speaker 17: Filled with Rams fans will make a lot of noise.

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Speaker 17: And if you're looking for a six man, a six

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Speaker 17: player to get you up over the line, you certainly

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Speaker 17: wanted to be your home fans, and I think we'll

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Speaker 17: get that today.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the Tourtata. Then you're right about their

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Speaker 3: starting five being all Star, Cam Glidden, Corey Webster, Rubin Todagi,

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Speaker 3: Rob Low, Tom Verdanovitch. I can't believe that their team

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Speaker 3: is in favorite.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I think they go in with high credentials obviously.

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Speaker 17: I mean this team is loaded with experience. As you said,

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Speaker 17: Corey Webster, they win today. Corey Webster is a five

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Speaker 17: time Sales NBL champion. Amazingly, his fourth title was playing

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Speaker 17: for the Rams last year against the Tuatara, so he's

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Speaker 17: got the chance to turn things around. Rob Low is

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Speaker 17: an MVP. He's a defensive Player of the Year two time.

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Speaker 17: He's a star in his own right. Cam Gliddon. Of course,

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Speaker 17: the Australian Ruben Talangy has just signed another Ossie NBL contract,

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Speaker 17: And of course you know Tom Vedanovich is just an

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Speaker 17: absolute powerhouse. He brings the muscle. If those five players

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Speaker 17: turn up today and do what they do, this team

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Speaker 17: will go on and celebrate their first championship.

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Speaker 3: There's so much attacking weaponry in both sides justin But

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Speaker 3: you know they often say, and it's a cliche, defense

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Speaker 3: wins championships, but what about grand finals? Does defense win

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01:10:40,187 --> 01:10:42,067
Speaker 3: grand finals? Or are we looking Are we looking at

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Speaker 3: a at a one ten to one oh eight game

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Speaker 3: or an eighty to seventy eight game here this afternoon?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think probably the ladder. These also are the

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Speaker 8: two best.

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Speaker 17: Defensive teams in the competition, so they bring that quality

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Speaker 17: with them. I think the ladder wouldn't surprise me if

1344
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Speaker 17: it's if it's under one hundred that gets the win

1345
01:11:02,187 --> 01:11:05,987
Speaker 17: here today. You can't tell though. I mean Tuatara step

1346
01:11:06,067 --> 01:11:08,347
Speaker 17: out in a forty seven point second quarter lock they

1347
01:11:08,387 --> 01:11:10,747
Speaker 17: did last time they were in christ Church, all of

1348
01:11:10,787 --> 01:11:12,027
Speaker 17: a sudden it blows the lid off.

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Speaker 3: And if we zoom out from the Grand Final and

1350
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Speaker 3: look at the Sales NBL season as a whole. How

1351
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Speaker 3: would you rated in terms of, you know, the usual metrics,

1352
01:11:20,587 --> 01:11:24,707
Speaker 3: fan engagement, exciting games, are competitive league, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it keeps getting better and better, doesn't it. And

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01:11:27,307 --> 01:11:29,347
Speaker 17: you know, you talk about the competitiveness. We've just spoken

1355
01:11:29,347 --> 01:11:32,467
Speaker 17: about the semi finals and how close they were. You

1356
01:11:32,547 --> 01:11:35,827
Speaker 17: think crowds. You know, the Giants sold out just about

1357
01:11:35,867 --> 01:11:38,147
Speaker 17: every game, the Rams sell out just about every game,

1358
01:11:38,227 --> 01:11:40,987
Speaker 17: The Saints do the same, the Twotara. You know, Auckland's

1359
01:11:41,027 --> 01:11:44,427
Speaker 17: been a real struggle ground for the Sales NBL for decades.

1360
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Speaker 17: I think they sold out seven of their ten games.

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Speaker 17: So we're seeing an increase in the fandom up and

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01:11:49,387 --> 01:11:51,947
Speaker 17: down the country. We know the attachment or the love

1363
01:11:51,987 --> 01:11:55,867
Speaker 17: affair that kids have with basketball in particular. They're coming

1364
01:11:55,947 --> 01:11:59,107
Speaker 17: out in big numbers, and look, when every game is

1365
01:11:59,307 --> 01:12:01,587
Speaker 17: live on TV, it certainly helps. But I think the

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Speaker 17: thing that we will look back on in twenty twenty

1367
01:12:04,187 --> 01:12:07,627
Speaker 17: four as being a real catalyst for that love and

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01:12:07,787 --> 01:12:11,027
Speaker 17: connection the community has with this game and the Celles

1369
01:12:11,107 --> 01:12:14,987
Speaker 17: MBL rapidly has obviously been a massive success, and I

1370
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Speaker 17: think that's got a big path to play going forward.

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Speaker 3: All right, who edges it this afternoon for you.

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Speaker 17: Rand start favorites. There's absolutely no question. But if the

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Speaker 17: Tuatara lose today in the forty three year history of

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01:12:28,107 --> 01:12:30,147
Speaker 17: the league, they will be the first ever team to

1375
01:12:30,307 --> 01:12:35,027
Speaker 17: lose three consecutive grand finals. I can't see it happening.

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Speaker 17: I think the Aucklanders get up.

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Speaker 3: Great to chat, Justin, have an awesome call this afternoon.

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Speaker 17: Cheers.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Justin Nelson there, skysport basketball commentator rams to a

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Speaker 3: tarta this afternoon. It's been pointed out to me by

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01:12:46,147 --> 01:12:47,947
Speaker 3: a few people there's a no fly zone in France

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01:12:48,067 --> 01:12:51,267
Speaker 3: at the moment. You can't fly in any drones. So yeah,

1383
01:12:51,547 --> 01:12:53,747
Speaker 3: interesting point. I hadn't picked up on that, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they got it in. James mconey's

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Speaker 3: in Paris. He's with us next.

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Speaker 1: The biggest things in sports are on weekend Sports with

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Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ.

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Speaker 7: Gunnerhoves New Zealand's most trusted and build a News.

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01:13:08,707 --> 01:13:10,867
Speaker 3: Just an oh flies on in Paris, not the entire

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Speaker 3: country of France.

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Speaker 14: One.

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Speaker 3: James mcconey's in Paris. What are you doing in Paris?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: A lot of people are asking that question, Poney, what

1395
01:13:20,107 --> 01:13:24,187
Speaker 22: the hell am I doing over here? I am here

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Speaker 22: covering the Olympics for the crowd Goes Wild and Sky.

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01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:31,587
Speaker 22: So on any given day, I could be doing something

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Speaker 22: for crowd Goes Wild and then you know, might be

1399
01:13:36,427 --> 01:13:39,227
Speaker 22: turn around and do a live cross for Sky and

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Speaker 22: and interviews after at the end.

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes happy ones, sometimes they'll be.

1402
01:13:45,747 --> 01:13:48,227
Speaker 22: There'll be tears, but you're there to capture the emotion

1403
01:13:48,947 --> 01:13:52,467
Speaker 22: and then in between times just trying to actually sort

1404
01:13:52,507 --> 01:13:56,347
Speaker 22: of catch a couple of sports that you wouldn't normally see.

1405
01:13:56,427 --> 01:13:59,827
Speaker 22: So I'm going off the beaten track of hopefully to

1406
01:14:00,387 --> 01:14:02,867
Speaker 22: see a bit of skateboarding and break dancing.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to hearing your your reports and your anelys

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01:14:06,547 --> 01:14:09,987
Speaker 3: of that being in Paris while the Olympics are on

1409
01:14:10,267 --> 01:14:13,147
Speaker 3: or have just started. What is it like there? Can

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01:14:13,187 --> 01:14:14,867
Speaker 3: you can you give us an idea of the feel

1411
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Speaker 3: of the city.

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Speaker 22: I can I can tell Paris is let's just say

1413
01:14:21,627 --> 01:14:25,987
Speaker 22: cautiously or slowly buzzing. It really came to life tonight

1414
01:14:26,587 --> 01:14:31,187
Speaker 22: when you saw Antoine DuPont leading this the French sevens

1415
01:14:31,267 --> 01:14:34,307
Speaker 22: team to the gold medal victory over Fiji in the final,

1416
01:14:34,947 --> 01:14:38,227
Speaker 22: and I was in a restaurant where you know, they

1417
01:14:38,267 --> 01:14:42,627
Speaker 22: were all the French were going completely nuts loving that moment,

1418
01:14:42,787 --> 01:14:46,067
Speaker 22: and and it was it was it was really special.

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01:14:46,147 --> 01:14:49,147
Speaker 22: I guess for DuPont because you know, he got injured,

1420
01:14:49,187 --> 01:14:51,067
Speaker 22: he had to wear a mask in the Rugby World Cup,

1421
01:14:51,587 --> 01:14:54,667
Speaker 22: and he's he came along to the sevens team and

1422
01:14:55,387 --> 01:14:57,467
Speaker 22: you know he doesn't always start games, but I'll tell

1423
01:14:57,467 --> 01:15:00,027
Speaker 22: you what, he finishes them, and he was impressive. So

1424
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Speaker 22: I'd say the mood on on the street is pride

1425
01:15:05,747 --> 01:15:09,827
Speaker 22: and and they're also buzzing about the opening ceremony.

1426
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Speaker 5: Did you see it, Piney?

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01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:14,187
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw bits of it, and I was very

1428
01:15:14,307 --> 01:15:17,547
Speaker 3: keen to get your thoughts because you know, I kind

1429
01:15:17,587 --> 01:15:20,187
Speaker 3: of tend to look at these things through a traditional eye,

1430
01:15:20,507 --> 01:15:22,747
Speaker 3: whereas you you seem to, you know, think outside the

1431
01:15:22,787 --> 01:15:24,547
Speaker 3: square a little bit, look at things from a different

1432
01:15:24,587 --> 01:15:27,627
Speaker 3: angle and in a different way. What did you think

1433
01:15:27,667 --> 01:15:27,827
Speaker 3: of it?

1434
01:15:30,627 --> 01:15:32,387
Speaker 5: Overall? I think it worked right.

1435
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Speaker 22: So I think you know that the opening ceremony is

1436
01:15:35,387 --> 01:15:40,427
Speaker 22: about showcasing a nation and its history, and really frant

1437
01:15:40,507 --> 01:15:43,707
Speaker 22: sort of nailed that, nailed the brief. You know, there

1438
01:15:43,747 --> 01:15:45,387
Speaker 22: are a couple of moments that you could probably give,

1439
01:15:45,707 --> 01:15:49,587
Speaker 22: you know, take or leave. And also I think I

1440
01:15:49,667 --> 01:15:52,547
Speaker 22: always felt sorry for some of the dancers just going,

1441
01:15:53,227 --> 01:15:55,427
Speaker 22: you know, dancing their hearts out and they get zero

1442
01:15:55,507 --> 01:15:58,387
Speaker 22: point five seconds on camera and then they just have.

1443
01:15:58,547 --> 01:16:03,427
Speaker 5: Some aerial shot of the river, you know.

1444
01:16:03,467 --> 01:16:07,627
Speaker 22: I like, I'm like, Okay, they're cut away from that

1445
01:16:07,787 --> 01:16:11,787
Speaker 22: person who's really giving it. Theyre all But I thought

1446
01:16:11,827 --> 01:16:14,507
Speaker 22: the start was really special. And my French friends, I

1447
01:16:14,627 --> 01:16:17,347
Speaker 22: was talking to one of them, she said that her

1448
01:16:17,547 --> 01:16:21,547
Speaker 22: and her partner and her boyfriend were in tears. They

1449
01:16:21,587 --> 01:16:24,227
Speaker 22: were just so emotional about it because they really felt

1450
01:16:24,827 --> 01:16:28,667
Speaker 22: represented France in the most positive way. And that was

1451
01:16:29,227 --> 01:16:31,987
Speaker 22: I mean, I think if everyone out there hasn't seen it,

1452
01:16:32,107 --> 01:16:33,507
Speaker 22: that the start was epic.

1453
01:16:34,387 --> 01:16:35,787
Speaker 5: A heavy metal band.

1454
01:16:37,667 --> 01:16:41,387
Speaker 22: Basically all members of the band outside of a massive palace,

1455
01:16:41,947 --> 01:16:46,387
Speaker 22: out of different windows, while there's a Marie Antoinette is

1456
01:16:46,467 --> 01:16:49,907
Speaker 22: carrying her own head and the head is singing, and

1457
01:16:51,307 --> 01:16:54,707
Speaker 22: you just can't yet a more epic start to something

1458
01:16:54,787 --> 01:16:57,627
Speaker 22: than that. So I actually thought that was great, and

1459
01:16:57,667 --> 01:17:01,187
Speaker 22: I actually thought the end was great. From when they

1460
01:17:01,267 --> 01:17:05,947
Speaker 22: had these acrobats playing different acrobats, I understand playing the

1461
01:17:06,027 --> 01:17:09,907
Speaker 22: one character it was masked and doing flips with the

1462
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Speaker 22: Olympic flame, and once that Olympic flame was handed to

1463
01:17:13,427 --> 01:17:18,787
Speaker 22: zenodinsa down onto Rafael and dal and then the great

1464
01:17:18,867 --> 01:17:22,507
Speaker 22: Olympic freech Olympic athletes and Paralympic athletes.

1465
01:17:23,027 --> 01:17:26,027
Speaker 5: I thought that was really special. It having a desired effect.

1466
01:17:25,787 --> 01:17:30,147
Speaker 22: Which was emotion really and now they've got a pretty

1467
01:17:30,187 --> 01:17:31,667
Speaker 22: cool flame with the balloon attached.

1468
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Speaker 3: That's right. Not every city in the world can say

1469
01:17:36,027 --> 01:17:40,307
Speaker 3: that just on You mentioned the highs and the lows,

1470
01:17:40,347 --> 01:17:44,747
Speaker 3: the disappointment and the delight. Our men sevens team obviously

1471
01:17:44,827 --> 01:17:48,907
Speaker 3: started even before the opening ceremony, and their chances of

1472
01:17:49,307 --> 01:17:52,067
Speaker 3: metal were kind of extinguished before the flame was even lit.

1473
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Speaker 3: What about our Blackfood and sevens? Though, James should be

1474
01:17:54,667 --> 01:17:57,627
Speaker 3: fairly confident they'll go back to back in the women's

1475
01:17:58,107 --> 01:17:59,987
Speaker 3: seven should be pretty confident about that, wouldn't you.

1476
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. I think the blackfer and sevens

1477
01:18:04,467 --> 01:18:09,787
Speaker 5: are just a really great story in camaraderie, in.

1478
01:18:11,427 --> 01:18:14,907
Speaker 22: You know, sisterhood, understanding each other and getting the best

1479
01:18:14,947 --> 01:18:19,787
Speaker 22: out of each other and really supporting one another, and

1480
01:18:20,227 --> 01:18:23,587
Speaker 22: that they're excellence. Yeah, Okay, they're amazing athletes, but I

1481
01:18:23,627 --> 01:18:27,147
Speaker 22: think they're a really great template for how a modern

1482
01:18:27,187 --> 01:18:32,107
Speaker 22: New Zealand team should be and that's just part of

1483
01:18:32,147 --> 01:18:34,747
Speaker 22: it is driven. I think a lot of it's driven

1484
01:18:34,787 --> 01:18:37,587
Speaker 22: by the players and I'm always so impressed and you

1485
01:18:37,667 --> 01:18:38,867
Speaker 22: can see it on social media.

1486
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Speaker 5: They're very, very candid. I'm sure every.

1487
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Speaker 22: Time you've interviewed a Black fer and seven they're pretty

1488
01:18:44,107 --> 01:18:47,027
Speaker 22: much the best interview in sport overall, you know, playing

1489
01:18:47,067 --> 01:18:51,347
Speaker 22: for player and so I think that positivity just shines

1490
01:18:51,507 --> 01:18:54,507
Speaker 22: on the field and they'll have to dig deep to

1491
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Speaker 22: be a team like Australia if that's the final, because

1492
01:18:57,507 --> 01:19:01,307
Speaker 22: they've sort of lifted their game in the past six months.

1493
01:19:01,387 --> 01:19:05,307
Speaker 22: But yeah, I really do like the blackfer and seven.

1494
01:19:05,347 --> 01:19:07,387
Speaker 22: Then having someone like see why I could come back

1495
01:19:07,427 --> 01:19:13,787
Speaker 22: as well, like there along with you, Porscha Woodman, michaeleb

1496
01:19:13,907 --> 01:19:16,667
Speaker 22: Lyde and and all the others you know, Tyler King.

1497
01:19:17,987 --> 01:19:21,387
Speaker 3: Yep, No, I think they've looked for me. They're they're

1498
01:19:21,387 --> 01:19:23,627
Speaker 3: the ones. They're the ones. So I think we'll we'll

1499
01:19:23,627 --> 01:19:25,667
Speaker 3: get us started over the next couple of days, perhaps

1500
01:19:25,667 --> 01:19:27,147
Speaker 3: with the gold medal. We might even get some metal

1501
01:19:27,187 --> 01:19:29,307
Speaker 3: before that. Just before you go, do you reckon? Like

1502
01:19:29,987 --> 01:19:31,827
Speaker 3: if you went to the break dancing and you did

1503
01:19:32,227 --> 01:19:35,467
Speaker 3: like a backspin or the worm? Will that get you

1504
01:19:35,467 --> 01:19:37,507
Speaker 3: a good points? Do you think in breakdancing?

1505
01:19:39,107 --> 01:19:39,307
Speaker 8: You know?

1506
01:19:39,347 --> 01:19:39,547
Speaker 5: Hope.

1507
01:19:39,587 --> 01:19:41,427
Speaker 22: So I'm sort of more of a pop and locker,

1508
01:19:41,507 --> 01:19:43,747
Speaker 22: you know, like I sort of can get electric pulse

1509
01:19:43,827 --> 01:19:46,387
Speaker 22: and seat of go through you know, my fingers. And

1510
01:19:47,787 --> 01:19:49,547
Speaker 22: I mean, I don't know what they do about the

1511
01:19:49,667 --> 01:19:52,107
Speaker 22: robot now? Is that considered a bit parse?

1512
01:19:52,427 --> 01:19:53,387
Speaker 19: But I don't know.

1513
01:19:54,027 --> 01:19:54,627
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1514
01:19:56,427 --> 01:19:57,827
Speaker 5: Speaking of robots.

1515
01:19:57,467 --> 01:20:00,347
Speaker 22: Though, Poney, the one thing I was, you know, the drone,

1516
01:20:00,387 --> 01:20:04,027
Speaker 22: the ladist of the drone saga with the Canada has

1517
01:20:04,107 --> 01:20:07,027
Speaker 22: been docked six points.

1518
01:20:07,067 --> 01:20:07,587
Speaker 5: I think it is.

1519
01:20:07,747 --> 01:20:12,307
Speaker 22: Ye, so they for flying two drones spying on the

1520
01:20:12,867 --> 01:20:16,387
Speaker 22: football fans. But it doesn't really address and this is

1521
01:20:16,427 --> 01:20:18,947
Speaker 22: what the statements come out from the end, zo see,

1522
01:20:19,587 --> 01:20:23,427
Speaker 22: it doesn't address the fact that the football fans lost

1523
01:20:23,467 --> 01:20:26,147
Speaker 22: that game. So it hasn't actually helped them at all

1524
01:20:26,387 --> 01:20:29,907
Speaker 22: in a positive way. It's really just killed off Canada's

1525
01:20:30,027 --> 01:20:34,627
Speaker 22: chances of qualifying, right, So I think that is that

1526
01:20:34,787 --> 01:20:36,947
Speaker 22: that's one thing that that should have been a walkover

1527
01:20:37,107 --> 01:20:40,627
Speaker 22: or that result should have been overturned in favor of

1528
01:20:40,667 --> 01:20:44,747
Speaker 22: the football fans. It's it's not really the ideal punishment there.

1529
01:20:44,947 --> 01:20:47,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mean to have a zero sum solution here,

1530
01:20:47,347 --> 01:20:50,307
Speaker 3: aren't you. So if somebody loses points, somebody else should

1531
01:20:50,347 --> 01:20:52,267
Speaker 3: gain them. I guess what that also means though, is

1532
01:20:52,307 --> 01:20:55,147
Speaker 3: that you know, if they've docked six, then somebody else

1533
01:20:55,187 --> 01:20:56,587
Speaker 3: has to get three. I don't know, but yeah, I

1534
01:20:56,827 --> 01:21:01,307
Speaker 3: think I tend to agree there's been no advantage gained

1535
01:21:01,347 --> 01:21:05,267
Speaker 3: at all by New Zealand here. They've been the victims

1536
01:21:05,667 --> 01:21:08,627
Speaker 3: both off the field on it unfortunately. So yeah, it's

1537
01:21:08,667 --> 01:21:10,867
Speaker 3: a yah. It's a story that keeps on giving. I'm

1538
01:21:10,907 --> 01:21:13,067
Speaker 3: sure there's more to come on this, James. I've kept

1539
01:21:13,067 --> 01:21:16,187
Speaker 3: you all wait long enough. You you go and get

1540
01:21:16,267 --> 01:21:19,027
Speaker 3: some sleep in the in the Paris night. Enjoy the

1541
01:21:19,067 --> 01:21:21,347
Speaker 3: weak ahead, mate. I can't wait to see what what

1542
01:21:21,547 --> 01:21:23,947
Speaker 3: content you come up with, and we'll hopefully catch up

1543
01:21:23,947 --> 01:21:24,707
Speaker 3: again next Sunday.

1544
01:21:26,187 --> 01:21:28,747
Speaker 5: Cheers Piney sounds good mate. I'm always available for you,

1545
01:21:28,747 --> 01:21:31,907
Speaker 5: you know. And yeah, I'll get some sleep now and

1546
01:21:32,347 --> 01:21:33,347
Speaker 5: bondwi from me.

1547
01:21:33,947 --> 01:21:38,267
Speaker 3: Bon wie. Indeed, thanks James. James Macony in Paris seven

1548
01:21:38,307 --> 01:21:39,067
Speaker 3: to two News Talks.

1549
01:21:39,067 --> 01:21:42,067
Speaker 7: Heb when it's down to the line, you made a

1550
01:21:42,187 --> 01:21:47,707
Speaker 7: call on eight Weekend Sport with Jason Payne News Talks.

1551
01:21:47,467 --> 01:21:50,107
Speaker 3: Heb four to two an hour away from the announcement

1552
01:21:50,107 --> 01:21:52,187
Speaker 3: of the Rugby Championship squad for the All Blacks. They're

1553
01:21:52,227 --> 01:21:55,227
Speaker 3: gonna name a thirty six man squad. It was thirty

1554
01:21:55,267 --> 01:21:57,747
Speaker 3: two for the England and Fiji tests. So who might

1555
01:21:57,827 --> 01:22:02,067
Speaker 3: get added and who maybe might not be there? Gregor

1556
01:22:02,147 --> 01:22:05,347
Speaker 3: Paul from the New Zealand Herald after two and Owen

1557
01:22:05,427 --> 01:22:09,787
Speaker 3: Eastwood are key we born, UK based performance coach who

1558
01:22:09,907 --> 01:22:14,587
Speaker 3: worked alongside recently departed England football coach Gareth Southgate.

1559
01:22:15,627 --> 01:22:20,787
Speaker 1: Or the big names, the big issues, the big controversies

1560
01:22:21,387 --> 01:22:25,387
Speaker 1: and the big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with

1561
01:22:25,547 --> 01:22:29,627
Speaker 1: Jason Vain on your home of Sport News Talk, said B.

1562
01:22:31,067 --> 01:22:34,267
Speaker 3: Two seven its this is Weekend Sport. On News Talks,

1563
01:22:34,267 --> 01:22:36,547
Speaker 3: he'd b I'm Jason Pine, Andy McDonald's through the glass.

1564
01:22:36,787 --> 01:22:39,827
Speaker 3: We are with you until three and then Tim Bevera,

1565
01:22:39,947 --> 01:22:42,707
Speaker 3: so I can see through another pane of glass is

1566
01:22:43,107 --> 01:22:45,787
Speaker 3: ready to take you through the rest of you Sunday

1567
01:22:45,907 --> 01:22:49,347
Speaker 3: with the Weekend Collective. Before we get there, I want

1568
01:22:49,387 --> 01:22:53,267
Speaker 3: to get you to the UK. Gareth Southgate was England

1569
01:22:53,307 --> 01:22:55,587
Speaker 3: football boss up until a couple of weeks ago. When

1570
01:22:55,867 --> 01:23:00,587
Speaker 3: following the defeat in the Euro Final, he handed in

1571
01:23:00,667 --> 01:23:04,467
Speaker 3: his notice resigned as England football boss after eight years

1572
01:23:04,507 --> 01:23:07,027
Speaker 3: in charge. One of those who were hooked alongside and

1573
01:23:07,107 --> 01:23:11,947
Speaker 3: was a key we Owen Eastwood, born here in New Zealand,

1574
01:23:12,107 --> 01:23:14,827
Speaker 3: based in the UK, has worked with some really top

1575
01:23:14,947 --> 01:23:20,747
Speaker 3: elite sporting teams, including England during Gareth Southgate's time in charge.

1576
01:23:20,787 --> 01:23:23,547
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to find out from Owen Eastwood

1577
01:23:23,667 --> 01:23:27,747
Speaker 3: what it's like inside a environment with Gareth Southgate at

1578
01:23:27,787 --> 01:23:29,667
Speaker 3: the helm. The All Blacks are about to name their

1579
01:23:29,707 --> 01:23:33,947
Speaker 3: Rugby Championship squad. It's due out in around fifty two minutes.

1580
01:23:35,427 --> 01:23:38,227
Speaker 3: Thirty six in the squad They had thirty two in

1581
01:23:38,307 --> 01:23:41,187
Speaker 3: the last squad, So who's going to get added in

1582
01:23:41,307 --> 01:23:44,667
Speaker 3: which positions will they look to strengthen as anybody from

1583
01:23:44,747 --> 01:23:47,387
Speaker 3: the thirty two not going to be in the thirty six.

1584
01:23:47,667 --> 01:23:50,547
Speaker 3: Hard to see it, Gregor Paul on that shortly, and

1585
01:23:50,627 --> 01:23:53,107
Speaker 3: we'll look ahead to to night's action at Paris twenty

1586
01:23:53,147 --> 01:23:56,187
Speaker 3: twenty four and give you some or some things to

1587
01:23:56,227 --> 01:23:59,787
Speaker 3: look out for, maybe some alarms to set, some key

1588
01:23:59,867 --> 01:24:01,547
Speaker 3: events that you might want to get your ears on.

1589
01:24:02,267 --> 01:24:05,227
Speaker 3: Don't forget we have through the night coverage on Gold

1590
01:24:05,307 --> 01:24:09,787
Speaker 3: Sport and i Heeartradio of the Paris Olympic Games. When

1591
01:24:09,827 --> 01:24:13,147
Speaker 3: our first night last night seemed to go okay, only

1592
01:24:13,267 --> 01:24:17,667
Speaker 3: fifteen to go. As we always do it around about

1593
01:24:17,667 --> 01:24:20,347
Speaker 3: this time, which is nine past two, it's time to

1594
01:24:20,467 --> 01:24:22,267
Speaker 3: catch you up on a few things which might have

1595
01:24:22,347 --> 01:24:25,307
Speaker 3: happened while you were asleep or while you were doing

1596
01:24:25,347 --> 01:24:31,187
Speaker 3: other things. Andy McDonald's marathon edition today of in case

1597
01:24:31,227 --> 01:24:34,507
Speaker 3: you missed it, let's starting the NRL. The Bulldogs have

1598
01:24:34,667 --> 01:24:38,387
Speaker 3: dealt a hammer blow to the Broncos top eight chances,

1599
01:24:38,827 --> 01:24:39,267
Speaker 3: third of the.

1600
01:24:39,347 --> 01:24:43,467
Speaker 23: Money it was held sixty the sheeft, the shefter shift,

1601
01:24:43,827 --> 01:24:54,427
Speaker 23: Tracy himside were straight to lead at on.

1602
01:24:54,547 --> 01:24:59,667
Speaker 3: The back of this performance, two maps qu a daald

1603
01:25:00,947 --> 01:25:04,747
Speaker 3: forty one sixteen the Bulldogs beating the Broncos. Meantime, the

1604
01:25:04,827 --> 01:25:07,867
Speaker 3: Cowboys have moved into a strong position in the eight

1605
01:25:07,987 --> 01:25:10,907
Speaker 3: with a thirty twenty two win over the Sharks. Takes

1606
01:25:10,947 --> 01:25:11,947
Speaker 3: it out of play.

1607
01:25:13,507 --> 01:25:14,547
Speaker 7: This world of ending the.

1608
01:25:14,667 --> 01:25:15,867
Speaker 3: Cowboys were hoping for that.

1609
01:25:15,947 --> 01:25:19,707
Speaker 24: They've got the job done at full time thirty points

1610
01:25:19,907 --> 01:25:22,147
Speaker 24: to twenty two and the Rooster's held on in a

1611
01:25:22,187 --> 01:25:23,267
Speaker 24: classic against Manly.

1612
01:25:23,507 --> 01:25:27,347
Speaker 3: It's stilling open for them. Can the manly side six again,

1613
01:25:27,387 --> 01:25:28,227
Speaker 3: but it's irrelevant.

1614
01:25:28,387 --> 01:25:31,627
Speaker 24: It's the last play comes to lord a little probably

1615
01:25:31,667 --> 01:25:32,227
Speaker 24: a little kick.

1616
01:25:32,307 --> 01:25:34,387
Speaker 3: That's besscun Colins.

1617
01:25:33,987 --> 01:25:34,587
Speaker 25: Holls on it.

1618
01:25:34,827 --> 01:25:36,027
Speaker 7: Who roast this hold on?

1619
01:25:36,587 --> 01:25:37,387
Speaker 26: What are the games?

1620
01:25:37,427 --> 01:25:37,507
Speaker 2: Are?

1621
01:25:37,587 --> 01:25:37,907
Speaker 20: The thing?

1622
01:25:38,587 --> 01:25:43,307
Speaker 4: Are the roosters with players screwed all over this Halliard Stadium?

1623
01:25:44,227 --> 01:25:45,067
Speaker 26: They have won?

1624
01:25:45,267 --> 01:25:48,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've won at thirty four thirty. A late game

1625
01:25:48,427 --> 01:25:52,107
Speaker 3: comeback was needed, but the mystics have made another a

1626
01:25:52,267 --> 01:25:54,067
Speaker 3: n ZED Premiership Netball Final.

1627
01:25:54,267 --> 01:25:57,027
Speaker 21: Burg is still putting in the air for that's just

1628
01:25:57,267 --> 01:25:58,107
Speaker 21: lovely movement.

1629
01:25:58,987 --> 01:26:01,147
Speaker 3: And that's the game you suspect is lock atwo.

1630
01:26:01,147 --> 01:26:04,467
Speaker 21: He comes flying through, but the deflection falls for the

1631
01:26:04,587 --> 01:26:05,747
Speaker 21: defending champions.

1632
01:26:06,507 --> 01:26:07,427
Speaker 3: It's not gonna matter.

1633
01:26:08,347 --> 01:26:11,307
Speaker 8: It's because the defending champions will have.

1634
01:26:11,467 --> 01:26:15,747
Speaker 4: The charts to go back to back next week in Welbington.

1635
01:26:15,867 --> 01:26:19,667
Speaker 3: Back overseas pole position in Belgium for Ferrari?

1636
01:26:20,067 --> 01:26:22,067
Speaker 27: What could show the clan to can he put his

1637
01:26:22,227 --> 01:26:23,587
Speaker 27: Ferrari somewhere there the fronts?

1638
01:26:23,627 --> 01:26:26,827
Speaker 3: He rows he can put his car on the front.

1639
01:26:26,667 --> 01:26:30,027
Speaker 27: Row currently and that could be whole position.

1640
01:26:30,187 --> 01:26:34,227
Speaker 24: For Charles Leclair along with the one he inherited this

1641
01:26:34,427 --> 01:26:35,427
Speaker 24: time last year.

1642
01:26:35,547 --> 01:26:37,627
Speaker 3: And a lot of Olympic stuff to catch you up on.

1643
01:26:37,907 --> 01:26:41,387
Speaker 3: Starting with the rowing Tom McIntosh with a strong start,

1644
01:26:41,467 --> 01:26:43,747
Speaker 3: and the men's single skulls.

1645
01:26:43,467 --> 01:26:47,987
Speaker 27: New Zealand's Thomas McIntosh in lane five. He's gonna win

1646
01:26:48,027 --> 01:26:51,027
Speaker 27: it comfortably. Heading down to the finish line, now the

1647
01:26:51,107 --> 01:26:54,307
Speaker 27: first three in each heat qualifying for the quarterfinals.

1648
01:26:54,427 --> 01:26:56,827
Speaker 3: There he goes, and Emma Twigg did the same thing,

1649
01:26:57,067 --> 01:26:58,307
Speaker 3: just slowing down.

1650
01:26:58,387 --> 01:26:59,347
Speaker 10: Now she doesn't have to.

1651
01:27:00,987 --> 01:27:03,467
Speaker 27: Buster gut at this point, not in the heats. When

1652
01:27:03,547 --> 01:27:06,267
Speaker 27: you're a good boat length and a half in front

1653
01:27:06,387 --> 01:27:09,787
Speaker 27: of the second competitor who's just crossed, and that is Uzbekistan.

1654
01:27:10,107 --> 01:27:14,387
Speaker 27: Emma Twig crosses in seven fifty four point ninety seven

1655
01:27:15,427 --> 01:27:17,267
Speaker 27: to win her heat handsomely.

1656
01:27:17,547 --> 01:27:20,347
Speaker 3: Our women's double skulls had an eventful starts.

1657
01:27:20,427 --> 01:27:23,827
Speaker 27: New Zealand might have got their noses in front of

1658
01:27:24,267 --> 01:27:27,187
Speaker 27: Great Britain. As they come down to the line, they're

1659
01:27:27,227 --> 01:27:32,387
Speaker 27: about to finish and Brook Francis Lucy Spores cross in

1660
01:27:32,627 --> 01:27:33,347
Speaker 27: first spot.

1661
01:27:33,947 --> 01:27:37,067
Speaker 3: Boy want to come back to equestrian. Our three day

1662
01:27:37,107 --> 01:27:40,587
Speaker 3: events are fourth after the first day the dressage.

1663
01:27:40,827 --> 01:27:44,107
Speaker 26: I believe she nods her head and acknowledges the crowd

1664
01:27:44,627 --> 01:27:48,147
Speaker 26: and Price's score. His cars She's currently in fourth, so

1665
01:27:48,587 --> 01:27:54,267
Speaker 26: a successful dressargefits in the thirty point eight vault points.

1666
01:27:54,707 --> 01:27:57,707
Speaker 3: It wasn't all plain sailing though, Jewles.

1667
01:27:57,507 --> 01:28:03,147
Speaker 26: Moving and Jules Is actually just dropped their guts on

1668
01:28:03,187 --> 01:28:05,907
Speaker 26: the stand there. Unfortunately, I'm not sure you get marked

1669
01:28:05,947 --> 01:28:13,747
Speaker 26: out of that anyway, how unfortunate into a canaday now

1670
01:28:13,947 --> 01:28:17,947
Speaker 26: jeefers early drama at the.

1671
01:28:19,827 --> 01:28:22,427
Speaker 3: And as having the trouble holding it together there. Let's

1672
01:28:22,467 --> 01:28:25,267
Speaker 3: get to cycling. Kim Katzo could be our next big star.

1673
01:28:25,467 --> 01:28:30,107
Speaker 26: Kim Katzo coming through and through to the finishing marker,

1674
01:28:30,467 --> 01:28:33,787
Speaker 26: powering home to the finish and Kim Katzer she has

1675
01:28:33,907 --> 01:28:36,347
Speaker 26: hit the top of the table. Staw She's on the

1676
01:28:36,387 --> 01:28:38,427
Speaker 26: top of the podium at the moment. Is Kim Katzar

1677
01:28:38,827 --> 01:28:43,347
Speaker 26: the new Zealander. Kim Katza in her made Olympic Games

1678
01:28:43,387 --> 01:28:46,067
Speaker 26: and outstanding effort of the time trial to come in

1679
01:28:46,387 --> 01:28:49,587
Speaker 26: seven to the huge career you useduspect ahead for the

1680
01:28:49,867 --> 01:28:51,667
Speaker 26: told ride of the twenty two year old.

1681
01:28:51,707 --> 01:28:54,067
Speaker 3: With that finish means Black Sticks fell to a tough

1682
01:28:54,147 --> 01:28:54,827
Speaker 3: loss to India.

1683
01:28:55,347 --> 01:28:56,067
Speaker 27: Is that game over?

1684
01:28:56,387 --> 01:28:56,547
Speaker 5: Yes?

1685
01:28:56,627 --> 01:28:56,907
Speaker 1: It is.

1686
01:28:57,067 --> 01:29:02,067
Speaker 27: The umpires have called it and India triumphant over the

1687
01:29:02,187 --> 01:29:05,467
Speaker 27: Black Sticks. The men Black means black sticks in game

1688
01:29:05,547 --> 01:29:09,427
Speaker 27: at number one for these two teams at Paris twenty twenty.

1689
01:29:09,227 --> 01:29:12,467
Speaker 3: Four and the United States relentless against our Ollie Whites

1690
01:29:12,507 --> 01:29:14,307
Speaker 3: in the football. Here's a chance for a third for

1691
01:29:14,387 --> 01:29:16,067
Speaker 3: the US. They can't get the shot away.

1692
01:29:16,147 --> 01:29:18,947
Speaker 24: Paulson makes it great safe and it has found its

1693
01:29:18,987 --> 01:29:24,467
Speaker 24: way in for three again, Paulson saving the first effort,

1694
01:29:24,867 --> 01:29:27,987
Speaker 24: but it's found its way back to gian Luca Buziol.

1695
01:29:28,507 --> 01:29:31,867
Speaker 3: This is getting very, very bad and deep for New Zealand.

1696
01:29:31,907 --> 01:29:35,187
Speaker 3: They trail three nil on the half hour mark and finally,

1697
01:29:35,227 --> 01:29:38,707
Speaker 3: in events not including Kiwis, the Queen of Clay had

1698
01:29:38,787 --> 01:29:41,347
Speaker 3: no issues to start her tennis campaign well.

1699
01:29:41,467 --> 01:29:44,467
Speaker 25: A very disappointing finish to this game at double faults

1700
01:29:44,707 --> 01:29:48,267
Speaker 25: from the Romanian world's number one hundred and thirty six

1701
01:29:48,947 --> 01:29:52,427
Speaker 25: Arena Begu, but we all knew that the classroom Syontet

1702
01:29:52,547 --> 01:29:54,747
Speaker 25: was going to shine through at some point. The Queen

1703
01:29:55,067 --> 01:29:58,827
Speaker 25: of Clay shows very little sign of being dethroned in

1704
01:29:58,907 --> 01:30:01,067
Speaker 25: round one at Paris twenty twenty.

1705
01:30:00,827 --> 01:30:04,107
Speaker 3: Four, and Antoine du Pont has finally found the glory

1706
01:30:04,267 --> 01:30:06,307
Speaker 3: he was looking for at Star de Front.

1707
01:30:06,587 --> 01:30:07,427
Speaker 10: They want another one.

1708
01:30:07,467 --> 01:30:10,747
Speaker 28: As time starts to take ninety Sigers at play ads

1709
01:30:10,827 --> 01:30:11,867
Speaker 28: long two ponds.

1710
01:30:13,787 --> 01:30:16,827
Speaker 10: Who else but a man for the.

1711
01:30:16,987 --> 01:30:21,947
Speaker 28: Occasion may have just helped sealed a deal For a

1712
01:30:22,187 --> 01:30:27,067
Speaker 28: famous moment in French sporting history, time is up an

1713
01:30:27,147 --> 01:30:35,667
Speaker 28: anslong duke plum. Sometimes it's written, and it is for

1714
01:30:35,827 --> 01:30:42,707
Speaker 28: this French team history made the first gold medal of

1715
01:30:42,947 --> 01:30:47,187
Speaker 28: Paris twenty twenty four for the home team France Rugby

1716
01:30:47,267 --> 01:30:48,627
Speaker 28: severs winners.

1717
01:30:50,347 --> 01:30:52,947
Speaker 1: The scoot from the track Field and the Court on

1718
01:30:53,107 --> 01:30:56,907
Speaker 1: your home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News

1719
01:30:56,987 --> 01:30:57,507
Speaker 1: Talks in b.

1720
01:30:57,867 --> 01:31:00,467
Speaker 3: Two fifteen, the all Black squad for the Rugby Championship

1721
01:31:00,627 --> 01:31:04,347
Speaker 3: is named at three o'clock this afternoon. New Zealand Herald

1722
01:31:04,427 --> 01:31:07,827
Speaker 3: Rugby writer Gregor Paul is with to discuss. Gregor, it's

1723
01:31:07,867 --> 01:31:11,027
Speaker 3: a squad of thirty six. It was thirty two for

1724
01:31:11,107 --> 01:31:14,067
Speaker 3: the tests against England and Fiji. Is it fair to

1725
01:31:14,187 --> 01:31:18,267
Speaker 3: say that the original thirty two who were named will

1726
01:31:18,347 --> 01:31:21,427
Speaker 3: be retained if they're fit? I mean nobody has played

1727
01:31:21,467 --> 01:31:23,107
Speaker 3: their way out of this team, have they?

1728
01:31:24,787 --> 01:31:28,387
Speaker 8: Hopefully one would necessarily have played their way out. However,

1729
01:31:29,307 --> 01:31:32,267
Speaker 8: that doesn't necessarily mean that all thirty two of them

1730
01:31:32,507 --> 01:31:36,827
Speaker 8: will be reclaimed because there are certain individuals who had

1731
01:31:36,947 --> 01:31:42,987
Speaker 8: thought were going to come back. For example, Samson, he

1732
01:31:43,107 --> 01:31:45,147
Speaker 8: was originally going to be in the squad, but you know,

1733
01:31:45,307 --> 01:31:49,027
Speaker 8: was injured, so he came out. They brought in Bell

1734
01:31:49,107 --> 01:31:51,427
Speaker 8: was a replacements, so that might be one of the

1735
01:31:51,507 --> 01:31:55,387
Speaker 8: thirty two. Will Jordan is back fit, and you know,

1736
01:31:55,507 --> 01:31:57,987
Speaker 8: again he would have been in an original selection if

1737
01:31:58,027 --> 01:32:01,427
Speaker 8: he'd been fit. I will have to see whether he

1738
01:32:01,627 --> 01:32:04,387
Speaker 8: comes back in at the extense of an existing player

1739
01:32:05,387 --> 01:32:09,227
Speaker 8: or whether he's in adal outside back going into the mix,

1740
01:32:09,307 --> 01:32:12,387
Speaker 8: And it'll already depend on you know, what kind of

1741
01:32:12,507 --> 01:32:15,227
Speaker 8: balance the selectors are going to feel they need positionally

1742
01:32:15,467 --> 01:32:18,147
Speaker 8: to understand if there's going to be any guys coming out.

1743
01:32:18,707 --> 01:32:20,787
Speaker 3: Well, just on the Will Jordan one, if they add him,

1744
01:32:20,867 --> 01:32:24,307
Speaker 3: that's still only six outside bags, isn't it, Clark not

1745
01:32:24,467 --> 01:32:29,667
Speaker 3: our Piafitta race to layer Ed Jordan. They can afford

1746
01:32:29,707 --> 01:32:32,907
Speaker 3: another outside back if they're adding four players, can't they?

1747
01:32:33,467 --> 01:32:36,827
Speaker 8: They probably could, but they've got some, you know, injury

1748
01:32:37,027 --> 01:32:40,307
Speaker 8: concerns if you're going backwards and look back to Locke.

1749
01:32:40,987 --> 01:32:44,227
Speaker 8: At the moment, Scott Barrett has been revealed I've had

1750
01:32:44,307 --> 01:32:48,027
Speaker 8: surgery on a finger the length of his recovery time

1751
01:32:48,147 --> 01:32:51,427
Speaker 8: is unknown at the stage or we haven't been told. Certainly,

1752
01:32:52,427 --> 01:32:55,387
Speaker 8: Patrick Tupelotto, you didn't go to San Diego. They were

1753
01:32:55,467 --> 01:32:58,827
Speaker 8: resting him after, you know, I had an incredible period

1754
01:32:58,867 --> 01:33:01,467
Speaker 8: with his knee and back and forth and whatnot. So

1755
01:33:02,187 --> 01:33:04,827
Speaker 8: they'll be a little bit careful about managing him. Still,

1756
01:33:05,267 --> 01:33:07,547
Speaker 8: I would have thought with with what's happened with him,

1757
01:33:08,267 --> 01:33:11,907
Speaker 8: so they might want to strengthen themselves around Lock. They

1758
01:33:11,987 --> 01:33:14,747
Speaker 8: might not. They might feel comfortable operating, you know, with

1759
01:33:15,347 --> 01:33:17,987
Speaker 8: the guys that they've got with just three knowing that

1760
01:33:18,147 --> 01:33:21,467
Speaker 8: I assume Barrett will come back to full fitness reasonably quickly,

1761
01:33:21,547 --> 01:33:24,107
Speaker 8: so they could probably carry three Locks to through the

1762
01:33:24,187 --> 01:33:28,867
Speaker 8: Argentina games and then get Barrett back. So it really

1763
01:33:29,027 --> 01:33:32,507
Speaker 8: just does depend on where they feel they need strength

1764
01:33:32,587 --> 01:33:34,867
Speaker 8: and dates across the thirty six players that they have.

1765
01:33:35,347 --> 01:33:37,587
Speaker 3: It feels like Sam Derry might be there though he

1766
01:33:37,707 --> 01:33:41,587
Speaker 3: debut didn't he against veg Over in San Diego. If

1767
01:33:41,627 --> 01:33:46,187
Speaker 3: they are even mildly concerned about Lock, that put Sam

1768
01:33:46,267 --> 01:33:47,187
Speaker 3: Dry in there, wouldn't they.

1769
01:33:47,667 --> 01:33:49,787
Speaker 8: I think he'll certainly do the Yeah, I think that's

1770
01:33:49,827 --> 01:33:52,387
Speaker 8: a given at the moment. Given where they're at, they

1771
01:33:52,427 --> 01:33:56,507
Speaker 8: would want injury cover for Scott Barrett certainly, and I

1772
01:33:56,627 --> 01:33:59,667
Speaker 8: think they'll probably want to carry four locks in their

1773
01:33:59,787 --> 01:34:04,747
Speaker 8: thirty six man squad anyway, and Sam Barry would appear

1774
01:34:04,787 --> 01:34:07,027
Speaker 8: to be the fourth guy given that he was one

1775
01:34:07,067 --> 01:34:09,827
Speaker 8: we called up to take the San Diego So yeah,

1776
01:34:10,187 --> 01:34:11,507
Speaker 8: he'll he'll definitely be there.

1777
01:34:11,507 --> 01:34:15,107
Speaker 3: I would have thought, what about Sam Kine lit with it.

1778
01:34:15,987 --> 01:34:19,867
Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, Sam's been training with the squad pretty much

1779
01:34:19,987 --> 01:34:22,867
Speaker 8: throughout the whole of July. He I bumped into him

1780
01:34:22,867 --> 01:34:24,827
Speaker 8: in a cafe, told me he's fully fit. He's been

1781
01:34:24,907 --> 01:34:28,507
Speaker 8: training for most of the time the squad had been assembled. Look,

1782
01:34:29,147 --> 01:34:32,667
Speaker 8: let's be clear, he's a world class player, and he's available,

1783
01:34:32,787 --> 01:34:34,547
Speaker 8: and he's available until the end of the year. And

1784
01:34:34,667 --> 01:34:36,827
Speaker 8: I know that Jason Ryan, the forwards coach, is a

1785
01:34:36,987 --> 01:34:41,507
Speaker 8: huge Sam Kane fan because he understands the value of

1786
01:34:41,667 --> 01:34:44,547
Speaker 8: a of a heavy tackler, which is what Sam is.

1787
01:34:45,027 --> 01:34:50,307
Speaker 8: A highly experienced professional with great leadership ability, really strong

1788
01:34:50,387 --> 01:34:53,227
Speaker 8: over the ball at the breakdown. He's a great carrier

1789
01:34:53,307 --> 01:34:56,667
Speaker 8: of the bomb in close quarters. He's maybe not the

1790
01:34:56,747 --> 01:34:59,307
Speaker 8: kind of traditional New Zealand seven. He gets dived into

1791
01:34:59,387 --> 01:35:02,027
Speaker 8: the open and we you know, we see you know,

1792
01:35:02,107 --> 01:35:05,187
Speaker 8: a long striding ball playing seven that he's really good

1793
01:35:05,227 --> 01:35:07,947
Speaker 8: at just grinding out a couple of really difficult meters

1794
01:35:07,987 --> 01:35:11,227
Speaker 8: against bigger men. One hundred percent going to be back

1795
01:35:11,267 --> 01:35:14,907
Speaker 8: in to the squad, and I'd imagine if they think

1796
01:35:14,947 --> 01:35:17,787
Speaker 8: he's got enough game time behind him, I think they'll

1797
01:35:17,787 --> 01:35:19,787
Speaker 8: want to get him on the bench pretty quickly for

1798
01:35:19,867 --> 01:35:21,947
Speaker 8: the All Blacks and then back into the starting sisting

1799
01:35:22,587 --> 01:35:24,187
Speaker 8: ready in time to go to South Africa.

1800
01:35:24,467 --> 01:35:27,307
Speaker 3: Interesting, what about David Havili? Is there a room for him?

1801
01:35:27,347 --> 01:35:29,187
Speaker 3: They've got four pretty good midfielders at the moment.

1802
01:35:30,467 --> 01:35:33,507
Speaker 8: Again, it depends on where they want to part the

1803
01:35:33,627 --> 01:35:38,107
Speaker 8: new The new players they did seem pretty keen on,

1804
01:35:39,107 --> 01:35:41,507
Speaker 8: you know, like Razor would know David Havili pretty well.

1805
01:35:41,627 --> 01:35:45,427
Speaker 8: He's a really versatile football players that plays in the midfield.

1806
01:35:45,667 --> 01:35:48,147
Speaker 8: He's played at full back, he can play at number

1807
01:35:48,187 --> 01:35:50,907
Speaker 8: ten if needs be. Whether he can play their international

1808
01:35:51,027 --> 01:35:55,187
Speaker 8: level not quite yet. So a guy on that level

1809
01:35:55,427 --> 01:35:58,587
Speaker 8: of versatility and he's got he's got a good level

1810
01:35:58,627 --> 01:36:01,747
Speaker 8: of experience as well. He's played you know, twenty plus

1811
01:36:01,827 --> 01:36:04,507
Speaker 8: Test matches. But he'd been a kind of guy that

1812
01:36:04,587 --> 01:36:07,947
Speaker 8: they potentially for Rugby to want to carry with them.

1813
01:36:08,027 --> 01:36:10,467
Speaker 8: So he's embedded with the system with the team. He's

1814
01:36:10,507 --> 01:36:13,627
Speaker 8: been training with them. By the way, throughout July, there

1815
01:36:13,667 --> 01:36:16,947
Speaker 8: was a whole sort of entourage of extras that were

1816
01:36:16,987 --> 01:36:19,747
Speaker 8: continually with the team throughout July. He was one of them,

1817
01:36:19,827 --> 01:36:22,827
Speaker 8: George Bauer being another, Sam King, Will Jordan, All these

1818
01:36:22,867 --> 01:36:25,627
Speaker 8: guys have been with the team. So it's potential for

1819
01:36:26,027 --> 01:36:28,467
Speaker 8: David to come in because inevitably, Piney, we know there's

1820
01:36:28,467 --> 01:36:30,827
Speaker 8: going to be injury a little bit. Had a guy

1821
01:36:30,907 --> 01:36:33,507
Speaker 8: training with them who they trust and is ready to

1822
01:36:34,467 --> 01:36:36,227
Speaker 8: up to speed with how they want to play, what

1823
01:36:36,347 --> 01:36:38,987
Speaker 8: his role is likely to be. If he's needed. It's

1824
01:36:39,067 --> 01:36:41,027
Speaker 8: good to have them there rather than calling them in

1825
01:36:41,147 --> 01:36:43,827
Speaker 8: calls and having to get them up to speed quickly.

1826
01:36:44,027 --> 01:36:48,347
Speaker 8: So yeah, he if the balance suits them, I think

1827
01:36:48,427 --> 01:36:50,307
Speaker 8: he's the sort of guy that would would cover a

1828
01:36:50,347 --> 01:36:52,267
Speaker 8: lot of options for them if he comes back in

1829
01:36:53,147 --> 01:36:53,627
Speaker 8: half back.

1830
01:36:54,027 --> 01:36:55,827
Speaker 3: I think we can assume can't be that cam Roy

1831
01:36:55,867 --> 01:36:58,267
Speaker 3: guard still isn't really I think they were talking about

1832
01:36:58,267 --> 01:37:01,587
Speaker 3: the end of year term tour rather for cam Royguards.

1833
01:37:01,667 --> 01:37:06,107
Speaker 3: So let's say TJ. Pernada is fit again. What is

1834
01:37:06,147 --> 01:37:09,027
Speaker 3: the picking order in New Zealand half picks Let's leave

1835
01:37:09,067 --> 01:37:10,987
Speaker 3: Roy got out of it. What's the picking order of

1836
01:37:11,107 --> 01:37:12,587
Speaker 3: those who are fit at the moment.

1837
01:37:12,947 --> 01:37:18,107
Speaker 8: Well, my taking order is Quarters ratumare one, and I

1838
01:37:18,147 --> 01:37:23,227
Speaker 8: would go Noah Hawsum two, TJ. Perrinara three, Finley Christich

1839
01:37:23,347 --> 01:37:26,507
Speaker 8: four if it was up to me, where where would

1840
01:37:26,547 --> 01:37:29,027
Speaker 8: they be sitting? I think they might have got enough

1841
01:37:29,107 --> 01:37:33,147
Speaker 8: confidence in Quarters Ratama to start them, But whether they

1842
01:37:33,227 --> 01:37:35,627
Speaker 8: do start them regularly, I don't know. Because they probably

1843
01:37:35,827 --> 01:37:40,467
Speaker 8: like the experience of TJ. Peer and his competitiveness, his

1844
01:37:40,627 --> 01:37:43,787
Speaker 8: leadership qualities. These are all valuable things. So I think

1845
01:37:43,947 --> 01:37:47,067
Speaker 8: they probably still see TJ. Parri's number one because I

1846
01:37:47,107 --> 01:37:50,547
Speaker 8: think he started the season is number one, and just

1847
01:37:50,627 --> 01:37:53,427
Speaker 8: because he's been injured, I don't think they would as

1848
01:37:53,507 --> 01:37:55,547
Speaker 8: evidence to say he's no longer the number one. But

1849
01:37:55,707 --> 01:37:59,067
Speaker 8: clearly there's going to be a live situation there. Ratum

1850
01:37:59,107 --> 01:38:03,267
Speaker 8: has now number two and Christy would be their number three,

1851
01:38:03,307 --> 01:38:06,667
Speaker 8: and I imagine that Noah Hawsum drops out when t.

1852
01:38:07,267 --> 01:38:10,987
Speaker 8: Peranara comes back in, when roygun arrives whenever that is

1853
01:38:11,147 --> 01:38:14,427
Speaker 8: probably later this year. Jeepers, you know you've got what

1854
01:38:14,667 --> 01:38:17,387
Speaker 8: five six guys who you know are going to be

1855
01:38:17,427 --> 01:38:19,707
Speaker 8: competing for a birthday and I think that pecking order

1856
01:38:20,267 --> 01:38:21,227
Speaker 8: will remain fluid.

1857
01:38:21,787 --> 01:38:23,867
Speaker 3: Do you think we'll see Bowden, Barrett's staff and the

1858
01:38:23,947 --> 01:38:26,627
Speaker 3: teen jersey at all in the Rugby Championship.

1859
01:38:26,907 --> 01:38:30,907
Speaker 8: Well, potentially that's something that may happen, you know, while

1860
01:38:30,947 --> 01:38:33,147
Speaker 8: they because they're going to rest and retake mckensey at

1861
01:38:33,187 --> 01:38:35,147
Speaker 8: some point. I don't think they want to do that

1862
01:38:35,267 --> 01:38:36,907
Speaker 8: too much because I think you want to keep a

1863
01:38:37,227 --> 01:38:39,427
Speaker 8: young number ten young in the sense that he's not

1864
01:38:39,427 --> 01:38:42,627
Speaker 8: got a lot of experience. You probably want to keep

1865
01:38:42,747 --> 01:38:45,787
Speaker 8: him on the field, keep learning, keep growing, because it's

1866
01:38:45,827 --> 01:38:49,987
Speaker 8: about understanding your craft so broader and I suspect will

1867
01:38:49,987 --> 01:38:51,667
Speaker 8: be a guy that I don't think they'll be looking

1868
01:38:51,707 --> 01:38:55,827
Speaker 8: to put a competitive element into that situation at the moment.

1869
01:38:55,867 --> 01:38:58,547
Speaker 8: There's no real need to do that. But if they

1870
01:38:58,587 --> 01:39:00,627
Speaker 8: want to give, you know, McKinsey a week off, then

1871
01:39:00,667 --> 01:39:02,587
Speaker 8: Barrett would probably be the guy that they would start

1872
01:39:02,627 --> 01:39:04,907
Speaker 8: at number ten. But look, they know what they've gotten Barrett.

1873
01:39:05,387 --> 01:39:07,347
Speaker 8: I don't think they need to start a live process

1874
01:39:07,427 --> 01:39:10,507
Speaker 8: of putting pressure on McKenzie, you know, because he's playing

1875
01:39:10,547 --> 01:39:12,907
Speaker 8: pretty well as it is. I don't think he needs

1876
01:39:12,947 --> 01:39:16,107
Speaker 8: that right now external pressure. With the sense they're trying

1877
01:39:16,147 --> 01:39:20,267
Speaker 8: to grow a veteran number ten alongside him. They're lucky

1878
01:39:20,347 --> 01:39:22,907
Speaker 8: because Bonds is a brilliant player and if they need

1879
01:39:22,987 --> 01:39:25,107
Speaker 8: a number ten that's capable of playing a test match

1880
01:39:25,387 --> 01:39:27,507
Speaker 8: called off the bat, he'd be the guy that could

1881
01:39:27,507 --> 01:39:28,027
Speaker 8: do it for them.

1882
01:39:28,427 --> 01:39:30,347
Speaker 3: And when they come together as a thirty six with

1883
01:39:30,427 --> 01:39:32,987
Speaker 3: the coaching staff, etc. Get ready for the Rugby Championship.

1884
01:39:33,067 --> 01:39:35,987
Speaker 3: Given what they learned during the two England Test matches,

1885
01:39:36,067 --> 01:39:38,507
Speaker 3: let's both feed you to one side in the England

1886
01:39:38,547 --> 01:39:40,427
Speaker 3: Test matches. What do you think the main areas of

1887
01:39:40,507 --> 01:39:43,547
Speaker 3: focus will be for Razer and his coaching staff as

1888
01:39:43,587 --> 01:39:46,107
Speaker 3: he prepares this group for the Rugby Championship.

1889
01:39:47,067 --> 01:39:48,707
Speaker 8: I think the forwards need to be a bit more

1890
01:39:48,787 --> 01:39:54,747
Speaker 8: concentrational and aggressive in traveling north to south, around around

1891
01:39:54,827 --> 01:39:59,147
Speaker 8: the middle of the field, going directly through forward packs,

1892
01:39:59,507 --> 01:40:02,147
Speaker 8: playing a little bit of continuity there, whether it's you know,

1893
01:40:02,307 --> 01:40:05,747
Speaker 8: using quick feet, quick passing, changing the point of the attack,

1894
01:40:05,827 --> 01:40:10,307
Speaker 8: but certainly putting defenses backwards, you know, through the ball

1895
01:40:10,427 --> 01:40:13,467
Speaker 8: carrying and an ability of the All Black forward pack

1896
01:40:14,067 --> 01:40:15,907
Speaker 8: to do that. We didn't really see a lot of

1897
01:40:15,987 --> 01:40:18,387
Speaker 8: that against England. I think they need to be a

1898
01:40:18,427 --> 01:40:20,747
Speaker 8: bit more clinical when they you know, when they create

1899
01:40:20,827 --> 01:40:23,067
Speaker 8: half opportunities. There were quite a lot of points they

1900
01:40:23,187 --> 01:40:26,027
Speaker 8: left out on the field. And I think the third

1901
01:40:26,107 --> 01:40:31,147
Speaker 8: area that they weren't particularly good at is marrying an

1902
01:40:31,267 --> 01:40:34,707
Speaker 8: accurate kicking game into the rest of the game plan.

1903
01:40:34,827 --> 01:40:36,907
Speaker 8: They seemed to kick a little bit with you know,

1904
01:40:37,067 --> 01:40:39,027
Speaker 8: no real plan around what they were trying to do.

1905
01:40:39,227 --> 01:40:41,947
Speaker 8: There didn't feel like they were really spot on with

1906
01:40:42,067 --> 01:40:44,827
Speaker 8: what their intentions were and what their execution was, you know,

1907
01:40:45,507 --> 01:40:47,667
Speaker 8: was trying to do. And I think when you when

1908
01:40:47,707 --> 01:40:49,987
Speaker 8: you end up playing teams like Argentina and South Africa

1909
01:40:50,027 --> 01:40:52,307
Speaker 8: in particular, that that's a part of your game you've

1910
01:40:52,307 --> 01:40:53,987
Speaker 8: got to get right. So these will be the three

1911
01:40:54,547 --> 01:40:56,667
Speaker 8: three elements I think they'll want to get.

1912
01:40:56,747 --> 01:40:59,867
Speaker 3: Sharper On always enjoy you're insight, Gregor. Thanks so much

1913
01:40:59,907 --> 01:41:02,747
Speaker 3: for taking the time this afternoon. My play Gregor Paul

1914
01:41:02,907 --> 01:41:04,987
Speaker 3: there you read them in the Insined, the Herald, Indian,

1915
01:41:05,027 --> 01:41:07,507
Speaker 3: herold Dot cut on Engine or just the paper. Three

1916
01:41:07,547 --> 01:41:10,947
Speaker 3: o'clock this afternoon is when that team is named squad

1917
01:41:10,987 --> 01:41:13,667
Speaker 3: of thirty six for the Rugby Championship couple of tests

1918
01:41:13,707 --> 01:41:18,187
Speaker 3: against Argentina, both in New Zealand tests away two in

1919
01:41:18,307 --> 01:41:21,667
Speaker 3: South Africa, then home and away against Australia. So six

1920
01:41:21,787 --> 01:41:25,027
Speaker 3: Rugby Championship tests, thirty six men in that squad. You

1921
01:41:25,147 --> 01:41:27,627
Speaker 3: might have caught the news yesterday Scott Barrett needed surgery

1922
01:41:28,187 --> 01:41:30,027
Speaker 3: after one of the recent test matches. I think it

1923
01:41:30,067 --> 01:41:32,107
Speaker 3: was the Figi Test, so he's in doubt for at

1924
01:41:32,187 --> 01:41:35,267
Speaker 3: least the first Rugby Championship Test. Other than that, I

1925
01:41:35,347 --> 01:41:38,707
Speaker 3: think everybody's pretty much good to go. TJ Petinalo, we

1926
01:41:38,827 --> 01:41:40,827
Speaker 3: understand is going to be all right, so I presume

1927
01:41:40,907 --> 01:41:43,947
Speaker 3: he'll come back in thirty six names. We'll have them

1928
01:41:43,987 --> 01:41:47,507
Speaker 3: for you in our news at three two twenty six.

1929
01:41:47,867 --> 01:41:49,507
Speaker 3: I want to take a break. When we come back

1930
01:41:49,787 --> 01:41:52,627
Speaker 3: to the UK, we go again and to a key.

1931
01:41:52,667 --> 01:41:55,067
Speaker 3: We're living over there and making a living as a

1932
01:41:55,107 --> 01:41:57,627
Speaker 3: performance coach and doing it pretty well. Actually, he's worked

1933
01:41:57,667 --> 01:42:01,107
Speaker 3: with a lot of elite sporting teams in the UK,

1934
01:42:01,747 --> 01:42:05,107
Speaker 3: one of which was the England football team during Gareth

1935
01:42:05,187 --> 01:42:09,427
Speaker 3: Southgates time in charge. His name is Owen Eastwood. He's

1936
01:42:09,467 --> 01:42:10,627
Speaker 3: on the show with us right after.

1937
01:42:10,547 --> 01:42:13,547
Speaker 1: This Don't Get Caught off Side Call eight hundred eighty

1938
01:42:13,587 --> 01:42:18,067
Speaker 1: ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pain and GJ. Guvnerhomes

1939
01:42:18,267 --> 01:42:20,587
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder news.

1940
01:42:20,467 --> 01:42:23,387
Speaker 3: Dogs MB coming up two thirty before we close the

1941
01:42:23,427 --> 01:42:25,067
Speaker 3: show at three. I'll let you know what to look

1942
01:42:25,107 --> 01:42:28,547
Speaker 3: out for and listen out for tonight. On the second

1943
01:42:28,627 --> 01:42:32,627
Speaker 3: full day of competition at the Paris Olympic Games, England

1944
01:42:32,707 --> 01:42:37,107
Speaker 3: men's football manager Gareth Southgate stepped down from the role

1945
01:42:37,187 --> 01:42:39,987
Speaker 3: after eight years in charge following his side's loss in

1946
01:42:40,067 --> 01:42:43,547
Speaker 3: the European Championship final. During his eight years, he took

1947
01:42:43,627 --> 01:42:46,667
Speaker 3: the side to consecutive euro finals, as well as the

1948
01:42:46,747 --> 01:42:49,267
Speaker 3: semi finals of the twenty eighteen Football World Cup and

1949
01:42:49,347 --> 01:42:53,787
Speaker 3: the quarterfinals in twenty twenty two. Owen Eastwood is a

1950
01:42:53,867 --> 01:42:57,227
Speaker 3: Kiwi born, UK based performance coach who's worked with some

1951
01:42:57,507 --> 01:43:01,387
Speaker 3: elite sporting teams all around the world, including England during

1952
01:43:01,627 --> 01:43:04,867
Speaker 3: Gareth Southgate's time in charge. Owen Eastwood is also the

1953
01:43:04,987 --> 01:43:09,707
Speaker 3: author of Below the Ancient Code of Togetherness. It joins

1954
01:43:09,787 --> 01:43:12,587
Speaker 3: us now, Owen, thanks for taking the time to have

1955
01:43:12,667 --> 01:43:14,987
Speaker 3: a chat to us. Tell us about your time working

1956
01:43:15,267 --> 01:43:17,587
Speaker 3: alongside Gareth Southgate with the England team.

1957
01:43:18,707 --> 01:43:20,947
Speaker 9: Kurada. Yeah, a great honor for me.

1958
01:43:21,947 --> 01:43:25,787
Speaker 29: I was retained by the Football Association the year before

1959
01:43:25,867 --> 01:43:28,467
Speaker 29: he became the manager of the team. They were doing

1960
01:43:28,507 --> 01:43:31,027
Speaker 29: a big DNA project and they were looking at all

1961
01:43:31,107 --> 01:43:33,987
Speaker 29: the aspects of English football and what they found is

1962
01:43:34,027 --> 01:43:35,707
Speaker 29: that they were pretty clear on what they wanted to

1963
01:43:35,787 --> 01:43:38,827
Speaker 29: do from a technical point of view, but they really

1964
01:43:39,067 --> 01:43:43,427
Speaker 29: weren't confident how to create teen culture. So anyway, I

1965
01:43:43,547 --> 01:43:46,187
Speaker 29: was invited to participate in that, and at the time

1966
01:43:46,227 --> 01:43:50,107
Speaker 29: Gareth was an under twenty one manager and I came

1967
01:43:50,187 --> 01:43:52,987
Speaker 29: back with probably quite a radical report. In many ways,

1968
01:43:53,067 --> 01:43:57,107
Speaker 29: I felt like they needed a complete transformation, and I

1969
01:43:57,147 --> 01:44:00,067
Speaker 29: think with a lot of other managers would have been

1970
01:44:00,107 --> 01:44:01,787
Speaker 29: too much for them and too different for them. But

1971
01:44:01,907 --> 01:44:05,707
Speaker 29: when he was promoted to be the England men's manager,

1972
01:44:06,347 --> 01:44:09,827
Speaker 29: he knew me. He agreed with the ideas and we

1973
01:44:09,947 --> 01:44:10,707
Speaker 29: got to work together.

1974
01:44:11,267 --> 01:44:13,707
Speaker 3: What sort of things were you suggesting to him and

1975
01:44:13,827 --> 01:44:14,347
Speaker 3: to England?

1976
01:44:16,547 --> 01:44:19,907
Speaker 29: When I first got appointed, I did a three month

1977
01:44:20,027 --> 01:44:23,747
Speaker 29: project trying to understand the culture of English football team.

1978
01:44:23,747 --> 01:44:24,387
Speaker 9: Obviously, as a.

1979
01:44:24,427 --> 01:44:27,827
Speaker 29: KIWI, I wasn't familiar with that, and I went back

1980
01:44:27,867 --> 01:44:29,787
Speaker 29: and I actually met players going back to the nineteen

1981
01:44:29,787 --> 01:44:32,587
Speaker 29: fifties and I asked him what the ten culture was

1982
01:44:32,667 --> 01:44:34,507
Speaker 29: like in the nineteen fifties and all the way through

1983
01:44:35,627 --> 01:44:38,467
Speaker 29: and started to get a good sense of it. And

1984
01:44:38,587 --> 01:44:40,587
Speaker 29: the thing that probably stood out the most was that

1985
01:44:41,267 --> 01:44:44,187
Speaker 29: the Golden Generation, which was about twenty years ago of

1986
01:44:44,307 --> 01:44:49,107
Speaker 29: David Beckham and Michael Owen and Frank Lampard and Stephen Gerard,

1987
01:44:49,147 --> 01:44:53,267
Speaker 29: they were regarded as probably the best English generation since

1988
01:44:53,627 --> 01:44:56,387
Speaker 29: nineteen sixty six when they won the World Cup, and

1989
01:44:56,507 --> 01:45:00,747
Speaker 29: they underperformed pretty miserably really over a decade. And I

1990
01:45:00,947 --> 01:45:03,187
Speaker 29: spoke to some of those players in the team and

1991
01:45:03,307 --> 01:45:05,067
Speaker 29: the things that really stood out to me was that

1992
01:45:05,747 --> 01:45:07,507
Speaker 29: a lot of the pla as we're very candid with me,

1993
01:45:07,627 --> 01:45:09,547
Speaker 29: and said that they did not.

1994
01:45:09,707 --> 01:45:11,787
Speaker 9: Enjoy going to a Euro's or a World Cup.

1995
01:45:12,507 --> 01:45:16,747
Speaker 29: The amount of pressure on them was just extreme and

1996
01:45:16,867 --> 01:45:19,587
Speaker 29: if you missed a penodia got sent off literally your

1997
01:45:19,667 --> 01:45:22,667
Speaker 29: life could be detrimentally affected forever.

1998
01:45:23,067 --> 01:45:24,467
Speaker 9: And that had happened with some people.

1999
01:45:25,227 --> 01:45:27,387
Speaker 29: And you know, it's very actually similar to being an

2000
01:45:27,427 --> 01:45:31,427
Speaker 29: all Black. This is incredible intense pressure. People get very

2001
01:45:31,507 --> 01:45:35,027
Speaker 29: very emotional things don't go well. They expected not only

2002
01:45:35,107 --> 01:45:37,747
Speaker 29: to win, but to win with style. And some of

2003
01:45:37,787 --> 01:45:40,107
Speaker 29: the players told me that actually, you know, when they'd

2004
01:45:40,187 --> 01:45:42,747
Speaker 29: been defeated in the quarter final of a World Cup,

2005
01:45:42,827 --> 01:45:44,707
Speaker 29: the player said to me, if you had been on

2006
01:45:44,787 --> 01:45:47,067
Speaker 29: our bus, you would have been sure we'd won it

2007
01:45:47,787 --> 01:45:51,107
Speaker 29: because the players were actually so relieved to go home

2008
01:45:51,267 --> 01:45:54,707
Speaker 29: and for this ordeal to have finished. It looked like

2009
01:45:54,827 --> 01:45:57,067
Speaker 29: they were elated and celebrating.

2010
01:45:57,627 --> 01:45:58,587
Speaker 9: That's how bad it was.

2011
01:45:58,707 --> 01:46:01,027
Speaker 29: So that was the obvious thing for me, is that

2012
01:46:01,187 --> 01:46:07,027
Speaker 29: the culture was one full of fear, full of negativity

2013
01:46:07,067 --> 01:46:09,947
Speaker 29: and pessimism really and that was the thing they needed

2014
01:46:09,987 --> 01:46:11,907
Speaker 29: to be addressed. And you know, Gareth had been in

2015
01:46:11,947 --> 01:46:14,387
Speaker 29: that situation himself, having been a player for England, and

2016
01:46:14,587 --> 01:46:17,427
Speaker 29: he completely agreed. So that's what we were able to

2017
01:46:17,467 --> 01:46:21,667
Speaker 29: collaborate around. What would a more optimistic, positive, energetic culture

2018
01:46:21,747 --> 01:46:22,027
Speaker 29: look like.

2019
01:46:22,867 --> 01:46:23,587
Speaker 3: Did it become that?

2020
01:46:26,147 --> 01:46:27,667
Speaker 29: You know that I'm very proud of the fact that

2021
01:46:27,747 --> 01:46:31,067
Speaker 29: it definitely did. You know, the energy of the team

2022
01:46:31,107 --> 01:46:35,747
Speaker 29: fundamentally shifted, as you pointed out, after they.

2023
01:46:35,667 --> 01:46:37,427
Speaker 9: Won the World Cup in nineteen sixty six.

2024
01:46:38,467 --> 01:46:41,507
Speaker 29: They only made one semi final of a World Cup

2025
01:46:41,587 --> 01:46:45,387
Speaker 29: after that nineteen ninety and they never made the finals

2026
01:46:45,427 --> 01:46:48,667
Speaker 29: of the Euros and then the four tournaments that Gareth

2027
01:46:48,787 --> 01:46:51,507
Speaker 29: was a manager, made two Euro's finals, made a semi

2028
01:46:51,587 --> 01:46:54,547
Speaker 29: final of a World Cup and lost a quarterfinal to

2029
01:46:54,707 --> 01:46:56,467
Speaker 29: the reigning champions France.

2030
01:46:56,187 --> 01:46:56,547
Speaker 5: And the other.

2031
01:46:57,187 --> 01:46:59,427
Speaker 29: And what people would say is the players enjoyed the

2032
01:46:59,507 --> 01:47:04,227
Speaker 29: experience and they were a lot less stressed. So we

2033
01:47:04,307 --> 01:47:07,067
Speaker 29: connected them with the meaning of the Three Lions and

2034
01:47:07,147 --> 01:47:09,907
Speaker 29: playing for England and they loved all that. We spent

2035
01:47:10,067 --> 01:47:12,187
Speaker 29: time away from training to connect them with each other,

2036
01:47:13,147 --> 01:47:14,067
Speaker 29: and that really was.

2037
01:47:14,587 --> 01:47:16,507
Speaker 9: A powerful thing to have done. And we wanted have

2038
01:47:16,627 --> 01:47:17,347
Speaker 9: fun and relaxed.

2039
01:47:17,387 --> 01:47:19,827
Speaker 29: We had basketball court set up in the hotels and

2040
01:47:20,147 --> 01:47:21,747
Speaker 29: we just wanted them just to be young men and

2041
01:47:21,907 --> 01:47:22,627
Speaker 29: enjoy themselves.

2042
01:47:22,667 --> 01:47:24,627
Speaker 9: And Gareth was brilliant at that.

2043
01:47:24,827 --> 01:47:29,227
Speaker 29: He's a really lovely, gentle person and he wasn't threatening

2044
01:47:29,267 --> 01:47:33,467
Speaker 29: to them, he wasn't scary. He was always consistent the

2045
01:47:33,547 --> 01:47:36,267
Speaker 29: way he turned up and the players learned to trust

2046
01:47:36,347 --> 01:47:40,307
Speaker 29: him and became a father figure into many of them. So, yeah,

2047
01:47:40,347 --> 01:47:42,227
Speaker 29: the energy of the team changed and that led to

2048
01:47:42,307 --> 01:47:43,947
Speaker 29: a direct improvement in their performance.

2049
01:47:43,947 --> 01:47:44,667
Speaker 9: And they done about that.

2050
01:47:45,187 --> 01:47:48,867
Speaker 3: Are you able to directly correlate those two things or

2051
01:47:48,947 --> 01:47:50,187
Speaker 3: did they simply just play better?

2052
01:47:51,827 --> 01:47:54,547
Speaker 9: You know, I've had this with other teams as well.

2053
01:47:55,147 --> 01:47:57,507
Speaker 29: Sometimes people watch a team on TV and they go,

2054
01:47:58,107 --> 01:48:00,627
Speaker 29: you know what, they're not fit. They don't look fit,

2055
01:48:00,747 --> 01:48:04,787
Speaker 29: they don't look conditioned. They looked exhausted. And actually, what

2056
01:48:04,867 --> 01:48:06,587
Speaker 29: I've learned is that often it is nothing to do

2057
01:48:06,707 --> 01:48:09,187
Speaker 29: with physical conditioning. The reason is is that and I

2058
01:48:09,267 --> 01:48:10,867
Speaker 29: think a lot of people who are listening to this

2059
01:48:10,987 --> 01:48:14,427
Speaker 29: can relate to this in their workplace probably is that

2060
01:48:14,507 --> 01:48:17,707
Speaker 29: when you're in a very stressful environment where you don't

2061
01:48:17,787 --> 01:48:22,707
Speaker 29: really feel psychologically safe, there's a lot of tension around you,

2062
01:48:22,827 --> 01:48:26,067
Speaker 29: and you don't really trust the environment or all your leaders.

2063
01:48:26,787 --> 01:48:31,627
Speaker 29: That is chronic stress, and you are absolutely naked. And

2064
01:48:31,747 --> 01:48:34,187
Speaker 29: it's no different for a sports theme as it is

2065
01:48:34,227 --> 01:48:38,227
Speaker 29: for any one else. And so these very simple principles,

2066
01:48:38,267 --> 01:48:41,227
Speaker 29: and it's actually hormonal. Is a good way to think

2067
01:48:41,227 --> 01:48:43,787
Speaker 29: about this is that we want people to be energized

2068
01:48:43,827 --> 01:48:47,387
Speaker 29: by having less stress and more oxytocin, which is released

2069
01:48:47,387 --> 01:48:50,307
Speaker 29: when you feel connected to people around you, and more dopamine,

2070
01:48:50,387 --> 01:48:53,307
Speaker 29: which is released when you are striving towards a goal

2071
01:48:53,387 --> 01:48:56,267
Speaker 29: with other people which has some meaning to you. So

2072
01:48:56,947 --> 01:49:00,187
Speaker 29: these are quite simple ideas and that definitely transform the

2073
01:49:00,347 --> 01:49:03,347
Speaker 29: energy of the team. The fact that Gareth is always

2074
01:49:03,347 --> 01:49:06,107
Speaker 29: an optimist, he's focusing on what could go well than

2075
01:49:06,147 --> 01:49:08,907
Speaker 29: what go wrong. That actually also changes the hormonal state

2076
01:49:08,947 --> 01:49:11,867
Speaker 29: of people. When you are surrounded by optimistic people, you

2077
01:49:12,027 --> 01:49:12,867
Speaker 29: are less stressed.

2078
01:49:14,347 --> 01:49:17,907
Speaker 3: We think the All Blacks coaches are the pressure. How

2079
01:49:17,987 --> 01:49:22,387
Speaker 3: much is that pressure multiplied as England means football boss.

2080
01:49:24,187 --> 01:49:26,147
Speaker 9: I don't think it's multiplied, but I think it's very

2081
01:49:26,347 --> 01:49:27,067
Speaker 9: very similar.

2082
01:49:27,987 --> 01:49:33,747
Speaker 29: And you know, I mean Gareth has been under incredible

2083
01:49:33,787 --> 01:49:36,787
Speaker 29: pressure in his last tournament to win it, you know,

2084
01:49:37,907 --> 01:49:40,667
Speaker 29: which if you think about, is quite mad because before

2085
01:49:40,747 --> 01:49:44,467
Speaker 29: his time the team which is completely uncompetitive for fifty years.

2086
01:49:45,547 --> 01:49:49,427
Speaker 29: So but people like the exell in public, they want

2087
01:49:49,507 --> 01:49:51,547
Speaker 29: to win and they want to win in style. And

2088
01:49:51,947 --> 01:49:54,867
Speaker 29: Gareth was criticized for his tactics being a bit too cautious.

2089
01:49:55,467 --> 01:49:57,587
Speaker 29: I'm not a football expert, so I wouldn't comment on that,

2090
01:49:58,347 --> 01:50:02,347
Speaker 29: but there was a desire to move on from him,

2091
01:50:02,427 --> 01:50:04,627
Speaker 29: notwithstanding the relative success that he had.

2092
01:50:04,747 --> 01:50:07,387
Speaker 9: So you know, that's the reality we know about. That

2093
01:50:07,547 --> 01:50:11,027
Speaker 9: is key Weason. But you know, having said that, I

2094
01:50:11,307 --> 01:50:13,987
Speaker 9: encourage everybody to get right in behind raise her because

2095
01:50:14,387 --> 01:50:15,627
Speaker 9: it's not easy what he's doing.

2096
01:50:16,347 --> 01:50:18,627
Speaker 29: And you know, we need to have some patients with

2097
01:50:18,827 --> 01:50:21,667
Speaker 29: him and allow all of this to play out in

2098
01:50:21,747 --> 01:50:23,627
Speaker 29: the way that he's envisioned.

2099
01:50:23,707 --> 01:50:26,947
Speaker 3: As you've outlined. Oh and Gala Southgate came under immense

2100
01:50:27,387 --> 01:50:31,347
Speaker 3: heat during the Euros, despite the fact that he guided

2101
01:50:31,387 --> 01:50:34,147
Speaker 3: the team all the way to the final. What I mean,

2102
01:50:34,427 --> 01:50:36,747
Speaker 3: how did you feel watching him? You know, cop it

2103
01:50:37,147 --> 01:50:39,587
Speaker 3: not just you know from the media fans on social media,

2104
01:50:39,627 --> 01:50:42,867
Speaker 3: but also having placed a cups thrown at him at

2105
01:50:42,867 --> 01:50:43,267
Speaker 3: one point.

2106
01:50:45,627 --> 01:50:47,707
Speaker 29: It was very tough because you know, he's my friend

2107
01:50:47,787 --> 01:50:51,107
Speaker 29: as well as my colleague, and I didn't like to

2108
01:50:51,147 --> 01:50:53,227
Speaker 29: see him suffer. And he's got a beautiful family and

2109
01:50:53,347 --> 01:50:54,627
Speaker 29: they suffer as well, so I.

2110
01:50:54,667 --> 01:50:55,307
Speaker 8: Didn't like that.

2111
01:50:55,427 --> 01:50:58,067
Speaker 29: And to be perfectly honest, I'm sort of relieved in

2112
01:50:58,187 --> 01:51:00,907
Speaker 29: many ways that he's resigned and we'll move into.

2113
01:51:00,747 --> 01:51:02,667
Speaker 9: Club football management now.

2114
01:51:02,747 --> 01:51:04,987
Speaker 29: One of the things we did with the team, and

2115
01:51:05,107 --> 01:51:07,667
Speaker 29: I learned this when I did my research before I

2116
01:51:07,787 --> 01:51:12,427
Speaker 29: started with helping them, was that they didn't really talk

2117
01:51:12,467 --> 01:51:14,947
Speaker 29: about what they were trying to eve. They didn't really

2118
01:51:14,987 --> 01:51:18,707
Speaker 29: talk too much about the purpose of playing for England

2119
01:51:18,747 --> 01:51:20,387
Speaker 29: and what it was to be English. Didn't talk about

2120
01:51:20,387 --> 01:51:22,227
Speaker 29: those things. I think the All Blacks are much more

2121
01:51:22,307 --> 01:51:25,147
Speaker 29: sophisticated in how they think about what the shirt represents.

2122
01:51:25,467 --> 01:51:28,147
Speaker 29: With England, you were expected to get it and put

2123
01:51:28,227 --> 01:51:30,267
Speaker 29: it on and play well. And one of the things

2124
01:51:30,307 --> 01:51:33,627
Speaker 29: that we learned was that some of the players, and

2125
01:51:33,867 --> 01:51:35,787
Speaker 29: I remember Michael Wowen told me this, is that some

2126
01:51:35,867 --> 01:51:37,907
Speaker 29: of the players really believe what the media was saying,

2127
01:51:38,107 --> 01:51:41,467
Speaker 29: and the media was saying in the Golden Generation years

2128
01:51:42,067 --> 01:51:46,627
Speaker 29: that you guys don't really care, that you're selfish, that

2129
01:51:46,867 --> 01:51:51,107
Speaker 29: you're technically not that great, that you're mentally weak, you

2130
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Speaker 29: can't take penalties. And one of the things Gareth did

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Speaker 29: successfully is create a complete bubble around that external noise

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Speaker 29: and just change the narrative to an internal, optimistic view

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Speaker 29: of who we were and what we could become.

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Speaker 9: Did an amazing job of that.

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Speaker 29: And the players really did churn out from the external

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Speaker 29: voices and focused on this much more positive story about

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Speaker 29: how they could become. But to be honest, I could

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Speaker 29: see it over the last few weeks it was still

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Speaker 29: even getting through to him, the criticism and the negativity.

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Speaker 29: And he's an honorable man and you know, if the

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Speaker 29: fans wanted to change, then he would accept that, and

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Speaker 29: that was part of his reasoning.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to England overcoming that final obstacle and

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Speaker 3: winning major trophies. I mean, as we've outlined under Gareth,

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Speaker 3: you know, they've reached a couple of Euro finals, a

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Speaker 3: semi final and a quarter final of a FIFA World Cup.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to winning one of these, is it

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Speaker 3: a mindset thing, or is it, as I said before,

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Speaker 3: playing better football that's more important or other two inextricably linked.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's football in particular, is such small margins? Really?

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Speaker 12: Really?

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Speaker 29: Is talking about interests decide massive games? The team is

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Speaker 29: not far off, that's pretty obvious if you make two

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Speaker 29: finals of the Euros. The first one they made went

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Speaker 29: all the way through extra time and then to a

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Speaker 29: penalty shootout, and then the second one was one all

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Speaker 29: up to the eighty fifth minute, So they're not far away.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 29: Again, there'll be football experts out there who will be

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Speaker 29: able to point to some areas of detail that could

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Speaker 29: be improved upon, no doubt, and some tactical ideas that

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Speaker 29: probably will take the team to another level.

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Speaker 9: I'm comfortable in saying that. But one thing that I

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Speaker 9: have a slight fear of is that.

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Speaker 29: Football in particular, there's this cult of personality around a coach,

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Speaker 29: and well, what that sort of means is you put

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01:53:49,347 --> 01:53:52,747
Speaker 29: a coach in you don't necessarily really understand all their

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Speaker 29: principles of play and how they approach things, their cultural blueprint.

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Speaker 9: So when they leave, you ask.

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Speaker 29: Someone else to take the job, and all those incredible

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Speaker 29: learnings and the things that worked really well under the

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Speaker 29: previous manager is sort of all thrown up in the

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Speaker 29: year and the new manager has given complete discretion as

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Speaker 29: to how they want to do these things. And you know,

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Speaker 29: I don't that worries me because it's not about Garatuthgate

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Speaker 29: and his personality and his coaching style. There were certain

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Speaker 29: things that he discovered as manager, in particular what was

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Speaker 29: the optimal environment.

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Speaker 9: For English players, what they really enjoyed and thrived in.

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Speaker 29: And I do fear that a new coach will come

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Speaker 29: in not part of any of that experience and will

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Speaker 29: just bring in their own ideas from a completely different context.

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Speaker 29: I think the All Blacks are pretty good at protecting

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Speaker 29: themselves about that. I think they know some of those

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Speaker 29: things that work really well, and they want continuity. I

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Speaker 29: think if a new coach wanted to be the All

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Speaker 29: Blacks coach and said I don't really believe in play

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Speaker 29: a leadership group something, I'm going to blow that up,

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Speaker 29: I'm pretty sure they wouldn't get through the interview process.

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Speaker 29: But in the Football Association England. You know, although they

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Speaker 29: have engaged me for quite a long time, I'm slightly

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Speaker 29: nervous they don't quite understand the reality of how he

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Speaker 29: did get such consistently good performances out of that.

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Speaker 3: Wait yeah, well wait and see just to finish in

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Speaker 3: the fullness of time, and you know, with I guess

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Speaker 3: a few years reflection back on on what Gareth Southgate

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Speaker 3: achieved as England manager, what do you think is overriding

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Speaker 3: legacy will be.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think his overwriting legacy and it is one

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Speaker 9: that I will always have a lot of.

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Speaker 29: You know, pride in is that he took a team

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Speaker 29: which were very uncompetitive. The last competition they played before

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Speaker 29: he was a manager, they lost to Iceland in the

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Speaker 29: round of sixteen, okay, and he took that team and

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Speaker 29: made them extremely competitive and what walking you want from

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Speaker 29: a coach. And yes, they still to win a trophy,

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Speaker 29: So hopefully the next person can do that. But you know,

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Speaker 29: I talk about the idea of fucker Barber and the

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Speaker 29: idea of the sun moving down a line of people,

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Speaker 29: and while the sun shine on him, he took a

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Speaker 29: very uncompetitive team with I would say quite a dysfunctional

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Speaker 29: culture and made them one of the best teams in

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Speaker 29: the world. And now he's passed that on to someone

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Speaker 29: who will come in next and that's a huge.

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Speaker 9: Thing for him.

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Speaker 3: Do you're proud of fascinating insight? Owen, thanks so much

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Speaker 3: for joining us across New Zealand. It's been terrifically interesting

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Speaker 3: listening to your chat. Thank you great to chat, Jason.

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01:56:31,307 --> 01:56:35,547
Speaker 3: Thanks Ellen Owen Eastward there performance coach based in the UK.

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01:56:35,827 --> 01:56:39,107
Speaker 3: Some interesting insights there into working with the England football

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Speaker 3: team and in particular with Gareth Southgate. Sixteen to three.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, I'll give you your your timetable

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Speaker 3: for listening to or watching the Olympic Games tonight on

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Speaker 3: day two or full competition in Paris.

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Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason V and GJ. Gunn homes New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: most trusted Owen Builder News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be all right two forty seven, Gay, the Olympic

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Speaker 3: Games are the full day two or the What am

2230
01:57:10,627 --> 01:57:13,587
Speaker 3: I trying to say here? Andrew? The second day of

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01:57:13,627 --> 01:57:16,707
Speaker 3: full competition at the Paris Olympic Games? Did I get

2232
01:57:16,747 --> 01:57:17,187
Speaker 3: those words?

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Speaker 8: Out.

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Speaker 3: I think did you throw that one in there? Schedule timetable, itinerary, itinerary.

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Speaker 3: That's a very good one.

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Speaker 8: Actu.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even think of that one. Yeah, yeah, you

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01:57:24,867 --> 01:57:26,107
Speaker 3: got to write the lineup.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 3: You can listen right through the night on gold Sport

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Speaker 3: and iHeartRadio, either via traditional means, your transistor radio or

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Speaker 3: via your device. Just download the iHeartRadio app and then

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Speaker 3: search for gold Sport and you can get through the

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01:57:40,867 --> 01:57:44,267
Speaker 3: night commentary of all of this stuff. We're on the

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Speaker 3: air from seven o'clock and right through until the last

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Speaker 3: kiwis are in action Tomorrow. Equestrian Tonight of Venting Team

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01:57:51,307 --> 01:57:54,307
Speaker 3: Day two. It's the cross country for Janelle Price, Tim

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01:57:54,387 --> 01:57:57,907
Speaker 3: Price and Clark Johnston starting around eight thirty. We've got

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01:57:57,987 --> 01:58:02,347
Speaker 3: Georgia Rose Brown and the gymnastics Artistic individual all round

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Speaker 3: that starts around seven thirty. Quite a bit of rowing tonight.

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Speaker 3: The women's pair heats. Kate Haynes and Alana Sherman are

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01:58:11,187 --> 01:58:14,707
Speaker 3: our representatives. In the men's pair, Dan Williamson and Philip Wilson,

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01:58:16,347 --> 01:58:18,947
Speaker 3: that's around nine o'clock for both of those, sorry, eight

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01:58:18,947 --> 01:58:20,627
Speaker 3: to thirty for the women's pair. Nine for the men

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Speaker 3: are nine point thirty the lightweight double skull women's heats

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Speaker 3: Jackie Kiddle and Shannon Cox are our representatives, ten thirty

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Speaker 3: the women's four Jackie Gwala, Divina Waddie, Phoebe Spores and

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01:58:34,067 --> 01:58:38,187
Speaker 3: Kerry Williams. And at ten fifty the men's four heats

2259
01:58:38,267 --> 01:58:42,427
Speaker 3: Logan Ulrich, Matt McDonald, Tom Murray and Oliver McLane. So

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Speaker 3: quite a bit of rowing at the swimming pool. Lewis

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Speaker 3: Clairburton the heats of the men's four hundred individual medley,

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Speaker 3: Eric of fair Weather in the heats of the women's

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Speaker 3: two hundred freestyle, and Cain follows in the heats of

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01:58:54,787 --> 01:58:59,027
Speaker 3: the men's one hundred meter backstroke. We've also got sailing

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Speaker 3: underway in the forty nineer Isaac McCarty and William McKenzie,

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01:59:02,787 --> 01:59:05,587
Speaker 3: the forty nine er FX, Joe La and Molly Meach,

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Speaker 3: the winds Surfing Josh Armit and the men's andvela ten

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Speaker 3: half in the women's. Then we get over to Monday,

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Speaker 3: just after midnight the mountain bike cross country Sammy Maxwell

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Speaker 3: and the women's race canoe slalom. Luca Jones back in

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Speaker 3: action in the women's K one Semis and hopefully the

2272
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Speaker 3: final bit later on the football Ferns play Columbia No Drones,

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01:59:30,747 --> 01:59:34,987
Speaker 3: the Black Sticks play Belgium. Rugby sevens is underway for

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01:59:35,067 --> 01:59:38,747
Speaker 3: the women. Our Black Fern sevens play China at around

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Speaker 3: four o'clock and then a bit later on Canada around

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Speaker 3: seven thirty. Our surfers Safy Vetta and Billy Stammand are

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Speaker 3: in action. And then there are swimming finals tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: If Lewis Clairbert makes the men's four hundred am medley final,

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Speaker 3: which he should, that's at six thirty, and then Erica

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Speaker 3: Fairweather's women's two hundred freestyle final eight o'clock if she

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Speaker 3: makes that, and semi finals for Caine follows it. He

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02:00:06,547 --> 02:00:09,107
Speaker 3: makes the men's one under minute backstroke semi finals. So

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Speaker 3: there are some of the highlights that you might want

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Speaker 3: to listen in for, set an alarm clock for, or

2285
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Speaker 3: just stay up for. Really heaps of it across the night,

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Speaker 3: Lots to look forward to, and yeah, looking forward to

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Speaker 3: seeing our Black Fern and sevens get out there and look,

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Speaker 3: they could well be our first medal. However, having said that,

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Speaker 3: I quite like the chances of Lewis Clarebert and the

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Speaker 3: four hundred individual medley tomorrow morning. Heaps tonight final at

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Speaker 3: six thirty tomorrow morning. That might be worth just a

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Speaker 3: little listen night away from three news Talk said.

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Speaker 1: Bright breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails.

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Speaker 7: Weekends for it with Jason Pine News Talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB two fifty four. Just another note, nine forty tonight.

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Speaker 3: Simone Biles, perhaps one of the most famous sports people

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Speaker 3: on the planets, is underway in the women's gymnastics nine

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Speaker 3: forty tonight for Simone Biles. Thanks for our pointing that out, Andy,

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Speaker 3: and thanks for the last three hours. I think we

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Speaker 3: got through okay. Thanks for joining us on weekend Sport.

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Speaker 3: We're back on sports Talk tomorrow night between seven and eight.

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Speaker 3: You can catch Andy and I as part of the

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Speaker 3: Gold Sport commentary of the Paris Olympic Games. Our coverage

2304
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Speaker 3: starts on gold Sport at around seven o'clock tonight. Well

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Speaker 3: hopefully mostly just you, not me or else. Something really

2306
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Speaker 3: wrong has happened, hasn't it. Well, I'm gonna go and

2307
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Speaker 3: get my head down for a couple of hours. If

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Speaker 3: I don't surface by the time the swimming programs underway tonight,

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Speaker 3: maybe you could take the mic.

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Speaker 29: I'll do my best, but again I don't think I

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Speaker 29: could match some of your excellent expertise commentaries or which

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Speaker 29: I've heard in the past and is very very good.

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Speaker 8: Piney.

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Speaker 3: If you don't mind me saying so, I don't like

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Speaker 3: it all. I don't mind one little bit. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: producing the show as always, Mate. I have a RESTful afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening. And Tim Beverage after three song

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Speaker 3: to take us out today. It's all about looking at

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Speaker 3: things you shouldn't be spying on people haul and O

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Speaker 3: some private eyes tacking us out today.

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Speaker 19: Fine, standing the style, stand.

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Speaker 10: Watching, Let's see you read?

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Speaker 6: What game my.

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Speaker 19: Watch? Watching you.

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Speaker 2: Watch?

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Speaker 10: Listen, let's say.

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Speaker 1: Watch for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen

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