Speaker 1: The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap,
Speaker 1: brought to you my next more to culture.
Speaker 2: Right, it's our great pleasure to welcome into the Agenda
Speaker 2: a podcast, Sam Whitelock, Captain Caveman, how are you good?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 2: Not so, Captain gave Man anymore. I'm not little bit
Speaker 2: disappointed you've come and you're clean shaven. You know you're retired.
Speaker 2: You've lost the look.
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I'm trying to hide it. See, I'd love
Speaker 3: to say that that's what I was just trying to do.
Speaker 3: I'm probably just trying to get rid of the grays.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: It just started from a little bit of my beer
Speaker 3: and it's just kind of making its way down, so.
Speaker 2: Down the chest and down into the Yeah, okay, I'll just.
Speaker 3: Get rid of them and pretend that I'm younger than thirty.
Speaker 2: We must be pretty hard for you to hide, because
Speaker 2: you're you're a big man. But you have released a
Speaker 2: book View from the Second.
Speaker 3: Row, not this one.
Speaker 2: No, that's the a sec book. You can peruce through that.
Speaker 2: I said you before. It's more picture book that one
Speaker 2: than a proper book. But before we get into it, now,
Speaker 2: did you watch the game yesterday, the Italy game, Sam
Speaker 2: Kine obviously playing his last game for the All Blacks. Well,
Speaker 2: what would have been going through I mean you obviously
Speaker 2: experienced that recently. What would have been going through Sam's
Speaker 2: head as he walked off and in there.
Speaker 3: I know for myself and Sam would be feeling exactly
Speaker 3: the same as when he came off.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 3: It was done, There's no more All Black stuff, And
Speaker 3: if anything, it's a weird feeling. And I know for me,
Speaker 3: like I finished at a World Cup, so there was
Speaker 3: a whole lot of different emotion. But the last time
Speaker 3: sitting in the change room, the last time captain's run
Speaker 3: the whole week, it kind of builds up on you.
Speaker 3: And you know, Sam's been a professional for a long time,
Speaker 3: so he would have his own processes in place to
Speaker 3: do everything to nail his performance on the game, which
Speaker 3: I thought he actually played pretty well. So when it
Speaker 3: happens and you go it's done, that's when it actually
Speaker 3: hits you. And it'll take him a way while to
Speaker 3: get used to the idea. And it's the same for myself.
Speaker 3: I'm still getting used to calling myself a retired rugby player.
Speaker 3: Now A few people are trying to pull me back in.
Speaker 3: I've had a couple offers of playing down south on
Speaker 3: the West Coast, I had a couple of charity games.
Speaker 2: How could you resist that? How could you resist going
Speaker 2: to the coast?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is actually quite challenging saying no to a
Speaker 3: few people and a few things. But we wanted to
Speaker 3: finish playing really good rugby. I didn't want to be
Speaker 3: the guy that was hanging on. I didn't want someone
Speaker 3: to say, you know, to their son and the crowd
Speaker 3: or their daughter and say, hey, that guy out there,
Speaker 3: he used to be a good player. He's just clicking
Speaker 3: the ticket now. And so that's probably one of the
Speaker 3: reasons that pulled up and finished when I.
Speaker 2: Did so last night. We watched the game yesterday morning.
Speaker 2: Actually were commentating myself, James and mcconey and I and
Speaker 2: we're big Chiefs fans, big Chiefs Mona fans. So you
Speaker 2: know there was a lump in James mcconey's throat when
Speaker 2: Sam Kane was coming off. But I need to ask
Speaker 2: you a question. When you get issued your kit, your
Speaker 2: all Blacks kit, do you ever get given gloves like
Speaker 2: warm winter gloves?
Speaker 3: Yes, Sevu Reese, I saw it straight away.
Speaker 2: What is going on here? He's got to play. He
Speaker 2: almost ruined the moment for Sam Kane that's ever going
Speaker 2: to be known as Sevu Reese with playing socks on
Speaker 2: his hands.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: The best thing is he's probably taking them off his
Speaker 3: feet and he could be saying, oh, my hands are cold,
Speaker 3: but he would have taken them off his feet and
Speaker 3: then gone, ah, my feet are cold now. So Sevu
Speaker 3: would have been doing it for Ai. To keeper's hands
Speaker 3: will obviously Fiji in heritage, but might not be the
Speaker 3: sharpest too when it comes to keeping warm and the cold.
Speaker 3: He's just not used to it.
Speaker 2: We had to stop and rewind it and watch it again.
Speaker 2: It was one of the one of the great moments
Speaker 2: going back to retirement. How are you? What are you
Speaker 2: up to now? What are you doing stuff? Because you've
Speaker 2: been a professional athlete for as far as I can
Speaker 2: remember watching rugby just about Sam Whitelock's always been there.
Speaker 2: What do you obviously you switch off? What do you do?
Speaker 2: What are you doing with your Yeah?
Speaker 3: So played my first game of touch rugby when I
Speaker 3: was about three three and a half four and thirty
Speaker 3: six now, so I finished my last game for the barbars.
Speaker 3: We played against Fiji and Twickenham end of May and
Speaker 3: since then we've actually been able to do some amazing
Speaker 3: things as a family. So we traveled the UK Europe
Speaker 3: for ten weeks and it was awesome. It was everything
Speaker 3: that we wanted and needed as a family. But since
Speaker 3: been back in New Zealand, we've moved to the Hawk's
Speaker 3: Bay and now we're farming. So my hands are a
Speaker 3: lot harder than they used to be throwing around a
Speaker 3: rugby ball and enjoying the challenges that come with moving
Speaker 3: to a new place, doing something completely different, even though
Speaker 3: I got some family history and grew up on a farm,
Speaker 3: so yeah, doing something completely different but enjoying it so.
Speaker 2: Far nice and was that always the goal going back
Speaker 2: into farming yep at the end, So playing career.
Speaker 3: All my uncles and aunties are on the land or
Speaker 3: have been on the land at some stage farming. Got
Speaker 3: a number of cousins doing the same thing. My brother
Speaker 3: older brothers on the family farm as well, so there's
Speaker 3: quite a bit of farming chat that's thrown in between
Speaker 3: the footy and the kids. And yeah, it's been cool.
Speaker 3: So just looking forward to what the next challenge is
Speaker 3: at the moment. It's kind of I tried to explain
Speaker 3: it to someone, It's like I'm playing club rugby, but
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do it at an international level. So
Speaker 3: I'm pretty green around a few things on the farm
Speaker 3: and I have two stuff members. Sometimes they're looking at me,
Speaker 3: going what are we doing now, and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. We're just kind of feeling our way through it.
Speaker 3: But I've got some good people there supporting, and that's
Speaker 3: been awesome, awesome.
Speaker 2: It's great because I have talked to a few recently
Speaker 2: retired cricketers and one particular cricketer who you know, he'd
Speaker 2: been in the setup since he was eighteen nineteen years old,
Speaker 2: and when he finished playing, he said he didn't really
Speaker 2: know what to do because no one slipped a piece
Speaker 2: of paper under his door to tell him where he
Speaker 2: should be, what he should be wearing, and where they're going.
Speaker 2: And he was like, I didn't know what he said.
Speaker 2: He was lost for a walks. He's like, I know,
Speaker 2: of telling me what to do, that is that the
Speaker 2: same in the all black setup?
Speaker 3: No, it's exactly right. So I've been told we're to
Speaker 3: be what to wear, what to do, what training we're doing,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden for us being on the farm,
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, do I start work at six? Do
Speaker 3: I start at seven or start at ten? Yeah, And
Speaker 3: it's really nice having that flexibility and just kind of
Speaker 3: working through when I want to get out the door.
Speaker 3: Do I do a couple of hours first and come
Speaker 3: back and see the kids before they go to school,
Speaker 3: or do I work a little bit later. And it's
Speaker 3: just working for Hannah and myself out what is the
Speaker 3: best bang for our buck and where do I fit
Speaker 3: into it because I used to be away all the time,
Speaker 3: where now she's kind of like, are you going away soon?
Speaker 3: I'm kind of getting sick of you a little bit here.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been cool and hopefully they're not too
Speaker 3: sick of me just yet.
Speaker 2: So is that you you're not going to kind of
Speaker 2: in terms of rugby, You're not look looking at any
Speaker 2: kind of coaching roles or admin administration roles or anything
Speaker 2: like that. You're on the farm and that's it.
Speaker 3: No. I'm doing a little bit of coaching in Japan
Speaker 3: at the moment, so I've got a couple of trips
Speaker 3: up there every season for the next couple of years.
Speaker 3: I'm helping out Panasonic, where Robbie Deans is been coaching
Speaker 3: for the last ten twelve years, as a team I
Speaker 3: played for. So it's been really nice stepping back into
Speaker 3: them and just kind of, you know, I don't really
Speaker 3: have a pacific role or an area I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of finding my own feed in that
Speaker 3: coaching space.
Speaker 2: A vibe guy going along as yeah a little bit.
Speaker 3: I do have my mouthguard and my toilet bag as
Speaker 3: I travel. But Robbie keeps saying, look, don't bring that,
Speaker 3: don't wear rugby boots because you'll get tempted to show
Speaker 3: someone something and you'll tweak a hammy or a calf
Speaker 3: or do your backs.
Speaker 2: Or the red mist of the scene when some puts
Speaker 2: a shot on you.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, it's trying to get the body to
Speaker 3: do what it's meant to do. I'm still in pretty
Speaker 3: good shape, hopefully, but just getting that balance riders the
Speaker 3: key thing. And Robbie is a mentor, is an awesome person.
Speaker 2: To Japan's a great place as well, a great place
Speaker 2: to spend a few months. You mentioned before your brother
Speaker 2: is also your older brothers on the family farm you
Speaker 2: grew up with three brothers. I only grew up with
Speaker 2: one brother and that was enough for me in terms
Speaker 2: of you must have played some mean games of running
Speaker 2: straight in the backyard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still have our teams now. So it was
Speaker 3: always George the oldest, Luke the youngest. So there's only
Speaker 3: five years between all four of us. So as soon
Speaker 3: as we went, George and Luke fist Adam and I
Speaker 3: being the middle, it actually evened out pretty pretty quick.
Speaker 3: So like if Adam and I gaged up on, George
Speaker 3: would probably have the upper hand and then Luke was
Speaker 3: thrown in the mix. So then yeah, it kind of
Speaker 3: just escalated from there. And so many times it was
Speaker 3: I'd get bored annoy Luke, Luke would get up to set,
Speaker 3: Adam would jump in and to defend Luke, George would
Speaker 3: jump and Dad would come home and sort us all out.
Speaker 2: So that sounds so hectic for your parents. You got five,
Speaker 2: You've got four boys under five, so in that space
Speaker 2: of holy Man, that must have been one hell of
Speaker 2: a household.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, I explained about it in
Speaker 3: the book a little bit around. I think the wording
Speaker 3: I use is we were a bit rough around the edges,
Speaker 3: but we used to lock babysitters out of the house
Speaker 3: and we just will take that little bit of leeway.
Speaker 3: She'd be like, go put a jusey on, So we'll
Speaker 3: go put ten jusies on, and then she'd like, go
Speaker 3: take it off, and go take all of them off,
Speaker 3: and we we probably just were needed a bit of
Speaker 3: smoothing off.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, but all be pretty successful footy
Speaker 2: players in their own right as well, so that must
Speaker 2: have been part of it in terms of, you know,
Speaker 2: you would have been so physical from such an early
Speaker 2: age that you would have come across on the rugby
Speaker 2: field and they were like, who these lunatic white locks
Speaker 2: who have already looked like they've probably got broken noses
Speaker 2: and coulie flowered ears and they haven't even hit intermediate school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all like, like, you call me keep and
Speaker 3: came in can be quite period times. So I think
Speaker 3: my older brothers were shaving quite earlier at school. And
Speaker 3: I remember I was just learning to shave and might
Speaker 3: have been about fourteen fifteen, and I just tried to
Speaker 3: have a shave, got to school and one of the
Speaker 3: teachers like, you need to go have a shave, and
Speaker 3: I was like I just had one today, But I'm
Speaker 3: sure there's a bit of gs to involved there, but
Speaker 3: that's kind of what what we were, you know, growing up,
Speaker 3: and enjoyed our time at school because we're all at
Speaker 3: high school together as well, so it was all in
Speaker 3: one and all in and we had some amazing fun
Speaker 3: and even running into people now that haven't seen for
Speaker 3: a while at school. A couple of those stories come up,
Speaker 3: and it's quite nice some of them didn't make it
Speaker 3: to the book.
Speaker 2: There's one particular thing in the book that I enjoyed,
Speaker 2: and that's your you've got it. You're incredibly unlucky when
Speaker 2: it comes to credit card roulette? Is that that sounds
Speaker 2: like a horrible run of credit card reallytt And I
Speaker 2: mean most boys trips or whatever do this, And I'm
Speaker 2: glad that it's actually played in the All Black camp
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even now I'm starting to sweat because I'm sure
Speaker 3: you're going to go right, get your credit card out,
Speaker 3: we're going to play. So I think I lost it
Speaker 3: was seven in a row. A white crocket actually put
Speaker 3: it in his book and he threw me under the
Speaker 3: bus because I'd kind of kept most of it away
Speaker 3: from hand and my wife, but he put it all
Speaker 3: the details in his book and he absolutely got me
Speaker 3: in some massive trouble. But when it got really bad,
Speaker 3: as I actually lost the credit card roulette, which was
Speaker 3: my seventh time on the top of the Eiffel Tower. Oh,
Speaker 3: and you know, I was still pretty young at that stage,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, my card's going to bounce. Lucky
Speaker 3: Rido is there and he chucked down some cash their
Speaker 3: head in his pocket and that managed to scrape me
Speaker 3: through with my overdraft limit and whatever it else.
Speaker 2: That's potentially the most expensive restaurant in Paris. Oh.
Speaker 3: The worst thing was Luke Romano was in track pants
Speaker 3: and jendles dressed up because that's just what he was wearing.
Speaker 3: It was one of those things of shall we try
Speaker 3: to get in here? And the guy down the bottom goes, hey, look,
Speaker 3: this is really expensive. There's probably not going to be
Speaker 3: a spot for you, and you're not dressed, and I
Speaker 3: think he saw Rido or whoever it was, and his oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you guys come up. And Luke and I were starving
Speaker 3: afterwards because we just ate a little bit of bread
Speaker 3: there and the meal came out and it was tiny,
Speaker 3: and yeah, definitely hurt the pride more than anything.
Speaker 2: So do you so, I mean, I'm sure you played
Speaker 2: credit card really the same with everyone else. Do you
Speaker 2: just put it into a small bowl and you get
Speaker 2: the weight to just put your hand in, And I mean,
Speaker 2: is your credit card bigger than everyone else's? Is it
Speaker 2: a different weight?
Speaker 3: Now? That was the worst thing. That was exactly the
Speaker 3: same as a couple of other guys. So they draw
Speaker 3: it out, So two ways of playing it, the first
Speaker 3: one out or the last one. The last one obviously.
Speaker 2: Builds the tea dispense and the tension.
Speaker 3: And I think Krocky just grabbed everyone's cards and with
Speaker 3: his tear well broken fingers. Sorry, Crocky's not here to
Speaker 3: defend himself. He's kind of like shuffled them, looked at
Speaker 3: them half not looked with him, and he's just held
Speaker 3: up all four of them to the weight staff. And
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he might have set me up for it.
Speaker 3: So I think that's why he enjoys telling that story
Speaker 3: so much. But he lost the next time, which was
Speaker 3: so good. So yeah, I really enjoyed putting a little
Speaker 3: short one into his ribs and enjoying that meal.
Speaker 2: Do you miss that camaraderie, because I mean that must
Speaker 2: be a big part of being a part of any
Speaker 2: team really, but even the all blacks set up, do
Speaker 2: you miss You're any going to miss that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's only normal and natural. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like being on school camp. But you're in
Speaker 3: school camp for one hundred and fifty days of the
Speaker 3: year and some of your best mates of the air
Speaker 3: and you grow up together. So the guys that I
Speaker 3: started with, you know, the are the ones that you're
Speaker 3: probably closest with because you go through all those ups
Speaker 3: and downs, the highs, the lows, and not only yourself
Speaker 3: but also your family's grow up together, so your wives,
Speaker 3: your kids. So pretty cool to see my kids all,
Speaker 3: especially my son and Fred playing for the Mighty Pups.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: There was I think about a thousand first games on
Speaker 3: the sideline and about five hundred test matches when you
Speaker 3: had Ruben Reed, Kieran's son, frankis boy, he met Todd's boy,
Speaker 3: Cody Taylor's as he DAGs.
Speaker 2: The hell of a sideline. It was.
Speaker 3: It was amazing. It's actually quite embarrassing. We rock up
Speaker 3: to under six rapp a touch and the appearents wanted
Speaker 3: photos with us on the sideline, but we're trying to
Speaker 3: hood up on yeah, sunglasses, trying to hide. But it's
Speaker 3: cool to see all our wives take the lead and
Speaker 3: a lot of that and just nail what they needed
Speaker 3: to and allow us to be like everyone else appearents
Speaker 3: on the sideline and support not only your kids but
Speaker 3: the opposition as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. I was going to mention something else. There
Speaker 2: was a bit of if you've managed to go through
Speaker 2: your career pretty controversy free, I mean, you like mainly
Speaker 2: a little bit, but there was one particular time where
Speaker 2: we were in was in South Africa, were you Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it's one of those casic ones because trust me,
Speaker 2: this has happened to us on numerous occasions when something's
Speaker 2: taken the wrong way on social media and it goes
Speaker 2: to the wrong people when all of a sudden, Yeah
Speaker 2: you know that, I'm talking about the hunting the hunter, Yeah,
Speaker 2: how is that? How was that in terms of learning
Speaker 2: a lesson pretty quickly around social media? I think that
Speaker 2: was kind of because you're a hunter anyway. Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: I know where our food comes from. I grew up
Speaker 3: on a farm, so we understood if you wanted to
Speaker 3: egg to go to the Chokowski the eggs if you're
Speaker 3: having steak, you know, you understand that the stairs grown
Speaker 3: and it ends up in the freezer, et cetera. So
Speaker 3: I thought you're going to ask you about my pig
Speaker 3: Mary there for a second. Yeah, we won't go there.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit, a little.
Speaker 2: Bit okay, right, it's a bit emotional.
Speaker 3: But with the hunting stuff, the frustrating thing about it
Speaker 3: is we were over there with the crusaders and they
Speaker 3: had taken some photos who the professional hunting guys that
Speaker 3: were worth and they had sent it to some mates
Speaker 3: and a lady sat on it until the All Blacks
Speaker 3: team was named, which was probably three or four months later.
Speaker 3: And so in her defense, she timed it pretty well.
Speaker 3: She tried to have a maximum impact and she did that.
Speaker 3: Things were said that we didn't actually do. They said
Speaker 3: that we just shot everything and left all the meat
Speaker 3: and stuff was donated back to local village, so nothing
Speaker 3: was wasted, and things like that. So a little bit
Speaker 3: of the i'll have a comment here, or take it
Speaker 3: the wrong way and can be blind up in.
Speaker 2: The change the way that you behaved after that, or
Speaker 2: you did everything.
Speaker 3: No, not really, Like I knew that we hadn't done
Speaker 3: anything wrong. You know, everyone's allowed their opinion of whether
Speaker 3: they want to be vegetarian or not, what they eat
Speaker 3: and where they where it's produced and things like that.
Speaker 3: So like I studied a lot of conservation and college
Speaker 3: at university, and it's some one thing a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't know about me. And it's one way the
Speaker 3: local communities they are actually themselves out of potential poverty
Speaker 3: is through hunting and targeting the right species. Because the
Speaker 3: South African government actually comes in and culls a whole
Speaker 3: lot of things. So yeah, there's all those things in
Speaker 3: behind me. It's hard to explain to someone on social
Speaker 3: media without you know, getting boring and drinks out. So
Speaker 3: like I said, I wasn't too worried because I knew
Speaker 3: we hadn't done anything wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Okay, before we before we go, I
Speaker 2: do this with all our guests. It's called twenty two
Speaker 2: and two, So it's twenty two rapid fire questions in
Speaker 2: two minutes. It's just yes or no. It's a quick
Speaker 2: answer you can you can move on and pass. I
Speaker 2: think the last person we did this was with it
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson. Yeah, he was a couple of questions in here.
Speaker 2: He tripped off on so it's nice and quick.
Speaker 3: I hope there's no mess or spelling bee content, No, no.
Speaker 2: Sam white Lock. This is your twenty two and two.
Speaker 2: Coffee or tea? Sea sex or drugs? Sex or fast fast?
Speaker 2: Would you rather wake up ned next to Dan Carter
Speaker 2: or Richie mccaugh neither tire, Indian uh eat out or dinonnond,
Speaker 2: Freddy Mercury or Elton John Oh, Freddy wet or dry?
Speaker 2: We cats or dogs? Dogs, Trevis kelsor Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: I've actually got my Taylor. We went to Wembley. My
Speaker 3: daughters love it, so I'm wearing them. I can't wait
Speaker 3: for them to break off so I don't have to
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 2: You're the dead of the year. Did you take your
Speaker 2: daughters to to No?
Speaker 3: I didn't. I took two good mates and my wife.
Speaker 2: So oh okay? Almost Andrew Hoare, Anton Oliver and Scott Barrett.
Speaker 2: Who's the player you'd least like to shower next.
Speaker 3: To all of them? Probably?
Speaker 2: What rugby? What rugby legend? If you could? Would you
Speaker 2: bring back from the dead Jonah? Absolutely? If if the
Speaker 2: ceremony though to bring back Jonah is altered and you
Speaker 2: talking like Stephen mckiva for the rest of your life,
Speaker 2: which you still do it? Good man, This is easy one.
Speaker 2: If you ever fired a gun, never killed anything bigger
Speaker 2: than an insect. Yes, who's the most famous person you've met?
Speaker 3: Oh? Probably one of the royals or one of the
Speaker 3: basketball guys.
Speaker 2: Did you go to a basketball game?
Speaker 3: A couple of basketball games. That was pretty cool. As
Speaker 3: you met the food fighters that was awesome. Girl, Redo
Speaker 3: and I were there. We were pretty much fan fan
Speaker 3: boys and we're running late. I had traffic grad to
Speaker 3: run about ten k's after training, got blisters and shoes
Speaker 3: I wasn't used to running in, but it was well
Speaker 3: worth it. Got there dripping with sweat, so I met
Speaker 3: the food fighters stinking sweetie and blisters everywhere.
Speaker 2: It's funny when you because I met carry o'keef old
Speaker 2: scale the commentator, and I all of a sudden found
Speaker 2: myself totally fanboying out. I didn't know what to say
Speaker 2: and I was like yeah, I was like, hey, Like
Speaker 2: I just totally bottled it. He must have thought I
Speaker 2: was a compla freak. Anyway, if you had a reoccurring
Speaker 2: dream that a snowman killed himself with a hair dry
Speaker 2: Would you be concerned?
Speaker 3: I think I would be.
Speaker 2: If you were offered a knighthood, would you accept it?
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that probably is?
Speaker 2: A knighthood, Sir, Sir Sam Whitelock.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't make anyone call me that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what age do people say they've had a
Speaker 2: fall instead of falling over? What's the tipping point there?
Speaker 3: Eighty two?
Speaker 2: Have you ever screamed? Google me, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: I haven't a lady that has said that before, so
Speaker 3: I have said it to her a bit of ingest.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, here's one for you. Move to think about it,
Speaker 2: and could be on the farm if you were going
Speaker 2: to get a statue made of yourself, So you can
Speaker 2: think about this. What pose would it be? And where
Speaker 2: would you put the statue? I'll give you. I'll give
Speaker 2: you an example why you think about it. Tim Soudy
Speaker 2: said that he would put he would be nude on
Speaker 2: a stallion that was rare up and he had put
Speaker 2: it on the front lawn of Daniel Vitorre's house. That's
Speaker 2: the kind of it. It's a lot about Tim Southy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I probably never would have a set you made.
Speaker 2: Of me your credit card on White Crocketts.
Speaker 3: Now you should have seen me that question earlier.
Speaker 2: You maybe you like holding his credit card on his
Speaker 2: front lawn.
Speaker 3: Maybe at the dining room table. So every time he
Speaker 3: takes any mouthful, he knows who paid for that meal.
Speaker 2: So it's you. That's quite that's quite. Innove a statue
Speaker 2: that's inside on the dining room table.
Speaker 3: Just almost like the centerpiece, you know, so like every
Speaker 3: time he eats, no matter what meal, is just always
Speaker 3: looking at him, and they just want to have that
Speaker 3: look of a thousand foot steer, you know, like just
Speaker 3: slip through his soul.
Speaker 2: No, I say the book is out now. View from
Speaker 2: the second row. Sam Whitelock, absolute pleasure to have you,
Speaker 2: have you in here in the studio today. I know
Speaker 2: you've got the media car wash you've been doing for
Speaker 2: a couple of days. I know you're probably gagging back
Speaker 2: to get on the farm and Hawk's Bay. But thank
Speaker 2: you very much for your time and best of luck
Speaker 2: with the book. I'm sure it's going to go well.
Speaker 2: Good stocking stuffer for any rugby fans out there, But
Speaker 2: good luck with your retirement. Good luck on the farm
Speaker 2: and hopefully we'll see you around.
Speaker 3: Thank you thanks for having me in. I've always wanted
Speaker 3: to come in, but nice to finally get here just
Speaker 3: as I've finished my playing career.
Speaker 2: Perfect perfect timing.
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