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Speaker 2: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine.

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Speaker 3: Yard and new Zella. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks eDV.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tame with you through to twelve o'clock mid

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Speaker 3: day today, and the numbers are in. The film has

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Speaker 3: only been in the theaters for a couple of days

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Speaker 3: and already MOEA two is on track to be the

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Speaker 3: second biggest animated opening film of all time, the second

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Speaker 3: biggest of all time, behind only The Incredibles too. That

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Speaker 3: is extraordinary, isn't it. Of course, it's the Thanksgiving weekend

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Speaker 3: in the US, so no doubt that is helping with

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Speaker 3: ONEA two in this morning on News Talks HEREB, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to get you too excited, but we have

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Speaker 3: the stars of Moana two with us in studio this morning.

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Speaker 3: This actor, I mean, you probably haven't heard of him.

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Speaker 3: He probably hasn't come across your radar. He certainly doesn't

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Speaker 3: have you know, on screen presence or anything like that,

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Speaker 3: and absolutely glittering CV so far. This guy, what's his name,

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Speaker 3: Tim Weader Morrison, Yeah, you might have made him, maybe

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Speaker 3: heard of him once or twice. He's going to be

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Speaker 3: with us in studio after ten o'clock this morning, so

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Speaker 3: cannot wait for that. Right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: Jack Team.

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Speaker 3: Now you don't need me to tell you this, but

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Speaker 3: Christmas cards are not the thing they once were. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I remember as a kid, our entire living room would

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Speaker 3: be clad with the things. Come mid December. Mom and

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Speaker 3: Dad would have a string going across every curtain rod,

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Speaker 3: every wall. They would send and receive thirty forty fifty

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Speaker 3: Christmas cards every Christmas. But you see it everywhere, don't you,

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Speaker 3: The death of the handwritten note. Every time I travel overseas,

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Speaker 3: I try and send my nephews and niece a couple

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Speaker 3: of little postcards, but finding them recently, just finding postcards

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Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. That tourist mecca of all places,

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Speaker 3: was extraordinarily difficult. So the drug stores had, you know,

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Speaker 3: key rings, the crappy plastic pens with tiny pictures of

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Speaker 3: the Washington Monument, but no postcards. No postcards. And even

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Speaker 3: when I went to the uber touristy shop right across

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Speaker 3: a book of fancy souvenir postcards for about forty New

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Speaker 3: Zealand dollars. Ah, no thanks. I finally found a few

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Speaker 3: in a shop with no lights that might well have

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Speaker 3: A lone pile of dusty, browning postcards, undisturbed until my

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Speaker 3: custom for who knows how many years? What happened when

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Speaker 3: these run out? I wondered, I like to send a

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Speaker 3: few Christmas cards, And keep in mind, I jot on

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Speaker 3: a notepad most days as part of my job. Right

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Speaker 3: and yet after I had just written three cards this week,

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Speaker 3: just three, my hand started hurting. I realized the muscles

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Speaker 3: they couldn't handle more than about five minutes of actual writing,

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Speaker 3: you know, actual writing with a pen. Writing go one

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Speaker 3: of the days when you would smash through fourteen or

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Speaker 3: removed cursive handwriting from the core curriculum. They did it

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Speaker 3: almost fifteen years ago. Now, in an age where you know,

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Speaker 3: been legislating to make handwriting a mandatory part of their

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Speaker 3: children's education. But of course you can only mandate so much.

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Speaker 3: There can be no mandating of postcards, or of Christmas cards. Postcards,

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Speaker 3: out first. Christmas cards maybe have slightly more tradition attached.

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Speaker 3: But why do I still persist? It's simple. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: an old soul, but there is still that something personal

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Speaker 3: email mail or a text or a meme, something real,

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Speaker 3: sitting down with pen in aching hand this week. It's

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Speaker 3: that receiving one of my handwritten Christmas cards is by

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Speaker 4: To read it.

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Speaker 3: Jack Team two ninety two is the text time. But

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna flick me a text, don't forget the

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Speaker 3: standard text costs apply. This morning. Our jacket Newstalk's HEDB

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Speaker 3: dot co dot nz is my email address before ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock this morning. A beautiful seasonal treat to share with you.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna recipe for a strawberry and vanilla shoe cake.

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Speaker 3: Strawberries are just coming in if you sold the patch

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Speaker 3: in time like we did at my place. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 3: they are just delicious at this time of year. So

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Speaker 3: we will share that recipe with you very shortly. Kevin

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Speaker 3: Milne to kick the show off next twelve past nine,

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning and this is Newstalk's

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Speaker 3: He'd be.

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Speaker 2: No bitter way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack and vpur dot co dot z

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Speaker 3: Quarter past nine on news Talk Z'DB. Jack Christmas cards

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Speaker 3: went out last century for goodness sakes, is Angela, get

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Speaker 3: with the program, Get with the Times, Angela, I can

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Speaker 3: assure you I am never with the program nor the Times.

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Speaker 3: Jack postcards, you can't forget to mention that. When in Washington,

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Speaker 3: if you found a single postcard, that's one thing, But

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Speaker 3: try finding a stamp and then somewhere to post it.

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Speaker 3: It's even harder, says Jid. Yeah, that's true. Although you know,

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Speaker 3: and it was absolutely humming. I think because they were

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Speaker 3: So I went in there was like a line of

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Speaker 3: it's like I've just gone back thirty years ninety two.

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Speaker 3: If you want to send this message Jacketwstalk's dB dot

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Speaker 3: co dot NZ. Kevin Milner's with us this morning. Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you would still favor a handwritten note, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I love the idea. In fact, you brought back

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Speaker 5: a whole lot of beautiful memory.

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Speaker 3: Love the idea. It's not the practice necessarily.

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Speaker 5: When you're talked about the stringing the cards up in

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Speaker 5: the setting room, I think we call it, yep, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and you'd have, yeah, thirty or forty. You'd count them

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Speaker 5: to see whether it exceeded last year's number of cards.

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Speaker 6: Well I did.

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Speaker 5: My parents didn't, but I did, and just to see

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Speaker 3: Hat So when do you reckon on that note? Then

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Speaker 3: when do you reckon they peaked? When did we reach

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Speaker 3: peak Christmas card? Because I think they've probably been on

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Speaker 3: the slide for most of the century.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say even i'd go back to the sixties.

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Speaker 3: I think, oh wow, yeah, yeah, And the sixties would

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Speaker 3: have been a time as well when the Christmas Letter,

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Speaker 3: the annual Christmas letter was a real thing, Because I

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Speaker 3: reckon the Christmas Leader died out before postcards. But the

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Speaker 3: Christmas Leader existed in a time when it was really

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Speaker 3: expensive to call people and you couldn't just send them

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Speaker 3: easily as we can today, which meant that often the

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, you're not referring to the ones that they

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Speaker 5: and been the same letter, but they just put your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'd say, oh, it's been a great year

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Speaker 3: in the Milne household. This year, young ev has passed

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Speaker 5: Oh they were despicable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: People would just rave on about their family success, very

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Speaker 3: And I could tell that's all right. He anyway, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you've been fascinated this year by the prospect of a

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Speaker 3: four year long cruise offered to Americans while Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: is in power.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was reading during the week about this

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Speaker 5: cruise ship, the Odyssey, that's offering a four year cruise

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Speaker 5: at forty thousand dollars a year, traveling to one hundred

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Speaker 5: suggestion it might be a great way for Americans to

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Speaker 5: plans for this cruise well before the elections. And a

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Speaker 5: couple of things spring to mind. Jack One, it wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be a bad way for someone my age to kind

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Speaker 5: your food's presumably paid for, and off you go to

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Speaker 5: lots of obvious concerns. Is there a hospital on board

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Speaker 5: So a potential issue there. Four years on the boat

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Speaker 5: retirement village. But imagine rounding off your life by wandering

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Speaker 5: apparently drifting past Antarctica. What do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Jeck, I reckon, Yeah, I reckon. It's very attractive in theory.

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Speaker 5: The Yeah, but think if you're on an old folks

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Speaker 3: Ways it's true. It's true if you've.

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Speaker 5: Moved to a retirement village, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The second thought I have. If escaping the United States

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Speaker 5: wile trumps and powers such a selling point, why doesn't

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Speaker 5: Trump retires. Just could tie us over where. There are

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Speaker 5: people shortages here in so many areas. I suspect some

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Speaker 5: high networth families might enjoy two years over here as well.

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Speaker 5: I suppose one thing to watch out for the visas

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Speaker 5: that have to be specifically state four years, not till

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Speaker 5: the next US elections, just in case Trump decides there's

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Speaker 5: no need for any more elect.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think if they were to do it, given that,

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Speaker 3: as much of a demand if Trump hadn't won the election.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not quite just as much. But you know, if

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Speaker 3: I reckon of Cama won the election, there will still

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Speaker 3: be playing Americans who say I want to get out

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Speaker 3: for the next four years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you're right, Actually, yeah, you're right. It's not a

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Speaker 5: bad idea. Americans are good people, so they're well trained.

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Speaker 5: We could get them over here just for four years

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Speaker 5: and while we sort out our own employment situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what do you reckon? What would stop you

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Speaker 3: Michael says, Jack, your discussion on the Christmas Letter reminds

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Speaker 6: The Jong Claude van Dam of your generation. There are

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I really hope. So thank you so much, Sam.

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Speaker 3: Where are you?

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Speaker 2: What I am saying? What I gotta go ninety days?

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Speaker 2: You know, she's getting older, so.

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Speaker 3: Good deal older and I am. But anyway, there's good Rich,

433
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Speaker 3: tell us about it. Francisca.

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Speaker 10: I look, I'm going to be honest.

435
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Speaker 9: I love the beginning of this film, and the beginning

436
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Speaker 9: of this film is what you just heard on the

437
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Speaker 9: trainer there with this with this character played by Michael

438
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Speaker 9: Keaton called Ay Goodrich, who is a workaholic at Dela,

439
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Speaker 9: gets a call from his wife to tell him I've

440
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Speaker 9: gone to rehab and he's.

441
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Speaker 11: Like, what do you mean you don't drink that much and.

442
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Speaker 9: She's like, no, I'm addicted to pills and he's like, what, No,

443
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Speaker 9: you're not.

444
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Speaker 8: And then he kind of wakes up.

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Speaker 9: In the next one and going he drives up to

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Speaker 9: see her, she won't see him. He comes home, he's

447
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Speaker 9: got these two nine year old twins. He stats sort

448
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Speaker 9: of mentioning to other people, I don't know what's happened.

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Speaker 3: Nomi's gone to.

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Speaker 9: Rehab and they're like, oh yeah, and everybody else knows

451
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Speaker 9: everyone else.

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Speaker 10: It was not a surprising on him.

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Speaker 9: And it's such a great setup because it tells you

454
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Speaker 9: so much about this character that we're about to go

455
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Speaker 9: on this journey with.

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Speaker 10: It tells you that he is a worgholic. He is

457
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Speaker 10: not present in anyone's lives.

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Speaker 9: He has no idea, what is even happening in his

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Speaker 9: own home or with his wife, and it's just a

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Speaker 9: It was a really clever way of setting this film up.

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Speaker 9: I think they do quite a decent job with this

462
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Speaker 9: film of what I thought was.

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Speaker 11: Going to be quite a formulaic family drama.

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Speaker 10: But it surprised me by only giving me half.

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Speaker 11: The fairy tale Hollywood ending that I thought that I

466
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Speaker 11: was going to get, and not everything works out, you know, perfectly,

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Speaker 11: And actually that's really satisfying in this film, because of

468
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Speaker 11: course life is messy as that nothing sort.

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Speaker 2: Of works out perfectly.

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Speaker 10: Michael Keaton is absolutely fabulous in this film.

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Speaker 9: He's sort of at this age where he can pull

472
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Speaker 9: off being he's on his second or third marriage second,

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Speaker 9: I think, and you know, he's got an older daughter,

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Speaker 9: Grace played by Melaicunas, who he kind.

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Speaker 11: Of pulls in to help him out.

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Speaker 9: She's got a lot of issues about the fact that

477
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Speaker 9: he was a completely absent dad. He's got these two

478
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Speaker 9: young twins who are just absolutely fantastic and wonderfree, wonderfully

479
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Speaker 9: sort of precocious, and he doesn't really have anything to

480
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Speaker 9: do with them, so suddenly he's part of their day

481
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Speaker 9: to day lives and he says something to them. He

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Speaker 9: says to the daughter something about something she says and

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Speaker 9: how ala it is, and she just looks at him

484
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Speaker 9: and says something along the lines of, you know what,

485
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Speaker 9: if you don't want me to talk like I'm from La,

486
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Speaker 9: don't raise me in LA. It's there's really nice lines

487
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Speaker 9: and things in here. But really this is a film

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Speaker 9: about whether a middle aged man can kind of change

489
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Speaker 9: his way, whether he can overcome his self involvement, whether

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Speaker 9: he can give people sort of time and nurture relationships.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, I was.

492
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Speaker 10: I was pleasantly surprised. I thought it was going to

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Speaker 10: be very predictable.

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Speaker 9: It is kind of predictable, Jack, But actually I kind

495
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Speaker 9: of got drawn into it and enjoyed it.

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Speaker 12: Really.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, that sounds great, So that is good Rich.

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Speaker 3: That one is showing in cinemas at the moment. Next up,

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Speaker 3: this one is streaming on Prime Videos starting on Tuesday

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Speaker 3: of this week. This is Absolution.

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Speaker 7: I've been having these headaches.

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Speaker 4: Have you sustained concussions over the course of your life?

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Speaker 13: You could say that.

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Speaker 7: Just tell me what I need to get better.

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Speaker 2: There is no treatment.

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Speaker 14: This is your grandfather, Mark says, your in prison for

507
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Speaker 14: not walking away.

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Speaker 15: That is Liam mason.

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Speaker 3: Last action.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, because he's seventy two now and he's kind of

511
00:26:10,173 --> 00:26:12,053
Speaker 9: decided that, you know, really to be able to pull

512
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Speaker 9: it off and for it to look authentic, he's probably

513
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Speaker 9: an age and stage now where he's going.

514
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Speaker 3: But I feel like, isn't it a strick that he

515
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Speaker 3: always like He's always like, uh, you know, I've had

516
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Speaker 3: a few bumps and scrapes over the years, and I

517
00:26:23,653 --> 00:26:25,213
Speaker 3: can't run as fast as I used to it, but

518
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Speaker 3: I can still shoot straight.

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Speaker 9: Look at I want to be aged just doesn't beieve

520
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Speaker 9: he should do anything he wanted any time, you know.

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Speaker 8: And he does have a great.

522
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Speaker 9: Stunt person, but he does do a lot of his

523
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Speaker 9: own fight scenes and things like that as well, and

524
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Speaker 9: he probably, to be honest with you, there are some

525
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Speaker 9: good boxing scenes in this film, and I was a little.

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Speaker 16: Bit worried about him, but then I'm worried about anyone.

527
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Speaker 3: In the boxing row.

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Speaker 8: Look.

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Speaker 9: Both the films that I'm talking about today feat your

530
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Speaker 9: middle aged men kind of reflecting on their lives. This one, though,

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Speaker 9: is a bit more meandering, a little bit more brooding.

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Speaker 9: If you were going to go and see Liam Nissan

533
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Speaker 9: in this film where he plays a very old school gangster.

534
00:27:02,213 --> 00:27:04,173
Speaker 9: He looks like he's from the seventies. The film makes

535
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Speaker 9: she feels like it could have been made in the

536
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Speaker 9: seventies a little bit as well. And then don't go

537
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Speaker 9: for the action because this is actually quite a slow, brooding,

538
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Speaker 9: reflective film as opposed to that sort.

539
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Speaker 11: Of you know, sexy, quick bang bang.

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Speaker 16: Kind of thriller.

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Speaker 11: So just just putting that out there for you.

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Speaker 10: It's a film.

543
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Speaker 9: That kind of takes a look at broken relationships once again.

544
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Speaker 11: He's got a very dysfunctional relationship with his daughter. He

545
00:27:32,933 --> 00:27:35,093
Speaker 11: discovers he's got CT which I didn't think could be

546
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Speaker 11: diagnosed until he actually died.

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Speaker 9: Anyway, he's got a terrible dementia and he knows too long.

548
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Speaker 9: Ye yes, yeah, yeah, when fas get in the way.

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Speaker 3: I was so believable. Otherwise anyway, sorry they say that.

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Speaker 9: Anyway, Moving on, So he he's trying to sort of

551
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Speaker 9: maybe repair damage that's done and try to stop sort

552
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Speaker 9: of the cycles of violence that has gone through his

553
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Speaker 9: family and leave a legacy to his grandchildren. But the

554
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Speaker 9: underworld is a very hard place to leave, and so

555
00:28:03,453 --> 00:28:05,213
Speaker 9: he kind of gets a little bit stuck in there.

556
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Speaker 8: I think Liam Lison elevates this material.

557
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Speaker 9: I think they've got the tone and the pacing not

558
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Speaker 9: I don't think they've got the tone in the pacing

559
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Speaker 9: right for this film and what they were trying to achieve.

560
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Speaker 9: But look, I'll always sit and watch a little bit

561
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Speaker 9: of Liam Nison. Also stars Ron Pilman and Landa Ross.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. Okay, yeah, it does sound like a bit of fun,

563
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Speaker 3: and that's that's what it's all about. So that it's

564
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Speaker 3: not fun, well you know what I mean though, it's

565
00:28:26,733 --> 00:28:30,093
Speaker 3: like escapism, you know, it's not Yeah, it's not funny.

566
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Speaker 3: A bit of escape, a bit of escapism anyway. Okay,

567
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Speaker 3: so that's absolution. By the way, Friends Escaped producer Libby

568
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Speaker 3: went and saw Wicked on Your Advice this week. She

569
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Speaker 3: said she enjoyed it, but she found it extremely long, so.

570
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Speaker 10: She knows it's only part one.

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Speaker 3: She knows it's only part one. So she said she

572
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Speaker 3: did not feel like Wicked the whole story needed to

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Speaker 3: be a five hour epochs. So she agreed one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Agrees with you. She said they got point. There were

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Speaker 3: points in the film where she was like, I really

576
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Speaker 3: don't think this needs to be a song. I think

577
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Speaker 3: it could have just been one line or a facial

578
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Speaker 3: expression and that would have covered us. But instead we've

579
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Speaker 3: got six minutes in it. Yeah, I would drag.

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Speaker 10: Her along to the part two pre when it comes out.

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Speaker 3: She'll be fizzing. Hey, thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: We will love catching you next week. Francesca Rudkin. There

583
00:29:16,053 --> 00:29:18,973
Speaker 3: those films again, good Rich. That's the one showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 3: The second one, Absolution, is the one with Liam Neeson.

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Speaker 3: So that is going to be on Prime Video from

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Speaker 3: Tuesday of this week. And don't worry if you haven't

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Speaker 3: Jack says Carla. I was still receiving about one hundred

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Speaker 3: cards a year at the turn of the century, and

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Speaker 3: I used to send handwritten cards with a short family

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Speaker 3: letter to which I would add stuff at the very bottom.

596
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Speaker 3: Sent cards until twenty nineteen, when we started living in

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Speaker 3: you Carlor. One hundred cards a year. I mean that

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Speaker 3: is amazing, amazing to receive that many cards. I don't

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Speaker 3: a handwritten card, and I enjoy the thought. I certainly

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Speaker 3: thank you Jack. I live in Auckland. I've got a

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Speaker 3: Christmas cards and the dreaded long letter. In the days

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Speaker 3: of thirty or forty cards, it was honestly a bit

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Speaker 3: a huge pleasure to receive them. Hint, hint, thanks Margaret

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Speaker 3: thirteen to ten on News Talks, he'd be NICKI wex

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Speaker 3: our cook is here this morning, Kelder.

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Speaker 17: Kyota. It is the highlight of my year when I

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Speaker 17: go out to my mailbox and finds the Christmas card

626
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Speaker 17: from YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Oh, come on, we all know you're pushing things too, father.

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Speaker 17: I think, I think, should I say, it's this predictable

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Speaker 17: surprise you go?

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Speaker 3: There, you go, even.

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Speaker 17: Though you've mentioned it today, I know that, but you've

632
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Speaker 17: sent me one this year.

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Speaker 3: It'll get eventually, Oh my gosh, there it is. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it's great, Yeah, you go. Strawberries are in season.

635
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Speaker 3: I tell you what I've had so since I had

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Speaker 3: I've had so far this year. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: it was this year. I think fantastic. I think it

639
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Speaker 3: was not mentioning it to the seven year old that

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641
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642
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Speaker 3: so it hasn't come across all of the strawberries. But

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Speaker 3: they are just coming into season and they're delicious. They

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Speaker 3: really are.

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Speaker 17: This warmer weather is really serving us well. And I

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Speaker 17: wish someone would tell my tell the birds. I mean,

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Speaker 17: I just grab them for the birds flanly, they lift

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Speaker 17: them in my gun, and the years you can put

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Speaker 17: the netting over and all that, but then you find

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Speaker 17: a poor bird flapping around in there.

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Speaker 3: I can't be bothered.

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Speaker 17: So I agree. They're really good. They're really great this season.

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00:32:32,173 --> 00:32:34,853
Speaker 17: They're sweet, they're luscious. They're not watery in any way.

654
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Speaker 17: It doesn't seem to me. So I'm loving them. And look,

655
00:32:37,493 --> 00:32:41,413
Speaker 17: this is a new recipe. I will admit to seeing

656
00:32:41,453 --> 00:32:44,853
Speaker 17: a version of this on Instagram. And when what's that

657
00:32:44,853 --> 00:32:48,413
Speaker 17: that looks great? And it's this giant shoe cake and

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Speaker 17: shoe is c hou x the past So if you

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Speaker 17: think it clear as in the pastry, so if you

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Speaker 17: think about it in a clear or a cream puff,

661
00:32:58,133 --> 00:33:01,173
Speaker 17: that's what this isn't I just absolutely love this cake.

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Speaker 17: It's amazing. It comes from the Polish carpacker, which is

663
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Speaker 17: a very traditional, a little bit like our pavlova, but

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Speaker 17: I've sort of mixed it up, made it a bit

665
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Speaker 17: easier and a bit more rustic. So I'm going to

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Speaker 17: run us through the recipe. Shoe bastry frightens people, fear not.

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Speaker 17: This is what you do in a pot. You're going

668
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Speaker 17: to combine seventy five mills of water and seventy five

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Speaker 17: mills of milk, seventy five grams of butter, and one

670
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Speaker 17: tablespoon of sugar and a little pinch of salt. I mean,

671
00:33:30,493 --> 00:33:33,253
Speaker 17: I've put a teaspoon of salt in mine, but that's gratuitous,

672
00:33:33,573 --> 00:33:36,293
Speaker 17: even I admit that. And you heat that over a

673
00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:39,493
Speaker 17: medium heat until it starts simmering. Then take it off

674
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Speaker 17: the heat jack and add in flour. One hundred grams

675
00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:45,133
Speaker 17: of sifted flour gets dumped in there, and you mix

676
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Speaker 17: it around until there's no dry flour left in there,

677
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Speaker 17: and then bring it back to the heat and sort

678
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Speaker 17: of stir it in the pot and it forms a ball,

679
00:33:53,413 --> 00:33:56,893
Speaker 17: which is just the flour cooking out jack, and it'll

680
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Speaker 17: come away from the sides of the pot. There will

681
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:01,813
Speaker 17: be some residue at the bottom of the pot. That's fine,

682
00:34:01,893 --> 00:34:04,133
Speaker 17: that's normal. Don't expect to have a sort of non

683
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Speaker 17: sticking situation. Take it off the heat, and at that

684
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Speaker 17: point you can either do this but with a hand

685
00:34:10,093 --> 00:34:13,493
Speaker 17: beat a wooden spoon which I used to use these days,

686
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Speaker 17: I tip it into my bowl of my mixer and

687
00:34:16,373 --> 00:34:18,613
Speaker 17: I do it with a standing mixer because I find

688
00:34:18,653 --> 00:34:22,573
Speaker 17: it easier. We're going to add three large eggs to this. Now,

689
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Speaker 17: this is the tricky bit. You want to beat those

690
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Speaker 17: eggs prior, and you want to add a sort of

691
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Speaker 17: about an egg at a time. But on the last egg,

692
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Speaker 17: you want to kind of just put a little bit in,

693
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Speaker 17: a little bit in a little bit. If you try

694
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Speaker 17: and do that with an unbeaten egg, the whole fing

695
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Speaker 17: goes in. So that's why you get to beat them first.

696
00:34:38,773 --> 00:34:42,253
Speaker 17: Because we're looking for a consistency once you add these

697
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:45,133
Speaker 17: eggs and beat them into the dough, we're looking for this,

698
00:34:45,493 --> 00:34:48,813
Speaker 17: you know, just shy of a dropping consistency, I'd say, Jack.

699
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Speaker 17: So you want the beaters to kind of, you know,

700
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Speaker 17: the dough not to quite fall off those beaters, and

701
00:34:53,773 --> 00:34:57,933
Speaker 17: it'll be smooth and it'll be glossy and beautiful. And

702
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Speaker 17: then whack. You actually whack your oven before you've done

703
00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:04,053
Speaker 17: any of this on two hundred degrees fan. And you

704
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Speaker 17: want to line the bottoms of two, say twenty to

705
00:35:07,813 --> 00:35:12,413
Speaker 17: twenty three send tometer spring formed tins with baking paper

706
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Speaker 17: and grease up the sides a little bit with butter.

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00:35:15,693 --> 00:35:17,493
Speaker 17: We're gonna split the dough. We're gonna do a bit

708
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Speaker 17: in each. If you don't have two tins the same size,

709
00:35:19,733 --> 00:35:21,493
Speaker 17: just do them one after the other because they've only

710
00:35:21,493 --> 00:35:24,813
Speaker 17: got cooking time of twenty twenty five minutes. So you

711
00:35:24,893 --> 00:35:27,133
Speaker 17: take that dough that's quite stiff, and you spread it

712
00:35:27,133 --> 00:35:31,213
Speaker 17: around the base of that lined tin and scrape it

713
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Speaker 17: a little bit up the sides, which is weird.

714
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Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was gonna work. It's weird.

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Speaker 17: And then with the back of the spoon, I even

716
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Speaker 17: sort of put the back of the spoon into the

717
00:35:40,573 --> 00:35:42,933
Speaker 17: dough all over the surface and sort of pull it

718
00:35:43,013 --> 00:35:45,893
Speaker 17: up so that there's these kind of little little points,

719
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Speaker 17: little hills. And what happens is after when we cook that,

720
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Speaker 17: they became these sort of crevices and valleys, which was

721
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:54,933
Speaker 17: just what you want bake it for twenty five minutes.

722
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Speaker 17: It should be a deep, even kind of golden color,

723
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Speaker 17: and then call it down completely for ten minutes. To

724
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Speaker 17: assemble the cake, jack super super simple. Whip some cream.

725
00:36:05,453 --> 00:36:08,693
Speaker 17: I'm just using some regular cream with maybe one or

726
00:36:08,693 --> 00:36:12,093
Speaker 17: two big tablespoons of icing sugar, a big tablespoon of

727
00:36:12,133 --> 00:36:14,813
Speaker 17: vanilla extract. I really want that vanilla to flavor to

728
00:36:14,853 --> 00:36:17,533
Speaker 17: come through with our strawberries. Whip that until you've sort

729
00:36:17,533 --> 00:36:21,373
Speaker 17: of got soft peaks, and then fold in a very

730
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:24,773
Speaker 17: thick strawbought custard. I use the Mellow Fresh, not an

731
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Speaker 17: ad just saying it's thick and creamy.

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Speaker 2: It's the best white out there for that.

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Speaker 17: And then what you're going to do is to assemble

734
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Speaker 17: the cake, because you've got two of these beautiful discs.

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00:36:34,053 --> 00:36:35,853
Speaker 17: You put one on the serving plate, you put the

736
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Speaker 17: spring form tin back around it, Pile on your cream

737
00:36:38,653 --> 00:36:42,413
Speaker 17: and custard, Pile on some chopped strawberries in there. Probably

738
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Speaker 17: used about a cup of strawberries, and you serve some

739
00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:47,293
Speaker 17: on the side, and then put another layer of cream

740
00:36:47,293 --> 00:36:51,253
Speaker 17: and then gently press down that next shoe layer and

741
00:36:51,293 --> 00:36:53,573
Speaker 17: that's in the spring form tin, and then just refrigerate

742
00:36:53,573 --> 00:36:56,613
Speaker 17: it for a couple of hours or even overnight. Spring

743
00:36:56,693 --> 00:36:58,973
Speaker 17: you know, open the spring of the tin. It's already

744
00:36:58,973 --> 00:37:01,253
Speaker 17: on your serving paint dust it with icing sugar, and

745
00:37:01,373 --> 00:37:05,653
Speaker 17: it is amazing that sort of shoe pastry. It's got

746
00:37:05,693 --> 00:37:09,173
Speaker 17: such an all my most neutral flavor. Yeah against you

747
00:37:09,293 --> 00:37:12,333
Speaker 17: beautiful vanilla cream, custard and the strawberries. It's great. You

748
00:37:12,373 --> 00:37:13,613
Speaker 17: just chop it into big weaches.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome. Oh so good. Good for the Christmas table. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it looks so good for the Christmas table. Absolutely, you

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Speaker 3: are not thank you. We will make sure that recipe

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Speaker 3: is up and available at Newstalks edb dot co dot

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Speaker 3: Nz so you can make it for a we treat

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Speaker 3: this weekend and we'll be back at a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's seven to ten on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. We've had so many texts and

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Speaker 3: emails this hour, and I'm glad that I'm not the

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Speaker 3: only one kind of lamenting the slow death of the

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Speaker 3: handwritten note. I know It's something we've been dealing with

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Speaker 3: for a wee while now, but it's this time of

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Speaker 3: year when you really come to appreciate Today. Jack absolutely

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Speaker 3: love listening to you on a Saturday morning and agree

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Speaker 3: regarding Christmas cards, you asked for a record. I reckon

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Speaker 3: our record was more than one hundred and twenty. That

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Speaker 3: would have been before the year two thousand. That's remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Karen. I appreciate your message one hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 3: But if you've got a scene one hundred and twenty,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, no wonder people decided that maybe emails

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Speaker 3: and texts could be easier anyway. After ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 3: if you are looking for a nice quiet weekend on

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Speaker 3: the couch at home, good news, we've got our screen

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Speaker 3: time segment with shows to watch your stream from home.

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Speaker 3: As well as that, of course, the stars of one

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Speaker 3: O two are going to be with us in studio.

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Speaker 3: It is going absolute gangbusters at the box office so far.

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Speaker 3: Affy my Phraser, David Funny and yes, mister timwhit To

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Speaker 3: Morrison are going to be with us right after the

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock news. News is next not it's almost ten

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Speaker 3: o'b jac Davis Saturday Morning, and this is news Talk's Edvy.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and bpure.

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Speaker 2: Dot co dot inzeat for high quality supplements. News Talks'.

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Speaker 4: Sign how and it comfort.

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Speaker 3: Ah So catchy, isn't it. The sequel to Disney's smash

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00:39:41,373 --> 00:39:44,293
Speaker 3: hit animation Mowana has sailed into cinemas this week. So

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Speaker 3: in the first film, of course, Mina was chosen by

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00:39:46,573 --> 00:39:50,213
Speaker 3: her way finding ancestors and the mysterious forces of the

791
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Speaker 3: ocean to restore the natural order of things. And the

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00:39:53,493 --> 00:39:58,093
Speaker 3: Mourana story is really champion Pacific mythology. Mona two is

793
00:39:58,133 --> 00:40:01,453
Speaker 3: making history as the first Indigenous language film to premiere

794
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Speaker 3: globally alongside its English counterpart. So they've got a Totereal

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Speaker 3: Maldi version that has been released this week simultaneously. Both

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Speaker 3: versions feature huge Pacific a key. We've voiced casts and

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Speaker 3: we are lucky to have in studio chief Tuy Martangi

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Speaker 3: and Kelly that's Tim Weader Morris and Afi my Phraser

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Speaker 3: and David Fani.

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Speaker 4: Mister provely to be here. And may I say, I've

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Speaker 4: really enjoyed the way you have embraced Tadeo as well,

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Speaker 4: and one of those journalists that are in high mainstream

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Speaker 4: media and just making a normal So congratulations to you,

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Speaker 4: and you make us feel good, buddy, So all the best,

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Speaker 4: all the bank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I'm looking forward to asking you about

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Speaker 3: the El Maudi version of Moana two. But first of all, Tim,

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Speaker 3: where does the story pick up for people who loved

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Speaker 3: Wana the first film.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, we were still in Motunui, and whereas the

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Speaker 4: first one.

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Speaker 3: Was, I was always saying, no one goes beyond the reef.

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Speaker 4: But things are normal and we're all fishing and eating

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Speaker 4: pretty well. And but this time, Morana's growing up a

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Speaker 4: couple of years, right, a few years years, and she's

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00:41:12,973 --> 00:41:15,293
Speaker 4: matured a little bit. And the big thing is I

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00:41:15,413 --> 00:41:18,333
Speaker 4: kind of kind of put a big responsibility on her

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Speaker 4: that she's just the chosen one in a way, and

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Speaker 4: now it's time for her to go beyond the reef

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Speaker 4: and unite the people of the Pacific, bring us together

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Speaker 4: as one. And yeah, that's where we find it, and

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Speaker 4: that's where we go.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like quite a personent, quite a personent little storyline.

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Speaker 4: Look, the narrative is just incredible. She goes off on

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Speaker 4: a journey, of course, and then some more discoveries, some

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Speaker 4: more sea monsters, some more spooky, but the drama of course,

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Speaker 4: wonderful performances from from Ole and and the rock too.

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Speaker 4: Of course, we have flavors of some more and with

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Speaker 4: tobacco of course, the Toku Lauan cultures and the language

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Speaker 4: is very much there within the music very dynamic of course,

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Speaker 4: and it's just it's great to come back, really, I really.

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Speaker 4: I have a five year old too, so I thought

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Speaker 4: about this. Yes, I'd love to be back. One day.

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Speaker 4: I can take her to the film and see it again.

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Speaker 4: And I've been a bit slack though we had to

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Speaker 4: switch theaters last night. She started running around causing heavy

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Speaker 4: I had to take it into the English one, so

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Speaker 4: she sits off a little bit. So I've got to

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Speaker 4: do my own homework at home and start teaching her

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Speaker 4: a little bit more Maldy because she started to get restless.

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00:42:43,213 --> 00:42:48,213
Speaker 4: But just wonderful and amazing. The talent now, not only

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00:42:48,213 --> 00:42:50,973
Speaker 4: in the Tadeo Maldi, but just the talent this one here,

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00:42:51,053 --> 00:42:53,333
Speaker 4: the new character playing Martgui.

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Speaker 3: The voices.

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Speaker 4: Really really matching the first one, and even going beyond

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Speaker 4: a bit. I think it might even be a little

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00:43:02,053 --> 00:43:05,613
Speaker 4: bit better. So it's got all the colors and all

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Speaker 4: the the narrative is great as there's surprises in there.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of big surprises in terms of bringing

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Speaker 4: a couple of those wonderful characters back and again it's

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Speaker 4: like walking with our ancestors at times, and some of

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00:43:20,293 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 4: those spiritual moments really come through too. So so I'm

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Speaker 4: looking forward to the reaction, especially from AUTOMADICKI that are

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00:43:27,453 --> 00:43:29,093
Speaker 4: you know, going through the core hunger, all going through

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Speaker 4: the bilingual schools, and you know they can sit proud

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Speaker 4: and feel good about about there that are being reflected

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Speaker 4: back on them to make them feel good. You know,

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Speaker 4: when I was growing up, sometimes it wasn't that most

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Speaker 4: popular thing to sort of promote our Maldi kind of things.

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Speaker 4: But our work has changed, Jack, you know, we people

861
00:43:47,413 --> 00:43:50,773
Speaker 4: are jumping on our tipting. It become a normal thing.

862
00:43:50,973 --> 00:43:54,333
Speaker 4: So it's a wonderful time. And as to me, last night,

863
00:43:54,653 --> 00:43:57,853
Speaker 4: the New Zealand premiere with tadel Mali version was really

864
00:43:57,853 --> 00:44:02,093
Speaker 4: a celebration of those talents and also for our women.

865
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:05,173
Speaker 4: You know, it was a woman company. Mart de Wir,

866
00:44:05,373 --> 00:44:08,493
Speaker 4: the Tweedy wait to take his sister and Chelsea Wins

867
00:44:08,493 --> 00:44:12,573
Speaker 4: Stanley Mia. It was the work of these woman, the

868
00:44:12,653 --> 00:44:17,053
Speaker 4: hard work that and persistence that got our Maldi version

869
00:44:17,373 --> 00:44:19,733
Speaker 4: ready in time to launch last night.

870
00:44:19,813 --> 00:44:24,133
Speaker 3: So very very proud. Yeah, you got to say somebody,

871
00:44:24,293 --> 00:44:26,933
Speaker 3: I think. Was it like in the Caller? What's it

872
00:44:26,973 --> 00:44:28,573
Speaker 3: like when you get the corner They're like, hey, yeah,

873
00:44:28,613 --> 00:44:30,293
Speaker 3: we're making one or two? You got the role?

874
00:44:30,333 --> 00:44:31,373
Speaker 4: I don't get that excited.

875
00:44:33,813 --> 00:44:34,613
Speaker 3: What time's lunch?

876
00:44:35,813 --> 00:44:39,293
Speaker 18: Well I definitely did. It was it was a surreal,

877
00:44:39,733 --> 00:44:43,813
Speaker 18: a very surreal feeling. The audition process was back in

878
00:44:43,853 --> 00:44:46,173
Speaker 18: twenty twenty two, so it's been a bit of a journey.

879
00:44:47,613 --> 00:44:49,533
Speaker 18: Been a bit of a wait to actually watch it

880
00:44:49,733 --> 00:44:53,333
Speaker 18: for the first time this week in Australia first actually,

881
00:44:53,373 --> 00:44:55,613
Speaker 18: and then of course last night in Tadelle Mardy, which

882
00:44:55,653 --> 00:45:00,413
Speaker 18: was beautiful. But I had the audition, saw that Disney

883
00:45:00,453 --> 00:45:03,733
Speaker 18: was attached to the co popper, didn't know much about

884
00:45:03,773 --> 00:45:07,653
Speaker 18: the character, certainly didn't know her name. I had some

885
00:45:07,693 --> 00:45:12,333
Speaker 18: sort of audition script about monsters, and then I waited

886
00:45:12,333 --> 00:45:15,893
Speaker 18: for about six seven months, thought no, no worries, gave

887
00:45:15,933 --> 00:45:21,973
Speaker 18: it my best, all good, no, Well, you know, it

888
00:45:22,013 --> 00:45:25,413
Speaker 18: had been a little while, and so I was I

889
00:45:25,453 --> 00:45:28,413
Speaker 18: was doing a kid show Toy Time, and driving to

890
00:45:28,493 --> 00:45:31,733
Speaker 18: the studio to do another album for that, and and

891
00:45:31,813 --> 00:45:35,373
Speaker 18: an email popped up, pulled, pulled across the road and

892
00:45:35,773 --> 00:45:41,133
Speaker 18: it was meet and greet with Disney producers. And I

893
00:45:41,173 --> 00:45:43,973
Speaker 18: wrung my husband and I said, what what do you think?

894
00:45:44,013 --> 00:45:46,173
Speaker 3: This is real? Do you know what this is?

895
00:45:46,213 --> 00:45:49,253
Speaker 18: Do you what does it mean? What does that mean?

896
00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:52,453
Speaker 18: What was a meet and greet? And so no, it

897
00:45:52,493 --> 00:45:55,893
Speaker 18: was amazing. A couple of weeks later, I chose to

898
00:45:55,933 --> 00:46:00,333
Speaker 18: take the the Zoom meet and greet and my fuddy

899
00:46:00,373 --> 00:46:03,453
Speaker 18: and my home to feel a bit a bit more settled,

900
00:46:04,533 --> 00:46:07,293
Speaker 18: and and they did. We just chatted about we chatted

901
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:12,253
Speaker 18: about this country, about what had led me to pursue

902
00:46:12,453 --> 00:46:16,973
Speaker 18: storytelling and singing and screen acting, and I got to

903
00:46:17,013 --> 00:46:19,933
Speaker 18: talk about Frozen del Mardi, which of course was my

904
00:46:20,053 --> 00:46:25,413
Speaker 18: first collaboration with Matiwa Media playing Alsa Pokik. And then

905
00:46:26,653 --> 00:46:29,533
Speaker 18: a couple of weeks after that was the call from

906
00:46:29,573 --> 00:46:32,213
Speaker 18: from my agent saying they'd like to offer you the role.

907
00:46:32,213 --> 00:46:34,533
Speaker 18: And then that was just the I just remember feeling

908
00:46:34,573 --> 00:46:38,613
Speaker 18: completely almost like numb, not in my body. I wasn't

909
00:46:38,693 --> 00:46:43,933
Speaker 18: quite sure how to process that that you get to

910
00:46:44,093 --> 00:46:49,893
Speaker 18: join not only the Disney faro, but but to to

911
00:46:50,053 --> 00:46:53,533
Speaker 18: join a movie that I loved just as UFI my

912
00:46:54,093 --> 00:46:57,373
Speaker 18: The first Mona moved me and and I cried and

913
00:46:57,453 --> 00:47:01,653
Speaker 18: I loved the music. So yeah, it was it was

914
00:47:01,693 --> 00:47:04,333
Speaker 18: a pretty surreal. And it's still really surreal, you know,

915
00:47:05,173 --> 00:47:09,533
Speaker 18: that that we get to join the unbelievable Poe of

916
00:47:09,613 --> 00:47:14,253
Speaker 18: our industry and and to to come on board this

917
00:47:17,173 --> 00:47:21,173
Speaker 18: beautiful Poe of you know, right and and of course him,

918
00:47:22,413 --> 00:47:24,573
Speaker 18: and it's just been it's just been a dream. What

919
00:47:24,613 --> 00:47:28,133
Speaker 18: about you joining this this Disney fan though it.

920
00:47:28,733 --> 00:47:32,493
Speaker 14: Didn't really bother me, you know, like I didn't want

921
00:47:32,853 --> 00:47:35,333
Speaker 14: at all. Like originally it was going to be a

922
00:47:35,373 --> 00:47:38,573
Speaker 14: TV series and so you know, I've done TV series

923
00:47:38,573 --> 00:47:44,813
Speaker 14: animation before, so there I was doing that. And then

924
00:47:45,133 --> 00:47:47,373
Speaker 14: and then they up the game and so it was

925
00:47:47,413 --> 00:47:50,093
Speaker 14: a movie and I found myself, you know, you know,

926
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:53,933
Speaker 14: a bit weakened the nether region and a bit squirty

927
00:47:54,013 --> 00:47:57,173
Speaker 14: down there, and you know, meant I had to work

928
00:47:57,453 --> 00:48:05,613
Speaker 14: and do something, and then you know, that's when stuff

929
00:48:05,653 --> 00:48:10,733
Speaker 14: got real. Yeah, and it was really funny just knowing

930
00:48:10,773 --> 00:48:14,253
Speaker 14: that you were honoring something that had been done before

931
00:48:14,333 --> 00:48:17,773
Speaker 14: but you were being charged with taking it further again.

932
00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:23,253
Speaker 14: And that's that was the exciting part, is that you,

933
00:48:23,613 --> 00:48:26,413
Speaker 14: out of all people, you know, all of us, are

934
00:48:26,453 --> 00:48:31,093
Speaker 14: chosen to go forward again and to say yeah, I'll

935
00:48:31,173 --> 00:48:35,453
Speaker 14: accept and go forward. You know, it was quite humbling,

936
00:48:35,693 --> 00:48:36,133
Speaker 14: do you.

937
00:48:36,093 --> 00:48:39,933
Speaker 3: Think yea, it occurs to me that you have dedicated

938
00:48:39,973 --> 00:48:44,173
Speaker 3: your creative life to promoting Pacific stories. And when you

939
00:48:44,253 --> 00:48:47,693
Speaker 3: think about the impact of Pacific stories in a global sense,

940
00:48:48,173 --> 00:48:51,373
Speaker 3: it's hard in recent times to go past the size

941
00:48:51,413 --> 00:48:54,493
Speaker 3: and scale of Moana. Can you can you quantify the

942
00:48:54,533 --> 00:48:58,653
Speaker 3: impact that Moana has had for Pacific peoples and Pacific

943
00:48:58,733 --> 00:49:01,213
Speaker 3: stories in a global context.

944
00:49:00,893 --> 00:49:03,173
Speaker 14: With a global context? Is this is that it's the

945
00:49:03,213 --> 00:49:07,453
Speaker 14: way of thinking in the Pacific round here we we

946
00:49:07,733 --> 00:49:11,493
Speaker 14: understand the concept of you know, the ancestors come with us.

947
00:49:11,973 --> 00:49:17,933
Speaker 14: That's pardon parcel. It's a spirituality and h and yet

948
00:49:18,493 --> 00:49:21,813
Speaker 14: you know in the Northern hemisphere, you know, there's a

949
00:49:21,853 --> 00:49:28,333
Speaker 14: certain disconnect between land sea and people. They there's the

950
00:49:28,333 --> 00:49:31,613
Speaker 14: there's a separation with them and even in their storytelling

951
00:49:31,653 --> 00:49:36,053
Speaker 14: there's a separation. And here, well, I love is in

952
00:49:36,093 --> 00:49:40,253
Speaker 14: the Pacific, we we always strive to include in the

953
00:49:40,413 --> 00:49:43,733
Speaker 14: entirety of the area that we're in and to show

954
00:49:44,013 --> 00:49:47,213
Speaker 14: that the entirety and the way that we think there

955
00:49:47,293 --> 00:49:51,133
Speaker 14: is actually a valid and and and in a beautiful

956
00:49:51,173 --> 00:49:58,413
Speaker 14: way of thinking, like the MARII look look and you

957
00:49:58,453 --> 00:50:03,373
Speaker 14: said it before we went on here about the normalizing

958
00:50:04,213 --> 00:50:06,933
Speaker 14: this that it's not such a foreign cont scept and

959
00:50:07,013 --> 00:50:09,453
Speaker 14: Disney's on board with that because they released them at

960
00:50:09,453 --> 00:50:11,853
Speaker 14: the same time. It's like, it's just just as what

961
00:50:11,893 --> 00:50:16,053
Speaker 14: it is. And how wonderful is that where just as

962
00:50:16,773 --> 00:50:19,773
Speaker 14: so we can breathe, we just are And that's how

963
00:50:19,853 --> 00:50:23,413
Speaker 14: stories they just are. They're given and we as a

964
00:50:23,493 --> 00:50:28,533
Speaker 14: specific a story tell us and Marty's storytellers. It's it's

965
00:50:28,573 --> 00:50:30,933
Speaker 14: something you hold in your hand and you give to

966
00:50:30,973 --> 00:50:33,173
Speaker 14: people and you go, yep, you hold that for a

967
00:50:33,253 --> 00:50:35,533
Speaker 14: while and we'll go find something else we can play with,

968
00:50:35,653 --> 00:50:39,733
Speaker 14: you know. And it's beautiful. And Tim there's been such

969
00:50:40,053 --> 00:50:44,613
Speaker 14: a leader and well we've been laughing about him playing

970
00:50:45,173 --> 00:50:49,333
Speaker 14: chief too, but the fact is there can be no

971
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:55,213
Speaker 14: you know, he's held so much before and and there

972
00:50:55,493 --> 00:50:57,213
Speaker 14: there was no one to help him. There was no

973
00:50:57,253 --> 00:50:59,893
Speaker 14: one there with him. And it's nice to be able

974
00:50:59,933 --> 00:51:04,533
Speaker 14: to stand next to him and and and hold hold hands,

975
00:51:05,573 --> 00:51:09,093
Speaker 14: hold hands with them, say yeah, we're here. The rest

976
00:51:09,133 --> 00:51:09,933
Speaker 14: of us were caught up.

977
00:51:09,933 --> 00:51:12,773
Speaker 4: And I think last night too, I just showed the

978
00:51:12,853 --> 00:51:17,373
Speaker 4: amount of talent there and even in the Jaden Randall

979
00:51:17,893 --> 00:51:20,373
Speaker 4: came number two in the Voice in Australia and like

980
00:51:20,413 --> 00:51:25,293
Speaker 4: we did the Australian media, you know, and the culture

981
00:51:25,373 --> 00:51:28,933
Speaker 4: of the Pacific seems to transcend right right, not only

982
00:51:28,973 --> 00:51:31,893
Speaker 4: in Australia but all around the world. You know, it's

983
00:51:31,973 --> 00:51:34,573
Speaker 4: mum and dad really and a kid, you know, and

984
00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:36,773
Speaker 4: and the kids at home. So no matter where you

985
00:51:36,853 --> 00:51:39,613
Speaker 4: are in the world, Mum and daid okay, kids one

986
00:51:39,733 --> 00:51:42,733
Speaker 4: or twos aren't and freeze them up for that hundred minutes.

987
00:51:42,933 --> 00:51:45,093
Speaker 4: But they're always in the background listening, you know. They're

988
00:51:45,093 --> 00:51:46,133
Speaker 4: taking it in a in.

989
00:51:46,093 --> 00:51:47,333
Speaker 3: A peripheral way, I guess.

990
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:49,333
Speaker 9: So it's just it.

991
00:51:49,373 --> 00:51:53,053
Speaker 4: Was very dynamic last night. And again when you hear

992
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:58,733
Speaker 4: this one sing, she's now like our Polynesian Beyonce. Give

993
00:51:58,813 --> 00:52:05,093
Speaker 4: us a little stands up Saturday morning.

994
00:52:05,253 --> 00:52:08,973
Speaker 18: You got to injure the itgerously.

995
00:52:12,413 --> 00:52:19,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, when the meet and great with the Didney producers,

996
00:52:19,933 --> 00:52:22,613
Speaker 3: I can see.

997
00:52:21,613 --> 00:52:23,893
Speaker 4: Even I make the singing cut in the village.

998
00:52:24,333 --> 00:52:26,053
Speaker 3: Yes, So don't be late to.

999
00:52:26,013 --> 00:52:30,373
Speaker 4: The movie because my song it happens in the first

1000
00:52:30,413 --> 00:52:31,293
Speaker 4: minute in the movie.

1001
00:52:31,933 --> 00:52:33,893
Speaker 14: Get there early and then you can leave.

1002
00:52:37,493 --> 00:52:39,253
Speaker 4: It was just great because I was a little bit

1003
00:52:39,653 --> 00:52:43,213
Speaker 4: in the first one while I must say that maybe

1004
00:52:43,253 --> 00:52:46,133
Speaker 4: the note was a little high for me, so I

1005
00:52:46,173 --> 00:52:48,413
Speaker 4: got a little bit upset when the movie came out

1006
00:52:48,413 --> 00:52:50,453
Speaker 4: and no one told me they'd replaced my voice. But

1007
00:52:50,653 --> 00:52:53,573
Speaker 4: with the second one they used me, so I'm.

1008
00:52:53,493 --> 00:52:56,733
Speaker 3: Very very Yes, they put it in the right key

1009
00:52:56,773 --> 00:52:57,613
Speaker 3: for you. I made the cut.

1010
00:52:57,733 --> 00:53:00,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could hit the note too, so that was good.

1011
00:53:00,133 --> 00:53:05,573
Speaker 3: But the little training a little bit, Yeah, it was great.

1012
00:53:05,613 --> 00:53:06,053
Speaker 4: It was great.

1013
00:53:06,173 --> 00:53:10,213
Speaker 3: Well, congratulations to all of them, and thank you because

1014
00:53:10,213 --> 00:53:12,373
Speaker 3: there is such a gift not only to Disney fans,

1015
00:53:12,413 --> 00:53:15,973
Speaker 3: but like especially all of those those good kids around

1016
00:53:16,373 --> 00:53:18,853
Speaker 3: the country who you know, seeing a movie like this

1017
00:53:19,013 --> 00:53:21,613
Speaker 3: in real Maudi as well. It's just this has a

1018
00:53:21,613 --> 00:53:22,373
Speaker 3: profound impact.

1019
00:53:22,493 --> 00:53:24,493
Speaker 18: I think the beautiful thing about it is if they

1020
00:53:24,533 --> 00:53:27,293
Speaker 18: would like to just watch it in our real yeah,

1021
00:53:27,373 --> 00:53:29,333
Speaker 18: then that's an option for them. And you know, that's

1022
00:53:29,373 --> 00:53:32,253
Speaker 18: that's what our final at Multiwa Media have been striving for.

1023
00:53:33,093 --> 00:53:35,573
Speaker 18: It's just for Automatiki to have the option.

1024
00:53:35,933 --> 00:53:37,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where We're lucky to having those people

1025
00:53:38,053 --> 00:53:41,093
Speaker 4: like in those productions that have the capability whereas you know,

1026
00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:43,013
Speaker 4: be great to see it in someone, be great to

1027
00:53:43,013 --> 00:53:45,213
Speaker 4: see it in the Hawaiian language, you know, for all

1028
00:53:45,253 --> 00:53:47,293
Speaker 4: those people. But that's where we're lucky here down in

1029
00:53:47,293 --> 00:53:50,013
Speaker 4: New Zealand. We have a number of trained people in

1030
00:53:50,053 --> 00:53:52,693
Speaker 4: those areas that you know, they can make this possible.

1031
00:53:52,893 --> 00:53:57,573
Speaker 14: We were trailblazers New Zealand, you know, and all together

1032
00:53:57,653 --> 00:54:02,053
Speaker 14: we are we are going beyond the reef because what

1033
00:54:02,173 --> 00:54:05,173
Speaker 14: else is there is you have to go. You have

1034
00:54:05,253 --> 00:54:07,133
Speaker 14: to have a look. You've got to try your hand

1035
00:54:07,773 --> 00:54:08,213
Speaker 14: ver enough.

1036
00:54:08,413 --> 00:54:11,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, that's a beautiful thank you so much,

1037
00:54:11,453 --> 00:54:15,653
Speaker 3: good much. Yes, that's so good. Timoid and Morrison Affi,

1038
00:54:15,733 --> 00:54:19,613
Speaker 3: my Phraser, David Fanner. The three are stars of Moana two,

1039
00:54:19,693 --> 00:54:22,693
Speaker 3: and of course Moana two and Moana two Real Maudi

1040
00:54:22,973 --> 00:54:26,413
Speaker 3: are both in cinemas now. It's twenty two past ten

1041
00:54:26,733 --> 00:54:29,373
Speaker 3: Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tame. This is News Talk's EDB.

1042
00:54:30,213 --> 00:54:33,653
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

1043
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1045
00:54:39,413 --> 00:54:41,373
Speaker 3: So you might have heard that terrible news. There is

1046
00:54:41,693 --> 00:54:44,813
Speaker 3: currently a hooping cough epidemic in New Zealand. That's what

1047
00:54:44,853 --> 00:54:48,293
Speaker 3: the public health experts have declared. So before eleven o'clock

1048
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:49,773
Speaker 3: this morning, we had to catch up with our doctor,

1049
00:54:49,773 --> 00:54:53,773
Speaker 3: doctor Brian Betty, get his thoughts on hooping cough and

1050
00:54:53,813 --> 00:54:57,253
Speaker 3: obviously his advice on how best to avoid it. Obviously

1051
00:54:57,533 --> 00:54:59,853
Speaker 3: a big concern for anyone who has small children in

1052
00:54:59,893 --> 00:55:02,253
Speaker 3: particular in their lives, so I went to double check

1053
00:55:02,293 --> 00:55:04,573
Speaker 3: this week. Fortunately, I had my hooping cough JAB a

1054
00:55:04,613 --> 00:55:07,573
Speaker 3: couple of years ago when I had my lead gouged

1055
00:55:07,613 --> 00:55:10,813
Speaker 3: open in a football game. One of the upsides that experience,

1056
00:55:10,893 --> 00:55:13,333
Speaker 3: one of a few upsides to that experience was I

1057
00:55:13,333 --> 00:55:15,333
Speaker 3: got a technicis JAB which happened to include by hooping

1058
00:55:15,373 --> 00:55:18,653
Speaker 3: GOFF vaccination as well. But anyway, doctor Brian Betty's going

1059
00:55:18,653 --> 00:55:20,533
Speaker 3: to be joining us before eleven o'clock. Right now, it's

1060
00:55:20,573 --> 00:55:23,493
Speaker 3: twenty five past ten and on your Saturday mornings, that

1061
00:55:23,573 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 3: means it's screen time time. Taraward is here with her

1062
00:55:27,053 --> 00:55:31,093
Speaker 3: three picks for us this week. Gilda Tara Giuda, good morning. Okay,

1063
00:55:31,293 --> 00:55:34,493
Speaker 3: let's begin wre the show streaming on TVNZ Plus from

1064
00:55:34,533 --> 00:55:36,253
Speaker 3: tomorrow tell us about Ludwig.

1065
00:55:37,093 --> 00:55:37,333
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1066
00:55:37,333 --> 00:55:41,493
Speaker 12: This is a delightful new British crime drama that starts tomorrow.

1067
00:55:41,573 --> 00:55:45,053
Speaker 12: It stars British comedian David Mitchell who plays a guy

1068
00:55:45,133 --> 00:55:50,293
Speaker 12: called John Taylor. And John is an introverted genius puzzle setter,

1069
00:55:50,533 --> 00:55:53,373
Speaker 12: so his job is to create the crosswords and the

1070
00:55:53,373 --> 00:55:56,493
Speaker 12: puzzles that people do each day in the newspaper. And

1071
00:55:56,613 --> 00:55:59,213
Speaker 12: he's contacted by his sister in law who is worried

1072
00:55:59,253 --> 00:56:02,613
Speaker 12: about John's identical twin brother, James. And James is a

1073
00:56:02,613 --> 00:56:06,293
Speaker 12: detective who has disappeared on a job and John is

1074
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Speaker 12: persuaded against his better judgment to impersonate his brother to

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00:56:10,333 --> 00:56:13,093
Speaker 12: infiltrate the police system and to work out where his

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00:56:13,173 --> 00:56:16,373
Speaker 12: brother is and what's going on. He gets caught up

1077
00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:19,133
Speaker 12: in the case and because his natural talent is puzzle

1078
00:56:19,173 --> 00:56:22,173
Speaker 12: solving and logic, he starts putting all the pieces together

1079
00:56:23,133 --> 00:56:25,053
Speaker 12: on the case that his brother is working on and

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00:56:25,093 --> 00:56:27,093
Speaker 12: begins to solve it. And I mean, it sounds a

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00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:28,893
Speaker 12: bit far fetched, but it is a lot of fun.

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00:56:28,933 --> 00:56:31,333
Speaker 12: It's the perfect kind of show to watch on a

1083
00:56:31,373 --> 00:56:34,853
Speaker 12: Sunday night. It's light and cozy and it's a funny

1084
00:56:34,853 --> 00:56:38,773
Speaker 12: show which you don't get very often with a detective series.

1085
00:56:39,453 --> 00:56:41,413
Speaker 12: And the humor is because John is such a fish

1086
00:56:41,453 --> 00:56:43,853
Speaker 12: out of water. He would rather be at home doing

1087
00:56:43,893 --> 00:56:46,893
Speaker 12: puzzles than being out in the real world with all

1088
00:56:46,933 --> 00:56:51,533
Speaker 12: its noise and annoying people. You know, he's quite an awkward,

1089
00:56:51,573 --> 00:56:54,053
Speaker 12: grumpy guy. And if you've seen David Mitchell on any

1090
00:56:54,053 --> 00:56:57,053
Speaker 12: sort of British comedy panel show, this feels very much

1091
00:56:57,133 --> 00:56:58,613
Speaker 12: like that he was born for.

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00:56:59,133 --> 00:56:59,613
Speaker 19: This is great.

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00:56:59,653 --> 00:57:00,613
Speaker 12: I really enjoyed this one.

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00:57:00,693 --> 00:57:04,293
Speaker 3: Okay, great. I love David Mitchell. He's so witty.

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Speaker 6: I just.

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Speaker 7: Quick.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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00:57:07,333 --> 00:57:09,413
Speaker 3: I mean it's like a sense of humor that only

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00:57:09,453 --> 00:57:11,693
Speaker 3: a brick could have, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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00:57:11,933 --> 00:57:15,773
Speaker 3: or maybe an Irish person. Yeah, but anyway, So that's Ludwig.

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00:57:15,813 --> 00:57:19,773
Speaker 3: That's on TVNZ Plus from tomorrow on three Now. ReBs.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, another detective show. This one is quite different in tone.

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00:57:23,613 --> 00:57:26,773
Speaker 12: This is ReBs. It's a Scottish detective series made by

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00:57:26,773 --> 00:57:30,213
Speaker 12: the BBC, set in Edinburgh and of course based on

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00:57:30,253 --> 00:57:33,453
Speaker 12: the Inspector Rivers books by Ian Rankin, and it's about

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00:57:33,453 --> 00:57:36,613
Speaker 12: a detective named John Reabs who's played by Richard Rankin

1107
00:57:36,693 --> 00:57:39,893
Speaker 12: from Outlander, and he does a fantastic job here in

1108
00:57:39,933 --> 00:57:45,773
Speaker 12: bringing this troubled, conflicted detective to life. Reabs is an

1109
00:57:45,853 --> 00:57:48,413
Speaker 12: anti hero. You know, he's a bit dodgy, he likes

1110
00:57:48,453 --> 00:57:50,893
Speaker 12: his booze. He's not a great dad. He's the type

1111
00:57:50,893 --> 00:57:53,533
Speaker 12: of guy who wants to do the right thing but

1112
00:57:53,613 --> 00:57:55,853
Speaker 12: doesn't always know how to do it. And the case

1113
00:57:55,893 --> 00:57:59,013
Speaker 12: that he's working on involves a local gangster and it

1114
00:57:59,053 --> 00:58:04,293
Speaker 12: becomes personal when Rebs's older brother becomes caught up in it.

1115
00:58:04,293 --> 00:58:07,053
Speaker 12: It's quite a dark and gritty crime drama. You know,

1116
00:58:07,053 --> 00:58:10,573
Speaker 12: there's some violence in this, there's not much joy. Set

1117
00:58:10,613 --> 00:58:13,133
Speaker 12: in the towel blocks and the tougher parts of town.

1118
00:58:13,893 --> 00:58:17,093
Speaker 12: It's about Rebus's life as a dad and an alcoholic

1119
00:58:17,133 --> 00:58:20,453
Speaker 12: as much as it is about him solving crimes. And

1120
00:58:20,493 --> 00:58:23,133
Speaker 12: if you've read the books, this is Rebus as a younger,

1121
00:58:23,253 --> 00:58:25,813
Speaker 12: quite contemporary character. You know, they've made TV shows about

1122
00:58:25,853 --> 00:58:27,813
Speaker 12: Reabs before, but this is kind of a fresh take

1123
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Speaker 12: on him. It's well made as well active. It feels

1124
00:58:31,573 --> 00:58:34,013
Speaker 12: a bit old fashioned and not in a bad way,

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Speaker 12: but just that. It's a really solid crime drama with

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00:58:37,253 --> 00:58:40,493
Speaker 12: some grit and toughness to it, maybe a bit like

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00:58:40,573 --> 00:58:44,013
Speaker 12: shows like Taggett and Cracker. There's a realness to this

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Speaker 12: that I think people.

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Speaker 14: Will really like.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, Okay, there, this sounds really good. Rebus is on

1131
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Speaker 3: three now and on Disney Plus. Beatles sixty four.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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00:58:52,533 --> 00:58:55,373
Speaker 12: This is the latest in a long line of music

1134
00:58:55,413 --> 00:58:58,733
Speaker 12: documentaries that have taken original footage of the Beatles and

1135
00:58:59,333 --> 00:59:02,653
Speaker 12: remastered it and repackaged it for viewers today. And this

1136
00:59:02,693 --> 00:59:05,933
Speaker 12: documentary is produced by Martin Scorsese, and it's about what

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00:59:06,013 --> 00:59:08,733
Speaker 12: happened when the Beatles went to America for the first

1138
00:59:08,733 --> 00:59:10,413
Speaker 12: time in nineteen sixty four.

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00:59:10,893 --> 00:59:12,533
Speaker 3: They were there for two weeks.

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Speaker 12: Seventy million people watched them perform on The Ed Sullivan Show.

1141
00:59:16,693 --> 00:59:21,013
Speaker 12: And the doco catches the hysteria, the beetle mania that

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00:59:21,093 --> 00:59:25,133
Speaker 12: happened and the way the Beatles helped to lift America

1143
00:59:25,133 --> 00:59:28,373
Speaker 12: out of the grief of Kennedy's assassination and kick started

1144
00:59:28,453 --> 00:59:31,973
Speaker 12: this new era of pop culture. And there's some amazing

1145
00:59:32,053 --> 00:59:36,173
Speaker 12: behind the scenes archival footage of the band here, of

1146
00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:38,773
Speaker 12: all the fans, you know, people sneaking into the hotels.

1147
00:59:39,253 --> 00:59:41,293
Speaker 12: It very much takes you back to that time and place,

1148
00:59:41,333 --> 00:59:44,293
Speaker 12: and it also interviews people who were there at the

1149
00:59:44,333 --> 00:59:46,933
Speaker 12: time who look back on what that moment with the Beatles,

1150
00:59:46,933 --> 00:59:49,893
Speaker 12: meant with them, meant to them, and how the Beatles

1151
00:59:49,893 --> 00:59:53,613
Speaker 12: influenced their lives, which is really lovely. And watching this

1152
00:59:53,733 --> 00:59:57,573
Speaker 12: remind me, you know, today when musicians come and perform,

1153
00:59:57,653 --> 01:00:00,613
Speaker 12: they have these huge stages and screens and all sorts

1154
01:00:00,653 --> 01:00:03,413
Speaker 12: of bells and whistles. But the Beatles in nineteen sixty

1155
01:00:03,413 --> 01:00:05,973
Speaker 12: four were just four guys on a stage. That was

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01:00:06,013 --> 01:00:07,493
Speaker 12: it and it was electric.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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01:00:07,813 --> 01:00:09,773
Speaker 14: They changed the world, and so this.

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01:00:09,813 --> 01:00:12,893
Speaker 12: Documentary really catches the sense of that they were in

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01:00:12,933 --> 01:00:15,493
Speaker 12: the eye of this incredible storm. And I think if

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Speaker 12: you were of this era particularly, you're really enjoyed this.

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01:00:18,573 --> 01:00:20,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that sounds wonderful. I think there'll be a

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01:00:20,653 --> 01:00:22,893
Speaker 3: lot of fans for that one. That's Beadles sixty four.

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01:00:22,933 --> 01:00:26,533
Speaker 3: It's on Disney Plus. Atara. I took your advice and

1165
01:00:26,773 --> 01:00:29,213
Speaker 3: it was my turn in our household to choose what

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01:00:29,253 --> 01:00:32,213
Speaker 3: we were watching this week, So we watched Say Nothing,

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01:00:32,373 --> 01:00:34,493
Speaker 3: which we actually recommended to us last week. So I

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01:00:34,533 --> 01:00:37,453
Speaker 3: had read the book. Say Nothing is, of course, the

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01:00:37,453 --> 01:00:41,093
Speaker 3: the Disney series that follows a book basically about some

1170
01:00:41,133 --> 01:00:44,973
Speaker 3: personal relationships during the troubles. It's based on a true story,

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01:00:45,773 --> 01:00:47,813
Speaker 3: so we watched it this week. It was so good.

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01:00:48,493 --> 01:00:50,213
Speaker 3: But you know what, it was one of those shows

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01:00:50,213 --> 01:00:51,853
Speaker 3: we would watch it in the evening and then I

1174
01:00:52,013 --> 01:00:53,853
Speaker 3: go to bed and I would just wake up in

1175
01:00:53,853 --> 01:00:55,213
Speaker 3: the middle of the night and I'd still be thinking

1176
01:00:55,213 --> 01:00:58,333
Speaker 3: about it and I knew what happened, you know. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to total all your recommendations from last week.

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01:01:01,533 --> 01:01:03,733
Speaker 3: Say nothing on Disney Plus is superb.

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01:01:04,333 --> 01:01:05,013
Speaker 4: I'm so glad.

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01:01:05,173 --> 01:01:08,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much those shows once again. Ludwig

1181
01:01:08,173 --> 01:01:10,853
Speaker 3: is on TVNZ plus, Rebus is on three Now, Beatles

1182
01:01:10,853 --> 01:01:13,453
Speaker 3: sixty four is on Disney Plus. Thank you for your messages, Jack,

1183
01:01:13,773 --> 01:01:16,893
Speaker 3: Tim Wader Morrison is an absolute national treasure. Jack absolutely

1184
01:01:16,893 --> 01:01:20,133
Speaker 3: loved your conversation with the one or two stars. Tim

1185
01:01:20,213 --> 01:01:22,293
Speaker 3: is a crack up, isn't he. He's wonderful a such

1186
01:01:22,293 --> 01:01:24,813
Speaker 3: a character. Twenty nine to eleven on News Talks.

1187
01:01:24,613 --> 01:01:32,213
Speaker 1: dB, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

1188
01:01:32,293 --> 01:01:34,173
Speaker 1: Team on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: This is coole A. This is Asia. Asia is a

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Speaker 3: key we artist who's been making some incredible moves over

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years. She's just released her debut album,

1192
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Speaker 3: This is Her Voice. This is Crankly beats. She's been

1193
01:02:08,453 --> 01:02:10,453
Speaker 3: producing this album for a week while now it's for

1194
01:02:10,533 --> 01:02:12,973
Speaker 3: seven years in the making and this is the title track,

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01:02:13,013 --> 01:02:15,213
Speaker 3: which actually came back in twenty twenty. I came out

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. It's called car Why. Anyway, she took

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Speaker 3: home the my Aorha Silver Scroll Award for the Waiata

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Speaker 3: to Ehu and has since tourred with lab. She's headlined

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Speaker 3: the Newtown Festive all performed Cube Doupa. She's Wellington based

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Speaker 3: as an established force, so anyway, she's just released her

1201
01:02:32,653 --> 01:02:36,013
Speaker 3: Lai's album or her first album, her debuted car Why.

1202
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Speaker 3: We're going to have our first real curated taste of

1203
01:02:39,573 --> 01:02:43,053
Speaker 3: Asia's sound this morning and we'll make sure we cover

1204
01:02:43,093 --> 01:02:44,613
Speaker 3: a little bit of time so we can play some

1205
01:02:44,653 --> 01:02:47,173
Speaker 3: of that before midday. Our music reviewer Estelle is going

1206
01:02:47,213 --> 01:02:49,053
Speaker 3: to be in before twelve o'clock with her thoughts on

1207
01:02:49,093 --> 01:02:51,693
Speaker 3: that as well before eleven Route climb passes in the

1208
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Speaker 3: Garden Ah with advice I can definitely use on how

1209
01:02:54,773 --> 01:02:57,493
Speaker 3: to get rid of mealybugs at your place. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's twenty five to two.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

1212
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Speaker 15: So the government did release the COVID report despite a

1213
01:03:06,453 --> 01:03:08,133
Speaker 15: number of indications they were not going to sole that

1214
01:03:08,173 --> 01:03:11,013
Speaker 15: make a job of difference next time round. Former Treasury Secretary,

1215
01:03:11,093 --> 01:03:13,853
Speaker 15: National Health Board Member in New Zealand Initiative senior fellow

1216
01:03:13,853 --> 01:03:15,933
Speaker 15: these days, Doctor Murray horns with us if this was it,

1217
01:03:16,093 --> 01:03:18,093
Speaker 15: in other words, we weren't doing phase two. Is it

1218
01:03:18,133 --> 01:03:19,013
Speaker 15: comprehensive enough?

1219
01:03:19,093 --> 01:03:21,333
Speaker 7: I don't think so. My view of it is quite

1220
01:03:21,333 --> 01:03:23,973
Speaker 7: a generous assessment of what went on, and I think

1221
01:03:24,013 --> 01:03:26,853
Speaker 7: it misses a couple of really big points. The first

1222
01:03:26,853 --> 01:03:29,373
Speaker 7: point I would make is that it doesn't really pick

1223
01:03:29,453 --> 01:03:32,733
Speaker 7: up the fact that the damaged done to the economy

1224
01:03:32,773 --> 01:03:35,093
Speaker 7: and took people's trust in government and so on and

1225
01:03:35,133 --> 01:03:37,413
Speaker 7: so on was more serious than it needed to be.

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Speaker 15: Back Monday, from six am, the mic asking Breakfast with

1227
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Speaker 15: the Range Drover the last news talk z B.

1228
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Speaker 3: Well, Australia has passed its big law. This is the

1229
01:03:47,613 --> 01:03:51,573
Speaker 3: social media ban. So effectively, sixteen year olds in Australia

1230
01:03:51,853 --> 01:03:54,773
Speaker 3: or people under the age of sixteen in Australia will

1231
01:03:54,813 --> 01:03:57,133
Speaker 3: not be allowed to use social media. They're going to

1232
01:03:57,133 --> 01:04:03,213
Speaker 3: have various verification processes, but the burden or the onus

1233
01:04:03,373 --> 01:04:08,213
Speaker 3: to verify social media uses ages, all gets put on

1234
01:04:08,293 --> 01:04:11,973
Speaker 3: the social media companies themselves. Our textbit Pulstine houses here

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01:04:11,973 --> 01:04:13,933
Speaker 3: with the details. Caulder, Paul, This is pretty big.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, And I truly don't know how they're going to

1237
01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:19,293
Speaker 20: do this, Jack, in all seriousness, I don't know what

1238
01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,213
Speaker 20: the solution is going to be, especially when the government

1239
01:04:22,253 --> 01:04:25,133
Speaker 20: has said they cannot use any government ID, so they

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01:04:25,173 --> 01:04:28,653
Speaker 20: can't use a passport, they can't use a birth certificate

1241
01:04:28,733 --> 01:04:32,413
Speaker 20: due to privacy concerns, And I was actually racking my

1242
01:04:32,493 --> 01:04:34,893
Speaker 20: brain this morning trying to think of how they could

1243
01:04:34,933 --> 01:04:37,693
Speaker 20: do this, and the only other form of verification I

1244
01:04:37,733 --> 01:04:40,413
Speaker 20: could think was a credit card. Yeah, and a credit

1245
01:04:40,413 --> 01:04:44,013
Speaker 20: card is typically issued to people over the age of eighteen,

1246
01:04:44,093 --> 01:04:47,853
Speaker 20: but that's not sixteen. No, obviously that also creates quite

1247
01:04:47,893 --> 01:04:50,093
Speaker 20: a barrier, right, Oh, you've got to have a credit card. Well,

1248
01:04:50,173 --> 01:04:51,933
Speaker 20: then you've got to have a credit score, you've got

1249
01:04:51,933 --> 01:04:54,333
Speaker 20: to like have maintained good credit, or you've got to

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Speaker 20: apply or whatever it is. I truly don't understand what

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Speaker 20: they're going.

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Speaker 10: To do here.

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01:04:57,893 --> 01:05:00,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, And look, I've worked in digital products for quite

1255
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:06,933
Speaker 20: some time and I'm seriously I'm racking my to think

1256
01:05:06,973 --> 01:05:11,693
Speaker 20: what they're going to do unless they get together. The

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01:05:11,733 --> 01:05:13,653
Speaker 20: government said they don't want to do any sort of

1258
01:05:13,773 --> 01:05:17,093
Speaker 20: kind of you know, like sixteen plus ID. So un

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Speaker 20: least the social media companies get together and create like

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01:05:21,053 --> 01:05:24,493
Speaker 20: a consortium and they create their own kind of like

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01:05:25,053 --> 01:05:27,933
Speaker 20: sixteen plus ID. Honestly, I'm trying to think of what

1262
01:05:27,933 --> 01:05:30,333
Speaker 20: the companies would do. Like if I was working at

1263
01:05:30,333 --> 01:05:33,013
Speaker 20: somewhere like Meta and was given this problem, I don't

1264
01:05:33,013 --> 01:05:33,933
Speaker 20: know how I'd solve it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be amazing. I mean, the burden

1266
01:05:38,773 --> 01:05:40,973
Speaker 3: riders shifted on to the social media companies, so they

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Speaker 3: get for the find.

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Speaker 20: But hey, but remember the burden is there already today

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Speaker 20: because you have to be over thirteen in their terms

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Speaker 20: and conditions.

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01:05:47,013 --> 01:05:49,493
Speaker 3: You have to conditions. But they don't get punished, right

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Speaker 3: so if someone if someone breaks it, they don't get fined.

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Speaker 20: No, but they do. I mean, they do the only

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Speaker 20: thing you can do, which is put out, hey, what's

1275
01:05:57,573 --> 01:05:58,333
Speaker 20: your birthday?

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Speaker 3: Like I I mean no, I've had stuff though where

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Speaker 3: I've had to send photo ID before.

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Speaker 8: You know, a lot of use.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what makes it tricky to me. Yeah,

1280
01:06:10,973 --> 01:06:12,133
Speaker 3: it's been a rock and a hard place.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, this is a really good example of a law

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Speaker 20: of it. It sounds great, don't get me wrong. Do

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Speaker 20: we need to do something about kids and social media, absolutely,

1284
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Speaker 20: but this.

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Speaker 3: You're not convinced by this one? Interesting?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well look, well the proof of the puddings in

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Speaker 3: the eating. We'll see how it all goes.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Interestingly, while lots of companies are trying to put

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Speaker 3: satellites in space to increase internet access spaces, of course,

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01:06:34,053 --> 01:06:37,133
Speaker 3: being top of the list, Meta is building a ten

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Speaker 3: billion dollar undersea cable that spans the entire globe.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Well, when your company is ten percent of all land

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Speaker 20: based internet traffic and twenty two percent of all mobile

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Speaker 20: internet traffic on the planet, you know that pipes are important,

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Speaker 20: and that's why they are laying a forty thousand kilometer cable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the report.

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Speaker 20: So they haven't confirmed this yet, but all reports suggest

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Speaker 20: that this is what they're going to do. It's going

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Speaker 20: to take them around ten years to complete, and it's

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Speaker 20: it's a fascinating pattern. It's called the w It goes

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Speaker 20: from the East coast in the US down to South Africa,

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Speaker 20: up to India down to Australia. They're going to use

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01:07:17,253 --> 01:07:19,773
Speaker 20: Darwin at the top of Australia there and then over

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Speaker 20: to the west coast of the US. So it forms

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Speaker 20: that kind of double U shape the world and the

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01:07:24,933 --> 01:07:31,093
Speaker 20: purposely avoiding areas that they're saying geopill have geopolitical tension,

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Speaker 20: such as the such as the Red Sea and the

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Speaker 20: South China. See because one of the things that some

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Speaker 20: of these you know groups are doing to disrupt things

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Speaker 20: is they're disrupting the undersea cables and of course repairing

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Speaker 20: trying to repair those is a bit of a nightmare.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, they're trying to take these routes that they

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Speaker 20: think are going to be the safest. It's interesting though,

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01:07:50,573 --> 01:07:52,573
Speaker 20: right because if you own the pipe, you can control

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Speaker 20: what you do with the plank, and so it's in

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Speaker 20: some ways it could be a win for Meta customers

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01:07:57,613 --> 01:08:01,253
Speaker 20: because it's the WhatsApps, the facebooks, the Instagrams of the world,

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01:08:01,693 --> 01:08:05,413
Speaker 20: because they get to prioritize their own traffic. And interestingly,

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Speaker 20: if Meta is going to play and this AI game,

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01:08:07,973 --> 01:08:13,173
Speaker 20: there is a lot of AI innovation technology skills in India,

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Speaker 20: and they say that this pipe that is obviously you

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Speaker 20: know has India as part of its w means that

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Speaker 20: the US will have META will have a nice high

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Speaker 20: speed pathway to get access through the data centers that

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Speaker 20: they think will be built for AI in India.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, that's really intriguing. Hey, maybe I'm just trying to

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Speaker 3: organize that. Oh can you imagine how long that cable

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Speaker 3: has to be?

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Speaker 20: Like, I'm trying to think of the cable drum on

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Speaker 20: the back of the show.

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Speaker 5: Huge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's only a haunch, but

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Speaker 3: I suspect they might need to refill the capital drum

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Speaker 3: one or two times. Hey, thank you so much, Paul.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch again soon. That's our textbook, Paul Stenhouse. Doctor

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Speaker 3: Brian Betty is here with details on this hooping coffee epidemic.

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Speaker 2: Next, a litle bit.

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Speaker 1: Of way to kick off your weekend than with Jack

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Speaker 3: Doctor Brian Betty is here this morning. Calderbra Ki Jack.

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Speaker 16: It nice to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice to be speaking with you. You know, it

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01:09:10,373 --> 01:09:12,893
Speaker 3: is really concerning, isn't it? More than two hundred and

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Speaker 3: sixty cases of hooping cough have been diagnosed in the

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01:09:15,813 --> 01:09:18,853
Speaker 3: last four weeks. The national epidemic has just been declared

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand, and hooping cough's really serious.

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Speaker 16: Look, it is really serious. It's this epidemic is a

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01:09:27,933 --> 01:09:31,053
Speaker 16: real concern. Look, last year we didn't have a hooping

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01:09:31,093 --> 01:09:34,453
Speaker 16: cough epidemic, yet three babies died in New Zealand from

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01:09:34,493 --> 01:09:39,493
Speaker 16: hooping cough, so it is a very very serious disease. Now, look,

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01:09:39,493 --> 01:09:43,813
Speaker 16: it's caused by bacteria called tussis, and this bacteria gets

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Speaker 16: into the lungs and the throat and it damages the

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01:09:46,893 --> 01:09:49,533
Speaker 16: lining and the thing you start to as this cough,

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Speaker 16: which can go on for weeks or months, and we

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Speaker 16: call that one hundred day cough. Really really easy to catch.

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Speaker 16: So once it's in the community, it's very very transmissible

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Speaker 16: through coughing and sneezing, and one person with hooping cough

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Speaker 16: is quite likely to spread it to twelve o other people.

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Speaker 16: So very very infectious and a real concern, especially for

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Speaker 16: our babies less than one year of age.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are the signs?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, look, it depends on your age. So look, the

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Speaker 16: basic rule of thumb is the younger the child, the

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Speaker 16: more at risk of becoming very unwell. But what we

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Speaker 16: see is it starts with a running nose and a

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Speaker 16: temperature and sneezing, so it's a lot of colder of

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Speaker 16: flu and that can last for one to two weeks.

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Speaker 16: But then this cough develops. Now, this cough is incredibly irritating.

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01:10:36,973 --> 01:10:39,293
Speaker 16: You can get this bounce of coughing that can go

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Speaker 16: on for two to three minutes, with this gasping for

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Speaker 16: air in between coughs, and we call it a hoop

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Speaker 16: that the kids sort of gasp for air, and it's

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Speaker 16: very distinctive. Now, this cough can last for minutes and

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Speaker 16: it often ends in a small vomit at the end

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Speaker 16: of the cough because the child is so distressed. Now,

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Speaker 16: the older children get this hoop, but what's really really

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Speaker 16: important to note that in younger infants less than six

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01:11:02,933 --> 01:11:05,693
Speaker 16: months of age, they don't get this typical hoop. They

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01:11:05,693 --> 01:11:08,733
Speaker 16: can get these hoffing spasms. And what you can see

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Speaker 16: is a child goes a little blue or so I

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01:11:10,733 --> 01:11:13,613
Speaker 16: know this because it can't quite breath. They're not able

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01:11:13,653 --> 01:11:16,773
Speaker 16: to feed, which becomes a real difficult issue, and they

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Speaker 16: get very very tired or exhausted. So these young babies

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Speaker 16: may actually need to end up the hospital so they

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Speaker 16: can be fed and get oxygen supper in patients. So look,

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Speaker 16: I'm very very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 16: The thing about hooping cough is takes up three months

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Speaker 16: to get better, so it goes for a long long time.

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Speaker 16: And what's why we call it the one hundred day cough.

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Speaker 16: It's got a particular name. So yeah, look, real concern

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Speaker 16: that we've got this epidemic in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: And so obviously it's children and partially immunized, iminized babies

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Speaker 3: and stuff that are most at risk.

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Speaker 16: Right, yeah, look, look that's exactly right. So if you

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Speaker 16: haven't had your full immunizations less than the age of one,

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Speaker 16: and that they happen at six weeks, three months, and

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Speaker 16: five months, you're underprotected, so that the child is at risk.

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Speaker 16: But the big, big group we get really concerned about

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01:12:08,933 --> 01:12:12,133
Speaker 16: is less than six weeks of age because those children

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01:12:12,253 --> 01:12:14,893
Speaker 16: haven't got to the point of having their first immunization

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Speaker 16: and they are at one hundred percent risk of hooping

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Speaker 16: cough and it can be really really very very difficult

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Speaker 16: for our little Peppe or Timaruki in those situations.

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Speaker 3: How do you treat it? Brian.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, look, really good question. So a couple of things here. Look,

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01:12:32,053 --> 01:12:35,013
Speaker 16: if you suspect it, we do a nasal swab to

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01:12:35,053 --> 01:12:37,933
Speaker 16: try and diagnose it, and if it is diagnosed, we

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01:12:37,933 --> 01:12:41,413
Speaker 16: can use antibiotics. Now, the earlier we use those in

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01:12:41,453 --> 01:12:45,813
Speaker 16: the course of the disease, the better. It's an antibodic

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01:12:45,813 --> 01:12:49,013
Speaker 16: called erythromas and it's a very specific antibiotic. Now, the

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01:12:49,013 --> 01:12:53,333
Speaker 16: antibiodic may reduce the severity, but it won't necessarily clear

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01:12:53,413 --> 01:12:56,013
Speaker 16: up the hooping cough. This is really important to understand.

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01:12:56,053 --> 01:12:57,773
Speaker 16: So you can still have the cough, which can go

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01:12:57,813 --> 01:13:00,613
Speaker 16: on for the one hundred days is called, but it

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01:13:00,693 --> 01:13:03,853
Speaker 16: reduces the spread of the infection. That's what's really really

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01:13:03,893 --> 01:13:07,853
Speaker 16: important about the antibiotics. Thing about the cough, and it's

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01:13:07,933 --> 01:13:10,573
Speaker 16: very specific because once you get the cough, there is

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Speaker 16: no treatment. There is nothing we can give you which

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01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:15,253
Speaker 16: will stop the cough. So that goes back to our

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01:13:15,293 --> 01:13:19,053
Speaker 16: little babies that if they are having difficulty breathing or

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01:13:19,173 --> 01:13:22,613
Speaker 16: feeding with the cough, we don't have a treatment, and

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01:13:22,693 --> 01:13:25,093
Speaker 16: so that's why they probably may need to go to

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01:13:25,133 --> 01:13:28,093
Speaker 16: hospital for oxygen treatment or to have what we call

1429
01:13:28,173 --> 01:13:31,293
Speaker 16: nasy gastric tubes put in to feed them. So, yeah,

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01:13:31,413 --> 01:13:34,053
Speaker 16: so the cough is not treatable and that's the real,

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01:13:34,213 --> 01:13:35,533
Speaker 16: real key thing about it.

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Speaker 3: How do you prevent it? And when should you see

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01:13:38,173 --> 01:13:38,573
Speaker 3: the doctor?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, look, good questions. So look, I'll we blunt about it.

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Speaker 16: Immunization is the only protection. So immunizing your children it's

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01:13:48,053 --> 01:13:52,493
Speaker 16: six weeks, three months, and five months for hooping cough

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01:13:52,693 --> 01:13:55,813
Speaker 16: is the only thing that will stop hooping cough causing real,

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01:13:55,853 --> 01:13:59,493
Speaker 16: real problems. Now for those babies less than six weeks,

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01:13:59,533 --> 01:14:02,573
Speaker 16: we can't immunize because they're too young. So this is

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01:14:02,773 --> 01:14:06,093
Speaker 16: really this is probably the key message if you are pregnant,

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01:14:06,173 --> 01:14:09,013
Speaker 16: if you're a pregnant mum, then the way you protect

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01:14:09,053 --> 01:14:11,253
Speaker 16: your baby who's less than six weeks of age is

1443
01:14:11,253 --> 01:14:14,773
Speaker 16: getting an immunization or a hooping cough booster from sixteen

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01:14:14,813 --> 01:14:18,613
Speaker 16: weeks onwards in your pregnancy. That will give the baby

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01:14:18,653 --> 01:14:21,453
Speaker 16: protection and give them some sort of protection against hooping cough.

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01:14:21,533 --> 01:14:24,373
Speaker 16: And at the moment, with hooping coughs sort of racing

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01:14:24,413 --> 01:14:28,573
Speaker 16: around the country, that's a really really key important thing

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01:14:28,613 --> 01:14:30,693
Speaker 16: to do. So if you're pregnant, please discuss it with

1449
01:14:30,733 --> 01:14:33,693
Speaker 16: your midwife, Discuss it with your GP, discuss it with

1450
01:14:33,733 --> 01:14:38,933
Speaker 16: your nurse about getting a hooping cough back nation at

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01:14:40,173 --> 01:14:43,693
Speaker 16: sixteen weeks. Look partial umanized kids are at worsk. We

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01:14:43,813 --> 01:14:46,933
Speaker 16: know that, but look a couple of basic things. If

1453
01:14:47,093 --> 01:14:50,493
Speaker 16: your child is really coughing a lot, having difficulty breathing,

1454
01:14:50,573 --> 01:14:53,293
Speaker 16: or looks on well, please see your doctor, but call

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01:14:53,373 --> 01:14:56,733
Speaker 16: an ambulance. If your baby is coughing it goes blue,

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01:14:57,053 --> 01:14:59,533
Speaker 16: or if you notice it stops breathing or anything like that,

1457
01:14:59,813 --> 01:15:01,693
Speaker 16: make sure you call a hamlet's get to a hospital.

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01:15:01,773 --> 01:15:06,093
Speaker 16: So yeah, look something we need to be very very

1459
01:15:06,573 --> 01:15:08,813
Speaker 16: cognizant of and concerned about at this point.

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01:15:09,053 --> 01:15:09,333
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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01:15:09,373 --> 01:15:12,213
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Hey Brian, we really appreciate your help as ever.

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Speaker 3: Brian Beatty there, it's eight two eleven on newstalk.

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Speaker 2: They'd be with Still Sharp. Don't miss their biggest spring

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01:15:19,653 --> 01:15:20,333
Speaker 2: sale ever.

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01:15:20,773 --> 01:15:23,853
Speaker 3: Route, climb past our men in the garden route and

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01:15:23,933 --> 01:15:25,693
Speaker 3: if your place is anything like mine, which I know

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Speaker 3: it isn't, you will be overrun with mealie bugs about

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01:15:28,733 --> 01:15:30,613
Speaker 3: ninety percent of the year. I don't know what it is.

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01:15:30,653 --> 01:15:32,613
Speaker 3: I don't know how we attract them, but once they're there,

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01:15:32,653 --> 01:15:33,893
Speaker 3: they're so hard to get rid of.

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Speaker 8: Because you don't see them when they start. Check that's

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01:15:37,213 --> 01:15:39,773
Speaker 8: the point. They're tiny, and then they grow bigger in

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01:15:39,773 --> 01:15:42,733
Speaker 8: there the eye. So these are my little white little

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01:15:42,853 --> 01:15:46,733
Speaker 8: rottis that look quite gorgeous and beautifully attached to the

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01:15:46,813 --> 01:15:51,333
Speaker 8: white filaments that they let let go everywhere, and so

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01:15:51,413 --> 01:15:55,133
Speaker 8: on so forth. But they are sucking bugs. They suck

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01:15:55,413 --> 01:15:58,133
Speaker 8: due out of your plants, and that's how you notice

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01:15:58,133 --> 01:16:00,733
Speaker 8: that your plants are getting very debilitated after a while.

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01:16:01,293 --> 01:16:03,013
Speaker 8: So for those of you that we don't know what

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01:16:03,013 --> 01:16:04,813
Speaker 8: we're talking about or don't know what we're talking about,

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01:16:04,853 --> 01:16:10,053
Speaker 8: it's white, mealy buggy type stuff. It's like a complete

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01:16:10,213 --> 01:16:14,893
Speaker 8: white Okay. These guys have got all this white stuff

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01:16:14,933 --> 01:16:18,373
Speaker 8: all over their body and also their tails and all that.

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01:16:18,613 --> 01:16:23,013
Speaker 8: And that stuff is waterproof so that if you use

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01:16:23,093 --> 01:16:27,413
Speaker 8: a water based insecticide, it just runs off there like

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01:16:27,533 --> 01:16:30,573
Speaker 8: water off a Dutch back. So it's as simple as that.

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01:16:30,893 --> 01:16:33,013
Speaker 8: So that's not the great way to go. If you

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01:16:33,133 --> 01:16:34,693
Speaker 8: know that you have them and you can see them,

1489
01:16:34,693 --> 01:16:36,653
Speaker 8: of course on nine naturalist and you can do whatever.

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01:16:36,813 --> 01:16:39,533
Speaker 8: Mellibugs are quite common, as you said, the best way

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01:16:39,573 --> 01:16:43,413
Speaker 8: to do is to use an oil based insecticide like

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01:16:43,693 --> 01:16:47,573
Speaker 8: Conqueror oil, because they can't deal to that because it

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01:16:47,653 --> 01:16:52,813
Speaker 8: suffocates them. They can't do that. But even better than

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01:16:52,853 --> 01:16:56,293
Speaker 8: that is the name oil, which is another oil version.

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Speaker 8: There you go, and honestly, if you do that not

1496
01:17:00,093 --> 01:17:03,413
Speaker 8: just once, but let's say every week or so, you'll

1497
01:17:03,453 --> 01:17:06,693
Speaker 8: find you will get on touch on top of them.

1498
01:17:06,853 --> 01:17:08,693
Speaker 8: And the reason is very simple. You do with every

1499
01:17:08,693 --> 01:17:11,133
Speaker 8: now and then is because once they've got little eggs

1500
01:17:11,173 --> 01:17:14,533
Speaker 8: going and little baby's going, they will follow up very quickly.

1501
01:17:14,773 --> 01:17:17,773
Speaker 8: So you need to have another go a week or

1502
01:17:17,773 --> 01:17:21,333
Speaker 8: two weeks later, again and again and again.

1503
01:17:21,533 --> 01:17:23,533
Speaker 3: So when I do it, because we've got kneem oil

1504
01:17:23,573 --> 01:17:25,093
Speaker 3: for it as well. I think I've taken your advice

1505
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:29,053
Speaker 3: on that before. If you should be drenching the plant,

1506
01:17:29,093 --> 01:17:31,133
Speaker 3: even in bits that you can't see, like you should

1507
01:17:31,133 --> 01:17:32,973
Speaker 3: at the underside of the leaves and all that stuff

1508
01:17:32,973 --> 01:17:34,613
Speaker 3: where it doesn't look like there are any Melli bags,

1509
01:17:34,653 --> 01:17:36,133
Speaker 3: there will be Melli bagg eggs.

1510
01:17:36,813 --> 01:17:38,973
Speaker 8: I reckon you're probably one of the best listeners to

1511
01:17:39,053 --> 01:17:39,693
Speaker 8: this show.

1512
01:17:39,573 --> 01:17:45,453
Speaker 3: A funny one of one of though not not necessarily

1513
01:17:45,453 --> 01:17:45,813
Speaker 3: the best.

1514
01:17:45,813 --> 01:17:48,533
Speaker 8: That I think you're doing well.

1515
01:17:48,613 --> 01:17:48,813
Speaker 7: Jack.

1516
01:17:49,253 --> 01:17:50,533
Speaker 8: You're seeing what you come up with.

1517
01:17:50,653 --> 01:17:51,053
Speaker 13: I love it.

1518
01:17:51,133 --> 01:17:52,213
Speaker 8: Yeah, it feels really good.

1519
01:17:52,333 --> 01:17:53,613
Speaker 14: I figured out you're right.

1520
01:17:53,613 --> 01:17:56,093
Speaker 3: Finger in the ear and the three today and christ Church?

1521
01:17:56,173 --> 01:17:58,013
Speaker 3: How's that we're feeling like we're going to have rain

1522
01:17:58,053 --> 01:17:58,653
Speaker 3: it all today?

1523
01:17:59,453 --> 01:18:01,333
Speaker 8: I have no idea what the three is and what

1524
01:18:01,453 --> 01:18:04,093
Speaker 8: christ Church is and what I'm going to take about tomorrow.

1525
01:18:04,133 --> 01:18:08,013
Speaker 3: Goodbye, Okay, very good. We'll be watching the black Caps then,

1526
01:18:08,053 --> 01:18:11,853
Speaker 3: fair enough as they dake on England at Hagley Oval.

1527
01:18:12,573 --> 01:18:15,293
Speaker 3: Game is set to restart in a couple of minutes time,

1528
01:18:15,533 --> 01:18:18,413
Speaker 3: day three of the first Test between England and the

1529
01:18:18,413 --> 01:18:19,773
Speaker 3: black Caps. I'll make sure I keep you up to

1530
01:18:19,773 --> 01:18:21,893
Speaker 3: speak with how that's going after eleven o'clock this morning,

1531
01:18:21,893 --> 01:18:23,853
Speaker 3: as well as that, we've got your travel segment for

1532
01:18:23,893 --> 01:18:26,333
Speaker 3: this week, taking a trip through the y Tucky Valley.

1533
01:18:26,693 --> 01:18:29,253
Speaker 3: Use it next. It's almost eleven Non News Talks EDB.

1534
01:18:29,813 --> 01:18:33,573
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

1535
01:18:33,573 --> 01:18:36,453
Speaker 1: the weekend with Bpure dot cot on ins head for

1536
01:18:36,613 --> 01:18:38,933
Speaker 1: High Quality Supplements Used Talks NB.

1537
01:19:02,453 --> 01:19:02,693
Speaker 19: More.

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01:19:03,013 --> 01:19:05,093
Speaker 3: Ay, good morning if you're just turning on the radio

1539
01:19:05,773 --> 01:19:08,733
Speaker 3: the Saturday Now, I'm Jack Tame. My pleasure to be

1540
01:19:08,773 --> 01:19:11,213
Speaker 3: with you through to midday today. Hey, we started the

1541
01:19:11,213 --> 01:19:13,613
Speaker 3: show this morning by talking about Christmas cards, talking about

1542
01:19:13,613 --> 01:19:18,693
Speaker 3: postcards talking about the lost art of handwriting and sending

1543
01:19:18,773 --> 01:19:23,133
Speaker 3: personalized messages, and we've had so many texts and emails

1544
01:19:23,133 --> 01:19:26,173
Speaker 3: all throughout the morning. So Kitty Ama has pointed out

1545
01:19:26,253 --> 01:19:29,053
Speaker 3: that sending one hundred and twenty cards these days would

1546
01:19:29,053 --> 01:19:32,333
Speaker 3: be incredibly expensive. Cheapest I can see is one hundred

1547
01:19:32,493 --> 01:19:34,413
Speaker 3: is a dollar fifty a pop. So at best you'd

1548
01:19:34,453 --> 01:19:37,373
Speaker 3: be up for one hundred and eighty dollars. That's presumably

1549
01:19:37,373 --> 01:19:39,533
Speaker 3: if you're only sending letters close and they're very small,

1550
01:19:39,653 --> 01:19:41,213
Speaker 3: But even a dollar fifty a pop, I think they

1551
01:19:41,293 --> 01:19:43,733
Speaker 3: might be more expensive than that. Marie took me a

1552
01:19:43,773 --> 01:19:45,813
Speaker 3: note to say, Jack, we used to send more than

1553
01:19:45,853 --> 01:19:48,573
Speaker 3: one hundred cards every year up until about eight years ago.

1554
01:19:48,933 --> 01:19:51,053
Speaker 3: Both me and my partner are from big families. We

1555
01:19:51,093 --> 01:19:52,773
Speaker 3: live all over the world. I would have to start

1556
01:19:52,813 --> 01:19:56,213
Speaker 3: writing in November and we would always receive as many. Yeah,

1557
01:19:56,853 --> 01:19:58,493
Speaker 3: it can be a huge mission, but more than one

1558
01:19:58,533 --> 01:20:01,173
Speaker 3: hundred cards does seem like I don't you know. I

1559
01:20:01,213 --> 01:20:03,253
Speaker 3: was lamenting the loss of Christmas cards, But if you're

1560
01:20:03,293 --> 01:20:05,173
Speaker 3: running more than one hundred, I'm not sure, Marie. Maybe

1561
01:20:05,173 --> 01:20:08,013
Speaker 3: it's net positive. At the end of the day, before

1562
01:20:08,373 --> 01:20:09,853
Speaker 3: before mid day today, we're going to listen to some

1563
01:20:09,893 --> 01:20:13,773
Speaker 3: new music from Kiwi artist Asia. She has been around

1564
01:20:13,853 --> 01:20:17,333
Speaker 3: performing in festivals and making some beautiful music over the

1565
01:20:17,373 --> 01:20:19,813
Speaker 3: last few years, but she's just released her debut album.

1566
01:20:19,853 --> 01:20:21,733
Speaker 3: The album is called car Wise. We're going to listen

1567
01:20:21,773 --> 01:20:23,733
Speaker 3: to that as well as that, I'm going to tell

1568
01:20:23,733 --> 01:20:27,173
Speaker 3: you about Jeremy Clarkson's latest book. It's called Diddley's Squat

1569
01:20:27,213 --> 01:20:29,253
Speaker 3: and our book review has been taking a rid of

1570
01:20:29,253 --> 01:20:33,093
Speaker 3: that this week. Timed one would think perfectly for the

1571
01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:36,293
Speaker 3: Christmas season. Right now, it is eight minutes past eleven.

1572
01:20:36,933 --> 01:20:40,653
Speaker 3: Team Doogle Sutherland is a clinical psychologist from Umbrella Wellbeing

1573
01:20:40,693 --> 01:20:43,413
Speaker 3: and he's with us this morning to close out November.

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01:20:43,533 --> 01:20:47,333
Speaker 19: Calder Doogle Tuoro Jack, Nice to speak to you. Yes,

1575
01:20:47,413 --> 01:20:50,613
Speaker 19: November almost sort of goes a little bit slipped under

1576
01:20:50,653 --> 01:20:52,733
Speaker 19: the radar of recent years, doesn't it.

1577
01:20:52,893 --> 01:20:56,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well are you are you a facial hair grower?

1578
01:20:56,213 --> 01:20:58,773
Speaker 3: Do you do you endole well in November?

1579
01:20:59,293 --> 01:21:03,573
Speaker 19: Well, I haven't I have social hair anyway, So do

1580
01:21:03,693 --> 01:21:05,413
Speaker 19: I choose to shave the other bits off and kick

1581
01:21:05,453 --> 01:21:07,333
Speaker 19: the vod on the front eyes? That's kind of cheating.

1582
01:21:07,413 --> 01:21:11,693
Speaker 19: So I didn't do it this year. I didn't outwardly

1583
01:21:11,733 --> 01:21:12,733
Speaker 19: express my Movember.

1584
01:21:13,533 --> 01:21:15,973
Speaker 3: I just I'm I'm sort of I'm challenged on the

1585
01:21:16,013 --> 01:21:18,453
Speaker 3: November front, and that I can grow an incredibly thick

1586
01:21:18,533 --> 01:21:22,493
Speaker 3: neck beard, like very very my for whatever reason, Like

1587
01:21:22,733 --> 01:21:25,013
Speaker 3: it's not really facial here, it's neck here, just loves

1588
01:21:25,053 --> 01:21:29,373
Speaker 3: to I could grow. Honestly, I shaved last night and

1589
01:21:29,373 --> 01:21:31,373
Speaker 3: already I've sort of got a thick neck beer growing.

1590
01:21:31,413 --> 01:21:34,213
Speaker 3: But the actual facial here is sort of a different story.

1591
01:21:34,253 --> 01:21:37,013
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, It's not it's not an even distribution.

1592
01:21:37,373 --> 01:21:41,373
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not painting a flattering picture, no.

1593
01:21:41,133 --> 01:21:43,053
Speaker 3: As well, this is exactly yeah. Yeah.

1594
01:21:43,173 --> 01:21:44,373
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1595
01:21:44,413 --> 01:21:46,853
Speaker 3: Anyway, you have had a special read this November that

1596
01:21:46,893 --> 01:21:49,173
Speaker 3: you wanted to talk about this morning, and it is

1597
01:21:49,213 --> 01:21:51,133
Speaker 3: a read from somewhere very close to us in the

1598
01:21:51,133 --> 01:21:54,893
Speaker 3: Newstalks Edb Family, Matt Heath's book Are Life Less Punishing.

1599
01:21:56,333 --> 01:21:56,573
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:21:56,613 --> 01:21:59,293
Speaker 19: Absolutely, Look, I was asked to sort of have a

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01:21:59,293 --> 01:22:02,173
Speaker 19: look at the book for a podcast, actually podcast with

1602
01:22:02,253 --> 01:22:07,093
Speaker 19: Francisca Rudgan of all people. Yeah, And to be honest,

1603
01:22:07,133 --> 01:22:10,333
Speaker 19: I approached it with some trepidation because I was kind

1604
01:22:10,373 --> 01:22:13,373
Speaker 19: of thinking, oh, this will be another kind of celebrity

1605
01:22:13,413 --> 01:22:17,533
Speaker 19: type book with you know, fridge magnet quotes about you know,

1606
01:22:17,813 --> 01:22:20,653
Speaker 19: just live life and be yourself wonderful, to be a

1607
01:22:20,653 --> 01:22:22,813
Speaker 19: live kind of thing, which which there's nothing wrong with

1608
01:22:22,813 --> 01:22:25,213
Speaker 19: their inspirational but they're probably not deeply helpful in the

1609
01:22:25,253 --> 01:22:28,653
Speaker 19: mental health point of view. But I was incredibly impressed

1610
01:22:28,773 --> 01:22:35,093
Speaker 19: and very positively surprised by Matt's book around, you know,

1611
01:22:36,373 --> 01:22:39,013
Speaker 19: obviously particularly for men. You know, he's written and he's

1612
01:22:39,013 --> 01:22:41,413
Speaker 19: about the same age as me, and you know, late forties,

1613
01:22:41,413 --> 01:22:46,253
Speaker 19: early fifties, and I think really writes about men's emotional

1614
01:22:46,253 --> 01:22:48,453
Speaker 19: and mental health in a really relatable way.

1615
01:22:48,733 --> 01:22:51,293
Speaker 3: Right, So run us through some of the some of

1616
01:22:51,333 --> 01:22:53,893
Speaker 3: the points that interested you about the book, and then

1617
01:22:53,933 --> 01:22:55,773
Speaker 3: maybe we can talk about the kind of takeaways that

1618
01:22:55,773 --> 01:22:57,573
Speaker 3: you got from it. So what do you think the

1619
01:22:57,693 --> 01:22:58,893
Speaker 3: kind of distinguished his book?

1620
01:23:00,653 --> 01:23:04,213
Speaker 19: Well, interestingly, and I interviewed him for for a webinar

1621
01:23:04,653 --> 01:23:08,013
Speaker 19: that we held this week, and he talked about how

1622
01:23:08,213 --> 01:23:10,413
Speaker 19: I said, you know, who was the book written for?

1623
01:23:10,493 --> 01:23:12,093
Speaker 19: And he said, well, he really wrote it for himself.

1624
01:23:12,133 --> 01:23:14,293
Speaker 19: But to do that, he just got the history of

1625
01:23:14,293 --> 01:23:18,533
Speaker 19: world philosophy and started reading through it, which is slightly unconvinced.

1626
01:23:19,773 --> 01:23:21,253
Speaker 19: I mean, he said it was a very big tone

1627
01:23:21,253 --> 01:23:23,413
Speaker 19: and he wasn't sure actually once he started it where

1628
01:23:23,453 --> 01:23:26,173
Speaker 19: he was going to get through it. I think what

1629
01:23:26,173 --> 01:23:28,613
Speaker 19: he's done is he's really pulled out some sort of

1630
01:23:28,813 --> 01:23:33,773
Speaker 19: historical gems that that people throughout history and philosophers throughout

1631
01:23:33,813 --> 01:23:37,173
Speaker 19: history have used to guide their lives to a better place.

1632
01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:40,333
Speaker 19: He draws a lot on the Stoics, who I think

1633
01:23:40,373 --> 01:23:43,213
Speaker 19: we had this sort of perception of Stoics being very

1634
01:23:43,293 --> 01:23:47,053
Speaker 19: unfeeling and very sort of staunch, and actually he unpacks

1635
01:23:47,053 --> 01:23:49,533
Speaker 19: it really nicely about how that's not who they.

1636
01:23:49,373 --> 01:23:49,893
Speaker 5: Were at all.

1637
01:23:49,893 --> 01:23:52,533
Speaker 19: They were very much about living in the moments and

1638
01:23:53,653 --> 01:23:58,213
Speaker 19: accepting what you've got now rather than worrying and living

1639
01:23:58,213 --> 01:24:01,653
Speaker 19: in the past. So that was really good. I mean,

1640
01:24:01,693 --> 01:24:03,853
Speaker 19: I think what he does is he covers all The

1641
01:24:03,853 --> 01:24:07,493
Speaker 19: book covers a whole range of emment and I think

1642
01:24:07,573 --> 01:24:11,373
Speaker 19: particularly I was glad to see emotions that often trip

1643
01:24:11,453 --> 01:24:16,853
Speaker 19: us up and that men struggle with, you know, anger, shame, guilt, sadness,

1644
01:24:16,893 --> 01:24:20,773
Speaker 19: those ones that are pretty major players on the emotional landscape,

1645
01:24:20,773 --> 01:24:22,733
Speaker 19: but that we don't we often don't really know what

1646
01:24:22,773 --> 01:24:24,933
Speaker 19: to do with them. And I think it's just he

1647
01:24:25,613 --> 01:24:30,013
Speaker 19: gives some really great self self reflective, really and non

1648
01:24:30,053 --> 01:24:34,213
Speaker 19: flattering ways too, some self reflection insights around his struggles

1649
01:24:34,253 --> 01:24:37,373
Speaker 19: with those and what he's done about it. So it's

1650
01:24:37,373 --> 01:24:38,293
Speaker 19: a really nice read.

1651
01:24:38,653 --> 01:24:42,373
Speaker 3: I mean, he's kind of honest and really in a

1652
01:24:42,413 --> 01:24:45,493
Speaker 3: way that you know when someone's running a memoile sometimes

1653
01:24:45,733 --> 01:24:48,773
Speaker 3: they're perhaps a little bit inclined to polish some of

1654
01:24:48,813 --> 01:24:50,213
Speaker 3: the sharper edges.

1655
01:24:51,693 --> 01:24:53,893
Speaker 19: Yeah, I didn't see a lot of polishing at all.

1656
01:24:53,933 --> 01:24:56,813
Speaker 19: It's brutally honest about some of the mistakes he's made

1657
01:24:56,853 --> 01:24:58,973
Speaker 19: and some of the losses that he's had through, you know,

1658
01:24:59,293 --> 01:25:01,573
Speaker 19: a relationship breakup, you know, the death of his mum.

1659
01:25:02,493 --> 01:25:06,613
Speaker 19: You know, so really major life events and just I

1660
01:25:06,653 --> 01:25:10,373
Speaker 19: think making it really accessible for people and relatable because

1661
01:25:10,373 --> 01:25:13,893
Speaker 19: you go, oh yeah, I've been through that too. So yeah,

1662
01:25:13,933 --> 01:25:16,213
Speaker 19: it's really I think it's really powerful.

1663
01:25:16,413 --> 01:25:18,773
Speaker 3: Okay, So what were the kind of takeaways that you

1664
01:25:18,893 --> 01:25:22,053
Speaker 3: think might be helpful for other guys to consider this November.

1665
01:25:23,373 --> 01:25:27,213
Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, he talks a lot about being aware that

1666
01:25:27,293 --> 01:25:30,173
Speaker 19: sometimes we live in this kind of fantasy life, or

1667
01:25:30,173 --> 01:25:33,133
Speaker 19: that we're always aiming for the next best thing. You know,

1668
01:25:33,453 --> 01:25:35,173
Speaker 19: if I do this, then I'll be able to get that,

1669
01:25:35,373 --> 01:25:37,413
Speaker 19: and Okay, if I get this, I'll be able to

1670
01:25:37,453 --> 01:25:39,413
Speaker 19: trade up to that or this is the next rung

1671
01:25:39,453 --> 01:25:40,933
Speaker 19: on the ladder and then I'll be able to climb

1672
01:25:41,013 --> 01:25:44,853
Speaker 19: up for that or and he talks about giving away

1673
01:25:45,013 --> 01:25:51,453
Speaker 19: that imagined life and accepting where you are, you know,

1674
01:25:51,733 --> 01:25:54,653
Speaker 19: and he uses the term settling, which is from another

1675
01:25:54,693 --> 01:25:58,613
Speaker 19: author I think books called four Thousand Weeks. But settling

1676
01:25:58,773 --> 01:26:02,493
Speaker 19: and accepting what you have right now and paying attention

1677
01:26:02,613 --> 01:26:05,573
Speaker 19: to what is around you and who is around you

1678
01:26:05,733 --> 01:26:09,253
Speaker 19: right now. And I think that's a really great message.

1679
01:26:09,253 --> 01:26:11,893
Speaker 19: It's we can often get tied up into the future

1680
01:26:12,013 --> 01:26:14,053
Speaker 19: or maybe living in the past, but he talks a

1681
01:26:14,053 --> 01:26:17,013
Speaker 19: lot about just being aware and accepting what's.

1682
01:26:16,813 --> 01:26:17,813
Speaker 3: Happening right now.

1683
01:26:18,693 --> 01:26:22,133
Speaker 19: Talks a lot about making choices about emotions that often

1684
01:26:22,173 --> 01:26:27,053
Speaker 19: we think it's their inevitable or uncontrollable, and whilst they're

1685
01:26:27,093 --> 01:26:29,413
Speaker 19: impacted by the past and relate to what's happened to

1686
01:26:29,493 --> 01:26:31,813
Speaker 19: us in the past, we do have an element of

1687
01:26:31,853 --> 01:26:35,813
Speaker 19: being able to control them and mastering those and is

1688
01:26:35,853 --> 01:26:39,213
Speaker 19: really helpful. The last thing, the other thing I really

1689
01:26:39,253 --> 01:26:41,493
Speaker 19: like is that he talks about getting himself an imaginary

1690
01:26:41,493 --> 01:26:47,813
Speaker 19: coach or guide, and he uses Willy Uppy Arthur as

1691
01:26:48,133 --> 01:26:50,853
Speaker 19: who's not the maginary person obviously, but as it has

1692
01:26:50,893 --> 01:26:54,973
Speaker 19: his imaginary guide, somebody that's sort of setting challenges for

1693
01:26:55,173 --> 01:26:57,933
Speaker 19: him through life, but is also there to support him

1694
01:26:57,973 --> 01:27:00,253
Speaker 19: to take on those challenges. And I think that's a

1695
01:27:00,253 --> 01:27:05,493
Speaker 19: really nice idea about having somebody that you feels in

1696
01:27:05,533 --> 01:27:07,173
Speaker 19: your corner and cheering you on.

1697
01:27:07,373 --> 01:27:11,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds great. So who would you recommend us for?

1698
01:27:11,133 --> 01:27:12,253
Speaker 3: Who do you think is gon to get the most

1699
01:27:12,293 --> 01:27:13,453
Speaker 3: out of the story right out.

1700
01:27:13,333 --> 01:27:13,693
Speaker 6: Of the book?

1701
01:27:13,893 --> 01:27:16,693
Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, certainly, I think guys over the age of

1702
01:27:16,773 --> 01:27:20,533
Speaker 19: you know, forty, approaching that middle life, I think you'd

1703
01:27:20,573 --> 01:27:24,133
Speaker 19: find it really relatable. I'd also recommend it to guys

1704
01:27:24,133 --> 01:27:26,613
Speaker 19: that are under the age of forty because you might

1705
01:27:26,653 --> 01:27:30,253
Speaker 19: actually pick up some life hacks that you know that

1706
01:27:30,413 --> 01:27:34,093
Speaker 19: you can benefit from from his wisdom and experience. Yeah,

1707
01:27:34,613 --> 01:27:38,253
Speaker 19: And thirdly, i'd recommend it to any woman who has

1708
01:27:38,493 --> 01:27:41,133
Speaker 19: a guy in her life, a partner or a close

1709
01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:44,693
Speaker 19: friend actually to give give them a sense of what

1710
01:27:45,093 --> 01:27:47,893
Speaker 19: kind of being a guy is like sometimes what it's

1711
01:27:47,933 --> 01:27:51,253
Speaker 19: like on the inside. So I guess I'm recommending it

1712
01:27:51,293 --> 01:27:55,453
Speaker 19: to humans over the age of about sixteen, really, but.

1713
01:27:55,493 --> 01:27:59,413
Speaker 3: You know, for different reasons that, Yeah, that would be

1714
01:27:59,573 --> 01:28:01,973
Speaker 3: very easy to hear that, I'm sure. Yeah, no, it

1715
01:28:01,973 --> 01:28:05,933
Speaker 3: does sound great, and that's a yeah, really considered reviewer

1716
01:28:06,013 --> 01:28:09,373
Speaker 3: and in your analysis of what makes this book so unique,

1717
01:28:09,413 --> 01:28:11,733
Speaker 3: So thank you, Dogle, We really appreciate it. Google Sutherland

1718
01:28:11,733 --> 01:28:14,493
Speaker 3: there from Umbrella Wellbeing and the book is of course

1719
01:28:14,813 --> 01:28:18,013
Speaker 3: a life less punishing by our very own Matt Heath,

1720
01:28:18,213 --> 01:28:19,813
Speaker 3: and we'll make sure all of the details for that

1721
01:28:19,853 --> 01:28:22,933
Speaker 3: are on the news talks He'd be website sixteen past eleven.

1722
01:28:22,973 --> 01:28:24,173
Speaker 3: We're traveling next.

1723
01:28:24,733 --> 01:28:28,973
Speaker 1: Traveled with Wendy wo Tours, unique fully inclusive tours around

1724
01:28:29,013 --> 01:28:29,853
Speaker 1: the world.

1725
01:28:29,893 --> 01:28:33,093
Speaker 3: And travel Corresponding. Mike Yardley is with us this morning.

1726
01:28:33,173 --> 01:28:37,213
Speaker 21: Kelder child, Jack kiss, what's just arrived at my place?

1727
01:28:37,813 --> 01:28:37,973
Speaker 19: Oh?

1728
01:28:38,933 --> 01:28:40,533
Speaker 3: Oh, I know it's going to be like a like

1729
01:28:40,653 --> 01:28:46,493
Speaker 3: a sixty foot high inflatable center or no, okay, let

1730
01:28:46,533 --> 01:28:50,733
Speaker 3: me see like a like a life size sleigh and

1731
01:28:50,933 --> 01:28:52,773
Speaker 3: reindeer scene.

1732
01:28:54,853 --> 01:28:56,933
Speaker 21: That's what I've been after. But no, I've got a

1733
01:28:57,013 --> 01:28:58,373
Speaker 21: Christmas card. Shall I open it?

1734
01:28:58,533 --> 01:28:58,653
Speaker 22: Oh?

1735
01:28:58,933 --> 01:29:01,693
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'd be surprised if it were for me.

1736
01:29:03,573 --> 01:29:07,013
Speaker 21: Let me read it. Okay, Hey, Mike, chats with me

1737
01:29:07,173 --> 01:29:13,973
Speaker 21: every Saturday are so tiresome. They absolutely suck. At least

1738
01:29:14,653 --> 01:29:17,053
Speaker 21: at least the holiday season. We'll give us all a

1739
01:29:17,133 --> 01:29:19,493
Speaker 21: break from your gallivanting. Merry Christmas.

1740
01:29:19,613 --> 01:29:19,853
Speaker 19: Jack.

1741
01:29:21,693 --> 01:29:25,973
Speaker 3: Look, that sounds accurate in one scense, but another, I'm

1742
01:29:26,133 --> 01:29:28,213
Speaker 3: fairly confident it's not what I wrote in your card

1743
01:29:28,253 --> 01:29:28,573
Speaker 3: this year.

1744
01:29:28,653 --> 01:29:33,133
Speaker 21: Maybe someone's an impost and pretended to send me one

1745
01:29:33,173 --> 01:29:33,853
Speaker 21: from you. See.

1746
01:29:33,933 --> 01:29:37,013
Speaker 3: I feel like you, of anyone on the show, would

1747
01:29:37,053 --> 01:29:40,613
Speaker 3: would still be sending and receiving more postcards, more Christmas cards?

1748
01:29:41,173 --> 01:29:42,533
Speaker 3: Do you still? You don't send them?

1749
01:29:43,493 --> 01:29:45,653
Speaker 21: I only send one to you, Oh my gosh.

1750
01:29:45,933 --> 01:29:46,133
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1751
01:29:46,213 --> 01:29:49,173
Speaker 21: The bulk of my ones are the e greetings and

1752
01:29:50,493 --> 01:29:51,493
Speaker 21: messages and.

1753
01:29:53,013 --> 01:29:56,293
Speaker 3: Just not legreeting. You don't nothing, you don't want anything,

1754
01:29:56,413 --> 01:29:59,733
Speaker 3: as far as I When I come to that now,

1755
01:29:59,853 --> 01:30:02,693
Speaker 3: I noted that I can't hear a cheering crowd on

1756
01:30:02,773 --> 01:30:05,293
Speaker 3: the embankment at Hagley Oval behind you. That could be

1757
01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:07,493
Speaker 3: because the crowd isn't cheer at the moment. England looking

1758
01:30:07,573 --> 01:30:09,733
Speaker 3: not at all comfortable for the time being three forty

1759
01:30:09,773 --> 01:30:10,093
Speaker 3: for five.

1760
01:30:10,213 --> 01:30:13,333
Speaker 21: But yeah, your on the opening day. I loved it

1761
01:30:13,453 --> 01:30:16,493
Speaker 21: for just such a great setup there and it's just

1762
01:30:16,613 --> 01:30:19,173
Speaker 21: so chilled. It feels like a big mass picnic.

1763
01:30:19,613 --> 01:30:22,013
Speaker 6: Yeah, click back, it's really good.

1764
01:30:22,213 --> 01:30:24,213
Speaker 3: I mean that's it is just so good to see,

1765
01:30:24,333 --> 01:30:27,613
Speaker 3: especially because you have the grass embankment that makes it

1766
01:30:27,653 --> 01:30:29,733
Speaker 3: so difference. You know, when it comes to test cricket,

1767
01:30:29,773 --> 01:30:31,933
Speaker 3: there is nothing quite like just sitting on the bank

1768
01:30:32,293 --> 01:30:35,133
Speaker 3: in the sun watching the leather on willow. You know,

1769
01:30:35,333 --> 01:30:38,773
Speaker 3: it's it's wonderful. Okay, So anyway, the English are still

1770
01:30:38,813 --> 01:30:41,293
Speaker 3: looking pretty strong there for the time being. They've put

1771
01:30:41,333 --> 01:30:43,053
Speaker 3: on a few runs this morning. They're very nearly at

1772
01:30:43,053 --> 01:30:46,293
Speaker 3: the black Caps first and things total currently only five down.

1773
01:30:46,373 --> 01:30:48,653
Speaker 3: Of course, Ben Stokes forty one not out, Harry Brook

1774
01:30:48,693 --> 01:30:51,613
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty seven not out, gulp out. So

1775
01:30:52,013 --> 01:30:54,733
Speaker 3: we will watch that today. Anyway, We're taking a summer

1776
01:30:54,773 --> 01:30:57,053
Speaker 3: road trip through the y Tucky Valley this morning, one

1777
01:30:57,093 --> 01:30:59,733
Speaker 3: hundred kilometers in length. Where would be a good starting point.

1778
01:31:00,573 --> 01:31:03,053
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, it is a summer road trip season, and

1779
01:31:03,213 --> 01:31:06,173
Speaker 21: I think this is a really good option because it's

1780
01:31:06,173 --> 01:31:10,053
Speaker 21: a less traffic jaunt over summer. So once you get

1781
01:31:10,573 --> 01:31:13,853
Speaker 21: to the Waitucki River, get over the bridge, turn off

1782
01:31:13,933 --> 01:31:16,853
Speaker 21: State Highway one onto State Highway eighty three and head

1783
01:31:16,933 --> 01:31:23,293
Speaker 21: for dun Troon, which is such a distinctively rustic, raffish

1784
01:31:23,493 --> 01:31:26,373
Speaker 21: sort of village. I love Duntroon's great name as well

1785
01:31:26,373 --> 01:31:30,333
Speaker 21: as an are Scottish name. The thing about Duntroon Jack

1786
01:31:30,453 --> 01:31:34,053
Speaker 21: is twenty five million years ago, it was under the ocean.

1787
01:31:34,133 --> 01:31:37,293
Speaker 21: It was pretty much the ocean floor what you see

1788
01:31:37,493 --> 01:31:43,293
Speaker 21: today around the Duntroon landscape, and obviously seismic forces thrust

1789
01:31:43,413 --> 01:31:47,773
Speaker 21: that all upwards over time. But the dun Trone area

1790
01:31:47,893 --> 01:31:50,693
Speaker 21: is also home to the Veniced World Center, so this

1791
01:31:50,893 --> 01:31:53,493
Speaker 21: is a really good place to start to give you

1792
01:31:53,613 --> 01:31:58,773
Speaker 21: the bare bones backstory on all of that prehistoric geological

1793
01:31:59,573 --> 01:32:03,573
Speaker 21: wealth that is bestowed on the region today. In the center,

1794
01:32:03,653 --> 01:32:07,653
Speaker 21: they've got so many fossils, so many fossilized discoveries that

1795
01:32:07,813 --> 01:32:11,253
Speaker 21: a lot of farmers in the White Techi district basically

1796
01:32:11,573 --> 01:32:15,493
Speaker 21: dug up from the limestone on the land so you

1797
01:32:15,533 --> 01:32:20,613
Speaker 21: can see like old dolphin skulls, whalebones, penguin bones. So

1798
01:32:20,773 --> 01:32:22,973
Speaker 21: it's a really good scene set in a bit of

1799
01:32:23,013 --> 01:32:25,573
Speaker 21: a trophy room more than one at the vanished World Center.

1800
01:32:25,773 --> 01:32:28,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice and done. Truone is the best launchpad into

1801
01:32:28,733 --> 01:32:29,453
Speaker 3: the geopark.

1802
01:32:30,133 --> 01:32:33,573
Speaker 21: Oh yes, the Wye Tacky White Stone Geopark, which is

1803
01:32:33,733 --> 01:32:39,053
Speaker 21: Australasia's first and only UNSCO geopark. So once you've got

1804
01:32:39,093 --> 01:32:43,493
Speaker 21: to grips with the geological backstory at the center. You

1805
01:32:43,573 --> 01:32:46,053
Speaker 21: can just hurl yourself at the region and they've got

1806
01:32:46,093 --> 01:32:48,973
Speaker 21: a really good self drive touring route which they call

1807
01:32:49,053 --> 01:32:52,533
Speaker 21: the Banished World Trail. So this will take you through

1808
01:32:52,653 --> 01:32:56,053
Speaker 21: all sorts of landforms. It will take you to places

1809
01:32:56,213 --> 01:32:59,373
Speaker 21: where there are lots of fossil fines, lots of rich

1810
01:32:59,493 --> 01:33:02,413
Speaker 21: cultural history of the White Tucky. And there are forty

1811
01:33:02,613 --> 01:33:07,893
Speaker 21: designated sites all across the geopark that you can wander

1812
01:33:08,013 --> 01:33:09,613
Speaker 21: around as you wish.

1813
01:33:10,053 --> 01:33:12,813
Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, that sounds fantastic. So what would be some

1814
01:33:13,013 --> 01:33:14,573
Speaker 3: of the essential sites?

1815
01:33:15,453 --> 01:33:18,013
Speaker 21: Well, I reckon. My favorite is actually right on the

1816
01:33:18,133 --> 01:33:22,173
Speaker 21: highway Takurroa, which is the rock art site very close

1817
01:33:22,253 --> 01:33:25,573
Speaker 21: to Duntruen, and this is where early Maldi traveling through

1818
01:33:25,613 --> 01:33:29,413
Speaker 21: the valley would shelter in those limestone overhangs and you

1819
01:33:29,493 --> 01:33:33,133
Speaker 21: can see all of the etchings of animals of early

1820
01:33:33,253 --> 01:33:37,413
Speaker 21: European contacts. There's even like sailing ships etched into the

1821
01:33:37,533 --> 01:33:40,453
Speaker 21: limestone rock in that cliff face. I just love it.

1822
01:33:40,853 --> 01:33:43,853
Speaker 21: From their head to elephant rocks. Obviously, people think of

1823
01:33:43,893 --> 01:33:47,733
Speaker 21: the Nannia film trilogy because this is the region where

1824
01:33:47,733 --> 01:33:50,853
Speaker 21: a lot of it was shot Elephant rocks, very well named,

1825
01:33:50,973 --> 01:33:53,973
Speaker 21: wonderfully whimsical, all sorts of limestone rocks that have been

1826
01:33:54,053 --> 01:33:57,773
Speaker 21: sculpted by nature's forces. It's a very strange elephant shaped

1827
01:33:57,853 --> 01:34:03,573
Speaker 21: out crops. And then also nearby elephant rocks another site, unatteeny.

1828
01:34:04,253 --> 01:34:07,933
Speaker 21: The really cool thing about unatteeny is you can see

1829
01:34:08,013 --> 01:34:12,013
Speaker 21: the fossilized bones of a whale exposed in the limestone

1830
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:15,333
Speaker 21: and they reckon this whale. It was a baling whale.

1831
01:34:15,613 --> 01:34:19,773
Speaker 21: It would be similar to a minky whale today, similar

1832
01:34:19,853 --> 01:34:20,413
Speaker 21: sort of whale.

1833
01:34:20,453 --> 01:34:20,853
Speaker 15: But yeah.

1834
01:34:20,973 --> 01:34:24,973
Speaker 21: Auneteeny also served as a film site that was as

1835
01:34:25,093 --> 01:34:28,573
Speaker 21: Land's Camp in the Nannia film trilogy, and the wider

1836
01:34:28,733 --> 01:34:31,453
Speaker 21: area around Unatteny Jack is known as the Valley of

1837
01:34:31,493 --> 01:34:34,573
Speaker 21: the Whales by the locals because of the sheer abundance

1838
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:38,853
Speaker 21: of fossilized marine life that that limestone throws up. Another

1839
01:34:39,013 --> 01:34:43,333
Speaker 21: rockstar spectacle earthquakes. I love that name, and it does

1840
01:34:43,413 --> 01:34:45,773
Speaker 21: look like an earthquake hit the area when you arrived.

1841
01:34:45,813 --> 01:34:50,133
Speaker 21: There are these monstrous slabs of limestone that have splinted

1842
01:34:50,173 --> 01:34:52,413
Speaker 21: off the hillside and it all happened when the land

1843
01:34:52,493 --> 01:34:55,973
Speaker 21: slumps thousands of years ago. But yeah, a really confronting site.

1844
01:34:56,293 --> 01:35:00,493
Speaker 3: Nice. So the westernmost attraction are the Clay Cliffs at

1845
01:35:00,693 --> 01:35:01,173
Speaker 3: or Marta.

1846
01:35:01,093 --> 01:35:03,933
Speaker 21: Yet right, Yes, very well known and if you haven't

1847
01:35:03,973 --> 01:35:06,573
Speaker 21: been there, you've got to go in just a and

1848
01:35:06,773 --> 01:35:10,053
Speaker 21: counter the glory of nature at Clay Cliff. So it's

1849
01:35:10,053 --> 01:35:12,573
Speaker 21: about forty five minutes west of Duntron, deep into the

1850
01:35:12,693 --> 01:35:16,013
Speaker 21: valley and it's like a little boost of Utah at

1851
01:35:16,053 --> 01:35:20,773
Speaker 21: the western end of the Wayertucky Valley. Very serrated and

1852
01:35:20,853 --> 01:35:23,253
Speaker 21: it's got a little slot canyon that you can shimmy

1853
01:35:23,333 --> 01:35:25,973
Speaker 21: through as well. But that cliff face, it is like

1854
01:35:26,093 --> 01:35:32,893
Speaker 21: a grand collection of gigantic organ pipes, tall fluted exploding

1855
01:35:33,013 --> 01:35:35,653
Speaker 21: from the eroded cliff face. It is just so dramatic.

1856
01:35:35,973 --> 01:35:37,413
Speaker 21: So that's a do not miss nice.

1857
01:35:37,573 --> 01:35:40,093
Speaker 3: So for a change of scenery, what about the Lakes District.

1858
01:35:40,893 --> 01:35:44,773
Speaker 21: Yeah, if you're tracking back from Omadama, definitely check out

1859
01:35:44,813 --> 01:35:47,973
Speaker 21: the Hydro Lakes District, which is literally a powerhouse for

1860
01:35:48,173 --> 01:35:51,933
Speaker 21: the nation. I love Lake Benmore and it's probably for

1861
01:35:52,053 --> 01:35:55,893
Speaker 21: a couple of reasons. It's New Zealand's largest artificial lake.

1862
01:35:56,293 --> 01:35:59,093
Speaker 21: It holds roughly one and a half times the water

1863
01:35:59,253 --> 01:36:03,453
Speaker 21: of Wellington Harbor, so it is a vision of vivid

1864
01:36:03,533 --> 01:36:07,693
Speaker 21: blue because of all of that glacial rock salt in

1865
01:36:07,773 --> 01:36:11,853
Speaker 21: the water. And then you've got these fantastic trails around

1866
01:36:11,973 --> 01:36:14,053
Speaker 21: Lake Benmore. I reckon the best is the ben Moore

1867
01:36:14,093 --> 01:36:17,373
Speaker 21: Peninsula Track, so it's about a ninety minute loop, so

1868
01:36:17,533 --> 01:36:19,693
Speaker 21: you can sort of double it with a picnic. You

1869
01:36:19,853 --> 01:36:22,293
Speaker 21: get greeny views down to the lake and then you've

1870
01:36:22,333 --> 01:36:24,933
Speaker 21: got mighty Alaki shimmering in the distance.

1871
01:36:25,413 --> 01:36:28,253
Speaker 3: Now, for all Richie McCaw fans, of course, that's part

1872
01:36:28,253 --> 01:36:30,973
Speaker 3: of the country. There's synonymous with Korah. But there are

1873
01:36:31,133 --> 01:36:33,053
Speaker 3: some local wineries to try to.

1874
01:36:34,133 --> 01:36:37,653
Speaker 21: Yes, not far from ben Moore. Definitely call into Kuau

1875
01:36:37,693 --> 01:36:40,453
Speaker 21: for some walloons refreshments, and I would suggest check out

1876
01:36:40,493 --> 01:36:43,213
Speaker 21: the local wine because the White Taki Valley is now

1877
01:36:43,293 --> 01:36:46,733
Speaker 21: home to about a dozen very boutiquy wine producers.

1878
01:36:47,533 --> 01:36:49,013
Speaker 6: A great option is River.

1879
01:36:49,013 --> 01:36:54,013
Speaker 21: T Cellar Door in Kouau because not only do they

1880
01:36:54,293 --> 01:36:57,253
Speaker 21: showcase their own wine, but also some fellow producers at

1881
01:36:57,253 --> 01:37:01,373
Speaker 21: the Cellar door really good Pino, pino, gree and reasling,

1882
01:37:01,493 --> 01:37:04,973
Speaker 21: so it's Burgundy style wines check that are doing really

1883
01:37:05,013 --> 01:37:06,733
Speaker 21: well in the White Tachytastic.

1884
01:37:06,813 --> 01:37:08,973
Speaker 3: Hey, I've got some bad news. You don't want to

1885
01:37:09,013 --> 01:37:13,093
Speaker 3: believe this. The black Caps have just dropped Harry Brook again.

1886
01:37:13,773 --> 01:37:17,853
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, so it's Glenn Phillips who's now taken

1887
01:37:18,213 --> 01:37:21,453
Speaker 3: the catch of the year and dropped two relative sitters.

1888
01:37:22,213 --> 01:37:25,133
Speaker 3: That's I think the seventh drop catch in listening, So

1889
01:37:25,213 --> 01:37:27,453
Speaker 3: Harry brings on one hundred and forty seven not out.

1890
01:37:28,093 --> 01:37:30,973
Speaker 21: Oh you could be slipping away, Jack, I feel like

1891
01:37:31,053 --> 01:37:31,453
Speaker 21: it might be.

1892
01:37:31,573 --> 01:37:33,373
Speaker 3: It feels like the Criocket and gods are not shining

1893
01:37:33,453 --> 01:37:36,213
Speaker 3: upon us at the moment. But never hey, they certainly

1894
01:37:36,253 --> 01:37:38,653
Speaker 3: shining upon the White Tacky Valley though. That sounds fantastic.

1895
01:37:38,733 --> 01:37:40,373
Speaker 3: So we're going to put all of your advice for

1896
01:37:40,653 --> 01:37:43,013
Speaker 3: road tripping through that gorgeous part of the world up

1897
01:37:43,133 --> 01:37:45,613
Speaker 3: on the news Talks. He'd be website. We'll catch up

1898
01:37:45,613 --> 01:37:48,213
Speaker 3: with Alit Smith. He's taking us through weekend sport this afternoon.

1899
01:37:48,253 --> 01:37:50,373
Speaker 3: In a couple of minutes. Right now, it's twenty eight past.

1900
01:37:50,173 --> 01:37:57,933
Speaker 1: Eleven, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

1901
01:37:58,053 --> 01:38:13,413
Speaker 1: team on news talks. Heb News Dogs.

1902
01:38:13,413 --> 01:38:15,733
Speaker 3: They'd be with Jack Tame for another half an hour

1903
01:38:15,813 --> 01:38:17,653
Speaker 3: or so. Then Elliott Smith will be taking the reins

1904
01:38:17,693 --> 01:38:20,533
Speaker 3: this afternoon for a weekend sport and he is watching

1905
01:38:20,573 --> 01:38:23,213
Speaker 3: the cricket at Hagley Oval and feeling just about as

1906
01:38:23,213 --> 01:38:24,213
Speaker 3: grumpy as I am right now.

1907
01:38:24,693 --> 01:38:27,133
Speaker 23: I'm trying to watch it through gritted teeth and you know,

1908
01:38:27,293 --> 01:38:30,933
Speaker 23: through eyes and just trying to figure out what's going

1909
01:38:30,933 --> 01:38:31,573
Speaker 23: with this fielding.

1910
01:38:32,293 --> 01:38:34,453
Speaker 3: It's the thing about fielding. It was the one thing

1911
01:38:34,493 --> 01:38:36,893
Speaker 3: we've always been good at relative to other teams, right

1912
01:38:36,933 --> 01:38:39,373
Speaker 3: because other teams have had kind of prodigious talents and

1913
01:38:39,453 --> 01:38:41,373
Speaker 3: all of this, and you know, they've had, you know,

1914
01:38:41,493 --> 01:38:43,973
Speaker 3: a billion people from which to select the team. We've

1915
01:38:44,053 --> 01:38:46,613
Speaker 3: only had a tiny fraction of that. But we've always

1916
01:38:46,613 --> 01:38:48,533
Speaker 3: thought it doesn't matter if we don't necessarily have the talent,

1917
01:38:48,533 --> 01:38:51,013
Speaker 3: because we'll practice hard. And what does no one like

1918
01:38:51,093 --> 01:38:53,933
Speaker 3: doing when they're practicing. They don't like practicing fielding. But

1919
01:38:54,053 --> 01:38:56,533
Speaker 3: we thought we'd do that. Well, it's always paid off,

1920
01:38:57,053 --> 01:38:59,813
Speaker 3: and this is seven seven catches now it's.

1921
01:38:59,693 --> 01:39:02,973
Speaker 23: Even drop catches five. A loan for Harry Brook who's

1922
01:39:02,973 --> 01:39:04,653
Speaker 23: one hundred and forty eight now not out.

1923
01:39:04,853 --> 01:39:06,613
Speaker 3: I mean it would be embarrassing if he had got

1924
01:39:06,613 --> 01:39:08,173
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty eight night out having been.

1925
01:39:08,053 --> 01:39:11,253
Speaker 23: That's right, he's been given an ample opportunity and the

1926
01:39:11,333 --> 01:39:13,693
Speaker 23: Black Caps just can't seem to hold onto a catch

1927
01:39:14,333 --> 01:39:16,733
Speaker 23: for love nor money. And you're right, this used to

1928
01:39:16,813 --> 01:39:18,813
Speaker 23: be a real strength of the team where they didn't

1929
01:39:18,813 --> 01:39:20,933
Speaker 23: have a lot else going for them necessarily at points,

1930
01:39:21,013 --> 01:39:23,853
Speaker 23: and the last fifteen twenty years they would get by

1931
01:39:23,893 --> 01:39:25,613
Speaker 23: on their fielding and it would be a real asset,

1932
01:39:25,653 --> 01:39:27,733
Speaker 23: real weapon in some ways for them that they would

1933
01:39:27,773 --> 01:39:30,533
Speaker 23: field harder than every other team in the world and

1934
01:39:30,573 --> 01:39:31,653
Speaker 23: take those opportunities.

1935
01:39:31,733 --> 01:39:34,133
Speaker 3: So it's hard to know if it's kind of this

1936
01:39:34,213 --> 01:39:37,373
Speaker 3: is symptomatic of something greater, or if it's just a

1937
01:39:37,493 --> 01:39:39,813
Speaker 3: really just a bad luck bad luck.

1938
01:39:39,853 --> 01:39:40,133
Speaker 19: I don't know.

1939
01:39:40,253 --> 01:39:42,373
Speaker 23: I mean, there's been a few moments over the last

1940
01:39:42,413 --> 01:39:44,733
Speaker 23: couple of years that's not as sharp as it used

1941
01:39:44,773 --> 01:39:44,893
Speaker 23: to be.

1942
01:39:44,973 --> 01:39:46,253
Speaker 3: The field Atlana series.

1943
01:39:46,373 --> 01:39:49,613
Speaker 23: Yeah, but when you lose. We dropped six in a

1944
01:39:49,693 --> 01:39:51,253
Speaker 23: day and they've just dropped one, as I said this

1945
01:39:51,373 --> 01:39:54,653
Speaker 23: morning early on, when you're trying to break a partnership

1946
01:39:54,773 --> 01:39:58,053
Speaker 23: like this and prevent England from building a lead, not good.

1947
01:39:58,333 --> 01:40:00,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are now officially leading, by the way, so

1948
01:40:00,573 --> 01:40:04,413
Speaker 3: they've taken the second ball, second new ball, but England

1949
01:40:04,533 --> 01:40:06,613
Speaker 3: currently have a lead of two runs five wits still

1950
01:40:06,613 --> 01:40:08,373
Speaker 3: in hand at Hagley Oval anyway, I'll keep you auple

1951
01:40:08,373 --> 01:40:11,933
Speaker 3: to speed with that. Liam Lawson. Yes weekend, pretty good

1952
01:40:11,933 --> 01:40:13,973
Speaker 3: start to the weekend coming off the back of Las Vegas.

1953
01:40:14,013 --> 01:40:15,653
Speaker 3: That didn't really go his way and.

1954
01:40:15,773 --> 01:40:18,493
Speaker 23: Fire for him, did it, But promising signs there for

1955
01:40:18,653 --> 01:40:20,893
Speaker 23: Cutter and the sprint race and the race proper. And

1956
01:40:21,493 --> 01:40:23,853
Speaker 23: I guess, all eyes, we still don't have a confirmed

1957
01:40:23,893 --> 01:40:26,413
Speaker 23: picture of exactly how twenty twenty five looks for them.

1958
01:40:26,493 --> 01:40:29,373
Speaker 23: Is a few ideas out there around it, around it

1959
01:40:29,413 --> 01:40:31,373
Speaker 23: how it might look. But I guess every race he does,

1960
01:40:31,453 --> 01:40:35,253
Speaker 23: every qualifying session, sets him up better for next year

1961
01:40:35,333 --> 01:40:37,853
Speaker 23: and makes them harder to be booted out of that

1962
01:40:37,933 --> 01:40:40,613
Speaker 23: seat in the car, I suppose. And it's just great

1963
01:40:40,653 --> 01:40:43,413
Speaker 23: having a Kiwi in the top race and forms one.

1964
01:40:43,533 --> 01:40:45,933
Speaker 3: It's so good. I just I've become obsessed with the

1965
01:40:46,053 --> 01:40:48,173
Speaker 3: logistics of the whole thing, and that's a ridiculous thing

1966
01:40:48,213 --> 01:40:51,493
Speaker 3: to fuss over. But I was thinking, I mean, first

1967
01:40:51,533 --> 01:40:54,293
Speaker 3: of all, incredible pressure, right, So you're driving these cars

1968
01:40:54,293 --> 01:40:56,413
Speaker 3: at three hundred ks an hour basically, and you know,

1969
01:40:56,653 --> 01:41:00,293
Speaker 3: trying to stay safe, but not only that, you like

1970
01:41:00,453 --> 01:41:02,733
Speaker 3: you have to race one weekend in Las Vegas and

1971
01:41:02,813 --> 01:41:05,133
Speaker 3: then the next weekend you're racing and cutter, I mean

1972
01:41:05,173 --> 01:41:07,573
Speaker 3: the time difference alone exactly to be to be dealing

1973
01:41:07,613 --> 01:41:10,213
Speaker 3: with that, just if you weren't driving a cart three

1974
01:41:10,253 --> 01:41:18,173
Speaker 3: hundred kilometers an hour, just to be driving a caring.

1975
01:41:15,173 --> 01:41:17,493
Speaker 23: And I know they're doing it and it covers. But

1976
01:41:18,253 --> 01:41:22,173
Speaker 23: even still, to go from Vegas to Doha or cut

1977
01:41:22,213 --> 01:41:24,693
Speaker 23: her and two you couldn't get two more extreme sort

1978
01:41:24,733 --> 01:41:27,893
Speaker 23: of places and their approaches to the world really, and

1979
01:41:28,013 --> 01:41:30,013
Speaker 23: then you go out there and try and scorch the track.

1980
01:41:30,253 --> 01:41:30,773
Speaker 3: It's great to me.

1981
01:41:30,813 --> 01:41:31,893
Speaker 23: I know it's been in Europe for the last four

1982
01:41:31,933 --> 01:41:34,413
Speaker 23: or five weeks and seeing those races in primetime over

1983
01:41:34,453 --> 01:41:37,213
Speaker 23: there on Sunday afternoons. You know, they capture so we

1984
01:41:37,253 --> 01:41:39,293
Speaker 23: get a picture of it here obviously, but we get

1985
01:41:39,293 --> 01:41:40,973
Speaker 23: a sense really of how big F one is on

1986
01:41:41,013 --> 01:41:42,973
Speaker 23: the world stage when you're in that climbate and watching

1987
01:41:43,053 --> 01:41:45,133
Speaker 23: them that time zone, knowing you know, this is a

1988
01:41:45,213 --> 01:41:47,773
Speaker 23: Kiwi on the world stage competing and right up there.

1989
01:41:47,733 --> 01:41:50,693
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and doing so well. Auckland f C playing

1990
01:41:51,013 --> 01:41:53,133
Speaker 3: this evening in Auckland, yea where it's not flash is

1991
01:41:53,173 --> 01:41:54,693
Speaker 3: it not great in Auckland?

1992
01:41:54,693 --> 01:41:55,173
Speaker 2: But that's all right?

1993
01:41:55,653 --> 01:41:58,533
Speaker 3: That might that might be an asset for them going

1994
01:41:58,573 --> 01:42:00,493
Speaker 3: into what could be a pretty tough game, but they're

1995
01:42:00,493 --> 01:42:02,613
Speaker 3: looking to extend this incredible winning stress.

1996
01:42:02,693 --> 01:42:05,173
Speaker 23: Remarkable, isn't it? Four games, four wins. Fifth game this

1997
01:42:05,213 --> 01:42:08,413
Speaker 23: afternoon against Newcastle. Max Matter is going to join us

1998
01:42:08,453 --> 01:42:10,693
Speaker 23: so one of the New Zealand based players or New

1999
01:42:10,773 --> 01:42:13,973
Speaker 23: Zealand all white players in the Auckland f C squad

2000
01:42:14,053 --> 01:42:16,253
Speaker 23: to talk about this remarkable run to start the season.

2001
01:42:16,773 --> 01:42:18,893
Speaker 23: Big Derby game coming up next week, of course, but

2002
01:42:19,253 --> 01:42:22,093
Speaker 23: they bank another three points against Newcastle, They're going to

2003
01:42:22,133 --> 01:42:25,013
Speaker 23: continue being top and just their confidence begins to grow.

2004
01:42:25,733 --> 01:42:28,133
Speaker 23: It's crazy how this team has just managed to build,

2005
01:42:28,253 --> 01:42:29,853
Speaker 23: not only on the field but off the field as well.

2006
01:42:29,893 --> 01:42:31,653
Speaker 23: They've got a new coffee shop that's opened up on

2007
01:42:32,093 --> 01:42:34,693
Speaker 23: College Hill as well. They don't know, yeah, they just

2008
01:42:34,733 --> 01:42:35,653
Speaker 23: opened up of the last week.

2009
01:42:35,693 --> 01:42:37,533
Speaker 3: We'll very good. I'll be there this evening of course,

2010
01:42:37,613 --> 01:42:39,773
Speaker 3: there you go and wearing your blue and black colors.

2011
01:42:40,253 --> 01:42:44,253
Speaker 3: Been there every game so far. Yeah, yeah done, my

2012
01:42:44,373 --> 01:42:47,733
Speaker 3: bet st Port, you're doing the chance. I'm not on

2013
01:42:47,853 --> 01:42:50,213
Speaker 3: the poor and I appreciate the port. But when you

2014
01:42:50,293 --> 01:42:54,893
Speaker 3: take a seven year old along you said to think, yeah, yeah,

2015
01:42:55,613 --> 01:42:57,253
Speaker 3: so what I was on the show the baseball four

2016
01:42:57,293 --> 01:42:59,213
Speaker 3: black Caps player and coach is going to join us

2017
01:42:59,253 --> 01:43:00,933
Speaker 3: to talk about some of the drop seas and also

2018
01:43:00,973 --> 01:43:02,773
Speaker 3: how the test is play st affter midday. I wonder

2019
01:43:02,773 --> 01:43:04,813
Speaker 3: how quickly they can turn it round. I mean, surely

2020
01:43:04,853 --> 01:43:06,893
Speaker 3: it's just like a psychology thing. Maybe you know, you

2021
01:43:07,013 --> 01:43:08,653
Speaker 3: just have an afternoon of catch and practice and the

2022
01:43:09,893 --> 01:43:14,133
Speaker 3: h Pencelin the diary somehow something like that. Yes, very good,

2023
01:43:14,213 --> 01:43:16,373
Speaker 3: looking forward to it, sir. Thank you. Elliot Smith with

2024
01:43:16,493 --> 01:43:18,453
Speaker 3: us for a weekend sport. Right after the twelve o'clock

2025
01:43:18,493 --> 01:43:20,613
Speaker 3: news on Newstalks, he'd be before midday we got that

2026
01:43:20,733 --> 01:43:23,733
Speaker 3: new music from Keywi artist Asia, and next up I'm

2027
01:43:23,733 --> 01:43:26,093
Speaker 3: going to tell you about Jeremy Clarkson's brand new book.

2028
01:43:26,733 --> 01:43:29,373
Speaker 2: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

2029
01:43:29,533 --> 01:43:33,013
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and bepewured on cot Z

2030
01:43:33,253 --> 01:43:36,253
Speaker 1: for high Quality Supplements, News talksb.

2031
01:43:37,053 --> 01:43:39,493
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve on News Talks. He'd be Katherine Rains, our

2032
01:43:39,533 --> 01:43:42,173
Speaker 3: book reviewers. Here is she is every Saturday morning with

2033
01:43:42,293 --> 01:43:45,453
Speaker 3: her picks for the weekend. Hey Catherine, good morning Jack. Okay,

2034
01:43:45,773 --> 01:43:48,933
Speaker 3: let's start off with the Cat who Cracked a Cold

2035
01:43:49,053 --> 01:43:50,813
Speaker 3: Case by LT Shearer.

2036
01:43:51,533 --> 01:43:53,813
Speaker 22: So this is a little bit bizarre maybe, and you do,

2037
01:43:53,933 --> 01:43:56,253
Speaker 22: of course have to suspend a lot of reality for this.

2038
01:43:56,573 --> 01:44:00,093
Speaker 22: But it follows Lulu Lewis, who's a retired police detective

2039
01:44:00,693 --> 01:44:03,973
Speaker 22: and life takes a very unforgettable turn for her when Conrad,

2040
01:44:04,013 --> 01:44:06,373
Speaker 22: who's a very special talking catch, turns up into her

2041
01:44:06,653 --> 01:44:09,453
Speaker 22: life and he introduces himself to her, and so, for

2042
01:44:09,533 --> 01:44:13,093
Speaker 22: fairly obvious reasons, this ability remains a very closely guarded

2043
01:44:13,173 --> 01:44:15,093
Speaker 22: secret and they enjoy their lives together. They live on

2044
01:44:15,133 --> 01:44:17,333
Speaker 22: a canal boat called the Lark, and it's this very

2045
01:44:17,413 --> 01:44:20,533
Speaker 22: easy companionship, but Lulu has this very keen investigative eye,

2046
01:44:20,573 --> 01:44:24,093
Speaker 22: and you follow Conrad the cat's very witty feline quips.

2047
01:44:24,173 --> 01:44:27,413
Speaker 22: And in their latest escapage, there's several mysteries rolled up

2048
01:44:27,453 --> 01:44:29,973
Speaker 22: into one, and so a serial killer from Lulu's past

2049
01:44:30,013 --> 01:44:32,853
Speaker 22: who's murdered again, but this time in Manchester, away from

2050
01:44:32,893 --> 01:44:35,413
Speaker 22: her home in London, and a theft of some very

2051
01:44:35,533 --> 01:44:39,173
Speaker 22: expensive figurines stolen from a fellow canal boat owner who's

2052
01:44:39,213 --> 01:44:41,613
Speaker 22: completely heartbroken about this as they had been given to

2053
01:44:41,693 --> 01:44:45,173
Speaker 22: her by her late husband. And there's this very mysterious

2054
01:44:45,213 --> 01:44:48,533
Speaker 22: suitor who is pursuing Lulu's widowed friend Jane, and so

2055
01:44:48,693 --> 01:44:51,573
Speaker 22: Lulu and Conrad helped to solve all of these three

2056
01:44:51,693 --> 01:44:55,053
Speaker 22: places along with the local police, and she discusses clues

2057
01:44:55,133 --> 01:44:57,533
Speaker 22: with the cat and he's kind of really almost like

2058
01:44:57,613 --> 01:45:01,533
Speaker 22: her alter ogo ego sorry, as she's solving them. And yeah,

2059
01:45:01,573 --> 01:45:03,573
Speaker 22: I don't I'm not really a fan of talking books

2060
01:45:03,613 --> 01:45:07,133
Speaker 22: and animals, but somehow talking animals and but somehow this

2061
01:45:07,613 --> 01:45:10,653
Speaker 22: really works together, and you get this very well constructed

2062
01:45:10,813 --> 01:45:13,813
Speaker 22: plot and all this strands come together and the observations

2063
01:45:13,853 --> 01:45:17,093
Speaker 22: make a really enjoyable story. And it's terms what's called

2064
01:45:17,093 --> 01:45:19,413
Speaker 22: in the books terms what is called now cozy crime,

2065
01:45:19,493 --> 01:45:21,893
Speaker 22: but it has that engaging plot and Conrad really is

2066
01:45:21,933 --> 01:45:24,253
Speaker 22: the star of the book. And it's funny and entertaining

2067
01:45:24,333 --> 01:45:26,973
Speaker 22: with crime thrown in there for good mix.

2068
01:45:27,173 --> 01:45:29,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, cool. So that's The Cat who Cracked a

2069
01:45:30,013 --> 01:45:33,373
Speaker 3: Cold Case by Lt. Shearer. At the very least, it's

2070
01:45:33,413 --> 01:45:36,693
Speaker 3: the title. It's fun to say, isn't it. Next up,

2071
01:45:36,893 --> 01:45:40,573
Speaker 3: tell Us about Diddley Squat Home to Roost by Jeremy Clarkson.

2072
01:45:41,373 --> 01:45:44,813
Speaker 22: So this is a collection of Jeremy Clarkson's columns from

2073
01:45:44,853 --> 01:45:47,773
Speaker 22: the UK Sunday Times, but actually most new Zealanders would

2074
01:45:47,773 --> 01:45:51,973
Speaker 22: recognize the stories from his Amazon Prime TV series, and

2075
01:45:52,093 --> 01:45:54,053
Speaker 22: he focuses a little bit on this, on that whole

2076
01:45:54,213 --> 01:45:57,893
Speaker 22: suffocation of the rural kind of spirit and planning departments

2077
01:45:57,933 --> 01:46:02,453
Speaker 22: and national park authorities and environmentalists. But beneath all the

2078
01:46:02,573 --> 01:46:06,013
Speaker 22: kind of funny moments and the banter you have his

2079
01:46:06,693 --> 01:46:10,253
Speaker 22: and it's clear that he cares deeply about the country side.

2080
01:46:10,333 --> 01:46:12,413
Speaker 22: And you know, he does point out that if he

2081
01:46:12,533 --> 01:46:15,813
Speaker 22: wasn't backed by Amazon's millions, he would, like many farmers

2082
01:46:16,013 --> 01:46:18,093
Speaker 22: in the UK and around the world, be close to

2083
01:46:18,253 --> 01:46:22,093
Speaker 22: the end of his wits, really, you know, waif of

2084
01:46:22,173 --> 01:46:25,733
Speaker 22: thin profit margins and endless regulation. And he also talks

2085
01:46:25,813 --> 01:46:28,133
Speaker 22: quite a bit actually about the mental health problem and

2086
01:46:28,253 --> 01:46:30,413
Speaker 22: farming and actually he doesn't really talk about this in

2087
01:46:30,493 --> 01:46:32,893
Speaker 22: the book, but he's done very good work and highlighting it.

2088
01:46:32,973 --> 01:46:35,893
Speaker 22: But actually he also funds a charitable helpline for farmers

2089
01:46:35,973 --> 01:46:37,613
Speaker 22: in need of support, so he kind of puts his

2090
01:46:37,773 --> 01:46:40,773
Speaker 22: money where his mouth is. But the book's funny. You know.

2091
01:46:40,893 --> 01:46:44,253
Speaker 22: He talks about his right hand man, Caleb Cooper, who's

2092
01:46:44,293 --> 01:46:46,853
Speaker 22: the farm manager, and his girlfriend Lisa, and he has

2093
01:46:46,893 --> 01:46:50,893
Speaker 22: his accountant Charlie, and Gerald, his termed head of security

2094
01:46:50,973 --> 01:46:54,133
Speaker 22: with his very thick accent, and you know, you get

2095
01:46:54,173 --> 01:46:58,813
Speaker 22: the uncoperative weather in the realities of the agricultural economy,

2096
01:46:58,973 --> 01:47:01,173
Speaker 22: and the local planning department, which of course has been

2097
01:47:01,213 --> 01:47:03,653
Speaker 22: the bane of his life through many seasons, and the

2098
01:47:03,733 --> 01:47:06,453
Speaker 22: farm shop which is doing a completely rawing trade and

2099
01:47:06,533 --> 01:47:09,653
Speaker 22: people queue for hours to buy all sorts of things.

2100
01:47:10,093 --> 01:47:12,213
Speaker 22: But back on the farm, it's this kind of season

2101
01:47:12,293 --> 01:47:15,093
Speaker 22: of disaster almost and you know this year they focus

2102
01:47:15,173 --> 01:47:17,333
Speaker 22: on chickens and mushrooms and oats, and of course not

2103
01:47:17,413 --> 01:47:19,933
Speaker 22: everything goes to plan or even close to a plan. Yeah,

2104
01:47:20,133 --> 01:47:22,493
Speaker 22: but yeah, as I said, what's very evident is how

2105
01:47:22,573 --> 01:47:25,413
Speaker 22: much he and his partner Lisa care very much about

2106
01:47:25,453 --> 01:47:28,213
Speaker 22: the farm and its success, but also the success of

2107
01:47:28,253 --> 01:47:30,173
Speaker 22: the people around them and the farmers around them, and

2108
01:47:30,213 --> 01:47:33,013
Speaker 22: they always want to very much engage with the people

2109
01:47:33,053 --> 01:47:34,933
Speaker 22: who are close to them and help support them as well.

2110
01:47:35,013 --> 01:47:37,733
Speaker 22: And yeah, great stories and very funny and told with

2111
01:47:37,813 --> 01:47:40,653
Speaker 22: that wit and humor that Jeremy Clarkson is well known for.

2112
01:47:40,893 --> 01:47:42,293
Speaker 3: So how funny is it.

2113
01:47:44,173 --> 01:47:47,333
Speaker 22: He talks, because he talks very well with the banter

2114
01:47:47,493 --> 01:47:50,493
Speaker 22: that he's so good at. So he's funny but informative.

2115
01:47:50,613 --> 01:47:52,293
Speaker 22: Is probably the best way of you know, he doesn't

2116
01:47:52,293 --> 01:47:54,773
Speaker 22: get really dry and into the detail, but he kind

2117
01:47:54,813 --> 01:47:58,053
Speaker 22: of has a message and gets his point across about

2118
01:47:58,293 --> 01:48:00,973
Speaker 22: red tape and planning and how difficult that makes it,

2119
01:48:01,133 --> 01:48:02,453
Speaker 22: but told in his kind of.

2120
01:48:02,853 --> 01:48:05,293
Speaker 3: Style, typical Clark's and esque style.

2121
01:48:05,733 --> 01:48:08,333
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, it kind of almost makes it lighthearted, but

2122
01:48:08,413 --> 01:48:10,333
Speaker 22: there's a very serious message and along with.

2123
01:48:10,333 --> 01:48:12,653
Speaker 3: What is yeah as well, Yeah a very good that's

2124
01:48:12,733 --> 01:48:13,053
Speaker 3: the show.

2125
01:48:13,413 --> 01:48:15,573
Speaker 10: As the show puts across, you're a fan of the show,

2126
01:48:15,733 --> 01:48:17,093
Speaker 10: he does it very well in that as well.

2127
01:48:17,173 --> 01:48:19,813
Speaker 3: Yeah it's yeah, yeah, very good. Nice. Okay. That's Diddley

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Speaker 3: be website and a couple of minutes, we've got new

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Speaker 3: music from you can we artist Asia and her debut

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Speaker 3: album Kawai.

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Speaker 2: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

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Speaker 2: Us Saturday Mornings.

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Speaker 1: With Jack Dame and bpewre dot co dots for high

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Speaker 2: News talks that'd be.

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Speaker 3: Say anything any women, Let's shoot up a fun las.

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Speaker 3: The song is called quiet Storm. It's by key We

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Speaker 3: artist Asia. She's won all sorts of awards and has

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Speaker 3: played all sorts of festivals over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 3: but this is her debut album. The album's called car

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Speaker 3: Why and the Stell Clifford our Music Review has been

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Speaker 3: listening more than Kilda.

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Speaker 10: Doesn't she have a stellar, beautiful voice?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Amazing that voice, Yeah, gorgeous.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Just pure escapism, I think is what this album is.

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Speaker 13: And it always astounds me that we have so many

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Speaker 13: artists in this country who have voices like that, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Talent like that.

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Speaker 10: They've done backing vocals for this, they've featured with us

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Speaker 10: artist and then, you know, however, many.

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Speaker 13: Years or decades into their career, we get their debut

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Speaker 13: album totally totally, you know, And I think that what

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Speaker 13: that says to me about this album is it's been

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Speaker 13: thought through very well. It's not a want to get

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Speaker 13: an album in the can and deliver you something. It's

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Speaker 13: like I want to put.

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Speaker 10: My heart and soul into Yeah, it really is quiet Storm.

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Speaker 13: I mean, you know, such as life, but I think

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Speaker 13: this is a real fusion of sounds it's a real

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Speaker 13: great showcase of.

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Speaker 10: Blended cultures and influences in life like many of us.

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Speaker 13: She's tell Marty and she's tell Pakiha and so to

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Speaker 13: blend that in your subject matter but also in how

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Speaker 13: you approach music, it's really quite a beautiful thing to

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Speaker 13: come together.

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Speaker 10: So I love that she has this bilingual album, but

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Speaker 10: it's not just the language, you.

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Speaker 13: Know, it's the experiences and how you view the world

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Speaker 13: through those different parts of your famo, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 13: And she does that beautiful spoken word thing that that

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Speaker 13: song where Quiet Storm is a collaboration with Paornikki mc

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Speaker 13: ma so it has that kind of groovy soul funk

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Speaker 13: DJ kind of thing about it, and she has a

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Speaker 13: big spoken word intro, which again I think elaborates on

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Speaker 13: that escapism when you fall into somebody's voice and then

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Speaker 13: into that beautiful singing.

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Speaker 2: That she does.

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Speaker 13: I think there's some really cute little bits some tracks

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Speaker 13: that are like thirty seconds to a minute, and they're

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Speaker 13: actually snippets of her children tumbad a key, you know,

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Speaker 13: and they're like they're doing some talking around the kitchen

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Speaker 13: table or wherever it is that this album is the

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Speaker 13: last bits of productionist sort of coming together and everyday

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Speaker 13: home conversations that have become part.

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Speaker 10: Of the tapestry of the album.

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Speaker 13: And again that's what it's about, right, It's about lineage

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Speaker 13: and life and home and every experience that you can have.

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Speaker 10: So I think that's got a really emotionive bass.

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Speaker 3: It's really it's got kind of an ethereal it's going

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Speaker 3: to kind of ethereal vibe.

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Speaker 13: From what I've had absolutely, and I think that's a

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Speaker 13: bit for me that says that it's there to escapism.

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Speaker 10: You can go with that kind of you. There's like

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Speaker 10: that hum in the etheral kind of music.

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Speaker 13: Yep, it's like a surging it's kind of always are

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Speaker 13: undertone of many of the songs, and so yeah, I

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Speaker 13: think that's that ether all kind of thing, and her

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Speaker 13: voice can sit really a top of that. There's that

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Speaker 13: indigenous sometimes kind of sound to the music, soul, there's

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Speaker 13: a bit of electro pop, and then soundscapes that come

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Speaker 13: in behind the music, and then of course you've got

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Speaker 13: all the actual lyrics, which is storytelling and relationships and

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Speaker 13: all that beautiful stuff that you know. I think our

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Speaker 13: New Zealand artists are actually really amazing at delivering Oh yeah,

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Speaker 13: and the process of making this music, you know, like

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Speaker 13: some of these songs have actually she's actually some of

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Speaker 13: the songs on the album have been out for a

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Speaker 13: few years. But then to make them into this cohesive

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Speaker 13: body of work I think is a really beautiful thing.

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Speaker 10: And I love this here I grabbed this off her Instagram.

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Speaker 13: She said it was about creating memories, sharing stories, opening

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Speaker 13: the door to our life with Fano at the center

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Speaker 13: of it all. And what a time of year to

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Speaker 13: remind ourselves that is what we are about. And yeah,

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Speaker 13: just put this on and enjoy it. Maybe it's later

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Speaker 13: in the day and you've got a nice glass of

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Speaker 13: wine with you, or maybe it is while you're setting

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Speaker 13: up the Christmas tree or whatever you're getting onto in

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Speaker 13: the weekend. A little sideline, you know, to have this, Yeah,

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Speaker 13: just sort of beautifully in the in the background or

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Speaker 13: maybe in the forefront of your day. I think that's

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Speaker 13: what this album can do for you. I think it

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Speaker 13: can be there in the background, or you can embrace

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Speaker 13: it fullyverge yourself into that bilingual language, do you know.

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Speaker 13: I also think with these albums, you don't necessarily have

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Speaker 13: to be able to spect it on Marty. There will

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Speaker 13: be elements of it that you will capture and embrace

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Speaker 13: for yourself, whether you fully understand all the words, and

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Speaker 13: maybe it'll make you delve into finding out the meaning

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Speaker 13: behind some of those words.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, absolutely, Okay, sounds great, sounds really good. So

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Speaker 3: what did you give?

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Speaker 10: I'm just going to go straight out there with the

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Speaker 10: queene and say, let's give it a ten.

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Speaker 3: Very good, Okay.

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Speaker 10: I really respect what she has put together on this album.

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Speaker 3: Nice Okay. Well, I'm looking forward to having a bit

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Speaker 3: more of a listen in a couple of minutes. We

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Speaker 3: will catch you again next week. Sell Hastelle Covid is

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Speaker 3: a music reviewer ten out of ten for Kawai by Asia.

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Speaker 3: We'll pick a good track to play you to close

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Speaker 3: out the show.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 3: us for another Saturday morning together on new talks. But

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Speaker 3: Elliott Smith will be here in a few minutes. For now, though,

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Speaker 3: we are going to leave you with Asia. Her new

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Speaker 3: album worth ten out of ten is car Why. According

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Speaker 3: to our music with viewer stell Clifford, this song is

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Speaker 3: called core Petty. I will see you very soon.

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Speaker 3: We weave the Call.

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Speaker 17: Stories, writ.

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Speaker 3: High, the.

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Speaker 9: Stories bec.

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