1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Kate Hawksby's with us along with Tim Wilson. Good morning, 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: good morning, good morning. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: Good morning. How many people do you reckon Fell for 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: your paper mache art story? 5 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: Exactly? 6 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? 7 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Was that why the boss was talking to you? Stop 8 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: making See? 9 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: How many people don't understand I don't understand art? Do they? 10 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: It's just like everyone's a critic and a skeptic. 11 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: It's like what we know for a fact is that 12 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: absolutely none of that was true. 13 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely no, that was true. But here's the deal. The 14 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: AI Hosking will be able to create beautiful. 15 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Did you read that, but you'd be a listener reader? 16 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Did you read the article and the listener about me? 17 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: No? 18 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: I was glad you read it because I don't have 19 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: the paywall, so thanks a lot. 20 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Is there a paywall on the listener? Yeah? Oh my god? 21 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: Who thought of that? I mean? Who would pay money 22 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: for the listener? 23 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm pretty. 24 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: I get. I mean that do they understand that a 25 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: paywall is on a supply demand basis and you need 26 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: a demand. 27 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: Here's the deal I found. I found listeners up because 28 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: me and the boys tramp the pinnacles during your holiday 29 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: and and at the hut at the top of the pinnacles. 30 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: There are listeners, there are new listeners, so they I'll 31 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: tell you who buys the listeners. It's trampers. 32 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Trampers read the listener. I think that. 33 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: Actually makes sense to me. That that that that. 34 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: That trampers drink gum boot tea. Read the listener and 35 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: read the listener like across and listen to tune into 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Jesse Mulligan for a laugh. Yeah, actually speaking about. 37 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: Is a funny guy. But they probably they probably they 38 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: still don't know that Jeanette fitz Simon's has left the 39 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: Green Party, so then they keep voting. 40 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Well, that might be why they're tramping. They're looking for it. Now, 41 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: speaking of the Afternoon Show, am I and I'm making 42 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 1: this up as they go along. But here's my problem 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: for the week. Do the Afternoon Show the new Afternoon Show? 44 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Do they operate? And hear? I knew it. So the 45 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: first thing they sitting in your chair? 46 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: They would they would? Would I heard them joking about 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: sitting in your chair? 48 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's going to change. So first, first clue, 49 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the left first clue was there's a separate screen. There's 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: a new screen, So I thought, hold on, maybe they 51 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: are in here. So that was fine. I don't mind 52 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: because I share because I'm not only an out, but 53 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: I'm a client sharing that. 54 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: That's why Jason was talking to you. You want your 55 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: own just for you, because I mean, they really shouldn't 56 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: be in there, should they? 57 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Because they're pigs. I'm just going to call it right now. 58 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: They are disgusting, messy little pigs. So the only thing 59 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to the bottom of is one of 60 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: them sits literally where I do, and the other person 61 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: sits on the other side. Now, the person here's the 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing, and as the person who cleans up 63 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: in the studio at first thing in the morning with 64 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: my dyson, the person the one on the other side 65 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: is the big pig. And I don't know how much 66 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: food they consume and where they get it from, but 67 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: very very little of it goes in their mouth and 68 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: most of it ends up on the floor. And the 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: stuff they put in the rubbish pin is sticky and 70 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: it smells, and the whole thing just reeks of disaster. 71 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: Now I'm going this. 72 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: As the best Mike's Minute you've done all week. 73 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: This fantastic, I'm going to guess, because I'm going to 74 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: get you which one of the two it is because 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I saw I saw the other day for the first 76 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: time Tyler. I saw a photo of him for the 77 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: first time the other day. I don't know Tyler, but 78 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I saw a photo of him the other day and 79 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: it was that classic thing where he looks nothing like 80 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I assumed he did. 81 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: That's very radio, isn't it very very radio? 82 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: But I have met Matt. And if ever you've seen 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: a photo of Matt or met Matt, and you look 84 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: at the photo of Tyler and then have met Matt, 85 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: and then you ask the question, which low rent is 86 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: going to leave most of their lunch on the floor. 87 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm thinking that's Heath. Am I right? Or 88 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Am I right? 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: I think you're I think you're probably I'd say you're 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: probably being on. 91 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to triangulate this, Yeah, I'd say so. I 92 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: don't want to throw Met under a bus, but probably him. 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know Tyler either, but I imagine 94 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 2: Tyler is in your chair. 95 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Tyler seems Tyler seems a shade repressed. But that's that's 96 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: coming from a person who doesn't know him, but certainly so. 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Dr Hoskin is. 98 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: In the house like quietly off air. 99 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: You know me, everything had just comes to my mind. 100 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: He strikes me as a person who doesn't drop his sandwiches, 101 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: whereas whereas Matt Matt strikes me as just a complete 102 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: wreck and so all. 103 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: He's doing, Matt Matt strikes me as a person who 104 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: throws sandwiches across the room just for fun. 105 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon, that's true. And the question is, and 106 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: we need to take a break. What am I going 107 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: to do about it? Because it's it's unacceptable. What I'm 108 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: just They've just their producer. Who's their producer? It is Andrew. 109 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Andrew's just texted, and they've got a special lunch organized 110 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: for today, the whole lunch. They are the newbies. They've 111 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: been here for three and a half minutes. For God's sake. 112 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: Hey, look, I just I had a reflection during during 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: the break, which is that you might be judging a 114 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: book by its cover. So Tyler might be a peer repressed, 115 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: well groomed and self controlled, yes, but in the studio 116 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: may maybe something else comes out. 117 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: It may be a crazy guy. Yeah, well it seys here. 118 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: Definitely this must have come up in the program, because 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Sue texts me it's definitely isn't tyler that leaves a 120 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: mess if you can wash his towels every day? He's 121 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: pretty bedanetic having said that I wash my towels every day. 122 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also you go out, you wash your tails 123 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: every day. 124 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: I wash my tails every. 125 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: Day, and you eat in the control room and the 126 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: news and in the breaks, which is maybe what they 127 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: should be doing instead of good. 128 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: God, one, caddie, you should be a management here. I 129 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: don't know why management who is here, who is paid 130 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: to do a job, don't implement a few basic structures 131 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: like leave the studio and go to the lunch room 132 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: each lead. 133 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: Like which which towels? You mean you wash your bath 134 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: towels every day? 135 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Well, no details are constantly because I'm constantly in the kitchen. 136 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: The amount of baking I do on a daily basis 137 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: at the moment. But yes, my my bath to. 138 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: All the showering and saunering. He burns through a lot 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: of towels. 140 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: How were your school holidays? By the way, Tim, apart 141 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: from the pinnacles, they were great. 142 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: Actually, what we what we did this week was we 143 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: we want to get the boys working, so we made 144 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: up little pamphlets offering their services as dog walkers and 145 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: lawn waterers, which probably not so good given the rain. 146 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: And we wandered around the neighborhood distributing those blood in 147 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: your style, and the people come back with offers. Nothing yet. 148 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: But I got to tell you, you're talking about metrics, 149 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: talking about the o c R. The letter boxes in 150 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: our city are a disgrace, filled to brim. They got soggy, 151 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: you know, the soggy local rag poking out of it. 152 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: No one's moved letterbox are a metric. We're in trouble. 153 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: What's the percentage of letterboxes that have no flyers? Please? 154 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: It's the phrases no junk mail. I interpreted that as 155 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: actual mail, a pamphlet from a young man wanting to 156 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: make something of himself. I thought I'll just bypass that. 157 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: A high percentage, absolutely high percentage. 158 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Were we, Katie, walking as we do, hand in hand 159 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: with young Lewis up the street and we looked up 160 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: the driveway to a house that we have coveted, and 161 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: up the driveway on the house we have coveted was 162 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: a young man who was water blasting as driveway. Am 163 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: I correct? And am I correct? 164 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? You see quite a lot of that. Maybe it's 165 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think there are some industrious young 166 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: people out there, especially bear in mind at school holidays. 167 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: That's right. And what did I turn and say to you, 168 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: apart from along the lines of was it or was 169 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: it not? Along the lines of where did we go 170 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: so badly wrong in our parenting? 171 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You said, none of our kids have 172 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: water blasted the. 173 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Driveway exactly, And further, I said, if we'd asked any 174 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: about kids to water blast the driveway, you know what 175 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: would have happened, And what would have happened is no 176 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: water blasting. And the you are as a beacon of 177 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: hope for us all. But can I can I. 178 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: Just give some context, which is that when certain boys 179 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: are reminded, as they are every morning, that to get dressed, 180 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: to make their beds, to empty the dishwasher, the howls 181 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: of outrages and this is some appalling regime that has 182 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: just been conceived overnight to suppress and miserate them, and 183 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: just wouldn't believe it. 184 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Do you want some good news, Katie? 185 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love some good news. 186 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Third season of Fisk about to drop. 187 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: Ah, that's not as good as telling me that no, 188 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 2: there are better. There are better shows. 189 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: That I would name three. 190 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: Well, I was said that they Chaos. 191 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: Which I enjoyed on Netflix, and they were going to 192 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: do a second season. 193 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: They're now or not, and so that's because is what 194 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: Netflix does and just cancel. Just devastating. 195 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: Well, Fisker has got three seasons. How can a three 196 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: season show be worse than one that didn't even make 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: it make it past one? 198 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: I reckon the tramp is reading the listener? Would watch fisk. 199 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. I think that's probably true. Season one 200 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: was brilliant, Season two was fantastically disappointing. So there's hope 201 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: for season three. 202 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: I think I think you guys need to spend less 203 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: time sitting on the couch looking at the telly and 204 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: more time handheld walks. 205 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: We do know what we do is we do handhold walks. 206 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: And then what I do is I rub her feet 207 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: in front of the television. I do a lot of 208 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: foot rubbing in front of the television. 209 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: I did I do that with Rachel? 210 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: Wow? 211 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: Do you want to swap for a while? Did she 212 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: have last week? 213 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: He's got the best She's got the best feet in 214 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: the world. 215 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean sorry, it's just a little a little 216 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: bit loose on a Friday. Anyway, to see you guys, 217 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll catch up this time next week if 218 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: if all goes well, Kate Hawk's be Tim Wilson for another. 219 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: Week for more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, some live 220 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: to news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or 221 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio