1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:16,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. The only place for the big names, 3 00:00:16,787 --> 00:00:22,627 Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies, and the big conversations. 4 00:00:22,947 --> 00:00:26,347 Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your 5 00:00:26,467 --> 00:00:28,667 Speaker 1: home of Sport News Talks ed B. 6 00:00:30,667 --> 00:00:33,867 Speaker 2: Canta get afternoon and welcome into the Saturday edition of 7 00:00:33,987 --> 00:00:37,387 Speaker 2: Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. January twenty five. I'm 8 00:00:37,467 --> 00:00:40,307 Speaker 2: Jason Pine, Show producers Andy McDonald. We're head till three 9 00:00:40,427 --> 00:00:44,427 Speaker 2: talking sport. A double dose of gold for our kiwis 10 00:00:44,467 --> 00:00:46,627 Speaker 2: at the X Games in Aspen this morning, as you 11 00:00:46,707 --> 00:00:50,547 Speaker 2: heard in our Sports News, snowboarder zoe Sadowski Senate has 12 00:00:50,587 --> 00:00:54,307 Speaker 2: claimed gold in the women's slope Style. It's the fifth 13 00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:56,187 Speaker 2: time she's won the event, and. 14 00:00:56,267 --> 00:01:01,907 Speaker 3: With that, Zoey Sadowski Sitate is guaranteed her sixth career 15 00:01:02,347 --> 00:01:03,587 Speaker 3: X Games gold medal. 16 00:01:03,667 --> 00:01:05,627 Speaker 2: So I guess that was kind of expected, But what 17 00:01:05,667 --> 00:01:09,427 Speaker 2: wasn't was free Luca Harrington pulling off a shockwin in 18 00:01:09,467 --> 00:01:13,387 Speaker 2: the men's ski slope style after originally being named as 19 00:01:13,427 --> 00:01:14,547 Speaker 2: just an alternate for the event. 20 00:01:14,587 --> 00:01:16,227 Speaker 4: What's he gonna spent on this final jump? 21 00:01:16,667 --> 00:01:22,147 Speaker 3: Going Jake knock Switch for Triple Cork sixteen twenty. 22 00:01:22,707 --> 00:01:24,867 Speaker 5: The smile on his face says it all. 23 00:01:25,027 --> 00:01:27,347 Speaker 2: Welcome to Winter X Games. 24 00:01:27,427 --> 00:01:29,347 Speaker 6: Luca Harrington, you are here. 25 00:01:29,427 --> 00:01:31,987 Speaker 2: Triple Cork sixteen twenty. I've got no idea what that means, 26 00:01:31,987 --> 00:01:34,947 Speaker 2: but man, it sounds impressive. Zarbe Sadowski, Senate is with 27 00:01:35,107 --> 00:01:37,667 Speaker 2: us on the show after one o'clock this afternoon. The 28 00:01:37,667 --> 00:01:40,707 Speaker 2: show is coming to here today from christ Church, and 29 00:01:40,787 --> 00:01:43,987 Speaker 2: one of Canterbury's favorite sons won't be coming home early 30 00:01:44,347 --> 00:01:48,347 Speaker 2: from his Japanese adventure. New Zealand rugby All Blacks coach 31 00:01:48,347 --> 00:01:52,467 Speaker 2: Scott Robinson, Richie more Uner, and his Japanese club Toshiba 32 00:01:52,587 --> 00:01:55,747 Speaker 2: have been unable to reach agreement on Richie more Nger 33 00:01:55,867 --> 00:01:59,187 Speaker 2: foregoing the final year of his contract and returning home 34 00:01:59,227 --> 00:02:03,067 Speaker 2: in time for the All Blacks test matches later this year. Instead, 35 00:02:03,107 --> 00:02:05,747 Speaker 2: he will stay put and Razer will have to make 36 00:02:05,827 --> 00:02:07,547 Speaker 2: do with what he's got, which is actually pretty good 37 00:02:07,947 --> 00:02:11,547 Speaker 2: until the middle of twenty twenty six. Going to break 38 00:02:11,547 --> 00:02:13,747 Speaker 2: this down shortly with newstalk's FB rag Be edit to 39 00:02:13,787 --> 00:02:16,507 Speaker 2: Elliott Smith, but I really would like to read your 40 00:02:16,507 --> 00:02:19,547 Speaker 2: pulse on this. Do we need to revisit the rules 41 00:02:19,747 --> 00:02:23,987 Speaker 2: around eligibility or actually should Raizal just focus on the 42 00:02:24,027 --> 00:02:28,587 Speaker 2: players who are available to him other matters around Today 43 00:02:28,667 --> 00:02:32,147 Speaker 2: christ Church is new stadium tech Kaha taking shape. Going 44 00:02:32,187 --> 00:02:34,947 Speaker 2: to get an update on progress from Chief Executive of 45 00:02:35,067 --> 00:02:38,587 Speaker 2: Venues Au taul Tahee Caroline Harvey Tier. A bit later on. 46 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:41,187 Speaker 2: Hamish Kerr is back in action for the first time 47 00:02:41,227 --> 00:02:44,627 Speaker 2: since winning Olympic gold in Paris. Tonight he's with us 48 00:02:44,627 --> 00:02:47,587 Speaker 2: ahead of the Cooks Classic in Fanglanui. We have our 49 00:02:47,627 --> 00:02:50,467 Speaker 2: finalists for the Australian Tennis Open. Dave Worsley joins us 50 00:02:50,507 --> 00:02:53,627 Speaker 2: to recap the semis and preview the finals women's singles tonight, 51 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:57,547 Speaker 2: Men's singles tomorrow night. Speaking of christ Church, the Wellington 52 00:02:57,587 --> 00:03:00,187 Speaker 2: Phoenix have a game in christ Church this afternoon five o'clock. 53 00:03:00,187 --> 00:03:03,427 Speaker 2: Cost of barbarusis ahead of that and the tab cut 54 00:03:03,427 --> 00:03:06,227 Speaker 2: a Ka Millions is on at Allesleie a bit later 55 00:03:06,267 --> 00:03:07,907 Speaker 2: on today are going to preview that for you. Adam 56 00:03:07,947 --> 00:03:11,227 Speaker 2: Peacock out of Australia in his regular slot too, so 57 00:03:11,267 --> 00:03:13,387 Speaker 2: lots to get through live sport while we're on the air. 58 00:03:13,627 --> 00:03:17,667 Speaker 2: Super Smash Cricket at Bayoval Mount Monnginui Northern Districts against Otago. 59 00:03:17,707 --> 00:03:20,347 Speaker 2: The women's game underway at ten past two, with the 60 00:03:20,387 --> 00:03:23,267 Speaker 2: men's game to follow. You can join us at any 61 00:03:23,307 --> 00:03:25,827 Speaker 2: time in any way that suits you. Our eight hundred 62 00:03:25,987 --> 00:03:28,787 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is our free phone number ninet two 63 00:03:28,867 --> 00:03:30,507 Speaker 2: ninety two if you would like to send a text 64 00:03:30,547 --> 00:03:33,387 Speaker 2: or emails into me Jason at Newstalk SEDB dot co 65 00:03:33,587 --> 00:03:35,827 Speaker 2: dot Nz. Just gone ten past twelve. 66 00:03:36,547 --> 00:03:41,547 Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails Weekend 67 00:03:41,627 --> 00:03:45,347 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason zim News Talk zenb so. 68 00:03:45,667 --> 00:03:49,147 Speaker 2: An early return to New Zealand now looking highly unlikely 69 00:03:49,227 --> 00:03:52,147 Speaker 2: for fifty six Test All Blacks. First five Richie mu Wonga, 70 00:03:52,547 --> 00:03:55,907 Speaker 2: his Japanese club to Sheba and New Zealand Rugby were 71 00:03:55,947 --> 00:03:58,867 Speaker 2: in talks to four go the final year of his 72 00:03:59,187 --> 00:04:02,667 Speaker 2: three year contract, but those discussions have stalled and despite 73 00:04:02,707 --> 00:04:06,707 Speaker 2: All Blacks coach Scott Robertson, Robertson rather being very keen 74 00:04:07,267 --> 00:04:09,987 Speaker 2: to have his Crusaders quarterback as he used to call 75 00:04:10,027 --> 00:04:13,747 Speaker 2: him back in July, the earliest Richie Moonger can return 76 00:04:13,787 --> 00:04:15,747 Speaker 2: to the All Blacks looks like it will be the 77 00:04:15,787 --> 00:04:19,427 Speaker 2: middle of next year. The middle of twenty twenty six. 78 00:04:19,867 --> 00:04:21,627 Speaker 2: To kick this around, let's bring a news talk there'd 79 00:04:21,667 --> 00:04:24,387 Speaker 2: be Rugby editor Elliott Smith. Elliott, first of all, when 80 00:04:24,427 --> 00:04:27,147 Speaker 2: you heard this news during the week that an agreement 81 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:30,387 Speaker 2: had not been reached, did that come as a surprise. 82 00:04:31,747 --> 00:04:33,427 Speaker 4: It did a bit piney, to be honest with you, 83 00:04:33,547 --> 00:04:36,827 Speaker 4: because from what I'd heard towards the middle to later 84 00:04:36,867 --> 00:04:39,867 Speaker 4: point of last year, things were on track and there 85 00:04:39,907 --> 00:04:43,587 Speaker 4: was a relative sense of not comfort, but there was 86 00:04:43,627 --> 00:04:46,427 Speaker 4: some confidence that Richie Moorean would be back in New 87 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:51,147 Speaker 4: Zealand at some point in twenty twenty five. I guess 88 00:04:51,147 --> 00:04:55,587 Speaker 4: when the smoke signal stopped happening and the chatter died down, 89 00:04:55,667 --> 00:04:58,707 Speaker 4: it perhaps became more obvious that this was taking a 90 00:04:58,707 --> 00:05:03,027 Speaker 4: little bit longer than expected, and certainly had died down 91 00:05:03,067 --> 00:05:05,627 Speaker 4: in terms of the chatter on that front. So at 92 00:05:05,627 --> 00:05:08,307 Speaker 4: a certain point year looked like it was more likely 93 00:05:08,387 --> 00:05:10,827 Speaker 4: than not that he was coming home. And yeah, I 94 00:05:10,827 --> 00:05:13,787 Speaker 4: think overall a bit of a surprise that Richie Wonger 95 00:05:13,867 --> 00:05:16,867 Speaker 4: won't be back in New Zealand Rugby this year. Scott 96 00:05:16,947 --> 00:05:20,187 Speaker 4: Robertson certainly wanted him back. New Zealand Rugby were dead 97 00:05:20,307 --> 00:05:22,627 Speaker 4: keen on getting him back and I think Richie Wonger 98 00:05:22,747 --> 00:05:26,067 Speaker 4: was certainly open to the idea as well. But ultimately 99 00:05:26,067 --> 00:05:27,947 Speaker 4: New Zealand Rugby is going to have to wait now 100 00:05:28,907 --> 00:05:32,227 Speaker 4: and look at the alternate plans for this year and 101 00:05:32,267 --> 00:05:32,947 Speaker 4: the All Blacks. 102 00:05:33,067 --> 00:05:34,587 Speaker 2: So why couldn't they reach a deal? 103 00:05:35,307 --> 00:05:37,787 Speaker 4: Well, I think it has to be down to money. 104 00:05:38,347 --> 00:05:40,747 Speaker 4: That's the only thing that I can possibly think. He's 105 00:05:40,787 --> 00:05:44,147 Speaker 4: signed a deal with Tashiba. He's there for three years, 106 00:05:44,187 --> 00:05:46,507 Speaker 4: that's what he agreed to at the back end of 107 00:05:46,547 --> 00:05:50,467 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. He would have had to leave early 108 00:05:50,707 --> 00:05:53,107 Speaker 4: to come back to New Zealand Rugby early and would 109 00:05:53,107 --> 00:05:56,787 Speaker 4: have had to change his contract in some way, whether 110 00:05:56,827 --> 00:06:00,267 Speaker 4: it be financial compensation, which would be the most likely, 111 00:06:00,347 --> 00:06:03,147 Speaker 4: or perhaps they could have worked out some deferral of 112 00:06:03,147 --> 00:06:06,307 Speaker 4: his contracts through to maybe after the Rugby World Cup. 113 00:06:06,427 --> 00:06:08,827 Speaker 4: I still think that would have included some form of 114 00:06:08,907 --> 00:06:12,907 Speaker 4: financial compensation. So when you've got Tashiba, who have got 115 00:06:12,987 --> 00:06:16,067 Speaker 4: him locked down on a multimillion dollar deal for three seasons, 116 00:06:16,107 --> 00:06:19,667 Speaker 4: they've got their marketing around him, they've got pictures of 117 00:06:19,747 --> 00:06:22,587 Speaker 4: them obviously in their shirt. He's won them a title. 118 00:06:22,667 --> 00:06:25,787 Speaker 4: They don't want to let him go particularly easily. And 119 00:06:26,547 --> 00:06:28,147 Speaker 4: New Zealand Rugby would have had to come to the 120 00:06:28,187 --> 00:06:31,067 Speaker 4: party and figured out some sort of arrangement. Now, the 121 00:06:31,107 --> 00:06:33,507 Speaker 4: report this week suggested that to see it weren't necessarily 122 00:06:33,507 --> 00:06:35,987 Speaker 4: against the idea, but they would have had a number 123 00:06:36,147 --> 00:06:38,627 Speaker 4: or a clause and mind as to what it would 124 00:06:38,667 --> 00:06:41,067 Speaker 4: have taken for Richie Muong had to come home early. 125 00:06:41,347 --> 00:06:43,787 Speaker 4: They haven't been able to meet on that front, and 126 00:06:44,347 --> 00:06:47,107 Speaker 4: now the wedding game goes on. For New Zealand Rugby, 127 00:06:47,147 --> 00:06:50,747 Speaker 4: Tasheba at least know that the ongoing season in Japan 128 00:06:50,827 --> 00:06:52,507 Speaker 4: League One they'll have them till the end, which they 129 00:06:52,507 --> 00:06:54,707 Speaker 4: were always going to, but they'll have them for another 130 00:06:54,747 --> 00:06:58,227 Speaker 4: season as well now, which continues their ability to plan 131 00:06:58,547 --> 00:07:00,267 Speaker 4: getting into to next season. 132 00:07:00,907 --> 00:07:04,787 Speaker 2: Why is Scott Robertson so intent on bringing Richie Wong 133 00:07:04,867 --> 00:07:05,467 Speaker 2: a home early. 134 00:07:06,827 --> 00:07:09,387 Speaker 4: Well, I think you look at his Crusaders record and go, 135 00:07:09,667 --> 00:07:12,947 Speaker 4: this is the player that he trusted and gave the 136 00:07:13,027 --> 00:07:16,347 Speaker 4: keys to the team two for seven seasons straight and 137 00:07:16,467 --> 00:07:20,707 Speaker 4: delivered a trophy of some form in every season there. 138 00:07:20,867 --> 00:07:23,907 Speaker 4: So I think that's why, and he believes that he 139 00:07:23,947 --> 00:07:28,347 Speaker 4: can unlock that again. At All Blacks level. I think 140 00:07:28,787 --> 00:07:32,827 Speaker 4: Scott Robertson has developed a game plan in mind at 141 00:07:32,827 --> 00:07:35,827 Speaker 4: the Crusaders that he's begun to put into place at 142 00:07:35,827 --> 00:07:40,427 Speaker 4: All Blacks level that would suit Richie Moong's style of play. 143 00:07:40,707 --> 00:07:43,027 Speaker 4: We didn't see all of that in twenty twenty four, 144 00:07:44,067 --> 00:07:45,827 Speaker 4: but I think that's the player that he wants and 145 00:07:45,867 --> 00:07:49,467 Speaker 4: believes he's the vital key to delivering the All Blacks 146 00:07:49,467 --> 00:07:53,227 Speaker 4: World Cup success come twenty twenty seven. Now, of course, 147 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:56,707 Speaker 4: Richie Wonger left before Scott Robertson even got the All 148 00:07:56,707 --> 00:07:58,827 Speaker 4: Blacks job. That's how far back we're talking now in 149 00:07:58,987 --> 00:08:01,667 Speaker 4: terms of when things were signed. It was the end 150 00:08:01,667 --> 00:08:06,307 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty two that Richie wong has signed for Toshiba, 151 00:08:06,347 --> 00:08:09,427 Speaker 4: and he obviously joined after the twenty twenty three World Cup. 152 00:08:09,747 --> 00:08:11,667 Speaker 4: Scott Robinson was announced as All Blacks coach in the 153 00:08:11,667 --> 00:08:14,467 Speaker 4: twenty first of March twenty twenty three, so there's been 154 00:08:14,467 --> 00:08:15,787 Speaker 4: a lot of water, a lot of time to go 155 00:08:15,907 --> 00:08:18,387 Speaker 4: under the bridge. But Scott Robinson has always known that 156 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:20,187 Speaker 4: Richie m Wanger wouldn't be there for at least the 157 00:08:20,187 --> 00:08:22,907 Speaker 4: first season. There was conversations as I talked about around 158 00:08:22,907 --> 00:08:25,507 Speaker 4: getting in for the second season, but it has not 159 00:08:25,587 --> 00:08:27,867 Speaker 4: been a surprise that Richie Wonger has not been there 160 00:08:27,867 --> 00:08:29,827 Speaker 4: for the All Blacks. It wasn't like he signed after 161 00:08:30,187 --> 00:08:33,787 Speaker 4: Scott Robinson had begun as planning. So there needs to 162 00:08:33,827 --> 00:08:37,667 Speaker 4: be I guess, you know, a look towards playing some 163 00:08:37,707 --> 00:08:39,707 Speaker 4: other players and that which we've seen this year. Obviously, 164 00:08:39,707 --> 00:08:42,267 Speaker 4: Boden Barrett and Damien McKenzie. They're going to get more 165 00:08:42,307 --> 00:08:45,507 Speaker 4: time to audition this year come season twenty twenty five. 166 00:08:45,547 --> 00:08:47,747 Speaker 4: Now Richie Wonger won't be at the Helm this year. 167 00:08:48,587 --> 00:08:51,627 Speaker 2: You alluded to it before, but maybe just slightly expand 168 00:08:51,707 --> 00:08:54,507 Speaker 2: on Richie Wonger's mindset here. Do you think he wanted 169 00:08:54,547 --> 00:08:55,587 Speaker 2: to come home this year. 170 00:08:56,187 --> 00:08:57,867 Speaker 4: I think he was certainly open to the idea. I 171 00:08:57,867 --> 00:09:00,907 Speaker 4: know he gave some media interviews last July around the 172 00:09:00,947 --> 00:09:04,107 Speaker 4: fact and mentioned that obviously he did sign before Scott 173 00:09:04,187 --> 00:09:07,587 Speaker 4: Robinson had become All Blacks coach. The forge to sean 174 00:09:07,667 --> 00:09:12,067 Speaker 4: partnership at the Crusaders obviously, and as you mentioned, Scott 175 00:09:12,147 --> 00:09:15,627 Speaker 4: Robertson called Richie Wonger his franchise quarterback, so there's a 176 00:09:15,627 --> 00:09:18,587 Speaker 4: lot of trust there in that level. And you know, 177 00:09:18,587 --> 00:09:20,627 Speaker 4: if Richie Wonger had his time over again, maybe he 178 00:09:20,627 --> 00:09:22,667 Speaker 4: wouldn't have signed a three year deal. Maybe he would 179 00:09:22,667 --> 00:09:24,947 Speaker 4: have only gone for two and we'd be having this 180 00:09:24,987 --> 00:09:27,907 Speaker 4: discussion that Richie Wonger potentially is coming back in the 181 00:09:27,947 --> 00:09:29,707 Speaker 4: middle of the year. This is all you know, if, 182 00:09:29,747 --> 00:09:33,387 Speaker 4: what's maybe and you know, hypotheticals, really the fact as 183 00:09:33,387 --> 00:09:36,587 Speaker 4: he did sign that deal and probably there's a sense 184 00:09:36,627 --> 00:09:39,547 Speaker 4: of you know what if for Richie Wonger. He was 185 00:09:39,587 --> 00:09:43,827 Speaker 4: open to the prospect, as my understanding, but obviously didn't 186 00:09:43,827 --> 00:09:47,427 Speaker 4: want upset his current employers to Shiva because he signed 187 00:09:47,427 --> 00:09:50,067 Speaker 4: the deal with them, and you know, he's getting well 188 00:09:50,307 --> 00:09:53,827 Speaker 4: compensated for going over and doing so, so there's a 189 00:09:53,827 --> 00:09:58,187 Speaker 4: lot of plates in the air and juggling for Richie 190 00:09:58,227 --> 00:10:02,147 Speaker 4: Moonger to do. Obviously he's enjoying life in Japan. He's 191 00:10:02,147 --> 00:10:04,307 Speaker 4: won them a title already. But I think he would 192 00:10:04,627 --> 00:10:07,067 Speaker 4: definitely be keen to come back and and played for 193 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:10,307 Speaker 4: the All Blacks once again, knowing it was under Scott robertson. 194 00:10:10,907 --> 00:10:15,587 Speaker 2: How will this saga be leaving Bowden, Barrett and particularly 195 00:10:16,147 --> 00:10:19,667 Speaker 2: Damien McKenzie feeling when the All Blacks coach is off 196 00:10:19,747 --> 00:10:20,867 Speaker 2: chasing somebody else. 197 00:10:21,627 --> 00:10:25,067 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think there will certainly be a sense of, well, look, 198 00:10:25,427 --> 00:10:28,427 Speaker 4: we delivered a number of wins last year, and Damien 199 00:10:28,467 --> 00:10:32,307 Speaker 4: McKenzie started against Ireland, which was seen as one of 200 00:10:32,347 --> 00:10:36,027 Speaker 4: the beachmarks of last year along with those South African Tests. 201 00:10:36,067 --> 00:10:39,307 Speaker 4: And Damian McKenzie came back from a Boden Barrett injury 202 00:10:39,307 --> 00:10:41,427 Speaker 4: and started that Test and performed very very well. We 203 00:10:41,467 --> 00:10:43,947 Speaker 4: saw signs from Boden Barrett as well once he was 204 00:10:43,987 --> 00:10:46,147 Speaker 4: given the keys to the team in the latter part 205 00:10:46,187 --> 00:10:48,427 Speaker 4: of the year what he certainly came bele of. So 206 00:10:49,867 --> 00:10:52,867 Speaker 4: I think they'll be, you know, perhaps on the inside 207 00:10:52,907 --> 00:10:54,867 Speaker 4: quite perhaps happy that Richie Along is going to be 208 00:10:54,867 --> 00:10:57,907 Speaker 4: at least another year away from coming back to New Zealands. 209 00:10:57,907 --> 00:11:00,627 Speaker 4: They'll get another chance, you would think, to audition this year. 210 00:11:00,667 --> 00:11:03,507 Speaker 4: Barring perhaps a breakout star or a dominant Super Rugby 211 00:11:03,547 --> 00:11:06,347 Speaker 4: season from someone that's unheralded, They're going to get another 212 00:11:06,387 --> 00:11:09,147 Speaker 4: season to show they're whars and perhaps go, well, look, 213 00:11:09,187 --> 00:11:11,587 Speaker 4: you know, I deserve to be the first choice player 214 00:11:11,827 --> 00:11:15,067 Speaker 4: come twenty twenty six. In twenty twenty seven, I guess 215 00:11:15,107 --> 00:11:17,147 Speaker 4: there'll be a bit of frustration that a lot of 216 00:11:17,147 --> 00:11:19,667 Speaker 4: this conversation has been held about a player that has 217 00:11:19,707 --> 00:11:21,467 Speaker 4: not been in the All Blacks squad. Now for more 218 00:11:21,507 --> 00:11:24,227 Speaker 4: than a year. He has not played under Scott Robertson 219 00:11:24,307 --> 00:11:26,027 Speaker 4: as an All Black, yet has dominated so much of 220 00:11:26,067 --> 00:11:29,267 Speaker 4: the rugby conversation over the last eighteen months since he 221 00:11:29,547 --> 00:11:30,587 Speaker 4: decided to go to Japan. 222 00:11:31,107 --> 00:11:32,587 Speaker 2: So do you think this is the end of it, Elliott? 223 00:11:32,627 --> 00:11:34,627 Speaker 2: In terms of this saga, There's not going to be 224 00:11:34,627 --> 00:11:38,107 Speaker 2: a reopening of discussions now. Scott Robertson just focuses on 225 00:11:38,147 --> 00:11:41,027 Speaker 2: what he has and we wait for mid twenty twenty 226 00:11:41,067 --> 00:11:42,147 Speaker 2: six for Richie Warner. 227 00:11:42,627 --> 00:11:43,387 Speaker 7: Oh, I wouldn't. 228 00:11:43,667 --> 00:11:47,307 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe the way this has gone 229 00:11:47,347 --> 00:11:50,107 Speaker 4: and the twist and turns finally, we very well might 230 00:11:50,147 --> 00:11:53,387 Speaker 4: have another twist in the tail as yet. You know, 231 00:11:53,467 --> 00:11:56,107 Speaker 4: we're in the middle of the Tashiba season at the moment, 232 00:11:56,227 --> 00:11:58,507 Speaker 4: is a bye weekend in Japan League at the moment, 233 00:11:59,227 --> 00:12:01,987 Speaker 4: I wouldn't rule out perhaps another discussion. I think it'd 234 00:12:01,987 --> 00:12:04,267 Speaker 4: probably be unlikely, but let's not rule anything out. And 235 00:12:04,307 --> 00:12:06,507 Speaker 4: the other thing is as well, is that who's to 236 00:12:06,547 --> 00:12:09,507 Speaker 4: say that Richim Wanga will necessarily come back in twenty 237 00:12:09,587 --> 00:12:12,227 Speaker 4: twenty six. I mean, all the signs are there, We've 238 00:12:12,227 --> 00:12:13,787 Speaker 4: talked about it that he wants to come back to 239 00:12:13,827 --> 00:12:17,187 Speaker 4: New Zealand Rugby. But if Dashiba says, look, you've landed 240 00:12:17,227 --> 00:12:18,867 Speaker 4: us the title, it might be two by the end. 241 00:12:18,787 --> 00:12:19,787 Speaker 8: Of the season. Who knows. 242 00:12:19,987 --> 00:12:21,747 Speaker 4: We want you to stick around for another three or 243 00:12:21,747 --> 00:12:24,867 Speaker 4: four years. Here's the price peas to say that Richim 244 00:12:24,907 --> 00:12:27,827 Speaker 4: Wanger won't come back or won't stay at Dashiva and 245 00:12:27,867 --> 00:12:30,267 Speaker 4: decide not to come back to New Zealand rugby at all. 246 00:12:30,307 --> 00:12:33,107 Speaker 4: This is a saga that I don't think he's finished 247 00:12:33,107 --> 00:12:33,747 Speaker 4: by a long shot. 248 00:12:33,787 --> 00:12:36,027 Speaker 2: Pine It all right, lots to chat about. I'm sure 249 00:12:36,027 --> 00:12:38,947 Speaker 2: our listeners will have their views which we can hearttake now. 250 00:12:38,947 --> 00:12:42,427 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for starting the conversation for us, Elliott. 251 00:12:42,427 --> 00:12:43,067 Speaker 4: Pleasure find it. 252 00:12:43,187 --> 00:12:45,947 Speaker 2: Thanks mate. That's Elliot Smith, our rugby editor. Hear at 253 00:12:45,947 --> 00:12:48,907 Speaker 2: News Talks dB match commentator as well, who'll be in 254 00:12:48,987 --> 00:12:51,307 Speaker 2: charge of all of the All Blacks test matches in 255 00:12:51,387 --> 00:12:54,067 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, but none of them are going to 256 00:12:54,067 --> 00:12:57,707 Speaker 2: feature Richie Moonga. You've heard from Elliot Smith. Keen for 257 00:12:57,747 --> 00:13:00,547 Speaker 2: your thoughts on this now, Oh eight hundred eighty ten 258 00:13:00,747 --> 00:13:05,187 Speaker 2: eighty it's a free fund number. Do the eligibility rules 259 00:13:05,667 --> 00:13:10,427 Speaker 2: need to be looked dad? Or actually should Scott Robertson 260 00:13:10,627 --> 00:13:14,507 Speaker 2: just work with who he's got. I honestly think it's 261 00:13:14,547 --> 00:13:19,067 Speaker 2: the latter. Rather than chasing someone who, as things stand, 262 00:13:19,147 --> 00:13:23,147 Speaker 2: can't play for him, Razors should probably just work with 263 00:13:23,187 --> 00:13:25,107 Speaker 2: what he's got, And what he's got is a couple 264 00:13:25,187 --> 00:13:30,867 Speaker 2: of pretty decent first fives and Boden Barrett and Damien McKenzie. Now, 265 00:13:31,267 --> 00:13:35,267 Speaker 2: if Richim Wonger really is the twenty twenty seven Rugby 266 00:13:35,347 --> 00:13:40,227 Speaker 2: World Cup silver Bullets, then surely he's good enough to 267 00:13:40,307 --> 00:13:45,547 Speaker 2: reintegrate himself in the middle of next year where he'll 268 00:13:45,547 --> 00:13:48,187 Speaker 2: have the full international season, so all the test matches 269 00:13:48,267 --> 00:13:52,547 Speaker 2: New Zealand play next year, plus Super Rugby twenty twenty seven, 270 00:13:52,747 --> 00:13:56,467 Speaker 2: plus World Cup build up games in twenty twenty seven 271 00:13:57,307 --> 00:14:00,267 Speaker 2: to get himself back into the black saddle. 272 00:14:00,027 --> 00:14:00,507 Speaker 8: If you like. 273 00:14:01,867 --> 00:14:05,227 Speaker 2: For the meantime, it seems to me that Razors should 274 00:14:05,227 --> 00:14:07,627 Speaker 2: do what he did last year and work with the 275 00:14:07,627 --> 00:14:11,627 Speaker 2: guys he's got, actually do some coaching, and continue to 276 00:14:11,707 --> 00:14:15,267 Speaker 2: use those two within the framework of the game plan 277 00:14:15,347 --> 00:14:18,747 Speaker 2: that he believes will bring successful New Zealand at the 278 00:14:18,787 --> 00:14:22,307 Speaker 2: back end of twenty twenty seven oh eight hundred and 279 00:14:22,347 --> 00:14:25,987 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. I also wonder, and I said this 280 00:14:26,027 --> 00:14:33,507 Speaker 2: to Elliott, what all this chasing and unattainable player does 281 00:14:33,547 --> 00:14:36,227 Speaker 2: to the two who are still there, and in particular 282 00:14:36,307 --> 00:14:39,547 Speaker 2: Damien mackenzie, who of all of them, of the three 283 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:43,387 Speaker 2: of them, Mwana Barrett and Mackenzie is the only one 284 00:14:43,907 --> 00:14:48,307 Speaker 2: who fully committed to New Zealand rugby. After the last 285 00:14:48,307 --> 00:14:51,227 Speaker 2: World Cup, both Richie Warner and Boden Barrett signed in Japan. 286 00:14:52,027 --> 00:14:55,107 Speaker 2: So Damien McKenzie signed with New Zealand Rugby and probably 287 00:14:55,107 --> 00:14:58,107 Speaker 2: thought rightly so he'd have a decent run in the 288 00:14:58,147 --> 00:15:01,267 Speaker 2: ten Jersey. But Boden Barrett didn't about turn, decided to 289 00:15:01,267 --> 00:15:04,427 Speaker 2: come back and now races off chosing Richie Moarnger. If 290 00:15:04,467 --> 00:15:09,027 Speaker 2: I'm Damien McKenzie, I'm wondering what on earth is going 291 00:15:09,067 --> 00:15:13,027 Speaker 2: on here? What is his reward for turning down much 292 00:15:13,107 --> 00:15:17,107 Speaker 2: bigger money he could have earned overseas. His reward, it seems, 293 00:15:17,187 --> 00:15:21,827 Speaker 2: is to be told indirectly but fairly unequivocally that his 294 00:15:21,987 --> 00:15:25,387 Speaker 2: national coach doesn't think he can run the cutter in 295 00:15:25,427 --> 00:15:28,587 Speaker 2: a World Cup winning side. I mean, you couldn't blame 296 00:15:28,667 --> 00:15:31,587 Speaker 2: Damen mackenzie, could you if he decided to chase the 297 00:15:31,667 --> 00:15:35,947 Speaker 2: Japanese yen instead of sitting at b second and probably 298 00:15:35,987 --> 00:15:40,667 Speaker 2: third in the All Blacks first five pecking order. Oh 299 00:15:40,667 --> 00:15:44,067 Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty can you get your views 300 00:15:44,067 --> 00:15:50,147 Speaker 2: on this? Let's get to the phones. Hello Evan, Evan, 301 00:15:50,147 --> 00:15:51,747 Speaker 2: I haven't got you there, so we'll just make an 302 00:15:51,827 --> 00:15:55,787 Speaker 2: arrangement or an adjustment at our rent and hopefully we 303 00:15:55,787 --> 00:15:58,507 Speaker 2: can get Evan on the air shortly. I'll I think 304 00:15:58,547 --> 00:16:00,547 Speaker 2: we'll take a break. Actually, let's get a break away 305 00:16:00,587 --> 00:16:03,267 Speaker 2: twelve twenty two. When we come back, your calls, Oh 306 00:16:03,307 --> 00:16:05,147 Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 307 00:16:05,867 --> 00:16:09,587 Speaker 1: Some more than just a game weekend sport with Jason 308 00:16:09,627 --> 00:16:13,667 Speaker 1: Hyne and GJ. Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder, 309 00:16:13,787 --> 00:16:15,667 Speaker 1: News talgs be news talks. 310 00:16:15,707 --> 00:16:17,347 Speaker 2: They'll be twelve twenty five. So you plot me down 311 00:16:17,347 --> 00:16:19,107 Speaker 2: in a different city and different studio, and I can't 312 00:16:19,147 --> 00:16:21,987 Speaker 2: work the thing. I think I can now? Hello Evan, Hi, 313 00:16:22,227 --> 00:16:26,187 Speaker 2: Oh hellow can hear me? I can? I've got you there, mate? 314 00:16:26,747 --> 00:16:27,107 Speaker 9: Okay. 315 00:16:27,307 --> 00:16:29,587 Speaker 6: I think Razer's got to work with what he's got. 316 00:16:29,587 --> 00:16:32,667 Speaker 6: But also the easier AU should be looking at maybe 317 00:16:33,107 --> 00:16:35,467 Speaker 6: slight tweaking on their rolls. 318 00:16:36,067 --> 00:16:37,587 Speaker 2: What would that tweet? What would that tweak be? 319 00:16:37,627 --> 00:16:37,827 Speaker 7: Evan? 320 00:16:37,867 --> 00:16:39,267 Speaker 2: How would you tweak the rules. 321 00:16:39,867 --> 00:16:42,307 Speaker 10: Well, it's going to have a minimum amount of tests 322 00:16:42,387 --> 00:16:43,747 Speaker 10: where they can come back. 323 00:16:43,867 --> 00:16:44,987 Speaker 11: What is it at the moment? 324 00:16:45,347 --> 00:16:46,707 Speaker 2: None, you can't come back? 325 00:16:47,027 --> 00:16:51,427 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, yeah, I thought Connor was yeah or maybe thirty. 326 00:16:52,227 --> 00:16:54,587 Speaker 2: Yeah. There's the ghetto rule in Australia, which I think 327 00:16:54,667 --> 00:16:57,227 Speaker 2: started at about seventy. This was when they wanted Matt 328 00:16:57,267 --> 00:16:59,867 Speaker 2: Ghetto back, so they called it the ghetto Ghetto rule, 329 00:16:59,867 --> 00:17:02,387 Speaker 2: Ghetto law seventy. I think that's gone down now. In fact, 330 00:17:02,387 --> 00:17:04,267 Speaker 2: I don't know what the current situation is in Australia. 331 00:17:04,347 --> 00:17:07,547 Speaker 2: I just beg anybody, look. I I feel as though 332 00:17:07,907 --> 00:17:09,987 Speaker 2: that there probably has to at some stage be a 333 00:17:09,987 --> 00:17:12,827 Speaker 2: bit of negotiation around that. Evan. It's what I would 334 00:17:12,827 --> 00:17:16,627 Speaker 2: hate to see though, is for you know, like I said, 335 00:17:16,627 --> 00:17:18,747 Speaker 2: I think the mate while the rule is what it is, 336 00:17:19,347 --> 00:17:22,547 Speaker 2: it feels to me as though Scott Robertson should live 337 00:17:22,627 --> 00:17:25,147 Speaker 2: within those rules. Yes, agitate for a change if that's 338 00:17:25,187 --> 00:17:27,627 Speaker 2: what he's after, but it's not like he's got nobody 339 00:17:27,627 --> 00:17:29,027 Speaker 2: to wear the ten jersey back here. 340 00:17:29,587 --> 00:17:32,427 Speaker 10: Yeah, and then you can't always have this dream team, 341 00:17:32,587 --> 00:17:34,787 Speaker 10: and then we've lost guys like Harry's plumber. 342 00:17:34,907 --> 00:17:37,107 Speaker 2: Plumber is a great example, Evan. That is a that 343 00:17:37,187 --> 00:17:40,427 Speaker 2: is a perfect example of somebody who probably thought, well, 344 00:17:40,667 --> 00:17:42,587 Speaker 2: I'm third at best. Plus he would have seen that 345 00:17:42,787 --> 00:17:45,787 Speaker 2: Scott Robertson was chasing Richid Wonga, so he's fourth. So yeah, 346 00:17:45,947 --> 00:17:47,587 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised for Harry Plumber's gone. 347 00:17:47,707 --> 00:17:50,147 Speaker 6: Yeah, uncertainty and. 348 00:17:50,347 --> 00:17:52,987 Speaker 2: Uncertainty indeed, Evan, thanks for holding maid and apologies for 349 00:17:53,027 --> 00:17:55,707 Speaker 2: my technical blunder at the start there. Hello, Bevan. 350 00:17:57,467 --> 00:18:01,027 Speaker 9: Jesson, Look, yeah I should have. Don't think there's a 351 00:18:01,067 --> 00:18:03,707 Speaker 9: big buss to be made here about Richie Murana. I mean, 352 00:18:03,787 --> 00:18:07,227 Speaker 9: you're thirty years old. He's obviously trying to bank some 353 00:18:07,387 --> 00:18:11,227 Speaker 9: coin and everyone's running around like thinking, you know that 354 00:18:11,267 --> 00:18:14,067 Speaker 9: the guy walks on water. I mean he's a great player, 355 00:18:14,147 --> 00:18:16,507 Speaker 9: no doubt, but yeah, I just think it's a bit 356 00:18:16,547 --> 00:18:18,827 Speaker 9: of a bit of a fuss made over nothing. 357 00:18:19,427 --> 00:18:23,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously Scott Robertson sees him as as a bit 358 00:18:23,827 --> 00:18:26,427 Speaker 2: more than nothing. He obviously won all of those super 359 00:18:26,467 --> 00:18:29,947 Speaker 2: rugby titles with Richim Waringer in the ten Jersey. He's 360 00:18:29,987 --> 00:18:31,707 Speaker 2: familiar to him, he knows what he's going to get. 361 00:18:31,747 --> 00:18:34,307 Speaker 2: They probably know each other pretty well. So I think 362 00:18:34,307 --> 00:18:37,867 Speaker 2: Scott Robertson probably. In fact, I'm sure he does, otherwise 363 00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:39,787 Speaker 2: he wouldn't have gone through this, believes that he's the 364 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:41,347 Speaker 2: man to wear the ten jersey. I don't think any 365 00:18:41,387 --> 00:18:44,067 Speaker 2: of this reflects badly on Richie Warner. He's just playing 366 00:18:44,107 --> 00:18:46,067 Speaker 2: rugby to the best of his ability and doing it 367 00:18:46,107 --> 00:18:49,107 Speaker 2: pretty well for Tashiba, and I think he probably wants 368 00:18:49,107 --> 00:18:50,427 Speaker 2: to play for the All Blacks again, but it's all 369 00:18:50,427 --> 00:18:53,747 Speaker 2: sort of happening above him really rather than to him. 370 00:18:54,147 --> 00:18:57,347 Speaker 9: Yeah, and the yeah, okay, the set points. And the 371 00:18:57,387 --> 00:18:59,227 Speaker 9: second thing is is that I think that you should 372 00:18:59,267 --> 00:19:01,907 Speaker 9: just be eligible to play straight away. There should be 373 00:19:01,987 --> 00:19:06,707 Speaker 9: no standdown then who cares? Like if you you know, 374 00:19:07,147 --> 00:19:10,267 Speaker 9: you play overseas three, I mean I think Newby are 375 00:19:10,267 --> 00:19:12,707 Speaker 9: cutting off their nose despite their faces with that rule. 376 00:19:12,787 --> 00:19:16,027 Speaker 9: It's really outdated and it's kind of, I don't know, 377 00:19:16,427 --> 00:19:17,507 Speaker 9: it's a little bit immature. 378 00:19:17,947 --> 00:19:20,947 Speaker 2: Okay. So for you, it doesn't matter where you're playing, 379 00:19:21,187 --> 00:19:22,667 Speaker 2: you're eligible for the All Blacks. 380 00:19:23,147 --> 00:19:25,827 Speaker 9: Totally get on a plane, man. I mean like, if 381 00:19:25,867 --> 00:19:30,067 Speaker 9: you play in the English Premier League for Liverpool and 382 00:19:30,107 --> 00:19:32,227 Speaker 9: you get a call up to play for England, I 383 00:19:32,267 --> 00:19:34,227 Speaker 9: mean you can play for them straight away. 384 00:19:34,267 --> 00:19:34,427 Speaker 6: Right. 385 00:19:34,467 --> 00:19:36,627 Speaker 9: I mean, or if you're playing, if you're playing in 386 00:19:37,827 --> 00:19:42,187 Speaker 9: another league, you know, either Germany or bundes League or whatever, 387 00:19:42,707 --> 00:19:45,587 Speaker 9: and you're English, you're strattened to the side, aren't you. 388 00:19:45,587 --> 00:19:48,267 Speaker 2: You are very different though, isn't it, Bevin. The difference 389 00:19:48,347 --> 00:19:51,547 Speaker 2: is is that if you open that gate, what happens 390 00:19:51,547 --> 00:19:52,427 Speaker 2: to super rugby? 391 00:19:54,707 --> 00:19:54,907 Speaker 11: Well? 392 00:19:55,587 --> 00:20:00,227 Speaker 9: Yeah, but what comes first? Your country or super rugby? 393 00:20:00,307 --> 00:20:02,547 Speaker 2: I think I think they're both important. I think they're 394 00:20:02,547 --> 00:20:04,627 Speaker 2: both important. That's I mean, in fact, that is the 395 00:20:04,707 --> 00:20:08,387 Speaker 2: reason the rule exists. That's the only reason the rule exists. 396 00:20:08,987 --> 00:20:11,547 Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with talent. It's to do with 397 00:20:12,027 --> 00:20:14,787 Speaker 2: protecting super rugby. That's the reason the rule is there. 398 00:20:14,907 --> 00:20:16,467 Speaker 2: So look, we can debate whether the rules are good 399 00:20:16,507 --> 00:20:18,027 Speaker 2: one or not. A new Clearer don't think it is. 400 00:20:18,227 --> 00:20:20,307 Speaker 2: I think it is, and I don't. I don't think 401 00:20:20,347 --> 00:20:22,667 Speaker 2: either of us is wrong or right. But that's the 402 00:20:22,747 --> 00:20:23,747 Speaker 2: reason the rule is there. 403 00:20:25,067 --> 00:20:27,987 Speaker 9: If you're a good player, and you're a superstar knockout, 404 00:20:28,107 --> 00:20:31,787 Speaker 9: you know, a Muhammad Ali, you're you're you're you're on 405 00:20:31,787 --> 00:20:34,867 Speaker 9: a flora with one punch. You're you're you're playing for 406 00:20:34,907 --> 00:20:38,947 Speaker 9: your country first before super rugby. That I mean, I 407 00:20:38,947 --> 00:20:41,667 Speaker 9: can't understand why anybody would think Super rugby comes before 408 00:20:41,867 --> 00:20:42,787 Speaker 9: playing for your country. 409 00:20:42,947 --> 00:20:45,867 Speaker 2: I think it's probably because Super rugby has, as well 410 00:20:45,907 --> 00:20:49,547 Speaker 2: as provincial rugby over many years, provided the foundation upon 411 00:20:49,587 --> 00:20:52,267 Speaker 2: which the All Blacks have been built. A competition that is, 412 00:20:52,307 --> 00:20:55,947 Speaker 2: you know, that is world leading, A provincial competition that 413 00:20:56,067 --> 00:20:59,147 Speaker 2: is world leading, that has allowed the All Blacks to 414 00:20:59,427 --> 00:21:01,507 Speaker 2: develop their skills to the level that they have. I 415 00:21:01,507 --> 00:21:02,867 Speaker 2: think that's the rest the world leading. 416 00:21:02,907 --> 00:21:04,707 Speaker 9: If it was so world leading wide, it's South Africa 417 00:21:04,747 --> 00:21:05,267 Speaker 9: pull out of it. 418 00:21:06,747 --> 00:21:09,667 Speaker 2: Look, look I'm not I'm not saying that that's South 419 00:21:09,667 --> 00:21:12,107 Speaker 2: Africa pulling out of it or not. Is that's got 420 00:21:12,147 --> 00:21:13,867 Speaker 2: nothing to do with it, whether it's world leading or not. 421 00:21:14,187 --> 00:21:15,867 Speaker 2: You tell me what's a better competition, the one that 422 00:21:15,907 --> 00:21:17,907 Speaker 2: the South African teams are playing and now or the 423 00:21:17,907 --> 00:21:21,627 Speaker 2: one or Super rugby. What's the better competition? 424 00:21:24,067 --> 00:21:27,387 Speaker 9: Well, I think if I think the ability to bring 425 00:21:27,427 --> 00:21:31,467 Speaker 9: in the specific nation teams, if if they are quality 426 00:21:31,627 --> 00:21:35,027 Speaker 9: and they can be competitive, has probably replaced the loss 427 00:21:35,067 --> 00:21:38,627 Speaker 9: of the South African teams. So because obviously I'll live 428 00:21:38,787 --> 00:21:43,147 Speaker 9: in you know, we watched this sport, but but but 429 00:21:43,187 --> 00:21:45,467 Speaker 9: look what it's done to South Africa have they become 430 00:21:45,507 --> 00:21:48,147 Speaker 9: a better team because they their players are playing in 431 00:21:48,187 --> 00:21:51,027 Speaker 9: the Northern hemisphere, Well yeah, I mean their will their 432 00:21:51,027 --> 00:21:53,547 Speaker 9: World Cup, their World Cup performances would say yes. 433 00:21:53,467 --> 00:21:55,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hover above it. And you're right, they have. 434 00:21:55,747 --> 00:21:57,947 Speaker 2: And if that's if that's the most important thing, if 435 00:21:57,947 --> 00:21:59,867 Speaker 2: it's if it's if all you're worried about is the 436 00:21:59,867 --> 00:22:03,707 Speaker 2: all Blacks, then open that door. If you're if you're 437 00:22:03,747 --> 00:22:07,227 Speaker 2: more concerned, I guess about the white ecosystem, then I 438 00:22:07,227 --> 00:22:09,547 Speaker 2: think the discussion needs to be ongoing. But look, even 439 00:22:09,587 --> 00:22:11,467 Speaker 2: like I say, I don't know whether either of us 440 00:22:11,547 --> 00:22:13,227 Speaker 2: is right or wrong. I just think it's a good discussion. 441 00:22:13,907 --> 00:22:16,347 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they're symbiotic, right, I mean the relationship 442 00:22:16,507 --> 00:22:21,187 Speaker 9: that they one one gives the other the strength and 443 00:22:21,227 --> 00:22:23,147 Speaker 9: the power. But all I'm saying is that I just 444 00:22:23,187 --> 00:22:26,747 Speaker 9: believe that ultimately the super rugby or wherever whatever that 445 00:22:27,107 --> 00:22:30,227 Speaker 9: form is, feeds up into your into the into the 446 00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:33,147 Speaker 9: national side, and that has to take precedent. So like 447 00:22:33,147 --> 00:22:34,947 Speaker 9: what I'm saying is that if you've got a superstar, 448 00:22:35,627 --> 00:22:38,067 Speaker 9: you know, you've got Gary Lenker and you want to 449 00:22:38,067 --> 00:22:40,027 Speaker 9: bring him and play for England, you bring him in. 450 00:22:40,107 --> 00:22:42,467 Speaker 9: You don't say Oh you can't play Gary because you've 451 00:22:42,507 --> 00:22:44,147 Speaker 9: played over in Germany for a year. 452 00:22:44,307 --> 00:22:45,307 Speaker 12: That's ridiculous. 453 00:22:45,467 --> 00:22:48,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, what motivation would players have to stay? 454 00:22:50,467 --> 00:22:50,827 Speaker 9: Money? 455 00:22:51,427 --> 00:22:53,507 Speaker 2: No, but the money's bigger overseas. 456 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:55,467 Speaker 9: Well, that's why Richie's staying right now. 457 00:22:55,787 --> 00:22:57,987 Speaker 2: What I mean is what what what motivation would somebody 458 00:22:58,027 --> 00:23:01,427 Speaker 2: have to stay in Super Rugby if the rule was relaxed. 459 00:23:01,987 --> 00:23:05,947 Speaker 9: Oh your pride, you know, like representing your country, you know, 460 00:23:05,987 --> 00:23:08,587 Speaker 9: putting hand on your heart and on the on the 461 00:23:08,587 --> 00:23:11,307 Speaker 9: silver fern. I mean, it's got to mean more than 462 00:23:12,187 --> 00:23:14,787 Speaker 9: playing for Canterbury or why Kado or whoever. 463 00:23:15,147 --> 00:23:15,667 Speaker 2: No, I guess. 464 00:23:15,867 --> 00:23:16,107 Speaker 7: I mean. 465 00:23:16,107 --> 00:23:18,227 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, though, if they open it, if 466 00:23:18,227 --> 00:23:20,707 Speaker 2: we open up the rules and and anybody who's playing 467 00:23:20,747 --> 00:23:24,547 Speaker 2: anywhere in the world can can it represent the all blacks? 468 00:23:25,547 --> 00:23:27,507 Speaker 2: We all know the money is better off shore than 469 00:23:27,547 --> 00:23:30,947 Speaker 2: it is here in New Zealand. What why would someone 470 00:23:31,027 --> 00:23:31,787 Speaker 2: stay in New Zealand? 471 00:23:33,387 --> 00:23:35,227 Speaker 9: Well, they don't have to be in New Zealand. 472 00:23:35,187 --> 00:23:37,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So what would that do to Super Rugby? 473 00:23:39,267 --> 00:23:43,507 Speaker 9: Well, you look, we're talking about it. It's called Richie Munger. 474 00:23:43,547 --> 00:23:46,827 Speaker 9: He's playing for Tishiba and he doesn't play for Super r. 475 00:23:47,027 --> 00:23:50,707 Speaker 2: No I'm not sure you understood the question. If anybody 476 00:23:50,787 --> 00:23:53,627 Speaker 2: can just go and play overseas, that will dilute Super Rugby. 477 00:23:54,307 --> 00:23:56,627 Speaker 9: So there's a lot of there's a lot of young 478 00:23:57,067 --> 00:24:00,067 Speaker 9: talent out there around all the high schools, Rotora Boys 479 00:24:00,147 --> 00:24:02,827 Speaker 9: High School, wherever, in the whole of New Zealand. It 480 00:24:02,827 --> 00:24:05,027 Speaker 9: gives them opportunities. So why is that a bad thing? 481 00:24:05,107 --> 00:24:07,467 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna have to disagree. Bevan good to chat. 482 00:24:07,547 --> 00:24:10,787 Speaker 2: Here they mate and look, you're at one end of 483 00:24:10,867 --> 00:24:14,467 Speaker 2: this discussion of this argument, which is always a good debate. 484 00:24:15,867 --> 00:24:18,067 Speaker 2: The free market would say, okay, just open it up. 485 00:24:18,547 --> 00:24:20,427 Speaker 2: But when you open it up, what does that do 486 00:24:20,587 --> 00:24:24,227 Speaker 2: to Super rugby which is already struggling, Well, not struggling. 487 00:24:24,267 --> 00:24:26,667 Speaker 2: I think it's heading back in the right direction, but 488 00:24:26,787 --> 00:24:29,787 Speaker 2: it is in a battle for eyeballs. The reason we 489 00:24:29,827 --> 00:24:32,307 Speaker 2: watch Super Rugby, let's be honest, is the Derbies right 490 00:24:32,547 --> 00:24:34,427 Speaker 2: here in New Zealand. The reason we watched Super Rugby 491 00:24:34,467 --> 00:24:36,947 Speaker 2: as the Derbys. I might be wrong. There might be 492 00:24:36,947 --> 00:24:39,667 Speaker 2: a lot of people watching the Australian teams play, but 493 00:24:39,987 --> 00:24:42,667 Speaker 2: on any given Super Rugby weekend, I'll watch my team, 494 00:24:42,707 --> 00:24:45,947 Speaker 2: the Hurricanes, regardless of who they're playing and a New 495 00:24:46,027 --> 00:24:50,027 Speaker 2: Zealand derby. I'm very unlikely to watch a game between 496 00:24:50,307 --> 00:24:53,467 Speaker 2: another New Zealand team that isn't mine and an Australian team. 497 00:24:54,027 --> 00:24:57,027 Speaker 2: I'm here for the derbies. Now, if you dilute the 498 00:24:57,067 --> 00:25:01,987 Speaker 2: New Zealand Super Rugby franchises, take out everybody. Let's say, 499 00:25:02,187 --> 00:25:04,107 Speaker 2: take out everyone who was selected for the All Blacks 500 00:25:04,147 --> 00:25:07,187 Speaker 2: last year, the thirty six to forty players who played 501 00:25:07,187 --> 00:25:09,067 Speaker 2: for the All Blacks last year. Take them out of 502 00:25:09,107 --> 00:25:10,947 Speaker 2: Super Rugby and what does that do to get to 503 00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:15,667 Speaker 2: that competition? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty Arthur, thanks 504 00:25:15,667 --> 00:25:16,387 Speaker 2: for holding mate. 505 00:25:17,027 --> 00:25:21,467 Speaker 11: Hi there about the first five eights, we've got Barrett 506 00:25:21,507 --> 00:25:25,667 Speaker 11: and McKenzie and another talent guy from Taranaki. He was 507 00:25:25,707 --> 00:25:28,307 Speaker 11: in the second and. 508 00:25:28,427 --> 00:25:30,267 Speaker 7: Fifteen Josh Jacob. 509 00:25:30,307 --> 00:25:30,907 Speaker 2: Josh Jacob. 510 00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:34,067 Speaker 11: Yes, Jacob very talented and last year is just in 511 00:25:34,107 --> 00:25:36,747 Speaker 11: the widest squad of the Chiefs. Now now he's been 512 00:25:36,747 --> 00:25:39,707 Speaker 11: signed up for the full squad and the main squad 513 00:25:39,827 --> 00:25:42,787 Speaker 11: now and he's getting he's he's only about twenty four 514 00:25:43,107 --> 00:25:47,467 Speaker 11: and he's Barrett. With the other McKenzie got injured. He 515 00:25:47,467 --> 00:25:50,267 Speaker 11: could have get an opportunity to prove how good he is. 516 00:25:50,307 --> 00:25:52,907 Speaker 11: He could prove that he's up to all Black standard. 517 00:25:53,787 --> 00:25:55,707 Speaker 11: I feel so I've watched him. He's getting better and 518 00:25:55,747 --> 00:25:59,787 Speaker 11: better every year. He's very talented player, got kicking game, 519 00:26:01,027 --> 00:26:06,067 Speaker 11: very quick and fast. Yeh, So he's another first five 520 00:26:06,147 --> 00:26:08,227 Speaker 11: eights that's got to be looked at too. I think 521 00:26:09,187 --> 00:26:11,627 Speaker 11: it's one of those players got injured. I think he 522 00:26:12,147 --> 00:26:18,947 Speaker 11: could Slott in spotting the number one team got his opportunity. 523 00:26:19,027 --> 00:26:21,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I need three. Race is going to 524 00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:23,187 Speaker 2: need three this year. He's got two. He's got Bowden, 525 00:26:23,227 --> 00:26:26,667 Speaker 2: Barrett and Damien McKenzie. He's also got Stephen Petafetta who 526 00:26:26,667 --> 00:26:28,707 Speaker 2: can play there but probably won't play there a lot 527 00:26:28,707 --> 00:26:31,867 Speaker 2: for the Blues because body's there, Josh Jacob He's he's 528 00:26:32,147 --> 00:26:33,867 Speaker 2: in the Chiefs, isn't he. So he's going to probably 529 00:26:33,907 --> 00:26:36,587 Speaker 2: struggle for game time too with Damien McKenzie there. So 530 00:26:36,627 --> 00:26:39,387 Speaker 2: then you start looking at the other Super rugby franchises 531 00:26:39,427 --> 00:26:41,547 Speaker 2: and say, well, who were their first fives. I'm not 532 00:26:41,587 --> 00:26:43,747 Speaker 2: even sure the Hurricanes know who their first five is 533 00:26:43,787 --> 00:26:46,307 Speaker 2: this year. Brett Cameron's injured. I'm not sure who they're 534 00:26:46,307 --> 00:26:49,147 Speaker 2: going to play there. Down in christ Church in further 535 00:26:49,387 --> 00:26:51,707 Speaker 2: south in Otago I'm not sure that there's anybody down 536 00:26:51,747 --> 00:26:57,747 Speaker 2: there who fits the bill. So yeah, but yeah, he's 537 00:26:57,787 --> 00:27:00,347 Speaker 2: injured and back in round six to eight. I understand, 538 00:27:00,347 --> 00:27:02,627 Speaker 2: and probably will play fullback when he comes back. All 539 00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:05,467 Speaker 2: they might play first five, But yeah, I guess, I guess. 540 00:27:05,507 --> 00:27:07,507 Speaker 2: I think what I'd say is, regardless of who it is, 541 00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:10,067 Speaker 2: I feel like the All Blacks coach should work within 542 00:27:10,107 --> 00:27:13,187 Speaker 2: the parameters that are given to him. I totally get 543 00:27:13,187 --> 00:27:16,707 Speaker 2: that Scott Robertson wants to keep the discussion open about 544 00:27:16,707 --> 00:27:20,467 Speaker 2: overseas players, and he's using Richie Warner in many ways 545 00:27:20,507 --> 00:27:25,107 Speaker 2: as his battering ram for that particular conversation. But while 546 00:27:25,147 --> 00:27:27,947 Speaker 2: the rules are what they are, he's given it a crack. 547 00:27:28,467 --> 00:27:31,107 Speaker 2: It hasn't worked. Here we are on the twenty fifth 548 00:27:31,107 --> 00:27:34,067 Speaker 2: of January. Now needs to refocus, and I'm sure he 549 00:27:34,147 --> 00:27:37,067 Speaker 2: has towards coaching the players who are available to him. 550 00:27:37,747 --> 00:27:39,827 Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree, yep, good. 551 00:27:39,627 --> 00:27:41,707 Speaker 2: On, Yarthur, good chat. I hope Josh Jacin does have 552 00:27:41,747 --> 00:27:45,267 Speaker 2: a you know, does get opportunities this season. I would 553 00:27:45,307 --> 00:27:47,267 Speaker 2: love to have seen him come to the Hurricanes. That's 554 00:27:47,307 --> 00:27:50,467 Speaker 2: probably me just being a Hurricanes fan, but he would 555 00:27:50,507 --> 00:27:52,987 Speaker 2: have got the entire season, probably for the Hurricanes. Had 556 00:27:52,987 --> 00:27:55,667 Speaker 2: he come instead, he's probably going to be stuck behind 557 00:27:55,747 --> 00:27:59,587 Speaker 2: Damian McKenzie for game time at the Chiefs. Grant good, I. 558 00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:03,387 Speaker 10: Mate, Yeah. Finally, I think it would be a pr 559 00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:06,747 Speaker 10: disaster for the Rugby Union for two reasons if they 560 00:28:07,187 --> 00:28:10,587 Speaker 10: bought Richie Muwonga back. The first one is you've said 561 00:28:10,587 --> 00:28:14,107 Speaker 10: that about you know the mean, Okay, Richie Muwonger was 562 00:28:14,227 --> 00:28:17,947 Speaker 10: number one, first five when he left. Damien McKenzie and 563 00:28:20,227 --> 00:28:23,387 Speaker 10: Boden Bearret aren't too far behind. Any other country would 564 00:28:23,507 --> 00:28:26,147 Speaker 10: have them in there in their first team. The second 565 00:28:26,187 --> 00:28:29,067 Speaker 10: thing is the money side of thing. Clearly, they would 566 00:28:29,107 --> 00:28:31,827 Speaker 10: have to buy out his last year contract. Now he's 567 00:28:31,827 --> 00:28:34,867 Speaker 10: on a two million dollar contract. Normally it's sort of 568 00:28:34,867 --> 00:28:37,547 Speaker 10: about half price to buy at a contract, so say 569 00:28:37,707 --> 00:28:39,787 Speaker 10: one million dollars the rugby Union would have had to 570 00:28:39,787 --> 00:28:42,867 Speaker 10: pay to get him back a year early earlier. Now, 571 00:28:42,867 --> 00:28:45,747 Speaker 10: if I'm in a provincial rugby club that has just 572 00:28:45,867 --> 00:28:49,147 Speaker 10: had a request for a grant to repair our damaged 573 00:28:49,187 --> 00:28:52,227 Speaker 10: clubrooms turned down by the Rugby Union, then next week 574 00:28:52,267 --> 00:28:54,947 Speaker 10: they fork had a million to bring Richie Muwanga back, 575 00:28:55,307 --> 00:28:56,587 Speaker 10: I'm not happy. 576 00:28:56,867 --> 00:29:01,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's I believe. While why the discussions have stalled, 577 00:29:01,507 --> 00:29:03,147 Speaker 2: and Elliot Smith said that ground didn't he that? You 578 00:29:03,147 --> 00:29:04,947 Speaker 2: know it is money that you know, the money to 579 00:29:05,427 --> 00:29:09,347 Speaker 2: break his contract is something that was not palatable to 580 00:29:09,387 --> 00:29:11,267 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby. And so here we are, we stay 581 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:12,307 Speaker 2: where we are. 582 00:29:13,267 --> 00:29:13,427 Speaker 8: You know. 583 00:29:13,547 --> 00:29:15,867 Speaker 2: Richie Wonga, like I said, I think he comes out 584 00:29:15,867 --> 00:29:19,227 Speaker 2: of this. You know, with his reputation intact, he hasn't 585 00:29:19,267 --> 00:29:22,947 Speaker 2: agitated for a return. He's obviously listened to his former coach, 586 00:29:22,947 --> 00:29:24,867 Speaker 2: who I'm sure he's got a great deal of respect 587 00:29:24,907 --> 00:29:27,307 Speaker 2: for having worked under him at the Crusaders for all 588 00:29:27,307 --> 00:29:30,147 Speaker 2: of those championship winning seasons, and has said, hey, well, 589 00:29:30,187 --> 00:29:31,907 Speaker 2: you know, if we can make it work, yes, I'd 590 00:29:31,907 --> 00:29:34,827 Speaker 2: like to come back. You know, and for me, right, 591 00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:37,147 Speaker 2: Richie Wong should be playing for the All Blacks. He's 592 00:29:37,187 --> 00:29:40,947 Speaker 2: at the peak of his powers, but he can't because 593 00:29:41,187 --> 00:29:44,827 Speaker 2: he's playing in Japan. He's made that choice. New Zealand 594 00:29:44,907 --> 00:29:48,587 Speaker 2: Rugby makes its choice around eligibility. Here we are, let's 595 00:29:48,627 --> 00:29:50,107 Speaker 2: move on with who we've got and look forward to 596 00:29:50,187 --> 00:29:51,187 Speaker 2: him coming back next year. 597 00:29:51,907 --> 00:29:55,507 Speaker 10: Yeah, and like you said, he's gonna coming back twenty six. 598 00:29:55,707 --> 00:29:58,227 Speaker 10: He's going to have a full international season, doesn't matter 599 00:29:58,267 --> 00:30:00,947 Speaker 10: that he's not playing Super Rugby, he'd be playing the 600 00:30:02,107 --> 00:30:06,627 Speaker 10: UK country that comes out in June July and twenty 601 00:30:06,627 --> 00:30:09,107 Speaker 10: six he'll be playing at Rugby Championship. It'll be on 602 00:30:09,147 --> 00:30:11,387 Speaker 10: the end off a year tour the UK and. 603 00:30:11,307 --> 00:30:14,027 Speaker 2: Then and a full Super Rugby season in twenty seven, 604 00:30:14,067 --> 00:30:16,747 Speaker 2: plus warm up games play. I mean, if he is 605 00:30:16,787 --> 00:30:18,667 Speaker 2: in fact the silver Bullet, like I said, Grant, then 606 00:30:18,707 --> 00:30:22,107 Speaker 2: he'll easily reintegrate over that over that year to eighteen 607 00:30:22,147 --> 00:30:24,067 Speaker 2: months ahead of what we hope will be a World 608 00:30:24,107 --> 00:30:25,787 Speaker 2: Cup final back end of twenty seven. 609 00:30:26,507 --> 00:30:28,187 Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly, good on you. 610 00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,667 Speaker 2: Good to jet yep, Piney on text and bal answer. 611 00:30:30,867 --> 00:30:32,667 Speaker 2: We won't have a decent All Blacks team without a 612 00:30:32,707 --> 00:30:35,667 Speaker 2: strong New Zealand NPC and Super Rugby comp. I've played 613 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:38,027 Speaker 2: in both New Zealand and the UK. New Zealand far 614 00:30:38,147 --> 00:30:41,187 Speaker 2: better at the equivalent of Premier Club and MPC than 615 00:30:41,227 --> 00:30:44,467 Speaker 2: the UK. We can't destroy our domestic game hunting the 616 00:30:44,467 --> 00:30:47,587 Speaker 2: odd overseas player. The All Blacks will become weaker and weaker. 617 00:30:47,627 --> 00:30:50,067 Speaker 2: It'll be a slow death that simply can't be done. 618 00:30:50,667 --> 00:30:53,267 Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time to text through. It's 619 00:30:53,307 --> 00:30:55,187 Speaker 2: twenty to one. We'll take a break. Come back with 620 00:30:55,227 --> 00:30:57,307 Speaker 2: more of your calls after this The. 621 00:30:57,187 --> 00:31:01,067 Speaker 1: Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason Paine 622 00:31:01,147 --> 00:31:05,827 Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News. 623 00:31:05,027 --> 00:31:08,387 Speaker 2: Talk seventeen to one. Mic on text, Ponty, you can't 624 00:31:08,387 --> 00:31:11,267 Speaker 2: really blame Razor once you've driven a Ferrari. It's hard 625 00:31:11,307 --> 00:31:15,667 Speaker 2: to hop into a this same leaf mark. But on 626 00:31:15,827 --> 00:31:18,347 Speaker 2: Body and d Mac and this leaf, I'd say more 627 00:31:18,347 --> 00:31:21,467 Speaker 2: a lovely lexus. I don't think they step down, is 628 00:31:21,507 --> 00:31:25,027 Speaker 2: that much? Pete Hello, only a pioneer. 629 00:31:25,107 --> 00:31:27,387 Speaker 14: I agree what you're saying too. You know, if you 630 00:31:27,947 --> 00:31:31,947 Speaker 14: leave to go to the country and play somewhere else, well, 631 00:31:32,227 --> 00:31:35,307 Speaker 14: this year of your laid you, you've laid your you 632 00:31:35,347 --> 00:31:37,867 Speaker 14: made your Beaty can lie and don't expect because a 633 00:31:38,027 --> 00:31:41,107 Speaker 14: coach comes into New Zealand becomes a new coach, then 634 00:31:41,187 --> 00:31:43,307 Speaker 14: you can just jump ships when you when you decide to. 635 00:31:43,427 --> 00:31:46,387 Speaker 14: I reckon, Scott Robin should should realize that is too. 636 00:31:46,947 --> 00:31:51,467 Speaker 14: I feel sorry for Body and old Damie McKinsey. They're 637 00:31:51,507 --> 00:31:54,547 Speaker 14: treating him none fairly. I reckon, you know, just not on. 638 00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:57,067 Speaker 14: They're sort of doing the same thing like with Ian Robertson. 639 00:31:57,227 --> 00:31:58,947 Speaker 14: They treated him when he is a coach, and then 640 00:31:58,987 --> 00:32:01,627 Speaker 14: he's he's sort of going along the same lines. He's 641 00:32:01,627 --> 00:32:03,147 Speaker 14: going to learn a little bit of code of ethic. 642 00:32:03,227 --> 00:32:05,947 Speaker 14: Scott Robinson, you don't do somebody else like you're down 643 00:32:05,987 --> 00:32:06,347 Speaker 14: to yourself. 644 00:32:06,387 --> 00:32:08,827 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I don't think Richie Mulonga can 645 00:32:08,867 --> 00:32:11,347 Speaker 2: be put on the gun for this, Peter. I don't 646 00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:14,267 Speaker 2: think he didn't, like I say, unless unless it hasn't 647 00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:17,627 Speaker 2: been reported there. The approach was one way. It was 648 00:32:17,947 --> 00:32:20,867 Speaker 2: a Scott Robertson to Richie Mulonger to say, hey, if 649 00:32:20,907 --> 00:32:22,667 Speaker 2: we can make it work, do you want to come home. 650 00:32:22,947 --> 00:32:25,147 Speaker 2: Richie Moonger didn't get to year one or at the 651 00:32:25,227 --> 00:32:26,787 Speaker 2: end of the year two of his He's not even 652 00:32:26,827 --> 00:32:28,387 Speaker 2: at the end of the year two yet, he didn't 653 00:32:28,387 --> 00:32:29,947 Speaker 2: get to the end of year one in his contract 654 00:32:29,947 --> 00:32:31,587 Speaker 2: and say she as I'd love to go back. 655 00:32:32,227 --> 00:32:32,427 Speaker 7: You know. 656 00:32:32,467 --> 00:32:35,187 Speaker 2: I think he's happy in Japan. He's playing well. He's 657 00:32:35,187 --> 00:32:38,467 Speaker 2: earned Tsiba a League One title, their second at the 658 00:32:38,507 --> 00:32:41,387 Speaker 2: moment after five games of this season, I think he's 659 00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:43,427 Speaker 2: okay this So I'm not sure that there's any any 660 00:32:43,907 --> 00:32:47,267 Speaker 2: any you know, discourse, negative discourse to be ad to Richie. 661 00:32:47,307 --> 00:32:49,587 Speaker 2: But like I said, I have said a couple of times, 662 00:32:49,747 --> 00:32:52,907 Speaker 2: I think Scott Robinson, yes, have the conversation, you know, 663 00:32:52,987 --> 00:32:55,307 Speaker 2: continue to agitate about it, but actually work with what 664 00:32:55,347 --> 00:32:55,787 Speaker 2: you've got. 665 00:32:56,707 --> 00:32:59,907 Speaker 14: And I still reason, a contracts a contract. He's done 666 00:32:59,907 --> 00:33:01,867 Speaker 14: a three year contract with the in JP and so 667 00:33:02,307 --> 00:33:04,547 Speaker 14: contracts to contract. The people need to think, oh we 668 00:33:04,627 --> 00:33:06,907 Speaker 14: can get out of this contract. Well, contra not worth 669 00:33:06,987 --> 00:33:07,667 Speaker 14: the paper written on. 670 00:33:07,787 --> 00:33:09,827 Speaker 2: No, that's a good point too, Pete. And and look, 671 00:33:10,027 --> 00:33:12,227 Speaker 2: you know, for Richie Mornger even to come into the discussion, 672 00:33:12,227 --> 00:33:14,387 Speaker 2: You're right, he would have had to think to himself, Okay, 673 00:33:14,387 --> 00:33:16,547 Speaker 2: well if I do come back early, I am breaking 674 00:33:16,587 --> 00:33:19,507 Speaker 2: the contract. I remember when he signed he said, look, 675 00:33:19,587 --> 00:33:23,707 Speaker 2: I'm all in at t Sheba. You know, I really 676 00:33:23,707 --> 00:33:28,187 Speaker 2: want to have success there. And I get the feeling 677 00:33:28,267 --> 00:33:30,147 Speaker 2: he you know, all now he will he'll stay for 678 00:33:30,187 --> 00:33:31,787 Speaker 2: the three years. And as Elliott Smith said, and I 679 00:33:31,787 --> 00:33:35,147 Speaker 2: don't even thought of this, he might stay. He might say, 680 00:33:35,147 --> 00:33:36,507 Speaker 2: you know what, I've loved it so much. He give 681 00:33:36,547 --> 00:33:39,987 Speaker 2: me be another three years. The money's better. But then 682 00:33:39,987 --> 00:33:42,267 Speaker 2: there's that pull of the black jersey and winning the 683 00:33:42,347 --> 00:33:44,987 Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup, which Richie Wonga has never done good 684 00:33:45,027 --> 00:33:48,307 Speaker 2: to chat to your pete. Hello, Sean, oh my hair guard? 685 00:33:48,387 --> 00:33:52,307 Speaker 15: Good yeah, hey, yeah, Look look I agree with with 686 00:33:52,307 --> 00:33:55,907 Speaker 15: with you. Any any decision that we make has to 687 00:33:55,947 --> 00:34:00,547 Speaker 15: be for the long term good of the game, and 688 00:34:01,347 --> 00:34:07,187 Speaker 15: we can't compare All Black or all Super rugby to 689 00:34:07,187 --> 00:34:11,507 Speaker 15: to some guy was rattling on about Premier League soccer 690 00:34:11,507 --> 00:34:20,467 Speaker 15: and character and the peak of football and arguably is 691 00:34:21,107 --> 00:34:24,627 Speaker 15: possibly not a World Cup. It's your club. Your club 692 00:34:24,667 --> 00:34:28,467 Speaker 15: takes president over anything else in football. 693 00:34:28,747 --> 00:34:31,027 Speaker 2: That's Sean Sawan. You land on such a good point 694 00:34:31,027 --> 00:34:34,627 Speaker 2: because you ask any football fan in the UK whether 695 00:34:34,627 --> 00:34:36,547 Speaker 2: they would rather their team won the Premier League or 696 00:34:36,547 --> 00:34:38,707 Speaker 2: whatever league they're in, or England won the World Cup, 697 00:34:38,747 --> 00:34:41,067 Speaker 2: and they would choose the league in ninety nine times 698 00:34:41,067 --> 00:34:42,147 Speaker 2: out of one hundred. 699 00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:45,867 Speaker 15: I agree now that The other the other thing is 700 00:34:45,867 --> 00:34:49,187 Speaker 15: is that when I talk about the long term, Richie 701 00:34:50,427 --> 00:34:53,947 Speaker 15: gonna be gone in three or four or five years time, 702 00:34:54,147 --> 00:34:55,627 Speaker 15: it won't even be discussion. 703 00:34:55,747 --> 00:34:55,947 Speaker 6: Right. 704 00:34:56,467 --> 00:34:59,827 Speaker 15: So he managed to get where he got because he 705 00:34:59,947 --> 00:35:03,347 Speaker 15: played for the All Blacks. He went through a system 706 00:35:03,347 --> 00:35:10,067 Speaker 15: of Super rugby and and the All Black structure that 707 00:35:10,507 --> 00:35:13,827 Speaker 15: gave him the skills, and they don't get me wrong. 708 00:35:13,827 --> 00:35:16,347 Speaker 15: He had a very talented footballer and he is the 709 00:35:16,347 --> 00:35:22,107 Speaker 15: best verse five we've got. But he got that coverage 710 00:35:22,147 --> 00:35:24,227 Speaker 15: because he was an All Black. He wouldn't have got 711 00:35:24,307 --> 00:35:27,827 Speaker 15: that contract unless he was an All Black. We downgrade 712 00:35:27,867 --> 00:35:31,387 Speaker 15: the All Blacks, and these players should think about that 713 00:35:32,107 --> 00:35:35,947 Speaker 15: if they are going to get the big bucks, if. 714 00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:40,307 Speaker 16: They become key All Black players, they will not get 715 00:35:40,307 --> 00:35:44,587 Speaker 16: the big dollars given to them if they'll get a contract, 716 00:35:44,907 --> 00:35:45,707 Speaker 16: but they'll get. 717 00:35:45,587 --> 00:35:49,427 Speaker 15: A premium if they're in an outstanding All Black. 718 00:35:50,547 --> 00:35:52,787 Speaker 17: I'm probably going to show my age right now. 719 00:35:54,467 --> 00:35:57,267 Speaker 15: After the ninety five World Cup, Graham Baship. 720 00:35:59,227 --> 00:36:01,867 Speaker 12: Left. I think he might have gone to Japan. 721 00:36:03,307 --> 00:36:04,387 Speaker 17: He did go to Japan. 722 00:36:05,547 --> 00:36:10,827 Speaker 15: Larry May thought truth and nail to get him back, 723 00:36:11,227 --> 00:36:12,467 Speaker 15: to get him to change. 724 00:36:12,187 --> 00:36:14,067 Speaker 16: His mind, get him to come back and play for 725 00:36:14,107 --> 00:36:15,067 Speaker 16: the All Blacks. 726 00:36:15,627 --> 00:36:21,867 Speaker 15: Now they happened and he ended up with second best 727 00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:25,427 Speaker 15: Justin Marshall. Justin Marshall went on to be one of their. 728 00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:30,107 Speaker 16: Best ever All Black halfbacks and All Black captain. Just 729 00:36:30,387 --> 00:36:36,267 Speaker 16: don't ever underrate what's around the corner. We're great at 730 00:36:36,307 --> 00:36:41,467 Speaker 16: producing world class players and just I'm just gonna have 731 00:36:41,507 --> 00:36:47,307 Speaker 16: one final point is that if if. 732 00:36:47,147 --> 00:36:52,787 Speaker 15: We sorry South Africa leaving Super Rugby, there's no doubt 733 00:36:52,827 --> 00:36:54,547 Speaker 15: about it. It is stuff the tournament. 734 00:36:55,227 --> 00:36:58,707 Speaker 17: The tournament's not a patch on what. 735 00:36:58,627 --> 00:37:01,147 Speaker 15: It was, but unfortunately is nothing we can do about that. 736 00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:05,787 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean. I appreciate your call, and I mean 737 00:37:05,827 --> 00:37:07,787 Speaker 2: you're not showing your age. I mean i'd be talking 738 00:37:07,787 --> 00:37:10,547 Speaker 2: about the eighty seven World Cup. But it's a good 739 00:37:10,587 --> 00:37:13,827 Speaker 2: point you make. The other thing is diluting Super rugby. 740 00:37:14,227 --> 00:37:16,947 Speaker 2: We talk about how there's this conveyor belt, this conveyor 741 00:37:16,947 --> 00:37:19,587 Speaker 2: belt of talent coming through and yes there is. But 742 00:37:19,667 --> 00:37:22,667 Speaker 2: as soon as that conveyor belt lands in a competition 743 00:37:22,747 --> 00:37:26,587 Speaker 2: where the top forty guys are not there, then automatically 744 00:37:27,027 --> 00:37:30,667 Speaker 2: their standards aren't going to be as high as they 745 00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:33,107 Speaker 2: would have been if those guys are there. So, yes, 746 00:37:33,147 --> 00:37:35,827 Speaker 2: the conveyor belt of New Zealand talent is there, but 747 00:37:35,947 --> 00:37:40,867 Speaker 2: it feeds into a world class provincial competition. In terms 748 00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:42,627 Speaker 2: of Super rugby, I'm talking here if we can call 749 00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:46,307 Speaker 2: it a provincial competition, a franchise competition, the equal of 750 00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:49,787 Speaker 2: anything going on around the world. The top fourteen in 751 00:37:49,827 --> 00:37:53,427 Speaker 2: the Northern Hemisphere included for me, the top New Zealand 752 00:37:53,467 --> 00:37:57,387 Speaker 2: Derby's are the best franchise rugby you will find in 753 00:37:57,427 --> 00:38:03,307 Speaker 2: the world. Mark, I mate, what's on your mind? 754 00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:06,267 Speaker 17: Oh yeah, sorry, just just a very quick call, just 755 00:38:06,387 --> 00:38:08,787 Speaker 17: off for a different perspective, maybe on the Riggie situation. 756 00:38:08,907 --> 00:38:11,787 Speaker 17: Yeah please, I'm not I'm not a sportsman. They're all 757 00:38:11,867 --> 00:38:13,947 Speaker 17: not a sports person at all. It's beyond me. It'sure 758 00:38:13,947 --> 00:38:15,147 Speaker 17: why I'm even calling a sports So. 759 00:38:15,507 --> 00:38:16,987 Speaker 2: It's good to have you with us, it's good to 760 00:38:16,987 --> 00:38:17,467 Speaker 2: have you with us. 761 00:38:17,467 --> 00:38:21,107 Speaker 17: Money, it's beyond me. I couldn't even name it all 762 00:38:21,107 --> 00:38:24,587 Speaker 17: black probably, but I'm just ringing from a business point 763 00:38:24,587 --> 00:38:27,227 Speaker 17: of view. I employed ten people. People come and go 764 00:38:27,307 --> 00:38:30,787 Speaker 17: all the time. The best guy I ever employed left 765 00:38:31,187 --> 00:38:33,507 Speaker 17: I didn't go chasing him back. I focused on the 766 00:38:33,547 --> 00:38:36,787 Speaker 17: people that already had left and let someone else shine. 767 00:38:37,627 --> 00:38:39,987 Speaker 2: It's a great perspective you bring, Mark, because often there 768 00:38:39,987 --> 00:38:42,627 Speaker 2: are those parallels between sport and business, and the analogy 769 00:38:42,627 --> 00:38:45,267 Speaker 2: you make is a good one. Yeah yeah, work with 770 00:38:45,747 --> 00:38:49,027 Speaker 2: yees yeah no maybe yeah, no, it's a market It's 771 00:38:49,027 --> 00:38:50,707 Speaker 2: a really good point because the other thing you'll know 772 00:38:50,747 --> 00:38:52,707 Speaker 2: from business is if somebody you know it wants to 773 00:38:52,787 --> 00:38:54,387 Speaker 2: leave and then they come to you and say hey, Mark, 774 00:38:55,067 --> 00:38:57,147 Speaker 2: I'm going to leave, give us another ten grand. The 775 00:38:57,227 --> 00:38:58,827 Speaker 2: chances are give them the ten grand, they'll be gone 776 00:38:58,867 --> 00:39:00,667 Speaker 2: in six months anyway. So yeah, work with what you've 777 00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:01,187 Speaker 2: got then. 778 00:39:01,107 --> 00:39:04,027 Speaker 17: Yeah, you just you just ring. You just risk alienating 779 00:39:04,027 --> 00:39:07,027 Speaker 17: the people around you already. So focus on the employees, 780 00:39:07,067 --> 00:39:09,347 Speaker 17: all the players in this case that you've already got, 781 00:39:09,387 --> 00:39:09,747 Speaker 17: lead them. 782 00:39:09,787 --> 00:39:13,187 Speaker 2: Sean, I think you should Ring sports talk back more often. Mark, 783 00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:20,227 Speaker 2: good to Jette, thanks for calling, and you've brought it. 784 00:39:20,227 --> 00:39:23,387 Speaker 2: It's a great perspective, it is. The analogy is valid, 785 00:39:23,787 --> 00:39:26,907 Speaker 2: Matt High. 786 00:39:26,747 --> 00:39:30,027 Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it's just another example of Raiss sort 787 00:39:30,027 --> 00:39:33,627 Speaker 18: of disrespect in South enviarlament, like he with the whole 788 00:39:33,627 --> 00:39:36,107 Speaker 18: thing around Foster, the way he would come out and 789 00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:38,707 Speaker 18: talk about how he's going to leave and sort of 790 00:39:38,747 --> 00:39:41,427 Speaker 18: antagonize in that art to get the job. And he's 791 00:39:41,427 --> 00:39:44,347 Speaker 18: sort of done the same thing and try to Demac 792 00:39:44,427 --> 00:39:47,107 Speaker 18: and Body the same way and sort of antagonize them, 793 00:39:47,187 --> 00:39:51,307 Speaker 18: antagonizing there to try them basically into as well. 794 00:39:51,787 --> 00:39:53,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder what the conversation is going to 795 00:39:53,507 --> 00:39:55,667 Speaker 2: be when they come into All Blacks camp and whenever 796 00:39:55,707 --> 00:39:59,587 Speaker 2: it is June of this year, Biden, Baron and Damien McKenzie. 797 00:39:59,627 --> 00:40:01,747 Speaker 2: And when when Scott Robertson is talking to them about 798 00:40:01,747 --> 00:40:03,747 Speaker 2: you know how they're going to run run the team around, 799 00:40:04,187 --> 00:40:05,787 Speaker 2: don't know in the back of their minds that is 800 00:40:05,867 --> 00:40:08,067 Speaker 2: Scott rob and had his way, there'd be another bloke there. 801 00:40:08,947 --> 00:40:09,147 Speaker 7: Yeah. 802 00:40:09,147 --> 00:40:10,707 Speaker 12: And I mean if you think about Richie was nothing 803 00:40:10,827 --> 00:40:13,307 Speaker 12: sectional in the All Blacks. He was an exceptional separugby player. 804 00:40:13,467 --> 00:40:15,267 Speaker 12: But you can name a handful of games where he 805 00:40:15,267 --> 00:40:15,827 Speaker 12: stood out. 806 00:40:16,027 --> 00:40:16,467 Speaker 7: He lost. 807 00:40:16,587 --> 00:40:19,747 Speaker 12: He was at the helm of both Argentina losses. He 808 00:40:19,787 --> 00:40:21,987 Speaker 12: lost two World Cups. He lost the series in New 809 00:40:22,067 --> 00:40:25,307 Speaker 12: Zealand against Ireland. The only games I can think he 810 00:40:25,347 --> 00:40:27,867 Speaker 12: had a good quarter final against Ireland the Rugby World 811 00:40:27,907 --> 00:40:30,347 Speaker 12: Cup and he had a good game against South Africa 812 00:40:30,347 --> 00:40:32,907 Speaker 12: at m boon Bella Stadium. But other than that, I 813 00:40:32,947 --> 00:40:35,187 Speaker 12: mean he never, never shy and never stood up. Body 814 00:40:35,267 --> 00:40:38,787 Speaker 12: was a better option all along. So I think he's 815 00:40:38,787 --> 00:40:41,707 Speaker 12: no Dan Carter, He's no boat in Barratt And to 816 00:40:41,747 --> 00:40:43,867 Speaker 12: turn on your players that you have in the addressing 817 00:40:43,947 --> 00:40:47,827 Speaker 12: room to try against someone back just because he's your 818 00:40:47,827 --> 00:40:50,467 Speaker 12: best mate is about as disrespectful as. 819 00:40:50,387 --> 00:40:53,307 Speaker 2: The gets good point well made, Matt good point well made. 820 00:40:53,307 --> 00:40:55,267 Speaker 2: Thanks in Day seven away from one News Talks MB. 821 00:40:56,067 --> 00:40:58,387 Speaker 1: When sit down to the line you made the call 822 00:40:58,547 --> 00:41:03,787 Speaker 1: on eight eight Weekend Sport with Jason Hine, News Talks MB. 823 00:41:04,307 --> 00:41:06,107 Speaker 2: Four to one. Thank you for all your calls and 824 00:41:06,387 --> 00:41:08,427 Speaker 2: apologies for those who couldn't get through. Thank you for 825 00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:11,587 Speaker 2: all your text messages as well, just just a plethora 826 00:41:11,747 --> 00:41:14,587 Speaker 2: of text messages, all of which well pretty much with 827 00:41:14,707 --> 00:41:17,147 Speaker 2: that exception make good points to my apologies for not 828 00:41:17,187 --> 00:41:19,187 Speaker 2: being able to read them all out. I'm sure we'll 829 00:41:19,227 --> 00:41:22,307 Speaker 2: have this discussion again over the next little while. After 830 00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:26,587 Speaker 2: one o'clock though, an Olympic champion Hamish Kerr refocusing on 831 00:41:26,627 --> 00:41:29,467 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five now in Fongube tonight at the Cook's 832 00:41:29,467 --> 00:41:34,547 Speaker 2: Classic and ex Game champion again. Zoe Sadowski senate on 833 00:41:34,587 --> 00:41:36,027 Speaker 2: the show. 834 00:41:36,627 --> 00:41:39,547 Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on 835 00:41:39,947 --> 00:41:41,147 Speaker 1: and after fields. 836 00:41:41,627 --> 00:41:42,787 Speaker 19: It's all on wi JA. 837 00:41:42,827 --> 00:41:48,387 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport Used Talks. 838 00:41:48,227 --> 00:41:53,787 Speaker 2: MB, Yes, Gilder and welcome back or welcome in as 839 00:41:53,867 --> 00:41:56,387 Speaker 2: the case may be. This is Weekend Sport on News 840 00:41:56,427 --> 00:41:59,067 Speaker 2: Talks EDB, Jason Pine and McDonald with you until three 841 00:41:59,187 --> 00:42:02,347 Speaker 2: just gone seven past one. A lot to get through 842 00:42:02,467 --> 00:42:06,867 Speaker 2: this hour Key we Snowboarding Powerhouse Zoey Sadowski senates on 843 00:42:06,907 --> 00:42:11,067 Speaker 2: the show. She's won the women's snowboard slope Style at 844 00:42:11,107 --> 00:42:14,147 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Aspen X Games. That takes her 845 00:42:14,227 --> 00:42:19,627 Speaker 2: career total of X Games medals to eleven eleven, six 846 00:42:19,707 --> 00:42:23,227 Speaker 2: of those are gold. Zoey Sadowski senate with us inside 847 00:42:23,267 --> 00:42:26,947 Speaker 2: the next fifteen minutes to reflect on her latest success. 848 00:42:26,987 --> 00:42:29,827 Speaker 2: Also this hour Dave Worsley from the Australian Tennis Open 849 00:42:29,867 --> 00:42:33,427 Speaker 2: and Adam Peacock from across the Tasman as well. Your 850 00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:36,107 Speaker 2: calls and correspondence continue to be welcome. Oh eight one 851 00:42:36,147 --> 00:42:39,547 Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two on text 852 00:42:39,787 --> 00:42:43,387 Speaker 2: or emails to Jason at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot nz. 853 00:42:43,547 --> 00:42:46,667 Speaker 2: But we start this hour with Olympic high jump champion 854 00:42:46,747 --> 00:42:49,507 Speaker 2: Hamish Curve. He's back in action this weekend for the 855 00:42:49,507 --> 00:42:53,267 Speaker 2: first time since winning gold in Paris. Hamous kurve for 856 00:42:53,307 --> 00:42:54,427 Speaker 2: the gold medal. 857 00:42:55,667 --> 00:43:02,387 Speaker 5: Kiwi's can fly and hamous kur scales his everest and 858 00:43:02,547 --> 00:43:06,667 Speaker 5: his high jump Olympic champion and he is a way 859 00:43:06,867 --> 00:43:10,307 Speaker 5: homous Chur sprinting around this arena. 860 00:43:11,067 --> 00:43:13,627 Speaker 2: He is one of the star attractions at the historic 861 00:43:13,827 --> 00:43:17,867 Speaker 2: Cooks Classic meeting and fan Anui Paris Power Olympic Champion 862 00:43:17,907 --> 00:43:22,267 Speaker 2: sprinter and A Grimaldi also competing along with other Olympians 863 00:43:22,307 --> 00:43:26,947 Speaker 2: Sam Tanner, Lauren Bruce and Ethan Oliver Hamish Kerr is 864 00:43:26,987 --> 00:43:28,987 Speaker 2: with US Hamos. Great to get the chance to chat 865 00:43:29,027 --> 00:43:30,787 Speaker 2: to you for the first time in twenty twenty five, 866 00:43:31,227 --> 00:43:34,627 Speaker 2: and it is twenty twenty five. Now, how challenging has 867 00:43:34,627 --> 00:43:38,067 Speaker 2: it been to move on and to look forward and 868 00:43:38,387 --> 00:43:42,387 Speaker 2: refocus after the incredible twenty twenty four that you had, 869 00:43:42,427 --> 00:43:45,187 Speaker 2: including winning Olympic gold in Paris. 870 00:43:46,267 --> 00:43:49,587 Speaker 20: Yeah, it's definitely been interesting, that's for sure. I mean, 871 00:43:49,947 --> 00:43:52,587 Speaker 20: obviously in the last year was pretty special. Just been 872 00:43:52,627 --> 00:43:55,347 Speaker 20: able to celebrate and enjoy what I've done. But it's 873 00:43:55,427 --> 00:43:57,387 Speaker 20: kind of nice that there's a new number on the 874 00:43:57,427 --> 00:43:59,227 Speaker 20: air now and we can just kind of start looking forward. 875 00:43:59,227 --> 00:44:02,347 Speaker 20: But yeah, I'm super excited to jump today and get 876 00:44:02,387 --> 00:44:04,387 Speaker 20: into what should be the start of an awesome season. 877 00:44:04,627 --> 00:44:07,507 Speaker 2: When did you start training again. 878 00:44:11,267 --> 00:44:15,307 Speaker 20: Jumping wise, Probably about three weeks ago, okay, so yeah, 879 00:44:15,347 --> 00:44:17,747 Speaker 20: so it'll be interesting to see what happens, you know, 880 00:44:17,787 --> 00:44:20,107 Speaker 20: in terms of competing so quickly after that. But I've 881 00:44:20,107 --> 00:44:23,067 Speaker 20: been sort of in training since about November, just not 882 00:44:23,147 --> 00:44:25,947 Speaker 20: really seriously, and then and then sort of once once 883 00:44:25,947 --> 00:44:28,027 Speaker 20: all the Christmas New Year's stuff kind of got out 884 00:44:28,027 --> 00:44:30,107 Speaker 20: of the way, then we we've started to crack back 885 00:44:30,107 --> 00:44:32,067 Speaker 20: into it. But I mean the thing is this year 886 00:44:32,107 --> 00:44:34,827 Speaker 20: is as obviously we're looking towards September and that been 887 00:44:34,867 --> 00:44:35,627 Speaker 20: our World Champs. 888 00:44:35,667 --> 00:44:37,507 Speaker 8: So yeah, there's still a wee bit of time to come. 889 00:44:38,267 --> 00:44:40,547 Speaker 2: This is earlier, though, a lot earlier in your training 890 00:44:40,547 --> 00:44:43,267 Speaker 2: block than you would usually compete, isn't it. So why 891 00:44:43,267 --> 00:44:45,147 Speaker 2: have you decided to get Underwagh this early? 892 00:44:46,867 --> 00:44:49,387 Speaker 20: Yeah, No, it is, it is much earlier, I think. 893 00:44:49,947 --> 00:44:52,147 Speaker 20: I mean, look, we've got a great opportunity to compete 894 00:44:52,147 --> 00:44:54,347 Speaker 20: in New Zealand, and it's something that you know, I 895 00:44:54,387 --> 00:44:56,627 Speaker 20: sat down with Jimmy and my coach and we sort 896 00:44:56,627 --> 00:44:58,747 Speaker 20: of identified the fact that it is a pretty cool 897 00:44:58,747 --> 00:45:01,427 Speaker 20: opportunity now to compete in New Zealand and get out 898 00:45:01,467 --> 00:45:03,507 Speaker 20: there in front of new young crowd and give them 899 00:45:03,507 --> 00:45:05,227 Speaker 20: a good show. So I think, you know, there was 900 00:45:05,307 --> 00:45:07,987 Speaker 20: there was a bit of commitment there around around you know, 901 00:45:08,027 --> 00:45:10,747 Speaker 20: what I wanted to do domestically, but also I think 902 00:45:10,827 --> 00:45:13,347 Speaker 20: you know, these days we are in positions where we 903 00:45:13,347 --> 00:45:15,867 Speaker 20: do have to compete when we're slightly less than optimal. 904 00:45:15,947 --> 00:45:18,827 Speaker 20: So this is just another case of trying to test 905 00:45:18,867 --> 00:45:20,787 Speaker 20: that and just see how deep we can really push. 906 00:45:21,267 --> 00:45:23,427 Speaker 2: This is quite a special venue for you too, isn't 907 00:45:23,467 --> 00:45:25,267 Speaker 2: Hamish hung do we? I think you jump what tow 908 00:45:25,387 --> 00:45:27,187 Speaker 2: seventeen there in twenty seventeen? 909 00:45:27,267 --> 00:45:27,667 Speaker 7: Is that right? 910 00:45:28,587 --> 00:45:30,387 Speaker 8: Yes? Yeah I did. Yeah. 911 00:45:30,427 --> 00:45:33,627 Speaker 20: So I have had had a lovely relationship with Kott's 912 00:45:33,667 --> 00:45:36,147 Speaker 20: Gardens over the years. It's it's a meat that I've 913 00:45:36,227 --> 00:45:39,667 Speaker 20: I've really enjoyed and done quite well at in the past. 914 00:45:39,787 --> 00:45:42,187 Speaker 20: So yeah, I always love coming back and jumping in 915 00:45:42,267 --> 00:45:43,667 Speaker 20: front of the Woman Earth crowd. 916 00:45:43,987 --> 00:45:46,027 Speaker 2: So when you look ahead, I know you you know, 917 00:45:46,107 --> 00:45:49,547 Speaker 2: in a in a quest for constant improvement. Where are 918 00:45:49,547 --> 00:45:52,387 Speaker 2: you placing your focus now as you look for you know, 919 00:45:52,467 --> 00:45:56,027 Speaker 2: incremental and significant improvement over the next few months before 920 00:45:55,827 --> 00:45:57,147 Speaker 2: the World Champs. 921 00:45:57,707 --> 00:46:01,307 Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, look, there's there's always there's you can 922 00:46:01,347 --> 00:46:03,507 Speaker 20: you can improve everything, right like, I mean, there's there's 923 00:46:03,547 --> 00:46:05,907 Speaker 20: technical changes we can make, and there's there's sort of 924 00:46:05,907 --> 00:46:08,347 Speaker 20: physical changes that we can be pushing. But I think 925 00:46:08,347 --> 00:46:09,747 Speaker 20: for me, now, you know, one of the big things 926 00:46:09,787 --> 00:46:14,827 Speaker 20: that we identified post yeah, post post what was an 927 00:46:14,867 --> 00:46:17,427 Speaker 20: amazing last last season was how do we keep the 928 00:46:17,467 --> 00:46:20,627 Speaker 20: enjoyment and just be sustainable over the next probably two 929 00:46:20,787 --> 00:46:22,987 Speaker 20: two and a half years before we really crack back 930 00:46:22,987 --> 00:46:25,667 Speaker 20: into the next game. So yeah, I think, you know, 931 00:46:25,867 --> 00:46:28,027 Speaker 20: the big focus now is actually just about enjoying it 932 00:46:28,107 --> 00:46:31,867 Speaker 20: and you know, not being too too deeply focused around 933 00:46:31,907 --> 00:46:34,107 Speaker 20: what we're trying to do to get better. Obviously that's 934 00:46:34,147 --> 00:46:36,627 Speaker 20: the team's job, and you know, the coaching setups job, 935 00:46:36,707 --> 00:46:38,907 Speaker 20: but for me, like I'm just I'm just happy to 936 00:46:38,907 --> 00:46:41,627 Speaker 20: be back and just enjoying it. So I suppose for 937 00:46:41,667 --> 00:46:43,787 Speaker 20: me that's that's the next few months is just trying 938 00:46:43,787 --> 00:46:46,587 Speaker 20: to get through and be as positive as possible about it. 939 00:46:46,627 --> 00:46:49,227 Speaker 2: So that strikes me as a really interesting balance to strike. 940 00:46:49,467 --> 00:46:51,587 Speaker 2: To say, have a lot more fun. Yeah that sounds 941 00:46:51,627 --> 00:46:54,707 Speaker 2: like fun, but yeah, you're able also to keep laser 942 00:46:54,747 --> 00:47:00,067 Speaker 2: focused on the things that that will help you to improve. Yeah, 943 00:47:00,347 --> 00:47:01,347 Speaker 2: I mean, I. 944 00:47:01,307 --> 00:47:03,587 Speaker 20: Mean yeah, Like I mean, as I sort of indicated 945 00:47:04,027 --> 00:47:05,547 Speaker 20: the team that I've got around me and the people 946 00:47:05,587 --> 00:47:08,547 Speaker 20: that making those hard decisions around what I'm actually doing 947 00:47:08,547 --> 00:47:11,627 Speaker 20: it training the ore, the ones who are who are 948 00:47:11,827 --> 00:47:14,787 Speaker 20: you know, continually making sure that I am producing as 949 00:47:14,827 --> 00:47:17,027 Speaker 20: an athlete, and then that sort of means that when 950 00:47:17,067 --> 00:47:18,627 Speaker 20: I get to turn up to training, I get to 951 00:47:18,667 --> 00:47:20,387 Speaker 20: enjoy it a wee bit more and just sort of 952 00:47:20,387 --> 00:47:22,587 Speaker 20: take each session as it comes. But yeah, I think 953 00:47:22,627 --> 00:47:24,627 Speaker 20: it is about trying to learn that balance of what 954 00:47:24,787 --> 00:47:27,987 Speaker 20: is fun and also for me, you know, I am 955 00:47:27,987 --> 00:47:31,347 Speaker 20: an e leite athlete, getting better is fun and so 956 00:47:31,507 --> 00:47:34,707 Speaker 20: you know, at a point where you know, now I'm 957 00:47:34,707 --> 00:47:36,827 Speaker 20: starting to take it a bit more seriously, I actually 958 00:47:36,867 --> 00:47:38,347 Speaker 20: do find a lot of enjoyment in that as well. 959 00:47:38,427 --> 00:47:39,947 Speaker 20: So yeah, I think I think they go hand in 960 00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:41,067 Speaker 20: hand quite nicely. 961 00:47:41,147 --> 00:47:45,267 Speaker 2: So the World Outdoor Champs Tokyo September, you must you 962 00:47:45,347 --> 00:47:47,707 Speaker 2: must feel as though you're a real shot, do you 963 00:47:47,827 --> 00:47:49,427 Speaker 2: at winning gold there? 964 00:47:50,507 --> 00:47:51,067 Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely. 965 00:47:51,107 --> 00:47:53,147 Speaker 20: I mean that's the focus, right is to try and 966 00:47:53,307 --> 00:47:57,507 Speaker 20: try and tick off that final big global global title, 967 00:47:57,747 --> 00:47:59,627 Speaker 20: which is the one that I don't have. So yeah, 968 00:47:59,667 --> 00:48:01,747 Speaker 20: I do think that I'm capable of doing it. But 969 00:48:01,827 --> 00:48:04,707 Speaker 20: at the same time, you know, like like I've said 970 00:48:04,747 --> 00:48:07,267 Speaker 20: time and time again, there's some some pretty talented guys 971 00:48:07,467 --> 00:48:08,907 Speaker 20: in the field of high jump at the moment, and 972 00:48:08,947 --> 00:48:11,187 Speaker 20: so you know, for me, it's about doing as much 973 00:48:11,227 --> 00:48:13,187 Speaker 20: as I can, but knowing those boys will also be 974 00:48:13,227 --> 00:48:15,907 Speaker 20: doing all they can to you know, push me off 975 00:48:15,907 --> 00:48:16,547 Speaker 20: that top spot. 976 00:48:16,987 --> 00:48:19,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, well sort of meddleist from Paris Shelby mcew. And 977 00:48:19,547 --> 00:48:21,787 Speaker 2: he's only twenty eight, same age as you, so presumably 978 00:48:21,827 --> 00:48:24,227 Speaker 2: he'll go around again. What about Mutas Bashem and gian 979 00:48:24,307 --> 00:48:27,907 Speaker 2: Marco tam Barry are they I think barshe might have retired. 980 00:48:27,907 --> 00:48:28,987 Speaker 2: He's tam Bury retired. 981 00:48:29,747 --> 00:48:30,587 Speaker 8: You'd have to ask. 982 00:48:30,467 --> 00:48:33,867 Speaker 2: Them, Ah, what are you hearing? 983 00:48:34,867 --> 00:48:35,067 Speaker 8: Mate? 984 00:48:35,067 --> 00:48:38,267 Speaker 20: Honestly, you hear everything. You hear everything on on tour. 985 00:48:38,347 --> 00:48:40,947 Speaker 20: It's you know, I mean, I'm pretty sure Barshan was 986 00:48:40,947 --> 00:48:44,387 Speaker 20: supposed to retire about five years ago, and Dan Barry's 987 00:48:44,427 --> 00:48:46,307 Speaker 20: sort of you know, had his last season about three 988 00:48:46,307 --> 00:48:48,867 Speaker 20: seasons in a row. So honestly, mate, like, I mean, 989 00:48:48,907 --> 00:48:51,587 Speaker 20: I'm expecting them to be there. I think that they both, 990 00:48:51,707 --> 00:48:53,187 Speaker 20: you know, have so much more they can give to 991 00:48:53,187 --> 00:48:55,667 Speaker 20: the sport, and they both I think the fact that 992 00:48:55,667 --> 00:48:57,267 Speaker 20: they both didn't win the games. 993 00:48:58,347 --> 00:49:00,067 Speaker 8: Yeah, really really kind of changed it. 994 00:49:00,107 --> 00:49:02,467 Speaker 20: I had a feeling that if either one of them 995 00:49:02,507 --> 00:49:05,867 Speaker 20: got gold last year they would have retired, but unfortunately 996 00:49:05,907 --> 00:49:07,467 Speaker 20: I had to go and put a scanner on networks 997 00:49:07,827 --> 00:49:09,707 Speaker 20: and yeah, I think I think they'll be. 998 00:49:09,667 --> 00:49:13,107 Speaker 2: Back, although, yeah, you've elongated their careers and other words, 999 00:49:13,147 --> 00:49:14,147 Speaker 2: which I think is a good thing. 1000 00:49:14,347 --> 00:49:17,747 Speaker 8: So, you know, I aim to continue to elongate their careers. 1001 00:49:17,947 --> 00:49:20,627 Speaker 2: Excellent stuff. So are you already sort of starting you 1002 00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:22,667 Speaker 2: mentioned before about the you know, over the next couple 1003 00:49:22,707 --> 00:49:24,747 Speaker 2: of years two and a half years. Are you already though, 1004 00:49:24,787 --> 00:49:27,707 Speaker 2: plotting your path to Los Angeles in twenty twenty eight. 1005 00:49:29,067 --> 00:49:31,147 Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean we've had conversations around it, for sure. 1006 00:49:31,667 --> 00:49:33,147 Speaker 20: I know, I know that I'm going to be there, 1007 00:49:33,187 --> 00:49:35,667 Speaker 20: and I know that the goal is definitely to defend 1008 00:49:35,707 --> 00:49:40,187 Speaker 20: and potentially jumping on record which is two forty's that's 1009 00:49:40,227 --> 00:49:42,347 Speaker 20: sort of the goal to sort of get us going 1010 00:49:42,347 --> 00:49:45,387 Speaker 20: for the next four years. But yeah, it's it's you know, 1011 00:49:45,387 --> 00:49:47,547 Speaker 20: it's one thing putting that gold down and another thing 1012 00:49:47,547 --> 00:49:48,947 Speaker 20: actually working out how we're going to get there, And 1013 00:49:48,987 --> 00:49:51,347 Speaker 20: I think that's probably where we're trying to focus our 1014 00:49:51,387 --> 00:49:53,827 Speaker 20: energies and at the moment as understanding how we can 1015 00:49:53,867 --> 00:49:54,507 Speaker 20: actually achieve that. 1016 00:49:54,787 --> 00:49:57,987 Speaker 2: How many people directon have seen and touched your gold 1017 00:49:58,027 --> 00:49:58,947 Speaker 2: medal in the last. 1018 00:49:58,827 --> 00:50:03,587 Speaker 20: Few months, oh thousands, brilliant. Yeah, it's been great, Honestly, 1019 00:50:03,627 --> 00:50:06,907 Speaker 20: it's been awesome. I've really you know, I've had the 1020 00:50:06,947 --> 00:50:11,147 Speaker 20: amazing privilege to take around schools and businesses and into 1021 00:50:11,187 --> 00:50:13,907 Speaker 20: various events, and it's pretty cool to see just the 1022 00:50:14,107 --> 00:50:15,627 Speaker 20: lock on people's faces when they see it for the 1023 00:50:15,627 --> 00:50:18,227 Speaker 20: first time. So yeah, I encourage you and if they 1024 00:50:18,267 --> 00:50:20,187 Speaker 20: see me around to try and get me to drag 1025 00:50:20,227 --> 00:50:22,707 Speaker 20: it out. I'm not bringing it out as much anymore, 1026 00:50:23,147 --> 00:50:25,587 Speaker 20: but yeah, it's a pretty special thing to have, that's 1027 00:50:25,587 --> 00:50:25,947 Speaker 20: for sure. 1028 00:50:26,027 --> 00:50:29,507 Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. Well look brilliant twenty twenty four. Hope 1029 00:50:29,507 --> 00:50:31,867 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five is just as good for your Hamish 1030 00:50:31,867 --> 00:50:33,547 Speaker 2: good the chat is always all the best in Fongenobi. 1031 00:50:33,947 --> 00:50:35,467 Speaker 8: Awesome mate, Thanks hates no. 1032 00:50:35,507 --> 00:50:38,307 Speaker 2: Thank you, Hamish. Hamish kur there Olympic high jump champion, 1033 00:50:38,467 --> 00:50:42,467 Speaker 2: back into it this evening at the Cooks Classic in Fonganubi, 1034 00:50:42,467 --> 00:50:46,827 Speaker 2: fairly iconic track and field event. Great to see Hamish 1035 00:50:46,907 --> 00:50:49,387 Speaker 2: Kerr there along with a couple of other Olympians, Sam 1036 00:50:49,427 --> 00:50:53,227 Speaker 2: Tana and a Grimaldy Paralympic two hundred meters champion. She'll 1037 00:50:53,267 --> 00:50:56,227 Speaker 2: be running tonight as well. I believe this is all 1038 00:50:56,267 --> 00:51:01,427 Speaker 2: live streamed on Athletics New Zealand's YouTube channel. It actually 1039 00:51:01,467 --> 00:51:03,987 Speaker 2: starts at four o'clock this afternoon, but the main action 1040 00:51:04,107 --> 00:51:06,907 Speaker 2: is from around about seven o'clock. But if you go 1041 00:51:06,987 --> 00:51:10,187 Speaker 2: to the Athletics New Zealand website which is Athletics dot 1042 00:51:10,267 --> 00:51:13,507 Speaker 2: org dot n Z, the program is there and all 1043 00:51:13,507 --> 00:51:16,307 Speaker 2: the details on how to live stream it on their 1044 00:51:16,427 --> 00:51:19,507 Speaker 2: YouTube channel. On text, Shawn says, I never thought I'd 1045 00:51:19,587 --> 00:51:22,507 Speaker 2: see a New Zealander win an Olympic high jump gold. 1046 00:51:22,907 --> 00:51:26,187 Speaker 2: Just amazing and an example that anything is possible from 1047 00:51:26,227 --> 00:51:29,587 Speaker 2: our rocking little country. Yeah. Still I think my favorite 1048 00:51:29,587 --> 00:51:32,427 Speaker 2: moment of twenty twenty four. There was a lot of 1049 00:51:32,707 --> 00:51:35,067 Speaker 2: a lot of great sport last year, but I still 1050 00:51:35,067 --> 00:51:39,387 Speaker 2: think hamous Kurz high jump gold medal tops them all. 1051 00:51:39,467 --> 00:51:42,787 Speaker 2: For me, that was the sporting moment of twenty twenty four. 1052 00:51:42,987 --> 00:51:48,347 Speaker 2: One seventeen Weekend Sport speaking of amazing from this rocking 1053 00:51:48,427 --> 00:51:53,707 Speaker 2: little country. Kiwe snowboarding powerhouse Zoey Sadowski Senate has won 1054 00:51:53,747 --> 00:51:57,467 Speaker 2: the women's snowboard Slope Style at the twenty twenty five 1055 00:51:57,587 --> 00:51:59,027 Speaker 2: Aspen X Games, and. 1056 00:51:59,147 --> 00:52:04,787 Speaker 3: With that, Zoey Sadowski Sitate is guaranteed her sixth career 1057 00:52:05,227 --> 00:52:06,227 Speaker 3: X Games Goldman. 1058 00:52:06,547 --> 00:52:09,707 Speaker 2: She posted a score of ninety four point six six 1059 00:52:09,867 --> 00:52:12,947 Speaker 2: in her first run, including a little bit of history. 1060 00:52:12,747 --> 00:52:14,027 Speaker 21: Going for that BACSA fourteen. 1061 00:52:16,067 --> 00:52:17,747 Speaker 2: Yes, let's go. 1062 00:52:18,267 --> 00:52:22,667 Speaker 3: The first ever triple cork in women's slip style competition. 1063 00:52:22,947 --> 00:52:24,907 Speaker 1: You just watch history, folks. 1064 00:52:25,027 --> 00:52:28,907 Speaker 2: Incredible. It takes her career total X Games medal counts 1065 00:52:29,147 --> 00:52:34,107 Speaker 2: to eleven. Eleven X Games medals, six of them are gold. 1066 00:52:34,347 --> 00:52:38,987 Speaker 2: Zoe Sadowski Senate is with us out of Aspen. Zoe, congratulations. 1067 00:52:38,987 --> 00:52:41,187 Speaker 2: How do you reflect on what happened a few hours ago? 1068 00:52:42,667 --> 00:52:47,107 Speaker 22: Hi? Yeah, honestly, I can't really believe that I put 1069 00:52:47,147 --> 00:52:50,907 Speaker 22: down a run that I didn't even think was possible 1070 00:52:50,947 --> 00:52:55,147 Speaker 22: when I would ever do. And so to come back 1071 00:52:55,187 --> 00:52:58,147 Speaker 22: after an injury that put me out last year and 1072 00:52:58,267 --> 00:53:00,907 Speaker 22: come back to do that run and when gold, it 1073 00:53:00,987 --> 00:53:01,787 Speaker 22: means everything to me. 1074 00:53:02,187 --> 00:53:05,467 Speaker 2: So the run you're talking about the world's first triple 1075 00:53:05,667 --> 00:53:08,987 Speaker 2: cork in a women's slopestyle competition, First of all, you're 1076 00:53:09,027 --> 00:53:10,307 Speaker 2: going to have to tell us what that is. 1077 00:53:12,307 --> 00:53:20,107 Speaker 22: Yeah, a trifle cork is It's a slowwhat trick? That's 1078 00:53:20,147 --> 00:53:27,267 Speaker 22: four full rotations and you are flipping three times. And 1079 00:53:27,307 --> 00:53:31,707 Speaker 22: when we say cork, it's because it's off axis in 1080 00:53:31,787 --> 00:53:35,547 Speaker 22: those four full rotations, the fourteen forty part and those 1081 00:53:35,747 --> 00:53:39,347 Speaker 22: three flips kind of men together, and it's a really 1082 00:53:40,427 --> 00:53:43,507 Speaker 22: it's a really committing trick and quite a high consequence. 1083 00:53:43,547 --> 00:53:49,467 Speaker 22: So it's been absolutely terrifying to learn and then put 1084 00:53:49,507 --> 00:53:52,667 Speaker 22: it down on snow, and then now putting it into 1085 00:53:52,667 --> 00:53:55,187 Speaker 22: a competition just feels insane. 1086 00:53:55,987 --> 00:53:58,467 Speaker 2: I mean just even hearing you talk about it. So 1087 00:53:58,667 --> 00:54:01,427 Speaker 2: you've put it down in training. So was it always 1088 00:54:01,467 --> 00:54:03,507 Speaker 2: the aim to try and put it down here? 1089 00:54:05,427 --> 00:54:06,187 Speaker 1: No, not at all. 1090 00:54:06,387 --> 00:54:12,267 Speaker 22: Honestly, I've done it in training once before, and coming 1091 00:54:12,307 --> 00:54:14,787 Speaker 22: into X Games, I just wanted to do it in 1092 00:54:14,827 --> 00:54:18,547 Speaker 22: the big air last night, and even to do it there, 1093 00:54:18,627 --> 00:54:24,507 Speaker 22: I was so nervous to the point where I, yeah, 1094 00:54:24,507 --> 00:54:27,267 Speaker 22: it had been so long since I'd been at X Games, 1095 00:54:27,307 --> 00:54:29,427 Speaker 22: and I just knew that I had to do it, 1096 00:54:29,427 --> 00:54:32,387 Speaker 22: and I ended up doing a couple of them in 1097 00:54:32,427 --> 00:54:36,187 Speaker 22: the competition. So then the big air jump is the 1098 00:54:36,227 --> 00:54:39,067 Speaker 22: same jump as the last jump in the folk style course. 1099 00:54:39,147 --> 00:54:42,107 Speaker 22: So after doing that last night, coming into today, I 1100 00:54:42,187 --> 00:54:45,987 Speaker 22: knew that I kind of had the only option was 1101 00:54:46,067 --> 00:54:48,947 Speaker 22: to go for it and try and put down this 1102 00:54:49,067 --> 00:54:53,707 Speaker 22: run that honestly seemed impossible to me a week ago. 1103 00:54:53,987 --> 00:54:57,067 Speaker 2: Well, you might be the impossible possible. You committed to 1104 00:54:57,107 --> 00:54:59,947 Speaker 2: it you landed. What are the emotions when you land it? 1105 00:55:02,187 --> 00:55:07,707 Speaker 22: Honestly, I wanted to cry after such a scary trick 1106 00:55:07,987 --> 00:55:14,227 Speaker 22: and after landing my whole run before it, and coming 1107 00:55:14,267 --> 00:55:18,267 Speaker 22: into that last time knowing that I could go for 1108 00:55:18,347 --> 00:55:20,827 Speaker 22: a ten to eighty, take a step back and then 1109 00:55:21,467 --> 00:55:26,707 Speaker 22: and not do the fourteen forty like then, to tell 1110 00:55:26,747 --> 00:55:29,747 Speaker 22: myself that I could do it, and to actually be 1111 00:55:29,787 --> 00:55:33,427 Speaker 22: able to put it down when it counted, Yeah, emotions 1112 00:55:33,427 --> 00:55:37,507 Speaker 22: were definitely running high and it felt it felt insane. 1113 00:55:37,787 --> 00:55:41,747 Speaker 2: That is remarkable self talk to yourself to tell yourself 1114 00:55:41,787 --> 00:55:44,267 Speaker 2: to do it like that. Is that something that you've 1115 00:55:44,267 --> 00:55:47,147 Speaker 2: developed over time, the courage to have that sort of 1116 00:55:47,187 --> 00:55:49,347 Speaker 2: self talk and follow through with it. 1117 00:55:50,747 --> 00:55:53,467 Speaker 22: Yeah, definitely, I use a lot of self talk when 1118 00:55:53,507 --> 00:56:00,187 Speaker 22: I'm snowboarding. It's sow warning is such a confidence fueled 1119 00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:05,227 Speaker 22: sport and it's all about scaring yourself and to have 1120 00:56:06,387 --> 00:56:08,427 Speaker 22: that little voice in the back of your head just 1121 00:56:08,467 --> 00:56:12,947 Speaker 22: telling you to just go for it and do everything 1122 00:56:12,947 --> 00:56:15,947 Speaker 22: you possibly can to make it work is It's so important. 1123 00:56:15,987 --> 00:56:20,307 Speaker 22: And I had that in my head today and yeah, 1124 00:56:20,387 --> 00:56:24,627 Speaker 22: it's definitely taken a long time to trust that voice, 1125 00:56:24,667 --> 00:56:27,707 Speaker 22: but yeah, I'm just so stoked. 1126 00:56:27,947 --> 00:56:31,267 Speaker 2: It's just remarkable what you're doing now. Eleven X Games 1127 00:56:31,307 --> 00:56:34,867 Speaker 2: medals now six of them gold. Is it commonplace now 1128 00:56:34,987 --> 00:56:37,787 Speaker 2: or is it still a buzz for you? 1129 00:56:37,867 --> 00:56:41,347 Speaker 22: No? Honestly, after my injury, I wasn't really sure if 1130 00:56:41,387 --> 00:56:45,307 Speaker 22: I'd ever get back to this level with the pace 1131 00:56:45,467 --> 00:56:48,147 Speaker 22: that my sport progresses. 1132 00:56:47,747 --> 00:56:48,147 Speaker 5: And. 1133 00:56:49,667 --> 00:56:51,547 Speaker 22: Like I didn't even I didn't even know if I 1134 00:56:51,547 --> 00:56:54,667 Speaker 22: would win any medals this week. So to be here 1135 00:56:56,467 --> 00:57:00,307 Speaker 22: with gold is just it means everything. 1136 00:57:00,867 --> 00:57:02,507 Speaker 2: And you talked about your injury a couple of times. 1137 00:57:02,507 --> 00:57:04,747 Speaker 2: That was an ankle injury, right, So how you know 1138 00:57:04,787 --> 00:57:06,507 Speaker 2: how challenging was the recovery from that. 1139 00:57:08,067 --> 00:57:11,867 Speaker 22: Yeah, I injured my ankle in December twenty twenty three, 1140 00:57:11,987 --> 00:57:16,627 Speaker 22: and initially it was it was only meant to be 1141 00:57:16,667 --> 00:57:18,907 Speaker 22: six weeks, but when I got back on my board, 1142 00:57:20,467 --> 00:57:22,867 Speaker 22: I was just still in so much pain and it 1143 00:57:22,947 --> 00:57:26,107 Speaker 22: wasn't healing as fast as expected. And that was kind 1144 00:57:26,187 --> 00:57:30,987 Speaker 22: of the story throughout the whole rehab and really that 1145 00:57:31,187 --> 00:57:34,227 Speaker 22: last year, like it was taking longer, it was more 1146 00:57:34,267 --> 00:57:38,627 Speaker 22: painful than it should have been. And yeah, when I 1147 00:57:39,107 --> 00:57:42,707 Speaker 22: was six months down the road, I got a steroid 1148 00:57:42,707 --> 00:57:47,307 Speaker 22: injection in it and slowed down. I stayed home in 1149 00:57:47,347 --> 00:57:49,867 Speaker 22: New Zealand, down in Monaca, and I focused on the 1150 00:57:49,907 --> 00:57:53,427 Speaker 22: rehab and making sure that I got back to one hundred. 1151 00:57:53,427 --> 00:57:57,067 Speaker 22: And when I did, I was part of the progression, 1152 00:57:57,187 --> 00:58:01,787 Speaker 22: not just playing catch up. And yeah, it was definitely 1153 00:58:01,987 --> 00:58:06,747 Speaker 22: mentally and physically challenging, but yeah, I kind of I 1154 00:58:06,787 --> 00:58:10,147 Speaker 22: kind of owe it all to the crew that I 1155 00:58:10,267 --> 00:58:14,987 Speaker 22: have around me, my sponsor's team, my coach, family and 1156 00:58:15,027 --> 00:58:17,827 Speaker 22: friends that have helped me third and help me come back. 1157 00:58:18,147 --> 00:58:20,267 Speaker 2: Into you as well, I mean it says a lot 1158 00:58:20,307 --> 00:58:22,747 Speaker 2: about you as well as Oe. So what's next? Now 1159 00:58:22,787 --> 00:58:24,187 Speaker 2: you can, you can chill out for a bit, But 1160 00:58:24,267 --> 00:58:25,067 Speaker 2: what's next? 1161 00:58:25,987 --> 00:58:29,747 Speaker 22: Yeah, I've got a couple of days before I have 1162 00:58:30,067 --> 00:58:33,307 Speaker 22: a World Cup Slope style and a World Cup Big 1163 00:58:33,307 --> 00:58:38,867 Speaker 22: Air again here in Ascent, and yeah, I'm looking forward 1164 00:58:38,907 --> 00:58:41,107 Speaker 22: to those ones that will be on the same course 1165 00:58:41,147 --> 00:58:44,107 Speaker 22: as X Games. I'm pretty sure. So yeah, just try 1166 00:58:44,147 --> 00:58:49,067 Speaker 22: and just keep the ball rolling and yeah, just snow. 1167 00:58:48,867 --> 00:58:49,827 Speaker 8: Warn good on you. 1168 00:58:50,067 --> 00:58:51,947 Speaker 2: Have you have you watched your your run back? Have 1169 00:58:52,027 --> 00:58:53,627 Speaker 2: you watched it back? Do you watch it back? 1170 00:58:55,067 --> 00:58:55,267 Speaker 14: Yeah? 1171 00:58:55,267 --> 00:58:56,267 Speaker 22: I do watch it back. 1172 00:58:56,947 --> 00:58:59,427 Speaker 2: I'll be watching it. I'll be watching it twenty five times. 1173 00:59:00,587 --> 00:59:04,267 Speaker 22: Yeah, I look at it in disbelief that that actually happened. 1174 00:59:04,307 --> 00:59:05,347 Speaker 22: I kind of blacked out. 1175 00:59:08,387 --> 00:59:11,867 Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing, Zoe, what you've done. Everybody back here absolutely delighted. 1176 00:59:11,907 --> 00:59:15,107 Speaker 2: Congratulations on another X Game's gold medal. Thanks for having 1177 00:59:15,147 --> 00:59:15,747 Speaker 2: a chat to us. 1178 00:59:16,027 --> 00:59:17,867 Speaker 19: Hey, thank you so much, No, thank you. 1179 00:59:17,867 --> 00:59:18,347 Speaker 2: For joining us. 1180 00:59:18,387 --> 00:59:18,627 Speaker 7: Zoe. 1181 00:59:19,027 --> 00:59:24,427 Speaker 2: Congratulations again. Zoey Sadowski Senate, who's won the women's snowboard 1182 00:59:24,467 --> 00:59:27,867 Speaker 2: Slope Style at the twenty twenty five Aspen X Games, 1183 00:59:27,867 --> 00:59:32,427 Speaker 2: her eleventh X Games medal, six of those gold, and 1184 00:59:32,467 --> 00:59:35,067 Speaker 2: it wasn't the only key we success. Heck of an 1185 00:59:35,187 --> 00:59:38,787 Speaker 2: X Game's debut for young Kiwi Luca Harrington, twenty year 1186 00:59:38,787 --> 00:59:42,587 Speaker 2: old free skier. He's won the men's slope Style in 1187 00:59:42,707 --> 00:59:46,987 Speaker 2: Aspen after only initially being named as an alternate. So 1188 00:59:47,027 --> 00:59:49,187 Speaker 2: we're going to try and get Luka Harrington on the 1189 00:59:49,227 --> 00:59:51,187 Speaker 2: radio tomorrow to find a bit more about this guy. 1190 00:59:52,067 --> 00:59:55,187 Speaker 2: We know all about Zoe Sadowski Senate and her legend 1191 00:59:55,267 --> 00:59:57,867 Speaker 2: continues to grow, but looka Harrington, we don't know as 1192 00:59:57,947 --> 00:59:59,427 Speaker 2: much about him. So we'll try and get him on 1193 00:59:59,427 --> 01:00:02,987 Speaker 2: the radio for you tomorrow, one twenty five. Let's take 1194 01:00:02,987 --> 01:00:04,507 Speaker 2: a break when we come back on News Talks hereb 1195 01:00:04,547 --> 01:00:07,827 Speaker 2: and weekend sport at the Aussie Open. Our finalists confirmed 1196 01:00:07,827 --> 01:00:11,307 Speaker 2: in the men's and women's singles. Dave Worsley going to 1197 01:00:11,387 --> 01:00:13,587 Speaker 2: preview those finals for us when we come back. 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I think this is it, this is it 1221 01:01:36,627 --> 01:01:44,707 Speaker 2: against It's over and it is a stunned rod Laver Arena. Yeah, 1222 01:01:44,747 --> 01:01:47,227 Speaker 2: the twenty four time major winer walking off rod Laver 1223 01:01:47,347 --> 01:01:50,067 Speaker 2: Arena with an injured leg after losing the opening set 1224 01:01:50,187 --> 01:01:54,187 Speaker 2: against German second seed Alexander Zverev and a tie breaks. 1225 01:01:54,227 --> 01:01:57,987 Speaker 2: Verev will face top seed and defending champion Yannick Sinner 1226 01:01:58,147 --> 01:02:01,947 Speaker 2: in tomorrow night's final after he dispatched Ben Shelton in 1227 01:02:01,987 --> 01:02:04,427 Speaker 2: straight sets games. 1228 01:02:06,747 --> 01:02:08,427 Speaker 23: It will be a third major. 1229 01:02:10,707 --> 01:02:17,987 Speaker 24: Sixteen your attempt to defend his title in sashiasvillef He 1230 01:02:18,227 --> 01:02:24,427 Speaker 24: maximized the moments today against Benshouting and found a way 1231 01:02:24,547 --> 01:02:25,507 Speaker 24: to operate. 1232 01:02:25,627 --> 01:02:29,027 Speaker 2: Champions still, so the top two seeds in the men's 1233 01:02:29,187 --> 01:02:32,187 Speaker 2: final and the women's final tonight. It is Arena Sablenka, 1234 01:02:32,187 --> 01:02:35,467 Speaker 2: two time defending champion, against the American Madison Keys. Let's 1235 01:02:35,467 --> 01:02:40,227 Speaker 2: bring in longtime tennis correspondent Dave Worsley, who's at his 1236 01:02:40,387 --> 01:02:42,987 Speaker 2: empteenth Australian Open. You might even be able to tell 1237 01:02:43,027 --> 01:02:45,107 Speaker 2: us how many you have been to Dave. What number 1238 01:02:45,147 --> 01:02:46,547 Speaker 2: is this? 1239 01:02:46,547 --> 01:02:49,027 Speaker 7: This is twenty six, so it makes me pretty old. 1240 01:02:49,067 --> 01:02:52,587 Speaker 2: I guess well, I'll tell you what. It's a it's 1241 01:02:52,627 --> 01:02:57,507 Speaker 2: a terrific, terrific run. Now, the crowd were booing Novak 1242 01:02:57,587 --> 01:03:00,667 Speaker 2: Djokovic after he retired, hurt. What's going on there? 1243 01:03:01,747 --> 01:03:03,907 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting the crowd this year, it seems to 1244 01:03:03,907 --> 01:03:07,627 Speaker 7: have got more feral. Certainly for the early matches with 1245 01:03:07,667 --> 01:03:11,267 Speaker 7: a lot of Australian players, they were got pretty raucous 1246 01:03:11,267 --> 01:03:13,667 Speaker 7: and pretty fair in many ways, whereas say the French 1247 01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:16,307 Speaker 7: crowd when the French players were playing, they were fair, 1248 01:03:16,347 --> 01:03:20,707 Speaker 7: the Brazilians, et cetera. But the Aussie crowds certainly were well. 1249 01:03:21,027 --> 01:03:23,627 Speaker 7: They weren't great in the first week and now in 1250 01:03:23,667 --> 01:03:25,387 Speaker 7: the second week as we got to witness in the 1251 01:03:25,387 --> 01:03:29,187 Speaker 7: semi finals last night. See, I don't know, maybe they 1252 01:03:29,387 --> 01:03:32,427 Speaker 7: just really wanted more tennis for their money that they're paid. 1253 01:03:32,467 --> 01:03:35,027 Speaker 7: But yeah, that was a bit off. You could tell that. 1254 01:03:35,187 --> 01:03:36,707 Speaker 7: You know, he wasn't just pulling out for the fun 1255 01:03:36,747 --> 01:03:38,667 Speaker 7: of it. He's not that sort of person. He's won 1256 01:03:38,707 --> 01:03:42,827 Speaker 7: it ten times and as Zadev said afterwards on court, 1257 01:03:42,827 --> 01:03:45,707 Speaker 7: you know, show a little bit of respect. He's twenty 1258 01:03:45,707 --> 01:03:48,347 Speaker 7: four time champion, ten times at the Australian Open, and 1259 01:03:48,387 --> 01:03:50,507 Speaker 7: he's pulled out with an injury, not because he didn't 1260 01:03:50,507 --> 01:03:51,147 Speaker 7: feel like playing. 1261 01:03:51,667 --> 01:03:54,347 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly it. He's played there injured before, 1262 01:03:54,427 --> 01:03:57,707 Speaker 2: hasn't he. He's gone quite deep with injury before. So 1263 01:03:58,547 --> 01:04:00,947 Speaker 2: I think you're probably right, David's people having paid you 1264 01:04:01,187 --> 01:04:03,987 Speaker 2: money for their tickets and wanting, you know, a five 1265 01:04:04,067 --> 01:04:07,907 Speaker 2: setter or at least a three setter. Any Why what 1266 01:04:08,067 --> 01:04:11,147 Speaker 2: was Djokovic's demeanor like afterwards? 1267 01:04:11,547 --> 01:04:13,187 Speaker 7: Well, in the press conference, he made a couple of 1268 01:04:13,187 --> 01:04:14,947 Speaker 7: good points. He said, well, you know, okay, there was 1269 01:04:14,947 --> 01:04:18,547 Speaker 7: some billing, but he said, I understand that those people 1270 01:04:18,667 --> 01:04:20,427 Speaker 7: paid a lot of money and wanted more tennis, and 1271 01:04:20,467 --> 01:04:23,147 Speaker 7: they always want more tennis. They don't want a three, 1272 01:04:23,187 --> 01:04:24,587 Speaker 7: said that they want a five, and even when it 1273 01:04:24,587 --> 01:04:26,987 Speaker 7: goes five, they wanted to keep on going, but you know, 1274 01:04:27,067 --> 01:04:28,627 Speaker 7: that's just one of those things. He said, Look, I 1275 01:04:28,667 --> 01:04:32,027 Speaker 7: couldn't play anymore. And he was asked, well, what about 1276 01:04:32,027 --> 01:04:33,707 Speaker 7: if you had won that first set, would you have 1277 01:04:33,707 --> 01:04:35,707 Speaker 7: been able to keep going? Would it sort of kept 1278 01:04:35,707 --> 01:04:38,347 Speaker 7: you going a bit more? He said, no, not really. 1279 01:04:38,387 --> 01:04:40,707 Speaker 7: He said, you know, maybe I could have, but yeah, 1280 01:04:40,787 --> 01:04:43,347 Speaker 7: I wouldn't have lasted that much longer, he said, had 1281 01:04:43,347 --> 01:04:45,347 Speaker 7: an injury. We all saw it in the previous match 1282 01:04:45,347 --> 01:04:47,827 Speaker 7: against Carlos Alcarez. He was struggling a little bit then 1283 01:04:47,867 --> 01:04:50,627 Speaker 7: and managed to come through a great battle there, but 1284 01:04:50,747 --> 01:04:53,267 Speaker 7: this time he just said, well, I don't know if 1285 01:04:53,267 --> 01:04:54,867 Speaker 7: I'll be back either. He was asked if he had 1286 01:04:54,907 --> 01:04:56,747 Speaker 7: come back again, is this that for this grand up? 1287 01:04:56,827 --> 01:05:01,067 Speaker 7: He said, we'll see. It was very much we'll see, 1288 01:05:01,507 --> 01:05:03,747 Speaker 7: And then he was asked, well, what about your coaching 1289 01:05:03,987 --> 01:05:06,707 Speaker 7: relationship with Andy Murray, how's that going to go and 1290 01:05:06,707 --> 01:05:08,987 Speaker 7: to see? Well, we'll see on that as well. So 1291 01:05:09,067 --> 01:05:14,067 Speaker 7: everything is very much up in the air for Novak Center, novaccentent, 1292 01:05:14,387 --> 01:05:17,667 Speaker 7: Novak Jokovic, Sorry, well, thinking about young Ack Center as well. Yeah, 1293 01:05:17,747 --> 01:05:21,547 Speaker 7: everything up in the air and unfortunate way to finish. Yeah, 1294 01:05:21,587 --> 01:05:25,147 Speaker 7: it just people did want more, and even Zev said 1295 01:05:25,347 --> 01:05:27,627 Speaker 7: on court as well that he was surprised. He didn't 1296 01:05:27,907 --> 01:05:30,987 Speaker 7: think that that Djokovic was going to pull out. 1297 01:05:32,387 --> 01:05:35,627 Speaker 2: Just before we move on from Novak Djokovic, I guess 1298 01:05:35,667 --> 01:05:39,107 Speaker 2: it's possible, Dave, that his final number might be twenty four. 1299 01:05:40,907 --> 01:05:43,907 Speaker 7: I would say very possible. I can't see him winning 1300 01:05:43,907 --> 01:05:48,747 Speaker 7: the French Open at all, Wimbledon, for it's probably his 1301 01:05:48,867 --> 01:05:53,187 Speaker 7: best opportunity. Well from now on, US Open has just 1302 01:05:53,227 --> 01:05:57,107 Speaker 7: a drawn out drag of a tournament where you just 1303 01:05:57,347 --> 01:06:00,027 Speaker 7: feel absolutely exhausted and you've got to win your seven 1304 01:06:00,067 --> 01:06:02,307 Speaker 7: matches and it's just tough, and I can't see him 1305 01:06:02,307 --> 01:06:05,587 Speaker 7: winning that. We're in, you know, it's a bit shorter matches, 1306 01:06:05,627 --> 01:06:10,427 Speaker 7: shorter time of play. But even then, well it was 1307 01:06:10,427 --> 01:06:12,627 Speaker 7: Alkaraz who's won at the last couple of times and 1308 01:06:12,667 --> 01:06:13,707 Speaker 7: beaten Djokovic. 1309 01:06:14,307 --> 01:06:14,667 Speaker 8: I don't know. 1310 01:06:14,827 --> 01:06:16,427 Speaker 7: I think there's going to be twenty four. It's going 1311 01:06:16,467 --> 01:06:19,387 Speaker 7: to be his number, and it's just well, hey, it's 1312 01:06:19,387 --> 01:06:22,107 Speaker 7: superb getting to twenty four, particularly when he was racing 1313 01:06:22,147 --> 01:06:24,787 Speaker 7: against Federer and the Dale to actually get there and 1314 01:06:24,907 --> 01:06:27,427 Speaker 7: having to really compete against those two. But now he's 1315 01:06:27,507 --> 01:06:31,547 Speaker 7: up against young players. Well younger players Zadis twenty seven, 1316 01:06:31,747 --> 01:06:34,787 Speaker 7: You've got alcaz At what is he twenty one, and 1317 01:06:34,827 --> 01:06:37,747 Speaker 7: you've got center At twenty two, twenty three. So you've 1318 01:06:37,747 --> 01:06:40,187 Speaker 7: got those set the players, and then others like Shelton 1319 01:06:40,227 --> 01:06:42,667 Speaker 7: coming through as well who are going to create some damage. 1320 01:06:42,907 --> 01:06:45,467 Speaker 7: There's a whole lot of others around about nineteen twenty two. 1321 01:06:46,507 --> 01:06:49,467 Speaker 2: Alright, let's talk about the German second seed, Alexander's Veriev 1322 01:06:49,667 --> 01:06:54,387 Speaker 2: into his third major final. He's never won one. He's 1323 01:06:54,427 --> 01:06:58,787 Speaker 2: been around since what twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, Dave, He's 1324 01:06:58,787 --> 01:07:03,307 Speaker 2: made semi finals. This is his first Australian Open final. 1325 01:07:04,107 --> 01:07:07,907 Speaker 2: What chance do you give Alexanders Verie finally breaking this 1326 01:07:08,067 --> 01:07:09,467 Speaker 2: major duck of hiss. 1327 01:07:10,787 --> 01:07:13,187 Speaker 7: Well, there's always been this pressure on him that he 1328 01:07:13,587 --> 01:07:17,347 Speaker 7: had it in the US Open twenty twenty against Dominic team. 1329 01:07:17,387 --> 01:07:19,427 Speaker 7: I think he was one or two points away and 1330 01:07:19,507 --> 01:07:21,627 Speaker 7: he had it within his grasp when they lost it 1331 01:07:21,667 --> 01:07:24,187 Speaker 7: in sort of collapse. He struggled since then. He made 1332 01:07:24,227 --> 01:07:26,387 Speaker 7: the French Open final and I think there was against 1333 01:07:26,907 --> 01:07:28,547 Speaker 7: in the day. It's always against the day at the 1334 01:07:28,547 --> 01:07:33,027 Speaker 7: French and again struggled there. He has had his opportunities 1335 01:07:33,067 --> 01:07:35,467 Speaker 7: and the pressure kept on coming on to him and 1336 01:07:35,867 --> 01:07:38,547 Speaker 7: making it so difficult to actually win, and he was 1337 01:07:38,587 --> 01:07:42,467 Speaker 7: so consistent in making the quarters or the semi finals. However, 1338 01:07:42,707 --> 01:07:45,947 Speaker 7: he just struggled to actually capitalize on that on his skills, 1339 01:07:45,987 --> 01:07:47,587 Speaker 7: and then he sort of fell away a little bit. 1340 01:07:47,787 --> 01:07:49,627 Speaker 7: He's come back very strong in the later part of 1341 01:07:49,627 --> 01:07:53,827 Speaker 7: the year and so far at the Australian opened as well. Really, 1342 01:07:53,827 --> 01:07:55,787 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say he his cruised through, but he certainly 1343 01:07:56,067 --> 01:07:59,587 Speaker 7: played extremely strong to make it through to the final. 1344 01:08:00,587 --> 01:08:04,027 Speaker 7: For can he do it against a Cinner? Yeah, I 1345 01:08:04,067 --> 01:08:06,507 Speaker 7: think you've got a favorite center obviously defending champion, and 1346 01:08:06,667 --> 01:08:10,307 Speaker 7: he's had a couple of little nickel injuries and then 1347 01:08:10,347 --> 01:08:14,267 Speaker 7: also a bit of cramp last night that I I 1348 01:08:14,307 --> 01:08:17,627 Speaker 7: think I'm still going sixty forty for Sinner over Zadev, 1349 01:08:17,667 --> 01:08:19,707 Speaker 7: who has a lot of ability, but I just think 1350 01:08:19,747 --> 01:08:21,827 Speaker 7: the mental pressure will tell on him. 1351 01:08:22,427 --> 01:08:24,387 Speaker 2: Second Simmi, last night, let's look at that young Ni 1352 01:08:24,467 --> 01:08:27,227 Speaker 2: center top seed against Ben Shelton. The rank outside a 1353 01:08:27,467 --> 01:08:31,267 Speaker 2: twenty first seated American seven six so seven two on 1354 01:08:31,307 --> 01:08:33,187 Speaker 2: the tie break then six two six two. That looks 1355 01:08:33,227 --> 01:08:36,747 Speaker 2: pretty comprehensive. Was it as comprehensive on court as that. 1356 01:08:37,587 --> 01:08:40,347 Speaker 7: Well, the first set was exciting. That's what you get 1357 01:08:40,387 --> 01:08:43,347 Speaker 7: with Ben Shelton. You get excitement, you get him well, 1358 01:08:43,387 --> 01:08:46,667 Speaker 7: he just felt collected center with a servant. I think 1359 01:08:46,707 --> 01:08:49,027 Speaker 7: it was about two hundred and forty en case. The 1360 01:08:49,067 --> 01:08:51,387 Speaker 7: ball just kept on aiming straight at center. He had 1361 01:08:51,387 --> 01:08:53,587 Speaker 7: to must get out of the way, and that's what 1362 01:08:53,627 --> 01:08:56,107 Speaker 7: you get. That was a second serve actually, so you know, 1363 01:08:56,147 --> 01:08:58,267 Speaker 7: you get these big serves, you get them trying to volley, 1364 01:08:58,267 --> 01:08:59,947 Speaker 7: you get them trying to do all sorts of things 1365 01:08:59,947 --> 01:09:03,747 Speaker 7: and makes it exciting to watch. However, keeping up that 1366 01:09:03,907 --> 01:09:06,707 Speaker 7: level against someone who was at a different level sale 1367 01:09:06,987 --> 01:09:09,827 Speaker 7: in Cinner is difficult. And this is the thing is 1368 01:09:09,867 --> 01:09:13,667 Speaker 7: level dropped away. He started being a bit passive against 1369 01:09:13,667 --> 01:09:15,707 Speaker 7: someone like Sinner. You've got to be aggressive. That doesn't 1370 01:09:15,747 --> 01:09:17,947 Speaker 7: mean going for a big shot every time, but that 1371 01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:20,587 Speaker 7: means being aggressive in the point. If you get passive 1372 01:09:20,787 --> 01:09:23,507 Speaker 7: against Sinner, he will just deal to you as what 1373 01:09:23,627 --> 01:09:26,107 Speaker 7: happened in the second and third sets, and that's you know. 1374 01:09:26,147 --> 01:09:29,627 Speaker 7: Senna is good. Shelton is good. He's made the what 1375 01:09:29,747 --> 01:09:31,787 Speaker 7: was it the semi finals of the USL in twenty 1376 01:09:31,907 --> 01:09:34,867 Speaker 7: twenty three loss to Djokovic, He's got plenty of potential. 1377 01:09:35,187 --> 01:09:38,347 Speaker 7: He just needs to sometimes understand when and how he 1378 01:09:38,387 --> 01:09:40,547 Speaker 7: should be playing his shots, particularly when you're up against 1379 01:09:40,587 --> 01:09:46,467 Speaker 7: someone like Senna, who is just he's just so good, all. 1380 01:09:46,427 --> 01:09:48,707 Speaker 2: Right, So first against second in terms of seedings for 1381 01:09:48,747 --> 01:09:51,987 Speaker 2: the men's final, that's tomorrow night Tonight the women's singles 1382 01:09:51,987 --> 01:09:54,747 Speaker 2: final from nine to thirty New Zealand time on Rod 1383 01:09:54,827 --> 01:09:59,227 Speaker 2: Labor Area. Arena Sabolenka two time defending champion. She's only 1384 01:09:59,307 --> 01:10:02,787 Speaker 2: dropped one set in the entire tournament, up against Madison Keys, 1385 01:10:02,827 --> 01:10:05,307 Speaker 2: who I think for many was probably a surprise when 1386 01:10:05,467 --> 01:10:08,027 Speaker 2: over Eggers fe On take maybe even a surprise to 1387 01:10:08,107 --> 01:10:11,947 Speaker 2: herself in the semi final. Can Medicine Keys lift one 1388 01:10:11,987 --> 01:10:16,347 Speaker 2: more time? Because Arena Saberlenka looks imperious to me, Dave. 1389 01:10:17,707 --> 01:10:20,187 Speaker 7: Yeah, she does. She's hitting the ball so hard we 1390 01:10:20,267 --> 01:10:21,587 Speaker 7: could be in for a little bit of a well, 1391 01:10:21,547 --> 01:10:23,747 Speaker 7: we won't call it a bashing test, but it's certainly 1392 01:10:23,747 --> 01:10:25,987 Speaker 7: a very hard hitting you know, I can hit it hard. 1393 01:10:25,987 --> 01:10:28,267 Speaker 7: Can you hit it that hard? That's what we're probably 1394 01:10:28,267 --> 01:10:30,387 Speaker 7: going to get tonight because that's the way that Keys 1395 01:10:30,427 --> 01:10:33,547 Speaker 7: plays as well. Where Zego's Frontek is more of a counterpuncher, 1396 01:10:33,667 --> 01:10:36,227 Speaker 7: quick movement, and you know, it makes it a little 1397 01:10:36,227 --> 01:10:39,067 Speaker 7: bit more difficult for Sebolenka to actually hit the big 1398 01:10:39,067 --> 01:10:44,627 Speaker 7: winning shots. I watched Sebolanka practice a couple of nights ago, 1399 01:10:44,947 --> 01:10:48,907 Speaker 7: and up close her main strength that she was, her 1400 01:10:48,947 --> 01:10:51,067 Speaker 7: main thing she was trying to do was just bash 1401 01:10:51,227 --> 01:10:53,947 Speaker 7: a serve back as hard as possible. And I was thinking, well, 1402 01:10:53,947 --> 01:10:56,347 Speaker 7: there's not much subtlety there, but you know, that's the 1403 01:10:56,387 --> 01:11:00,107 Speaker 7: way she plays. And having discussions with other media about 1404 01:11:00,187 --> 01:11:02,467 Speaker 7: does she have a second type of game, like a 1405 01:11:02,507 --> 01:11:05,227 Speaker 7: plan B to hit the ball a little bit, a 1406 01:11:05,227 --> 01:11:09,067 Speaker 7: little bit softer, change the pace, and certainly the debate, well, 1407 01:11:09,147 --> 01:11:11,027 Speaker 7: I was fifty to fifty on that one. I'm certainly 1408 01:11:11,067 --> 01:11:13,787 Speaker 7: not so keen on her actually being able to hit 1409 01:11:13,787 --> 01:11:16,627 Speaker 7: the ball with a different type of pace or changing 1410 01:11:16,627 --> 01:11:19,027 Speaker 7: the pace. I think she's actually just got a little 1411 01:11:19,027 --> 01:11:21,547 Speaker 7: bit one dimensional but it's working. This is the thing 1412 01:11:21,627 --> 01:11:24,707 Speaker 7: she's winning with power. She's doing a Serena Williams after 1413 01:11:24,747 --> 01:11:28,347 Speaker 7: Serena Williams dominating, bullying other players on the court with 1414 01:11:28,547 --> 01:11:31,027 Speaker 7: their power. So you got to look at her as 1415 01:11:31,027 --> 01:11:33,667 Speaker 7: a favorite medicine Key's a good player. Runner up the 1416 01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:37,387 Speaker 7: US opens to Sloan Stevens back in twenty seventeen. I 1417 01:11:37,387 --> 01:11:39,587 Speaker 7: think it was that was when Keys should have won it, 1418 01:11:39,627 --> 01:11:42,387 Speaker 7: but had a major injury, could have even walk and 1419 01:11:42,627 --> 01:11:44,547 Speaker 7: she should have won that. So you know, she's a 1420 01:11:44,587 --> 01:11:47,067 Speaker 7: good player. She made the semifinals here. I think it 1421 01:11:47,107 --> 01:11:50,627 Speaker 7: was in two and fifteen or a long time ago 1422 01:11:50,627 --> 01:11:53,267 Speaker 7: when she was quite young. So she's a decent player 1423 01:11:53,267 --> 01:11:57,987 Speaker 7: on hard court. But I believe that Saberlenka will win tonight, 1424 01:11:59,147 --> 01:11:59,547 Speaker 7: all right. 1425 01:11:59,587 --> 01:12:01,507 Speaker 2: Just before you go, Aaron Rautliff made a couple of 1426 01:12:01,507 --> 01:12:04,947 Speaker 2: semi finals and the women's doubles and the mixed doubles, 1427 01:12:04,987 --> 01:12:07,707 Speaker 2: alongside Michael Venus in the mix doubles and with her 1428 01:12:08,427 --> 01:12:13,507 Speaker 2: partner Gabby Dobrowski in the women's doubles. A shame not 1429 01:12:13,587 --> 01:12:15,427 Speaker 2: to see Aaron Rautliff make it through the at least 1430 01:12:15,427 --> 01:12:16,627 Speaker 2: one of those two finals. 1431 01:12:16,987 --> 01:12:20,147 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. I mean second time semi final here 1432 01:12:20,187 --> 01:12:23,947 Speaker 7: at the Ossie Open in the women's doubles with Dobrowski. 1433 01:12:24,107 --> 01:12:27,107 Speaker 7: In fact, she lost to Ostapenko last year as well, 1434 01:12:27,107 --> 01:12:29,347 Speaker 7: actually in the semis, so yeah tough. Here they came 1435 01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:33,347 Speaker 7: up against Osta Penco and Suwe Sai, both extremely unorthodox 1436 01:12:33,387 --> 01:12:38,587 Speaker 7: when it comes to their play, but considering that Dobrowski 1437 01:12:38,627 --> 01:12:42,307 Speaker 7: and Rautliff hadn't played until this tournament. They struggled the 1438 01:12:42,307 --> 01:12:44,907 Speaker 7: first couple of matches but still won them, won a 1439 01:12:44,987 --> 01:12:48,067 Speaker 7: quarter final easily, and then through the semis. Its gonna 1440 01:12:48,107 --> 01:12:50,547 Speaker 7: be tough, lost in three sets, so I think they 1441 01:12:50,587 --> 01:12:52,907 Speaker 7: can be pretty pleased considering what the two of them 1442 01:12:52,947 --> 01:12:56,107 Speaker 7: have been through that Dobrowski of course with their breast cancer, 1443 01:12:56,387 --> 01:13:00,187 Speaker 7: and we had Routliff with a major rib injury where 1444 01:13:00,227 --> 01:13:03,387 Speaker 7: she basically couldn't pick up a racket for a month 1445 01:13:03,507 --> 01:13:05,947 Speaker 7: or so. So yeah, they were pretty pleased to make 1446 01:13:05,947 --> 01:13:08,587 Speaker 7: it to the obviously didn't want to lose, and they're 1447 01:13:08,667 --> 01:13:10,907 Speaker 7: up three love in the first set and somehow managed 1448 01:13:10,947 --> 01:13:14,627 Speaker 7: to lose it into tiebreak. But considering finally they've been 1449 01:13:14,667 --> 01:13:18,027 Speaker 7: they've played together in five Grand Slams and their worst 1450 01:13:18,027 --> 01:13:20,507 Speaker 7: effort is quarter finals at the US Open last year, 1451 01:13:20,867 --> 01:13:23,307 Speaker 7: two semi finals, a runner up and a win, So 1452 01:13:23,467 --> 01:13:25,747 Speaker 7: not a bad effort I have for Dobrawskian route left. 1453 01:13:26,107 --> 01:13:29,147 Speaker 2: Absolutely not Dave, Thanks so much, mate, enjoy the remainder 1454 01:13:29,187 --> 01:13:32,267 Speaker 2: of your twenty sixth Australian Open. Appreciate you joining us 1455 01:13:32,267 --> 01:13:33,787 Speaker 2: on weekend sport this afternoon. 1456 01:13:34,347 --> 01:13:36,387 Speaker 7: No worries, Planny, I'm feeling old when you're said like that. 1457 01:13:38,027 --> 01:13:40,787 Speaker 2: I'll always be older than you, Dave. Dave Worsley from 1458 01:13:40,827 --> 01:13:43,627 Speaker 2: Melbourne Park where the Australian openers into its final stages. 1459 01:13:43,707 --> 01:13:47,867 Speaker 2: So women's singles final tonight Arena Sabalinka against Madison Keys 1460 01:13:47,867 --> 01:13:50,147 Speaker 2: from nine thirty in New Zealand time, and then tomorrow 1461 01:13:50,227 --> 01:13:52,387 Speaker 2: night it's one v two in terms of the seedings. 1462 01:13:52,427 --> 01:13:56,467 Speaker 2: Can Alexander's Veriev finally win his first major? Or will 1463 01:13:56,467 --> 01:13:58,427 Speaker 2: it be back to back Australian Opens for the number 1464 01:13:58,467 --> 01:14:01,387 Speaker 2: one set of Italian Jarnick Sinner. That's tomorrow night from 1465 01:14:01,427 --> 01:14:03,907 Speaker 2: around about the same time eighteen to two. When we 1466 01:14:03,947 --> 01:14:06,267 Speaker 2: come back, we'll go back to Australia. 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What did you make of the 1478 01:14:30,027 --> 01:14:31,987 Speaker 2: booing of Novak Jokovic last night? 1479 01:14:32,827 --> 01:14:38,267 Speaker 6: Yeah, hello, Piney. It wasn't It wasn't ridiculous. It was 1480 01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:42,507 Speaker 6: probably about maybe ten people who were obviously peeved that 1481 01:14:43,147 --> 01:14:45,507 Speaker 6: Novak was going and didn't know the full story. And 1482 01:14:45,787 --> 01:14:48,987 Speaker 6: like when you when you're in there and watching, especially higher, 1483 01:14:49,067 --> 01:14:51,667 Speaker 6: you don't really have an indication what's going on, and 1484 01:14:51,707 --> 01:14:54,707 Speaker 6: even the PA you can't really hear what's going on 1485 01:14:54,787 --> 01:14:58,987 Speaker 6: when the when the chair umpire makes an announcement. So yeah, 1486 01:14:59,027 --> 01:15:01,707 Speaker 6: it was It was unfortunate. And what these people have 1487 01:15:01,707 --> 01:15:04,427 Speaker 6: paid between five hundred one thousand dollars for a ticket, 1488 01:15:04,907 --> 01:15:08,107 Speaker 6: doesn't it me? Personally? Would I go in there and 1489 01:15:08,427 --> 01:15:10,307 Speaker 6: use that as an excuse to say, oh I can 1490 01:15:10,347 --> 01:15:13,227 Speaker 6: do and say and boo who I want? Probably not 1491 01:15:13,227 --> 01:15:15,467 Speaker 6: not in my nature, but it's in some people's actually 1492 01:15:15,467 --> 01:15:17,827 Speaker 6: to react that way. But I think the whole thing 1493 01:15:17,907 --> 01:15:20,907 Speaker 6: might have been a little overblown. It wasn't ridiculous. It 1494 01:15:20,907 --> 01:15:24,107 Speaker 6: wasn't the whole crowd or anything I'd say the vast 1495 01:15:24,107 --> 01:15:26,067 Speaker 6: majority of the crowd was actually applauding the guy up 1496 01:15:26,067 --> 01:15:27,507 Speaker 6: of court, but it was just a few that you 1497 01:15:27,507 --> 01:15:31,307 Speaker 6: could hear over that applause. It's a pretty definitive sound, 1498 01:15:31,427 --> 01:15:36,027 Speaker 6: So yeah, a little overblone, but it happened. 1499 01:15:35,907 --> 01:15:38,187 Speaker 2: Just a few muppets, shall we say, just a few muppets. 1500 01:15:38,267 --> 01:15:42,187 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and they'll probably wake up today and go, oh, 1501 01:15:42,307 --> 01:15:44,307 Speaker 6: I don't care. I can boo boo who I want. 1502 01:15:45,387 --> 01:15:46,547 Speaker 6: But life goes on. 1503 01:15:46,787 --> 01:15:49,587 Speaker 2: So second Seemi last night Janix and I Ben Shelton 1504 01:15:50,067 --> 01:15:52,987 Speaker 2: first seat was pretty pretty competitively for it, but then 1505 01:15:53,027 --> 01:15:55,467 Speaker 2: Cena just kind of clear it out. Would he be 1506 01:15:55,547 --> 01:15:58,187 Speaker 2: favorite against vere River, A firm favorite tomorrow night? 1507 01:15:58,707 --> 01:15:59,467 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 1508 01:15:59,627 --> 01:15:59,867 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1509 01:15:59,947 --> 01:16:02,387 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like Zarah's going to have to play the match 1510 01:16:02,387 --> 01:16:04,107 Speaker 6: of his life to keep this guy on this court. 1511 01:16:04,587 --> 01:16:09,947 Speaker 6: So look, he's played some damn good matches before Alexaverev. 1512 01:16:10,267 --> 01:16:12,307 Speaker 6: He's won I think he's won twenty three tour titles, 1513 01:16:12,307 --> 01:16:14,547 Speaker 6: he's won two year end championships, he's won an Olympic 1514 01:16:14,587 --> 01:16:17,827 Speaker 6: gold medal. All that he doesn't have is a Grand 1515 01:16:17,867 --> 01:16:20,187 Speaker 6: Slam title to his name, and he's been in two 1516 01:16:20,187 --> 01:16:25,427 Speaker 6: finals and led two sets. Belove, So yeah, it's a 1517 01:16:25,427 --> 01:16:28,547 Speaker 6: difficult one for him to approach and say, oh, look, 1518 01:16:28,787 --> 01:16:30,667 Speaker 6: I've got nothing to lose, Blove. Oh yeah, well he 1519 01:16:30,707 --> 01:16:32,587 Speaker 6: actually does because he's got oz and three next to 1520 01:16:32,627 --> 01:16:34,387 Speaker 6: his name, not O and two and Grand Slam finals 1521 01:16:34,427 --> 01:16:37,427 Speaker 6: if he does lose, so tricky assignment to try and 1522 01:16:37,427 --> 01:16:40,667 Speaker 6: then play free and play your best. But he's going 1523 01:16:40,747 --> 01:16:43,307 Speaker 6: to have to do it because Sinner is in such 1524 01:16:43,347 --> 01:16:44,307 Speaker 6: good form at the moment. 1525 01:16:44,467 --> 01:16:47,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's imperious almost. I think Arena Sablinka is kind 1526 01:16:47,827 --> 01:16:50,347 Speaker 2: of the same in the women's isn't she firm favorite 1527 01:16:50,347 --> 01:16:51,627 Speaker 2: tonight against Madison Keys. 1528 01:16:52,427 --> 01:16:57,947 Speaker 6: Yeah, but in a way it's similar but a little 1529 01:16:57,987 --> 01:17:00,947 Speaker 6: different than Madison Keys, who the first time she was 1530 01:17:00,947 --> 01:17:03,947 Speaker 6: in a Grand Slam final she was just overcome with nerves. 1531 01:17:03,987 --> 01:17:07,187 Speaker 6: She played so tight. That was seven years ago, so 1532 01:17:07,627 --> 01:17:10,827 Speaker 6: totally different human being now, totally different stage of life. 1533 01:17:11,067 --> 01:17:13,587 Speaker 6: I think she's come to appreciate exactly where she is. 1534 01:17:13,667 --> 01:17:16,627 Speaker 6: So Satlength is a favorite a bit like Yannick, like 1535 01:17:16,707 --> 01:17:18,867 Speaker 6: that there's no reason to look at her game at 1536 01:17:18,867 --> 01:17:20,867 Speaker 6: the moment and say, well, she's down on form or 1537 01:17:20,907 --> 01:17:24,787 Speaker 6: she's vulnerable or no, she's absolutely the favorite. But Madison Keys, 1538 01:17:24,787 --> 01:17:27,387 Speaker 6: I just get the feeling there's the ability for her 1539 01:17:27,427 --> 01:17:31,507 Speaker 6: to play a little freer, as opposed to Zverev, who 1540 01:17:31,827 --> 01:17:36,027 Speaker 6: has built up this amazing resume without the one thing missing. 1541 01:17:36,107 --> 01:17:38,107 Speaker 6: Like he's been too, he's been a fixture in the 1542 01:17:38,107 --> 01:17:40,627 Speaker 6: top five, whereas Madison Key's kind of come and gone 1543 01:17:40,707 --> 01:17:43,187 Speaker 6: now at the moment, She's changed the rackets, She's got married, 1544 01:17:43,907 --> 01:17:47,227 Speaker 6: her husband is her coach, She's totally settled in her life. 1545 01:17:47,707 --> 01:17:51,587 Speaker 6: It's it's almost like a bigger opportunity than that. It 1546 01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:55,307 Speaker 6: is something to kind of be hindered by. So yeah, 1547 01:17:55,307 --> 01:17:56,827 Speaker 6: we'll wait and see. I mean, Sabate Length is the 1548 01:17:56,827 --> 01:17:57,987 Speaker 6: absolute favorite. Like Centner. 1549 01:17:58,427 --> 01:18:00,547 Speaker 2: Just before we move on from the tennis, just back 1550 01:18:00,587 --> 01:18:03,067 Speaker 2: to the men's and Alex Demaneu. We spoke about him 1551 01:18:03,147 --> 01:18:04,987 Speaker 2: last week. He made it through to the quarterfinals. But 1552 01:18:05,467 --> 01:18:09,187 Speaker 2: sex three sex to sex one against youanix Centner. That 1553 01:18:09,187 --> 01:18:12,587 Speaker 2: tells the title of a pretty big gap between the 1554 01:18:12,627 --> 01:18:14,547 Speaker 2: guys at the very top of the tree and Alex 1555 01:18:14,627 --> 01:18:15,627 Speaker 2: de Mineu. Will that be fair? 1556 01:18:16,667 --> 01:18:16,867 Speaker 23: Yep? 1557 01:18:17,547 --> 01:18:24,427 Speaker 6: Yeah, Alex Alex is like a Sinner's a better version 1558 01:18:24,427 --> 01:18:27,867 Speaker 6: of Alex essentially, like he does everything that he does, 1559 01:18:28,307 --> 01:18:30,867 Speaker 6: and Alex is amazing because he puts himself in the 1560 01:18:30,907 --> 01:18:34,107 Speaker 6: situation where he gives himself a chance against these guys. 1561 01:18:34,107 --> 01:18:35,907 Speaker 6: Not a lot of players can do that, and he 1562 01:18:35,907 --> 01:18:38,147 Speaker 6: will continue to do that. And I've got so much 1563 01:18:38,187 --> 01:18:41,587 Speaker 6: action for Alex, but sometimes unfortunately you bump into players 1564 01:18:41,587 --> 01:18:43,507 Speaker 6: that just do not match up well with you. And 1565 01:18:44,307 --> 01:18:46,787 Speaker 6: Senna basically moves like Alex but a little bit better, 1566 01:18:46,867 --> 01:18:49,307 Speaker 6: hits the ball like Alex a little bit better, and 1567 01:18:49,507 --> 01:18:52,467 Speaker 6: has the demeanor on court like Alex, but a little 1568 01:18:52,467 --> 01:18:56,067 Speaker 6: bit better. It's a hard one for Alex to overcome. 1569 01:18:56,107 --> 01:18:59,747 Speaker 6: He's just got to stick with it. And this he'd 1570 01:18:59,747 --> 01:19:01,747 Speaker 6: be sick of people saying this term as well. It's 1571 01:19:01,747 --> 01:19:03,347 Speaker 6: like you're on the right track, stick with it, blah 1572 01:19:03,347 --> 01:19:05,187 Speaker 6: blah blah. I just wait for your day. That just 1573 01:19:05,187 --> 01:19:06,347 Speaker 6: sends me. What he's got to do is he's got 1574 01:19:06,307 --> 01:19:08,707 Speaker 6: to wait for his day when the top guys that 1575 01:19:08,707 --> 01:19:11,587 Speaker 6: he's playing and bumping into might have an off day 1576 01:19:11,707 --> 01:19:14,427 Speaker 6: and then Alex has a very good one and you 1577 01:19:14,507 --> 01:19:17,027 Speaker 6: never know what happens. He was right in the frame 1578 01:19:17,227 --> 01:19:19,867 Speaker 6: last year at Wimbledon, Think Special, and then got injured. 1579 01:19:19,987 --> 01:19:23,987 Speaker 6: So that's perhaps his best hope in twenty twenty five. 1580 01:19:24,707 --> 01:19:27,587 Speaker 6: And you know, Glass is a different piece. So just 1581 01:19:27,627 --> 01:19:31,347 Speaker 6: on these hard courts, in these controlled conditions, guys like 1582 01:19:31,427 --> 01:19:35,027 Speaker 6: Novak and Yannick Center in particular, are just so hard 1583 01:19:35,067 --> 01:19:35,227 Speaker 6: to be. 1584 01:19:36,507 --> 01:19:38,427 Speaker 2: The other story that's caught my eye on your side 1585 01:19:38,467 --> 01:19:40,787 Speaker 2: of the Tasman was Tony Popovitch, the coach of your 1586 01:19:40,787 --> 01:19:43,627 Speaker 2: football team the Soccer US, did a wide ranging interview 1587 01:19:43,627 --> 01:19:46,547 Speaker 2: with a bunch of a bunch of football media on 1588 01:19:46,587 --> 01:19:49,907 Speaker 2: your side of the Tasman and set some pretty high 1589 01:19:49,947 --> 01:19:52,947 Speaker 2: standards for what he expects from his players and even 1590 01:19:53,267 --> 01:19:55,787 Speaker 2: singled out a couple as to as to not having 1591 01:19:55,827 --> 01:19:57,307 Speaker 2: reached those standards. What did you make of this? 1592 01:19:58,787 --> 01:20:02,427 Speaker 6: Yeah, I caught these comments. That's just Popovich. I think 1593 01:20:02,507 --> 01:20:07,307 Speaker 6: that's his way. He's like, obviously he can communicate with 1594 01:20:07,347 --> 01:20:09,107 Speaker 6: all these players, but to put it out in public, 1595 01:20:09,107 --> 01:20:13,307 Speaker 6: the players are going to read it and go, oh, yeah, okay, 1596 01:20:13,507 --> 01:20:14,707 Speaker 6: this is what I'm going to get at my head 1597 01:20:14,747 --> 01:20:16,947 Speaker 6: around before it comes back down. It's kind of perfect 1598 01:20:16,987 --> 01:20:19,667 Speaker 6: timing because yeah, it's on the back burner at the moment, 1599 01:20:19,747 --> 01:20:23,027 Speaker 6: World Cup qualifying. It's all about club football. But before 1600 01:20:23,027 --> 01:20:25,227 Speaker 6: you know it, we're going to have a massive World 1601 01:20:25,267 --> 01:20:29,387 Speaker 6: Cup qualifier here against Indonesia in March, and then I 1602 01:20:29,427 --> 01:20:31,507 Speaker 6: think at the same time, we go away and play 1603 01:20:31,587 --> 01:20:34,347 Speaker 6: China away in two matches. If we win, it makes 1604 01:20:34,387 --> 01:20:37,747 Speaker 6: things pretty good to qualify automatically for the World Cup. 1605 01:20:38,107 --> 01:20:41,987 Speaker 6: If we don't, it's going to make it difficult. So yeah, 1606 01:20:41,987 --> 01:20:47,347 Speaker 6: it's just tiny seed planting basically, and seeing if his 1607 01:20:47,427 --> 01:20:49,387 Speaker 6: players are happy to respond to that. They won't get 1608 01:20:49,387 --> 01:20:51,907 Speaker 6: the arm. It's very much in their court about what 1609 01:20:51,947 --> 01:20:57,307 Speaker 6: they do. But yeah, so the timing is exactly right 1610 01:20:57,707 --> 01:20:59,227 Speaker 6: to say something like that at that point, I'm saying 1611 01:20:59,267 --> 01:21:03,347 Speaker 6: this a week before the soccer is playing next Yeah, 1612 01:21:03,627 --> 01:21:05,187 Speaker 6: now it's the time to say And that very much 1613 01:21:05,227 --> 01:21:08,147 Speaker 6: puts any thing on the radar for what they need 1614 01:21:08,187 --> 01:21:09,867 Speaker 6: to do over the next six weeks to put themselves 1615 01:21:09,867 --> 01:21:12,067 Speaker 6: in the best possible shape to come down here and 1616 01:21:12,107 --> 01:21:13,547 Speaker 6: perform we get us to a World Cup. 1617 01:21:13,707 --> 01:21:16,387 Speaker 2: You're not allowed, lolly, you're not even allowed sauce on 1618 01:21:16,427 --> 01:21:19,427 Speaker 2: your pasta. And in the last five minutes. 1619 01:21:19,547 --> 01:21:24,467 Speaker 6: No, no, I wouldn't even bother showing it. Yeah, he 1620 01:21:24,587 --> 01:21:26,827 Speaker 6: got that. That's exactly what he did a Western did 1621 01:21:26,867 --> 01:21:29,307 Speaker 6: he wonders, That's exactly what he did at the other 1622 01:21:29,347 --> 01:21:32,747 Speaker 6: clubs he went to. He just sees it pretty clearly. 1623 01:21:32,827 --> 01:21:34,827 Speaker 6: It's like, if you want to be a professional footballer, 1624 01:21:35,587 --> 01:21:40,267 Speaker 6: act like one and I pops that's that's how he 1625 01:21:40,387 --> 01:21:43,267 Speaker 6: acts like one. But this is what goes back to 1626 01:21:43,267 --> 01:21:45,187 Speaker 6: when he was playing with the soccer as these guys 1627 01:21:45,227 --> 01:21:49,587 Speaker 6: were were just so dedicated. Bresciano Grello, the guys that 1628 01:21:49,707 --> 01:21:53,107 Speaker 6: play in Italy, they tell stories of when their pregame 1629 01:21:53,147 --> 01:21:55,107 Speaker 6: meal was always the same. It was a pastor with 1630 01:21:55,147 --> 01:21:57,187 Speaker 6: a tiny bit of oil and cheese and maybe a 1631 01:21:57,227 --> 01:21:58,907 Speaker 6: bit of sold on top of it. No meat because 1632 01:21:58,907 --> 01:22:01,347 Speaker 6: it doesn't digest quick enough before the game. Is like 1633 01:22:01,427 --> 01:22:05,587 Speaker 6: all these things and this now Tony Popovich can't build 1634 01:22:05,627 --> 01:22:08,947 Speaker 6: himself into a good manager, has taken things like that 1635 01:22:08,947 --> 01:22:12,147 Speaker 6: that he's seen around the world in all cultures. He's 1636 01:22:12,147 --> 01:22:15,067 Speaker 6: played in Japan's played in europe's played here in Australia, 1637 01:22:15,147 --> 01:22:17,987 Speaker 6: and then that's his way. And if you don't like 1638 01:22:18,067 --> 01:22:20,667 Speaker 6: his way, don't come along. But if you do like 1639 01:22:20,707 --> 01:22:22,547 Speaker 6: his way, you're probably going to improve because of his 1640 01:22:22,947 --> 01:22:25,947 Speaker 6: crack record that we've seen in the A League with clubs. 1641 01:22:26,467 --> 01:22:29,067 Speaker 2: Indeed, always good to chat, Adam. Been loving your tennis 1642 01:22:29,107 --> 01:22:30,547 Speaker 2: coverage over the side of the ditch as well. Thanks 1643 01:22:30,587 --> 01:22:32,587 Speaker 2: for joining us as always Adam Peacock out of Australia 1644 01:22:32,627 --> 01:22:34,467 Speaker 2: six and a half to two. Coming up one fifty 1645 01:22:34,507 --> 01:22:38,507 Speaker 2: seven after two o'clock on Weekend Sport. We're in christ Church. 1646 01:22:38,587 --> 01:22:40,267 Speaker 2: The show was in christ Church for the Phoenix game 1647 01:22:40,307 --> 01:22:42,507 Speaker 2: this afternoon, so we'll drill down onto that cost of 1648 01:22:42,507 --> 01:22:44,787 Speaker 2: Barbarusis is on the show. But while we're here, I 1649 01:22:44,827 --> 01:22:47,787 Speaker 2: want to check in on the progress of Tikaha, the 1650 01:22:47,987 --> 01:22:51,947 Speaker 2: new stadium down here. It's scheduled to open next April. 1651 01:22:52,027 --> 01:22:53,027 Speaker 2: Is that still the case? 1652 01:22:54,067 --> 01:22:58,267 Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues, 1653 01:22:59,027 --> 01:23:03,987 Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on 1654 01:23:04,067 --> 01:23:07,827 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Lyin are your home of sport 1655 01:23:08,307 --> 01:23:08,907 Speaker 1: news talks. 1656 01:23:08,947 --> 01:23:09,467 Speaker 23: It'd been. 1657 01:23:11,027 --> 01:23:13,547 Speaker 2: Two o seven. This is Weekend Sport until three. I'm 1658 01:23:13,627 --> 01:23:14,907 Speaker 2: Jason Pine Andy McDonald here. 1659 01:23:14,947 --> 01:23:15,187 Speaker 7: Two. 1660 01:23:15,747 --> 01:23:18,067 Speaker 2: What have we got coming up between now and three? Well, 1661 01:23:18,387 --> 01:23:20,747 Speaker 2: the show's coming to here from christ Church where in 1662 01:23:20,827 --> 01:23:24,147 Speaker 2: about three hours the Wellington Phoenix will play a game 1663 01:23:24,227 --> 01:23:25,947 Speaker 2: of a League football in the Garden City for the 1664 01:23:25,947 --> 01:23:29,347 Speaker 2: first time in nine years. Seems an awfully long time 1665 01:23:29,387 --> 01:23:33,027 Speaker 2: between games in christ Church, I guests. Obviously the Phoenix 1666 01:23:33,107 --> 01:23:35,427 Speaker 2: have been taking games to Auckland for a while, but 1667 01:23:35,627 --> 01:23:38,507 Speaker 2: no point taking an A League game to Auckland anymore 1668 01:23:38,507 --> 01:23:40,787 Speaker 2: because there's an A League team there now, Auckland FC. 1669 01:23:41,147 --> 01:23:44,067 Speaker 2: So back to christ Church for the start of a 1670 01:23:44,107 --> 01:23:47,187 Speaker 2: three year contract with the Garden City. So the Phoenix 1671 01:23:47,187 --> 01:23:50,067 Speaker 2: will play here this season and the next two. So 1672 01:23:50,147 --> 01:23:52,627 Speaker 2: we'll get inside the camp with Costa Barbarusis and also 1673 01:23:52,947 --> 01:23:56,147 Speaker 2: Japanese import Kazuki Nagasawa, who scored his first A League 1674 01:23:56,147 --> 01:24:00,507 Speaker 2: goal on Monday night. Speaking of christ Church, the new 1675 01:24:00,627 --> 01:24:05,067 Speaker 2: stadium is taking shape here te Kaha or one New 1676 01:24:05,147 --> 01:24:07,867 Speaker 2: Zealand Stadium, I think they're going to call it. So 1677 01:24:07,907 --> 01:24:10,507 Speaker 2: where are we in terms of an opening date? Are 1678 01:24:10,507 --> 01:24:16,267 Speaker 2: we on track? And ends? How competitive is the landscape 1679 01:24:16,307 --> 01:24:19,827 Speaker 2: when it comes to trying to get stuff here as 1680 01:24:19,827 --> 01:24:22,227 Speaker 2: opposed to get stuff anywhere else? Because christ Huge will 1681 01:24:22,267 --> 01:24:25,027 Speaker 2: just join a group of venues who all believe that 1682 01:24:25,067 --> 01:24:28,227 Speaker 2: they should be hosting all blacks test matches and concerts 1683 01:24:28,307 --> 01:24:31,827 Speaker 2: and such like. So we'll we'll get the low down 1684 01:24:31,867 --> 01:24:34,907 Speaker 2: on that from Caroline Harvey Tea who is the chief 1685 01:24:34,907 --> 01:24:39,227 Speaker 2: executive of venues All Taltahi and also the cut of 1686 01:24:39,307 --> 01:24:41,947 Speaker 2: a millions on today at Alice Lee Big race meeting 1687 01:24:41,987 --> 01:24:45,227 Speaker 2: this one that Taylor from the tab going to bring 1688 01:24:45,307 --> 01:24:46,787 Speaker 2: us up to date with all of that. Your calls 1689 01:24:46,827 --> 01:24:50,027 Speaker 2: and correspondence continue to be encouraged. You can get through 1690 01:24:50,027 --> 01:24:52,867 Speaker 2: any time on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty via 1691 01:24:52,907 --> 01:24:55,627 Speaker 2: text It's nine two ninety two or emails to Jason 1692 01:24:55,907 --> 01:24:59,027 Speaker 2: at Newstalk SEDV dot co dot nz. But as we 1693 01:24:59,107 --> 01:25:02,387 Speaker 2: tick towards nine past two, as we always do it 1694 01:25:02,387 --> 01:25:05,427 Speaker 2: around about this time on weekend sport, we like to 1695 01:25:05,427 --> 01:25:07,307 Speaker 2: bring you up today with the stuff which may have 1696 01:25:07,427 --> 01:25:10,587 Speaker 2: escaped your attention. We call it in case you missed it, 1697 01:25:11,427 --> 01:25:15,787 Speaker 2: and we start today with Big Bash cricket. The Hobart 1698 01:25:15,827 --> 01:25:19,787 Speaker 2: Hurricanes now know who their opponent will be in the 1699 01:25:19,787 --> 01:25:21,627 Speaker 2: final of the Big Bash from. 1700 01:25:21,427 --> 01:25:25,347 Speaker 25: The last last season with just one win to a 1701 01:25:25,507 --> 01:25:31,987 Speaker 25: Baby Final time through the sixth Fiergandrew Sound, the Severe, Wear, 1702 01:25:32,067 --> 01:25:37,187 Speaker 25: the Warning, the Thunder and the Hurricanes to this side 1703 01:25:37,667 --> 01:25:39,547 Speaker 25: BBL fourteen in Hobart. 1704 01:25:39,667 --> 01:25:42,747 Speaker 2: Here the thunderbeating their crosstown rivals the Sydney Sixers and 1705 01:25:42,787 --> 01:25:45,907 Speaker 2: the Challenger Final by four wickets to book their tickets 1706 01:25:45,907 --> 01:25:50,587 Speaker 2: to Hobart for the Big Bash Final. The Breakers unfortunately 1707 01:25:51,467 --> 01:25:53,627 Speaker 2: didn't have a happy time of things in christ Church 1708 01:25:53,707 --> 01:25:56,787 Speaker 2: last night, losing another one. They lead by two ten 1709 01:25:56,867 --> 01:25:59,507 Speaker 2: seconds on the soft clock. Nice little past to Smith. 1710 01:25:59,587 --> 01:26:01,187 Speaker 7: Now they're down low and. 1711 01:26:01,267 --> 01:26:04,387 Speaker 5: A breakdown for the Breakers on defense and looks. 1712 01:26:04,147 --> 01:26:08,467 Speaker 6: Like they're to come just short against the Vollets who 1713 01:26:08,467 --> 01:26:10,587 Speaker 6: are fantastic greedy performance. 1714 01:26:11,107 --> 01:26:13,867 Speaker 2: Ninety three eighty seven win for the Brisbane Bullets over 1715 01:26:13,907 --> 01:26:17,067 Speaker 2: the Breakers, keeping the Breakers down in a lowly ninth 1716 01:26:17,227 --> 01:26:20,387 Speaker 2: on the points table. Across in Perth, no trouble for 1717 01:26:20,427 --> 01:26:24,507 Speaker 2: the Blackfern Sevens, going two from two on day one 1718 01:26:24,547 --> 01:26:28,147 Speaker 2: of the Perth Seven's or World seven Series event. In 1719 01:26:28,507 --> 01:26:30,147 Speaker 2: emphatic fashion. 1720 01:26:30,347 --> 01:26:33,187 Speaker 26: Bar Colo is on a hat trick and she'll get it, 1721 01:26:34,107 --> 01:26:37,347 Speaker 26: Caitlin Varcola, the trio of tries to get her Perth 1722 01:26:37,387 --> 01:26:40,947 Speaker 26: seven tournament started an imposing beginning from the Black Fern 1723 01:26:41,067 --> 01:26:45,427 Speaker 26: Sevens and beaten Brazil by fifty points to seven. 1724 01:26:45,507 --> 01:26:47,987 Speaker 2: Yeah. That coupled with a forty six mil winover Ireland 1725 01:26:48,187 --> 01:26:51,387 Speaker 2: sees the Blackfern Sevens sitting pretty going into day two, 1726 01:26:51,507 --> 01:26:55,587 Speaker 2: but far from smooth sailing for the all Black seven side. 1727 01:26:55,907 --> 01:26:58,467 Speaker 2: They started with a twenty nine to fourteen winover Kenya, 1728 01:26:58,547 --> 01:27:04,427 Speaker 2: but Uruguay fresh off beating fig played the upset card again. 1729 01:27:04,827 --> 01:27:07,027 Speaker 19: Oh boy, they've taught Thefords up. 1730 01:27:07,107 --> 01:27:07,987 Speaker 13: They are going to take. 1731 01:27:07,907 --> 01:27:10,507 Speaker 7: The penalty and take the three points. 1732 01:27:10,787 --> 01:27:15,827 Speaker 5: And the Agua they knocked out Fiji, now they smash. 1733 01:27:15,507 --> 01:27:17,267 Speaker 19: New Zealand in the second round. 1734 01:27:18,307 --> 01:27:23,547 Speaker 1: Uruguay just good when it's down to the line. 1735 01:27:23,787 --> 01:27:25,427 Speaker 8: You made a call on eight. 1736 01:27:26,907 --> 01:27:29,827 Speaker 1: Weekend Sports with Jason Hine News Talks EB. 1737 01:27:30,467 --> 01:27:32,347 Speaker 2: Yeah you heard that right, the All Black sevens going 1738 01:27:32,387 --> 01:27:35,507 Speaker 2: down to Uruguay. They will take on Fiji in their 1739 01:27:35,627 --> 01:27:39,507 Speaker 2: third Paul game this afternoon at about twenty past five. 1740 01:27:39,747 --> 01:27:43,987 Speaker 2: As far as the Blackfern Sevens are concerned, their third 1741 01:27:44,027 --> 01:27:47,107 Speaker 2: Poul game is against Japan, that is at eight twenty 1742 01:27:47,187 --> 01:27:50,067 Speaker 2: five tonight. Just updating you on Live Sport which is 1743 01:27:50,067 --> 01:27:54,147 Speaker 2: happening right now. And the Super Smash women's competition has 1744 01:27:54,227 --> 01:27:58,067 Speaker 2: landed in Mount Monganui where it's Northern Districts against Otago. 1745 01:27:58,547 --> 01:28:01,227 Speaker 2: Otago have won the toss in the women's game and 1746 01:28:02,027 --> 01:28:04,947 Speaker 2: they have elected to bowl first and Northern will will 1747 01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:09,627 Speaker 2: begin their runings very very shortly. Otago already threw to 1748 01:28:09,867 --> 01:28:12,347 Speaker 2: next weekend's finals. Now the way it works, of course, 1749 01:28:12,387 --> 01:28:14,947 Speaker 2: as are the top three playing the finals and both 1750 01:28:14,947 --> 01:28:17,907 Speaker 2: the women's and the men's. It's two v three next 1751 01:28:17,947 --> 01:28:21,987 Speaker 2: Saturday in Wellington for the right to face the top 1752 01:28:22,027 --> 01:28:26,267 Speaker 2: placed finisher, and that game will be on Sunday, just 1753 01:28:26,387 --> 01:28:29,827 Speaker 2: on twelve past two. Christ Church's new six hundred and 1754 01:28:29,947 --> 01:28:33,307 Speaker 2: eighty three million dollar stadium, tech KAHA or one New 1755 01:28:33,347 --> 01:28:36,347 Speaker 2: Zealand Stadium as it will be known, is well in 1756 01:28:36,427 --> 01:28:39,547 Speaker 2: truly taking shape. If you drive down Barbados Street towards 1757 01:28:39,547 --> 01:28:43,307 Speaker 2: Morehouse av or up Madrath Street, you simply cannot miss it. 1758 01:28:43,307 --> 01:28:47,667 Speaker 2: It's looking spectacular and I'm sure excitement is building for 1759 01:28:47,787 --> 01:28:51,987 Speaker 2: its opening. Let's bring in Chief Executive of Venues or TLTAHI, 1760 01:28:52,107 --> 01:28:55,467 Speaker 2: Caroline Harvey. Tia Caroline, thanks for joining us. Are you 1761 01:28:55,547 --> 01:28:58,827 Speaker 2: on target for your scheduled opening date next year? 1762 01:28:59,547 --> 01:29:03,347 Speaker 21: We we sure are yep April twenty twenty six, certainly 1763 01:29:03,427 --> 01:29:08,947 Speaker 21: about four hundred and forty days away, which is approximately. 1764 01:29:09,707 --> 01:29:12,667 Speaker 2: Spoken like somebody with a calendar on your wall that 1765 01:29:12,667 --> 01:29:15,507 Speaker 2: you're ticking off the dates on. So it's been on 1766 01:29:15,587 --> 01:29:17,907 Speaker 2: schedule the whole time. There have been no fishhooks on 1767 01:29:18,267 --> 01:29:19,067 Speaker 2: the journey so far. 1768 01:29:20,147 --> 01:29:20,347 Speaker 23: Yeah. 1769 01:29:20,387 --> 01:29:24,467 Speaker 21: Look it's treading really really well. Obviously, there's always things 1770 01:29:24,467 --> 01:29:28,227 Speaker 21: that come along that the contractors had to shift things around, 1771 01:29:28,267 --> 01:29:31,747 Speaker 21: but they've just been amazing. So the big risky stuff 1772 01:29:31,787 --> 01:29:34,627 Speaker 21: happening at the minute, which is building that roof, as 1773 01:29:35,267 --> 01:29:39,627 Speaker 21: you've seen coming out of the ground, that's the biggest 1774 01:29:39,667 --> 01:29:43,147 Speaker 21: risk in the program. And that's all tracking really, really well. 1775 01:29:43,267 --> 01:29:46,387 Speaker 21: So no, bring on April twenty twenty six. We're really 1776 01:29:46,387 --> 01:29:48,947 Speaker 21: comfortable that that date certainly on trap. 1777 01:29:49,227 --> 01:29:52,627 Speaker 2: Have you decided what the first event there will be yet? 1778 01:29:53,787 --> 01:29:56,947 Speaker 21: Oh, it's always the question, isn't it. Look what we're 1779 01:29:56,947 --> 01:29:59,547 Speaker 21: doing actually is we're designing kind of a program of 1780 01:29:59,627 --> 01:30:01,907 Speaker 21: events for that first for the three to six months. 1781 01:30:03,347 --> 01:30:05,427 Speaker 9: And the reason why we're. 1782 01:30:05,307 --> 01:30:06,987 Speaker 21: Doing that is we kind of want to do four 1783 01:30:07,067 --> 01:30:10,507 Speaker 21: main things. One is get as many people in our 1784 01:30:10,547 --> 01:30:13,067 Speaker 21: community through that building. We've waited a long time for 1785 01:30:13,147 --> 01:30:16,867 Speaker 21: this and so that's probably one of the most important things. 1786 01:30:17,347 --> 01:30:20,507 Speaker 21: We want to showcase its diversity, so it's multi use functionality. 1787 01:30:20,867 --> 01:30:22,867 Speaker 21: We want to get as many global eyeballs on that, 1788 01:30:23,027 --> 01:30:24,947 Speaker 21: so we want a lot of broadcast eyeballs on it. 1789 01:30:25,107 --> 01:30:27,827 Speaker 22: So that's Crusaders, that's. 1790 01:30:27,667 --> 01:30:30,187 Speaker 21: The Phoenix, that's one New Dner Warriors, all that guaranteed 1791 01:30:30,187 --> 01:30:32,867 Speaker 21: content that's already beer. And then we want to drive visitation, 1792 01:30:33,107 --> 01:30:35,707 Speaker 21: So that's getting those major entertainment X in there. So 1793 01:30:35,747 --> 01:30:38,147 Speaker 21: we've got a number of conversations happening at the minute 1794 01:30:38,227 --> 01:30:42,627 Speaker 21: around what those big entertainment X could be. We're not 1795 01:30:42,667 --> 01:30:46,587 Speaker 21: locking them in just yet. We've certainly got a couple 1796 01:30:46,627 --> 01:30:48,507 Speaker 21: of very active conversations underway. 1797 01:30:48,667 --> 01:30:51,547 Speaker 2: I bet you have. Are you planning any sort of 1798 01:30:52,267 --> 01:30:55,747 Speaker 2: open day for Cantabrians or those from further afield to 1799 01:30:56,507 --> 01:30:58,547 Speaker 2: wander through and have a look Not they can't just 1800 01:30:58,587 --> 01:31:00,827 Speaker 2: wander anywhere, but have you got an open day of 1801 01:31:01,067 --> 01:31:02,147 Speaker 2: any sort plan? 1802 01:31:02,907 --> 01:31:05,107 Speaker 21: Yeah, that's definitely part of the plan. So we want 1803 01:31:05,147 --> 01:31:07,547 Speaker 21: to get our community through to have a good look around. 1804 01:31:08,307 --> 01:31:11,547 Speaker 21: That gives us a really good opportunity to test all 1805 01:31:11,587 --> 01:31:13,867 Speaker 21: of the retail outlets and all of those things as well. 1806 01:31:13,947 --> 01:31:17,227 Speaker 21: So no, definitely more than one open day, that's for sure. 1807 01:31:17,507 --> 01:31:20,947 Speaker 2: Have you started talking to New Zealand Rugby about All 1808 01:31:20,987 --> 01:31:22,547 Speaker 2: Blacks test matches next year? 1809 01:31:23,587 --> 01:31:28,707 Speaker 21: Yep, that's those conversations have started absolutely. So Look, we 1810 01:31:28,747 --> 01:31:31,547 Speaker 21: haven't seen a schedule of matches, but what we really 1811 01:31:31,627 --> 01:31:34,067 Speaker 21: want to do is we've not seen a lot of 1812 01:31:34,107 --> 01:31:36,547 Speaker 21: all about rugby here and christ shoots over the last 1813 01:31:36,547 --> 01:31:39,707 Speaker 21: few years. I think we've had two and twelve years, 1814 01:31:39,747 --> 01:31:42,467 Speaker 21: which is just not enough. So we can't wait for 1815 01:31:43,107 --> 01:31:45,427 Speaker 21: to have the right in actually here in christ shoot 1816 01:31:45,467 --> 01:31:49,187 Speaker 21: so we can see our wonderful all blacks here. So yep, 1817 01:31:49,307 --> 01:31:53,147 Speaker 21: definitely start of those conversations, very very active, and I 1818 01:31:53,187 --> 01:31:55,147 Speaker 21: know that they can't wait to get under that root either. 1819 01:31:55,307 --> 01:31:59,027 Speaker 2: Absolutely right. You'll go into a competitive bidding process, won't you? 1820 01:31:59,067 --> 01:32:02,507 Speaker 2: With other New Zealand venues on sporting events and cultural events. 1821 01:32:02,867 --> 01:32:07,027 Speaker 2: How confident are you that you'll be a really wrong bidder, 1822 01:32:07,107 --> 01:32:09,147 Speaker 2: if not the strongest bidder. 1823 01:32:09,947 --> 01:32:13,387 Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, we're really confident. We're really lucky. We've got 1824 01:32:14,667 --> 01:32:18,107 Speaker 21: we're going to have the most premium stadium in this country, 1825 01:32:19,267 --> 01:32:22,827 Speaker 21: and it's not only going to be innovative in design, 1826 01:32:22,907 --> 01:32:25,467 Speaker 21: but it's going to be really really uniquely local and 1827 01:32:25,507 --> 01:32:28,627 Speaker 21: that's an awesome combination. But what we've also got is 1828 01:32:28,707 --> 01:32:32,467 Speaker 21: city infrastructure to support high distation. So we've got a 1829 01:32:32,507 --> 01:32:36,387 Speaker 21: great international airport, we've got plenty of accommodation, and so 1830 01:32:36,467 --> 01:32:39,947 Speaker 21: we're really well positioned to maximize this opportunity for our 1831 01:32:39,987 --> 01:32:41,107 Speaker 21: city and about time. 1832 01:32:42,107 --> 01:32:45,507 Speaker 2: Indeed, look I'm looking again, spoken like someone with four 1833 01:32:45,547 --> 01:32:47,627 Speaker 2: hundred and forty days to tick off on her calendar. 1834 01:32:48,507 --> 01:32:51,387 Speaker 2: Another part of it is it right in the city, Caroline. 1835 01:32:51,587 --> 01:32:53,907 Speaker 2: I mean you simply cannot miss it as you as 1836 01:32:53,907 --> 01:32:56,947 Speaker 2: I say, driving down Barbados or up Madras. It's just 1837 01:32:57,187 --> 01:33:00,667 Speaker 2: rising right there in front of everybody. How how big 1838 01:33:00,707 --> 01:33:03,307 Speaker 2: a feature is it that it is so central? 1839 01:33:03,947 --> 01:33:07,747 Speaker 21: Oh, a huge feature, obviously, Lanka. A part was really 1840 01:33:07,827 --> 01:33:09,787 Speaker 21: well positioned, but it was a bit of a treat 1841 01:33:09,867 --> 01:33:13,707 Speaker 21: walking from the central city out to Lancaster Park. But 1842 01:33:14,227 --> 01:33:17,107 Speaker 21: this is right in the heart of the city. You're 1843 01:33:17,107 --> 01:33:20,187 Speaker 21: four hundred meters from the bus interchange, you're probably less 1844 01:33:20,187 --> 01:33:22,107 Speaker 21: than a k from the terrace. 1845 01:33:22,587 --> 01:33:23,347 Speaker 9: So if you just. 1846 01:33:23,387 --> 01:33:28,027 Speaker 21: Imagine that activity around the city, the ability just to 1847 01:33:28,187 --> 01:33:30,747 Speaker 21: walk to the stadium, you get the lights, you get 1848 01:33:30,747 --> 01:33:34,267 Speaker 21: that feeling of excitement as you walk towards the stadium. 1849 01:33:34,347 --> 01:33:36,187 Speaker 6: Like it just as perfectly. 1850 01:33:35,707 --> 01:33:38,707 Speaker 21: Positioned, and it will also activate that part of the 1851 01:33:38,747 --> 01:33:40,507 Speaker 21: city as well, you know, that sort of eastern part 1852 01:33:40,507 --> 01:33:41,907 Speaker 21: of christ Huts that really needs it. 1853 01:33:42,867 --> 01:33:44,467 Speaker 2: We're obviously a sports show, but I did want to 1854 01:33:44,467 --> 01:33:48,547 Speaker 2: ask you about concerts because clearly they're part of what 1855 01:33:48,667 --> 01:33:51,347 Speaker 2: DECA will be all about as well. Can you tell 1856 01:33:51,427 --> 01:33:54,667 Speaker 2: us what you envisage the concert experience to be like 1857 01:33:55,267 --> 01:33:56,907 Speaker 2: at the new venue. 1858 01:33:57,267 --> 01:33:59,547 Speaker 21: Yeah, well look, I mean obviously having a roof to 1859 01:33:59,627 --> 01:34:03,507 Speaker 21: game changer. So look, it's going to be cold in 1860 01:34:03,547 --> 01:34:05,587 Speaker 21: there when it's cold outside, and we're warm in there 1861 01:34:05,627 --> 01:34:07,307 Speaker 21: when it's warm out, but you're not going to get 1862 01:34:07,347 --> 01:34:07,707 Speaker 21: rained on. 1863 01:34:07,867 --> 01:34:08,467 Speaker 6: It's not going to be. 1864 01:34:08,467 --> 01:34:12,187 Speaker 21: Windy, and that not only for the guest experience, is 1865 01:34:12,227 --> 01:34:14,827 Speaker 21: going to change the game, but also for an artist's 1866 01:34:14,827 --> 01:34:18,147 Speaker 21: performing and for a promoter bring an artist here. You know, 1867 01:34:18,227 --> 01:34:22,467 Speaker 21: if you think about you know those Dalton John concerts 1868 01:34:22,467 --> 01:34:25,547 Speaker 21: for example in Auckland, it was such a nightmare for 1869 01:34:25,627 --> 01:34:27,787 Speaker 21: that city to miss out on that because of the weather. 1870 01:34:27,987 --> 01:34:30,627 Speaker 21: So we're just not going to have those issues. So 1871 01:34:30,667 --> 01:34:34,187 Speaker 21: the guest experience will be far enhanced. And the cool 1872 01:34:34,187 --> 01:34:36,587 Speaker 21: thing about one New Zealand Stadium is we'll do large 1873 01:34:36,627 --> 01:34:38,827 Speaker 21: concerts that around that, so that at thirty six maybe 1874 01:34:38,827 --> 01:34:43,027 Speaker 21: pushing on forty thousand, But then there's also a smaller 1875 01:34:43,067 --> 01:34:47,627 Speaker 21: concert mode which creates an arena style concert at the 1876 01:34:47,667 --> 01:34:50,107 Speaker 21: southern end of the stadium, so will be the largest 1877 01:34:50,147 --> 01:34:53,187 Speaker 21: indoor arena in New Zealand at fourteen fifteen thousand. 1878 01:34:54,547 --> 01:34:58,067 Speaker 2: Incredible And back to sport, how are your conversations with 1879 01:34:58,467 --> 01:35:01,667 Speaker 2: the Crusaders. I get the feeling Colin Mansbridge will be 1880 01:35:01,707 --> 01:35:04,707 Speaker 2: a guy you speak to fairly regularly because obviously they'll 1881 01:35:04,867 --> 01:35:06,227 Speaker 2: have a new home at Tica. 1882 01:35:06,427 --> 01:35:09,467 Speaker 21: Huh oh. I know they're so excited and we're so 1883 01:35:09,547 --> 01:35:11,827 Speaker 21: excited to see them run out for the first time there. 1884 01:35:11,867 --> 01:35:14,227 Speaker 21: They've waited a long time to have a home that 1885 01:35:14,307 --> 01:35:17,827 Speaker 21: they didn't know to be the most successful super rugby 1886 01:35:17,827 --> 01:35:21,947 Speaker 21: club by a country mile. They've had a temporary stadium 1887 01:35:22,027 --> 01:35:24,547 Speaker 21: and albeit it's done off an absolute service over the years, 1888 01:35:25,027 --> 01:35:28,787 Speaker 21: it's about time they had a venue fitting of their 1889 01:35:29,987 --> 01:35:34,827 Speaker 21: wonderful kind of performance. So yeah, Collins pumped, the team's pumped. 1890 01:35:34,827 --> 01:35:36,547 Speaker 21: We just can't wait to get in there. And we're 1891 01:35:36,547 --> 01:35:38,907 Speaker 21: doing some different things around our partnership as well, which 1892 01:35:38,907 --> 01:35:39,747 Speaker 21: is really exciting. 1893 01:35:40,347 --> 01:35:43,187 Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, a temporary stadium has has been 1894 01:35:43,267 --> 01:35:45,627 Speaker 2: used in the meantime. There's a Phoenix game there this 1895 01:35:45,707 --> 01:35:49,147 Speaker 2: afternoon at Apollo Projects Stadium out at Addington. What's the 1896 01:35:49,187 --> 01:35:50,427 Speaker 2: future for that venue. 1897 01:35:51,707 --> 01:35:56,507 Speaker 21: Look, it will be turning thirteen this year. We will 1898 01:35:56,547 --> 01:35:59,987 Speaker 21: have a little thirteenth birthday celebration and it's as a said, 1899 01:36:00,027 --> 01:36:03,227 Speaker 21: it's done as a service, but look that the intention 1900 01:36:03,427 --> 01:36:07,067 Speaker 21: is that the stadium will no longer be venues. It'll 1901 01:36:07,067 --> 01:36:09,907 Speaker 21: likely be decommissioned and the council decide what to do 1902 01:36:09,987 --> 01:36:13,627 Speaker 21: with the land. It's a great piece of land obviously 1903 01:36:13,667 --> 01:36:15,947 Speaker 21: in a really good location, so I'm sure it's a 1904 01:36:15,987 --> 01:36:18,827 Speaker 21: balue to our city. But yeah, I think we will 1905 01:36:18,867 --> 01:36:21,587 Speaker 21: soon Whilst we'll cherish the memories of it, I think 1906 01:36:21,627 --> 01:36:24,307 Speaker 21: we'll soon put it in the back of our minds 1907 01:36:24,307 --> 01:36:26,147 Speaker 21: and enjoyed a new one. 1908 01:36:25,667 --> 01:36:29,187 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, Carolina. Just to finish between now and the 1909 01:36:29,227 --> 01:36:31,587 Speaker 2: opening in April of next year, what are the major landmarks? 1910 01:36:31,587 --> 01:36:33,987 Speaker 2: What are the things that you know that I guess 1911 01:36:34,267 --> 01:36:37,427 Speaker 2: you're looking forward to seeing ticked off ahead of the 1912 01:36:37,427 --> 01:36:40,827 Speaker 2: grand opening in around fourteen months fifteen months time. 1913 01:36:41,667 --> 01:36:45,187 Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, I think construction wise, getting that roof finished 1914 01:36:45,947 --> 01:36:48,347 Speaker 21: is a major milestone that's coming up in the next 1915 01:36:48,347 --> 01:36:51,147 Speaker 21: few months, and then obviously all that intern will fit 1916 01:36:51,227 --> 01:36:54,387 Speaker 21: out and getting the turf started. But for us, we'll 1917 01:36:54,427 --> 01:36:58,627 Speaker 21: go on sale for corporate hospitality in April, and that's 1918 01:36:58,667 --> 01:37:01,027 Speaker 21: quite a bit milestone for us because obviously naming rights 1919 01:37:01,107 --> 01:37:04,067 Speaker 21: was a big deal. We've done our poorage arrangements are 1920 01:37:04,147 --> 01:37:07,547 Speaker 21: taketing and content and all those things, but getting corporate 1921 01:37:07,587 --> 01:37:10,667 Speaker 21: hospitality on sale means that that's the first time people 1922 01:37:10,707 --> 01:37:12,707 Speaker 21: in our community and outside of it can actually get 1923 01:37:12,747 --> 01:37:15,667 Speaker 21: a piece of the pie. And we've got a really 1924 01:37:15,747 --> 01:37:17,787 Speaker 21: high demand. I think we've got about three hundred on 1925 01:37:17,827 --> 01:37:19,987 Speaker 21: a waiting list at the minute, and that's just a 1926 01:37:20,027 --> 01:37:22,387 Speaker 21: sweet So we've only got twenty three of those, so 1927 01:37:23,427 --> 01:37:26,907 Speaker 21: it's a good problem to have. But yeah, so getting 1928 01:37:26,907 --> 01:37:29,987 Speaker 21: that on sale and then obviously announcing those first events, 1929 01:37:30,627 --> 01:37:34,987 Speaker 21: major entertainment events, will be a big milestone as well. Yeah, 1930 01:37:35,067 --> 01:37:37,427 Speaker 21: so lots to look forward to. But that four hundred 1931 01:37:37,467 --> 01:37:39,227 Speaker 21: and forty days is going to go quite quickly, so 1932 01:37:39,267 --> 01:37:40,107 Speaker 21: we've got couny to do. 1933 01:37:40,907 --> 01:37:43,547 Speaker 2: And will there be stadium memberships available? Can a person 1934 01:37:43,547 --> 01:37:45,787 Speaker 2: buy a stadium membership? Will that be available? 1935 01:37:46,587 --> 01:37:49,427 Speaker 21: Yeah, definitely. So obviously the Crusaders will have their membership, 1936 01:37:50,107 --> 01:37:53,467 Speaker 21: and we'll have an integrated membership with the Crusaders, so 1937 01:37:53,747 --> 01:37:55,427 Speaker 21: you'll be able to buy a membership that will have 1938 01:37:55,467 --> 01:37:59,107 Speaker 21: guaranteed content the likes of the Crusaders, ken Ity, Rugby One, 1939 01:37:59,187 --> 01:38:01,667 Speaker 21: US Young Warriors, the Phoenax. All those partnerships have got 1940 01:38:01,667 --> 01:38:06,707 Speaker 21: locked in. And then obviously the first option to just 1941 01:38:06,707 --> 01:38:10,587 Speaker 21: for concerts and those things that aren't lockdown every year. 1942 01:38:11,267 --> 01:38:13,387 Speaker 2: Excellent. Thanks so much for the update, Caroline. It's an 1943 01:38:13,387 --> 01:38:16,547 Speaker 2: exciting time. I'm sure the days will at times go fast, 1944 01:38:16,587 --> 01:38:19,347 Speaker 2: but at times we'll drag as we head towards April 1945 01:38:19,387 --> 01:38:21,027 Speaker 2: of next year. But can't wait to see it open. 1946 01:38:21,187 --> 01:38:23,787 Speaker 2: Thank you for providing us with an update this afternoon. 1947 01:38:24,267 --> 01:38:26,267 Speaker 21: No no worries, thank you, Thank. 1948 01:38:26,107 --> 01:38:29,347 Speaker 2: You, Caroline. Caroline Harvey Tea the chief executive of Venues 1949 01:38:29,547 --> 01:38:32,227 Speaker 2: or tul tahi. Anybody who comes to christ Here's these 1950 01:38:32,307 --> 01:38:34,747 Speaker 2: days as a visitor and then comes back to wherever 1951 01:38:34,747 --> 01:38:37,427 Speaker 2: they were from talks about Hey, I can see it, 1952 01:38:37,507 --> 01:38:41,907 Speaker 2: I can see it. And for Cantabrians, you must just 1953 01:38:42,067 --> 01:38:45,747 Speaker 2: be amped about this because it has been a very 1954 01:38:45,787 --> 01:38:48,267 Speaker 2: long time. What did Caroline say, thirteen years? Ye it 1955 01:38:48,307 --> 01:38:51,667 Speaker 2: is you just work forwards, don't you? From twenty eleven 1956 01:38:53,547 --> 01:38:57,307 Speaker 2: As to the lack of a decent size venue in 1957 01:38:57,347 --> 01:39:00,147 Speaker 2: the Garden City, great to know that after all this 1958 01:39:00,227 --> 01:39:03,227 Speaker 2: time and it has taken a while, that it is 1959 01:39:03,267 --> 01:39:07,027 Speaker 2: going to be available for use from a next year. 1960 01:39:07,147 --> 01:39:09,187 Speaker 2: Just can't wait to see the all blacks play there, 1961 01:39:09,387 --> 01:39:12,787 Speaker 2: the Crusaders obviously, Phoenix, the Warriors and everything else that 1962 01:39:12,827 --> 01:39:15,867 Speaker 2: gets gets scheduled in there. And that's just the sport, 1963 01:39:16,067 --> 01:39:20,267 Speaker 2: the cultural events, concerts and such like. The fine folk 1964 01:39:20,307 --> 01:39:22,827 Speaker 2: of Canterbury of it to wait far too long for this, 1965 01:39:23,547 --> 01:39:26,387 Speaker 2: So good to know that it is only another four 1966 01:39:26,427 --> 01:39:29,107 Speaker 2: hundred odd days to wait and you'll have your bright, 1967 01:39:29,307 --> 01:39:32,667 Speaker 2: shiny new stadium in downtown christ Church. Two twenty three. 1968 01:39:32,747 --> 01:39:34,027 Speaker 2: Let's take a break. When we come back, We're off 1969 01:39:34,027 --> 01:39:36,507 Speaker 2: to Allislee the cutu Ka Millions today, Dad Taylor from 1970 01:39:36,507 --> 01:39:37,467 Speaker 2: the tab with us. 1971 01:39:38,267 --> 01:39:41,827 Speaker 1: The voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend 1972 01:39:41,907 --> 01:39:45,747 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's 1973 01:39:45,787 --> 01:39:47,787 Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks V. 1974 01:39:48,547 --> 01:39:51,307 Speaker 2: Two twenty six. Cutteramillions Night at Ellislie one of the 1975 01:39:51,307 --> 01:39:53,987 Speaker 2: biggest meetings on the New Zealand racing calendar. The first 1976 01:39:54,147 --> 01:39:57,347 Speaker 2: of a six race schedule jumps at four thirty eight 1977 01:39:57,387 --> 01:39:59,787 Speaker 2: this afternoon. The two key races on the card are 1978 01:39:59,787 --> 01:40:01,667 Speaker 2: the Cutter a Million's two year Old and three year 1979 01:40:01,707 --> 01:40:05,147 Speaker 2: Old Races four and five. Let's bring in Thad Taylor 1980 01:40:05,147 --> 01:40:07,907 Speaker 2: from the tab. He must be like a kid on 1981 01:40:07,987 --> 01:40:10,227 Speaker 2: Christmas morning? How big is this meeting for the tap? 1982 01:40:10,827 --> 01:40:11,027 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1983 01:40:11,027 --> 01:40:13,987 Speaker 13: This is clearly the biggest domestic meeting we have now, Jason, 1984 01:40:14,067 --> 01:40:17,107 Speaker 13: good afternoon to you there. Yeah, it's a fantastic meeting 1985 01:40:17,107 --> 01:40:19,707 Speaker 13: and it's just grown and grown over the last sort 1986 01:40:19,707 --> 01:40:21,667 Speaker 13: of five or so years into a bit of a 1987 01:40:21,667 --> 01:40:25,787 Speaker 13: behemoth in terms of New Zealand racing. Obviously, those respected 1988 01:40:25,867 --> 01:40:27,627 Speaker 13: days that we all sort of know and love, like 1989 01:40:27,707 --> 01:40:30,427 Speaker 13: Derby Day, New Zealand Cup Day and the like is 1990 01:40:30,467 --> 01:40:34,187 Speaker 13: still strong, but this brings a whole another flavor. Five 1991 01:40:34,307 --> 01:40:36,947 Speaker 13: million dollars up for grabs over six races here at 1992 01:40:37,387 --> 01:40:40,347 Speaker 13: HQ to nine. I'm just sitting as we speak Piney 1993 01:40:40,387 --> 01:40:43,067 Speaker 13: in the CEO's office at Autand Racing Club, just looking 1994 01:40:43,067 --> 01:40:45,827 Speaker 13: at the window here, just watching the fever start to 1995 01:40:45,947 --> 01:40:47,587 Speaker 13: build here on track at Ellerslie. 1996 01:40:47,707 --> 01:40:49,987 Speaker 2: It was very good man the see and good of 1997 01:40:50,067 --> 01:40:53,707 Speaker 2: him to offer up his prime position for this radio 1998 01:40:53,787 --> 01:40:56,467 Speaker 2: channel like it. The two key races on the cut, 1999 01:40:56,467 --> 01:40:57,827 Speaker 2: as I say, the two year old and three year 2000 01:40:57,827 --> 01:41:00,787 Speaker 2: old characters. These are the two racers for horses that 2001 01:41:00,867 --> 01:41:03,027 Speaker 2: were sold or offered for sale at the New Zealand 2002 01:41:03,027 --> 01:41:04,467 Speaker 2: Bloodstock color of sales. 2003 01:41:04,227 --> 01:41:06,947 Speaker 13: Is that right, That's absolutely correct. The sales are on 2004 01:41:06,987 --> 01:41:10,827 Speaker 13: the back of the Karaka Meeting. Sales begin tomorrow out 2005 01:41:10,827 --> 01:41:14,107 Speaker 13: at Karaka and they go Sunday Monday and further the 2006 01:41:14,147 --> 01:41:16,947 Speaker 13: group the book one sales Sunday Monday. Horses that have 2007 01:41:17,027 --> 01:41:20,387 Speaker 13: brought through the Karaka sales ring eligible for the Karaka 2008 01:41:20,467 --> 01:41:22,867 Speaker 13: two year old and three year old racers. So it's 2009 01:41:22,907 --> 01:41:25,827 Speaker 13: a great concept. It's not a new concept. The Magic 2010 01:41:25,867 --> 01:41:27,827 Speaker 13: Millions are in the Gold Coast and the like, they 2011 01:41:27,867 --> 01:41:30,467 Speaker 13: have done something like this, But this is our Kadaka 2012 01:41:30,547 --> 01:41:34,227 Speaker 13: Million and as I say, it's right up there in 2013 01:41:34,307 --> 01:41:36,707 Speaker 13: terms of domestic New Zealand racing. So it's really gone 2014 01:41:36,707 --> 01:41:38,867 Speaker 13: from strength to strength, as I say, So if you 2015 01:41:38,947 --> 01:41:41,267 Speaker 13: go out there, I won't be opening the wallet unfortunately, 2016 01:41:41,267 --> 01:41:44,187 Speaker 13: pine out there at Karaka over the next couple of days, 2017 01:41:44,227 --> 01:41:46,547 Speaker 13: I've just come up a couple of hundred thousand short. 2018 01:41:46,587 --> 01:41:49,427 Speaker 13: But it's a great atmosphere out there as well. If 2019 01:41:49,467 --> 01:41:50,627 Speaker 13: you do get a chance to go and sit in 2020 01:41:50,667 --> 01:41:54,107 Speaker 13: the sales ring for an hour or so, that is 2021 01:41:54,147 --> 01:41:55,907 Speaker 13: a lot of fun in itself. There's the action of 2022 01:41:55,907 --> 01:41:59,147 Speaker 13: plenty even after the racing's finished tonight, over the next 2023 01:41:59,147 --> 01:41:59,787 Speaker 13: couple of days. 2024 01:41:59,867 --> 01:42:02,427 Speaker 2: Now, this is the first of the two World Paul 2025 01:42:02,587 --> 01:42:05,067 Speaker 2: meetings in New Zealand the other ones champions Day on 2026 01:42:05,107 --> 01:42:07,147 Speaker 2: the eighth of March. Can you just play what that 2027 01:42:07,267 --> 01:42:07,987 Speaker 2: means for us? 2028 01:42:08,507 --> 01:42:11,387 Speaker 13: Yeah, So the world Pool is a totalizata pool, or 2029 01:42:11,427 --> 01:42:13,467 Speaker 13: a pool where everyone's money's lumped together. And we have 2030 01:42:13,547 --> 01:42:17,227 Speaker 13: twenty five different countries or regions around the world that 2031 01:42:17,307 --> 01:42:19,867 Speaker 13: will be betting into the same tote pool as we 2032 01:42:19,907 --> 01:42:23,627 Speaker 13: call them a totalizata pool, then this just means that 2033 01:42:23,667 --> 01:42:25,227 Speaker 13: we get a far larger pool. We got a lot 2034 01:42:25,227 --> 01:42:28,107 Speaker 13: more eyes on our product as well, So it's a 2035 01:42:28,107 --> 01:42:30,507 Speaker 13: real coup for the ta B. It's a real cop 2036 01:42:30,547 --> 01:42:33,187 Speaker 13: for the Auckland Racing Club to have a World Pool meeting. 2037 01:42:33,267 --> 01:42:35,427 Speaker 13: So that will be very very interesting to watch on 2038 01:42:35,427 --> 01:42:38,947 Speaker 13: the last three races tonight. The pools will be huge, 2039 01:42:38,987 --> 01:42:41,347 Speaker 13: The trifective pools will be big, the treble pools will 2040 01:42:41,387 --> 01:42:44,187 Speaker 13: be big, the double pools will be big, all boosted 2041 01:42:44,227 --> 01:42:48,067 Speaker 13: by twenty five different racing regions around the world betting 2042 01:42:48,067 --> 01:42:50,947 Speaker 13: into the same pool. So it's exciting. It'll be fun 2043 01:42:50,987 --> 01:42:53,347 Speaker 13: to watch from you know, from my standpoint of the 2044 01:42:53,707 --> 01:42:56,147 Speaker 13: sort of a student of the game, just to watch 2045 01:42:56,187 --> 01:42:59,347 Speaker 13: how the pool reacts over the next few hours. So 2046 01:42:59,467 --> 01:43:01,307 Speaker 13: that's going to be exciting, but it's great for customers 2047 01:43:01,347 --> 01:43:01,667 Speaker 13: as well. 2048 01:43:01,707 --> 01:43:02,027 Speaker 15: It's gonse. 2049 01:43:02,067 --> 01:43:05,587 Speaker 13: It gives them some sort of certainty around their dividends 2050 01:43:05,627 --> 01:43:08,507 Speaker 13: and the probably increased dividends and trifectors and trebles, and 2051 01:43:08,547 --> 01:43:11,227 Speaker 13: certainly they'll be very very stable with the amount of 2052 01:43:11,227 --> 01:43:13,507 Speaker 13: liquidity in that World Pool. So it's a great thing 2053 01:43:13,547 --> 01:43:16,787 Speaker 13: for New Zealand racing and above all things else, it 2054 01:43:16,867 --> 01:43:19,347 Speaker 13: means is eyes right around the world are on this 2055 01:43:19,427 --> 01:43:22,147 Speaker 13: Karaka meeting tonight at Elslie and the last. 2056 01:43:22,027 --> 01:43:24,467 Speaker 2: Race of the night seven forty three tonight, the kind 2057 01:43:24,467 --> 01:43:27,067 Speaker 2: of Group one sprint race these seven hundred thousand dollars railway. 2058 01:43:27,747 --> 01:43:30,587 Speaker 2: Has that been moved to this day is what's happened 2059 01:43:30,627 --> 01:43:30,827 Speaker 2: with that? 2060 01:43:31,267 --> 01:43:34,187 Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly has been moved to this day. And to 2061 01:43:34,347 --> 01:43:36,867 Speaker 13: have a World Pool meeting, or to qualify to be 2062 01:43:36,907 --> 01:43:39,507 Speaker 13: a World Pool meeting, you need a Group one race 2063 01:43:39,587 --> 01:43:42,227 Speaker 13: on your card. So this has been moved to create 2064 01:43:42,267 --> 01:43:44,467 Speaker 13: the ability to have the World Pool, among other things 2065 01:43:44,507 --> 01:43:46,747 Speaker 13: sit You know, obviously they're always working on the calendar 2066 01:43:46,787 --> 01:43:48,987 Speaker 13: and trying to find the right sort of balance around 2067 01:43:48,987 --> 01:43:50,547 Speaker 13: that as well, but that is certainly one of the 2068 01:43:50,587 --> 01:43:54,107 Speaker 13: main reasons that the railway has been moved to tonight 2069 01:43:54,267 --> 01:43:56,507 Speaker 13: and that means we can have a worldpool on those 2070 01:43:56,587 --> 01:43:59,027 Speaker 13: last three races. So jee's a great addition of the 2071 01:43:59,107 --> 01:44:02,667 Speaker 13: Railway piney my goodness me. You know the Karaka two 2072 01:44:02,667 --> 01:44:04,867 Speaker 13: and three year old are the feature races on the night. 2073 01:44:04,907 --> 01:44:07,227 Speaker 13: But you know, if you could only watched one race 2074 01:44:07,227 --> 01:44:10,107 Speaker 13: on the night, it probably would be the Sustema Railway 2075 01:44:10,147 --> 01:44:12,907 Speaker 13: Race number six on the card. We've got two gun 2076 01:44:13,307 --> 01:44:15,787 Speaker 13: three year old Phillies are going up against each other, 2077 01:44:15,867 --> 01:44:19,947 Speaker 13: Alabama lasting captured by Love against the old season war 2078 01:44:20,027 --> 01:44:23,267 Speaker 13: Hawse sprinters, the wait for Age sprinters, the likes of 2079 01:44:23,467 --> 01:44:28,467 Speaker 13: y tac lu Berroon, Babylon, Berlin Croshetti as well. So 2080 01:44:28,667 --> 01:44:30,627 Speaker 13: that is going to be extremely exciting. 2081 01:44:30,707 --> 01:44:30,907 Speaker 7: Race. 2082 01:44:31,227 --> 01:44:33,387 Speaker 13: Are the last race on the card, the Railway Sprint, 2083 01:44:33,427 --> 01:44:36,267 Speaker 13: they'll be going for it race number six there hours. 2084 01:44:36,467 --> 01:44:38,107 Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to races four and five. As 2085 01:44:38,107 --> 01:44:40,467 Speaker 2: you say, the A Million's two year old and three 2086 01:44:40,507 --> 01:44:43,347 Speaker 2: year old. Have you got any advice for us around 2087 01:44:43,347 --> 01:44:43,747 Speaker 2: those two? 2088 01:44:44,347 --> 01:44:44,547 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2089 01:44:44,587 --> 01:44:49,347 Speaker 13: Look, TRKW, the stable TRKW have an extremely good record 2090 01:44:49,387 --> 01:44:52,667 Speaker 13: manager David Alice, trained by Mark Walker and Sam Burgess, 2091 01:44:52,707 --> 01:44:55,507 Speaker 13: and they have an incredible record in the race. They've 2092 01:44:55,547 --> 01:44:58,627 Speaker 13: got four sorry three horses in the race. Now, they 2093 01:44:58,627 --> 01:45:01,627 Speaker 13: did have four. The first emergency was also their runner. 2094 01:45:01,667 --> 01:45:03,187 Speaker 13: It didn't quite make the fields. So they have three 2095 01:45:03,267 --> 01:45:05,267 Speaker 13: runners in the race. They have two of the three 2096 01:45:05,307 --> 01:45:08,587 Speaker 13: favorites one. I think I'm not even out sure how 2097 01:45:08,587 --> 01:45:11,147 Speaker 13: many Karraka two year old racers at one. I think 2098 01:45:11,187 --> 01:45:13,467 Speaker 13: they had seven in a row at one point. And 2099 01:45:13,507 --> 01:45:15,747 Speaker 13: they hold the two favorites there and it's a Bravery 2100 01:45:15,787 --> 01:45:18,427 Speaker 13: born and also lar de Rada, and they get the 2101 01:45:18,507 --> 01:45:21,867 Speaker 13: gun Australian jockeys to come over and ride them as well, 2102 01:45:21,947 --> 01:45:24,587 Speaker 13: and Craig Williams and Blake Shin and the like, so 2103 01:45:24,627 --> 01:45:26,587 Speaker 13: they lose nothing there. Then we had the barrier drawer 2104 01:45:26,587 --> 01:45:29,067 Speaker 13: on Wednesday and they drew barrier two and barrier five. 2105 01:45:29,187 --> 01:45:31,787 Speaker 13: So if they needed any more favors Tiakaw, they got 2106 01:45:31,787 --> 01:45:33,547 Speaker 13: them through that barrier draw and I can tell you 2107 01:45:33,747 --> 01:45:36,827 Speaker 13: that they don't. So look it'd be pretty mad, I 2108 01:45:36,827 --> 01:45:39,547 Speaker 13: say mad that you know, you might do worse than 2109 01:45:39,587 --> 01:45:41,827 Speaker 13: backing tiak out in the two year old race. Too 2110 01:45:41,867 --> 01:45:44,747 Speaker 13: Sweet as the CD Raider trained by Ruyd And Burgerson, 2111 01:45:44,907 --> 01:45:47,347 Speaker 13: father of Sam Burgesson who trades at Tiaco. It's a 2112 01:45:47,347 --> 01:45:50,147 Speaker 13: bit of a connection there. She's a CD raider that 2113 01:45:50,787 --> 01:45:53,467 Speaker 13: brings the right form one very well last time, but 2114 01:45:54,307 --> 01:45:57,067 Speaker 13: drew barrier fifteen and will come into barrier fourteen with 2115 01:45:57,147 --> 01:46:00,347 Speaker 13: the scratching of the emergency, but the outside barrier which 2116 01:46:00,387 --> 01:46:04,427 Speaker 13: will make two sweets life a little bit difficult. So yeah, 2117 01:46:04,467 --> 01:46:07,587 Speaker 13: potentially looked at tiakaw In that two year old that's 2118 01:46:07,667 --> 01:46:08,387 Speaker 13: racing number. 2119 01:46:08,147 --> 01:46:10,707 Speaker 2: Four pinting good stuff all right. Well, in terms of 2120 01:46:10,747 --> 01:46:15,107 Speaker 2: a crowd at Ellieslie today, presumably it'll be large, good day. 2121 01:46:16,107 --> 01:46:19,107 Speaker 13: Ah, there's no atmosphere like it, and boys get paid. 2122 01:46:19,107 --> 01:46:21,747 Speaker 13: It'll be out here. It's a group of boys and 2123 01:46:22,547 --> 01:46:24,987 Speaker 13: girls that come out and they have a massive function 2124 01:46:25,067 --> 01:46:27,627 Speaker 13: out here, and they'll have a hosted pot or basically 2125 01:46:27,667 --> 01:46:30,147 Speaker 13: a punter's club run out of here of the day 2126 01:46:30,187 --> 01:46:32,427 Speaker 13: and they'll have a few hundred thousand that they'll be 2127 01:46:32,467 --> 01:46:35,627 Speaker 13: trying to attack me with during the day. They bring 2128 01:46:35,627 --> 01:46:39,267 Speaker 13: an incredible atmosphere the chance. There is no race meaning 2129 01:46:39,347 --> 01:46:41,427 Speaker 13: like it in New Zealand. So if you haven't managed 2130 01:46:41,467 --> 01:46:43,267 Speaker 13: to make it to a Kadak a million, I would 2131 01:46:43,267 --> 01:46:45,507 Speaker 13: suggest you put that on your bucket list. Certainly in 2132 01:46:45,587 --> 01:46:47,707 Speaker 13: terms of New Zealand domestic racing, it would be the 2133 01:46:47,827 --> 01:46:49,987 Speaker 13: event to come to. I'm just looking around at all 2134 01:46:49,987 --> 01:46:54,027 Speaker 13: the tents, the plenty of hospitality. I'm sure the sold 2135 01:46:54,027 --> 01:46:57,067 Speaker 13: out signs will be up well and truly here. So yeah, 2136 01:46:57,067 --> 01:46:59,507 Speaker 13: there's no atmosphere like Kadaka Million and the stands will 2137 01:46:59,507 --> 01:47:03,387 Speaker 13: be erupting to come around sort of six o'clock, seven 2138 01:47:03,387 --> 01:47:04,067 Speaker 13: o'clock tonight. 2139 01:47:04,347 --> 01:47:06,667 Speaker 2: Exciting stuff. Thanks indeed for your time as all. Dad. 2140 01:47:06,667 --> 01:47:10,347 Speaker 2: You better give Paul Wilcox his office back and we'll 2141 01:47:10,387 --> 01:47:11,427 Speaker 2: catch up again soon. 2142 01:47:11,467 --> 01:47:11,667 Speaker 7: Mate. 2143 01:47:12,027 --> 01:47:13,787 Speaker 13: He's starting to give me the evil wife finey, so 2144 01:47:14,107 --> 01:47:15,787 Speaker 13: I'd better get out of here. Thanks for having me 2145 01:47:15,827 --> 01:47:18,427 Speaker 13: and good luck. If anyone's having a go tonight. 2146 01:47:18,267 --> 01:47:20,227 Speaker 2: You're a good man. Thanks that Taylor there from the 2147 01:47:20,267 --> 01:47:22,867 Speaker 2: tav You can just tell the excitement that's building for 2148 01:47:22,947 --> 01:47:25,827 Speaker 2: the Kulaka Millions at alice Ley. First race and a 2149 01:47:25,867 --> 01:47:29,067 Speaker 2: six race schedule jumps at four thirty eight. Over five 2150 01:47:29,347 --> 01:47:32,707 Speaker 2: million in in stakes up for grabs on the day 2151 01:47:32,747 --> 01:47:36,427 Speaker 2: in the first of two World Pool meetings. Massive boon 2152 01:47:36,507 --> 01:47:39,227 Speaker 2: for the industry and an indication the progress being made 2153 01:47:39,467 --> 01:47:43,267 Speaker 2: in New Zealand racing in recent years. Twenty six away 2154 01:47:43,307 --> 01:47:45,507 Speaker 2: from three, let's get a breakaway when we come back 2155 01:47:45,827 --> 01:47:48,387 Speaker 2: back to christ Church, we come where the Wellington Phoenix 2156 01:47:48,467 --> 01:47:50,907 Speaker 2: are in under two and a half hours now they'll 2157 01:47:50,947 --> 01:47:53,947 Speaker 2: be taking on the Central Coast Mariners at Apollo Projects 2158 01:47:53,987 --> 01:47:56,267 Speaker 2: Stadium out in Addington. You'd have to think actually that 2159 01:47:56,587 --> 01:47:58,907 Speaker 2: the next time the Phoenix come back, they'll they'll time 2160 01:47:58,987 --> 01:48:02,227 Speaker 2: that in with the opening of the new stadium here. 2161 01:48:02,427 --> 01:48:04,787 Speaker 2: They'll try and push a game back I guess into 2162 01:48:04,827 --> 01:48:07,507 Speaker 2: the April May window. It'll be the Phoenix who have 2163 01:48:07,547 --> 01:48:09,867 Speaker 2: one of the first events at the new stadium. Anyway, 2164 01:48:09,907 --> 01:48:12,867 Speaker 2: this afternoon they're at Addington up against the Mariners. We'll 2165 01:48:12,907 --> 01:48:15,867 Speaker 2: get you inside the Wellington Phoenix camp when we come back. 2166 01:48:17,227 --> 01:48:20,987 Speaker 1: The big issues on and after Fields Call eight hundred 2167 01:48:21,107 --> 01:48:24,507 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Paine and GJ. 2168 01:48:24,667 --> 01:48:28,227 Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home, Milder News talks a. 2169 01:48:28,307 --> 01:48:31,867 Speaker 2: Baby coming up twenty two away from three. Just updating 2170 01:48:31,907 --> 01:48:34,467 Speaker 2: live sport from Bay Oval and Mount Monganu Women's super 2171 01:48:34,467 --> 01:48:39,187 Speaker 2: Smash the Northern Brave against against the Otago Sparks. Otago 2172 01:48:39,227 --> 01:48:41,227 Speaker 2: won the toss, sent Northern into bat and the seventh 2173 01:48:41,227 --> 01:48:44,707 Speaker 2: over there forty one for one. Jess what can scoring 2174 01:48:44,747 --> 01:48:46,747 Speaker 2: the bulk of the runs for Northern. She's thirty nine 2175 01:48:46,747 --> 01:48:49,867 Speaker 2: out of twenty six deliveries Northern forty one for one 2176 01:48:49,947 --> 01:48:52,787 Speaker 2: coming towards the end of the seventh over in their 2177 01:48:52,827 --> 01:48:57,067 Speaker 2: Super Smash match at Bay Oval. The Wellington Phoenix back 2178 01:48:57,067 --> 01:48:59,707 Speaker 2: in action this afternoon and back in christ Church for 2179 01:48:59,747 --> 01:49:03,107 Speaker 2: the first time since twenty sixteen. They take on the 2180 01:49:03,147 --> 01:49:06,027 Speaker 2: same side actually that they played in the last game 2181 01:49:06,067 --> 01:49:08,747 Speaker 2: they played here back in twenty sixteen, the Central Coast 2182 01:49:08,827 --> 01:49:13,187 Speaker 2: Mariners at Apollo Projects Stadium five o'clock kickoff this afternoon. 2183 01:49:13,347 --> 01:49:17,067 Speaker 2: The Phoenix, after a fairly challenging recent run, got back 2184 01:49:17,107 --> 01:49:20,867 Speaker 2: to winning ways on Monday night away at MacArthur. 2185 01:49:21,147 --> 01:49:27,107 Speaker 4: He's been ninety nine not outs, but this is it 2186 01:49:27,627 --> 01:49:29,507 Speaker 4: for Redly John number one hundred. 2187 01:49:33,187 --> 01:49:37,707 Speaker 2: Discussed Costa Barbarusa's there, joining an exclusive group of just 2188 01:49:37,827 --> 01:49:41,067 Speaker 2: four players to have scored one hundred a League goals. 2189 01:49:41,067 --> 01:49:43,027 Speaker 2: He did it from the penalty spot and got the 2190 01:49:43,027 --> 01:49:47,227 Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix a two to one win over MacArthur. Ahead 2191 01:49:47,307 --> 01:49:49,467 Speaker 2: of the game against the Mariners this afternoon, I spoke 2192 01:49:49,507 --> 01:49:52,187 Speaker 2: with Costa Barbarusis during the week asden first of all, 2193 01:49:52,387 --> 01:49:54,707 Speaker 2: if it was nice to have the one hundred goal 2194 01:49:54,987 --> 01:49:56,507 Speaker 2: milestone ticked off. 2195 01:49:57,227 --> 01:49:59,907 Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean as soon as I hit ninety nine, 2196 01:50:00,147 --> 01:50:02,227 Speaker 27: I was sort of just obviously wanting to score the 2197 01:50:02,267 --> 01:50:04,867 Speaker 27: next game, in the next game, So I took I 2198 01:50:04,867 --> 01:50:08,387 Speaker 27: think four games, but look, it was a relief just 2199 01:50:08,427 --> 01:50:12,587 Speaker 27: to obviously move on and move past it. I knew 2200 01:50:12,587 --> 01:50:14,027 Speaker 27: it was going to be a great moment at the time, 2201 01:50:14,067 --> 01:50:18,667 Speaker 27: but I also like never won the attention fully on 2202 01:50:18,747 --> 01:50:20,987 Speaker 27: me all the time either, so I just wanted to 2203 01:50:20,987 --> 01:50:24,347 Speaker 27: get it done, have a great moment, and then move 2204 01:50:24,427 --> 01:50:27,147 Speaker 27: past it and look for the next goals we. 2205 01:50:27,947 --> 01:50:30,947 Speaker 2: Could the eighteen year old Coster who scored his first 2206 01:50:30,987 --> 01:50:32,427 Speaker 2: A League goal ever have imagined this. 2207 01:50:33,547 --> 01:50:36,507 Speaker 27: Not really, No, I only started thinking about it probably 2208 01:50:36,627 --> 01:50:41,267 Speaker 27: when I reached seventy eighty, especially, like I've said, playing 2209 01:50:41,387 --> 01:50:44,107 Speaker 27: a wide most of the time, There's been a few 2210 01:50:44,147 --> 01:50:46,387 Speaker 27: moments in between there that I've played up front more 2211 01:50:46,547 --> 01:50:48,747 Speaker 27: to fill in when people were missing, But it's only 2212 01:50:48,747 --> 01:50:51,827 Speaker 27: been the last few years where I've played as a striker, 2213 01:50:51,987 --> 01:50:53,667 Speaker 27: So not really. 2214 01:50:53,987 --> 01:50:55,827 Speaker 23: I always did love goals. 2215 01:50:55,747 --> 01:50:58,867 Speaker 27: Scoring goals as a kid, and then obviously hadn't senior football, 2216 01:50:58,907 --> 01:51:01,907 Speaker 27: but it wasn't primarily my role on the team, but 2217 01:51:02,827 --> 01:51:06,627 Speaker 27: growing into that as yeah, it's been amazing and playing 2218 01:51:06,627 --> 01:51:10,267 Speaker 27: striker the last few years has sparked that goal scoring 2219 01:51:10,347 --> 01:51:12,987 Speaker 27: sort of hunger in me that I had as a 2220 01:51:13,027 --> 01:51:13,587 Speaker 27: kid as well. 2221 01:51:13,947 --> 01:51:16,187 Speaker 2: And is it a responsibility that you're happy to shoulder 2222 01:51:16,227 --> 01:51:18,347 Speaker 2: for this team? I mean, you've got seven now this season. 2223 01:51:18,867 --> 01:51:20,827 Speaker 2: The next best is a couple, Yet you're happy to 2224 01:51:20,867 --> 01:51:24,227 Speaker 2: shoulder the bulk of the goal scoring responsibility for this team. 2225 01:51:24,787 --> 01:51:28,627 Speaker 27: Yeah, And I think you know at times chances might 2226 01:51:28,667 --> 01:51:31,187 Speaker 27: be able to premium for us this year, but I 2227 01:51:31,267 --> 01:51:33,227 Speaker 27: know I've got that confidence in me that if I 2228 01:51:33,267 --> 01:51:36,307 Speaker 27: get one or two that I'll put one away and 2229 01:51:36,827 --> 01:51:40,187 Speaker 27: it's sort of yeah, not showing away from it is 2230 01:51:41,387 --> 01:51:44,067 Speaker 27: the thing that I think that the coach and the 2231 01:51:44,107 --> 01:51:48,027 Speaker 27: staff are happy to give that responsibility to me because 2232 01:51:48,547 --> 01:51:51,107 Speaker 27: they know that I can take it all on and 2233 01:51:51,227 --> 01:51:53,747 Speaker 27: still be doing other things on the pitch as well, 2234 01:51:53,787 --> 01:51:58,307 Speaker 27: linking play, getting back and defending making those four to runs. 2235 01:51:58,307 --> 01:51:59,947 Speaker 23: So it's a bit of everything. 2236 01:51:59,987 --> 01:52:02,307 Speaker 27: But the key thing for me is not to be 2237 01:52:02,347 --> 01:52:04,987 Speaker 27: frustrated noise sniff out a chance. 2238 01:52:05,347 --> 01:52:08,067 Speaker 2: And the penalty that you won that led to you 2239 01:52:08,107 --> 01:52:10,987 Speaker 2: getting one hundred goals. Just talk us through the pictures 2240 01:52:11,027 --> 01:52:12,827 Speaker 2: that you saw at that time and how it played 2241 01:52:12,827 --> 01:52:13,227 Speaker 2: out for you. 2242 01:52:13,907 --> 01:52:15,147 Speaker 8: Yeah, so the. 2243 01:52:15,147 --> 01:52:19,187 Speaker 27: Ball obviously was a great ball from Conchie, and once 2244 01:52:19,227 --> 01:52:21,587 Speaker 27: it bounced, I sort of had a quick glance what 2245 01:52:21,747 --> 01:52:24,747 Speaker 27: Kurda was sort of in between coming. Then when it bounce, 2246 01:52:24,787 --> 01:52:26,867 Speaker 27: I saw he had come out and I was going 2247 01:52:26,907 --> 01:52:29,747 Speaker 27: to hit it on the half volley, but He's kind 2248 01:52:29,747 --> 01:52:31,347 Speaker 27: of made my mind up for me in a way 2249 01:52:31,587 --> 01:52:35,267 Speaker 27: rushing out, And then I knew German went to cover 2250 01:52:35,307 --> 01:52:38,547 Speaker 27: the goal, so, like I said, him rushing out sort 2251 01:52:38,547 --> 01:52:40,627 Speaker 27: of made that decision easy for me to try to 2252 01:52:40,627 --> 01:52:43,587 Speaker 27: take it past him. I was trying to decide between 2253 01:52:44,107 --> 01:52:47,747 Speaker 27: taking it inside him or just down the line. I knew, 2254 01:52:47,867 --> 01:52:50,027 Speaker 27: you know, if I had it past them, that contact 2255 01:52:50,067 --> 01:52:54,027 Speaker 27: would probably come because it's quite close. Like I said, 2256 01:52:54,987 --> 01:52:57,467 Speaker 27: my touch was probably going closer to the byline. 2257 01:52:57,507 --> 01:52:58,867 Speaker 23: But that's the game. 2258 01:52:58,907 --> 01:53:03,067 Speaker 27: And yeah, I think obviously clear penalty, but I think 2259 01:53:03,427 --> 01:53:05,147 Speaker 27: it was a quick sort of decision to make. 2260 01:53:05,787 --> 01:53:09,427 Speaker 2: And Mauly, these milestones mean a lot personally, but when 2261 01:53:09,427 --> 01:53:11,707 Speaker 2: it's a win, probably even more so. I mean a 2262 01:53:11,747 --> 01:53:13,427 Speaker 2: goal on a four to one loss probably not quite 2263 01:53:13,427 --> 01:53:16,107 Speaker 2: so special. How significant, you know, to get the win 2264 01:53:16,307 --> 01:53:18,627 Speaker 2: and to you know, four points in the last two games. 2265 01:53:18,627 --> 01:53:20,267 Speaker 2: Does I feel like things are turning around a little bit. 2266 01:53:20,867 --> 01:53:23,867 Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean it's a you know, a patience thing 2267 01:53:23,907 --> 01:53:27,467 Speaker 27: at the moment. I think with the team, we've had 2268 01:53:27,507 --> 01:53:30,587 Speaker 27: a bit of bad luck with injuries, but also now 2269 01:53:30,907 --> 01:53:34,747 Speaker 27: because of those injuries, we're sort of, I guess, putting 2270 01:53:34,787 --> 01:53:39,707 Speaker 27: a bit too much sort of expectancy on guys that 2271 01:53:39,827 --> 01:53:42,667 Speaker 27: might not be ready for at the moment. I think 2272 01:53:42,667 --> 01:53:45,987 Speaker 27: it's good to sprinkle young players, and so we've sort 2273 01:53:45,987 --> 01:53:48,947 Speaker 27: of been forced to that, which is nothing against anyone. 2274 01:53:48,987 --> 01:53:50,747 Speaker 23: That's just the way things play out. 2275 01:53:51,467 --> 01:53:54,427 Speaker 27: And like you said, when you miss the captain, you know, 2276 01:53:54,467 --> 01:53:56,827 Speaker 27: one of your better players, or to you know, Marco 2277 01:53:57,187 --> 01:54:00,827 Speaker 27: and Tim, it's just played out that way. But we 2278 01:54:00,907 --> 01:54:03,747 Speaker 27: are a work in progress, and we are when everyone's 2279 01:54:03,747 --> 01:54:06,427 Speaker 27: fit by especially more so now. So I think the 2280 01:54:06,467 --> 01:54:08,227 Speaker 27: last few weeks have given us something really good to 2281 01:54:08,227 --> 01:54:08,627 Speaker 27: build on. 2282 01:54:09,027 --> 01:54:10,707 Speaker 2: And even though you are a work in progress, you're 2283 01:54:10,747 --> 01:54:13,067 Speaker 2: still beginning to pick up points again, do you still 2284 01:54:13,067 --> 01:54:14,987 Speaker 2: feel like a top six proposition? 2285 01:54:15,907 --> 01:54:16,107 Speaker 8: Yeah? 2286 01:54:16,147 --> 01:54:18,627 Speaker 27: I think that's got to be the minimum aim for us. 2287 01:54:18,667 --> 01:54:20,947 Speaker 27: You know, I think the last six weeks haven't gone 2288 01:54:20,987 --> 01:54:24,627 Speaker 27: to plan, definitely, But if we just give up now, 2289 01:54:24,667 --> 01:54:26,307 Speaker 27: then what's the point, you know, we always want to 2290 01:54:27,507 --> 01:54:29,387 Speaker 27: you know, I want to push for more than that, 2291 01:54:29,427 --> 01:54:32,427 Speaker 27: but we've got to take it week by week. Let 2292 01:54:32,467 --> 01:54:35,027 Speaker 27: those guys get experience and get comfortable in the league 2293 01:54:35,027 --> 01:54:35,387 Speaker 27: as well. 2294 01:54:35,427 --> 01:54:38,187 Speaker 23: So that's the minimum that we'll. 2295 01:54:37,987 --> 01:54:41,027 Speaker 2: Be looking for, right and cross chats this weekend. I 2296 01:54:41,187 --> 01:54:43,147 Speaker 2: don't know whether you've played a league down there. Did 2297 01:54:43,187 --> 01:54:45,547 Speaker 2: you play one of the early games? I can't remember 2298 01:54:45,827 --> 01:54:48,267 Speaker 2: you playing in the early years for the Phoenix down there. 2299 01:54:48,667 --> 01:54:49,547 Speaker 23: I don't think I did. 2300 01:54:49,627 --> 01:54:53,147 Speaker 27: I think I remember playing Wonderers somewhere, but I think 2301 01:54:53,187 --> 01:54:56,267 Speaker 27: there was Hamilton away, So I no, I haven't even 2302 01:54:56,307 --> 01:54:58,587 Speaker 27: played there for the next set, right. 2303 01:54:58,467 --> 01:55:00,867 Speaker 2: And so then as you look ahead to Mariners and 2304 01:55:00,907 --> 01:55:03,067 Speaker 2: then Brisbane on White tonguey day, does it feel like 2305 01:55:03,147 --> 01:55:05,467 Speaker 2: this could be a little turning point, you know, like 2306 01:55:05,547 --> 01:55:08,427 Speaker 2: say four points last two games, two kind of winnable games, 2307 01:55:08,467 --> 01:55:09,907 Speaker 2: both at home. Does it feel like this could be 2308 01:55:09,947 --> 01:55:10,547 Speaker 2: a turning point? 2309 01:55:11,667 --> 01:55:14,427 Speaker 27: Yeah, every game is winnable for us, and you know 2310 01:55:14,427 --> 01:55:17,387 Speaker 27: it's easy to say that, but even you look back 2311 01:55:17,427 --> 01:55:21,547 Speaker 27: past the Sydney game to Adelaide, you know, are points. 2312 01:55:21,267 --> 01:55:22,147 Speaker 23: There for us? 2313 01:55:22,187 --> 01:55:22,507 Speaker 7: Really? 2314 01:55:22,587 --> 01:55:23,787 Speaker 23: You know, if we if. 2315 01:55:23,627 --> 01:55:26,107 Speaker 27: We look at it, so then you think five points 2316 01:55:26,107 --> 01:55:29,867 Speaker 27: from three games and then looking forward, Yeah, it's two 2317 01:55:29,907 --> 01:55:33,827 Speaker 27: winnable games. Six points, you know, definitely there. I think 2318 01:55:33,907 --> 01:55:36,627 Speaker 27: Camerons are coming good too, and Brisbane's a trigger team 2319 01:55:36,667 --> 01:55:38,547 Speaker 27: as they're shown last week. 2320 01:55:38,667 --> 01:55:40,147 Speaker 23: So it's not going to be easy. 2321 01:55:40,187 --> 01:55:42,587 Speaker 27: But we've got a Yeah, like you said, we've got 2322 01:55:42,587 --> 01:55:46,587 Speaker 27: to pick up points now and believe that based off 2323 01:55:46,587 --> 01:55:47,787 Speaker 27: these next the last couple. 2324 01:55:47,627 --> 01:55:49,427 Speaker 23: Of weeks, that we can really do something all right. 2325 01:55:49,467 --> 01:55:51,467 Speaker 2: Last one for me is that another milestone could be 2326 01:55:51,507 --> 01:55:54,427 Speaker 2: coming your way. You're got forty five assists in the 2327 01:55:54,427 --> 01:55:56,747 Speaker 2: A League. That's level with great good one at the top. 2328 01:55:56,867 --> 01:55:59,947 Speaker 2: So I mean, if you've got a chance on goal, 2329 01:56:00,027 --> 01:56:01,787 Speaker 2: we could square it to somebody. Will you Will you 2330 01:56:01,867 --> 01:56:03,947 Speaker 2: do that to get the get the assist record? 2331 01:56:04,187 --> 01:56:04,347 Speaker 8: Nah? 2332 01:56:04,867 --> 01:56:08,227 Speaker 23: Go for one on one? No, I mean if it's 2333 01:56:08,267 --> 01:56:09,307 Speaker 23: an open goal. 2334 01:56:09,387 --> 01:56:09,827 Speaker 7: I mean. 2335 01:56:11,267 --> 01:56:13,507 Speaker 27: I think that you know, those are to show that 2336 01:56:13,547 --> 01:56:15,907 Speaker 27: if somebody's in a better position, I usually do pass it. 2337 01:56:15,947 --> 01:56:20,467 Speaker 27: But look at another it's another great one that's probably 2338 01:56:20,587 --> 01:56:23,827 Speaker 27: showing more As me playing as a winger, I feel 2339 01:56:23,827 --> 01:56:25,347 Speaker 27: like I've got to do a recount for those because 2340 01:56:25,387 --> 01:56:28,227 Speaker 27: I feel like I've got more than that. But yeah, 2341 01:56:28,387 --> 01:56:32,027 Speaker 27: I pride myself and that as much as goals to 2342 01:56:32,107 --> 01:56:35,307 Speaker 27: hold that record with. You know, Goodwin's an amazing player too, 2343 01:56:35,347 --> 01:56:38,667 Speaker 27: so yeah, I'll be hoping that. I would have hoped 2344 01:56:38,707 --> 01:56:40,907 Speaker 27: that to already have a sister or two by now, 2345 01:56:40,947 --> 01:56:42,307 Speaker 27: but it just hasn't played out that way. 2346 01:56:43,467 --> 01:56:45,747 Speaker 23: But yeah, I'd love to add to that Tully too. 2347 01:56:46,147 --> 01:56:48,747 Speaker 2: That is a cost of Barbarusis, who will be a 2348 01:56:48,827 --> 01:56:51,267 Speaker 2: key part of Wellington Phoenix's quest for a win over 2349 01:56:51,307 --> 01:56:55,307 Speaker 2: the Mariners this afternoon at Apollo Project Stadium in christ Church. 2350 01:56:55,427 --> 01:56:58,267 Speaker 2: As well. One of the new players to the team 2351 01:56:58,307 --> 01:57:02,227 Speaker 2: this season one of the two Japanese players, Kazuki Nagasawa. 2352 01:57:02,467 --> 01:57:05,227 Speaker 2: Now he scored his first Phoenix goal in the win 2353 01:57:05,267 --> 01:57:08,067 Speaker 2: over MacArthur. He got the first one Costa Barbarusis with 2354 01:57:08,107 --> 01:57:10,387 Speaker 2: the second from the penalty spot. So I spoke to 2355 01:57:10,547 --> 01:57:13,747 Speaker 2: Kazuki Nagasawa during the week as well and asked him 2356 01:57:13,787 --> 01:57:16,827 Speaker 2: how nice it was to get his first Phoenix goal. 2357 01:57:17,427 --> 01:57:21,227 Speaker 19: I'm really glad to get the goal of the lye. 2358 01:57:21,747 --> 01:57:25,267 Speaker 28: That was one of my first goal as a player 2359 01:57:25,307 --> 01:57:30,867 Speaker 28: of a league and that win was very important for us, 2360 01:57:30,947 --> 01:57:33,027 Speaker 28: so I'm really bad for that. 2361 01:57:33,587 --> 01:57:35,307 Speaker 2: I saw after he scored the goal that made it 2362 01:57:35,347 --> 01:57:38,427 Speaker 2: won all. But it wasn't as though you were satisfied. 2363 01:57:38,467 --> 01:57:40,747 Speaker 2: You were like, right, let's get back and go again. 2364 01:57:40,987 --> 01:57:43,787 Speaker 2: That was that the mentality at the time, to not 2365 01:57:43,867 --> 01:57:46,107 Speaker 2: just settle for a point, but to go for the win. 2366 01:57:46,827 --> 01:57:47,147 Speaker 22: Uh. 2367 01:57:47,227 --> 01:57:53,147 Speaker 28: Yeah, I want to express that, not like happy to 2368 01:57:53,187 --> 01:57:55,307 Speaker 28: get in goal. I just want to win the game. 2369 01:57:55,387 --> 01:57:57,067 Speaker 28: So I just want to express that. 2370 01:57:57,427 --> 01:58:00,067 Speaker 2: Yeah, nice finish though, you must you know now that 2371 01:58:00,067 --> 01:58:02,667 Speaker 2: you've won the game, did you look back and happy 2372 01:58:02,667 --> 01:58:03,147 Speaker 2: with the goal? 2373 01:58:03,787 --> 01:58:08,387 Speaker 28: Yeah, it was very happy and and the assist was 2374 01:58:08,467 --> 01:58:13,107 Speaker 28: very good from ey Get and then then he got. 2375 01:58:12,907 --> 01:58:16,827 Speaker 19: The ball, then he got the pass. I was. 2376 01:58:18,347 --> 01:58:23,867 Speaker 28: Realized that he was trying to like freak or something, 2377 01:58:24,067 --> 01:58:28,227 Speaker 28: and actually he did like the same thing in the 2378 01:58:28,267 --> 01:58:32,707 Speaker 28: game like ten twenty minutes ago, and he missed. 2379 01:58:32,467 --> 01:58:33,427 Speaker 19: That like freak. 2380 01:58:34,067 --> 01:58:37,587 Speaker 28: But I feel like I'm sure that he trying to 2381 01:58:37,947 --> 01:58:41,707 Speaker 28: did it again. So that was very good assist that, 2382 01:58:41,747 --> 01:58:42,187 Speaker 28: by the way. 2383 01:58:42,347 --> 01:58:42,907 Speaker 8: Oh it was. 2384 01:58:43,027 --> 01:58:47,187 Speaker 2: And see the kind of player Shiga who you expect 2385 01:58:47,387 --> 01:58:50,027 Speaker 2: to be able to do things like that, you know, 2386 01:58:50,387 --> 01:58:54,667 Speaker 2: he seems to be capable of spectacular things. 2387 01:58:54,747 --> 01:58:59,587 Speaker 19: Yeah, and he never get an easy goal and an 2388 01:58:59,587 --> 01:59:00,587 Speaker 19: easy assist as well. 2389 01:59:02,107 --> 01:59:06,707 Speaker 28: But that's that's shown how he was really good player 2390 01:59:06,867 --> 01:59:10,787 Speaker 28: is so I'm very happy to be with playing with 2391 01:59:10,987 --> 01:59:14,187 Speaker 28: him to make it very easier for me to get 2392 01:59:14,187 --> 01:59:14,547 Speaker 28: a goal. 2393 01:59:15,227 --> 01:59:17,747 Speaker 2: So we went over MacArthur off the back of the 2394 01:59:17,787 --> 01:59:20,907 Speaker 2: point against Sydney FC. Does it feel as though the 2395 01:59:20,987 --> 01:59:23,947 Speaker 2: momentum of the season might be changing and things might 2396 01:59:23,987 --> 01:59:27,027 Speaker 2: be getting back onto the positive side of things again? 2397 01:59:27,827 --> 01:59:29,227 Speaker 19: Yeah, I hopefully. 2398 01:59:30,507 --> 01:59:34,387 Speaker 28: This wind makes us a little bit like getting better 2399 01:59:34,547 --> 01:59:40,187 Speaker 28: and this is the momentum to change the like mood 2400 01:59:40,267 --> 01:59:46,107 Speaker 28: and atmosphere. But yeah, we have to like change mind 2401 01:59:46,147 --> 01:59:49,147 Speaker 28: and like prepared to the next game. 2402 01:59:49,467 --> 01:59:51,707 Speaker 19: That is the most important thing for us to know. 2403 01:59:53,147 --> 01:59:56,267 Speaker 2: And you've been here for half a season now, are 2404 01:59:56,267 --> 01:59:59,627 Speaker 2: you enjoying yourself? Do you enjoy being a Wellington Phoenix player? 2405 02:00:00,387 --> 02:00:04,787 Speaker 28: Yeah, I'm very enjoying and very satisfied. And also I'm 2406 02:00:04,907 --> 02:00:08,827 Speaker 28: very struggling to like playing. 2407 02:00:10,507 --> 02:00:12,187 Speaker 19: Make teams better. 2408 02:00:13,027 --> 02:00:18,027 Speaker 28: It's it's especially I think this team well now is 2409 02:00:18,187 --> 02:00:19,907 Speaker 28: very like young team. 2410 02:00:20,267 --> 02:00:23,667 Speaker 19: And now the last squad we. 2411 02:00:23,707 --> 02:00:27,667 Speaker 28: Have only like five players over thirty and the other 2412 02:00:27,707 --> 02:00:30,427 Speaker 28: player was really really really young and. 2413 02:00:30,427 --> 02:00:32,507 Speaker 19: This is this is. 2414 02:00:35,627 --> 02:00:39,787 Speaker 28: This is all like over thirty players. The first experience 2415 02:00:40,107 --> 02:00:43,947 Speaker 28: as a player like playing with the really young team. 2416 02:00:44,107 --> 02:00:49,627 Speaker 28: So we wanna we're gonna make good like good environment 2417 02:00:49,707 --> 02:00:53,787 Speaker 28: to like growing up and you have to get a results. 2418 02:00:53,867 --> 02:00:56,387 Speaker 28: We have a responsible to win the game, especially the 2419 02:00:57,027 --> 02:01:01,547 Speaker 28: old player. So that's also a very good experience for 2420 02:01:01,667 --> 02:01:02,027 Speaker 28: me too. 2421 02:01:02,427 --> 02:01:02,667 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2422 02:01:02,787 --> 02:01:05,267 Speaker 2: But remember when you came here, that was Shinsight. We 2423 02:01:05,307 --> 02:01:07,507 Speaker 2: called you Sinsight. You know, it's one of the old 2424 02:01:07,627 --> 02:01:10,467 Speaker 2: as one of the older older players. So are you 2425 02:01:10,467 --> 02:01:14,307 Speaker 2: You're comfortable in a leadership role even though you're quite 2426 02:01:14,307 --> 02:01:17,347 Speaker 2: new to the team. 2427 02:01:17,347 --> 02:01:23,147 Speaker 28: Not comfortable, but yeah, I'm I feel I feel like 2428 02:01:23,427 --> 02:01:29,427 Speaker 28: kind of responsible to like make it better, make us better. 2429 02:01:29,987 --> 02:01:35,187 Speaker 28: So yeah, so I don't want to everybody call me sentire, 2430 02:01:35,227 --> 02:01:39,907 Speaker 28: but yeah, that I am chained to be nasty everyone. 2431 02:01:40,027 --> 02:01:43,107 Speaker 2: Yeah that is Kazuki Nagasawa, one of the nicest men 2432 02:01:43,147 --> 02:01:46,507 Speaker 2: you will ever meet in sport or in general life, 2433 02:01:46,507 --> 02:01:49,547 Speaker 2: one of the Wellington Phoenix's Japanese imports and a goalscorer 2434 02:01:49,667 --> 02:01:52,107 Speaker 2: against MacArthur on Monday night to give them a two 2435 02:01:52,107 --> 02:01:54,827 Speaker 2: to one win five o'clock this afternoon at Apollo Project 2436 02:01:54,867 --> 02:01:58,747 Speaker 2: Stadium in christ Church. Big numbers expected pre sales were 2437 02:01:58,987 --> 02:02:02,067 Speaker 2: well over ten thousand and climbing last time I checked, 2438 02:02:02,107 --> 02:02:05,027 Speaker 2: so big crowd coming for the Wellington Phoenix's match against 2439 02:02:05,067 --> 02:02:07,707 Speaker 2: the Central Coast Mariners. The same afternoon nine to three 2440 02:02:07,787 --> 02:02:08,427 Speaker 2: News Talks. 2441 02:02:08,187 --> 02:02:12,427 Speaker 1: EB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting 2442 02:02:12,467 --> 02:02:17,027 Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Ye. They call eighty 2443 02:02:17,187 --> 02:02:17,987 Speaker 1: News Talk ZB. 2444 02:02:18,787 --> 02:02:20,387 Speaker 2: Just on five and a half away from three. That's 2445 02:02:20,467 --> 02:02:23,667 Speaker 2: us for Weekend Sport four today. We are back tomorrow 2446 02:02:23,747 --> 02:02:26,187 Speaker 2: obviously between midday and three. Tim Sifeit is on the 2447 02:02:26,227 --> 02:02:30,907 Speaker 2: show tomorrow. Making his living these days as a T 2448 02:02:30,907 --> 02:02:33,987 Speaker 2: twenty player in the various franchise legs around the place. 2449 02:02:34,387 --> 02:02:37,347 Speaker 2: He's been playing Big Bash. He's now in the ILT 2450 02:02:37,547 --> 02:02:41,227 Speaker 2: twenty competition. Tim Sifet on the show and also Luca Harrington, 2451 02:02:41,347 --> 02:02:44,627 Speaker 2: our latest X Games gold medalist, also with us a 2452 02:02:44,627 --> 02:02:46,547 Speaker 2: bit of tennis and football for you, and lots more 2453 02:02:46,627 --> 02:02:50,707 Speaker 2: besides Jess Davidson after three with the Weekend Collective. Huge 2454 02:02:50,707 --> 02:02:53,307 Speaker 2: thanks to you for listening in and to Andy McDonald 2455 02:02:53,347 --> 02:02:56,747 Speaker 2: for producing the show. It's all gone smoothly, I think, mate, 2456 02:02:56,747 --> 02:02:58,867 Speaker 2: So I think we can reward you with the exits off. 2457 02:02:58,947 --> 02:03:01,747 Speaker 29: Yeah, yeah, no, it's tough tough work making go smoothly, Piney, 2458 02:03:01,787 --> 02:03:04,827 Speaker 29: but you've done well that we get we get through it. 2459 02:03:04,907 --> 02:03:08,667 Speaker 29: Especially with yours host No Exit Exit band. Today Cold Chisel, 2460 02:03:08,707 --> 02:03:11,227 Speaker 29: they're playing a pretty cool gig that topaus some aer 2461 02:03:11,347 --> 02:03:13,547 Speaker 29: summer festival. I think it is down there, so sort 2462 02:03:13,547 --> 02:03:16,267 Speaker 29: of from where you'd rather be, almost Cold Chisel leading 2463 02:03:16,307 --> 02:03:18,427 Speaker 29: us out. I think they're playing possibly even right now. 2464 02:03:18,547 --> 02:03:20,867 Speaker 29: So for those of you that aren't there, here's a 2465 02:03:20,867 --> 02:03:22,987 Speaker 29: bit of a bit of what you're missing out on, a. 2466 02:03:22,907 --> 02:03:26,267 Speaker 2: Bit of fomo from Cold Chisel. Thanks mate, see tomorrow. 2467 02:03:26,307 --> 02:03:41,867 Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow to at midday. 2468 02:03:36,787 --> 02:03:39,467 Speaker 19: Chinese presence, I'm some. 2469 02:03:52,467 --> 02:04:11,427 Speaker 30: NaSTA last amos. 2470 02:04:16,147 --> 02:04:40,867 Speaker 1: Almost for more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen 2471 02:04:40,947 --> 02:04:44,187 Speaker 1: live to news talks it be Weekends from midday, or 2472 02:04:44,267 --> 02:04:46,187 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio