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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It turns out the crew on the bridge

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Speaker 1: of the ferry that ran aground and not happy to

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Speaker 1: be accused of ducking out for coffee just before it happened.

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Speaker 1: That was what New Zealand First had said on Twitter yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They said that the crew had put the boat on

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Speaker 1: autopilot and went out to get a coffee and then

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Speaker 1: couldn't get the autopilot off in time. Here's Winston Peters

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Speaker 1: on the Country today.

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Speaker 2: When I read the response in the June Herald, I thought, quicky,

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Speaker 2: that's not a denial, while would you need an inquiry?

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Speaker 2: Four we heating the four weast letter into something as

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Speaker 2: simple as that? This is not complicated now.

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Speaker 1: The crew were unionized, The union has a lawyer. The

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Speaker 1: lawyer as Troy stayed with us. Now, hey Troy, Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are I very well? Thank you? Did they duck

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Speaker 1: out for coffee?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Nobody on the bridge. Nobody on the bridge duck out

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Speaker 1: for coffee.

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Speaker 3: Regarding New Zealand First comments on Twitter last night and

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Speaker 3: Minister Pez this morning, both are quite frankly unhelpful and

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Speaker 3: it astounds me that the acting Prime Minister would raise

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Speaker 3: unsubstantiated rumor and conjecture in the middle with an active investigation.

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Speaker 3: No crew went out at Ness Cafe gates, if you

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Speaker 3: want to call it, that is little more than unsubstantiated rumor.

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Speaker 1: Did they put the vessel on autopilot?

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Speaker 3: So the Mulborough District Council Harbard Master has addressed this

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Speaker 3: point already. The point at which the vessel incident occurred,

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Speaker 3: the vessel was able to be on autopilot and the

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Speaker 3: steering configurations used for the departure of the vessel were

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Speaker 3: in line with standard operations at the hands of experienced crew.

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Speaker 3: The presence of autopilot hasn't been fayed as an issue

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Speaker 3: for the departure of the vessel.

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Speaker 1: Was ye okay, So are you saying yes, it was

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Speaker 1: on autopilot?

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Speaker 3: Autopilot is an aspect on the operation of the vessel

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Speaker 3: at that time.

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Speaker 1: Episode yes, were they struggling to get it off autopilot?

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Speaker 3: So the investigation involves a large number of quite complex systems.

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Speaker 3: We're actively engaging with that investigation, as are the crew

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Speaker 3: trying to get to grips with what happened. Unfortunately, we're

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Speaker 3: not at a positionion where we can conclusively say for

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Speaker 3: sure what happened and provide you specific comment.

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Speaker 1: Have any of the members of the bridge crew said

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Speaker 1: to you, yes, we couldn't get it off autopilot.

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Speaker 3: So, as I say, the engagement we're having with the crew,

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Speaker 3: that's still subject to the investigation. So I'm not in

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Speaker 3: a position to disclose that as yet.

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Speaker 1: What action are you going to take that? If they've

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Speaker 1: engaged you, there's a point for that, so what are

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Speaker 1: you supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: So we're advocating for their interests in this matter. Ky

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Speaker 3: Rail are independently advised. We're taking them through the investigation

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Speaker 3: process first of all with take Transport Act Acts and

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Speaker 3: investigation Commission, and then should they choose Maritime Zeland as

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Speaker 3: the regulator, will come through with an investigation.

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Speaker 1: With respect to what Winston Peter's in New Zealand first said,

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Speaker 1: are you going to do anything there?

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Speaker 3: So we can take instruction on that point, But I

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Speaker 3: think giving any further oxygen just does a disservice to

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Speaker 3: the crew and the professionalism with which they handled the

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Speaker 3: vessel during and after the investigation after the incident.

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Speaker 1: Rather, Troy, thank you for your time, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Troy staid, maritime lawyer. So it was an order pilot

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