1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement, Communities, Life 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Your Way news talk said b. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: The gust of living. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: Everyone, and it's comboding to you. It is the eleventh 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: of July at seven minutes after six. I'm Andrew Dickinson 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: for Mike Hosking, who is back on Monday. He's on holiday. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Coming up on the program today. There is a glimmer 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: of hope for interest rates after the Reserve Bank's decisions yesterday. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: Michael Riddell used to work for the Reserve Bank and 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 3: he's going to join us just after seven to talk 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: about that. Here's some good news to you. Constructing costs down, 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: It's all good news. Oh actually there's a little bit 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: of bad news and the construction costs being down, but 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: that's just what it is. Tommy Honey is joining me 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: on that. And then there's that leaked safety bulletin about 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: the grounding of the other Telly Goodness me. Winston Peters 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: is going to come on the program just after seven 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: thirty on the national embarrassment of this beached ferry. You 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: can text me on ninety two ninety two. You can 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: email Dickens at news Talks, ZEBB dot co dot nz 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: head zibe how much good faith can one company lose? 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: Transpower is in the gun over the infamous unbolted pylon 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: collapse which knocked out power to much of the North 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: and after the initial shock that there was a cut 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: caused by pure incompetence, the company talked with affected companies 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: and everyone thought things were going well. Everyone thought, oh, 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: look there's a bit of good faith happening here right now. 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: But then David Knight, Transpowers Executive General Manager for Strategy, 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: Regulation and Governance, How big is thatman's business card? He 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: came out and said the state owned company's liability for 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: losses is not straightforward. So businesses who think they have 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: suffered losses as a result of the outage should lodge 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: a claim with their insurance, not me, says David. And 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: Transpower also said, we can't guarantee that there won't be 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: power cuts. That's why you should have insurance. All right, Well, 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: maybe that is a fair call when you're talking about 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: acts of God, but you should guarantee that your maintenance 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: crew will not undo too many bolts. This episode was 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: not an act of God. It was an act of fools. 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: So that's not the insurance company's problem. It's Transpower's problem. Now. 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: Darren Fisher is a good bloke and he's from the 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Northern Chamber of Commerce. He's talking to Transpower, he's talking 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: to a number of politicians in the region, and he's 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: been talking to local businesses. He confirms that their legal 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: complexity is large and it could take multiple years and 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: multiple millions of dollars to resolve, or Transpower could discover 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 3: their empathy and take the head on the chin. When 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: you've screwed up, you've screwed up, and then to try 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: and walk away from the liability from the screw up 51 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: is to heap insult on injury. I don't think there's 52 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: anyone in this country who doesn't think just pay up Transpower. 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds. 54 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, we've got this UK man alleged to have killed 55 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: a BBC commentator's wife and two children with a crossbow. 56 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: The good news is he's been captured in a symmetry 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: and police threw everything they had at the Manhunds. 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: We have extensive police resources deployed to various locations in 59 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: North London and also the Bushy area of Hertfordshire. The 60 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: manhunt also involves armed police officers and specialist search teams 61 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: responding at pace. 62 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: Obviously, the people in Bushy were freaking out. 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 5: Suddenly you notice police. 64 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 6: There was police outside in black uniform with sort of 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 6: sent me automatic guns. 66 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 7: If someone is able to freely walk around with a 67 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 7: weapon such as a crossbow, you know, how can any 68 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 7: of us feel safe going out in broad daylight? 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: Yes, it was very Gothic, wasn't it. Maybe out to 70 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: the United States and Blincoln has announced the US ramping 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: up assistance to Ukraine. 72 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 8: As we speak. 73 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 9: The transfer of F sixteen jets is under way, coming 74 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 9: from Denmark, coming from the Netherlands, and those jets, those 75 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 9: jets will be flying in the skies of Ukraine this summer. 76 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: And Norway are sending planes too. 77 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 10: Even after the war, when Ukraine has prevailed and when 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 10: we collectively have showed the president Putin and this type 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 10: of behavior cannot be accepted in Europe, Ukraine still need too, 80 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 10: needs to defend itself, all. 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: Right, NATO there to rock and roll. Here we go. 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: A reminder from Donald Trump that the funding train could 83 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 3: look very different for NATO under his presidency. 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 5: Sir may I ask you a question. 85 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 11: If we don't pay our bills, will you protect us 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 11: from Russia? I said, you mean you're delinquent. They said yes, 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 11: with delinquent. Let's say, with delinquent, would you protect us? 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 11: I said no, I will not protect you from Russia. 89 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: He only needs one person to actually have a conversation, 90 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: doesn't he Anyway? Still in America, this is a big 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: news Democrat Megadona. George Clooney, who's got nothing else to 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: do at the moment, has written an op edge in 93 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: the New York Times, and he said, I love Joe, 94 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: but you've got to go. 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 12: The Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at 96 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 12: the fundraiser was not the Joe big effing deal Biden 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 12: of twenty ten. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 12: twenty twenty. He was the same man we all witnessed 99 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 12: at the debate. 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: That was George's words, spoken by an actor. Just to 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: clarify things. He hasn't suddenly transitioned or anything like that. No, 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: I'll move on. In fact, Noah, the puns write themselves 103 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: with this story. We will try to avoid them. I 104 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: heard Ryan Bridge, he couldn't avoid it at all with 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: his snake jokes. There were snakes on a plane on 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: a flight to China. Had a man had to put 107 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: up with all of them? Are than once he was 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: stopped at was trying to enter China and inside his 109 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: trousers one hundred and four live snakes. This must be 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: pretty big pants in China, because one hundred and four 111 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: snakes is the biggest package. This comes after a man 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: tried to smuggle four hundred and fifty four endangered turtles 113 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: came with them, the majority were also down his pants. 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: My lord, are those snakes and turtles in your pants? 115 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: Or are you an alien? Fascinating stories six fourteen. So 116 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: interest rates remain high, there is hope on the horizon. 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: And yesterday's statement the Reserve Bank said they replaced the 118 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: standard phrase of the o CR, saying that rates needed 119 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: to stay higher for longer, with the o CR now 120 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: needing to stay restrictive. How many words is that seven? 121 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: That's enough to bring a glimmer of smile to economists. 122 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: We'll talk about this later with Michael Raddell after seven. 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: But next Andrew killerher with the market view. 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: The mist Breakfast hears. 125 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 3: Talk to you b Andrew Dickinson for Mike. He's back Monday, 126 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: all new Galaxy phones details and prices on the way. 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: It is six seventeen. Andrew Kelleher, Jami Wealth, welcome to 128 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: the program. 129 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 8: Good morning, mister Dickens. 130 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: So you've had the magnifying glass and you've looked at 131 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: the twenty or twenty five words that have come out 132 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: from the Reserve Bank, and you've found a couple that 133 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: are hopeful. 134 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 8: That that is that is true. So let's just get 135 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 8: the rates were left unchanged. 136 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 7: That sort of little piece got sort of lost in 137 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 7: a lot of the rhetoric afterwards, isn't it. But so 138 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 7: the official cash right left unchanged yesday, but there's headlines 139 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 7: in them, their statements. So the incumpanies is the market 140 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 7: reaction I think was indicative of the significance of some 141 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 7: of those comments. 142 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 8: So let's talk about that market reaction. 143 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 7: First, A significant step down in wholesale interest rates. 144 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 8: So we refer to a wholesale rate called the swap rate. 145 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 7: Now that's important in determining where fixed rate mortgages are set. 146 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 7: So that one year raids or the one years what 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 7: rate fell twenty basis points. So it's just put at 148 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 7: five point six percent now at its peak sort of 149 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 7: in the last quarter of last year andrew that rate 150 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 7: was at six percent, so it's now significantly lower than 151 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 7: it was. The two year rate also fell about twenty 152 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 7: points to four point six Now, while that doesn't seem 153 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 7: like a lot from a retail rate perspective, it's significant 154 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 7: in the wholesale market and sends an important signal. So 155 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 7: the falls less pronounced in the longer term rates of 156 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 7: five year are going down twelve basis points. Now, what 157 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 7: triggered that was in the statement and in the accompanying 158 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 7: summary Record of meeting. And in the statement, the key 159 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 7: sentence was they said that monetary policy will need to 160 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 7: remain restrictive, but the extent of that restraint will be 161 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 7: tempered over time consistent with the expected decline in inflation pressures. 162 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 8: Now, when we go to the summary record of the meeting, 163 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 8: that's the actual record. 164 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 7: Of the meeting of the Monetary Policy Committee, they said 165 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 7: that inflation will return to the one point three percent 166 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 7: ban in the second half of two four. 167 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 8: We knew that, but then they reference the. 168 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 7: Recent business and consumer surveys with pointing to declining activity, 169 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 7: and they discussed the risk that this may indicate that 170 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 7: tight monetary policy is feeding through to domestic demand more 171 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 7: strongly than expected. 172 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 8: So the door is open for change. 173 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 7: And that was enough to make the money market sort 174 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 7: of take the punt that it signals an increased possibility 175 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 7: that there RB could sort of pivot away from that 176 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 7: second half of next to your timing the interest rate cuts. 177 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 7: So yeah, the door is open. There's a chink in 178 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 7: their armor. The market's now sort of fairly convinced that 179 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 7: the bank will be cutting by November, but. 180 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 8: Not only that. 181 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 7: And here's the little interesting but there's actually now talk, 182 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 7: there was talk around the traps, you know, on the 183 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 7: lines and everything yesterday that the quantum of that cut 184 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 7: could actually go up, so that maybe you could see 185 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 7: a fifty basis point cut. So look, I think August. 186 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 7: I think August is too early. I don't think you'll 187 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 7: see a cut in August. I'm still sticking. I still 188 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 7: sticking with a view that we'll all we'll get an 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 7: early Christmas present from our friends in the terrace in Wellington. 190 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I heard about the bigger cuts in November, but 191 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 3: I also did hear about smaller cuts in August, and 192 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: we're going to put this autum Michael Radella but later 193 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: on and see which way he goes. Migration figures are 194 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: out yesterday too. We're still leaving. 195 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're still leaving, but generally there's still the massive 196 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 7: influx of people that's been a feature of the last 197 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 7: eighty months, hasn't it. So we've had the greatest population 198 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 7: great we've seen in decades. 199 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 8: Got the latest update yesterday. 200 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 7: So while people are still arriving, more New Zealanders than 201 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 7: ever are heading away. So whether it isn't in fact right, 202 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 7: the grass certainly seems to be greener in distant shores. 203 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 7: So for the record annual net permanent long term migration 204 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 7: now sitting at eighty three thousand for the twelve months 205 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 7: at the end of May. The peak was back in 206 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 7: October twenty three, was at one hundred and thirty six thousand. 207 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 7: The twelve month rolling total has been declining since then, 208 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 7: so yeah, there's more of us leaving than ever. The 209 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 7: net loss of New Zealand citizens in the twelve months 210 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 7: just over sixty thousand. Mogan arrivals were high, but migrant 211 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 7: departures up more than that. That's why the net figure 212 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 7: is falling. The key water cooler takeaway Andrew is that 213 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 7: migration is still strong. It's still adding to population, but 214 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 7: the trend is slowing and there's lots of New Zealanders 215 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 7: heading elsewhere in the bulk of them are going. 216 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: To Australia because house and numbers. 217 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 8: Very positive this morning. 218 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 7: Actually, the Dow Jones is up half a percent, almost 219 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 7: two hundred points thirty nine, four hundred and eighty five. 220 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 7: The S and P five hundred is up points sixty 221 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 7: nine percent five sixty one five and the NASDAK up 222 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 7: almost one percent one hundred and seventy seven points eighteen 223 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 7: thoy six hundred and six. 224 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 8: The fort Sey one hundred. 225 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 7: They're shaking off that election result that was higher two 226 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 7: thirds of percent eight one ninety three. The nicket was 227 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 7: higher up two hundred and fifty one points four one 228 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 7: eighty three. One small fall in the Shanghai composite. The 229 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 7: Aussie is yesterday down thirteen points, so not much seven 230 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 7: eight one six. But we cheered the Reserve Bank yesterday 231 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 7: on the ins ofex fifty it was up ninety five 232 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 7: points point eight percent seven nine hundred and forty three. 233 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 7: One key we dollar slightly lower because of the prospect 234 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 7: of intral straight cuts points six oh seven eight against 235 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 7: the US port nine oh one four ossie point five 236 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 7: six one six against the euro point four to seven 237 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 7: three four pounds ninety eight point three two Japanese yen 238 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 7: gold is trading at two thousand, three hundred and seventy 239 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 7: three dollars in break cruit eighty five dollars and nine cents. 240 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: Galagher from jaliy and my wealth. I thank you for 241 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: your time. Six twenty two is the time the best 242 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: beach in the world is back maybe and we're talking 243 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: about Cathedral Cove is a five million dollars temporary fix. 244 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: And we'll go to the Corimandle after the six thirty news. 245 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: But next new phones here on New Stalks. 246 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: NB the mic Hosking Breakfast. 247 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: New Salks VB six twenty five. 248 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Trending now will Chemist Warehouse the home of big brand vitamins. 249 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: New phones, Samsung a Galaxy Unpacked event. It was live 250 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: in Paris a few hours ago. Would we get two 251 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: new phones that foldable? New Swmart watchers and earbuds? And 252 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 3: this is twenty twenty four did we get ai? You 253 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: better leave it today? 254 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 13: I am excited to announce we're building the Galaxy AI 255 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 13: ecosystem in a way only some. Some can cross device 256 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 13: intelligence that helps keeper seamlessly achieve the O wors across 257 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 13: multiple devices wherever they are, whereever they want. 258 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Okay, this is called Galaxy AI. It's pretty clever, especially 259 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: when you're editing photos and when it comes to translation, 260 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: which is great for travel. The new earbuds are called 261 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: the Galaxy Buds three and the Galaxy Buds three Pro, 262 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: and they can literally translate conversations in real time. Wow, 263 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: sixteen different languages with more to come. What did dougas 264 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: Adams doing the and the Hiker's Guides? The thing did 265 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: the Babelfish? You can stuck a fish in your ear 266 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: now and it will translate for you. The Babelfish is 267 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: in fact now. The Galaxy Buds three and the Galaxy 268 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: Buds three Pro. Two watches, the Galaxy Watch seven and 269 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: the new super tough Galaxy Watch Ultra, which it looks 270 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: a bit unusual. It has a round face on the 271 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: square body. Can take a lot of punishment, goes very 272 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: deep underwater and very high up up Mount Everest. If 273 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: you can handle the cues and then there are phones, 274 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: the Galaxy Z flippicks, which is the clamshell one and six. Okay, 275 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: the Galaxy Z flippick flip six. There we go. It's 276 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: the X on the end of the six that is 277 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: the clamshell one. Then there's the Galaxy Z fold six, 278 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: the one that looks like a book. We've got big 279 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: camera up grades for both of these, and as you'd expect, 280 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: that thinner more powerful than ever. How much the Galaxy 281 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: Z flip six starts at twenty ninety nine dollars top 282 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: of the range Z is three seven nine nine. 283 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues Andrew 284 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar the Art 285 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: of Performance News Talks B. 286 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: He wanted to welcome to the program. So Anthony Blincoln 287 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: and the United States, they're setting more kit to Ukraine 288 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: because lanskus are for at. Norway is sending six f 289 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: sixteen's to join the two they've already sent because Zolonsky 290 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: wants it. Zolonsky wants all the thirty two states in 291 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: the NATO to send more stuff. So what's Italy going 292 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: to give? What is Italy going to give what have 293 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: they got to give? Joe McKenna from Rome in about 294 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: ten minutes time. It's now twenty two to seven. 295 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: Keep going on away again about down. 296 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 5: The zea, the scene. 297 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: Great news, the best beach in the world, Cathedral Cove. 298 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: You can get to the sea, you can get there, 299 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: it's walking access will be restored before summer. It's been 300 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: closed since sie Cone Gabriel and the government's given five 301 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: million dollars for a short term fix. So the general 302 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: manager of Destination Hodaki Coramandel is Hadley Dryden, who must 303 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: be a happy man. Hello Hadley, morning Andrew. 304 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, we're pretty happy here in the cormandaal that great news. 305 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: What's it been now that it's been closed? 306 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 14: Part of men? 307 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: How long has it been that it's been closed? 308 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 14: Oh, closince the events and Gabriel. 309 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: So I'm just we didn't do the month count up, 310 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: but there we go. It's a long long time. And 311 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: that was a big, big beach. It's you Is it 312 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: your biggest attraction? 313 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 14: Yeah, and it's not far from the likes of hot 314 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 14: Water Beach and of course the community of Patiana as well, 315 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 14: so there's a lot of polling power that Cathedral Cove 316 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 14: has for the whole of the region and in fact 317 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 14: New Zealand to an extent as well. It's a bit 318 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 14: of a poster child for the country, so it's pretty 319 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 14: important that it's back for the summer. 320 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: So run us through the things is only five million 321 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: dollars and it's only temporary. 322 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think at the moment it's a case of 323 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 14: we'll take what we can get and we'll support the 324 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 14: process in terms of delivering what we can for this 325 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 14: summer and hopefully building an experience that is even better 326 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 14: than what it was going forward. 327 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so it will be good enough to work. I've 328 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: done this walk in a number of times, you know. 329 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: I love the walk and it's beautiful and it's one 330 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: of the easiest because it's all sealed, you know. But 331 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: then I saw with the damage there's a lot of 332 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: stairs that actually fell down. How would you like it improved? 333 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 14: I think it's well, it was a little bit like 334 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 14: the yellow brick road, so really easy access for most people, 335 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 14: but obviously a little bit challenging with the pieces that 336 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 14: were blown out in the storm. But I think it's 337 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 14: about the overall experience that's improved. So from a destination 338 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 14: management perspective, how it benefits the community, the wider environment, 339 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 14: and if there's any other additional parts that can be 340 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 14: locked out to extend the experience. Even so, during the 341 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 14: last summer that we did have, there was two Party Point, 342 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 14: which is at the southern end of Hahei that was 343 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 14: opened up and promoted as a walkway, and you see 344 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 14: streams of visitors walking to that point as well. So 345 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 14: there's potential to try and encourage people to stay a 346 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 14: little bit longer and help support the community a little 347 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 14: bit more so and. 348 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: Walk a little bit further. One of the things about 349 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: the damage into Cathedral Cove is of course the roof 350 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: of the actual arch that you could walk through between 351 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: the two beaches. The roof had come down, you know, 352 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: So will we be able to go through that arch 353 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: or is that now forbidden because of the risk and 354 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: is it going to be too difficult to stabilize the roof? 355 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 14: Yeah too really to say from my perspective and department 356 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 14: the Conservation will obviously be looking at that closely, but 357 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 14: I think it's only periodically where there's a rock fall 358 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 14: from the archway, so it might be that they just 359 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 14: close it intimittently, depending on the weather, and you know, 360 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 14: people as it is are still taking a chance and 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 14: will wander through anyway, even if they've had access through 362 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 14: by the boat. So I think we have to be 363 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 14: pretty pragmatic about the response there too. 364 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: Very good and also what else do you want done 365 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: on the Coromandal? I can tell you the roads are terrible. 366 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: I mean they always have been before twenty five A 367 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: went down. I mean you've got one lane bridges all 368 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: over the place, You've got them in Titler, You've got 369 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: them everywhere and they hold up everything. Is there any 370 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: talk of more investment into this area because more and 371 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: more people are living there permanently too. 372 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 14: Yeah, the local council, it's fair to say that's their 373 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 14: number one priority. So for many who visit the Coramander 374 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 14: lost and the roads that are pretty much back to 375 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 14: a good space. But when you lock a little bit closer, 376 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 14: the resilience of the network is still it requires a 377 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 14: lot of upgrades and protection, so we don't have to 378 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 14: go through what we did to the same extent with 379 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 14: State Higher twenty five A for example. So there's a 380 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 14: huge amount of work and advocacy that's going into fixing 381 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 14: up the roads. So we're more resilient in the future. 382 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 14: And the Coromantal Fairy, that's probably another one that suffer 383 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 14: through COVID. The ferry to Auckland stopped and we had 384 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 14: the cove and the road blowout, so we've had a 385 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 14: bit of a rough time here in the Coromandel. So yeah, 386 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 14: I think any support that we can get, whether it's 387 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 14: through the COVID, the faery or most definitely the roads, 388 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 14: we're certainly chasing that. 389 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 15: Well. 390 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: Good on your Handley, Congratulations and good luck and thank 391 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: you so much for your time. Hadley Dryden from Hola 392 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: Conremandal Promotions. It is now seventeen minutes to seven. And 393 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: on the topic of tourism, the stats n Z figures 394 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: on migration came out yesterday and that includes tourism numbers. 395 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. Tourism numbers have stored. So that's 396 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: not going to make Hadley happy, is it. How stored 397 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: are they? Well, I'll run through this. Just before seven o'clock. 398 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: Joe McKenna is on the way. This is New Stalks MB, 399 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: the MIC hosting breakfast New STALKSB. It is coming up 400 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: fourteen to seven. 401 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance, peace of mind 402 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 403 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: Joe McKenna joins us. Hello, Joe, good morning, Andrew sweating 404 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: in Italy. But we'll talk about the weather late later 405 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: because I hear it's bad or good, depending on what 406 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: you like. But Italy has committed more help for Ukraine. 407 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 16: Yes, the Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney is at the 408 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 16: NATO's summit in Washington. 409 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: Now. 410 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 16: She's been critical of the European Union from time to time. 411 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 16: She is of the right wing persuasion, but her support 412 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 16: for NATO and Ukraine has been very solid. And she's 413 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 16: announced that Italy will be giving another samp Te air 414 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 16: defense system to shoot down Russian missiles. And that follows, 415 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 16: of course, what we've heard about NATO beginning to send 416 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 16: the long promist F sixteen jets to Ukraine as well. 417 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: Indeed as well. Zelenski has asked everybody to pitch in, 418 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: having they all thirty two nations, and we've seen Norways 419 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: done it, we've seen the States done it, and now 420 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 3: Italy has done it. And well done, thank you so 421 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: very very much. Controversially, Beerlasconi a round the controversial figure 422 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: in Italian politics. It's getting an airport named after him. 423 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 10: That's right. 424 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 16: It's a year after he died and there's been a 425 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 16: political fuor because you have to remember that Silvio Belisconi, 426 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 16: three time prime minister, was convicted of tax evasion and 427 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 16: his colleague Transport Minister Matteo Slovini from the right wing 428 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 16: League Party is pushing him his name forward to be 429 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 16: the name of Milan's currently called Malpensa airport. But you 430 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 16: have to remember Rome airport is named after Leono Leonardo 431 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 16: da Vinci, Venice is named after the explorer Marco Polo, 432 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 16: and Palermo Airport is named after two judges, Falcone and 433 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 16: bor Borslino, who were assassinated by the mafia because of 434 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 16: their efforts to fight the mafia. So you know, it's 435 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 16: a big call to put Silvio Belusconi in the same 436 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 16: league as some of these names. 437 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 3: Milan that you'd name the airport after a football player, 438 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: wouldn't you, since they've got two amazing football sides up there, 439 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: Or you do it after a fashion designer since of 440 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: course they believe they are the height of fashion, don't they. 441 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: So you know, but. 442 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 16: Spotted and of course Sylvio bert is going to owned 443 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 16: one of the Milan football teams, so there's even more 444 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 16: reason to name it after a football player. 445 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: Well he made some good telly for a little while anyway, 446 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: so there we go. Meanwhile, we mentioned how hot it's 447 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 3: hot everywhere, but how hot is it in Italy? 448 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 16: Yeah, well this is part of the heat wave sweeping Europe. 449 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 16: We've had about thirty seven degrees today in Rome. It's 450 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 16: going up to thirty eight tomorrow. The Health Ministry has 451 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 16: issued a red alert heat wave warning for seven Italian 452 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 16: cities for tomorrow, and that includes Turin, Rome and Trieste 453 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 16: in the north. And this has been driven by an 454 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 16: African anti cyclone bringing these scorching temperatures across the Mediterranean. 455 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 16: And even though it's going to drop off it on 456 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 16: satur I think we're going to see more of this 457 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 16: kind of weather in the coming weeks. 458 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: Do you like it? 459 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: I like a bit of. 460 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 16: It, But this is extreme today and I haven't got 461 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 16: aircorn in my house, so it's a little hot in here. 462 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no one does in Europe. So the true because 463 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: we've got New Zealanders coming over for the summer season, 464 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 3: go and do your stuff early in the morning, because 465 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: otherwise it's just too hot. 466 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 16: Great idea and then you can party late at night. 467 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: Very good stuff and I thank you so much done McKenna. 468 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 16: Thanks Andrew. 469 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: It is now eleven minutes to seven. We've going to 470 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 3: text through about comments about the coramandal's roading structure and 471 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: somebody says, well, look you it shouldn't be about resilience 472 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: because we're talking about all the one lane bridges. There 473 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: shouldn't be about resilience, which is what Hadley said. It 474 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: shouldn't be about resilience. It should be about future proofing 475 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: the network. But when have we ever future proofed our networks? 476 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: Is possibly the motto of New Zealand. It is ten 477 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 3: to seven. The tourist numbers are next with the biz 478 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: and by the way, Winston Peters on the datary ferry 479 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 3: and the leaked safety bulletin is just after the seven 480 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: to thirty news, so that is going to be fascinating. 481 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: It is ten to seven. 482 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on them, Mike Costing breakfasts with Bailey's Real 483 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: Estate News Talk. 484 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: Saib By the way, big news in the United States 485 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: is that George Cerney big Megadona for the Democrats, and 486 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: Joe Biden has put up an op ed in The 487 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: New York Times. At the title of it is I 488 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: love Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee. He 489 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: loves Joe Biden as a Senator, as a vice president, 490 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 3: as a president. I consider him a friend. There is 491 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: one battle he cannot win, the fight against time. He 492 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: sees all the scary stories that we're being told that 493 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: about what would happen if we change the nominees are 494 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 3: not true. So let's go in and do it. Poor 495 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: old Joe Biden facing a death by one thousand reckons. 496 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 3: It is a seven to seven zid b. 497 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: This is the biz, all the inns and the outs, 498 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: It's the fizz on the Mike Hosking breakfast on News Talk, 499 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: said b. 500 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: So, tourist numbers have stalled. It's a huge reason why 501 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: our economy is not recovering like we would. So the 502 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: stats New Zealand figures came out in yesterday for May 503 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty thousand overseas visitors coming for a trip. 504 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: That's up about twenty thousand or May of last year, 505 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 3: but only at eighty percent of pre COVID levels come 506 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: on back. It's a big reason why tourist of New 507 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: Zealand's doing a big promotion campaign during the off peak season. 508 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: It May, forty six percent of the arrivals were from Australia. 509 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 3: That's up nine percent from the US and eight percent 510 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: were from China. That's low, it should be higher. The 511 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: issue is it isn't supposed to get immediately better, or 512 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: the issue is that it will not get immediately better. 513 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: Forsyth Bar say there's little side of an increase in 514 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 3: passage of capacity during the next financial year. The main 515 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: problem is what we've reported on before. We have lost 516 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: major numbers in all key markets as being for being 517 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: attractive as a country to visit. People are still traveling, 518 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: they're just not wanting to come here. But despite getting 519 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: the numbers in or not getting the numbers in, we 520 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: ourselves love to travel. Two hundred and twenty three thousand 521 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: of US got on a plane in May, up twenty 522 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 3: thousand last year, ninety five percent of the pre COVID numbers. 523 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: This cost a living crisis is really hurting everybody, isn't 524 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: it really viciously? It's five to seven. Hey, some hopeful 525 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: signs for the economy, for US, for New Zealand and 526 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: for the ocr The interest rates, So there were a 527 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: few changes to the sentences in their statement, and suddenly 528 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: and the November cuts are starting to look very very 529 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 3: possible according to many economists, and in fact some yesterday 530 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 3: when as far I don't know quite what they were 531 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: on when as far to say we could bring forward 532 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: the ocr cuts to August. So some said we could 533 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: have a bigger cut in November, and some said we 534 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: could have some wall cup but we could have it 535 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 3: in August anyway. So at six of one, half a 536 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: dozen of the n what do I know? Which is 537 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: why we're talking to Michael Riddell, former Reserve Bank economists, 538 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: and he's coming onto the program right after the news Mememhile, 539 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: for the first time in twelve years, construction costs have 540 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: dropped and they now one point one percent in the 541 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 3: three months to June. And the supply is good, it's 542 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 3: back to normal. And the dwelling consent, well, i'll tell 543 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: you more about that later. This is all good news, 544 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: is it not the end of the end of inflation, 545 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: maybe the end of the high interest rates? Well, we'll 546 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: all find out next out. 547 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 6: I feel like this much good news on one show 548 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 6: since about February twenty twenty. 549 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: This is why I'm going on about it at length. 550 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: This is some good news and we need some good news. 551 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: So Michael Redell feel uncomfortable. Michael Radelle, form Reserve Bank governor, 552 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: is on the way. Also Executive director of the Construction 553 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 3: Industry Council, A glorious nick named gentlemen by the name 554 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: of Tommy Honey is going to join us to talk 555 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: about how construction costs are falling. My name is Andrew Dickens. 556 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm in for Mike Hosking, who's on holiday. Who's back 557 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: on Monday at News and Sport on New Zealand's number 558 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: one commercial radio station. 559 00:28:51,520 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 17: As next, you'll tell me. 560 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: Yemen the breakfast Show you Can Trust. Andrew Dickens on 561 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real 562 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three news Talks, I'd be. 563 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: I'll go on into you seven minutes after seven, The 564 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: predictable happens. The ocr staid steady, but there could be 565 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: good news in there. Maybe the Reserve bankers hinting headline 566 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: inflation could return to its three percent target within a 567 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: matter of months, and that is a shift from earlier forecasts. 568 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: There were just a few words. They were just a 569 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: bit different, but they were positive of informer Reserve Bank economists. 570 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: Michael Riddell joins me. Now, hello, Michael Andrew, are you 571 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: full of confidence now? 572 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 15: Not on the Reserve Bank or in the economy. I mean, 573 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 15: yesterday's statement was certainly a shift in the right direction, 574 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 15: but it was a real lurch. You know, it was 575 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 15: very very different in tone from the statement they brought 576 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 15: out only six weeks ago, which was then talking up 577 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 15: possible rate hikes later this year and not even beginning 578 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 15: to cut into August next year. So you know, it's 579 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 15: all over the place, the shift in the right direction. 580 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: So let's just talk about those words. They said that 581 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: the OCR needed to They used to say that the 582 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: OCR needed to stay They said this time, sorry, the 583 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: OCR needed to stay higher for longer. Now the OCR 584 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: needs to stay restrictive. So that's enough to create all 585 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: this sort of optimism. 586 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 15: That and a whole bunch of other stuff in the 587 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 15: wording of the statement. The overall tones of the statement 588 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 15: are very very different. They're now explicitly talking about the 589 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 15: fact that must start easing as the inflation pressures, whereas 590 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 15: last time round it was much more cletely quickly either way, 591 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 15: and then think their central forecast was, yeah, we're. 592 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: All desperate for a fall. I see that some predicted. 593 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: Almost everybody's predicting a November fall and rates, and possibly 594 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: a bigger one than previously expected. Would that be fair? 595 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 596 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 15: I mean, I think it's the timing that's changed more, 597 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 15: and in fact people aren't rolling out now. The possibility 598 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 15: of cutting August depends a lot on what next week's 599 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 15: CPI does. If the inflation numbers come through quite comfortably, 600 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 15: then this rhetoric yesterday would be consistent with beginning to 601 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 15: move at that point. But yeah, November seems like it's 602 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 15: more or less in the bag now you would have thought. 603 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: Okay, but are you not thinking about a smaller one 604 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: in August? Or is that too much? 605 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 15: I think most likely when they begin they'll start with 606 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 15: twenty five point adjustments, So I think if they were 607 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 15: to go with a fifty point right off, that would 608 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 15: probably be criticized again as not having laid the ground 609 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 15: for a properly, being quite inconsistent with the last monetary 610 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 15: policy statement, and so on and so forth. But these 611 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 15: guys do lurch, so nothing would be entirely surprising. 612 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: Okay, and you mentioned the CPI. The CPI is out 613 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: next week, and we've had some inflation good signs about 614 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: inflation from various figures that have come out over the 615 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: last little while. What do you think is happening there? 616 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 15: I mean, I think it was trening down that you know. 617 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 15: The point the reserve they're used to write me six 618 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 15: weeks ago was there are some price areas where prices 619 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 15: are holding up rates and insurance. It's just that those 620 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 15: have got nothing much to do with monetary policy. There 621 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 15: what we call them the jargon supply shocks things at 622 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 15: the reserve banks more is look through and focus on 623 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 15: the things that are driven by the state of the economy. 624 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 15: The economy is very weak. Reserve Bank statement acknowledges that 625 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 15: yesterday it looks like inflation is really beginning to fall 626 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 15: away quite sharply. But there'll be ups and downs, as 627 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 15: they have been in a bunch of other countries. 628 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 3: It's inevitable there we go. Everyone always tempers their predictions 629 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: with depending on the situation globally, and we saw some 630 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: bad confidence figures out of Australia the other day. So 631 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: what do you think we're seeing globally and then could 632 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: infect our return to lower rates in November. 633 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 15: I hope the global picture broadly is heading in the 634 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 15: support of direction. You know, we're seeing global economy slowing. 635 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 15: That's not surprising with intrastrates having been at these sort 636 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 15: of highest levels for fifteen years. For a year or 637 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 15: two now, Australia is a bit of an exception. They 638 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 15: probably haven't got rates high enough to get inflation comfortably down, 639 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 15: and so their economy and labor market are still running 640 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 15: on reasonably strongly, and that's one of the reasons why 641 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 15: there's such a big outflow. You see lots to Australia 642 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 15: at the moment, but broadly the environment is just a 643 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 15: vertically different, more favorable place for getting inflation down than 644 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 15: it was a year or especially two years ago. 645 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, and I thank you so much. 646 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: That is Michael Riddell, who is a former Reserve Bank economist. 647 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: It is now eleven after seven News talk ZB I 648 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: told you we had more good news for the first 649 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: time in twelve years. Construction costs of drop and they 650 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: fell one point one percent of the three months to June. 651 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: Material supply is back to normal. Dwelling consents though falling, 652 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: and there's a pipeline of jobs that's coming to completion, 653 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 3: and so what's coming next. But all of this is 654 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: ease pressure, freed up capacity, and reduce costs. So can 655 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: we build? Executive Director of the Construction Industry Council joins me. 656 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: Now it's Tommy Honey. 657 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 15: Hello, Tommy, Hi, Hi, how you doing? 658 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: Andrew? 659 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 18: Good to talk? 660 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: Is this good news? 661 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 18: It's well, yes it is, but there's you know, there's 662 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 18: it's a self cloud, it's a self aligning pat to 663 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 18: the cloud. It's great for those people who've been holding 664 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 18: back and waiting to build or renovate. And following on 665 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 18: from your previous interview, I think we've all been a 666 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 18: sort of weight and see process about inflation and where 667 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 18: the economy is going. So yeah, it's good news for 668 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 18: those wanting to build, but it's probably a little bit 669 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 18: foreboding for the construction sector itself. 670 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: And well, exactly, we've heard so many headlines about the 671 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: construction sector feeling the squeeze recently, companies going out to business, 672 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 3: et cetera. They're already operating at a bare minimum, you know, 673 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 3: so what's the future for them? 674 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 18: Well, the big thing for us in the construction sector 675 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 18: is pipeline. What are what jobs you have coming up? 676 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 18: And how far ahead can you see work so that 677 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 18: you can stay in business, keep employing people, keep building, 678 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 18: keeping work. And when things are slow, which they happen 679 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 18: in the last eighteen months, that pipeline gets small short 680 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 18: and shorter and shorter. So you know, a large construction 681 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 18: company is going to want you know, the huge ones 682 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 18: are going to want, you know, nine twelve months beyond 683 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 18: and pipeline. But your local builder building houses and a 684 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 18: small team sometimes that that pipeline is only three to 685 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 18: six months. When it drops down to one to two months, 686 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 18: you know it's time to belts. So we really we 687 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 18: appreciate the opportunities that increased competition brings, but it actually 688 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 18: often it's builders themselves reducing their margins as thin as 689 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 18: they can just so they can keep keeping work. So 690 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 18: good good, good to the clients. Tough on the builders 691 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 18: at the moment, but we hope that will turn. 692 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: That's economics one o one. So you say it will return. 693 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: How long will it take for recovery in your poor 694 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: beleagued sector. 695 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 18: Oh well, you know, you know, a stant inflation, people 696 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 18: expecting it to drop sharply. That's actually kind of a 697 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 18: good sign. Easy thing. So seen interest rates to come 698 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 18: down also a good sign. But we kind of follow 699 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 18: those those cycles, and so the quicker that cycle happens, 700 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 18: the quicker week in return. I always like to try 701 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 18: and to describe the sector as like a flywheel, you know, 702 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 18: and when it's up and running, you don't have to 703 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 18: add much to it to keep it going. But when 704 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 18: it slows down, it can take a long time to 705 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 18: crank up again and get back up to speed. So 706 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 18: that's what we're hoping for. I guess the good signs 707 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 18: in this news from core Logic is that the component 708 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 18: of construction that was due to the product side, if 709 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 18: you like, the supply chain, that has come back to 710 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 18: what they call normal because it did spike a lot 711 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 18: during COVID. 712 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: It was totally insane. So Tony, we wish you all 713 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 3: the very best of Like Tommy Honey, who is the 714 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 3: executive director of the Construction Industry Council, this is news 715 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: Talk z be on the way the Climate Change Minister. 716 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: His name is Simon what in case news talk zibby. 717 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 3: But with the time at seven fifteen, only six minutes 718 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: into the game, between England and the Netherlands in the 719 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 3: Euro's semi final, and this happened. 720 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 5: It's a good nick by Seamons. 721 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: It's Shermy Simons. It's a putigal. 722 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 19: He has never don lost. 723 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: Orange flash the nevolency. 724 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 3: Oh yes they do. Even though England is defensively minded 725 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 3: and with a defensive strategy. Still the Netherlands scored first 726 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: at six minutes. It's now fourteen minutes into the game 727 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: and the newsers it's still one nill to the Netherlands 728 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 3: and the UK are crying into their beer. Yes, Simon 729 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 3: Wat's climate change minister, next On has five pillars that 730 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: he wants to support. Seven sixteen the Mic Hosking brakist 731 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: be Andrew Dickinson for Mike Hosking. He's back on Monday 732 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: seven eighteen. I might have some good news for the 733 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 3: INCOD fans soon. But first the government's released its climate strategy, 734 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 3: It's Pillars strategy. The pillars focus on infrastructure, community preparedness, 735 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: market support for the transition, clean energy, tech and nature 736 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 3: based solutions, but critics say it doesn't give much explanation 737 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: on how these goals will be achieved, and climate activists 738 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: have gone out and called the strategy, and I apologize 739 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 3: about as useful as teats on a ball. So Climate 740 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 3: Change Minister Simon Watts joins me right now, Halla, Simon. 741 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 8: Go morning. 742 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 20: Andrew's great to be here. 743 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 3: Is it vague? And as if it is vague, have 744 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 3: you worded it vaguely strategically? 745 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 20: Well, it's a strategy, Andrew, and a strategy focuses on 746 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 20: the big dots that we want to focus on as 747 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 20: a country. The detailed plan will be coming in the 748 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 20: next two weeks and we'll be very clear with that. 749 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 20: We need to set the big dots that we're going 750 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 20: to focus on as a country, and we think that 751 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 20: we've got those dots in the right place. 752 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: So you've got some big dots. But of course your 753 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: government likes also to measure results. How will success be measured? 754 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 20: Well, the plan that we've got will be measured in 755 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 20: two ways. By the end of next year will be 756 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 20: our first budget deliverable point, so we'll have targets that 757 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 20: we have to hit by the end of next year 758 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 20: and then again at the end of twenty thirty and 759 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 20: both of those prime ministerial budget targets that have been 760 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 20: set and that's all we aim to deliver. 761 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 3: So you'd have a target for one of those things, 762 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 3: which says minimizing the costs of reducing emissions. 763 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 20: We've got targets for the amount of emissions that we're 764 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 20: going to reduce by the end of next year and 765 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 20: then by the end of twenty thirty and those are 766 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 20: within domestic legislation, and so the plan and the strategy 767 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 20: that we've outlined will ensure that we hit those targets. 768 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: So the targets are already reduced, and if you hit them, 769 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: therefore you've reduced your emissions. Therefore you've hit your target. 770 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 20: Well, that's the plan. We need initiatives to make sure 771 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 20: that we're going to reduce emissions to hit those targets, 772 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 20: and we've got a clear plan that's going to outline that. 773 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: But in addition to that, how do you measure how 774 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: do you measure things like empowering communities? 775 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 20: Well, the adaptation conversation is one that we haven't heard 776 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 20: much about under the last government. The reality of the 777 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 20: floods and wire and we know all of that stuff, 778 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 20: but we need a clear plan as a country to 779 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 20: deal with the impacts of climate change that we're facing today. 780 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 20: Alongside what we're going to do around reducing emissions, but 781 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 20: we need to be focusing on both aspects, not just 782 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 20: on the mitigation. 783 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 3: So we got the strategy, when do we get the policies. 784 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 20: It's a detailed policy. The Mission's reduction plan will be 785 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 20: consulted on within the next two weeks, so not long 786 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 20: to wait. That'll have a detail overview in terms of 787 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 20: the key drivers of emission and information around our policies, 788 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 20: around the emissions trading scheme and how that all pulls together. 789 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 20: That will get us from here to the end of 790 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 20: twenty thirty. And that's the detail that will support the 791 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 20: strategy that I published yesterday. 792 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: Is twenty thirty still the big goal. 793 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 20: Twenty thirty is the major milestone in the short term. 794 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 20: It's only seventy eight months away. So while it feels 795 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 20: like in some ways a long way way, it actually isn't. 796 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 20: In terms of the actions required. We need to hit 797 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 20: twenty thirty and then we move on from there. But 798 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 20: we need to balance off the actions we're taking with 799 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 20: supporting our economy, making sure they're a productive and you know, 800 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 20: we're pushing that through in a pragmatic and sensible way. 801 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 3: Hime attains Minister sim Watson, and I thank you for 802 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 3: your time at at A seven twenty two. Now when 803 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 3: I started this interview and going to be granted a penalty, 804 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 3: what happened? 805 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: Hurry Kay delivers again. 806 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 5: I've standing penalty. 807 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: Shouldn't really be surprised given his track record, Mike Cosking breakfast. 808 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 3: When you're over sixty five, you've learned a thing or two. 809 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 3: You've got plenty of life experience. You know what you 810 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 3: like to do, you know what you don't want to do. 811 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 3: Each Vida living Well community is unique. So are there 812 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: resident lead clubs and their activities. And they're talented residents 813 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 3: who live in their thirty five living well communities across 814 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 3: New Zealand. Don't just join in on the activities, they 815 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 3: create and then lead them at AVEDA. Each a Vida 816 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 3: community is different. The residents in each community have different 817 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 3: passions and interests. Is e biking that cycling arts, this 818 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 3: is everything. Residents can have a go at beekeeping, pickleball, croquet, 819 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 3: you name it, they do it. They've even tried native planting. 820 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 3: So it's never too late to try a new hobby 821 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 3: or club, especially with friends and neighbors by your side. 822 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 3: For more information on how you can live life your 823 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 3: way at an Avida community near you. Visit visit are 824 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 3: Veda dot co. 825 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 8: Dot NZ news Talk said b it's. 826 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: Seven twenty six Northland. Northland's always done it hard a 827 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 3: province with under investment and then the weather smacks it 828 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 3: around the heads and now they've been dealt another blow. 829 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: Did you here that Northport applied to the Northlands Regional 830 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: and fungar Rang District Councils in late twenty two They 831 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: wanted a raft of resource consents. They want to expand 832 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 3: the port to increase the port's freight storage and handling 833 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 3: capacity and turn it into a high density container terminal. 834 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 3: But wouldn't you know it, consent has not been given. 835 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 3: Independent commissioners turned down the port's application. Why because they 836 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 3: wanted to reclaim eleven point seven hectares too much, said 837 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: the commissioners. The point is owned by mars And Maritime 838 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: and Ports of Turdonger. They're going to review the decision 839 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 3: and they can appeal the decision and they're also applying 840 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 3: to be included on the fast Track Approvals bill as well. 841 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 3: But the Ports of totong A Chief Executive Leonard Sampson 842 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 3: says he's disappointed. You're disappointed, mate, So am I you 843 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 3: shoot a region while it's down. All the talk we 844 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 3: have about regaining our mojo and taking ourselves and our 845 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 3: products to the world. Nothing but is that nothing but 846 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 3: hot air eleven point seven hectare reclamation? Is that enough 847 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 3: to stop Northport being a great and vice port and 848 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: to help Northend rejuvenate? Who's the Who's the some of 849 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: the politicians from up north. Oh, I know Winston Peter's 850 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: and Shane Jones and guess who I'm talking to right 851 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: after the news Winston Peters. So I'll ask him why 852 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 3: north Port can't expand their port, and I'll also ask 853 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 3: him about what he knows about the aditary and the 854 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: autopilots and that cup of coffee. 855 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 2: Stay, how aren't you? I need you? Oldka A. 856 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: Need It is beautiful, says it A big news fold 857 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 1: Opinions Andrew Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Alveda 858 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: Retirement Communities Life Your Way News tog said. 859 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 3: B y, come on to your It is now twenty 860 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 3: three minutes to eight with a lot of people losing 861 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,439 Speaker 3: their jobs around New Zealand. Right now we're all looking 862 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 3: for a new employer, and I'm going to be able 863 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 3: to tell you in about ten minutes time who is 864 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 3: New Zealand's most attractive employer. And it's not the first 865 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 3: time they've won it either, And we'll find out what 866 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 3: makes them an attractive employer and whether you can actually 867 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 3: apply for a job with them. Say yeah, we're talking 868 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 3: to a fellow called Richard Kennedy. It's in about ten 869 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: minutes time here on News Talk tob it's twenty two 870 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 3: to eight. There was an ad that became a hit 871 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 3: song for the Warritors cruising on the Interlinder and boy 872 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 3: in the inter Islander. It's not a cruise at the moment. 873 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 3: And fortunately for Kiwi Rail, last night's leaks went on 874 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 3: board the boat. They were offered. They arrived in document form. 875 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: It's a safety bulletin which was distributed to masters on 876 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 3: the fifth just so they're in the loops that they 877 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 3: know what's happening with their boats. And it reveals a 878 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 3: multitude of reasons as to why the ferry ran aground 879 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 3: three weeks ago. One of the key concerns surrounds an 880 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 3: autopilot button. This is a button you have to press 881 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: for five seconds to activate, so very hard to do accidentally, 882 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 3: one would have thought. Now, New Zealand First First highlighted 883 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 3: a lot of these concerns and a social media post 884 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, and leader of New Zealand First and also 885 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 3: acting Prime Minister at the moment, Wister Peter's joins me, 886 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 3: Hello Winson, good morning. How did your people become aware 887 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 3: of the situation with the auditory so that you could 888 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: post about it? 889 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 21: Ah, Well, they got information from people who would know, 890 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 21: and it was not unusual to get that information because 891 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 21: this has happened countless times in the past with respect 892 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 21: to the fairies and all we've had over the years, 893 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 21: going back, you know, a long time in nine eighty 894 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 21: six is the same regime of denial and we're having 895 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 21: an inquiry. We're going to find out. And the fact 896 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 21: is it was so dwmn obvious that the question was 897 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 21: what on earth was it doing on Autoparlot in the 898 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 21: first place. 899 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 3: Indeed, if we go back to Tuesday, though, you also 900 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 3: or your post on behalf of your party also added 901 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 3: a cup of coffee, which upset all the crew and 902 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 3: they even employed lawyers. Can you stand by those claims 903 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 3: about the absenteeism for the coffee. 904 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 21: Well, can I ask you this question, how would have 905 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 21: been on order part of at the time and how 906 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 21: come we had this problem? You see, it's not complex. 907 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 21: This is a simple one two three, and we're not 908 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 21: getting any answers. And this is a tax power and operation. 909 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 21: And so the oginal first party put this out saying, 910 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 21: you know, what has going on? Did somebody go for 911 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 21: a cup of coffee or what happened? Because it should 912 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 21: never have been on auto part in the first place, 913 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 21: and now we're getting all sorts of explanations to try 914 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 21: and explain the unimaginable process which should never have in 915 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 21: the first place. 916 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely agreed. However, the maritime lawyer did say that 917 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 3: the comments at the time on the Tuesday were unhelpful and. 918 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 21: Not saying the maritime The maritime lawyer can say what 919 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 21: he likes. He's been paid to say that with the 920 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 21: greatest effect to him. Get to the facts before you 921 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 21: open your mouth. That's all I'm asking for, and that's 922 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 21: the usual first is asking for. 923 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: But there's a standard procedure that you wait for the 924 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 3: official investigation. 925 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 21: No, no, Look, Transpower was a case up north for 926 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 21: one hundred and ten a thousand homes lost power and 927 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 21: Mayor Brown at the time here in Auckland said, look, 928 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 21: they did not bolt the thing down. They're taking the 929 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 21: plates off. It was steering their office. Anything was a 930 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 21: denial first of all. Then four hours later there was 931 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 21: an admission, why do we have to go through this 932 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 21: process when the taxpayers interests are concerned and so many people, 933 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 21: so many people have been put out of the you know, 934 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 21: the the movement has been seriously affected. We've not had 935 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 21: a ferry for a long time. It's selling today, I notice, 936 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 21: But here we've had all this delay when the should 937 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 21: be action this day and give us the answer this 938 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 21: day if you know what the answer is. And they 939 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 21: didn't know what the answer is, didn't they? 940 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so this makes Kii Rail look bad. But 941 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: we also have the ongoing issue of the replacement of 942 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 3: the ferries and the cancelation of the Korean Order and 943 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: then the new plan that we're waiting for. So what 944 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 3: do you say has to happen next for KiwiRail and 945 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 3: the inter Islander. 946 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 21: Well, the Furi Rail was asked to try and find 947 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 21: two replacements, and I was the head of the Qurie 948 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 21: whale as a minister. They were asked there between twenty 949 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 21: seventeen twenty twenty and they went out there and instead 950 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 21: of getting two replacements at Thurn a million dollar max, 951 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 21: they went out with a three point two billion follow 952 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 21: listened thinks to buy, of which only one fifth or 953 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 21: twenty percent was the fairies. Do you see what I mean? 954 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 21: What's going on here? We're just being led up by 955 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 21: the nose here. And that happened on the thirtieth of 956 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 21: June twenty twenty one, six months after I've gone, So 957 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 21: mister Hippins to stop going out there and lying about 958 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 21: my responsibility. It's not true. 959 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 3: Okay. Can I just ask you a quick question. Northport 960 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 3: has been denied a permission to expand because apparently they 961 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 3: were reclaiming just too much land eleven point seven hect. 962 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 3: Is you are a representative of the North here in 963 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 3: the Parliament, the party that you're part of, in the 964 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 3: government that you're part of, in a coalition agreement once 965 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 3: economic development, particularly in the North, and you want to 966 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 3: fast track things, are you going to are you going 967 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 3: to get involved with this application by Northport for an expansion. 968 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 21: Look, I've been arguing for Northport for years, not because 969 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 21: I'm from up North. I was the MP for total 970 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 21: and the most successful port for all those years. I 971 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 21: was there for a quarter of a century in total 972 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 21: on it. But here's the point. It's the only one 973 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 21: with the future capacity to take the partnerships that are 974 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 21: coming here. And I thought the decision sadly was a 975 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 21: disaster and the holds back North a minute has a 976 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 21: chance to be a major part of this company's infrastructure. 977 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: So when the fast track comes in, will you can 978 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 3: you stick it into the fast track? 979 00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 8: Oh? 980 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 21: I can't answer those questions. You know that has to 981 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 21: be decided by the fast tracked ministers, but also the 982 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 21: panels that come after the fast tracking miss to decide 983 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 21: independently of the government what is right and what's wrong. 984 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much, Winster Peters, Zealand First Leader 985 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 3: and this is news talks. Hev and I call on 986 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 3: Winston Peters to advocate at least for the fast tracking, 987 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 3: to advocate for Northport. I'm sorry, I just think it's 988 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 3: a must do it, must do. It is sixteen minutes 989 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 3: to eight still to come. Who is New Zealand's best employer? 990 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 3: If you've lost your job? Football score anybody. 991 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still one all. 992 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 6: We're just coming up to the end of the first 993 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 6: half and you'd have to say England have been on 994 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 6: the attack for most of the half, believe it or not. 995 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 3: The attack Yeah, yeah, yeahectly. 996 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 5: Why they conceded that first goal because most of them 997 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 5: are all in the Dutch half. 998 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 3: You're talking about the guys in the white shirts, not 999 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 3: the orange shirts. Yeah, are on attack. Yeah, Oh my goodness, 1000 00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 3: it's a revolution. It's news talks. Heb costing break New 1001 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 3: Shorks he be Now, I am perfectly aware that, of 1002 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 3: course Winter Peters as a minister, can't advocate for something publicly, 1003 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 3: but he can walk into cabinet tables and say, guys, 1004 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 3: what are we doing about this Northport thing? That we 1005 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 3: seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot. And that's 1006 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 3: what I'd liked to hear. Have you noticed that in 1007 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 3: New Zealand when it rains, it pours, a pylon falls 1008 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 3: down due to incompetence, and then Transpower hides behind the 1009 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 3: law instead of repaying customers for the lost business. Where's 1010 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 3: your empathy? Kerry Raw gets its fairy replacement program canned 1011 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 3: and promptly a Faery runs a ground when it rains 1012 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 3: at pause, and then there's Darling Tana, so we know 1013 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 3: all about her. That's been that's been a wonderful week 1014 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 3: to be on air, and I know that Mike wished 1015 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 3: he was on air, but just to have this unravel 1016 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 3: What has unraveled is of course rachel Bert's report, of 1017 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 3: which the executive summary has fallen into the media's hands. 1018 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 3: It has yet to be made public, but it has 1019 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 3: been obtained. In it, Darling Tanner acknowledges she confronted a worker, 1020 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 3: and later she admits she acted in appropriately. So the 1021 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 3: media has gone and contacted this worker and he has 1022 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 3: confirmed the incident. Here is the incident. Police were called. 1023 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 3: Police were called. Police were called after an angry confrontation 1024 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 3: between Darlene Tana Tana and a migrant worker, in which Taner, 1025 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 3: and this is out of the executive summary as well, 1026 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 3: admitted her Mama Bear instincts got the better of her. 1027 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 3: The worker claimed, and he's confirmed this to stuff he claimed. 1028 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 3: Tanner approached him at his new employer's premises at his 1029 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 3: new employer's premises in March twenty twenty three, threatening defamation 1030 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 3: action against him if he persisted in an employment complaint 1031 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 3: against her husband's bike business. Now the argument is that 1032 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: Darlene danna, I'm not involved with Hubby's business. I don't 1033 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 3: do anything with Hubby's business. And here she is going 1034 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 3: for a bit of a wonder to a former employer's 1035 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 3: new employer, threatening him with legal action and defamation action, 1036 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 3: acting like a mama bear and being lippy. Look, there's 1037 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 3: all sorts of little tales about Wayhicki wharves and Devenport 1038 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 3: bike stores and all sorts of things, and yeah, Hobby's there, 1039 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 3: but also Darlene is there as well. And there is 1040 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 3: an obvious question that exists here. I mean, how many 1041 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 3: of you have not been involved, or know about, or 1042 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 3: have helped out with your spouse's business and your workplace. 1043 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 3: You've all done it. So for Darlene Taner to come 1044 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 3: out and say I know nothing about my husband's business 1045 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 3: has always stretched belief. By the way, the sooner the 1046 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 3: Greens release this entire thing, the better they want Darlene gone. 1047 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 3: This will be the final nail in the coffin. Tales 1048 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 3: like this until Darlene realizes, because of the shame, there's 1049 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 3: no way she can sit there in the house with 1050 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,479 Speaker 3: everyone glaring at her, with everybody laughing on the TV 1051 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 3: at her. There'd be no way she can keep on going, 1052 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 3: even if she joined another party, because the facts are there, 1053 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 3: and they're there, and we just would like to see 1054 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 3: them in full. Please, Chloe, Please, it's nine minutes to eight. 1055 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 3: This is news Talk's head. 1056 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: Been Andrews on them my asking breakfast with Alveda retirement 1057 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: Communities News. 1058 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 3: Tom said, Andrew says, Jackie, why aren't you talking about 1059 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 3: Cassie A Casey Costello and her dishonesty and having to 1060 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 3: apologize to Radio New Zealand. Yes, I do have that 1061 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 3: right here and I will run it through you very shortly. 1062 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 3: But first, this morning, New Zealand's most Attractive employer has 1063 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 3: been revealed. It's the second year in a row that 1064 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 3: they've won, so they'll make the company happy. And guess 1065 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 3: what it is? Can I have a drum roll in 1066 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 3: New Zealand. It's the eighth time they've won up second 1067 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 3: year in a row. Running out through the findings, as 1068 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 3: Rand stands, National director Richard Kennedy, who've done the survey? 1069 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,240 Speaker 3: Hello Richard? Now, Andrew, what makes you Air New Zealand 1070 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: so good? 1071 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 22: What makes that air New Zealand's so good. Well, firstly, 1072 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 22: congratulations to their New Zealand for being recognized as New 1073 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 22: Zealand's most Attractive place to work once again this year, 1074 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 22: recognized for their financial health, solid reputation and attractive salary 1075 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 22: and benefit. So I guess the wind reinforces their position 1076 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 22: as an iconic brand and it's remained resilient through really 1077 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 22: challenging times. 1078 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 3: Well you can say that again because most people are 1079 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 3: complaining about how high they air fears are and what's 1080 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 3: happening with a lot of the things when it comes 1081 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 3: to being a traveler. But I guess to work, these 1082 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 3: good absolutely work. 1083 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 22: That's good. Yeah, they've worked extremely hard in terms of 1084 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 22: making it a great place the work. You know, I'm 1085 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 22: providing strong work life balance, attractive salary and benefits and 1086 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 22: good training, but also equity as well. And I think 1087 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 22: equity is something which has come to the four in 1088 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 22: this year's research, the equity, diversity, belonging, inclusion. It is 1089 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 22: something which is prevalent throughout the New Zealand society and 1090 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 22: community at this moment in time. And I think around 1091 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 22: fifty percent of the people that were surveyed in this 1092 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 22: research said that they wouldn't work for an organization unless 1093 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 22: they were values aligned and had equity at the forefront 1094 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 22: of their proposition. 1095 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, one of the. 1096 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 3: Interesting things I found about your surveyors that forty percent 1097 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 3: of New Zealanders have not received inflation compensation from the 1098 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 3: current employer. And while you can understand that because that 1099 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 3: could actually drive employers to the wall, at the same time, 1100 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 3: that's the. 1101 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 22: Thing, Yeah, it is effectively is affecting people. You know, 1102 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,959 Speaker 22: the market at this moment in time, with the current 1103 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 22: economic turbulence, is impacting the fluidity of the job market. 1104 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 22: I think the employers really need to look at their 1105 00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 22: value proposition and their brand proposition and in implement you know, 1106 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 22: strong work life balance, attractive salary benefits as much as 1107 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 22: they can as possible, good training so offset you know, 1108 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 22: if they are unable to increase salaries alongside inflation, look 1109 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 22: at their training and also, you know, job security, which 1110 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 22: is something which obviously everybody's looking for at this moment 1111 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 22: in time. 1112 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 3: Because for to Kennedy from Randstands, congratulations in New Zealand 1113 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 3: and other companies like PEWC they're up a whopping forty places. 1114 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 3: Oh we've got some cool jazz, because our guest next 1115 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 3: our is a cool jazz player by the name of 1116 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 3: Herbie Hancock, eighty four years of age, piano player for 1117 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 3: the Best Mind Davis Quintet, the second one from sixty 1118 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 3: three to sixty eight, Managast Rocket the instrumental. He's coming 1119 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 3: to New Zealand in October and he's going to talk 1120 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 3: to me next hour and we'll play some cool. 1121 00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: Jazz, demanding the answers from the decision makers. Andrew Dickens 1122 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: on the My casting Breakfast with Jaguar the Art of 1123 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: Performance News Talk said, b. 1124 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 15: Remember this. 1125 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,439 Speaker 3: Remember the video with all the half robots. Somehow they've 1126 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 3: been cut in half and they were dancing. This is Rocket. 1127 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 3: This is by Herbie Hancock. Herbie Hancock, jiannist, composer, educator, 1128 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 3: icon credited with redefining the world of jazz and electronic 1129 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 3: jazz rock like this. Miles Davis, who employed him, said 1130 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 3: there's no better pianist, but it's come after him. He 1131 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 3: was a member of Miles's most revered quintet. He's given 1132 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 3: us classic tunes like Cantaloupe Island. We played that before 1133 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 3: the news and this. He is a living legend and 1134 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 3: he's coming back to New Zealand. He came here in 1135 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, but he's now going to be here again. 1136 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 3: October Orkand of Wellington and Herbie Hancock joins me. 1137 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Now, hello, Herby, Hey, how are you great? Great to 1138 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 2: see you. 1139 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 3: I'm really good and really good to see you. You 1140 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 3: look great were You are a living legend who looks 1141 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 3: very much alive. And you look very sharp my ad, 1142 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 3: though I probably should say you're looking cool. 1143 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm glad to be lookable. 1144 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 3: And how old are you these days? 1145 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 2: Eighty four? 1146 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 17: Wow? 1147 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Your birthday's April the twelfth, which is one day after mine. 1148 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 3: You're an aries brainchild of the universe, and you're still 1149 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 3: on the road. 1150 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:53,959 Speaker 2: Why, I'm crazy, That's right. I like being on the road. 1151 01:00:55,080 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 23: It's it's fine. It's hard work, so rewarding. I get 1152 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 23: a chance to meet people from New Zealand, you know, 1153 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,919 Speaker 23: and people from all over the world, get a chance 1154 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 23: to perform for them, express myself musically and include them. 1155 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 2: In the performance. 1156 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 11: You know. 1157 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 23: It's so the performance is different every night. 1158 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 3: Are you still pushing the boundaries? 1159 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 2: I hope? 1160 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 23: So I try to challenge. If I'm not, I just 1161 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 23: I try to challenge myself every night. 1162 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 3: You were a child prodigy back in the day. You 1163 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 3: played Mozart with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra at the age 1164 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 3: of eleven. But somehow you're classically trained. Somehow the jazz 1165 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 3: got in. Now, how did the jazz. 1166 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 23: Get in and snuck in somewhere? And just kind of 1167 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 23: captured me when I was in high school, even though 1168 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 23: I was I started out actually in college as a 1169 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 23: not as a music major, but electrical engineering. That that 1170 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 23: was the path I took, and which makes you know, 1171 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 23: it's technological age that we're living in now, so exciting. 1172 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 3: For me, and that came out later in new music too. 1173 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 23: I got it the synthesizers so easily because I understood 1174 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 23: the language. 1175 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 2: Of how they work. 1176 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you played with Miles from sixty three to sixty eight. 1177 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 3: It's I understand it's working with him is wonderful and 1178 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 3: difficult all at the same time, very unique, and he 1179 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 3: always challenged you, what was it like working with Miles 1180 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,959 Speaker 3: Davis in his best band? 1181 01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 23: It could not have been better. Working with Miles actually 1182 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 23: was beyond my wildest dreams I had, you know, thought 1183 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 23: of and you know, maybe dreamed of playing with any 1184 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 23: other musician but Miles. I never even dreamed of playing 1185 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 23: with Miles, because I thought it was that was impossible, 1186 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 23: so I even considered it. So when I was actually 1187 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 23: hired by Miles, it was I'd already surpassed my dreams 1188 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 23: and I couldn't believe it. 1189 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 3: I understand it for I kind of blue. For instance, 1190 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 3: all the all the guys turned up and they never 1191 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 3: seen the music, never seen any of it. And then 1192 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 3: he talked about stuff and then set them down, and 1193 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 3: then seeing go for gold? 1194 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 14: Was it like that? 1195 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 3: And your itseration too. 1196 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 23: Uh, It was like as though somebody had bought a 1197 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 23: basket of of gold coins, you know, in front of 1198 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 23: me were working with Miles. But you know, I'll tell 1199 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 23: you one thing that really was a huge inspiration to me. 1200 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 23: What happened was I remember playing at the club in 1201 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 23: New York called it the Village Vanguard, and I noticed 1202 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 23: that Miles at one point in one of the songs, 1203 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 23: he played something that I could tell that he heard 1204 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 23: what I had done for him to play the notes 1205 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 23: that he chose. And it dawned on me that Miles 1206 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 23: was listening to me. If I hadn't come to that realization, 1207 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 23: I would have gotten I would have gotten fired. 1208 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I found out Miles hired me because he wanted 1209 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 2: hear me. 1210 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking with Herbie Hancock, who's coming to New Zealander 1211 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 3: and October. We're back after the break This is news Talks. 1212 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 3: Here beat the Mike Hosking breakfast, It's news Talks. He 1213 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 3: be My very special guest is Herbie Hancock. Boy, tell 1214 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 3: me a little bit about Rocket, because there's a lot 1215 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 3: of New Zealanders who saw that on our TV shows. 1216 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 3: We saw the video of the TV shows with the 1217 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 3: crazy old robots cutting half doing the crazy old dance 1218 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 3: and we all crazy old danced around to it and 1219 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 3: there was like nothing we'd ever heard before. So tell 1220 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 3: me about Rocket. Where did that come from? 1221 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, actually. 1222 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 23: I had a guy working for me started an assistant. 1223 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 23: But he's a very bright guy, there's why. And he 1224 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 23: loved all kinds of music. He was younger than me, 1225 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 23: and he always wanted to explore what's happening with the 1226 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 23: underground scene. And he found these two guys in New York. 1227 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 2: That were part of that, the. 1228 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 23: New underground scene that was happening, Bill Laswell and Michael Beinholm, 1229 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 23: and they had a group and they were producing other 1230 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 23: people's music and producing their own, and he thought they 1231 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 23: would be great to do one of my records, one 1232 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 23: of my albums. And I had never heard of them. 1233 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 23: I didn't know what they had done, and so what 1234 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 23: I said was, okay, if they don't mind doing it 1235 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 23: on spec in other words, whatever they presented me, if 1236 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 23: I don't have to use it. 1237 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 2: With that that I said, They said great. Anyway, they 1238 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 2: prepared some. 1239 01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 23: Stuff, recorded some stuff on tape, and and flew from 1240 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 23: New York to LA you know, when I have my studio, 1241 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 23: and they started playing with the tape of one of 1242 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 23: the things. 1243 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 8: And I. 1244 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 23: I heard scratching on it. It wasn't the first time 1245 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 23: I heard it. I actually only heard scratching for the 1246 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 23: first time a few weeks before that, because some young 1247 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 23: friend of mine turned me on to that that sound 1248 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 23: for another record and by a guy named Malcolm McLaren. 1249 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 23: The record called Buffalo Guys. That was the first record 1250 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 23: I heard with scratching on right. And as soon as 1251 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 23: I heard that sound, that sound actually reminded me of 1252 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 23: some things we might have used with the one DC band, 1253 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 23: the Space Band, I said, Okay, let's do this anyway, 1254 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 23: we continue. I wrote a melody for it. We put 1255 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 23: the whole thing together, and when it was released much 1256 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 23: took all of our surprise was it was a gigantic hit. 1257 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Gigantic we never ever. 1258 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 2: Expected anything like that. 1259 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 23: And then people were all break dancing and they all 1260 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 23: wanted to break dance to Rocket. 1261 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 2: That was the thief I heard. 1262 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 3: You actually took the tape downtown and you stuck at 1263 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 3: it in a boom box and you played it and 1264 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 3: some kids started going off to it, and you suddenly 1265 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 3: thought to yourself, there are hit. 1266 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I didn't know it was going to 1267 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 2: be hit. I didn't know, but other people knew. 1268 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, the kids who wanted to dance it. Hey, Herbie, 1269 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,840 Speaker 3: it's fantastic that you're coming down, that you're bringing a 1270 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 3: bit of history down to New Zealand so that we 1271 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 3: can all witness it in your first hand. You look great, 1272 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 3: you sound great, You've always had a good Thank you 1273 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 3: so much for your time. 1274 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 2: Today, Thank you so much, too great talking to you. 1275 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 14: Oh, thank you. 1276 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 3: The tour is going to start at Aucan's coming to 1277 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 3: kind of with Theatre October the eighth. Then Michael Fowlers 1278 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 3: ends it in Willington October the ninth. Then it's off 1279 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 3: to Australia. This is your chance to see a legend, 1280 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 3: probably the last time a little bit of cant loop Islands. 1281 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 3: You may remember this plus three the band, an Ingish 1282 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 3: rap band actually did this simple this and it became 1283 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 3: a huge hit because Hervey's music is forever. It's a 1284 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 3: twenty and this this news talk, saidb. 1285 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Diggins on the My Costing Breakfast with Jaguar News Talks. 1286 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 3: B So when SpaceX introduced starlink, it was groundbreaking technology, 1287 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 3: but there were a few local use cases to back 1288 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 3: up the effectiveness of the solution. It was like, look 1289 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 3: what he's done. That's pre clever, it's up there. Fletcher 1290 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 3: Tech Fletcher Buildings Technology division has teamed up with two 1291 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 3: Degrees Business to tackle significant connectivity challenges face some remote 1292 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 3: locations across New Zealand and Australia where traditional fiber and 1293 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,560 Speaker 3: four G is unavailable. Fletcher Tech has been installing starlink 1294 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 3: for business solutions. So Starlink through two Degrees is now 1295 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 3: recognized by Fletcher Tech as a rapid deployable solution for 1296 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 3: network redundancy and offers a flexible, affordable solution supported by 1297 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 3: two degrees managed services team based right here in New 1298 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 3: Zealand and it covers every into the country and two 1299 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 3: degrees are proving that they are serious about starlink through 1300 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 3: their own testing service and oversight. You need to find 1301 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,680 Speaker 3: more about this because it's the future. Find out more 1302 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 3: about starlink for business at two degrees dot or z 1303 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 3: forward slash business. 1304 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 2: News Talk said b. 1305 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 3: It is now eight twenty four right the Associate Health 1306 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:09,680 Speaker 3: Minister Casey Costello has been severely reprimanded by the Chief Armwoodsman, 1307 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 3: that's Judge Peter Busher, and he's going to force her 1308 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 3: to apologize to Radio New Zealand for trying to keep 1309 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:24,839 Speaker 3: information about tobacco and vaping policy secret. You may remember 1310 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,679 Speaker 3: that in late December, Radio New Zealand made an Official 1311 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 3: Information Act request asking for all documents sent, held or 1312 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 3: received by Casey Costello relating to tobacco control and vaping policy. 1313 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 3: Costello then refused to release any of these documents at all. 1314 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 3: She cited a cause on the OIA protecting confidential advice 1315 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 3: tended by ministers and officials. And we all talked about this. 1316 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 3: We talked about where's the official advice that you're getting, 1317 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 3: and we made an OIA when we tried to find 1318 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 3: out about it, but it was denied to us. Well, 1319 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 3: the chief on Boodsman has said that Casey Costello's actions 1320 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,439 Speaker 3: and withholding that information were unreasonable and contrary to the law. 1321 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,599 Speaker 3: And so now she has to apologize to the media 1322 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 3: for trying to do their job to find out stuff 1323 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,600 Speaker 3: for you, and Casey Costello has been told off for 1324 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 3: trying to keep us from finding out stuff about what 1325 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 3: she was doing for you. Now, this is an important story. 1326 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 3: Well you know it's an important story anyway, but it 1327 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 3: goes back through the ages. The last government was bad 1328 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,639 Speaker 3: this as well. The last government was atrocious at answering 1329 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 3: OIA complaints. Also Laguima ones as well, if you're into that, 1330 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,760 Speaker 3: but that's another issue. But yeah, OIA complaints, you file 1331 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 3: them and they just wouldn't come back because people didn't 1332 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,680 Speaker 3: want to tell the truth. They didn't want to tell 1333 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 3: the truth to the media. 1334 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 2: Right. 1335 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,599 Speaker 3: Well, now we've got a new government. And you may 1336 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 3: remember when this government came and everyone said, oh hurrah, 1337 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 3: the grown ups are in charge. Let's get rid of 1338 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 3: that previous lot who claimed they were open, honest and transparent. 1339 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 3: It's had some real people in there and on. Don't 1340 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 3: you know it's the same tricks being played because you 1341 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 3: can change you can change the leopard, but you can't 1342 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 3: change the spots, can you now? And by the way, 1343 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 3: it's an apology from the politicians for not telling the 1344 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 3: truth to the media, where most people say it's the 1345 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 3: other way around. And that's satisfying because that's the truth. 1346 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 3: Oh look some more jazz. Simply come mister Rod a little. 1347 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he is not relaxed at the moment 1348 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 3: because he'll be watching England versus the Netherlands, the euro 1349 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 3: semi final score? 1350 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 5: Are you still one? 1351 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 2: All? 1352 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 6: A little bit of desperation creeping in for both sides now, 1353 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 6: a little bit of argie bargie. 1354 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 3: Rod's not going to like us calling a I'm busy. 1355 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 5: Well, hopefully he'll We'll see what happens. 1356 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 3: He's next, your. 1357 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: Trusted source for news and for you. Andrew Dickens on 1358 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 1: the Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real 1359 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three used tog. 1360 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 3: Said b It's twenty three to nine. I'm Andrew and 1361 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 3: Mike is back on Monday. He's on holiday. Earlier this morning, 1362 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 3: I was talking about Northport and how they will refused 1363 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 3: and permission to expand. They wanted to expand their port 1364 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 3: become a medium density container terminal, make jobs, make business. 1365 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 3: They were turned down by Independent Commissioners because they wanted 1366 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 3: to do an eleven point seven hectare reclamation of land 1367 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 3: that was considered to have too much impact. I like 1368 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 3: to thank Mike for sending me an email because he 1369 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 3: pointed out more stuff that's in that decision which I 1370 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,719 Speaker 3: didn't know about, and it's to do with it eleven 1371 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 3: point seven hectares because apparently the Tongue to Feneware were 1372 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 3: also strongly opposed to the expansion Patujarakeke to Parafo and 1373 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 3: nine e. Why we're all against it? They reckon there 1374 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 3: will be advert or the commissioners we can there be 1375 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,560 Speaker 3: adverse effects on the cultural values of the tongue in 1376 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 3: to Fenua because of you know, the land and the 1377 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 3: sea and the expansion and all that sort of stuff. 1378 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 3: There's all sorts of loss of recreational venues and traditional 1379 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 3: areas in the coastal marine area. They thought there was 1380 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 3: significant and irreversible. Yes, there was new marine areas to 1381 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 3: be created with new Land to be created. But I 1382 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,680 Speaker 3: just asked Tungua to Finowa and Patujalakeke and Taparafo and 1383 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 3: NIGHTI why do you want jobs? 1384 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 8: Or that. 1385 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 3: Simple question? Twenty one to nine. 1386 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind 1387 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 1388 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,240 Speaker 3: From the UK. He's come to the phone rod little Hello, 1389 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 3: good on. 1390 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 24: In How you doing good? 1391 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 3: How are you doing? 1392 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 24: Yeah, that's about at all. Everyone's in thrall at the moment, 1393 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 24: because of course we have a Neue government. The government 1394 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 24: has been in power for five days, six days, and 1395 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 24: they still have an awful lot of good will with them. 1396 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 24: So far, not much has happened. We've had Keir Starmer, 1397 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 24: the labor leader, and the new prime minister, a point 1398 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 24: of women's minister who doesn't actually know what the woman is. 1399 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 8: This is. 1400 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 24: Adelie's dogs, who could not describe a woman properly. She 1401 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 24: sinks a woman possibly could have a penis for example. 1402 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 3: Yes, we had those tricks here as well, and that 1403 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 3: has actually helped people get some economic liverage out of 1404 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 3: the whole thing. 1405 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:28,719 Speaker 24: What else you got, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, absolutely. It's 1406 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 24: an interesting thought though, isn't it. But he's also been 1407 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,799 Speaker 24: furiously driving around the country he's visiting. He's been visiting Wales, 1408 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 24: Northern Ireland, Scotland as well as England, finding out from 1409 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 24: the first ministers of those countries what they want from him. 1410 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 24: There's a plan already out to build one point five 1411 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,839 Speaker 24: million houses on our England's green and pleasant and despite 1412 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 24: the fact actually that we have a housing surface at 1413 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 24: the moment that a housing shortage is a housing crisis, 1414 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 24: but that's affordability is not really about provision. But generally 1415 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 24: there's still an awful lot of happiness people. The friend 1416 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 24: you keep hearing is a blast. Grown ups are in 1417 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 24: the room. So we've moved from a chaotic, catastrophic Conservative 1418 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 24: government to a government which is at least managerial. Yes, 1419 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 24: and I think that that is that is what what 1420 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 24: has got the support of the people. 1421 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 3: And we spoke about that before. You know, now the 1422 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 3: grown ups are but we also spoke about the fact 1423 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 3: that it's really just a Conservative Party collapse that actually 1424 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 3: gave them the seats, gave them the treasury benches. But 1425 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm also seeing Richie soon because this is a big 1426 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 3: story for me, is you know, what the hell and 1427 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 3: where do the Conservatives go from here? And I see 1428 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 3: that Richie Soon has been speaking in Parliament briefly, and 1429 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 3: I see that people are commenting that he's he's speaking gently, 1430 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 3: with empathy, with warmth and with wisdom, and where the 1431 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 3: hell was that before? 1432 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 24: Well indeed, but that was also true, of course, of 1433 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 24: the handover from Soon after Star, and that it was 1434 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,880 Speaker 24: done with a degree of grace. I think we've got 1435 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 24: to accept that he has a fair amount of grace 1436 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:14,759 Speaker 24: and a fair amount of sensibility that perhaps was missing 1437 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 24: from some of his predecessors. So he has got that. 1438 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 24: Where does a Tory party go from here? 1439 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 1: We have. 1440 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:28,839 Speaker 24: MPs having a go at some of the runners and riders. 1441 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 24: So at the moment, Kenny Badenock is clearly out in front. 1442 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 24: She's a right wing, she's black, she represents a seat 1443 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,640 Speaker 24: in the southeast of England. She would be popular for 1444 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,800 Speaker 24: many many people. Swellop Bratherman has been attacked by some 1445 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 24: people in the party for being alienating to voters, though 1446 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 24: that seems to be a bit rough and she hasn't 1447 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 24: really had a chance to put herself before the voters. 1448 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,639 Speaker 24: But it seems to me that whatever happens, you will 1449 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 24: end up with a concert revative party leader who is 1450 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:02,799 Speaker 24: from the right of the party. 1451 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,480 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the new government is trying to achieve a rapprosh 1452 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 3: Mont with Europe. 1453 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 24: Yes, And the great worry for many people in this 1454 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,439 Speaker 24: country is how is how far that rappross monk may go. 1455 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,240 Speaker 24: Because of course the Clear Star was an avid remainer 1456 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 24: and the Labor Party itself was very very pro remain 1457 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 24: and there is a worry that that whatever we do, yes, 1458 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 24: there will be a raprosh Wan with Europe, and that's 1459 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 24: probably needed. But we don't want to get back into 1460 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 24: bed with the European Union. 1461 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 3: Why not? 1462 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 24: Of course we don't like it. We voted to get 1463 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 24: away from it. 1464 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 3: There we go, q D done. It is now seventeen 1465 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 3: to nine and Ron, thank you so much for your 1466 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 3: time today. And if you go back to the game, 1467 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,759 Speaker 3: because it's quite quite tense. This is England versus the Netherlands. 1468 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 3: It's one nil and we've got what you mean one? 1469 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 3: Did I say one? 1470 01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 11: All? 1471 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 3: And what we've got how many minutes to play regular time? 1472 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,440 Speaker 6: I've probably about another thirteen forty minutes something like that, including. 1473 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 3: The supposed it will added extra time. And then we 1474 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 3: go into to more extra time and then we have 1475 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 3: the penalty shoot out. I will tell you about that 1476 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 3: if we need to, if I get time later on. 1477 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 3: But Harry Kane's off. They've taken off the striker, which 1478 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 3: he is the number one taker of penalties and if 1479 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 3: they end out in a penalty strike scenario, you would 1480 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 3: think you'd want to Harry Kine there, but he ain't 1481 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 3: going to be there now, So on it goos. It 1482 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 3: is sixteen to nine. This is NEWSTALKSB. 1483 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Hosting breakfast. 1484 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 3: What is it sixteen days to the Olympics. I cannot wait. 1485 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 3: This is Newstalk's B. It is now thirteen to nine. 1486 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,720 Speaker 3: I'm Andrew Dickens. So orkand FC is coming to the 1487 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,240 Speaker 3: A League. Yesterday the worst secret in the world was confirmed. 1488 01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,240 Speaker 3: They're going to play the games at Mount Smart Stadium. 1489 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,679 Speaker 3: Sponsor there is Go Media, the contractors for five years, 1490 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,639 Speaker 3: the owner of course, the organd Council. The first time 1491 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 3: now play at home is in October. Mount Smart is 1492 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:00,800 Speaker 3: a football ground. I know we think of it as 1493 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 3: a league ground. It's a football ground. The Knights used 1494 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 3: to play there. I remember Winton Rufer playing his last 1495 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 3: games of professional football there back in the day. Ground 1496 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 3: was also pivotal in our run to the World Cup 1497 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 3: back in nineteen eighty two. I remember being a kid 1498 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 3: going along to those sorts of things that was in 1499 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 3: the day. He's had one grand stand and the rest 1500 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 3: of the ground was the grass slopes of an extinct volcano. 1501 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 3: I remember thirty thousand people gathering and slipping their way 1502 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,680 Speaker 3: down the grass slopes of a volcano watching us go 1503 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:28,559 Speaker 3: all the way to Spain. 1504 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 5: It was great. 1505 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 3: So welcome orkand DEFC. Now their billionaire owner of the team, 1506 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 3: Bill Foley, who is a sports professional, has always talked 1507 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 3: about building his own boutique stadium in downtown Auckland, and 1508 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 3: I say more power to him. I know he's being 1509 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 3: connected with some of the current proposals, but just do it. 1510 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 3: Uglands stadium woes have always been exacerbated by their ownership 1511 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 3: by the council. Council owned stadiums are okay maybe for 1512 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 3: big regional stadiums or national stadiums, or for an event 1513 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 3: like a Commonwealth Games or an Olympic Games. Often they 1514 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,040 Speaker 3: then get transferred to private hands. Overseas, most stadiums are 1515 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,559 Speaker 3: owned and operated by private operators, and most of those 1516 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,080 Speaker 3: operators are the team owners of the team that plays 1517 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 3: there that concentrates their commercial minds. Private stadiums have not 1518 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 3: happened in New Zealand. One exception was turning his Bay 1519 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,840 Speaker 3: Park Speedway, which is a twenty thousand seater built in 1520 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 3: two thousand and one by Bob Clarkson, who became an 1521 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,919 Speaker 3: mp He was a speedway nut. He built the stadium 1522 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,599 Speaker 3: for fifteen million dollars a twenty thousand seater. It's got 1523 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 3: the speedway track in the rugby field in the middle 1524 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 3: of it as well. He then sold it to the 1525 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 3: council back in two thousand and seven. But build a 1526 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 3: Bob built a stadium. It's been used for MPC and 1527 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 3: Super games of rugby that may never have come to 1528 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,240 Speaker 3: the Bay if Bob hadn't built his arena. Brian Adams 1529 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 3: played a concert there every summer. It hosts Bay Dreams. 1530 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 3: It is an asset to the place. Bob built it. 1531 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,840 Speaker 3: If Bob could build it, so can the other Bob, 1532 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 3: Bob Foley, And I hope he does because in this 1533 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 3: whole thing, one of my great regrets is that Rugby 1534 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 3: League sold Carlile Park. Back in the day. We could 1535 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 3: have had a downtown stadium and nobody valued it. Councilors 1536 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,280 Speaker 3: are always being forced to build the stadiums. Meanwhile, we 1537 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 3: have the augand Council kicking out the Speedway and Pontsibly 1538 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 3: Rugby Club from Western Springs Stadium and asking if anyone 1539 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 3: wants to take over management of the place. 1540 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:19,560 Speaker 2: And B. G. 1541 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 3: Williams is complaining about it, and the Speedway's complaining about it. 1542 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Of course they are. But you know the challenge there 1543 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 3: is to take over the place. I know you don't 1544 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 3: have the money. Find someone who does. Bob built a stadium. 1545 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,559 Speaker 3: Maybe private operators can too. Give Bob a call. He's 1546 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 3: still alive. He's living in Toylaninger, he's eighty five and 1547 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 3: he still has his left testicle. And if you know, 1548 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,000 Speaker 3: you know, if you can remember the days of build 1549 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 3: a Bob in Parliament? Is there a score? 1550 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 13: No? 1551 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,759 Speaker 3: You will scream in my ear when there's a score. Yes, okay, 1552 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,639 Speaker 3: there's no score. It's one all it's ten to nine. 1553 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the my costing breakers with Bailey's rooms. 1554 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,920 Speaker 3: There are twenty twenty four semi final England Netherlands ninetieth minute. 1555 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 3: You won't believe what happened. 1556 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh what kids? 1557 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 19: God, ninety minutes England, I've been delarious drama. 1558 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. May we are currently we had two 1559 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 3: minutes of out of time added on and we're currently 1560 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 3: we were one minute of at a time on when 1561 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 3: we started playing that clip. We're almost there. It looks 1562 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,719 Speaker 3: like England is going all the way to the final. 1563 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 3: That's coming home, baby, It's coming home. 1564 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:44,320 Speaker 22: And can you. 1565 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 3: Imagine just how much beer suddenly ended out in the 1566 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,479 Speaker 3: air in that moment that we just played to you 1567 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,560 Speaker 3: just now they would be chucking their beer in the 1568 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:57,879 Speaker 3: air everywhere. Congratulations England so far six to nine trending. 1569 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 1: Now chemist where keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round. 1570 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't picking that, you know, I was not picking that. 1571 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,639 Speaker 3: I have not been a fan of England this tournament. 1572 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 23: But there we go. 1573 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 3: So the Democrats are worried about Biden because you know, 1574 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 3: he mumbles and can't kiss his words out and he 1575 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 3: freezes and all that sort of thing. 1576 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:14,960 Speaker 2: Don't worry. 1577 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,400 Speaker 3: Republicans are also worried about Donald Trump because he sometimes 1578 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,920 Speaker 3: has trouble getting stuff out. He's been criticized for being 1579 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 3: all over the place in his latest rally, so he's 1580 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 3: an example. 1581 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,920 Speaker 11: Did anyone ever see the lovely movie Silence of the Lambs. 1582 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:28,439 Speaker 17: Did you see it? 1583 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 3: Did you ever hear of Hannibal Elector, who's a lovely man. 1584 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,200 Speaker 2: He would love to have you for dinner. 1585 01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:35,040 Speaker 3: He will take you. 1586 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,600 Speaker 11: You had many people for dinner, Well, we have for 1587 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,280 Speaker 11: a lot of people coming in. They always say, oh, 1588 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,040 Speaker 11: that's terrible that Trump would say he is. 1589 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 17: Rambling about Hannibal Elector. 1590 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:45,400 Speaker 5: No, I'm not rambling. 1591 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 23: That's who. 1592 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,680 Speaker 3: We are allowing people from insane. 1593 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,840 Speaker 11: Asylums and mental institutions into our country by the tens 1594 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 11: of thousands, and they're closing them down in other countries 1595 01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,599 Speaker 11: because you know, the cost savings and all of the savings. 1596 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it didn't feel like dribble. There was a disconnect, 1597 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 3: but I thought it was pretty good. 1598 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 8: Really, well, what was this point? 1599 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 3: I am not sure about Hannibal Lecter. But the other 1600 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,600 Speaker 3: point is not so crazy people are coming in. 1601 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,759 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but that's been debunked. 1602 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 6: How many times that I know that, the thousands of 1603 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,080 Speaker 6: people being let out of midle ASILs. 1604 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:21,640 Speaker 3: Now well, look, look, we've got to the point now 1605 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,680 Speaker 3: where the debunking and the veracity of stuff is not 1606 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 3: at point it's whether he can just open his mouth 1607 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 3: and function, and even more so whether he can walk, 1608 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,600 Speaker 3: and whether he can make a fist, and whether he 1609 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 3: can go upstairs and downstairs and remember exactly who's on 1610 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 3: a stage with him at any given time. That's the 1611 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,680 Speaker 3: point where at Glenn, at this current juncture of democracy. 1612 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 5: So Hannibal Lecter, fine by me, Okay, I can. 1613 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,200 Speaker 3: Tell you one other thing. I'm feeling really hungry right now. 1614 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 3: To be honest, it's time for me to go my 1615 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 3: thanks to Glenn and Asa. I'm the producer, and I'll 1616 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,080 Speaker 3: set up producer who works at night who I never see. 1617 01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 3: In fact, I don't even know the name. Could someone 1618 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 3: give me the name please? 1619 01:26:59,520 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 5: Libby? 1620 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:01,240 Speaker 2: Thank you Libby. 1621 01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,160 Speaker 3: I know you do some hard hours and you write 1622 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 3: some great stuff, so thank you very much. 1623 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 25: As the loneliest job in the world for the loneliest 1624 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,160 Speaker 25: producer for the Breakfast Show, I have been a set 1625 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,599 Speaker 25: up producer of the Breakfast Show, tearing my hair out 1626 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 25: at eleven o'clock at night, wishing that someone would just 1627 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 25: answer their phone and agree to talk to my host 1628 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 25: the next morning. 1629 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 3: It is a soul. That's a thankless job. So that's 1630 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 3: why I'm thanking Libby. 1631 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,679 Speaker 5: Sam producer Sam, he used to be a setup producer. 1632 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,120 Speaker 3: The greatest people have done the hardest yards Glenn. 1633 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,920 Speaker 6: And Sam had to do it during COVID as well. 1634 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 6: So coming into this building was already a lonely situation anyway, 1635 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,040 Speaker 6: and then really not having anybody to talk to. 1636 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 3: Ah yeah, yeah, it was the tumbleweeds that got me, 1637 01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,679 Speaker 3: just walking down the corridor and something. 1638 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 15: Just you know. 1639 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 5: And then right, so what are we leading with today? 1640 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 3: Okay, by the way, I've got enough time to read 1641 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 3: one text that came through after talking about private stadium 1642 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 3: and somebody said, and by the way, he said, don't 1643 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 3: forget Highland's Motorsport in Cromwell and Hampton Downs and of 1644 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 3: course top Or Motorsport, the owned great sporting events. Why 1645 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 3: does the counsel one of the government always have to 1646 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 3: do it. There's business there, there's money there. Come on, 1647 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 3: Bob Foley, build us a boot tick stadium. Don't ask 1648 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 3: me where. I don't care, it's your problem. 1649 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:14,840 Speaker 5: Finally called full time on this game. 1650 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,719 Speaker 3: Congratulations England's I'll see you tomorrow. My name is Andrew Dickins. 1651 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 3: This is the assortsp When you're an avenue, then am 1652 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 3: I up in your head, making. 1653 01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,640 Speaker 23: You crazy, Tell me, pray me. Are you banging down me? 1654 01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:28,679 Speaker 21: Here? 1655 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,040 Speaker 19: Are you banging down me? 1656 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:40,800 Speaker 1: Are you thanking about me? For more from the mic 1657 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast listen live to news talks it'd be from 1658 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,480 Speaker 1: six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.