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Speaker 1: Can we go in the campaign of course. Vintor Mecabenny

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Speaker 1: with Usponcent very good morning to you. Good morning liber

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Speaker 1: manifesto die, what are they promising?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, the Labor manifesto quite different from the

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Speaker 2: one they ran on a few years ago under Jeremy Corbyn.

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Speaker 2: Keir Starmer is very much saying that his party is

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Speaker 2: the party for change, but he is for stability, not

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Speaker 2: chaos as we've had with the Conservatives. But there were,

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Speaker 2: in his own words, no surprises, no rabbits out of

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Speaker 2: the hat. He said he was not running to lead

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Speaker 2: a circus but a serious party, and that if you

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Speaker 2: wanted pantomime, go to Clapton where Nigel farages. So some

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Speaker 2: disappointment that there weren't any sort of real new retail

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Speaker 2: offers for voters, but a lot of feedback saying basically

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Speaker 2: this was going to work the sort of most dangerous

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Speaker 2: point for him in the whole election. Something going wrong

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Speaker 2: with the manifesto, because in twenty seventeen Theresa May thought

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Speaker 2: she was cruising to a nice majority in the election

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Speaker 2: that she called a snap one, and then it all

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Speaker 2: came apart on manifesto day, something which was dubbed the

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Speaker 2: dementia tax, which is selling your house basically to pay

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Speaker 2: for care in your older age. So far, there's been

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Speaker 2: nothing in the Labor manifesto that is undoing the work

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Speaker 2: that Kiirstarma has done for five years to rebuild his party.

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Speaker 1: What's your vibe so far on this campaign? Has anything

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Speaker 1: materially changed at all? And I referred to the polls

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Speaker 1: the message gap and the toy is going to.

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Speaker 2: Lose, only that the Tories are doing worse by the day. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: there was a great line last night when Kistarma and

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Speaker 2: Ritchie Sieck were in the North of England. They were

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Speaker 2: doing another TV debate, not heads ahead, but a sort

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Speaker 2: of in depth interview and then questions from the public

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Speaker 2: and one political editor here for a newspaper was asked,

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Speaker 2: you know what she thought about richistin Axlin d day

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Speaker 2: and he turned it around and she said, well, today

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Speaker 2: he hasn't punched a pensioner or kicked a dock, so

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Speaker 2: that's got to be better than the last few days.

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Speaker 2: That is the level of campaign he is at. The

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Speaker 2: Conservatives are looking at a real wipeout in this selection,

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Speaker 2: perhaps less than one hundred seats that had sort of

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Speaker 2: been something that people said a few months ago that

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Speaker 2: was dismissed, but now by the day looking more and

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Speaker 2: more likely because his performance last night in the debates

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Speaker 2: wasn't good. Two thirds of those who watched it said

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Speaker 2: that Kirstarma won easily.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then we come to JUE seven and Italy as

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Speaker 1: Zelenski's there. Of course, this package that Biden has been spreaking,

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Speaker 1: this fifty billion UIs is the bit money is on

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Speaker 1: its way what by the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, that's right. And I think this is

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Speaker 2: all about future proofing that the Ukraine war against war

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Speaker 2: effort against Russia in case of a Trump victory, because

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Speaker 2: what we're seeing both with the G seven members today

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Speaker 2: that package but also being in lockstep that Russia cannot

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Speaker 2: win this, that Ukraine will win, and that Western support

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Speaker 2: is with Ukraine. It is not wavering. We're also seeing

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Speaker 2: this in the meetings that are going on in the

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Speaker 2: NATO alliance. So this week we had the sort of

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Speaker 2: the nine Eastern members of NATO meeting with Jens Daltenberg.

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Speaker 2: They were talking about reaffirming their commitment to Ukraine and

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Speaker 2: the sport that was needed, their fears over a sort

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Speaker 2: of belief in Russia once again. It's all building to

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Speaker 2: this big meeting in a few weeks in Washington, DC

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Speaker 2: of NATO to celebrate the anniversary of that organization's founding,

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Speaker 2: I think the seventieth anniversary of the organization's founding, and

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Speaker 2: it's basically just have to make sure that whatever happens

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Speaker 2: with elections this year, Ukraine has the funding it needs

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Speaker 2: to carry on its war efforts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Mape, you have a good week and we'll catch up,

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Speaker 1: So appreciate it very much. Vincent Mecabinity out of the UK.

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