1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge, on 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: an earlier edition with one roof love where you live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: News Talk said, be. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: Good morning, just got six half to five. Great to 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: have your company. Well look at this Genesis Equity raise. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: Where's the demand actually coming from Donald Demo in Australia 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: for us this morning? Who's poaching our air traffic controllers? 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: And would you use the CRL of the city RAILNK 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: and open unless it was patrolled by police? 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: The agenda Tuesday. 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: The twenty fourth of February. The Mexican drug kingpin who's 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: been captured. He's now dead and all of his henchmen 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: are going on a rampage. 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: And right now our goal is to guarantee peace and security, 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: and this is what we're doing. There is more calmness today, 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: Security forces, government security cabinets, we're all there, so you 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: can feel reassured that peace and security is there. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: There's still quite a few businesses and buildings burning to 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: the US winter storms. They've got fifteen inches of snow 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: in Central Park. Memdami's put a travel band dangerous conditions. 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: The mixture of this kind of snow with this kind 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: of wind is something that can lead to a lot 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: of danger on our streets and our roads. We know 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: that the snow is going to continue. It's why we 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 4: have the travel band through until twelve pm, because we 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: are now through the worst of it is still continuing 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: through the morning. 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: Now Albanezi out of Australia written to Starma wants Andrew 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: wants to make sure that Randy Andy is never king 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: of Australia. 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 5: This intervention from the Australian primary is significant because a 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: key part of what's needed to remove the line of 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 5: succession is agreement from the Commonwealth realms. All of them 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: have to agree, and obviously Australia is a key part 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 5: of the Commonwealth. So this does feel like a yet 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 5: more momentum gathering towards that conclusion put for Andrew. 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Starmer's responded saying, yet got your letter and we're not 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: rolling anything. 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Out On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News. 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Talks had been eight after five on your Tuesday morning. 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: Nine two nine two is the number to text. Had 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: a look at what Trump actually did in response to 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court ruling on tariffs. It affects US quite 45 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: a lot, as you can imagine. So the US Supreme 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: Court ruled that they were legal, not just the Liberation 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: day ones, but the drug trafficking ones. The duties that 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: applied Canada, Mexico, China all unlawful and so Trump obviously 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: was preempting that this was going to happen, So immediately 50 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: cancels those tariffs that were applying, including applying to US. 51 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Cancels them and bring ins a whole bunch bringing brought 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: in a whole bunch of new ones, a new fifteen 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: percent charge. Now the question if you are a New 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Zealand exporter right now who was paying the tariff at 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: fifteen percent, those have now been canceled, so a significant 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: potential for a refund. I was having a look at 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: a piece that Minter Allison did in New Zealand. This 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: is the law firm. They said, you have a significant 59 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: opportunity for a refund across a wide range of sectors. 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: So keywies who are exporting to America, because those tariffs 61 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: should never have happened and you've been paying them since 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: early twenty twenty five. So the key is to get 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: in quick with your claims because there is a window 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: by which you have to do this, and it really 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: does depend in their opinion on how much cooperation we 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: will see from the US importer of record. So if 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: you are exporting to him, I mean, I'm sure you've 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: got your own legal advice, but it sounds like something 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: you'd want to get onto, and get onto pretty quickly. Anyway. 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: We'll have more about those tariffs later in the program, 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: and including what will happen to the EU and to 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: the UK who signed deals with Trump and said, oh 73 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: we will set this tariff rate. If those tariff rates 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: were illegal, then on what basis where these deals done 75 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: and do we need to go back to the drawing 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: board on them? Nine two ten, After five Ryan Bridge 77 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: come out. Next, we'll speak to Alf Philip Pine and 78 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Elf is a city councilor in Auckland. By's also a 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: former cop. He reckons we need police officers long term 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: at every station on the city. Railing which they reckon 81 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: is going to open in September. Sound expensive? Yeah, that's next. 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: News TALKSB News. 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: And Views You Trust to start your day. It's early 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: edition with Bryan Bridge and one Roofe Love Where you Live. 85 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: News TALKSB five twelve on news talk ZB some good 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: news on our discretionary spend. This is money we don't 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: need to spend, but we do spend because well, we 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: want to. Our stats in z numbers out yesterday two 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine million seasonally adjusted. This is an 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: increase in sales volumes for the December quarter. The discretionary 91 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: spending was a big driver of that. Retail sales volumes 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: rose a seasonally adjusted point nine that was much stronger 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: than the economists had predicted and comes on top of 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: a booster one point nine for the September quarters. So 95 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: retail is coming back, baby, and not just because the 96 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 2: prices are gone up because of inflation. They're actually buying 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: more stuff, which is good. And to Roy, good morning, Roy. 98 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: Royce has no more sick days for Ryan. Please make 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: sure he turns up and treats his z B with respect. 100 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: It was annual leave. Roy, Okay, you can't say that. 101 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: I don't think I've had a sick day since I've 102 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: been here, have I kens nearly two years? Roy? Okay, 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: give me a break. Thirteen after five ray Bridge, an 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: Algan councilor wants cops stationed at the City rail Link 105 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: long term currently officers are going to be deployed on 106 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: the trains when it opens we think September to make 107 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: passengers feel safer, but not permanently. 108 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 6: Elf. 109 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 2: Philippina is with us this morning. 110 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 7: Morning, Elf, morning, not till Mary. 111 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 8: How are you around? 112 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: Very well? Thank you? What exactly are you worried about? Elf? 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 2: What do you think is going to happen to people 114 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: on these trains? 115 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 6: Well? 116 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 8: I think firstly, it's just a safety issue around, especially 117 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 8: with the CRL, specially with the tunnel. I just I 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 8: just sort of worry about the safety of the community 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 8: and a discussion needs to happen with the government in 120 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 8: regards and obviously the police Commissioner, with transport officers dedicated 121 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 8: to the safety and there on on our transport system. 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 8: That's my concern. We need to have a conversation or 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 8: can transport have traffic officers they obviously don't have the 124 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 8: authority to at least locked up. Arrest is not about arresting, 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 8: but it's just about having officers there so. 126 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: That Counsel Council has transport officers right ALF, So if 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: someone goes and bashes someone over the head, can a 128 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: transport officer hold them down and detain them until police arrive. 129 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 8: Well, look then and again that courses problem when you 130 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 8: end up sort of holding them. 131 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: But from what problems? 132 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 8: Well, if they end up sort of getting assaulted, if 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 8: they don't end up doing it, if they can't restrain 134 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 8: them with the handcuffs, if they can't at least ensure 135 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 8: if there's not the numbers there. Look, I don't even 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 8: transport officers don't have the ability if they end up 137 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 8: having numbers against them. I just think the conversation needs 138 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 8: to happen because the safety of our passengers, our public 139 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 8: is paramount. 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: I agree, But the problem is you can't have cops everywhere. 141 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: Are you saying that you think these stations are going 142 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: to be more dangerous than Queen Street for example, any 143 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: old spot? 144 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think a conversation needs to happen where we 145 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 8: are working together with the police. I know that's happening. 146 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 8: But I know that when I ended up being the 147 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 8: transport chair way back in the day with Mundico going 148 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 8: over to Australia for some of the states there having 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 8: dedicated transport police. Actually in the States, like in Sydney 150 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 8: in Brisbane, having the dedicated police officers. 151 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: There, and they need something to look. 152 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 8: I mean the tasers and guns. I think for me 153 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 8: having dedicated police officers. Again, it's about the uniform and 154 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 8: the fact that people will realize. It's like when we 155 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 8: amalgamated in nineteen ninety two with the Ministry of Transport 156 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 8: right first of July nineteen ninety two, when we amalgamated there, 157 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 8: we ended up sort of having the one Transport Police 158 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 8: under the Ministry of Transport under new the You don't 159 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 8: think that the structure needs to happen, all. 160 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: Right, The uniform might help ALP appreciate your time this morning, 161 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: as I always do. Elf Philippina Auckland City counselor and 162 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: former police officer himself, seventeen after five News Talks, the'b 163 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: coming up next, who's poaching all of our aviation air 164 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: traffic controllers? 165 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 166 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Root Love. 167 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: Where You Live News Talks A B five nineteen on 168 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: News talks 'b Aiden says, I reckon, a conversation needs 169 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: to happen. Who doesn't love a good conversation? Stick the 170 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: kettle on? Yeah, And there was a little bit of that. 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: There is always a little bit of that from counselor 172 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: as we just spoke to Elf Philippina out of Auckland 173 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: about the need for police or someone to be on 174 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 2: patrol beyond the beat at the New City railing. Speaking 175 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: of conversations, Saint John want to have one about women. 176 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: This is an interesting number that's come out this morning. 177 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: Female patients have lower odds of surviving fifty percent are 178 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: lower odds of surviving a cardiac arrest, having one out 179 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: of hospital, so you're out in the street, you fall over, Yeah, 180 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: you have a heart attack sixty percent less likely to 181 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: receive a DEFIB than male patients, they think, because well 182 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: obvious reasons of where the heart is. So you'd be 183 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: less likely to get the defib machine from the church 184 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: or wherever it might be and clamp it on a 185 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: woman than you would be a man. We need to 186 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: have a conversation. Brian Breadley twenty after five warnings that 187 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: staff and shortages could spell big problems for our airlines. 188 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: Our air traffic controllers can't start on the job, by 189 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: the way, until they're twenty one, apparently getting poached off 190 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: shorter places like the Middle East with big salary packages. 191 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: Simon Wallace Aviation Industry Association CEO with me this morning, Simon, 192 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Ryan. Who's poaching them and how 193 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: much are they offering. 194 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, there's obviously a growing number of services airlines rapidly 195 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 9: expanding in the Middle East and South Asia, so that 196 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 9: requires the need for a lot more air traffic controllers. 197 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 9: So those are the countries that are taking our well 198 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 9: qualified air traffic controllers at very competitive salaries. And we're 199 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 9: talking hundreds of thousands of dollars here, Ryans. So we 200 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 9: can't compete on that here in New Zealand. So we've 201 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 9: got to look at the conditions that we're offering a 202 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 9: round lifestyle, work life balance, all those sorts of other 203 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 9: things to try and keep our air traffic controllers here. 204 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: So what would your average air traffic controller be paid 205 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: here and how much could they get there? 206 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 9: Roughly after twelve year, after twelve to eighteen months training 207 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 9: by airways who train our air traffic controllers, starting salary 208 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 9: round is around about one hundred and ten to one 209 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 9: hundred and fifteen k So that's a pretty pretty good 210 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 9: start out salary for a young person and it goes 211 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 9: up from there. But you know, the Middle Eastern countries. 212 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 9: You know UAU guitar. They are offering figures a lot 213 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 9: more than that. Of course it varies according to which 214 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 9: country they go to, but a lot more than that, 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 9: as I say, in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: Right, So we train them, then they punkeed them. Why 217 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: don't we bond them. 218 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 9: Look, that's something that I think that airways we'll be 219 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 9: looking at. You would need to talk to them, run 220 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 9: the training. But you know, it is not just air 221 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 9: traffic controls that we've got a problem with aviation here 222 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 9: in New Zealand and Ryan, we're incredibly short of aviation engineers, 223 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 9: I guess, the less sexy part of the industry, and 224 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 9: we're short of more than three hundred engineers out of 225 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 9: a workforce of three thousand. So you know, we've got 226 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 9: shortages of traffic controllers, engineers, pilots across all those vidal 227 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 9: occupations in the system. 228 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: Simon, is it true that you can't start then the 229 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: job air traffic control until you're twenty one? And if so, why. 230 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 8: That's a rule. 231 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, that is correct, And that's a rule that's set 232 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 9: down by the Civil Aviation Authority under the licensing system. 233 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 9: And I know that when Airways paid for the Select 234 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 9: Committee last week, that's something that they want to get change. 235 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 9: So that requires a will and a way from the 236 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 9: regulator and others. But certainly one thing that needs to 237 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 9: be looked at is that. 238 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: Just because we think they're more responsible and reasonable to 239 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: make better decisions that sort of thing. 240 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that. I think that's a big part 241 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 9: of it. Ryan at twenty one, that's the figure that's 242 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 9: been put on it. But I think that needs to 243 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 9: be looked at when we have this problem with our 244 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 9: air control being proached off short. 245 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: And simon, just give us the overview here. How bad 246 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: is the shortage of all of the aforementioned Is it 247 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: going to mean that we can't fly one day or 248 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: what does it mean? 249 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 9: Well, engineers, is the real need right at the moment 250 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 9: to set three hundred short and that is causing problems 251 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 9: through the whole system economic co operational this you know 252 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 9: you're seeing we're already seeing flights being delayed, but it's 253 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 9: across what we call the whole general aviation system, which 254 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 9: is agricultural aviation, contracting, emergency services. You know, when you 255 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 9: can't get an engineer to fix a plane and safety 256 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 9: is paramount. You know that plane is grounded and you 257 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 9: can't operate or do those services. So this is an 258 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 9: issue that has been looked at by this new Aviation 259 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 9: Council and the action plan that was launched by James 260 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 9: Meaga a couple of months ago. It's not just a 261 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 9: white paper. It's got some clear actions in there with 262 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 9: workforce fronts and centers. So you know there's some work 263 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 9: being done with between industry and government and that's that's 264 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 9: coming to the fore in a few weeks time. 265 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: Simon, appreciate your time this morning. That's Simon Wallace, Aviation 266 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: Industry Association CEO. So twenty one years. I mean, if 267 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: you're controlling planes and they could crash into each other 268 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: with hundreds of people on board, then you would want 269 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: somebody who's reasonable. But you can do a hell of 270 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: a lot of other things before the age of twenty 271 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: one which also have implications for life and death, like 272 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: driver car. I suppose it's less the collateral potentially nine 273 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: two nine two. What do we think next? We'll talk 274 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: about the move on orders. News Talk Said B. 275 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: Early edition Full the show podcast on Ihart Radio Power 276 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: by NEWSTALKSB. 277 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: NEWSTALKSB it is twenty seven after five Kiwis are generally 278 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: known around the world is good sorts, good people. We 279 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: open doors, we say please and thank you. We help 280 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: a neighbor out. We leap into help people when helpers 281 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: need it. It's one of those traits that we're most 282 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: proud of as a country, I think. But one thing 283 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: we hate more than anything else is when that kindness 284 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: is taken for granted. Then there is no more mister 285 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: nice guy. And we saw this with the kids stealing 286 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: from dairies and ram raiding the poor, old, hard working 287 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: dairy owners. The minute they started destroying livelihoods beating people 288 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: with screwdrivers and hammers, sympathy evaporated. Sure, some of these 289 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: kids may have had hard upbringings, but there are plenty 290 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: of kids out there with tough upbringings who choose not 291 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: to drive ans Antita through a four square window at 292 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: three am aren't there. So we voted for boot camps. 293 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: We reversed ourt no chase police chase policy. We crack down. 294 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Kindness has its limits A long time ago for those 295 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: who frequent the city, we cross the same line with 296 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: beggars and rough sleepers. We care about them, of course, 297 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: we do. We're not a holes. We donate our time 298 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: and our money to the city mission, to charities, We 299 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: pay our taxes knowing that they should be going to 300 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: help in some way improve their lives. But there are 301 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: also a bunch of idiots taking advantage with squirted bottles 302 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: at traffic lights. They can be quite aggressive and dangerous. 303 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: Not to mention, same goes for rough sleepers on the 304 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: footpaths and some of our biggest cities. It's costing businesses, 305 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: it's destroying the reputation of entire swathes of city shops. 306 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: These shops provide jobs for the rest of us, especially 307 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: in our biggest city, where foreign terrists first impression should 308 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: be not a punch up between two roufies on the footpath. 309 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: So while the headlines about this move on policy, like 310 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: the crackdown on ram raiders before it, or the hard 311 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: line on ko tenants who were throwing knives across the 312 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: fence or bottles across the fence to their neighbors before it, 313 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: they will scream cruel and mean in the papers. But 314 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: I think they are out of step with the reality 315 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: of people and the reality that these people are facing 316 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 2: in their own lives. The good grace, cup hath runneth 317 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: empty twenty nine minutes after five News coming up. Next, 318 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: we head to our Australian correspondent, Donna Demeayo, and we'll 319 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: speak to the big users of energy about that Genesis announcement. 320 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: News Talk ZBB. 321 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day early 322 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route Love where You Live, 323 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: News Talks. 324 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 6: B pretty borroway from six News TALKSB. 325 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: We'll speak to the major Electricity Users group because they 326 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: are going to be using most of the electricity increase 327 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: that we'll see over the next few years. We will 328 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: need twenty five percent more power to power in New Zealand. 329 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: Donald Demayo out of Australia for us before then too. 330 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: And we'll get to our reporters in just a second. 331 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: But first to the bafters where Michael B. Jordan and 332 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 2: Delroy Lindo. They are both actors, Black actors, and they 333 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: are up on stage presenting an award at the bafters 334 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: and someone in the crowd yells out the N word repeatedly, a. 335 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 4: Fatal part of movie making. 336 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: We're here to celebrate now. There was a guy in 337 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: the audience with Turette's John Davidson, a Turette's campaigner from Scotland, 338 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: is the inspiration behind the now bafter winning film I 339 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: Swear he shouted several times before and during the ceremony 340 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: and led to this apology by the host. 341 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 10: You may have had some strong and offensive language tonight, 342 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 10: Tete Sendron. There's a disability and the ticks you've heard 343 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 10: Tony are involunteer. 344 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: He's the person who has. 345 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 11: To syndrome, has no control over their language. 346 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 4: We apologize if you were offended. 347 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: Now obviously offensive, obviously terrible. But if they can't control it, 348 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: they can't control it. I suppose you either don't have 349 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: them there, or you have them there and you put 350 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: up with it. 351 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 7: And Bridge Clum. 352 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: Proctor and Tonedan Cullum, good morning, morning, right alternative ways 353 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: to invest in central Otago gold. This is a suggestion 354 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: from an otager Uni professor. Let's right to listen to this. 355 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 12: Australian company Sanshana Minerals. We're aware of them buying the 356 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 12: Bendigoo for site last year. They're working to get the 357 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 12: relevant consents for exploration at the site. This despite a 358 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 12: lot of local opposition and this is what the associate 359 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 12: Professor Sergio Bigoman's proposing. He's urging the company to consider 360 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 12: the fact that gold keeps its value while underground. So 361 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 12: he says, why not just leave it there? He says, 362 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 12: unlike other minerals, gold production has always been much higher 363 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 12: than demand, with very little actually produced into product. Sigibn says, 364 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 12: most gold actually sits in volts accumulating dusts. Investors never 365 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 12: see it, so he says, why not just leave it 366 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 12: in the ground. 367 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: But don't you sort of need to make sure it's there? 368 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: And how much you know? I don't know. How's your weather? 369 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 12: A few showers before dawn here, but then a fine 370 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 12: day head nor easterlies developing. 371 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: Nineteen the heighth brilliant. Thank you Claire in christ Itch morning. 372 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 10: Clear, good morning. 373 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: Now there's plans for the red Zone. 374 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 13: Yeah, this is the city Council's two point five million 375 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 13: dollar plan to regenerate part of what was known as 376 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 13: our red zone. So it's for the northern banks of 377 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 13: the or tarct or Avon Rivert Corridor area, specifically between 378 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 13: fitzyer Old Avenue and Stanmore Road. Now, the plan would 379 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 13: include things like nature play areas, some walking tracks, a 380 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 13: viewing platform, as well as fruit trees. There's also a 381 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 13: plan to allow space for the likes of farmers' markets, 382 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 13: art exhibitions and also food truck events. We've caught up 383 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 13: with avon Or Tarcato Network manager Hailey Gulietta, who says 384 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 13: any progress in the area is really great, but the 385 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 13: council should have prioritized basic community engagement in the first instance. 386 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 13: She says it would have been better to acknowledge the 387 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 13: communities that actually already live there, but she does acknowledge. Look, 388 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 13: it's taken seven years just to get to this point, 389 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 13: so let's take whatever we can get. 390 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather cloudy? 391 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 13: There is a bit of showers about today, should clear 392 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 13: to find northwesterlies turning southerly a bit later in a 393 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 13: high of twenty. 394 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Have a great day, Claire Max's and Wellington Morning Max, 395 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: Good morning. Our bus lanes raking in the cash? 396 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 7: Is it? 397 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: And fine? Yeah? 398 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 11: That's fry story in the post apparently people driving in 399 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 11: bus lanes and now the Wellington City Council's leading money 400 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 11: spinner regarding infringements at the seventeen nine million dollars in 401 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 11: you know, parking other infringement notices six million for driving 402 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 11: in bus lanes and there are only a handful of 403 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 11: those lanes and cameras and the CBD as well. The 404 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 11: biggest money spinner actually is right outside our office on 405 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 11: Cambridge Terrace, which apparently just catches everyone out. We even 406 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 11: had a reporter started in our newsroom for The Herald 407 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 11: the other week bang first day out in the job, 408 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 11: one hundred and fifty dollars fine for just shifting over 409 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 11: a lane too early before turning up our side street. 410 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 11: That we ask for evidence got the photo back of 411 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 11: her clutching the steering wheel at ten and two, nose 412 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 11: pressed up against the windscreen. That's one hundred and fifty 413 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 11: bucks for driving in that lane for just a few meters. 414 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 11: The Razine paint shop on Cambridge Terrace has even had 415 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 11: to put up a sign warning trades not to drive 416 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 11: in the lane. Twenty six thousand infringements in that one 417 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 11: Cambridge Terrace lane in one year alone. The council raking 418 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 11: it in Wow. 419 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: And that's so that's for going into a bus line. 420 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 11: Yes, slightly early before you have to turn lefts or not. 421 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 11: I'm sure a lot of people are flouting it. 422 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: Anyway, because how long I never know how how long 423 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: you've got If you want to turn left and you 424 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: need to go into the bus line to do that, 425 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: how long have you got? 426 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 11: I think it's fifty meters. Don't quote me on it, 427 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 11: but I think it's fifty meters. 428 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: So we all get out of measuring tapes while driving 429 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: and figured that one out. Well, exactly. Yeah. The other 430 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: thing I've noticed just around where I live, Max while 431 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: you hear, is the bus lanes don't have well they are. 432 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: They do have signs on the side say the times 433 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: that the bus lanes will operate, but most people either 434 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: don't read them or don't know, and they're queuing in 435 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: the right hand lane when they could all be using 436 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: the left hand lane. They just don't know it. 437 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 11: At a fair in the traffic stools. 438 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. How's your weather. 439 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 11: Party, cloudy with the odd shower, gusty north least twenty one. 440 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: One, Thank you morning, neither good morning. We're in the 441 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: thick of it. Is it March mad or not? 442 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 9: Quite? 443 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but it kind of is. 444 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 14: But yeah, you're right, just prior to that, because you know, 445 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 14: with everyone going back to school UNI and work after 446 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 14: summer holidays. You're yeah, you're right, Like Auckland Transports is 447 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 14: that that congestion is probably going to increase by about 448 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 14: five percent on average average levels. And I think they're 449 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 14: also saying too, because this public transport network is going 450 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 14: to be busier, busier when it's working. You know, the 451 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 14: buses and trains are fairies, so they should be made. 452 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 14: Thinking about thirteen thousand trips a day. At is saying, look, 453 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 14: busy time between seven and nine am three to six 454 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 14: pm Wednesday generally the busiest day. Just to make sure 455 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 14: you know you're planned for that. And also like as 456 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 14: your mex are talking about, you know, getting into the 457 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 14: right lanes. 458 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 6: Before I know. 459 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 14: I've been pinned a couple of times. 460 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, bloody expensive it is. 461 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 14: And I think you're right, you know, like it's knowing 462 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 14: when to get into that lane before you know. And 463 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 14: I mean usually I'm just say fifty meters. He's probably 464 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 14: right because Mex is always right, but I'm usually in 465 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 14: there like two meters before here. 466 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're crippled with fear. Crippled crippled with fear. 467 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: There's a headlights and they're standing there with video cameras exactly. Yeah, Hey, 468 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: someone's just texting, you know the story about Tourett's and 469 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: that guy yelling at the best Yes, drama. 470 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 7: What do you do? That's what do you do? 471 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 14: So they've got to get him out? 472 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: Do you think something? Just But then it's not his faults, 473 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: he's got Tourett's. 474 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 14: But he said the end how many times? 475 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: I know, I know it's terrible, it's terrible. 476 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 14: What he should have just said, dick hid dick kid, 477 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 14: that's okay. 478 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but he can't. He can't. I know, 479 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: he almost It's almost like they want to say the 480 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: most offensive thing at that moment. 481 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 7: You know. 482 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 14: That's I think how many times did he say it? 483 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: Many? Multiple? Someone's saying, here can I identify is Tourett's 484 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: one of those things I can identify as having? 485 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 14: You know, a lot of people thought I had Tourette's. 486 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: Really the things that I say, how's that weather? Try 487 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: and try and hold the turretts back as you read 488 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: it for for Fine twenty four, very good sixteen Away 489 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: from sex news talks, they'd be we'll have to Australia. 490 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of 491 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: mind for new Zealand Business. 492 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: Fourteen away from six News talks. They'd be don to Mayo, 493 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 2: our Australia correspondent on a good morning. 494 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 15: Good morning to you. 495 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: Good So you don't want Andrew as your can. 496 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 15: Surprise surprise. Look, we had heard, we had heard that 497 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 15: the British government was considering passing a law that would 498 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 15: remove Andrew Mountbatten Winsor's succession rights, and of course this 499 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 15: followed his arrest then release without charge. We have now 500 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 15: heard that Anthony Albanezi has told the British PM that 501 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 15: the Australian government would agree to any proposal to remove 502 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 15: Andrew from the line of raw succession. Now he remains 503 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 15: eighth in line to the throne. So mister Albinizi is 504 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 15: the first leader of a Commonwealth country to confirm support 505 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 15: for legislation that would strip Andrew of succession rights. And 506 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 15: he actually wrote this to his British counterpart to let 507 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 15: him know of Australia's position. It looks it's a very 508 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 15: complex legal framework that would surround this changing of the 509 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 15: line of succession, but it means that these changes require 510 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 15: all countries where King Charles is head of state, including Australia, 511 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 15: to pass new law. Minister has said these are grave 512 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 15: allegations and Australia takes them very seriously. So he's made 513 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 15: that move. 514 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 9: Now. 515 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: It's interesting what did the Australian public think of that, 516 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: you know, down at the pub, because I had spoke 517 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: to our deputy Prime minister here going called David Seymour 518 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: about this last week and he said so many people 519 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: have to die in order that he would actually become king. 520 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: It's not probably not worth your time passing a law. 521 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 9: Oh. 522 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 15: I think I can't speak for all Australians, but I 523 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 15: think they, you know, just in case, I think they're 524 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 15: going to support that move, just just saying. 525 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: All right, and you've got a monsoon low hitting your way. 526 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 15: Oh, this is quite nasty. In fact, some areas of 527 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 15: Australia could actually get a year's worth of rain in 528 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 15: just one week. And these are parts of South Australia 529 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 15: right across Queensland and New South Wales. And of course 530 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 15: there's a risk of a great deal of flash flooding 531 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 15: with this monsoon low. The forecast obviously follows this record 532 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 15: breaking that we've suffered through in recent times. The Buerau 533 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 15: Mineology has issued these quite a number of severe weather 534 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 15: warnings for today, and we know that intense rainfalls expected. 535 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 15: For instance, some places could get brace yourself two hundred 536 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 15: to three one hundred millimeters of rain over just a 537 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 15: handful of days. And Melbourne isn't in the clear either. 538 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 15: We've got thunderstorms coming, we've got heavy rain, flash flooding, 539 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 15: so it's going to be a land of extremes throughout 540 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 15: the day and. 541 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: The rest of the week. Donald appreciate that. Donald de Malo, 542 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: our Australia correspondent time is eleven minutes away from six. 543 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: By the way, the price of oil is staying where 544 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: it was most of for the last few days, which 545 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: is its highest price in six months, around seventy two 546 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: dollars a barrel, start of the year at sixty This 547 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: is all over well, partly the supply issues, but also 548 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: there's the war in the Middle East, the potential four 549 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: and the military built up of the US. Now, I 550 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: am told that the Strait of Humus is where you 551 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: want to be watching. But there are talks heading to 552 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: Geneva this week, so some optimism there. Electricity demand is 553 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: going to increase in this country by twenty five percent 554 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: over the next ten years, evs, data centers, commercial industrial uses. 555 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: They will lead the charge. It's part of the reason 556 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: that Genesis is doing this four hundred million dollar equity 557 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: raise to fast track solar and batteries to smooth out 558 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: Huntley's supply during dry years. John Harbord is the Major 559 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: Electricity Users Group chair and joins us this morning. Hi John, 560 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: Good morning. So you represent the likes of Fonterra Woolies, 561 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: who's in and still big users. How worried are they 562 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: about the security of electricity in this country? 563 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 7: Look, security of electricity is pretty critical. When you run 564 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 7: a manufacturing business and you need to be operating twenty 565 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 7: four to seven, you need to know that the electricity 566 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 7: is going to be there every minute of every day. 567 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: What's driving the increase in their demand? Are they expanding 568 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: or is it decarbonizational? By both, it's. 569 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 7: An element of both. The other thing that's driving electrification 570 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 7: is obviously lack of domestic gas. So people who are 571 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 7: who can are trying to move away from using gas, 572 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 7: and one of the most attractive options obviously is electricity. 573 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: Does this announcement ease their minds? 574 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 7: Certainly it's welcome from a security of supply perspective. The 575 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 7: one thing that Genesis is leaning into very heavily is 576 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 7: dispatchable firming capacity, which is just a fancy way of 577 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 7: saying an ability to store electricity and then put it 578 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 7: into the system when you know, when it's we don't 579 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 7: have enough water in the hydro lakes and the sun 580 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 7: and the wind aren't cooperating, and that's the most important 581 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 7: electricity for the system. You know, that backup supply that's 582 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 7: there whenever you need it. So look, I think from 583 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 7: that perspective it's a really really good thing. It doesn't 584 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 7: do much of the short term for affordability issues, but 585 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 7: that's a whole other issue. 586 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that. I've found it an interesting yesterday 587 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: everyone was focusing on the solar but it's more of 588 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: the big battery at Huntley that will smooth the dry 589 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: years that's more important here, surely. 590 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's from our perspective that's really really critical. But 591 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 7: the solar aspect is really important as well. Now it 592 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 7: has to be put in the context that our other 593 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 7: large generators are also planning to build a lot of solar, 594 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 7: and the theory is that if you build a lot 595 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 7: of solar, you generate a lot more electricity. During summer, 596 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 7: which is when solar electricity obviously is more effective. But 597 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 7: what that means is the hydrogenerators keep more of the 598 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 7: water in the lakes because they don't need to use it, 599 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 7: and then that's available during winter when we're often short. 600 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: Gotcha, John, Appreciate your time, John Harvard, Major Electricity Users 601 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: Group here welcoming that announcement yesterday. It is ate away 602 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: from six News Talk. 603 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: Seb get ahead of the headlines on early edition with 604 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: Ryan Branch and one roof Love Where you Live. 605 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: News Talks'd be five away from sex News Talks. He'd 606 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: be Mike is here with you next. Good morning, Mike, 607 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: Sure to see you Ryan. What's on the show today? 608 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 6: Well? 609 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: Andy Willman? Oh right, okay, Now, so he was. 610 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 10: Behind top Gear and then the Grand Tour and now 611 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 10: Clarkson's Farm. 612 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: What is the producer of it? He's the producer. 613 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 10: Well, if you ever watched top Gear, he became sort 614 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 10: of famous. You never seen him, but he became famous. 615 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 10: Every time they did a thing, they'd get a note 616 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 10: and they go, oh, message from mister Wilman, and that's 617 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 10: the Willman. So he's the he's the genius behind it all. 618 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: Did they ever figure out who the stick was or 619 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: the guard. 620 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 10: We know who the stick is. There's been several sticks 621 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 10: in the same guy, but no, it wasn't the same guy. 622 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 10: So what happens is that generally once one stick goes 623 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 10: because you never know when the stick goes because you 624 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 10: never saw the stick. But once the stick goes, some 625 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 10: guy pops up in the British press and goes, oh, 626 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 10: I was the stick. 627 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: Tubbies, we know we no, no, no, we know. 628 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 10: Well, they're just guys who were moderately okay at driving 629 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 10: a car but never quite make it to f one 630 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 10: right because a lot of people remember, I'm Schumacher was 631 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 10: it was claimed while Michael Schumacher was claimed was the stick, 632 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 10: and of course they were never quite that good. And 633 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 10: Schumacher famously came on one of the episodes and they 634 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 10: went are you the stick and he went no. So anyway, 635 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 10: so he's on the program to also we make but 636 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 10: it's four years since the war started. Yeah, four So 637 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 10: we got the EU EU ambassador to this country is 638 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 10: rolling on into the studio to give the. 639 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: I spoke to someone from their Foreign ministry last week 640 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: and they want to set up like a war crimes 641 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: tribunal to try and go after really well, yeah, I 642 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: mean it doesn't do. It's not gonna get potent setting there. 643 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 10: I'd concentrate on finishing the war first. Well, and then 644 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 10: you've got that pit. 645 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: You know, you've got to go at it from all angles. 646 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: I reckon, you reckon the war will end. And when 647 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: the war, when you've got to be ready to go, 648 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: When when's it going to end? Well, I would have 649 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: said two years ago it was probably going to be 650 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: over and count and counting. Have a great Tuesday, See 651 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: you tomorrow. 652 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 653 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 654 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio