Speaker 1: This is an iHeartRadio New Zealand podcast Out the Gate
Speaker 1: with Maddie McLean, Chris Henry and Brad Christensen.
Speaker 2: Cheer, nice to be bet. It's nice to be back,
Speaker 2: isn't it. It's the Two Musketeers though, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if if we if he was
Speaker 1: our employee, I'd be having words to him. Are regon
Speaker 1: to be a written warning? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does have a good excuse tonight though, because
Speaker 2: what's he doing is he's going to an awards dinner
Speaker 2: for the Rainbow game. Yeah, and he thought of the.
Speaker 1: Gay he thought it was tomorrow night, but it's actually tonight.
Speaker 1: We got sent to photo do you think so we
Speaker 1: got seen a photo in the group chat of bread
Speaker 1: dressed up in attacks obviously at Dons's house. Is mum's house?
Speaker 1: Do you think Don's took that photo? Like there's a
Speaker 1: proud mum photo and.
Speaker 2: If you zoom in, like the zoom into a space
Speaker 2: like he's got a real like seventh from Ball sort
Speaker 2: of he does, like he said, a couple of Cody's
Speaker 2: and he's ready to guy.
Speaker 1: We'll put it, We'll put it up on We'll put
Speaker 1: it up on Instagram. And Facebook. Yeah, but yes, so
Speaker 1: Bread is away tonight. He's busy, He's got fingers and
Speaker 1: a lot of pies. Does Bread he does?
Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose this is a good excuse for
Speaker 2: this this week, because he is doing something for the
Speaker 2: LGBT community.
Speaker 1: Sure we'll give it to him.
Speaker 2: I mean, a pert from obviously providing all of the
Speaker 2: deck news you'd ever need in.
Speaker 1: A age, and what a service we provide. Absolutely. Can
Speaker 1: I start the podcast tonight with a little bit of
Speaker 1: a shout out? Yes? Absolutely. I got a message today
Speaker 1: from my brother and my brother said, so, my brother
Speaker 1: Rob lives in La now Yeah, yeah, yeah, he won
Speaker 1: the Green Card lottery and he works for a cop,
Speaker 1: isn't he just he honestly, he lives in Venice Beach.
Speaker 1: A he's a semi bachelor. Well, he is seeing someone,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, early days in American dating, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're allowed to do it for a wee while
Speaker 1: not to but the videos get of him, like skateboarding
Speaker 1: down the boardwalk in Venice Beach with his top off,
Speaker 1: this crazy tan. He just is living the life over there. Anyway.
Speaker 1: He got a message from someone that he previously worked
Speaker 1: at the same company as him, but I don't from
Speaker 1: reading the message, I don't think they'd ever interacted, Like
Speaker 1: they never met. They obviously worked in different teams. But
Speaker 1: this guy messaged Rob. And unfortunately, the guy has just
Speaker 1: lost his job. They've had a bunch of redundancies at
Speaker 1: this company. There's so many companies are right now, so
Speaker 1: he's lost his job and he reached out to Rob
Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, Rob, now that we're no longer
Speaker 1: co workers and there's little chance of us ever meeting,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I've been listening to
Speaker 1: your brother's podcast Out the Gate religiously for the last
Speaker 1: year Kilna, he said. He said, it has become part
Speaker 1: of my Wednesday bike commute. So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: won't say this guy's name just in case he wants
Speaker 1: to keep, you know, some privacy, but he will be
Speaker 1: on his commute potentially listening to this right now in
Speaker 1: his like and his like maybe in his like Crah,
Speaker 1: and he will know who he is. So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to let this gay to know that we really
Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to the podcast absolutely. And is he
Speaker 1: based in America too? This guy, he's based in America
Speaker 1: as well, oh, we love an instance. We've got it.
Speaker 1: We've got an American gator.
Speaker 2: Kilda welcome, I hope that well, thank you for participating
Speaker 2: in our little smutty corner of the internet.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to give a little bit of
Speaker 1: a shot because we love, we love meeting gators in
Speaker 1: the wild, and we love hearing about gatas in the wild.
Speaker 2: So absolutely speaking of that now we're away. Last week,
Speaker 2: the winter els and shells just got us us.
Speaker 1: It got us. It was just it was just not
Speaker 1: our day. The stars were not aligning.
Speaker 2: But before that we are well, idn't think all of
Speaker 2: us because Brad wasn't there, but all the wags and
Speaker 2: us went to mis Behavior.
Speaker 1: What tonight we had a couple of amazing gators in
Speaker 1: the world, so did I. But I were lovely. I
Speaker 1: do remember meeting one. I remember having a I remember
Speaker 1: having a conversation about the podcast. I was definitely a
Speaker 1: fear few drinks deep at that point, can imagine, so
Speaker 1: the conversation is hazy, but I do remember having a
Speaker 1: conversation with gator at Misbehavior. I definitely remember this as well.
Speaker 2: I did my really famous thing where I often asked
Speaker 2: them what their name is and then have no recollection.
Speaker 2: Was but you're not to sound like an old man.
Speaker 2: You're a lovely young man and I'm so pleased that
Speaker 2: you're part of the podcast.
Speaker 1: Was probably it was possibly the same It was possibly
Speaker 1: the same one.
Speaker 2: Possibly, yeah, who knows it was It was late in
Speaker 2: the evening.
Speaker 1: Misbehavior was so much fun. I know we're going over
Speaker 1: territory from a couple of weeks ago because we missed
Speaker 1: last week's, but it was Misbehavior was so much fun.
Speaker 2: It was it was so much we happy with how
Speaker 2: it win, really happy. It was just the venue was
Speaker 2: called the vibe was awesome. I was great, such a
Speaker 2: great time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I turned up in a short sleeve shirt with
Speaker 1: I had three buttons undone, but by the end of
Speaker 1: the night all the buttons were undone. No buttons for you,
Speaker 1: And I do wonder from previous experience how much you
Speaker 1: had to do with the lack of buttons by the
Speaker 1: end of the night. I think they definitely helped with
Speaker 1: a couple of the buttons. Yeah, right, it was so much.
Speaker 2: I think it's my party trick. It's the thing that way.
Speaker 2: I wake up with a little bit of anxiety the
Speaker 2: next day where.
Speaker 1: I'm like a little bit too. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think I wrapped it off. No, no, no, no no, the
Speaker 1: buttons were still intact.
Speaker 2: But I definitely was like, oh no, no, no, it
Speaker 2: is not having any other Yeah.
Speaker 1: But it was. It was great. Someone did say just
Speaker 1: a little piece of feedback that they enjoy. They've they
Speaker 1: enjoy pashing on the dance floor, maybe more than one person,
Speaker 1: but it was not dark enough for them to feel
Speaker 1: like they could go and do the passion and the
Speaker 1: good feedback. So we need a dark area where you
Speaker 1: could pesh back.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, so there you go. Just something to
Speaker 2: think about film Ali. Yeah, but it was safe. For
Speaker 2: the record, it didn't stop lots of.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm sure it didn't.
Speaker 2: There was definitely there was. There were lips left right
Speaker 2: in the center. I was like, whoa, we had the
Speaker 2: best time. I think it's going like this Little Boys
Speaker 2: Paradise as well, when it's sort of giving and you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to watch this going on.
Speaker 1: No, we had a great time. So let this be
Speaker 1: a lesson to you. If you missed this last miss behavior,
Speaker 1: do not miss the next one.
Speaker 2: We do one more in November, so you've heard it
Speaker 2: here first. It's gonna be one in November. It'll come
Speaker 2: out in the next week or so. I think I'll
Speaker 2: put the dates out right, but we will, we will
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Was our friend was our friend there, our friend, our
Speaker 1: performer friend who's been has performed at previous misbehaviors. He
Speaker 1: was there. I don't think I swam.
Speaker 2: No, he was definitely their Ghosha. He'd done his he
Speaker 2: done his work at club. Men of steel came across
Speaker 2: to help. No, he was definitely there, very helpful. What
Speaker 2: was he were, lady friends? I think it was a
Speaker 2: sort of a little bit of a g string at
Speaker 2: one stage, more like a leather jacket at one point.
Speaker 1: Missed out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sort of surprising to light. You were too
Speaker 2: busy watching all the passion.
Speaker 1: A true story, true story, true and unbuttoning my share, yes, allegedly,
Speaker 1: but no, a lot of.
Speaker 2: Fun and yeah, thanks everyone for coming and coming and
Speaker 2: play along with us.
Speaker 1: Do you how do you feel do you enjoy going
Speaker 1: to those like do you feel like you can have
Speaker 1: fun and relax and enjoy those things?
Speaker 2: Or you have definitely got to the stage now where
Speaker 2: I do. I mean, you've got a this is probably
Speaker 2: a bit boring. We have to keep a certain level
Speaker 2: of awareness around you. I'll give you an example. Just
Speaker 2: before the end of the night, we had our only
Speaker 2: sort of security slash disorder of the evenings.
Speaker 1: It was a very minor one.
Speaker 2: It was it was a something actually knew personally who
Speaker 2: maybe had a couple too many cans of crocacola and
Speaker 2: decided that using their power of argument was going to
Speaker 2: be how they would get themselves out of a situation
Speaker 2: with one of the bar staff, which never goes down
Speaker 2: with I think once you have starving conversation with someone
Speaker 2: at the bar and they're you're not agreeing, it's time
Speaker 2: just to cut your loss so totally.
Speaker 1: But I have also been the person that has decided
Speaker 1: to argue and yeah, you're you're never in the winning
Speaker 1: situation that you've kind of lost before it even starts.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And there was one point where that happened where
Speaker 2: I had to go and just quickly intervene for a
Speaker 2: brief moment. And I realized as I was going to
Speaker 2: intervene that I was wearing a short pair of pink
Speaker 2: shorts and note top, and I was like, do you
Speaker 2: know what I think I'm like to throw. I think
Speaker 2: I might throw a single back on again, just just.
Speaker 1: With this one.
Speaker 2: I shout out to the bar stuff for not really
Speaker 2: making up my problem, but and to this poor I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether there's together or not.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming along, and sorry that you and
Speaker 2: I ended up slightly earlier than.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of homosexuals there, obviously, not that
Speaker 1: it's just not that it's only for the for the homos,
Speaker 1: but there were a lot of them there. And then
Speaker 1: the next day, a little bit hungover, I got invited
Speaker 1: to a new activity by a guy that I know,
Speaker 1: and I went along, and all of a sudden, I thought,
Speaker 1: is this the new gay hobby or activity? This is
Speaker 1: not sort of a list of lock and cack on
Speaker 1: sort of no, no, no, no, no, this was no. This
Speaker 1: was like afternoon on the Sunday after this behavior. What
Speaker 1: is activity? We went rock climbing. We went to an
Speaker 1: indoor rock climbing wall.
Speaker 2: Wow, And first of all, readit with Credit's Joe, that
Speaker 2: is very impressive.
Speaker 1: After a few beverages the night before, I agreed, agreed,
Speaker 1: but I thought I need to peel myself off the
Speaker 1: couch and do something today. And I've been complaining to
Speaker 1: Ryan that I haven't been putting enough effort into friends,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's a hard one, very easy to just say, oh,
Speaker 1: thanks for the invite, but I'm busy, or I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm never busy. I'm actually just come fucked. I've
Speaker 1: got a husband and and warm at home, and Emily
Speaker 1: in Paris has just dropped like five new episodes on Netflix.
Speaker 1: So I'm just side note. Is the hot guy that
Speaker 1: was her boyfriend? Is he's doing it? There's two yes,
Speaker 1: which one are you talking about? One that owned the
Speaker 1: chef one, Yeah, he's doing it. But I'm actually I'm
Speaker 1: team Alfie, the guy from London, really definitely in this anyway,
Speaker 1: Sorry I digress. So yes, So I thought I could
Speaker 1: easily say no, and this would be the perfect excuse,
Speaker 1: an opportunity to say no, hungover on a Sunday. But
Speaker 1: I went along and I turned up and there was
Speaker 1: a parade of homosexuals at this indoor climbing wall, and
Speaker 1: I thought, is this the innuactivity for gam end.
Speaker 2: Well, we only talked only a couple of weeks on
Speaker 2: the podcast about the rising gay sports off the back
Speaker 2: of the Rainbow Game.
Speaker 1: And this is really where Brad should be coming out
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 2: I know, maybe rock climbing should be part of the
Speaker 2: Rainbow Games twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I swear every like every week I'm seeing a new group,
Speaker 1: a new gay sport group emerging. Now is it has
Speaker 1: very So I race it. So I got the air.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've ever been to an
Speaker 1: indoor climbing wall before, not since I was a child.
Speaker 1: So this is one where you're not like, you're not
Speaker 1: you're not strapped in. It's not like we're not talking
Speaker 1: ropes and caribbeaners and no, no, no, ironically no, So
Speaker 1: this is just a free for all, like you're you're
Speaker 1: just left to your own devices. So they're not big
Speaker 1: walls obviously because you can't have them too high up
Speaker 1: because health and safety. So I was looking at these walls, going,
Speaker 1: this is so small, like, surely anyone can do this,
Speaker 1: This is so easy. No, it is so hard. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even imagine. Your body has to contort and stretch
Speaker 1: itself into positions I'm not used to believe it or not. No,
Speaker 1: marriage you take the easy route, don't you really easy route?
Speaker 1: I should say, and so I was like on this
Speaker 1: wall trying to like because also famously very competitive, yes,
Speaker 1: and so it was desperately trying to like get my
Speaker 1: weight clamber my way up this wall, and some of
Speaker 1: them were so so hard. And then I got off
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, no one, surely no one can
Speaker 1: do this. And then this little kid, like this seven
Speaker 1: year old kid just bowls up to the wall and
Speaker 1: just monkey like climbs up this wall and put like
Speaker 1: shows me up something chronic. I was so embarrassed. But
Speaker 1: it was really really fun. And we've been we've talked
Speaker 1: on this podcast previously about new hobbies. I don't know
Speaker 1: that I'm going to go to the climbing war every
Speaker 1: week or anything, but it was really fun to do,
Speaker 1: especially with a group of like group of guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 2: To make some sort of like grandiose statement like that
Speaker 2: sounds fun, I'd be into it.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've got the strength for it. Like
Speaker 1: how how sore was you? Bo on? The forearms were
Speaker 1: burning my hands like I've still got callouses on my hands.
Speaker 1: But it was fun. I really enjoyed doing it.
Speaker 2: Well good on you for I mean this in the
Speaker 2: least patronizing way possible. Good on you for walking the talk,
Speaker 2: getting out there, giving it a go. Thank you very much,
Speaker 2: and I hope to see more stories of you out
Speaker 2: and about competing.
Speaker 1: And you heard it here first the gays to rock climber.
Speaker 1: They love to climb. The guys of sport aigle man.
Speaker 2: In this town, you'd be you'd really be a fat one,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you heet with all these gay sports to go.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of my husband and another wag together swimming
Speaker 1: right now. Really they've doing their first session with the Tans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Auckland gay swim group. Amazing. So this is actually
Speaker 1: this is actually bringing some thoughts back.
Speaker 2: This is actually a drinken misbehavior conversation about being about
Speaker 2: being part of this in the ocean swimming.
Speaker 1: The tams are quite fun, really fun. Ryan did say
Speaker 1: he was a little bit nervous. You know what it's
Speaker 1: like when you're especially when you're an adult and you're
Speaker 1: like joining this new group. Hopefully he was a little
Speaker 1: bit nervous about it, but I'm very eager to hear
Speaker 1: how it wins, and I'm sure he'll love it. Plus,
Speaker 1: it's also one of these things where it's like once
Speaker 1: you're in the water, You're kind of just doing your
Speaker 1: own thing anyway, really, aren't you.
Speaker 2: And also I feel like sometimes when you're doing that stuff,
Speaker 2: it's almost about just getting in there and doing it,
Speaker 2: and the adrenaline of like having to keep up with
Speaker 2: everyone just sort of makes it all happen as biical
Speaker 2: down there as when Beca's there as well.
Speaker 1: Two of them have gone a lot, rocked along together
Speaker 1: to join the tams fun. I know good in them
Speaker 1: And how are you. I'm really good?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm I'm on the back end of being good.
Speaker 2: We had a pretty grim weekend at our household. We
Speaker 2: picked up a little bit of the old gastro. So
Speaker 2: I know that our gators will be right into this
Speaker 2: because I know many of the gators have got children,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like it's very much a ride of
Speaker 2: passage you've got kids, especially.
Speaker 1: Ones that go to daycare.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we went out and Saturday night had a
Speaker 2: really good time snear. The end of the night, we
Speaker 2: were like congratulating ourselves.
Speaker 1: Matt and I were like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've played this really well. We've been to one
Speaker 2: of Matt's work events. We're not going to be that hungover.
Speaker 2: We're in the uber on the way home. Matt's like,
Speaker 2: I don't feel very goos and I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well we'll.
Speaker 1: Be home soon.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we get home, make it into bed for about
Speaker 2: three and a half minutes and he's up and that
Speaker 2: is just him for the night, vomiting and all of
Speaker 2: the works. And then I joined in about sex in
Speaker 2: the morning, and yeah, it was horrific, a solid twenty
Speaker 2: four hours of just being absolutely like just grossly ill.
Speaker 1: Do you know what it would have been? Well, I
Speaker 1: think it was guestro. Well, it's two parts.
Speaker 2: One obviously he's involved in the education system, so that's
Speaker 2: I've got yes, spectly, and then had another couple of
Speaker 2: friends that had been sick as well. But it sounds
Speaker 2: like it's really during the rounds at the moment. But
Speaker 2: we did actually come out of the weekend all two parts.
Speaker 2: First of all, we came out of the weekend still together,
Speaker 2: which I think is all also, which is a great thing. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're sick, well you really are seeing
Speaker 1: each other at you you're very very.
Speaker 2: Lowest, and it's it's when someone is sick and you
Speaker 2: live in a smaller s house.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's an audio visual experience.
Speaker 2: H Yeah, there are things I heard and things that
Speaker 2: I saw. Yeah, and so two parts one we were
Speaker 2: obviously we managed to be nice enough to each other
Speaker 2: across the course of the weekend. Who did like, did
Speaker 2: you get to did you have to take it in
Speaker 2: turns to be the the hero?
Speaker 1: Well? Yes and no, I think to be.
Speaker 2: I'll lay it down on the table. I think he
Speaker 2: had it worse than I did. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 2: it definitely got me.
Speaker 1: But I the I don't.
Speaker 2: Be too gross because I can appreciate this early in
Speaker 2: the morning for some people different times that were people
Speaker 2: listening to this. But my physical symptoms didn't last as
Speaker 2: long as his dad. Right, But we still felt pretty awful,
Speaker 2: I because I went second.
Speaker 1: I did some like some Lord's work early in the
Speaker 1: battle solid yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then as we were coming right the back end
Speaker 2: of it, so to speak, I definitely picked up at
Speaker 2: the mental and.
Speaker 1: It's horrible the way I had it last year, and
Speaker 1: I don't I couldn't tell you the last time I
Speaker 1: really got sick click there, and it was awful getting
Speaker 1: a couple of kilos down. It's true, she's feeling she's
Speaker 1: feeling slim. That's true.
Speaker 2: But the one thing that was very that was interesting
Speaker 2: about it, or we we sort of reminisced about it's
Speaker 2: not often when you've been dating someone for a while
Speaker 2: that you get to have like a first with someone,
Speaker 2: you know, like one of those.
Speaker 1: Sort of yeah kind of like oh wow, we've never
Speaker 1: done this before.
Speaker 2: Yep, ye might happened sort of about four am on
Speaker 2: Sunday morning when I hit a cry from the bathroom
Speaker 2: of I vomited on the floor and I had to
Speaker 2: get up and I cleaned the volet off the floor
Speaker 2: because he couldn't himself.
Speaker 1: That's love, Yeah, there is love and love you babe,
Speaker 1: stronger for it? Do you think? Absolutely? Yeah, Well I'm glad,
Speaker 1: glad to know that you made it through. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're fighting. We're fighting for it now. Although did have
Speaker 1: a great situation so is you're no.
Speaker 2: We record this podcast on its Tuesday, so I had
Speaker 2: to down for it yesterday because I felt awful and
Speaker 2: b I was like, there's no way that I'm taking
Speaker 2: this to work with me because this I'm not giving this.
Speaker 1: Anyone is a stay and we're never no one else
Speaker 1: is allowed to have no, no, no, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it on the podcast and then we'll never mention it again.
Speaker 2: I got a I did a round to a wan
Speaker 2: of work today and I said, oh, I will give
Speaker 2: you a hug. But I've been kidstro But the weekend
Speaker 2: it was fucking like old COVID days.
Speaker 1: She couldn't have gone away from me. I really appreciate that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go have got one by Chris and I
Speaker 1: see you. Bye bye bye bye bye bye. Bite. Hey
Speaker 1: some sad gay news today or gay adjacent news. You
Speaker 1: may remember the amazing story of the same sex penguin
Speaker 1: power couple in Australia.
Speaker 2: Now I've seen the top line of it this, but
Speaker 2: I haven't read about it till I'm very excited to
Speaker 2: hear this.
Speaker 1: This is Sven and his partner Magic. They shot to
Speaker 1: global stardom in twenty eighteen, so about six years ago
Speaker 1: when they fell in love at the Sea Life Aquarium
Speaker 1: in Sydney, and then they later adopted and raised two
Speaker 1: chicks as a same sex male couple. Get it, Gels.
Speaker 1: It was such a beautiful story and just goes to
Speaker 1: show to any bigots out there, we're everywhere. The gay
Speaker 1: Agenda is alive and wow, JK Rowling just grown. Brian
Speaker 1: Tamaki will have something to say about Sphin and Magic,
Speaker 1: But I have some very sad news to report. Spin
Speaker 1: has sadly passed away r P R I P. They
Speaker 1: he made it to the ripe old age of eleven,
Speaker 1: which apparently is very well, like very you know, it's
Speaker 1: a solid innings for this particular penguin species, and it
Speaker 1: feels like that feels like a solid effort. Yeah, Magic's
Speaker 1: a toy boy, because Spin was eleven, Magic's eight.
Speaker 2: So wow, Daddy and the twin new Daddy. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: that's probably callous of me. It's too early in the
Speaker 2: piece for information like that.
Speaker 1: So Magic, they took Magic to see Spinn's body to
Speaker 1: like show Magic that Spin wasn't coming back, and they
Speaker 1: immediately started singing, I showed tune. Probably you have to laugh.
Speaker 1: You have to laugh at these things, something from Frozen. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's very sad news, but it was such a beautiful
Speaker 1: story that funnily enough, you know, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: hearing something like that, we realize, fuck, you know, even
Speaker 1: the penguins are living these beautiful, authentic lives. Something really
Speaker 1: sweet about it. He was just take a little moment
Speaker 1: of silence. Yeah. So anyway, but again is do you know.
Speaker 2: That this year is one hundred and fifty years since
Speaker 2: the jockstrack was inventors?
Speaker 1: It isn't that all? It is that old. I saw this.
Speaker 2: I saw one of my favorite editor entertainers, Matthew camp
Speaker 2: If you're not across Matthew camp.
Speaker 1: Are well worth it? Swimmer? No, No, Matthew Campy's a.
Speaker 2: I don't know, He's a an influencer porn starry only
Speaker 2: sort of guy. He this is a little bit niche,
Speaker 2: but also a great thing to go in your recommendation.
Speaker 2: There was a documentary what's it called?
Speaker 1: What's Like?
Speaker 2: Not a documentary because a momentary is funny, isn't that
Speaker 2: what It's like? A documentary like a kind of a
Speaker 2: highbridy documentary movie thing about him being a go go
Speaker 2: dancer in New York. Terrible stories cart with the information
Speaker 2: and it also can't google at the same time because
Speaker 2: boy and I'm telling the story.
Speaker 1: So I'll come back to this anyway. I found out
Speaker 1: through him.
Speaker 2: But yeah, invented one hundred and fifty years ago, and
Speaker 2: it was originally done it was originally made for those
Speaker 2: for bicycle riding messengers and delivery men or bike jockeys,
Speaker 2: So people that used to ride around and deliver things
Speaker 2: on the bikes.
Speaker 1: That's what they used to be at wow, for for
Speaker 1: ease and for comfort. Yeah, so I think it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing so that maybe so that you weren't
Speaker 2: so sweaty, because I think there's the original idea that
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: Although you'd think if you were on a bike all
Speaker 1: day you'd want some extra petting. They're not less petting.
Speaker 2: I suppose maybe the underway they were wearing in those
Speaker 2: days though it would be too bunch. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Also,
Speaker 2: and I think I learned there's also a female equivalent
Speaker 2: of a jock sep called a jill strap a gill Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's designed to protect the vulver from getting stuck.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where it's getting stuck, but yeah, but
Speaker 1: same concept.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just sort of like the same design, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think. So, Okay, do we have to actually what
Speaker 2: them in it's.
Speaker 1: He in the Wikipedia. If any of our gators have
Speaker 1: ever used a jill strap.
Speaker 2: Let us know who love to say, I'm going to
Speaker 2: find that out because the internet here at radio towers
Speaker 2: not super strong.
Speaker 1: No, sorry, but yeah, and so but.
Speaker 2: So eighteen seventy fours when they first were invented, and
Speaker 2: then it wasn't until the fifth nineteen fifties that the
Speaker 2: gates were like.
Speaker 1: Hang, I know a little that did it? Why would?
Speaker 1: I mean no, I was gonna say, why did it
Speaker 1: get commandeered by the gay community, But it's like very
Speaker 1: obvious why I got commandeered by the gay community. I
Speaker 1: will I will want to misbehavior? Yeah, do you feel good?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I quite like it's there's something quite I
Speaker 1: think we've talked about it before. There's something quite sexy
Speaker 1: and empowering.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Well, yes, I totally agree. And you wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been the only one that was. I mean, there
Speaker 2: was definitely something that would that had them just them on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it. The clear bottoms. I actually i've
Speaker 1: been watching Orange is the New Black watch. Yeah, really good. Anyway,
Speaker 1: in the literally in the episode that I most recently watched,
Speaker 1: there's a subplot where the prisoners start making underwear for
Speaker 1: like a private company, and it's like lingerie, like women's
Speaker 1: lingerie that they're making and one of the prisoners talks
Speaker 1: about the fact that for women, lingerie is less about
Speaker 1: the like impressing a man or a woman. I guess
Speaker 1: it's more about the wearer feeling confident and sexy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think the jock strap's the same, Like, do
Speaker 1: you think it's more about you feeling empowered wearing it
Speaker 1: as opposed to wearing it for someone else? Well, to
Speaker 1: be honest, that's how I would feel. I am. I
Speaker 1: think that's how I feel. I hadn't really kind of
Speaker 1: thought about it until I heard them talking about it
Speaker 1: on Oranges, the New Blank of all places. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a performative thing.
Speaker 2: But that's not really even the right way of putting it,
Speaker 2: is that it's kind of one of those things that.
Speaker 1: Is just you. Yeah, I suppose it's what ever makes
Speaker 1: you feel good? A jill strap. I've googled it very
Speaker 1: very similar in design to a.
Speaker 2: Jobs Yeah, I mean if you were going to the
Speaker 2: if you go to the store, you might even picked
Speaker 2: the wrong one upn't you. Yes, it looks a lot
Speaker 2: thinner like this because you're obviously not really in the
Speaker 2: balls're not coup and as you're not having a.
Speaker 1: Cup as much. So yeah, it's a lot thinner.
Speaker 2: Shall we stand on the TV theme and move across
Speaker 2: to great television news of the week. Long time listeners
Speaker 2: to the podcast would know that we're big fans of
Speaker 2: the television franchise Sibre Trees of Ireland.
Speaker 1: In fact, some of must have been honest. I'll stop.
Speaker 1: We were once or twice twice. Yes, I was on
Speaker 1: the first season of the New Iteration in twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: and then didn't go well but got brought back, bullied
Speaker 1: by Barbicane, got bullied by poor Barbara. I will stop
Speaker 1: talking about it one day and I don't think she's
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast and she's gurgling. And then got
Speaker 1: brought back for fans versus favorites a couple of year
Speaker 1: years ago. Well, I did make it all the way
Speaker 1: to the end, and I did when.
Speaker 2: But they're releasing new contestants for this year and it
Speaker 2: looks like a great series.
Speaker 1: I've heard, I mean I haven't heard. I haven't heard specifics,
Speaker 1: but I've heard as a general vibe, very very strong season.
Speaker 2: Well, the level of talent is very impressive, I think,
Speaker 2: and I think it's credits to the show and I
Speaker 2: think how much people enjoy it. Where people who maybe
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have normally expected to go on the show,
Speaker 2: such as sitting MP Carl zeppalone, yes, who did a
Speaker 2: great job of lying about that.
Speaker 1: FYI like, actually, you know what, let's give it a go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, But just to put it into the
Speaker 2: context of our wonderful podcast, statistically.
Speaker 1: Gaze great at the show? Is that fair well? Of
Speaker 1: the five seasons we've had of them, of the more
Speaker 1: recent iteration since twenty nine, team, there have been three
Speaker 1: gay winners.
Speaker 2: And we think we're going to go for one, go
Speaker 2: for one more because this season, by my calculation, it
Speaker 2: is some good detective book on this afternoon. I think
Speaker 2: that there are three homosexual in this series. Okay, possibly more,
Speaker 2: but I think also let's let's just go with those
Speaker 2: that are out.
Speaker 1: Loud and proud. Yeah, so obviously Tarmati Coffee, Amity Coffee,
Speaker 1: former Labor MP, former Breakfast were the presenter Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars Champion. Yes, he's strong.
Speaker 2: He is really strong, absolutely big muscle, is ready to
Speaker 2: go and competitive and schemey like, not in a bad way,
Speaker 2: but he would he'll do what it takes.
Speaker 1: To kind of get to the endement.
Speaker 2: We've got Janay Henry Comedian fantastic, remember the rambag community wonderful.
Speaker 2: I think quite funny. People might like sort of think
Speaker 2: that she can't Henry spin is exactly right. And then
Speaker 2: number three from my calculations, speaking Jackson.
Speaker 1: I know winner of Opal's Drag Race down Under fascinated
Speaker 1: as well to probably get a little bit television meta
Speaker 1: here to work out with a because on the promo
Speaker 1: photo full drag.
Speaker 2: Full drag, do you think stays in full drake the
Speaker 2: whole time. I kind of have to for it to work,
Speaker 2: is how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, except having done the show and having competed
Speaker 1: in the challenges and stuff. Yeah, I mean it would
Speaker 1: be a pain in the ass is a woman having
Speaker 1: to deal with breasts and stuff, let alone being a
Speaker 1: fake woman having to deal with like breastplates and wigs
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't make any sense because speaking Jackson, out of drag,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't recognize them.
Speaker 1: No, but I guess you've got a story to tell
Speaker 1: on the show, right, So maybe you start and drag
Speaker 1: on the episode one and by episode two you've d dragged.
Speaker 1: Did you like SPI I've arrived in my film out
Speaker 1: for Yeah, I don't know. I just think it's a
Speaker 1: lot of upkeep to maintain drag if you make it
Speaker 1: all the way to the end, you know, for maybe
Speaker 1: that she stays in dregs would be big for so
Speaker 1: funny if she did. Yeah. So three, I mean, anyone
Speaker 1: else is welcome to join the family.
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely I wouldn't know, but I'm just taking based
Speaker 2: off public information. One that I wouldn't mind joining the
Speaker 2: group is Vinnie Wolston.
Speaker 1: Did you know about Vinnie Wilson? Ever heard of him? Sonny,
Speaker 1: Vinnie Wilston is an international model, like I think It's
Speaker 1: done some pretty big campaigns before to the spin off.
Speaker 2: He's the global face of You've seen Laurent uh and
Speaker 2: now he lives in Raglan.
Speaker 1: That's his two claims to fame. He looks beautiful, though stunning,
Speaker 1: like just your classic male model, all right. He's got
Speaker 1: a real like fifties vibe to him.
Speaker 2: I like this photo here where he's just this and
Speaker 2: the promotion photo where he's just like arms up, like
Speaker 2: showing a little bit of the purse.
Speaker 1: Arms up like he's looking like a model. But he's
Speaker 1: also wearing like the most unassuming clothing as well. I
Speaker 1: can't work out with.
Speaker 2: It's like almost like a sponsors thing. Is it a
Speaker 2: kiwis it's like a tank like a it's a single?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it a Kiwi singleer? Like?
Speaker 2: It's probably it's probably the only person that's break a
Speaker 2: sp sponsor clothes.
Speaker 1: Ride Tech, build Transfer Solutions. He's he's a very very
Speaker 1: handsome man.
Speaker 2: Now, I suppose you can't give any any spoilers, But
Speaker 2: have you seen any of it? Because I know you
Speaker 2: are the resident commentator on all these things.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of it, but I have been
Speaker 1: invited to the premiere in a couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: that will come out. I will see it before it
Speaker 1: obviously arrives on television, so I'll be able to tell
Speaker 1: you about it before it lands on TV.
Speaker 2: Do you think, but just between you and me and
Speaker 2: the gators, do you think we might be able to
Speaker 2: pick a favorite.
Speaker 1: From the LGBT community how we think is going to
Speaker 1: win it? I honestly would not put it past time
Speaker 1: to go all the way and win it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, controversial take. I think he could win it and
Speaker 2: then have no friends. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 1: He will. He could either win it or he'll go
Speaker 1: very far but be the villain of the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could go either way. And then Jordan, Yeah, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't cats. I would love to see a woman
Speaker 1: win it, like I would love I love Michelle Langston.
Speaker 1: I think she's brilliant the actress. She would be great
Speaker 1: and I feel like she could go quite far me
Speaker 1: and more too. The boxer is so fierce, so fierce,
Speaker 1: she looks terrifying. You don't want to mess with her.
Speaker 2: I've worked a little bit with Gabbie Simola and she
Speaker 2: is very impressive. So could go far, I think, so, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't. You really can't go past to someone woman, though,
Speaker 2: can you. Like if they've got the wets, they've got
Speaker 2: the brain and they got the brawn like the.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. And also Gabby is someone that not
Speaker 1: a lot of people know, so she could easily like
Speaker 1: slide under the radar a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know that Carmel's not winning because she heard
Speaker 2: her phone andjet to come home with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. But anyway, it starts in a couple
Speaker 1: of wee yes, it does with the tag we've got
Speaker 1: to give this credit.
Speaker 2: The project begins Monday, the ninth of September on TV
Speaker 2: and Z two and tv Z Plus.
Speaker 1: There you go, put that in their jack I'm a
Speaker 1: tv Z I'm a TV and Z man at heart.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, something's happened to me and I really
Speaker 1: need your help. Sounds dominous, It is kind of okay,
Speaker 1: it's quite scandalous, and it's not about me personally, but
Speaker 1: it has I have been dragged into the middle of this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I got this random me saig in my DM
Speaker 1: requests we're all going to messages going like my other
Speaker 1: other folder, And it was from someone I didn't know,
Speaker 1: and I clicked into their profile and it was completely private.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see anything except for their profile picture. It
Speaker 1: didn't look like we had any mutual friends in common.
Speaker 1: And it just said do you know that this person
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to name them, but it's someone
Speaker 1: that I know is on gay dating apps looking to
Speaker 1: hook up. Now, this guy that I know is married
Speaker 1: to a woman with children. And if it was just
Speaker 1: that message, I might have I would have just probably
Speaker 1: ignored it and been like, who is this weirdo? Like,
Speaker 1: but they've attached three photos to the message, nude photos
Speaker 1: of this guy that I'm from. Yeah, and it's definitely him. WHOA,
Speaker 1: So this is wild. So one of a few things
Speaker 1: I reckon has happened. One it is absolutely as this
Speaker 1: person says, And this guy is on a gay dating
Speaker 1: app look at a hook up and has obviously sent
Speaker 1: someone nudes and they have, for whatever reason, decided to
Speaker 1: message someone or maybe multiple people within his contacts list
Speaker 1: to let them know, yeh. Or as someone else that
Speaker 1: I told the story to has suggested, we know a
Speaker 1: lot of AI scams are around at the moment. Could
Speaker 1: this be an AI scam where they've taken his face
Speaker 1: and created nudes to send out to contacts as a
Speaker 1: potential scam, blackmail, trying to get money, extortion.
Speaker 2: It's terrifying if that's actually I'm sure it is a thing,
Speaker 2: but if that's happening around us?
Speaker 1: Or are the nudes real? But they've hat his phone
Speaker 1: and maybe he took them for his wife and this
Speaker 1: is completely innocent. And so there's so many things and
Speaker 1: I don't have any more information, and the person's profile
Speaker 1: has now disappeared. I can't click into their profile.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're still the message is still there.
Speaker 1: The message and the photos are still there, and so
Speaker 1: now I'm left with this dilemma. What do I do
Speaker 1: with this information? Is it my responsibility to say something
Speaker 1: to either part of it, to the to the wife
Speaker 1: who I know reasonably well, to him, or do I
Speaker 1: just do I just ignore it and not get involved
Speaker 1: in this very messy situation. Well, it's yeah, wow, that's
Speaker 1: that's a very very hard one.
Speaker 2: Excuse the part it was, what's yeah, I mean, my
Speaker 2: gut is that you just leave it.
Speaker 1: My gut is that I leave it as well.
Speaker 2: And then I thought, if I were to do anything,
Speaker 2: I don't think I say anything to her.
Speaker 1: Definitely not No, nevous. This is his business and his
Speaker 1: business only. So do I maybe just send him a
Speaker 1: message and say, hey, I'm not meddling, I'm not judging,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything. I just want you to know
Speaker 1: that these photos and this message have come my way,
Speaker 1: and if I've received it, there's every chance that other
Speaker 1: people have or are going to receive it. Your wife.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know, so that you have the information.
Speaker 1: You do with that what you will, whether that involves
Speaker 1: telling people or not. At least you have the information
Speaker 1: and you can make an informed decision. I mean.
Speaker 2: That is the that it's probably the answer to be fair,
Speaker 2: that you need to tell that person there because if
Speaker 2: they are as I followed up with, like what a
Speaker 2: fucking dickhead for cheating around in your messes with a
Speaker 2: man or a woman.
Speaker 1: Totally totally, But then it's also one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, we don't know what goes on
Speaker 1: behind closed doors. Maybe they have an arrangement, maybe you
Speaker 1: know who knows who knows, and so I don't want
Speaker 1: to I don't want to make assumptions. I don't want
Speaker 1: to judge either, But also part of me is like,
Speaker 1: maybe he has the right to know so that he
Speaker 1: can do something about this on either side, like whether
Speaker 1: it's stop doing it, whether it's stopped yeah, whether it's
Speaker 1: stopping doing what he's doing, whether it's coming clean to
Speaker 1: his wife, or whether it's looking into someone who is
Speaker 1: potentially manipulating photos, scamming or blackmailing him or whatever it
Speaker 1: might be. Because the activity on this person's behalf is illegal.
Speaker 1: Sending sending nude photos, yeah, maybe it is.
Speaker 2: We're sending someone else's nud for us out is definitely Yeah, yes, pockets,
Speaker 2: I don't envy.
Speaker 1: You, mate. That is not a very nice place to be.
Speaker 1: It was not what I expected. It was not a
Speaker 1: situation I expected to find myself in. And yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: If any look, I would love to get people's thoughts
Speaker 1: on this, and we'll revisit it next week with maybe
Speaker 1: some sub advice or some opinions. I'd love for the
Speaker 1: Gators to weigh in on this. What do I do
Speaker 1: in this situation? Or do I not do anything? But
Speaker 1: let us know. You can obviously hit us up on
Speaker 1: Facebook it out out the Gate Facebook page, or you
Speaker 1: can follow us out the Gate on Instagram as well.
Speaker 1: Oh dear juicy, right, real juicy juicy? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't enview it at all. No, should we finish
Speaker 1: on something a little bit lighter and brighter, perhaps destroying
Speaker 1: someone's marriage in the legal nerds? Yes, go on, what
Speaker 1: do you got? I saw that there was some beautiful
Speaker 1: news in there about about a bit of a queer icon.
Speaker 2: Really, yes, in this game, this is where I hope
Speaker 2: this is. Bradley should be taking this.
Speaker 1: We really should be. But well we'll cover it, and
Speaker 1: we'll cover it as well as we can so.
Speaker 2: We would like to congratulate on behalf of out the
Speaker 2: gate and our wonderful gators. To referee Nigel Owens, who
Speaker 2: is quite a famous referee very referees, all right. Him
Speaker 2: and his partner or now husband, Barry got married what
Speaker 2: looks like maybe the Scotland.
Speaker 1: Wales, Wales, Wales. Nigel Owens is Welsh a yep, and
Speaker 1: so looks like they got married at a resort in Wales.
Speaker 1: Nigel Owens called it an amazing day and the proudest
Speaker 1: day of my life. Isn't that so beautiful?
Speaker 2: It is so cool and massive shout out to him,
Speaker 2: and yeah beautiful, it's a lovely, lovely way to end
Speaker 2: the podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that just you know, Nigel is someone who
Speaker 1: has really led the charge in a in an.
Speaker 2: The amount of shit you get is a reef at
Speaker 2: the best of time, a gay red yes, I know.
Speaker 1: And so to be able to know in a sport
Speaker 1: where we don't have a huge great track record of
Speaker 1: people being able to live authentically while they're in the
Speaker 1: in the midst of the sport, for him to come
Speaker 1: out and live his life authentically amazing, So big shout
Speaker 1: out to Nigel and Barry for getting married. They look
Speaker 1: very handsome, by the way, very very anyway, thank you
Speaker 1: for listening, Gators, and we will be back next week.
Speaker 2: Bradley should be back with us. We should definitely be
Speaker 2: joining us, which would be lovely. I'm sure there'll be
Speaker 2: plenty of great new things to talk about next week.
Speaker 2: We need to do a deep dive because the Paralympic
Speaker 2: starts tomorrow and you know, we did such great coverage
Speaker 2: of the Olympics.
Speaker 1: We've got it Queer Stars of the Paralympic.
Speaker 2: Where you can definitely do that if you know any
Speaker 2: hot Paralympians, Queer Paralympians now girls, and we.
Speaker 1: Will see you next week. Bye bye bye