1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from news Talk zed B. 3 00:00:12,627 --> 00:00:17,507 Speaker 2: Because we get you inside the Australian sal GP camp. 4 00:00:17,987 --> 00:00:21,907 Speaker 2: A late call up for flight controller Jason Waterhouse bailing 5 00:00:21,947 --> 00:00:25,027 Speaker 2: your biting your driver Tom Slings. But yeah, good to 6 00:00:25,027 --> 00:00:26,107 Speaker 2: see you mate. How are you? Yeah? 7 00:00:26,147 --> 00:00:27,707 Speaker 3: Really good? Thanks, thanks having men. 8 00:00:27,547 --> 00:00:29,187 Speaker 2: It's great to have you here. Jason. How are you 9 00:00:29,187 --> 00:00:30,707 Speaker 2: feeling you hit a sale gp Auckland. 10 00:00:30,787 --> 00:00:31,187 Speaker 3: Yeah good. 11 00:00:31,227 --> 00:00:33,707 Speaker 4: We've had really good two days of practice racing so far. 12 00:00:34,227 --> 00:00:36,787 Speaker 4: The conditions be in Glamour so a little bit chilly, 13 00:00:36,827 --> 00:00:38,467 Speaker 4: then across the ditch, but enjoying it. 14 00:00:39,147 --> 00:00:40,827 Speaker 2: So you got your digging about the New Zealand with 15 00:00:40,867 --> 00:00:43,267 Speaker 2: a nice and earlier I like it And what's some 16 00:00:43,707 --> 00:00:45,667 Speaker 2: what's Tom like? I couldn't ask him that. 17 00:00:46,107 --> 00:00:46,667 Speaker 3: What's he like? 18 00:00:47,547 --> 00:00:49,907 Speaker 4: He's amazing not only he's a CEO, but also as 19 00:00:49,907 --> 00:00:53,947 Speaker 4: a skipper and a mate exceptional sailor, which is why 20 00:00:53,987 --> 00:00:56,907 Speaker 4: we love to race alongside him and pushes not on 21 00:00:57,067 --> 00:00:59,067 Speaker 4: himself but us to limit and I think it's what's 22 00:00:59,067 --> 00:01:01,027 Speaker 4: made us so successful this last couple of years. 23 00:01:01,187 --> 00:01:05,067 Speaker 2: You were involved in season one and two of Sole GP, 24 00:01:05,187 --> 00:01:07,147 Speaker 2: what three and four as well? One and two for 25 00:01:07,187 --> 00:01:08,947 Speaker 2: all of them, you've been here the whole time, Yeah, 26 00:01:08,987 --> 00:01:11,227 Speaker 2: they go, Yeah, I was just I was just quickly 27 00:01:11,267 --> 00:01:13,147 Speaker 2: checking some facts. So you've been here right from the start. 28 00:01:13,307 --> 00:01:14,667 Speaker 2: What are the big changes you've seen? 29 00:01:15,507 --> 00:01:17,107 Speaker 4: Oh, man, I mean we've had a few changes to 30 00:01:17,147 --> 00:01:19,947 Speaker 4: the team in itself, but mainly just seeing the league 31 00:01:19,947 --> 00:01:22,707 Speaker 4: grow as it has it has been incredible. But this 32 00:01:22,787 --> 00:01:24,347 Speaker 4: has been a big change this week with the new 33 00:01:24,387 --> 00:01:28,307 Speaker 4: foils coming online. The tefoils big hot topic here in Auckland. 34 00:01:29,787 --> 00:01:31,347 Speaker 4: But yeah, no, it's just really excited. It's something a 35 00:01:31,347 --> 00:01:33,587 Speaker 4: bit different I think for the athletes and for the 36 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:35,027 Speaker 4: spectators to enjoy well. 37 00:01:35,267 --> 00:01:37,747 Speaker 2: As a flight controller, that obviously is something that would 38 00:01:37,827 --> 00:01:40,507 Speaker 2: change your role. How does it change your role having 39 00:01:40,587 --> 00:01:42,907 Speaker 2: these these new te foils on. What have you noticed? 40 00:01:43,027 --> 00:01:44,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, the role's now become a bit more dynamic. I 41 00:01:45,027 --> 00:01:47,347 Speaker 4: think it allows us to be a bit more creative. 42 00:01:47,667 --> 00:01:49,587 Speaker 4: But at the same time, you know they were meant 43 00:01:49,627 --> 00:01:52,347 Speaker 4: to be Maybe they're definitely gonna be faster, but some 44 00:01:52,427 --> 00:01:54,467 Speaker 4: were saying a bit easier to fly, but yes, there 45 00:01:54,507 --> 00:01:56,987 Speaker 4: was definitely not the case. And what the rest of 46 00:01:56,987 --> 00:01:59,547 Speaker 4: the flight controls were agreeing with me is they're quite difficult. 47 00:01:59,667 --> 00:02:02,427 Speaker 4: Just the different forces that we weren't sort of anticipating 48 00:02:02,907 --> 00:02:04,707 Speaker 4: have definitely come online and are really tricky. 49 00:02:04,867 --> 00:02:06,947 Speaker 2: There's four days long enough to to get up to 50 00:02:07,267 --> 00:02:09,427 Speaker 2: pardon the pun, get up to speed with them. 51 00:02:09,907 --> 00:02:10,587 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 52 00:02:10,627 --> 00:02:12,147 Speaker 4: But that's kind of a cool part about it is 53 00:02:12,187 --> 00:02:14,147 Speaker 4: we're all going to be learning and racing at the 54 00:02:14,147 --> 00:02:17,427 Speaker 4: same time. So I think for myself today is just 55 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:19,347 Speaker 4: trying to focus on, you know, keep you things simple, 56 00:02:19,787 --> 00:02:21,627 Speaker 4: you know, exploring what we've learned the last few days, 57 00:02:21,627 --> 00:02:24,387 Speaker 4: at the same time trusting our skills that we know 58 00:02:24,507 --> 00:02:25,307 Speaker 4: previously worked. 59 00:02:25,507 --> 00:02:28,747 Speaker 2: You've outlined been there from the start. You've lost wing 60 00:02:28,827 --> 00:02:31,827 Speaker 2: from mccyle langthen to the Italian syndicated of season five. 61 00:02:32,067 --> 00:02:34,107 Speaker 2: Oh I know he went with your best wishes, but 62 00:02:34,387 --> 00:02:37,227 Speaker 2: he's been an integral part of the boat. Has any 63 00:02:37,307 --> 00:02:39,027 Speaker 2: how strange is it not having him there? 64 00:02:39,067 --> 00:02:41,307 Speaker 3: It is different. We lost thirty kilos off the rail 65 00:02:41,347 --> 00:02:41,667 Speaker 3: as well. 66 00:02:41,907 --> 00:02:45,507 Speaker 4: We've got the light Chris Drafer, who is a lot 67 00:02:45,547 --> 00:02:47,667 Speaker 4: smaller but just as skilled in every way, and he's 68 00:02:47,707 --> 00:02:50,507 Speaker 4: been a great addition to the team. Not only is 69 00:02:50,547 --> 00:02:52,147 Speaker 4: it something fresh, but it's made us to look into 70 00:02:52,147 --> 00:02:54,107 Speaker 4: our own roles as well. Chris has brought another level 71 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:57,147 Speaker 4: of professionalism, but us having coffee off Carl this morning, 72 00:02:57,147 --> 00:02:58,027 Speaker 4: so there's no bad blood there. 73 00:02:58,067 --> 00:02:59,787 Speaker 3: We're all great mates and I've wish him the best 74 00:02:59,827 --> 00:03:00,187 Speaker 3: this weekend. 75 00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:02,347 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking to Peter Burling before and they've obviously 76 00:03:02,347 --> 00:03:05,707 Speaker 2: lost Andy Maloney to the Brazilian team. This open market 77 00:03:05,787 --> 00:03:08,827 Speaker 2: is now part of sale GP. Do you like the concept? 78 00:03:08,907 --> 00:03:09,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's great. 79 00:03:09,747 --> 00:03:11,227 Speaker 4: I think you see that in a lot of American 80 00:03:11,227 --> 00:03:13,627 Speaker 4: sports where you have the new additions to the team 81 00:03:13,707 --> 00:03:16,227 Speaker 4: like we've had the Italians, the Brazilians, and the fact 82 00:03:16,227 --> 00:03:18,467 Speaker 4: that they can buy experience, I think is really good 83 00:03:18,467 --> 00:03:20,187 Speaker 4: to bring them up to speed as quick as possible. 84 00:03:20,227 --> 00:03:22,107 Speaker 4: Like I said, I've been here for five seasons and 85 00:03:22,147 --> 00:03:23,907 Speaker 4: for someone to come in, you know, a new team 86 00:03:23,947 --> 00:03:26,387 Speaker 4: to come in fresh that will definitely come in at 87 00:03:26,387 --> 00:03:27,027 Speaker 4: a disadvantage. 88 00:03:27,027 --> 00:03:28,667 Speaker 3: So I think it's really good for the teams. 89 00:03:28,867 --> 00:03:32,707 Speaker 2: I've heard Tom talk about team culture and how important 90 00:03:32,707 --> 00:03:36,027 Speaker 2: that is in Sale GP. I think something that's important 91 00:03:36,067 --> 00:03:39,227 Speaker 2: to all successful sports teams. What does good team culture 92 00:03:39,307 --> 00:03:41,987 Speaker 2: look like and feel like on the boat and even 93 00:03:42,027 --> 00:03:42,467 Speaker 2: off the water. 94 00:03:43,147 --> 00:03:45,667 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean we're all really 95 00:03:45,667 --> 00:03:48,027 Speaker 4: close mates, which I think is important. There's a real 96 00:03:48,067 --> 00:03:52,987 Speaker 4: fundamental trust there to you know, respect each other's skills 97 00:03:53,027 --> 00:03:55,707 Speaker 4: and also the different quirks that we all have off 98 00:03:55,707 --> 00:03:58,787 Speaker 4: the water. But yeah, we take a lot of pride 99 00:03:58,827 --> 00:04:00,587 Speaker 4: in how tight our team is as a culture, and 100 00:04:00,627 --> 00:04:02,507 Speaker 4: we have a really high level of standards. You know, 101 00:04:02,547 --> 00:04:05,987 Speaker 4: we hold ourselves accountable to excel and that's what we 102 00:04:06,027 --> 00:04:06,827 Speaker 4: try to do each day. 103 00:04:07,227 --> 00:04:09,987 Speaker 2: Having won the first three seasons of sale GP, what 104 00:04:10,107 --> 00:04:11,027 Speaker 2: was season four? 105 00:04:11,227 --> 00:04:11,307 Speaker 4: Like? 106 00:04:11,387 --> 00:04:13,067 Speaker 2: How do you reflect on season four? 107 00:04:13,507 --> 00:04:15,427 Speaker 3: Man? It's such a wave, you know. 108 00:04:15,467 --> 00:04:17,707 Speaker 4: We started the season really well, I think six podiums 109 00:04:17,707 --> 00:04:19,507 Speaker 4: in a row, leading the league, and then we had 110 00:04:19,627 --> 00:04:24,307 Speaker 4: unfortunately that big incident in christ Church where we literally 111 00:04:24,387 --> 00:04:26,467 Speaker 4: land on top of a mark, you know, and that 112 00:04:26,627 --> 00:04:28,467 Speaker 4: is something that will happen, you know, when you're racing 113 00:04:28,507 --> 00:04:30,347 Speaker 4: these boats at these levels, that you will make a 114 00:04:30,387 --> 00:04:31,027 Speaker 4: mistake like that. 115 00:04:31,867 --> 00:04:33,867 Speaker 3: Every team's done it, and that was just our time. 116 00:04:34,427 --> 00:04:36,147 Speaker 4: And then we just really struggled to get the boat, 117 00:04:36,187 --> 00:04:37,867 Speaker 4: the confidence in the boat back up to where we 118 00:04:37,907 --> 00:04:40,667 Speaker 4: wanted to be and had a really hard second half 119 00:04:40,707 --> 00:04:42,827 Speaker 4: of the season. So we're really hoping to trying to 120 00:04:42,827 --> 00:04:44,987 Speaker 4: turn that around this season, and we had a really 121 00:04:44,987 --> 00:04:47,187 Speaker 4: good event in Dubai and not the best result, but 122 00:04:47,227 --> 00:04:49,107 Speaker 4: everything else was perfect and we've had a really good 123 00:04:49,187 --> 00:04:50,387 Speaker 4: lead in here. 124 00:04:50,187 --> 00:04:54,747 Speaker 2: The christ Hurch incident replayed, I'm sure you've probably stopped 125 00:04:54,827 --> 00:04:58,067 Speaker 2: replaying what actually happened? Can you break it down for us? 126 00:04:58,427 --> 00:04:59,107 Speaker 2: Been a for a pine sight? 127 00:04:59,187 --> 00:04:59,907 Speaker 3: Has it gone anywhere? 128 00:04:59,907 --> 00:05:03,227 Speaker 4: I still have nightmares about it, mate, Yeah, I mean 129 00:05:03,267 --> 00:05:05,587 Speaker 4: it was just why of there're situations where boats at 130 00:05:05,907 --> 00:05:09,187 Speaker 4: the limit, lots of breeze in christ Church and then yeah, 131 00:05:09,307 --> 00:05:11,027 Speaker 4: just a sort of pinch point on the boundary in 132 00:05:11,027 --> 00:05:13,147 Speaker 4: this marker, probably probably where it shouldn't have been, but 133 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:15,187 Speaker 4: everyone else got around it except for us, So it 134 00:05:15,227 --> 00:05:18,187 Speaker 4: was really on us that made the mistake. But like 135 00:05:18,227 --> 00:05:19,547 Speaker 4: I said, it's just one of those things, it's going 136 00:05:19,587 --> 00:05:22,387 Speaker 4: to happen. It's a it's a high action sport and 137 00:05:22,587 --> 00:05:24,547 Speaker 4: you're going to crash because we push the limits and 138 00:05:24,587 --> 00:05:26,387 Speaker 4: that was our time. Unfortunately we didn't want to be 139 00:05:26,387 --> 00:05:28,587 Speaker 4: as bad as that, but it is what it is. 140 00:05:28,627 --> 00:05:30,107 Speaker 4: Everyone was safe and everyone was okay. 141 00:05:30,747 --> 00:05:33,027 Speaker 2: So you've got your home event coming up next, But 142 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:35,747 Speaker 2: how much would you like like any good Australian to 143 00:05:35,747 --> 00:05:37,627 Speaker 2: come over to New Zealand and beat the kiwis on 144 00:05:37,667 --> 00:05:38,227 Speaker 2: their home water. 145 00:05:38,827 --> 00:05:40,467 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean we would love that, but we 146 00:05:40,467 --> 00:05:42,387 Speaker 4: would love to beat everyone else as well. You know 147 00:05:42,427 --> 00:05:44,467 Speaker 4: that is an ambition to be better than the Kiwi's, 148 00:05:44,547 --> 00:05:46,867 Speaker 4: is to be the best as we can be, and that. 149 00:05:46,747 --> 00:05:47,987 Speaker 3: We believe is the top level. 150 00:05:48,067 --> 00:05:51,387 Speaker 4: So Auclea's been fantastic, what to turn out, The crowds 151 00:05:51,387 --> 00:05:53,627 Speaker 4: already have been amazing, and the weather you couldn't ask 152 00:05:53,627 --> 00:05:54,347 Speaker 4: for anything better. 153 00:05:54,627 --> 00:05:57,307 Speaker 2: And yeah, just on the condition, what I mean, do 154 00:05:57,347 --> 00:05:58,747 Speaker 2: you like them, what you're seeing in the forecast, do 155 00:05:58,747 --> 00:06:01,107 Speaker 2: you feel like it'll be conducive to what you're wanting 156 00:06:01,147 --> 00:06:02,387 Speaker 2: to do this afternoon and tomorrow? 157 00:06:02,427 --> 00:06:03,907 Speaker 3: I think so. I think. I think it's going to 158 00:06:03,907 --> 00:06:04,947 Speaker 3: be great for the spectators. 159 00:06:04,947 --> 00:06:09,227 Speaker 4: Such a short stadium, gracecourse and good bries today to 160 00:06:09,267 --> 00:06:09,947 Speaker 4: get us started. 161 00:06:10,027 --> 00:06:12,347 Speaker 3: I think we'll see really close racing. And then tomorrow 162 00:06:12,427 --> 00:06:13,027 Speaker 3: looks crazy. 163 00:06:13,147 --> 00:06:15,147 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm genuinely worried that we're going to have 164 00:06:15,187 --> 00:06:17,707 Speaker 4: some serious carnage, which I can't love at the same time, 165 00:06:18,787 --> 00:06:23,067 Speaker 4: but tomorrow will be top end, I believe. And from 166 00:06:23,187 --> 00:06:25,307 Speaker 4: yesterday the conditions were hard enough, so I can't wait 167 00:06:25,347 --> 00:06:26,267 Speaker 4: to be pushed even harder. 168 00:06:26,427 --> 00:06:28,667 Speaker 2: So I saw a little little twinkle in your idea 169 00:06:28,707 --> 00:06:30,587 Speaker 2: when you said cart, it's almost like you're looking forward 170 00:06:30,587 --> 00:06:32,627 Speaker 2: to something like that and testing yourself against it. 171 00:06:32,747 --> 00:06:33,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 172 00:06:33,547 --> 00:06:36,227 Speaker 4: I mean I love pushing myself and the boat and 173 00:06:36,267 --> 00:06:37,707 Speaker 4: the team to the limits, and I think that's what 174 00:06:37,707 --> 00:06:38,587 Speaker 4: you're going to get tomorrow. 175 00:06:38,707 --> 00:06:41,627 Speaker 2: Fantastic, Jason, Thanks for stepping in, Thanks for popping in 176 00:06:41,667 --> 00:06:43,547 Speaker 2: for a chat. All the best this afternoon and tomorrow. 177 00:06:43,587 --> 00:06:46,547 Speaker 2: I'll be watching especially closely tomorrow when there was winds 178 00:06:46,547 --> 00:06:48,307 Speaker 2: to get up, but thanks for taking the time for 179 00:06:48,307 --> 00:06:49,067 Speaker 2: a chill enjoy. 180 00:06:49,147 --> 00:06:52,547 Speaker 1: Thank you for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. 181 00:06:52,667 --> 00:06:55,947 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, 182 00:06:56,227 --> 00:06:58,307 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.