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Speaker 1: A third damning report of Hawk's Bay Regional Council's handling

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Speaker 1: of Cyclone Gabriella has just landed today. It's found the

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Speaker 1: council was massively underprepared for potential flooding, underestimated risk, didn't

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Speaker 1: consider what had happened in the past with large floods

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Speaker 1: in order to prepare for future floods. The report also

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Speaker 1: asks why new housing was built in flood prone areas

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Speaker 1: that the cyclos or hundreds of homes flooded and eight

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Speaker 1: people killed by the way in the region last February.

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Speaker 1: Craig Little is the mayor of wird Or and with

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Speaker 1: us now, hey Craig.

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Speaker 2: How you going Very well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Craig. It just feels like a series of

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Speaker 1: stuff ups, right, not just one, but like all along

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Speaker 1: the way they just kept on stuffing up. When we

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Speaker 1: got to the point where eight people.

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Speaker 2: Died, yeah, it's a bit of a worry. You just

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Speaker 2: sort of start thinking, well, gosh, we need to look

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Speaker 2: at what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: So the thing, one of the things that surprised me

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Speaker 1: the most is that they have a flood risk place.

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Speaker 1: So it was a floodplain like the head of Tongue

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Speaker 1: Planes and they haven't got any evacuation plans. Did that

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Speaker 1: surprise you?

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't know much about the Hawks Bay group

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Speaker 2: of my job's wire Or, but look, I'm not surprised

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Speaker 2: all because there's a lot of things that we didn't

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Speaker 2: have any river protection work done before those cycling Gabriel

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Speaker 2: saw it done now. So yeah, we need to actually

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Speaker 2: go back to what our business as usual work is,

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Speaker 2: I think, rather than doing stuff that maybe isn't like

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Speaker 2: what well, we need to go back to the fundamentals

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Speaker 2: of and one of the things is around flood protection,

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Speaker 2: looking after and ensuring people don't end up like Wireor

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Speaker 2: did the other day.

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Speaker 1: But are you saying that the council's being distracted by

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Speaker 1: other stuff other than its basic jobs.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they probably haven't really concentrated on what

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Speaker 2: they should be doing. Look, it's my view only. I

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Speaker 2: just think, you know, simple things like wild Mouth was

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Speaker 2: just open it on time and I talk the locals.

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Speaker 2: Never happened.

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Speaker 1: So do these tasks if they're not going to do

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Speaker 1: them properly. And they clearly are not going to Craig

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Speaker 1: because we had a flood last year in February and

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Speaker 1: then we had a flood just a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: again and the same kind of repeat of stuff is

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Speaker 1: happening again. They're not going to do the job properly.

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Speaker 1: Do we take it off them and give it to

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Speaker 1: somebody else?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's the government decision to do. But look,

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Speaker 2: we're not happy with it because we feel like we're

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Speaker 2: not getting listened. We're small part of Hawk's Bay, but

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Speaker 2: I think we're as equal as everybody else, and we

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Speaker 2: don't feel we are. And probably parts of Hawk's Bay,

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Speaker 2: there's no secret of it. They're not happy as well.

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Speaker 2: So if I was running that counsel, and I'm not,

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Speaker 2: I'd be thinking how can we make this better? And

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Speaker 2: this is a real damning report. It's a hard hitting report,

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Speaker 2: but guess what. All those recommendations are business as usual

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Speaker 2: stuff and they should be thinking, well, actually, we may

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Speaker 2: not have got it right here.

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Speaker 1: Hey, so you've gotten I mean, there's a false review

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Speaker 1: coming out, but it's a different review. It's a review

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Speaker 1: into what happened with the flooding that happened last month

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Speaker 1: with you guys, where are you at with that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Mike Bush is doing that, and I have

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Speaker 2: pretty full conscidence of me did a wonderful report on

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Speaker 2: the civil defense stuff and whether they whether all those

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Speaker 2: recommendations were adopted on sure that and time will tells

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Speaker 2: for his report, because I think, you know, if they

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Speaker 2: weren't adopted, well they should have been adopted and it

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Speaker 2: would have made Wire a lot bit of place under

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Speaker 2: a state of emergency. But yeah, it's just another one.

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Speaker 2: You know why I hate wasting money, you know, doing

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Speaker 2: all these reviews and reports and things like that. But

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Speaker 2: they've got to be done because obviously we're doing those

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Speaker 2: because we're not confident what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, telling them how to do their jobs. Craig, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, appreciate it. Craig, A little wider was

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